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Aug. 21, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Revolver News' Darren Beattie & Roger Stone on the Wave of Lawfare Against President Trump
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Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and you are back in the Stone Zone.
What we're seeing going on in America today is really unprecedented.
It is nothing less than the full weaponization of our judicial system for strictly political purposes.
But just as disturbing, it is the criminalization of constitutionally protected political activity and speech.
All designed to destroy one man's prospects of becoming President of the United States and cleaning out the two-party duopoly that is currently in the midst of driving the country into the ground.
Here to help me break this down with his always pithy and shrewd analysis is the editor-publisher of Revolver News, Darren Bailey.
Darren, welcome back to the Stone Zone.
Always a pleasure to be with you, Roger.
Thank you.
I really appreciate your making yourself available.
I almost don't know Where to start?
I guess let's start with the Georgia indictments.
Uh, once again, uh, Trump is accused of a crime, which includes, uh, which requires understanding and knowing for certainty his state of mind, what they call mens rea, the Latin term under law.
So the allegation is Trump knew that he had lost the election, knew it in his heart and in his mind.
And then the others joined a conspiracy with him to try to cling to power, in this case, to try to get a different result from Georgia.
Is that a pretty good summary?
It is a good summary.
And I think you've identified one of the key and really most conspicuously absurd features of several of the recent indictments.
And that is this assertion that occurs throughout the various legal charges that Trump knowingly lied when it comes to
Statements regarding the 2020 election as you point out for them to truly know that they would have to read his mind Which even they kind of acknowledge that they're not able to do so they establish this assertion By means of a proxy method they can't get into his thoughts and read his mind But they can say
Well, authoritative experts told him that the election was fair and square, and these experts are so authoritative that he had to have known that they were telling the truth, and for him to contradict them publicly is tantamount to lying.
We see this in the Jack Smith indictment, the one just before Georgia, which is a federal indictment, really the January 6th indictment, I think it's fair to say, where they say, Trump knowingly lied.
And they say we know that he knowingly lied because he was informed that the election was all sound, all perfect, by none other than Mike Pence.
By none other than the Director of National Intelligence.
By none other than the Department of Homeland Security's CISA, which is really a remarkable thing because CISA has just been exposed through the Twitter files and other reporting, as having violated Americans' constitutional rights, the First Amendment rights, by leaning on social media companies to censor information, including the Hunter laptop issue, leading up to the 2020 election.
And so basically, the argument that the government's making in the Jack Smith case, in the January 6th indictment, is we know he's lying because he didn't take the word of these quote-unquote experts who had been lying to the American public, who had been working to undermine Trump and his agenda from day one, and who have been exposed, who have lied about critical matters pertaining to the election.
Because Trump didn't take their authoritative word for it, we can reasonably infer that he was lying.
That is their argument, and that is not Just ridiculous.
It is dangerous because it's saying that not listening to regime-approved experts who have been proven to lie to the American people but to not take their word for something could result in a criminal offense.
Yeah, it's really quite extraordinary.
On the question of whether or not Mike Pence actually had the legal authority to send electors back to state legislatures for re-examination based on election returns.
It's my understanding that when President Trump presented the Vice President with a legal opinion that he did, and let me say that I'm not a lawyer, Mike Pence wasn't sure.
He actually asked Dan Quayle, a former vice president, who recommended that he consult with a constitutional lawyer who disagreed with the legal opinion held by Donald Trump and his lawyers.
So both men consulted attorneys.
Clearly, one clear line of defense is Trump acted based on the recommendation of his attorney.
By the way, that's Pence's defense as well as to why he made the decision that he did.
But I don't think it will be possible for Mike Pence to say at any time, Trump told me that he knew he lost the election, but he wanted me to send these electors back to the states anyway.
I don't think Trump believed it then.
I certainly don't think he believes it now.
My guess is, even though they're not admissible, he could easily pass a polygraph test.
I was in the eye of the storm late last week because I had the audacity to correctly cite Article 2 of the U.S.
Constitution, which says that the state legislatures have the authority to certify the electors that go to the Electoral College.
And within that context, they have the authority to examine the election results.
And this was days before the election that I said that.
If there was evidence of theft, that process, which would be a very public, open, transparent process, may have to take place.
Oh, my God.
You see, this is proof that Stone knew Trump was going to lose.
