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The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
Well, President Donald Trump has now made it formal.
The White House putting out a statement on Friday.
Saying that the John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Dr. Martin Luther King assassination records will be completely declassified.
Now it's important to understand that this comprises over five million pages of information.
So we can probably look for full disclosure in 45 days.
Here to help break this down and perhaps talk about what we expect to find is my co-host Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News.
Roger, as always, an honor to be back with you in the Stone Zone.
Shocking news for so many people.
I want to start off by asking you, I think the biggest one here is JFK, the files that we're going to be reviewing.
What do you think we can expect from this trove of documents set to be released in this historic move by President Trump just days into his presidency?
And secondly, Roger, what do you think this move this early on in his presidency means as a statement to the deep state, those who may have contributed to these murders, that there's going to be a light shown on some of the darkest deeds of the deep state?
What do you think this says about that?
Well, first of all, Troy, I think this is part and parcel of why they are so adamantly opposed to Tulsi Gabbard, because As the Director of National Intelligence, she, of course, would be privy to all of this material.
They have a lot to cover up.
Now, as you know, in the late 1990s, the Congress passed a law saying that all of the documents pertaining to the Kennedy assassination would be declassified in 2017, unless the president objected and held some of them back.
I spoke to President Trump at that time, and I strongly urged him to release everything.
Frankly, I thought he was going to do so.
He released about 80% of the material.
We found out a lot of interesting things.
For example, we found a memo from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to President Lyndon Johnson, which said that the Russian KGB, their intelligence Arm had conducted their own investigation and they had concluded that the person who killed John Kennedy was Lyndon Johnson.
We also found that Jacqueline Kennedy had asked French intelligence to conduct an investigation and they had done so as well, determining that Lyndon Johnson And other members of the D.C. intelligence asset conglomerate had been involved in the murder of John F. Kennedy.
It was published in a book called Farewell to America.
But the other thing we learned, I learned it at the time, was that it was Mike Pompeo, then the CIA director, Who convinced President Trump to hold back 20% of these documents.
That, I think, is the tip-off as to what we're going to see.
In other words, I believe that the conspiracy to kill Kennedy is much broader than the CIA. Talk about that in a minute.
But these documents are going to, I think, put the final nail in the coffin of the Central Intelligence Agency when it comes to proving their direct involvement.
Look, I believe that the Kennedy assassination is the result of a plot that involves the Central Intelligence Agency, the organized crime, the mob, big Texas oil.
Financial interests, and I have now seen substantial evidence regarding the involvement of Israel.
Let's break that down for a moment.
Lyndon Johnson's motive is abundantly clear.
He's under investigation in the Bobby Baker scandal.
Baker is the Secretary of the U.S. Senate.
He's essentially Johnson's bag man.
And the Billy Sal Estes investigation.
Sal Estes is the flamboyant Wheeler dealer who's been getting enormous federal agricultural contracts and kicking back to Johnson.
It is my thesis in my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, a New York Times bestseller, that the shooter...
From the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building is one Malcolm Mack Wallace.
Now, there's a lot of evidence to support this theory.
First of all, Wallace's fingerprints are found on the window casing and also on the cardboard boxes that comprise the so-called crow's nest from which the shooter on the sixth floor shot.
It is also true that six eyewitnesses tell either the Dallas police or the FBI that they see a man in the window of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building who meets the physical description of Wallace.
Middle-aged, heavy-set, balding.
They all say wearing spectacles, wearing a tan jacket and light slacks.
There's a jail directly across Dealey Plaza where at least three of the witnesses watch the whole assassination go down.
Three of the witnesses identify a man who meets the description of Wallace.
Three people on the ground say that they see a man in the window.
Who meets the description of Wallace.
So what's even more shocking is this audio tape, which surfaced only last week.
Now, this is an audio tape between Cliff Carter, who is the executive director of the Democrat National Committee, Johnson's right-hand man for politics, and Billy Sal Estes.
Billy Sal Estes is the...
Flamboyant Texas Wheeler dealer who later goes to prison essentially for Johnson's crimes.
And when he comes out, he writes a book in 2004 in which he says that he sat in multiple meetings in which the murder of JFK was planned and that, yes, Malcolm Wallace is the shooter.
