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Is Diddy Going Down For Sex Trafficking? Investigative Journalist Liz Crokin Enters The StoneZONE!
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The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome!
I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
With the stunning raids of the Los Angeles and Miami homes of Hip-hop artist and producer P. Diddy, the issue of child sex trafficking and pedophilia is very much back in the news.
My guest today in the Stone Zone is Liz Crokin.
Liz Crokin is an award-winning author, an independent investigative journalist, and a documentary film producer best known for her relentless work against sex trafficking.
Liz Executive produced the film Slave Princess, which was released in the fall of 2021.
That documentary covered Britney Spears' illicit conservatorship and the systematic corruption surrounding the media, Hollywood, and the government.
In the spring of 2020, Liz appeared in the viral documentary, Out of Shadows, that has been viewed by over 100 million people globally and has been actually translated into two dozen languages.
Here to help me in this epic interview with Liz Crokin is my usual co-host, Troy Smith from slingshot.news.
Roger, as always, it's an honor.
It is a great opportunity for us today.
I've been really anxious to have this guest.
And there's a lot more to this.
Let me see if I can pull this up.
Here we go.
So to give you some background, folks, Liz Crokin is a seasoned celebrity journalist who wrote the in-character column for the Chicago Sun Time Splash.
She also had a celebrated novel, Malice.
She has traveled the world to exotic places and small podunk towns, ranging from the Hollywood all the way across the Caribbean, tracking down the foibles of the rich and the famous.
In 2010, Liz moved to Los Angeles.
She worked as the West Coast Senior Editor for both Star and In Touch magazines.
She also served as the West Coast Reporter for Us Weekly.
She has broken many, many exclusive stories about the misadventures and misbehavior of those in Hollywood.
But it is her role as an advocate and, frankly, a whistleblower, an exposer of child sex trafficking, that she has done her most important work.
We are honored to have my friend, Liz Crokin, today in the Stone Zone.
Hi, Roger and Troy.
Thanks for having me.
We're very, very excited about having you.
Thank you.
So, I guess P. Diddy is an excellent place to start.
I want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein, of course, but it's interesting to me.
They have these over-the-top raids on his homes.
In Miami and Los Angeles, and immediately the race card is pulled.
Well, he's being raided because he's black, as someone whose home was stormed at six o'clock in the morning by 29 fully armed SWAT-clad FBI agents brandishing fully automatic M4 assault weapons for the first time non-violent crime Of allegedly lying to Congress.
There was no racism involved in the raid on my home, and I don't think there's any racism involved here.
The government does not raid your home with this magnitude unless they have some evidence of real crime.
So, off the top, Liz, what's going on here?
Well, first of all, I think the race card in this situation is absolutely ridiculous.
There's a lot of people that are exposing him right now and are making allegations against Diddy who are also black as well.
And that's part of the reason I believe that he has been raided because there's been multiple lawsuits filed and some have been settled very quickly, I might add.
And those lawsuits also contain a lot of evidence proving that the allegations made against Didi are true.
Now the allegations we are talking about involve all kinds of crimes including not only sex trafficking but child sex trafficking, sexual assault, rape, drugging, women and men, prostitution, drugs, women and men, prostitution, drugs, murder, the list goes on and on.
So the amount of crimes that Diddy is being accused of, many of which we know about, as I said, because there's been multiple lawsuits filed, it's crazy.
It's a large amount of crimes.
And it's not looking good for him.
I seem to recall that Cat Williams, 50 Cent, other black artists have been calling him out for some time.
So the rumors themselves are not new, but this seems to be a great deal more serious.
Troy, do you have a thought?
Absolutely.
So, with Jeffrey Epstein, it's always been a thing about, you know, who are the associates?
And with this, I'm not seeing so much about the associates of Diddy.
Could you talk about that?
How wide-sweeping is this in the hip-hop industry?
Is this, you know, is this leaking down with other people that are lower than him?
Are there other high-level people that you think may be involved?
What's the story?
Well, speaking of Jeffrey Epstein, people are calling him the Black Epstein, including 50 Cent himself.
But so the reason why they're calling him the Black Epstein is because it's not just that he's allegedly involved in the child sex trafficking.
He also allegedly is involved in blackmail.
He's also allegedly involved in Wiring all of his homes with security cameras in order so he could videotape people committing crimes and or in compromising positions so he can blackmail them.