Well, no, it's proof that I saw Joe Biden say in a video that we have put together the most comprehensive voter fraud operation in the history of America.
I saw him say it.
I heard him say it with my own ears.
It's not not would that not give one reasonable pause to believe that there might be something not on the up and up about the election.
They actually openly bragged about it.
But nonetheless, all the usual suspects, Andrew Weissman wants me immediately charged, although I guess it's for thought crimes, because as I have made clear repeatedly, I had no involvement in the efforts to persuade the vice president to delay I had no involvement in the efforts to persuade the vice president to delay the certification I had no involvement in Georgia or any other state.
I wrote a memo based on my own knowledge and history of the law.
As I'm sure you know, Darren, in 1960, the Hawaiian legislature had...
And the Hawaiian courts, for that matter, approved a delegate slate pledge to Vice President Richard Nixon because on election night it appeared that Nixon had won.
The forces of Senator John Kennedy filed an alternative slate based on late returns and absentee ballots.
Hawaii ended up going for Kennedy.
Nixon's electors were unelected.
The Kennedy alternative electors were selected.
And were sent to the Electoral College.
There is a legal precedent that absolutely proves that what I said in this short video is absolutely true.
But here I am back in the crosshairs of the deep state simply for telling the truth.
No, it's remarkable.
And really what it comes down to is they're trying to criminalize any questioning of the 2020 election directly in relation to Trump so they can take him off the table for 2024.
But additionally, to set the precedent that anyone who questions what they do in 2024 is liable to criminal prosecution.
So it's kind of a two birds with one stone deal for them.
they can, they hope, use these criminal indictments to...
you know, in a targeted fashion, remove Trump or at least encumber him to the point that he's not able to compete successfully.
And to establish the precedent that, yes, if you question anything that they're doing come 2024, there's already a history in place indicating that you could indeed be criminally charged.
Just one additional point on the reading, the mind reading theory from the indictments and using authoritative experts like Mike Pence and the Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence as proxies for the unimpeachable the mind reading theory from the indictments and using authoritative experts like Mike Pence and the Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence We're We've seen this
A ploy implemented on the civil level in the lawsuit against Fox News, Ray Epps's lawsuit against Fox News, which features Tucker Carlson and yours truly extensively.
They claim that Tucker Carlson knowingly lied, the same terminology in his reporting on Epps.
How did they establish that Tucker knowingly lied?
Well, they didn't have the mind reading machine with him any more than they do with Trump.
Same deal, they say that authoritative sources told Trump that everything, told Tucker Carlson that everything was fine with January 6th.
Who are these authoritative sources?
One they mention is some corporate hack at Fox News, just some hack from the corporate side of Fox.
Secondly, and most outrageously, they cite the January 6th committee.
That is to say, the January 6th committee said there's nothing to see here in regard to Ray Epps, and so for Tucker Carlson to deviate from that authoritative pronouncement is tantamount to a reckless disregard for the truth from a civil legal standpoint.
Same principle.
And just to add the insult to the injury, and this was very, very hurtful, of course, they said another example of how Tucker operated with reckless disregard for the truth is that he based his reporting off of that of Darren Beattie, who is a known purveyor of conspiracy theories.
So simply for Tucker Carlson to amplify my reporting constitutes from their point of view, reckless disregard for truth.
But Forget about the fact that we've been vindicated time and time again.
The New York Times begrudgingly acknowledged there were informants everywhere, including in the Proud Boys, while January 6th was unfolding.
Forget about the fact that the public face of the pipe bomb investigation came forward and basically acknowledged all of the underlying questions pertaining to our reporting on that.
And then lastly, and most recently, there was a leak of Tucker Carlson's buried interview with Steven Sung, the former head of the Capitol Police, who came out and said, yeah, there are a lot of really, really important questions surrounding Ray Epps.
So from there, but from the position of Ray Epps' legal counsel, which is sort of an extension of the David Brock Democrat Hatchet Network.
From their perspective, for Trump not to listen to the authoritative voice of the January 6th committee is tantamount to lying.
And for Tucker Carlson to base his reporting off of Revolver News and Darren Beattie is tantamount to reckless disregard for truth.
So what it boils down to on both the civil level and the federal criminal level is, if you don't take their appointed expert's word as gospel, you're liable to imprisonment or bankruptcy.