Let's listen to this tape.
Let's listen to this tape.
Let's listen to this tape.
Let's listen to this tape.
and they just kind of blackmailed me to keep my mouth shut.
And if I hadn't had a bunch of tapes that I'd played after it got killed, 'cause you know 17 got killed in this situation, very mysteriously.
And I've spent a lot of time and I've lost a lot of money and hurt my family a whole lot.
And it's really got me disgusted with men in one way, in one way I feel real sorry.
Now at the end of that tape there's a discussion of Henry Marshall.
Henry Marshall was a Texas Ranger who was investigating the corruption of Lyndon Johnson and Billy Solestus.
Henry Marshall was killed in his home.
The local coroner, a Johnson man, said that he died of suicide shooting himself in the head with his own rifle.
Not sure how you do that.
But a gas station attendant said that Malcolm Mack Wallace, or a man who met his description, stopped the gas station shortly before the murder, asking for directions to Marshall's Ranch.
In my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, I document at least 18 murders referred to in the tape before the murder of John F. Kennedy.
Several things I think here are true.
Mack Wallace, working for Lyndon Johnson, is the shooter from the sixth floor.
We know that the fingerprints of Wallace found there are his because in 1951, Wallace was arrested and convicted of first-degree murder when he shot and killed a man named Douglas Kinzer.
Who was trying to blackmail Lyndon Johnson over information he had about Johnson's theft of his Senate seat in 1948. We know that Johnson's personal attorney, John Covington, represented Wallace in a small Texas county outside of Dallas.
He was convicted of first-degree murder.
While Johnson hole up at a local hotel.
And then the judge did something that's never happened before in Texas.
He gave Wallace probation for a first-degree murder conviction.
Wallace would then almost immediately get a full national security clearance and go to work for General Dynamics, a defense contractor.
Owned by a man named D.H. Byrd.
D.H. Byrd was a Texas oil man, a crony of Johnson's, and he owned the Texas School Book Depository building.
After the assassination, Byrd had the window casing taken out of the building and mounted in his living room as a trophy.
There is very little question that Wallace is the shooter from the sixth floor.
But there's more than one shooter here, Troy.
The recent documentary from Paramount Pictures, What the Parkland Doctors Saw, indicate that nine of the ten doctors who attended JFK at Parkland Hospital said that they saw wounds in Kennedy that were consistent with his being shot from the front and the back.
Remember, the Warring Commission told us that John Kennedy died from three bullet wounds, all shot from the back, and every one of these doctors was threatened.
by FBI agents and told not to talk about what they had seen.
So there is more than adequate proof of multiple shooters.
Now let's talk about the other co-conspirators.
The CIA, and I think their motives are about to be exposed in the disclosures that President Trump has ordered, They are upset about Kennedy's handling of the Bay of Pigs.
Now, as a conservative Republican, for many years, I believed the false narrative that Kennedy was responsible for the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba.
Because there was no air cover provided by US fighter jets for the men who were storming the beach in this invasion of Cuba in an effort to topple Fidel Castro.
What I didn't know was that the Bay of Pigs invasion was...
First conceived and planned under Dwight Eisenhower in a working group secretly headed by Vice President Richard Nixon.
But that the plan included 29 Panamanian flagged bombers that were supposed to be flown by Cuban pilots to provide air cover for the men storming the beach.
At the last minute, Charles Cable...
Who was the brother of Dallas Mayor Earl Cable, part of the Johnson machine, canceled the air cover for the men storming the beaches.
This gave the Joint Chiefs of Staff and specifically the head of the Air Force the opening to go to Kennedy and say that the only way They could save the day would be by sending in the Air Force.
But that would have violated the conditions under which JFK approved the Bay of Pigs invasion, which was that it was not to look like a US-based invasion, but was supposed to look like an indigenous uprising of the Cubans.
Unfortunately, the Bay of Pigs plane leaked to Castro.
He knew when the men were coming.
He knew exactly where they were coming at the Bay of Pigs.
And it was a fiasco.
The agency blames Kennedy for his failure to order the air cover.
Kennedy blames the agency for canceling the air cover they had guaranteed him would be provided by the Panamanian fighter jets.
So that is part of the Central Intelligence Agency's motive.