And as we all know, Jeffrey Epstein was not just running a child sex trafficking ring, he was running an intelligence operation Aka a potty pot to blackmail people.
So that's the reason why people are calling him the Black Epstein because the crimes that he's been accused of are very similar to the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein's been accused of.
Now, there are a lot of people that are aligned with Diddy that can be brought into this.
A lot of his powerful celebrity friends, I think, are panicking right now.
Such as Jay-Z, you know, and his other pals in the rap community.
He, a lot of these crimes allegedly took place at these infamous parties that he had.
And again, according to people that have been speaking out against him, and people who have filed the lawsuits, and other people are saying that a lot of these crimes took place at these wild parties.
So it is looking like this is a massive ring, and it could potentially involve Dozens, maybe hundreds of other people, high profile names, celebrities, and then there's a lot of people also involved, potentially, that, you know, are powerful people that are maybe names that we're not as familiar with, but they're powerful people that work, you know, in the music industry.
And I would even argue it could bring down politicians, you know, we know that Diddy has done a lot of work with politicians and the Obamas and so has Jay-Z.
So it'll be very interesting to see how this unfolds.
You know, Liz, you made a very good point in a text to me last night.
People really do need to have some context.
Child sex trafficking, pedophilia, among the ruling elite in this country and Europe is not in any way a new thing.
Right.
About a week ago, we had Nick Bryant on the show.
Nick Bryant is an amazing investigative journalist.
He's really the first American journalist Who revealed and exposed the truth about Jeffrey Epstein for Gawker Magazine.
He was, I believe, among the first reporters to get Epstein's little black book, to get the FAA manifests showing who had flown to the island.
I covered much of this in my own book on the Clintons with full attribution to Nick Bryan, who I flew to New York to meet with several times.
What's amazing is how long it was ignored.
And as some people may not realize, Epstein originally got charged in the state of Florida.
It is pretty clear that the investigation by the Palm Beach Police secured him more than enough evidence to charge him with child sex trafficking and more serious crimes, but he ultimately got off the hook essentially with a slap on the wrist.
He was allowed to plead initially to one charge of solicitation.
That's like going into a bar and trying to pick up a hooker.
And when the police chief who had conducted the undercover investigation objected, they just bumped that up to solicitation of a minor, which is still a serious crime, but not nearly as serious as child sex trafficking.
And then the state's attorney allowed Jeffrey Epstein to plead to that one charge.
He got an 18 month sentence.
Of which he only served 15 months, but he was allowed to serve his sentence in the brand new air-conditioned wing of the Palm Beach County Jail, where he had his gourmet meals brought in, where he was only required to be from 10 o'clock at night until 6 o'clock in the morning.
During the day, he was free to travel.
He actually used sheriff's deputies, essentially, It's only because of the dogged work of a reporter named Julie Brown of the Miami Herald that that story unraveled.
Before that, as you correctly pointed out to me, there was the Franklin scandal in which a flamboyant financial criminal and big Republican in Nebraska, Larry King, somehow got a backdoor to Boys Town And was trafficking both boys and girls underage to Washington, D.C.
and elsewhere.
Now, we had Alicia Owens on our show last week.
I know that she was trafficked to the chief of police in Omaha.
I know she was trafficked to the publisher of the largest newspaper in the state.
I felt very badly for her.
She did two years in solitary because she refused to lie.
They wanted her to recant, and she would not recant.
So, you're right.
It's important that people know that this phenomena of child sex trafficking is not new.
It is just now finally being covered.
The film Out of Shadows, which is where I first became familiar with your work, is an amazing accomplishment.
The censors, those who don't think we can make up our own minds, have done everything humanly possible to make that film hard to see.
But folks, if you haven't seen it, please tell people where they can go and find it.
Yeah, you can find it at intothelight.movie or honorshadows.org.
I've also posted on my X page.
But in that film, we talked about the modern elite pedophile rings, which would be Jeffrey Epstein.
It would be Pizzagate.
Pizzagate is basically that Hillary Clinton's associates were using the pedophile code word pizza in the Podesta emails that were released in 2016.
And what Pizzagate basically is, it's no different than the Franklin scandal, and that is that there's a group of powerful people, elites, celebrities, and politicians around the world that are involved in the rape, torture, and trafficking of kids.
And as you said, this has been going on for a very long time.