And conversely, if you lend any authority to those that the regime designates as conspiracy theorists or thought criminals, You can be similarly charged with reckless disregard for truth.
So it really is an interesting ploy that they've implemented on both the civil and the federal level that uses the same tactic that ultimately amounts to saying, if you don't listen to our experts, you can get bankrupted or worse, we'll criminally charge you and throw you in prison.
Yeah, the January 6th committee investigation, if I may paraphrase Richard Nixon when he spoke about the Warren Commission, was the biggest goddamn hoax in American history.
There was a witness that they produced, a woman named Cassidy Hutchison, I do not know Miss Hutchison, who said specifically that the president He instructed his Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, to call Roger Stone and General Michael Flynn to quote-unquote find out what was going to happen on January 6th.
When she was asked whether that call was completed, she said, yes, it was.
There never was any such call.
I've never spoken on the phone or actually had any direct or indirect communication with Mark Meadows.
I did meet him once when he was a congressman in a green room at Fox.
Checking with my friend General Flynn, he had no such contact either.
Then she goes on to say that Meadows was headed over to a war room at the Willard Hotel.
But she persuaded Meadows not to go to this meeting, but to instead call Stone and Flynn for a download on how the meeting went.
Not only did that call not happen, but neither Stone nor Flynn is aware of or was in any War room at the Willard Hotel if one even existed so so much for that they also use some very cleverly manipulated videos, in which my voice is heard, but it's disembodied.
It is really extensively fraudulent, selectively edited, and I think there's a little AI in there as well.
This is one of the great frauds of all time.
And as you know, the makeup of the committee kind of proves the point.
None of the recommendations of the House minority leader were included in the committee.
The chairman of the committee, Bernie Thompson, had already filed a civil suit against Donald Trump, accusing him of fomenting the violence and being responsible for everything that happened that day that was illegal.
So how could he be an honest broker, an honest arbiter of this fact-finding committee that included not one single supporter of Donald Trump?
At least the Senate Watergate Committee had a few members on the committee who supported Nixon.
This was a lynch mob.
And Jamie Raskin would go out and tease this stuff.
Oh, we've got the goods on stone now.
You have the goods of nothing.
It really, really is.
Darren, where do we go from here?
I'd like to see, for example, in Georgia, where I think this is the most outrageous of the indictments.
I've listened to the entire transcript.
or the entire audio.
And I've read the transcript of the telephone call between President Trump and Secretary of State Raffensperger.
It's very clear Trump does not tell him to go out and find, meaning manufacture, some 12,000, some odd votes.
What he tells him is, You have already counted more than 12,000 illegal ballots.
And when you exclude those, as you correctly should, convicted felons, people who registered to vote from post office boxes, people who are deceased, well, that would give victory to me.
Have you listened to the audio or read the transcript?
Yes, I think it's completely bogus.
It's completely ridiculous.
But it's not even the most ridiculous feature of this Georgia indictment.
I think another thing that bears mention is the overextension and really abuse of the underlying concept of conspiracy in these recent cases against Trump and other figures associated with Trump.
It goes to the point that they're asserting that tweets qualify as overt acts in furtherance of this alleged conspiracy to overturn the election.
Now, if you know about conspiracy law for the audience, overt act is supposed to be something like, okay, if you're planning to, you know, commit a terrorist act at a building, maybe, you know, purchasing a map indicating how the most efficient route to the building, that could be considered an overt act.
But the problem is it's very flexible.
It's very poorly defined.
I think it's really liable to abuse.
And in this case, they're saying that even things like tweeting out, hey, people watch OAN.
You know, watch this channel.
There's a hearing on the election going on in Georgia.
Watch this.
They're claiming that those are effectively criminal.
And so you see, yet again, tweets effectively have been deemed illegal.
You see a precedent for that already established in another context.
This individual called Douglas Mackey, who was arrested by the FBI very shortly after Biden's inauguration, charged with this antiquated offense called conspiracy against rights, which had never been used in that context, but they're trying to stretch it in order to accommodate or affect this idea that the disinformation scam can be codified into criminal law.
So they said, this person did tweets mocking Hillary Clinton, we're claiming their disinformation and therefore defrauded people of the right to vote.
Incidentally, in the Jack Smith indictment, the federal indictment, Trump is charged with the very same offense, this conspiracy against rights offense, which is totally divorced from its original context.