The second part is the truth about the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Now, you can go see a documentary, I think it's called 13 Days, in which they tell you how...
Brave Bobby and Jack Kennedy face down Nikita Khrushchev and he blinked.
But that's all false.
Declassified documents that we would get 40 years later tell us that the Kennedy brothers removed U.S. missiles from Turkey and Italy in a secret deal with Khrushchev in return for a pledge to remove the missiles.
From Cuba, but that deal had no on-site inspection, so we don't even know whether the missiles were ever actually removed.
And then you have organized crime.
I believe that there is a shooter on the grassy knoll behind the fence.
There are at least three witnesses.
Who are ignored by the Warren Commission, one of them in the railroad tower adjacent to the Grassy Knoll, who sees a man in a green Plymouth station wagon with a Goldwater bumper sticker, drive up, take a rifle out of a rifle bag, go up to the line, shoot at Kennedy.
They see a puff of smoke.
By the way, multiple witnesses tell the Warren Commission that they also see smoke emerging from the defense line, put the rifle back in the bag and calmly drive away.
That shooter is most likely a professional assassination, a Corsican who was flown in by the mob and immediately flown out.
The mob's motive is very clear.
Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy, who had been ambassador to the court of St. James under FDR, is also the partner of Frank Costello, the head of the mob in New York.
And he and Costello are partners in the bootlegging business, controlling illegal alcohol during prohibition from New York all the way up to the Canadian border through all of New England.
There is a meeting of the mob chieftains that is called for Chicago, called by Sam Giancana, the head of the mob in Chicago, in which Ambassador Kennedy says, my son is going to be elected president.
I'm leaving here with a million dollars today.
And in return for that million dollar pledge, Ambassador Kennedy agrees that the new Kennedy administration will stop the deportation hearings and procedures against Carlos Marcelo, the head of the mob in Texas and Louisiana, and Santo Traficante, who runs the mob in Florida.
It's interesting that Mickey Cohen...
who heads the mob in Los Angeles, and Cameron Humphreys, who heads the mob in Las Vegas, storm out of the meeting saying, we've put our money on Dick Nixon.
We've supported him since he was in the House.
He's going to be president.
We're out.
The rest of the mob leaders come up with the million dollars.
They agree to deliver the vote in Chicago, where...
There are arm breakers outside the polls, making sure that people vote for Kennedy, and they deliver the vote in the West Virginia primary.
They also deliver the vote in Texas.
It's interesting that the Nixon Lodge ticket actually, I believe, won Texas over Kennedy and Johnson, but Texas has an odd paper ballot.
When you go to the polls, You circle the names of the candidates that you're not for, leaving uncircled the candidates that you're for.
So you would go in and circle the Communist Party candidate, the other minor party candidates.
You would, if you wanted to vote for Kennedy, you'd circle the name of Nixon and Lodge, leaving the names of Kennedy and Johnson uncircled.
Kind of backwards, wouldn't you say?
Well, unfortunately, that standard is only applied in certain counties, those controlled by Lyndon Johnson.
The Kennedy-Johnson ticket only carries Texas by 25,000 votes, but 95,000 votes that were where people just circled Nixon and Lodge, meaning to vote for them, are disallowed.
So the mob is heavily involved in that effort.
Well, you know the rest of the story.
After the election, Robert Kennedy becomes attorney general, and not only does he not drop the deportation efforts against the mobsters, Marcello and Tropicante, but he intensifies them.
In fact, Marcello...
When he goes for his weekly check-in at the U.S. immigration office, is kidnapped, flown to Guatemala, where he has his passport and where he claims to be a resident, and literally dropped in the desert wearing nothing but a Brioni suit and Gucci shoes, he makes his way back to the United States.
Interestingly enough, picked up by the The pilot featured in the Oliver Stone film, whose name was Ferry, as I recall, played very effectively by Joe Pesci.
So the mob has an absolute motive in the murder of JFK. And then there's Big Texas Oil.
Well, Lyndon Johnson had been the water carrier for Big Texas Oil, both in the Senate and in the administration.
But over his objection, John Kennedy came out for the elimination of the Texas, pardon me, of the oil depletion allowance, which meant that the oil barons of Texas would be required to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in additional taxes.