There's been scandals all over the United States, as you mentioned, you know, the Franklin scandal, McMartin preschool scandal.
There's been rings in Europe that have been exposed in Canada as well.
And then on top of that, it's not new to see politicians and or celebrities or musicians involved in pedophilia.
You know, I was texting you last night.
I just happened to watch this crime show the other night, and it was about Jerry Lee Lewis.
And I'm watching the crime show and a woman comes on and she's talking about how she was forced to marry him at the age of 13 and she was his cousin and I never knew that about him and I'm like geez like I mean Are there any people in the music industry and or Hollywood who aren't pedophiles?
Because it just seems that it's more the norm that celebrities in Hollywood, musicians, you know, and politicians at the highest level are involved in trafficking and or are actual pedophiles.
So this has been going on for a very long time.
And part of the reason why this has not come to surface is because Number one, you have the media that is completely owned and controlled by the people involved in these elite pedophile rings.
So they're constantly lying about this, covering this up, slandering people like you and I, and not telling the truth about these elite pedophile rings.
So that's number one.
Number two, as you mentioned earlier, These rings often have judges involved, police officers involved, members of the FBI involved, members of the government at very high level involved.
I mean, there's been reports recently of a high profile prostitution and or trafficking ring that's going that's actually involved in the I believe the Virginia, Maryland area that's allegedly tied to Chinese espionage.
And law enforcement has come out and said that people involved in that ring, there's many who have security clearances with our government.
So the reason why this has been kept underground for so long is because the fox is guarding the hen house here.
And as we learned from Diddy, from the revelations from these lawsuits that have been filed against him, is that according to these lawsuits,
Diddy has bragged for years how he has law enforcement, you know, all on his side and working with him just like they did with Epstein to make sure that he can do no wrong and if he ever has an issue with the law or any alleged crimes that he's protected.
And he has had run-ins with the laws.
If you remember, you know, over two decades ago when he was dating J-Lo, You know, there was that shoot, that incident.
He was involved in the shooting.
He was involved in a nightclub, you know, he got off.
And, um, so the, a lot of these elite pedophiles, they're protected because there are members of government and people in the judicial system and whatnot.
They're also involved in their rings that protect them.
All right, folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to the incredible Liz Crokin.
We're going to take a quick commercial break.
When we come back, we're going to talk a little bit more about Jay-Z, some amazing things that Liz has reported on him.
And then you mentioned Maryland.
I think our friend Troy Smith has done some incredible investigative reporting that shows that there's rampant pedophilia at the highest levels of government in Maryland.
We'll be right back after this commercial message.
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Welcome back, folks.
If you're just tuning in, this is the Stone Zone, and I'm here with investigative journalist and activist Liz Crokan as well as my colleague Troy Smith from slingshot.news.
We're going to put up a graphic where people can go to see all of Liz's amazing work.
Folks, can we throw that up?
There you have it, lizcrokan.net.
Folks, please go by.
It's amazing what this woman's body of work is.
I really hadn't focused on your sub stack Until yesterday, Liz, but you have some amazing reporting there.
And you raised the question of Jay-Z.
And as you correctly pointed out, there's some major suspicion about the death of one of his mistresses.
Also, there were always rumors about the mysterious death of Kim Porter, who I think was attractive.
Tell us about that.
Right.
So, as you mentioned in the introduction, I have a background working in all kinds of different journalism, but particularly celebrity journalism.
And I wrote a gossip column for the Broad Eye of the Chicago Tribune, in addition to doing the Sun-Times column for years.
And I also worked for many different celebrity magazines for years.
Flying around literally the world covering these celebrities, often checking into the same hotel as them, sometimes literally staying in a room next to them.
And then I moved to Hollywood.
I was working in celebrity journalism in Hollywood for over a decade.
And so, you know, I was on the ground, hanging out with these celebrities, covering these celebrities, flying around the world.
Doing investigative reporting on these celebrities.
So, and I did this for almost two decades.
So I have met many of these people.
I've seen a lot of things behind the scenes.
There's a lot of things that I learned that were horrific that have never gotten out there.
And, you know, what I learned very quickly in celebrity journalism is that these people are not who you think they are.
You know, when I first got into this kind of work, I realized right away that most celebrities are just assholes, right?
But then through the years, I started to see darker and darker things.
And that's when I realized there's something much darker going on in Hollywood.