And here in the Georgia case, they find another way to make...
It looks like we had a freeze there.
Oh, that's going to be great.
All right.
He...
He makes reference to the Smith indictment.
It seems to me that if one of the counts is that Trump denied the rights of people... He's right.
He's back.
He's right.
All right, let's bring him back in.
Sorry about that.
Darren, you were making an excellent point.
If one of the counts in D.C.
is that Trump denied the rights of those who voted for Biden, Well, then anyone who voted for Biden would seem to me to have a conflict of interest, is a legal term for it, in terms of serving on the jury.
They would be an interested party.
They would be an affected party in the legal action.
So I'm not sure how that can work.
That's another interesting consideration.
I think, you know, the bottom line is these are clearly politically Motivated charges.
We can dissect it all day long for the multiplicity of egregious constitutional violations, just the legal absurdity of it all.
But at the end of the day, that this is what they're doing.
This is the new reality in the banana boat republic of the United States.
And I've been saying elsewhere that unless we can have a tit-for-tat situation where we build up a robust capacity to answer their lawfare with our own, I don't see how there's any end to this situation either.
I think that's going to be a lot more difficult on the federal level, but on the state level, we have many of our own potential Fulton counties with many very viable prosecutions that are far more legitimate than the ridiculous charge against Trump out of Georgia.
We should have our own DAs Weaponized accordingly in order to answer tit-for-tat.
Otherwise, we're just going to get run over by increasingly intense lawfare tactics on the part of the corrupt Democrat establishment.
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It is a very sad state of affairs.
One wonders if at some point the U.S.
Supreme Court is going to step up and end this charade.
I mean, I heard from people in Arizona that there may be a similar indictment brought against Trump in Arizona.
It seems to me that this is now piling on.
Who has worked on 13 national presidential campaigns.
I understand this.
There are three goals.
One is to drain Trump of his financial resources because he has to now pay or help pay for the legal protection, the legal representation of all those charged with him.
Secondary, not to mention his own defense, which will cost tens of millions of dollars.
Secondarily, in key parts of next year, presumably, when he's supposed to be campaigning in the early primaries and caucuses, he's going to be tied up In a trial.
That seems to me to be intrinsically unfair.
Perfect example of how this is election interference.
And then lastly is the just ongoing effort by the mainstream media to bury the shocking revelations about the epic corruption of Hunter Biden.
And to try to obviously take any opportunity to take a shot at Donald Trump.
I mean, to watch Andrea Mitchell, who really should be put out to pasture.
Now, I understand, I noticed in the Marco Polo download of Hunter Biden's laptop that Andrea Mitchell attended Biden's daughter's graduation, and that her husband, the former head of the Fed,
arranged to get a $6 million donation for the Penn Center from one of his very wealthy Chinese friends, who was reputed to be in Chinese intelligence.
I speak of Dr. Greenspan. - Right.
This is incestuous.
This is all the Washington establishment watching each other's backs.
I don't know what the solution is other than prayer.
I do know this, that having spent time recently with Donald Trump, he is extraordinarily resilient, extraordinarily determined, extraordinarily Resolute and in amazingly good humor.
And Joel Benenson, Democrat pollster, pollster for Hillary Clinton, pollster for Barack Obama, a very credible and I think methodologically competent pollster, shows a 46-46 dead heat for Donald Trump and Joe Biden, which is remarkable when you look at the efforts by the media to downplay Where is this race today?
about Biden and the Biden crime family and the constant tsunami of vituperation that Donald Trump is subjected to.
Dr. Beatty, where do you think this where this where is this race today?
If this election in a general election were held tomorrow and if we had a free, fair, honest, transparent election, what would happen?
Well, those are two pretty big ifs, but I think if those conditions were met, Trump would win.
I think that's pretty clear, and I think the system, the regime knows that, and that's why they're not done with indictments.
We're going to have even more indictments.
They're just getting started in many ways.
I think the last time I was on your program, I predicted that they would escalate the The second to latest indictment, the January 6th indictment with superseding charges related to seditious conspiracy.
I think that will intensify things greatly.
And I think they're waiting for the appropriate timing politically, such as to maximize damage to Trump.
So it's very clear that the system regards him as the number one threat.
That's why he's facing these unprecedented, um, Politicized attacks coming from the Justice Department and so forth.
And that's just the reality of it.