That is their motive.
It is interesting that the banks are opposed because JFK is insisting on a silverback dollar.
That's where the financing comes from for the assassination.
So everybody here involved in this plot has their own individual motive for wanting to kill Kennedy.
But it is Johnson who has, I think, the greatest motive.
He's about to be dumped from the ticket and prosecuted.
Now, it's interesting, Troy, that John Kennedy's personal secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, who I've interviewed, on the plane, on Air Force One, On their way back to Andrews Air Force Base, sits down and writes a list of the suspects who she believed killed her boss, John Kennedy.
Number one on that handwritten list is Lyndon Baines Johnson.
We've all seen the famous picture of Johnson being sworn in on Air Force One with Jacqueline Kennedy standing next to him.
Why is he being sworn in?
He became president legally the moment that JFK was declared dead.
The congressman you see in the background with the bow tie is a segregationist buddy of Lyndon Johnson.
And in videotape, he and Johnson exchange a wink after Kennedy is sworn in.
And by the way, if you look at other photos, there's a broad grin.
On the face of Lady Bird Johnson because she was even more evil and more of a hater than her husband.
She was giddy when she heard about the murder of John Kennedy.
It's also interesting that not only does Johnson not have to be sworn in, but that in the wake of Kennedy's murder, There's a famous piece of audio tape of Malcolm Kilduff, who was the acting press secretary for JFK, in which he announces that the president is dead.
He says the time and says that at such and such time, President John F. Kennedy passed away.
Later, according to Kilduff's memoirs, he's on the elevator with the new president, Lyndon Johnson, and he says to him, Mr. President, Who would do this?
Who would do such a terrible thing?
And Johnson says, it was a communist, son.
And Kildenough says, a communist?
What kind of communist?
And Johnson says, it was a Russian communist, son.
Really?
This is prior to Lee Harvey Oswald being apprehended.
Now, the other piece of evidence that people like Gerald Posner, who's a smart guy and written a great book on 9-11, but when it comes to the Kennedy assassination is completely full of shit, he points out the murder of Officer J.D. Tippett as further proof that Oswald killed Kennedy.
Here's the problem.
Tippett...
A police officer who essentially encounters Oswald is fleeing.
Oswald goes first to his apartment house, changes clothes, but then runs in to tip it.
Oswald was killed with an automatic.
The spent shells on the ground are from an automatic.
Yet, when Oswald is apprehended in a movie theater blocks from there, he's carrying a revolver.
Now, there are three eyewitnesses to the murder of Officer Tippett.
Two of them identify a man who does not meet the description of Lee Harvey Oswald, who's 20 years old, wearing a white t-shirt, and I think he weighed less than 150 pounds.
They identify a very different man.
Arlen Sector, the chief, essentially the chief investigator and prosecutor for the Warren Commission, decides to take the version from an 88-year-old woman who admits that she has problems with her vision.
She's the one who eyewitness identifies Oswald as the killer of Tippett.
There's so many more elements here.
Lee Harvey Oswald, they tell us, has fired a leaky World War II vintage Carcano rifle, yet he has no nitrate, no powder burns on his chest or his arms or his hands.
He could not possibly have fired a weapon that day.
Not only that, but he is seeing...
Almost immediately after the shooting of Kennedy, calmly eating his lunch in the second floor cafeteria of the Texas school depository building, which means that he would have had time to hide the rifle and run down four flights of stairs, wooden stairs, to get to the cafeteria.
Now, a woman on the staircase, I believe her name is Victoria Stewart, I believe, She's on the staircase between the sixth and second floor, but she doesn't see, nor more importantly does she hear Oswald running down the stairs.
And Oswald is not out of breath.
This is why when Oswald says, I'm a patsy, I didn't kill anybody, well, he's telling the truth.
Overwhelming evidence of a conspiracy.
I think this new audio tape we just played for you proves Johnson's involvement.
What I expect to come from the CIA or from these new releases by President Trump are proof of the CIA's involvement.
Well, and Roger, as we examine, I just wanted to ask you real quick, we have two other big things here, and let's just get to that real quickly.
Along with this, we don't want to overshadow, we'll also be declassified the documents surrounding the assassination of Robert Kennedy.