And so in about, I believe it was in 2011, at this point in time, I was working as an investigative reporter and an editor for Star Magazine.
Star Magazine is owned by American Media that also owns the National Enquirer and several other different magazines.
They have Radar Online as well.
And you know, just for the record, people will say things like, oh that's a tabloid, you can't believe tabloids.
I I worked with some of the best journalists in the world at American Media and at other tabloids.
From my experience, the tabloids do more thorough reporting than any of these newspapers, especially these days.
At that time, we had some lawyers that used to work for Bill Clinton when he was president that would fact check everything.
We would even have our sources take lie detector tests You know, and for me to get an explosive story out, you know, about a celebrity having an affair or whatever, I would have to get all kinds of proof.
I mean, I would have to get text messages, phone records, you know, sources on the record, off the record.
So we did really good work, you know, back at American Media and then the other, you know, entertainment sites that I have worked for in the past.
And so back in 2011, I was working for Star and I was asked to look into Jay-Z and his alleged affair with the mistress named Kathy White.
Now you have to keep in mind back then, this is before people were really getting their news online.
You know, at that point in time, people that were into celebrity gossip, which it was a huge, huge industry back then, they got all of their news from these magazines.
There's about five magazines that came out every week that were competing against each other.
And they did very, very well before the Internet really blew up and social media blew up.
And so there were not that many entertainment blogs and There weren't that many people going online to get their news.
They were going to the magazines.
So if there was an explosive story about a celebrity coming out, you did not want that story in any of these magazines because that was everyone's source for the celebrity gossip, right?
So I'm looking into this story about Jay-Z and this alleged mistress.
And by the way, at this point in time, There had been many allegations of him cheating and there have been rumors and reports that he not only had other mistresses, but he also had love children.
But this was something that really hadn't made the magazines often.
You know, you would find reports on smaller blogs here and there.
So I started looking into this and I managed to get a hold of this woman who allegedly was his mistress.
And she initially told me that she didn't know him and that she had never even met him and that she never even been to a concert or anything.
So I then get off the phone with her and I did more digging on her and I found pictures of her.
And one of the last places where she's been photographed with Jay-Z was also with Diddy at a party in Las Vegas, I think back in 2010 at Town Nightclub.
And so I called her back and I said, hey, you know, you you told me that you didn't even know Jay-Z, that you've never met him.
You've never been in a concert.
You're in the same room as him.
But now I'm looking at all these pictures that clearly shows that you've not only know him, you've hung out with him.
And I have other sources telling me that you guys have been having this affair.
You know, it's been going on for a long time.
And I'm like, you know, whether you talk to me or not, like my boss wants to run this story.
So I'm going to have to run this story.
So it's going to, it's up to you if you want to tell your side of the story or not.
And at that point she kind of realized, you know, I think in her head, Oh, you know, I'm busted because she's seen the pictures of me with Jay-Z.
So she knows I know him at the minimum.
So, you know, she said to me, all right, you know what?
Let me think about this.
Um, I'm going to think about whether or not I want to do an exclusive interview with you, but I'm going to consider it and I will get back to you on this.
So a few days pass by and I can't get a hold of her.
And I'm calling and calling and calling.
And so finally I'm like, this is really weird.
Like, why can't I get a hold of this woman all of a sudden?
So I ended up calling one of her colleagues at her office.
And I said, Hey, I'm trying to get ahold of Kathy.
Do you know where she is?
And she's like, Yeah, she's dead.
I was like, what?
And she said, Yes, she died.
And I was like, Oh, my gosh, like, what happened?
You know, she died.
And she's like, I don't know.
Um, you know, and, you know, no one really knows much.
And the circumstances are really strange.
So I, you know, I started looking into it more.
I talked to my boss about this and there were a lot of red flags surrounding her death.
Things didn't add up.
This was a healthy 28 year old woman, you know, from what I've been told that she didn't have any health problems.
Like, you know, it didn't make sense.
Long story short, the official story was that she had died from a quote, aneurysm at the age of 28.
Well, I then later met sources that knew her very well and were on the very inside of what happened with her death.
And these sources told me that they were very confident that she indeed was murdered and that Jay-Z allegedly was involved.