And thankfully, as you point out, Trump is an anti-fragile individual.
He has a person of really superhuman resilience in many ways.
And I would imagine this has only strengthened his resolve because he understands now more than ever what's really at stake.
There's no point in coming this far and then giving up.
Everything's on the line, really, not only for him personally, but for the country and the future, the kind of country that we live in.
This is a major escalatory development whereby the Department of Justice is so nakedly weaponized politically.
They're not even really trying to hide it.
It's just a raw exercise of power that contradicts not only the underlying sense that, you know, United States is a free society governed by law and order, but it contradicts even the hypocrisy, whereby those who have abused the legal system at least pretend that they're not doing so.
We've abandoned even that pretense.
So we're in really disturbing, uncharted waters here.
And again, the GOP needs to wise up because Trump, as important as he is, he's one individual and and he's not gonna last forever.
And a lot of the battleground here has to do with systemic approaches to allocating capital politically.
And George Soros proved himself yet again to be a brilliant investor when he put money into politicizing DAs throughout the country.
And the GOP needs a robust, aggressive, and relentless response to this, or it's done.
Yeah, I was surprised that the charge of sedition, which if convicted would prevent Trump from running again constitutionally, at least that is one argument, has not yet been brought.
But I also think it's interesting that all of these Wooly-headed left-wing law professors are already coming out saying, oh he's already ineligible because he's engaged in insurrection.
According to whom?
According to your opinion?
Show me a court decision that says that.
It's not true just because some law professor who can't find his ass from his elbow says so.
It is really, it is so elitist and so outrageous.
But I see this this narrative being repeated over and over again.
Look, he poses an existential threat to the established order.
There's, I think, credible reports of a potential pandemic in October.
I'm not sure how you could possibly know that in advance, but it's coming from a number of credible sources.
So I put nothing whatsoever past them.
Final question for Darren Beatty.
What is your current thinking on the candidacy of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
and the decision by the Biden Department of Homeland Security not to give him the Secret Service protection that he has requested?
Well, I have mixed feelings about Robert Kennedy.
I think sort of symbolically he represents something positive in the political conversation.
There are a lot of drawbacks substantively as well.
But of course, he is a subversive figure, especially and primarily on the side of, you know, within the Democrat Party, serving the same function that Bernie Sanders served.
And Bernie Sanders was given A very special kind of treatment and they boxed him out fairly easily.
Looks like they're trying to do the same thing with him, although maybe a more vicious, malicious version whereby they're denying him Secret Service protection and I'm sure they'll close ranks to keep him out completely.
Again, an offense against what we would consider to be the norms of democratic procedure, but these are now routinely violated, and he's serving the kind of Bernie role, and he's getting the Bernie treatment.
He may not ultimately be as compliant as Bernie turned out to be, and I think on the issues he's superior to Bernie, but in the grand scheme of things, I think that's what we see playing out.
Yeah, he's the only national Democrat I can think of who wants to seal our southern border.
He's the only national Democrat I can think of who is extraordinarily skeptical about our adventures in Ukraine.
And of course, I like his position on health freedom, but that is not the centerpiece of his campaign.
He keeps calling himself the peace and freedom candidate, which I think is very smart.
He's very concerned that the way we have hollowed out opportunity for the middle class.
But I completely agree with your analysis.
He's going to get the Bernie Sanders treatment, but for different reasons.
It just outrages me that his father was brutally murdered while running for president, that the laws that make Robert Kennedy Jr. eligible for Secret Service protection were passed in the immediate aftermath of his father's murder. that the laws that make Robert Kennedy Jr. eligible for His uncle was murdered while serving as president.
He has reached the 15% threshold.
He's duly registered with the Federal Election Commission.
And as long as the media Heaps this vituperation and hatred on him.
He's an extremist.
He's a nutjob.
That, I think, could motivate some insane person or some extremist or some terrorist to try to harm him or even kill him.
Which I think is abhorrent.
So on the one hand, they torque up the threat to him.
On the other hand, they deny him service.
I mean, even Jimmy Carter ordered secret service attention for Ted Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy's uncle, when he was challenging him.
And Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter despised each other.
Literally despised each other.
So it is a really, I guess it is an effort two-fold.
to drain Robert Kennedy's campaign because now he has to pay for personal security out of limited campaign funds.