Now, you talked about him in...
Just your talk there about JFK and his involvement.
He was obviously Attorney General under the JFK administration.
And I wanted to ask you, what do you think is going to be revealed about that assassination?
And what can you tell us about the tension between RFK and LBJ following the assassination of JFK? First of all, I think it's important to recognize that Brendan Johnson blackmailed his way onto the Kennedy ticket.
In fact, Johnson was not under consideration.
John Kennedy had decided on Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri as his running mate, according to the memoirs of Clark Clifford, one of the wise men of the Democrat Party, Secretary of Defense, under, I believe it was, President Truman,
and a close advisor to JFK. But Lyndon Johnson and Texas Speaker Sam Rayburn show up at Kennedy's hotel room in Los Angeles after Kennedy's been nominated, and they provide an 8x10 photograph of Kennedy in bed with a woman named Inga, an East German spy.
And Johnson calmly tells Kennedy that either he gets on the ticket or these photos go over to Dick Nixon for the general election.
Now, it is believed that those photographs were provided by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.
What's interesting about Inga is it kind of makes JFK and Gerald Ford Eskimo brothers because, well, when Ford was in the House, Bobby Baker thoughtfully set up a liaison for Congressman Gerald Ford with Inga.
In the Sheraton Carleton Hotel.
See, the old Sheraton Carleton Hotel had a hotel suite where Johnson had a two-way mirror and a camera.
And if a senator or a congressman had a, you know, a yen, if he wanted girls, boys, boys and girls at the same time, multiple women, cocaine, whatever they might want.
Well, Bobby Baker says in his memoirs he could arrange it all, and among those he caught on tape was Gerald Ford.
That may be why Gerald Ford, as a member of the Warren Commission, purposely takes the diagram in the autopsy, takes a pencil, and removes the markings showing a wound in Kennedy's upper back.
By the way, Ford doesn't deny this when confronted years later by the New York Times.
He said he made the change because the country needed closure.
The country needed finality.
But it is very clear that Gerald Ford helps cover up the murder of President John F. Kennedy.
It's also true, of course, That the presidential limousine is hosed down immediately after the murder of Kennedy.
And it is shipped off for repair to the windshield before the investigators are allowed to inspect it.
Kind of reminds me of how they hosed down the roof of that building in Butler, Pennsylvania to make sure that the DNA of the killer was never findable.
Leads me to believe that maybe Thomas Matthew Crooks is not the shooter from the building in Butler.
Too many anomalies here.
It is also true.
I think I mentioned this.
There's a famous AP photo of a Dallas police officer holding the murder weapon over his head, but it's a precision Mauser German rifle, a very fine firearm.
But that's not the firearm that they claim killed JFK. So, look, I think their entire narrative is falling apart.
Let's go now to your question about Robert Kennedy.
Robert Kennedy and his son, RFK Jr., Bobby Kennedy, a good friend of mine, Excellent interview with Mike Tyson, of all people, but don't try to find it on YouTube because it's been scrubbed, tells Tyson that Thomas Noguchi,
the very famous coroner of the LA Police Department or the LA County, says that RFK died from two point-blank bullet shots in the left temple where the gun was held directly up to his head.
But Sirhan Sirhan, the man convicted of killing RFK, was always in front of him.
He got off eight shots.
All eight shots are accounted for.
So none of them hit Robert Kennedy.
It is most likely that the killer of RFK is a Filipino, a man who was hired as a security guard.
Days before Kennedy was at the hotel in Los Angeles and who left immediately for the Philippines afterwards.
Robert Kennedy Jr. sought to interview this man but was unable to do so.
He is most likely the killer.
The Los Angeles Police Department could not have botched this investigation anymore if they had tried.
They're still digging bullets out of the woodwork days after the assassination.
A man and a woman run out of the hotel shouting at the top of their lungs, a woman wearing a polka dot dress.
We got him.
We got him.
No explanation about what that is about.
Now, I believe...
That Robert Kennedy was killed because very much for the same reason that Martin Luther King was killed.
Dr. King was under FBI surveillance, as we now know.
Interestingly enough, by the way, in a wiretap approved by that great civil rights advocate, Robert F. Kennedy.
Never really understood why Kennedy approved the wiretap of King.