And the reason why she was murdered, or at least the partial reason why she was murdered, is because allegedly, and other people have reported this, after I talked to her on the phone, she allegedly called Jay-Z and said, hey, you know what, I think I'm going to do a story with this reporter, and she may have told him
Unless you give me, you know, X amount of dollars, I'm going to do this story with this reporter and talk about our affair.
So the timing was very convenient for Jay-Z.
Now I will say one more thing.
When this was all going down, there already had been other allegations about him having affairs.
But again, The affair stories never made the magazines they were just kind of in the dark corners of the internet so like him and Beyonce still had this like squeaky clean image that you know I know his handlers and his PR machine wanted to keep for as long as possible and the second one of these affair stories or alleged love children stories Hits the tabloids, then that is, that is not good for the couple, right?
So at this point in time, like none of those stories had really gone mainstream, but in my head, I'm thinking, all right, like what would be the incentive for him murdering her?
If he has all these mistresses, you know, I understand that maybe she asked him for money and that pissed him off, but what ended up happening right after I contacted her,
Which I didn't know and nobody knew was happening is that Beyonce and her team had crafted this whole big publicity stunt to announce her pregnancy at the VMAs with her first child with Jay-Z.
So looking back, if she had done this story with me,
This would have overshadowed this big PR stunt that they had planned to announce their first child and everyone had been talking about when when is she gonna get you know pregnant when is she gonna when are they gonna have a baby they had this whole you know wonderful crafted PR stunt to it to announce that she was pregnant you know like the king you know and queen of like you know the rap industry like that could not be tainted
And so I believe that if indeed she was murdered, I think that is one of the reasons why.
Because this story could have dominated the headlines as opposed to the story of now seeing that Beyonce was pregnant with her and Jay-Z's first child.
And that's how Hollywood works.
You know, everything is an illusion.
So much is fake.
It's all about PR.
It's all about optics.
And that's what they care about most.
All right, folks, if you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone.
I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith, also with investigative journalist and activist Liz Crokin.
And when we come back, We're going to talk about Maryland.
You brought it up, and Troy's done some amazing deep dive reporting.
There seems to be pedophilia at the highest levels in Maryland.
I want him to lay this out, and I want to hear what Liz thinks of it.
We'll be right back after this commercial message.
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I'm here with our guest, Liz Crokan, investigative journalist, author, documentary film producer, and one of the country's, I would say, foremost authorities on the whole question of child sex trafficking and the rampant pedophilia that does go on among the ruling elite around the world.
Troy Smith is a tough investigative reporter in his own right.
He's done some amazing reporting in the state of Maryland, and he's uncovered some very disturbing things.
Troy, tell us about it.
Well, Roger and Liz, I'm honored to get your thoughts on this because you've done so much work on the subject.
And basically what we uncovered here is that Larry Hogan, the former governor of Maryland, who's now running for U.S.
Senate, harbored a pedophile in his home.
And we reported this on Slingshot.News.
There's a bombshell video report that goes through all of this.
But just to give you a quick rundown, Liz, Kevin Lee Hall, a former Hogan aide back in 1992, was living in Hogan's house.
We know that because Hogan's campaign manager at the time, Ronald Gunsberger, told the Baltimore Sun that Hall had been living in his home.
He kidnapped and raped a 17-year-old boy at gunpoint.
He was arrested for this, and the story went away.
And I was told by sources, former MDGOP sources, that Hogan and his cronies kind of worked to squash it because Hogan has a big political name in Maryland.
He also appointed a person named Judge Jonathan Newell in Caroline County as a circuit court judge.
Newell was busted by the feds for allegedly taping children in his house.
He also had tapes in his house of him raping a 14-year-old boy.
When Maryland State Police was investigating him, Newell took his – there was a camera under his bed.
He reached under the bed.
He pulled out the SIM card to the camera.
He put it in his mouth and swallowed it.
The Maryland State Police took him to a local hospital where a CT scan was conducted.
They found a small metallic object in his stomach.
Eventually, that case was brought to the feds.
And on the morning that they raided him in September of 2021, they discovered Judge Jonathan Newell dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
There's another person, Luis Burunda, who is the Hogan Deputy State Secretary.
He was charged with distribution of child pornography.
And then there was Matthew Palmer, a Hogan Deputy Legislative Officer That was charged with distribution of child pornography as well.
Now, these are all people appointed by the former governor who is now running for U.S.
Senate.
These are all people that had very close connections with him.