But also, they don't want to give him Secret Service protection because they think it elevates his credibility as a candidate.
It is really, truly disgusting.
Alright, I'm afraid we are out of time.
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Darren Beatty, thank you for joining us in the Stone Zone.
Thank you.
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Now let's go to Johnny Tobacco, who was out there yesterday in Staten Island, and tell us what you saw.
Johnny Tobacco, welcome to the Stone's Office.
Roger.
Thank you for having me in the stone zone again.
I love being in the zone with you.
But look, you characterized it pretty close to right.
It was a citizen's uprising.
And it's not going to stop.
You know, it was happening in Queens and courteously what was out there.
Roger, you know we got some great patriots.
Everybody thinks New York City is this big blue town.
where they were fighting back against thousands of illegal immigrants being shipped into Queens, the Creedmoor Psychiatric Facility.
Now they find out that they're going to start busting them over here to Staten Island, New York.
And Roger, you know, we got some great patriots.
Everybody thinks New York City is this big blue town.
It is.
But Staten Island is a rare breed.
I call it the red-headed step borough of New York City.
We got great patriots, we got great Republicans, and we got great people who are moderate Democrats.
And yesterday, I would say nearly a thousand people came out on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
To protest the Adams decision to move 200 illegal immigrant families to what was just a few months ago, a senior assisted living facility.
They told all these people, oh, well, we're going to sell the building, we're not going to be in the senior business anymore.
And they cajoled them out the door.
Um, and then right after that, just a couple of months back, they took the building off the market, they cut a deal with the city to bring in 200 immigrant families, and uh, now we're just not gonna stand for it.
We're charitable people, we're great people, we're Christian people.
We believe in the basic tenets of America, faith, family, and freedom.
But we got a homeless problem, we got a mental health problem, and we have a veteran and a senior problem here in Staten Island and across this city for our regular American folks.
And we're just saying to Mayor Adams and the Biden administration in Staten Island, we say no.
And when you want to come here and take care of our problems that Americans are facing, then come back to us and ask us to do a little charity.
But in the meantime, we got to get our house in order.
Well, Staten Island is also the place as great people, as you point out, also has a great pizza and it has a great borough president in Vito Fussella, who's been very, very strong on this issue.
How does Eric Adams, the current mayor, a Democrat, not recognize that this problem is being caused by his president and their open borders policy?
New York City, it's not just Staten Island, it's just beginning to be Staten Island.
The Roosevelt Hotel, which is a landmark hotel, Which was once the headquarters of Mayor John V. Lindsay, of Governor Nelson Rockefeller, of Governor Thomas E. Dewey, who was not only Governor of New York in 1950, but the Republican candidate for president in 1944 and 1948.
This is a landmark property.
It is now a migrant hotel.
It is also, based on what I've read in the New York Post, it is an epicentric of crime.
There are actually fights going on.
In the lobby.
So the safety of New Yorkers is being is being shredded by the Biden Adams policies regarding migrants.
Well, look, just a few months ago, Eric Adams came out and said he proclaimed himself the Biden of Brooklyn.
So he's, like, actually buddying up with the president.
And, you know, a few months ago, he was saying, hey, we're a sanctuary city.
We need to have open arms for these people.
But now he's singing a different tune.
He's crying, Uncle.
He's crying, Uncle Joe, please help us.
And the reporting that I have is that people in the Biden administration have told Adams, hold tight.
When Biden wins the election, then we'll send some more money down there.
But we can't acknowledge that's a problem.
So he's been turned down by the feds.
He got a couple of bucks from Kathy Hochul at the state level, but it's certainly not enough.
And you pointed out we have a great borough president here.
Who many people may not realize, but Vito Vassallo, our former congressman, was actually endorsed personally by Donald Trump.
So he's an America first guy.
And he's been saying for the last couple of months to Eric Adams publicly and privately, This is unsustainable.
Show me where I get more classroom seats.
Show me where I get more money for my seniors and my veterans and my homeless.
Show me where this money comes from.
And Eric Adams used to have this saying, show me the money.
But it seems like, and you point out the Roosevelt Hotel, there was a very cushy sweetheart deal where Eric Adams cut a kind of look the other way deal for a couple hundred million dollars with the owners of the Roosevelt Hotel.
And if you know anything about Eric Adams and the people that he has around him, you could be sure, Roger, that there were some paper bags handed out with some shakamoleans in them because that's the way this guy does business.