But in the wiretap, King tells Hosea Williams, one of his aides, that he is planning to endorse Robert Kennedy, calls him my main man, Bobby Kennedy, for the presidential nomination in 1968. Two weeks of J. Edgar Hoover having that tape on Lyndon Johnson's desk, both Kennedy and King are dead.
Now, the King family filed a civil suit against the Memphis police, the FBI, the Secret Service, and the federal government, and they won.
Which means that a federal judge ruled that the Johnson administration was complicit in the murder of Dr. King.
Now, we also know from the FBI's report that Dr. King was no angel, and the fruits of that wiretap were contained in a letter sent to King saying that if he did not commit suicide, kill himself, Well, all of his dirty laundry would be exposed.
But Dr. King did not kill himself.
He was killed by the same people who killed Robert Kennedy and John F. Kennedy.
Well, and Roger, I think that that's going to be bared out in these documents.
You know, we have such a history of, you know, deep state coverups in this country.
And a big part of that is the CIA. We've talked about it at length here today.
And I think the biggest fear, you know, you started off talking about this, Roger.
It's so important.
One of the biggest reasons that Trump was sent to Washington, D.C. in this last November election following...
You know, these tremendous failures of the Biden administration and the tremendous failures really of the foreign policy of the Biden administration as well as the domestic policy.
We look at the reform of the intelligence agencies.
You know, that's the top of Trump's wish list.
It's the top of the things that he's been talking about doing.
And we look around and we say, well, who's been responsible for the corruption in these agencies?
Well, a lot of people point to former...
People like former FBI Director James Comey, and of course people like former CIA Director John Brennan.
And these individuals now, Roger, are full-on attacking Tulsi Gabbard.
Now she's going to face a confirmation hearing most likely this week.
We have a clip of John Brennan attacking Gabbard, and we just laid out this history of this deep state.
Now we have it in its latest incarnate.
I want to get your thoughts on what's going on and how these same people that are, you know, that basically...
He basically created this assassination of JFK, RFK and Martin Luther King Jr. now opposing Tulsi Gabbard.
Amazing stuff.
Let's roll that and then get your thoughts.
When there are National Security Council meetings that the president chairs in the White House Situation Room, usually the first person to speak would be the director of national intelligence and the director of CIA.
They lay down the intelligence basis for any type of policy discussion that ensues.
And so if that intelligence basis, that briefing, is going to be skewed or is going to be lacking some very important critical information, the policy decision that ultimately comes out of it is also going to be...
It's baseless, and also, you know, it's going to be potentially threatening to our national security.
So, again, it's the President's daily brief, but also the role that the Director of National Intelligence, Director of CIA, play in order to ensure that the people who have to make those decisions in the National Security Council are fully informed about what the reality is, what the intelligence is, what our intelligence gaps are, and if they withhold things...
Or if they skew things, it really is going to be detrimental.
Real quick before we let you go, Director, do those agency heads have, in that moment you're describing in that room, have that realization that, wait a minute, that's not what we told you?
I mean, in other words, how does that coordination become undone?
When the person who's putting the final brief has skewed the information?
Well, I like to think that, you know, Secretary of State Rubio, who is very familiar with the intelligence profession, is going to be speaking up because you have the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, others who are going to be there.
So you want to make sure, again, that you have people who are informed, but also people who want to know the truth.
Right.
And not just people who want to give President Trump what he wants to hear.
That is so, so dangerous.
And none of the six presidents that I work for ever wanted the intelligence community to give them what they wanted.
They wanted the intelligence community to give them what they needed, and then they can make the appropriate policy decisions, taking into account what the intelligence says.
First of all, John Brennan is an admitted communist.
He said he voted for the Communist Party candidate for president.
He's also the man who approved the visas for four of the 9-11 hijackers when he was the head of the CIA office in Reda.
Pardon me.
He is the mastermind of the Russian collusion Oaks.
He is the man...
Who had the five eyes of the English-speaking nations conduct surveillance on me and 25 others without any rationale.
This is really simple.
The House Oversight Committee should schedule a field hearing in Mississippi and send him a subpoena.
If he purges himself in his questioning, he can be tried.
In Mississippi, not the District of Columbia.