And in the case of Judge Jonathan Newell, that was a 15-year term he appointed him to.
And in the case of Kevin Lee Hall, he had a pedophile living in his home.
Liz, what are your comments about this bombshell information that we published at Slingshot.News?
And does it speak to anything that you've been investigating yourself?
Well, I'm glad that you brought this case up.
And this kind of ties into what we were talking about earlier, how pedophilia and elite pedophile rings is nothing new.
This has been going on for many, many years, decades, hundreds of years, you know, thousands of years, actually, if you look back to ancient civilizations and how they would do their ritual sacrifices, blood sacrifices and and rape children.
But in terms of Baltimore, Maryland, number one, you will find all kinds of rings and pedophilia problems anywhere.
There's wealthy elites, right, especially anywhere around the D.C. area.
So there's D.C. is a mess and so is the surrounding area.
But I'm about Baltimore, Maryland.
When I first started going down this rabbit hole in 2016, 2017, learning that these elite pedophile rings were real and this child sex trafficking was real and way more massive than I had initially expected.
One of the docu-series that I watched that helped me understand how these rings operate Um, was a series called The Keepers, and I don't know if you're familiar with it, but it's the series exposes an elite pedophile ring going back to at least the 60s in Baltimore, Maryland.
And in this ring in Baltimore, Maryland, like I said, going back to the 60s, so we can still have people from that ring.
That were involved in that ring alive today.
Um, there were law enforcement members involved, local celebrity politicians, and the ring was mainly run out of a school where the head priest was raping the female students in his office.
And then he would bring in the Johns to the school to rape them at the school as well.
And like I said, there were politicians that were ushered in police officers.
And when I'm watching the series, you know, some of the survivors were saying, you know, some of the people that raped us were police officers.
So where do we go?
We're not going to report it to the police because some of the people involved in this ring is law enforcement.
And so this goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
A lot of these rings, whether they're massive rings or smaller rings, involve people in positions of great power.
So you may have people involved in law enforcement, lower levels, and even at high levels that are good people that want to take down these pedophiles.
But then it'll get up to someone at the top that may be involved in the ring or got the call, like Alex Acosta did when it came to Jeffrey Epstein.
And he was told, you know, he's involved in intelligence.
So, you know, back off of him, someone gets the call.
And then, you know, these predators either get a slap on the wrist or they just get away with it.
And that's been the problem.
With this particular case, I wouldn't be surprised if these people are involved in a bigger ring because most of them are.
Most of them, they travel in packs, you know, and they go online and they communicate in their code words.
So I wouldn't be surprised if these people were involved in a bigger ring and if there were at least involved in it because when you have Well, you know, in the state of Maryland, you know, things have gotten so out of hand, and you're exactly right.
that usually means that there's other people that they have secrets on that they could implicate. - Troy, your comments. - Well, in the state of Maryland, things have gotten so out of hand, you're exactly right.
I have seen that series, The Keepers, and I've heard a lot about that.
And I think it's important to highlight that, even though Hogan has all these ties to pedophiles, but the ties come from people who have been appointed to positions of power in government, and you're exactly right.
You know, if you're a victim in one of these rings, where do you go when the governor is appointing people that are abusing you?
Where do you go when you have people who are police officers who are abusing you?
And it creates this It's worse than a prison, isn't it, Liz?
I mean, it's really, it is worse than a prison because there's no way to escape it.
It's almost like, what has our country become?
What has the state of Maryland become?
All these states, we've allowed these elites to, they're raping the children.
And I don't mean just Just physically doing it.
They're doing it in a government way.
They're a broad stroke across everybody.
They're screwing over everybody, Liz, and it's infuriating to watch because where is our representation?
Where are these people following the rules and regulations of government and the Constitution of the United States?
They're not doing any of that.
They're not allowing people to be dignified.
They are literally destroying this country, and it's a terrible thing to see.
It is terrible to watch what happens to children in the state of Maryland, especially when they're surrounded by people who were appointed by Governor Hogan.
Yeah, and it's happening everywhere.
You know, we have the President of the United States, you know, Joe Biden, who I call Pato Peter, you know, he, there's 85,000 missing migrant children under his watch.
We know for a fact that His government is knowingly trafficking migrant children.
He is putting these children on secret flights, off-the-book flights, private jets, and he, they are knowingly, his government, the people that he works for, are knowingly taking these migrant children and sometimes More often than you think, placing them in the hands of pedophiles and our sex traffickers.