John Brennan is a criminal who committed treason.
He is the mastermind of the Russian collusion hoax, and he must be brought to justice.
For him to criticize Tulsi Gabbard is almost laughable.
That is a traitor.
The case against him is overwhelming.
A junior lawyer could go to a grand jury and get him indicted.
He needs to be called and questioned.
Since he got a pardon, he needs to be called and questioned before a house committee, but not in Washington, D.C. Let's do it in a field hearing.
Justice is heading for that guy.
I guarantee it.
One other thing I have to say, Troy, where I'm a little disappointed in the president's order.
I really wish he had included declassification of all the documents having to do with the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, and here's why.
The final report on the attempted assassination of Reagan has never been released.
We have a statement from a task force headed by Vice President George Bush, the man who would have benefited the most from the murder of Reagan, but we're told that John Hinckley Who is the attempted assassin,
who is in a crouching position, shooting upwards towards Reagan, and who gets off four shots, all of which are accounted for, and none of which hit Reagan, is the killer.
Yet Reagan was hit from above and behind.
In fact, first of all, James Brady, his press secretary, who was tragically shot in the head, Arrives at George Washington Hospital 15 minutes before Reagan, but they both leave at the same time.
Where was Ronald Reagan?
And then secondarily, when he gets to GW, the emergency room doctors cannot find a bullet.
The x-rays don't indicate a bullet.
They're about to sew him back up, which would have killed him, when one doctor says, I'm going to do a physical examination.
And he removes a projectile known as a flechette.
Now the flechette was exposed in the late 1970s as a projectile shot from a specific weapon developed by the CIA specifically for the purpose of assassination.
The flechette is usually dipped in some kind of poison.
In this case it was not.
We need to know all about the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.
I wish President Trump had included declassified, those declassified documents as well.
Perhaps he will yet do so.
Well, and Roger, the immediate thought that pops into my head is that during his campaign, he did promise to appoint a presidential commission on assassinations and assassination attempts.
It's my hope that along with these assassination declassifications that we'll not only get information surrounding the attempt on Reagan's life, but also the two attempts surrounding or on Donald Trump's life just in the 2024 election, Roger.
It's pretty amazing that we've gone this long since.
The July 13th shooting where Thomas Matthew Crooks is reportedly flying a drone around the site of the shooting beforehand.
He's on film, on camera.
Crawling around on the roof with people shouting.
There's a guy with a gun on the roof.
Somebody do something.
They're screaming in horror as he's positioning himself.
And then not only that, Roger, but we've seen the pictures of him on the cell phone with somebody with a range finder in his other hand looking and kind of surveying his shot.
I think the questions are...
One, who is he talking to on the phone?
Two, why is he allowed to fly a drone around and have a rangefinder right in front of the Secret Service?
There's so much about July 13th, Roger, that we don't know about.
Do you think that it's possible during this administration that we will see more information declassified on that attempt, or do you think it's just too soon?
Look, I'm hopeful that once...
Kash Patel is confirmed as the FBI director.
The president's already taken control of the Secret Service.
I suspect that he's going to find that many of the records regarding what happened in Butler have already been destroyed.
That's just a theory, but I'd be willing to place a bet on it.
But once we have Kash Patel and the president's new Secret Service director, perhaps we'll get some answers regarding Butler, Pennsylvania.
Pardon me.
I do think that it is possible that we could expand the scope of a commission to examine the attempted assassination of Reagan, the attempted assassination of Trump, both in Butler, Pennsylvania and in West Palm Beach.
I'm hopeful that that will happen.
I should say, folks, if you're interested in our discussion here and you want to read more about the Kennedy assassination, I commend to you my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. It is a New York Times bestseller.
It is very heavily footnoted and documented.
And yes, I'm not saying Johnson acted alone.
I'm saying he acted in concert with the CIA, organized crime, big Texas oil, financial interests.
I'm working on a new chapter regarding Israel's role in the assassination based on information that has only recently come to my attention.
As you know, Troy, the Israelis wanted nuclear weapons, but President Kennedy was denying them nuclear weapons.
President Kennedy was insisting that AIPAC file as a foreign agent.
They resisted.
Instantaneously upon Kennedy's death, Johnson allows them to have nuclear weapons, and he drops the efforts to have AIPAC file.
Candace Owens has blurted out the truth regarding the USS Liberty.
This was an American ship attacked by Israel in a false flag operation, an effort to blame Egypt as a pretext for war.
This is all covered in my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. To get a copy, you can go to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.
Now, you can go to Amazon or Barnes& Noble or some other multinational corporation that hates your guts, and you can order it there.
But if you choose to do so, get the paperback version, not the hardcover, because it has three additional chapters, and soon it will have yet another additional chapter, as it is going to be updated with a lot of new information, including...
What we learn in this upcoming disclosure from the Trump administration, as well as a new focus on the role of Israel.
Well, and Roger, you know, I know that you're always hard at work on new projects and adding to your repertoire.
And to see these documents declassified, I mean, I think it's a tremendous feather in your cap as far as, you know, you've been a person that's been out on the forefront of not, we won't call them conspiracies anymore, the truth about the JFK assassination.
And really what your story is, Roger, is a story of detailing the cover-up that ensued.
And I think that's the most damning thing that...
That you've really unveiled in your New York Times bestseller is that the fact that Gerald Ford, a participant on the Warren Commission, the fact that there has been such an extensive effort on behalf of the establishment.
Kind of oddly, the same establishment that's opposing Donald Trump and the America First agenda resulting in the Kennedy assassination and the cover-up following.
It's just unbelievable stuff, Roger.
You know, we talk so much about what's going on politically here.
We do have a few minutes left.
Before we get out of here, I saw a piece.
On your substack that I wanted to highlight, get you a chance to talk about here, and that is the fact that Pete Hegseth was opposed by both Murkowski, Senator Murkowski from Alaska, and Senator Collins from Maine, and that both of these senators are products of ranked choice voting.
I think it's something that people don't really maybe understand out there.
It was a tremendous piece.
Get you to talk about that here, because these are two senators that are a thorn in the side of all of the Republican voters out there.
And I think it'd be interesting for people to learn that the way they got elected, pretty underhanded, no?
Yeah.
First of all, it's important to realize that Lisa Murkowski was not first elected to the Senate.
His father was the U.S. Senator.
He was elected governor of Alaska.
He then turned around and appointed his daughter to his Senate seat.
Then she was reelected through ranked choice voting.
Now, we don't have enough time left to explain how this system works, but suffice it to say, under ranked choice voting, The candidate who gets the most votes does not become elected to the office.
The person gets elected by adding those who choose them as their first choice and their second choice.
I had a great conversation with the chairwoman of the Alaska Republican Party.
The party is trying to do away with ranked choice voting.
They put it on the ballot.
It very narrowly lost the repeal of it.
Some evidence of election fraud, by the way.
And then there's a great piece in Slingshot.News about how Lisa Murkowski's entire career was funded by other Senate Republicans, including Mitch McConnell.
So I would commend that to people.
You can go to my Substack, The Stone Cold Truth, on Substack and read that piece.
I have another piece coming out.
There's one also at The Stone Zone.
About why both Lisa Murkowski and, sadly, Susan Collins of Maine, another product of ranked choice voting, in other words, senators not elected with the majority of the vote, really need to go.
Troy, we have to wrap it up there.
First of all, I want to tell people Troy has a hot new show at worldviewtube.com where he talks a lot about his love of Chinese food as well as other political topics.
Troy, when's the show on?
It's right before this on WorldviewTube, so it's on 3 p.m., but we upload it on our Twitter every day so people can check it out there.
Or, you know, any social media, any platform really we're on, you can just look up Slingshot News and you'll find our show there.
So I appreciate you promoting the show too, Roger.
It's been an honor to be a co-host here and have the opportunity to talk about it.
So at 3 p.m.
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On behalf of my co-host, Troy Smith, and myself, I want to thank you for our growing audience here at the Stone Zone.
I hope you've enjoyed today's show and what we've laid out for you about the Kennedy...
The assassination of Robert Kennedy and the assassination of Dr. King.
We're going to be covering the story very closely when the releases come from the Trump administration.
We're going to be breaking those down for you very quickly.
In the meantime, until tomorrow, this has been The Stone Zone.
Thank you for joining us.
God bless you and Godspeed.
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