And we know that for a fact because there's been many whistleblowers that have worked at these migrant centers that have come forward and they've seen the evidence.
They have the proof that this is happening.
One of them, brave woman Tara Lee Rodas, she's on our board, Project Defend and Protect Our Children with America's Future with General Flint.
So this is not conspiracy theory.
This is real.
There are real victims out there that are dealing with this.
And there's children being trafficked all over the country, knowingly, by powerful people in our government.
And it needs to stop because it's been going on for too long.
And, you know, if we can't make Preventing, protecting children a priority in this country.
You know, we've not only failed as a country, we've just failed as humans, as far as I'm concerned.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, I want to ask Liz Kroken about P. Diddy and Justin Bieber, because something here does not look right to me.
We're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back.
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We're in the final moments here in the Stone John.
We're with Liz Crokin, investigative journalist, activist, and probably one of the most knowledgeable people in the country when it comes to the issue of child sex trafficking and the horrific pedophilia that's very prevalent among the ruling elites in this country.
So, Liz, I asked you a provocative question.
What do you think the deal is between P. Diddy and Justin Bieber?
Like you, I've watched these videos online over and over again trying to figure this out.
What do you think?
So, I'm glad you asked this question.
I've been following Bieber for years.
There have been rumors for years that he may have potentially been the victim of sexual abuse.
And unfortunately, in Hollywood, With these child stars, it's more common that they are abused, specifically sexually abused, than not.
There's a series that just came out exposing Nickelodeon that exposed all kind of pedophilia problems with Nickelodeon.
And we also know it happens at Disney and actually all the studios and in the music industry.
So there's been these rumors for years, you know, that potentially he was abused, you know, as a child star.
And fast forward to a few years ago, he came out with a song called Yummy.
And a lot of people were buzzing because he had all these strange social media posts where he was constantly posting pictures of babies.
And then he was also posting all these pictures of pizza.
And he would write, you know, out the song, you know, hashtag yummy in his posts.
And if you watch the video, It depicts him at a dinner with a bunch of elites, you know, in just kind of gorging themselves.
And from my perspective, I kind of felt that that was a cry for help.
And that was his way of saying that Pizzagate is real.
Because, you know, as I know, you know, pizza is a pedophile code word.
That they'll use often.
And that pizza has also been confirmed as a pedophile forward by the DOJ, by the FBI last year, the Wall Street Journal even confirmed it last year.
So I kind of felt that this video, you know, and him using posting all the pizza pictures was his way of saying that, you know, he he was a victim.
Now, if you look at some of his other songs and lyrics, you know, There's other songs that could suggest that, you know, he was a victim and he was crying out for help and he had really no one to turn to.
Okay, so fast forward to Diddy.
He's getting exposed.
There's all these lawsuits filed against him for, you know, allegedly being involved in child sex trafficking and all these other horrible things.
And then the feds raid his home.
Well, a lot of sleuths on the internet that have been researching Diddy are digging up all these old videos of him with Justin Bieber.
And now knowing what Diddy has been accused of, these videos are very disturbing.
There's a lot of videos of Diddy with Bieber, where Bieber seems very uncomfortable.
And Diddy's talking about, you know, how he has control over Bieber for like the next 48 hours.
And I think this one video, he's 15 or 16 years old.
And he says something along the lines of, you know, we're going to get involved in a bunch of crazy stuff, but we won't be allowed to talk about it.
There's another video where Diddy is asking Bieber, like, why don't we hang out anymore?
You know, why don't you call me anymore?
It's just kind of weird within itself.
And you can tell Bieber's uncomfortable and he just kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, I've been busy.
And then most recently, yesterday, there was a video going viral of Diddy, you know, hanging out or he ran into Bieber somewhere.
It looked like a golf course.
And he's just inappropriately touching him.
And a lot of people are thinking that he was touching him to see if he was wearing a wire.
So Between the videos, you know, the subliminal messages that Bieber may have been sending through his music, you know, and on social media, you know, there's a lot of people that think that Diddy may have abused him.
Really, really extraordinarily amazing.
We're going to put the link back up where you can follow all things Liz Kroken.
Let us urge you to go to her site.
Liz Crocod.net.
You can find the things she's written.
You can find access to the films she's helped produce.
She's an amazing human being.
She's a woman of enormous personal courage.
There are consequences for those who are truth-tellers.
We know this.
So, Liz, we pray for your safety.
We pray that you will continue your crusade to expose those Who are so heinous that they abuse children.
I can really think of nothing worse.
Tori, a final word from you?
Absolutely, Liz.
I just want to say thank you for all that you do.
And in this subject, you know, I've realized that, like Roger says, there's a lot here that happens when you talk about this kind of stuff.
There's a lot that happens in people moving things against you and trying to destroy you and silence you.
And it's not a easy fight, but it's a fight that is necessary because it is so important.
So thank you for all that you do in this subject.
Liz, just to be clear, you have an open invitation here at The Stone Zone at any time.
I'll bump another guest.
Anytime you have anything that you think is important to get out to the American people, you're more than welcome right here on The Stone Zone.
Well, I really appreciate that.
And I really look up to you, Roger.
Thanks for all you've done, you know, through the years fighting the good fight.
You know, I know you've been fighting the song going back decades, but I think you will have to have me back because, you know, we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg with Diddy, Nickelodeon, Hollywood.
I think that this year is the year of exposure and we're going to see a lot more dominoes fall and other people involved, you know, And Diddy's ring, you know, hopefully Jay-Z and others will be getting exposed.
This is the year.
You raise an excellent point.
We didn't get time today to get into Nickelodeon.
I definitely want to do that.
Let's get you back on the show next week.
There's a lot to dig into there.
But thank you again for joining us on The Stone Zone.
Thank you guys so much.
Have a great night.
Okay, Troy, an amazing interview with Liz Crokin.
We've got just a few minutes left here.
You want to pick up a political item?
Absolutely, Roger.
We could run something that just caught my eye this morning that is one of really, I mean, just one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.
You know, Roger, we've seen the footage of the mass groups of people surging the border.
We've seen 6.3, I believe, million illegal border crossings since the Biden administration took power.
Here's a video of Biden HHS Secretary Javier Becerra saying this morning that this administration has done everything it can to secure the southern border.
Denver Safety Net Hospital is in financial crisis right now due to the cost of uncompensated care.
A portion of it, certainly not a majority, but about $10 million over 16 months, was care for migrants who have come into Denver Health.
Given the fact that it's the Biden administration that has been unable to secure the southern border, is it incumbent upon you to find some discretionary HHS funds to help Denver Health stay afloat as it spends millions to care for migrants?
So I want to make sure one thing is very clear.
The border is, and obviously I'm not the Department of Homeland Security, but I will tell you this.
There is a process that is at work.
The laws in our immigration system have been broken for a long time.
And this administration has done everything it can under the law, that's the important part, under the law to make sure that we handle the border properly.
That's incredible, particularly in view of the fact that Homeland Secretary Mayorkas bragged about repealing all of the executive orders put in place by Donald Trump to secure our southern border.
These people think that the American people are stupid, or if they think they can blame the surge of illegals into the country under Joe Biden somehow on Donald Trump.
It really is delusional.
It's the kind of thing that a person who declares Easter The holiest of holy days, the day of Christ's resurrection, the day that is memorialized as Transgender Visibility Day, those kind of people would make that kind of insane claim.
Absolutely insane claim.
It's just completely out of reality, Roger.
And I think it goes the same way with the economy.
If you listen to these people talk, Roger, they say, oh, the economy's great.
Look at the Dow.
Look at the stock market.
Everything's fine.
They actually think things are OK.
And that's because it's their personal assistants that do their shopping.
It's because they don't get out into the real world.
They don't look at real things.
And when they go to a restaurant, they don't care what the menu price is because they have a lifetime of money taken from you, the people.
So these people don't give a damn about our struggles or the American people's struggles or the fact that we have April 15th looming, the day where most Americans pay a majority of their money to a government that does literally nothing for them.
I mean, in fact, spends all of their time trying to destroy them and calling them the enemy.
If you're an American and you believe in this country, you believe in our founding document, the entire government has waged war on you for decades.
And they've more recently completely just said, yeah, we're coming after you and we're coming after your right to vote.
We're coming after everything about your life.
We're going to spy on you.
We're going to destroy the candidates that you prop up politically.
It's an all out assault, Roger, on truth and on the people of this country.
And it has to stop because we can't take this much longer.
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