And here in Staten Island, look, you said we have great pizza.
We also have the greatest pizza protester in American history, Scott Lebado out here.
He was out there with us yesterday.
He got arrested.
Curtis Slebo was out there yesterday.
He ran for mayor.
Many people were chanting Curtis for mayor yesterday.
I think there's some voters remorse going on.
But we're not stopping.
We started in Queens.
We came to Staten Island last week and this week.
And this Sunday, we got the permits.
We're going right to Gracie Mansion, and we're telling Eric Adams, before you want to start putting illegal aliens in our backyard, you take them in your backyard.
And he's got a big, huge tent out there behind Gracie Mansion.
You can go on Google Earth to look at it.
We estimate Eric Adams can hold at least 500 illegal aliens in the tent currently in his backyard.
And it'll probably go a long way to asking other people for help with this crisis if he takes it on first.
So we're going to occupy Gracie Mansion.
We're going to be there this Sunday at two o'clock.
And I encourage anybody who's around the tri-state area, get down there because if the illegal immigrants aren't in your neighborhood yet, They're coming soon to a theater near you.
So you got it.
We got to stop it and we got to fight it on every front.
John, I'm actually hearing speculation that they, when they can no longer find brick and mortar facilities, that we're talking about tent cities.
That they're talking about setting up tent cities.
And that they may even do that on Staten Island.
Do it in Queens.
New York has already got enough problems.
It's got the highest taxes in the country.
I'm convinced that they're jiggering the crime rates.
The crime rates in Staten Island, they don't even seek to manipulate.
They are up sharply in every single category.
Every category.
In fact, crime is up more sharply in Staten Island than in any other borough.
This leaves me to believe that they're changing the nature of the neighborhood, of the community.
Eric Adams, I had Hank Sheinkoff, the noted Democratic political consultant on my WABC radio show, which by the way airs from 3 to 5 every Sunday at wabcradio.com,
And he actually said that he felt that Eric Adams could be cross pressured from the left, from a progressive candidate, if another candidate got into that race who's perceived as a moderate, particularly a moderate woman, the swagger mayor, as he likes to call himself.
I guess he doesn't call himself that anymore.
The Swagger Mayor could be in deep trouble.
He's got an extraordinary number of scandals going on.
Campaign finance scandals, among other.
Scandals in the police department.
We've talked extensively about the case of Officer Salvatore Greco who was fired from his job at the New York Police Department where he had an unblemished record of service to the people of New York of 14 years without a single demerit, held the record for DUI arrests, sometimes assigned
To the most dangerous graveyard shifts in the city, but he was terminated solely under a vague regulation of the New York Police Department because he's a friend of mine.
And they say, well, that I may have or may in the future can be suspected of being engaged in criminal activity.
Well, what about Cardi B?
She's a known convicted gangbanger.
They invited her to come speak at the New York Police Academy.
So every officer came in touch with her.
Why haven't they been terminated?
Eric Adams, who as a police captain, divulged in The New Yorker last week, but also in his own biography, providing private security, which is legal, to Louis Farrakhan, a convicted felon, to Mike Tyson, who I like, but still a convicted felon.
So why one standard of justice for Eric Adams, who paid no penalty, was brought up on charges of violating that same regulation, and they docked his vacation pay a few days, but Officer Salvatore Greco, a proud son of Staten Island, he gets terminated, a proud son of Staten Island, he gets terminated, he loses his pension, he loses his job, he can't get a job as a police officer in any other jurisdiction, because they won't give him a good conduct letter.
He's in court suing.
And just a week ago, John, the governor, The federal judge in his case said the case can move forward.
He dropped New York City from the case, but Greco is allowed to move forward and sue those responsible for his termination, which I believe will put Eric Adams on the stand.
And then we can start asking him about a bunch of his criminal associations.
Yeah, I like that idea.
A lot to unpack there, but I want to go back when you said Sal is being persecuted for being a friend of yours.
Did you mean he's a friend of mine or he's a friend of ours?
He's both a friend of mine and he's a friend of ours.
He's being persecuted.
He's from Staten Island and he's a friend of ours.
I understand that.
I announced on WABC Radio this past Sunday the formulation of the New Jersey-based Italian American Civil Rights League, and this is a nonprofit charitable organization that is being set up To a fight against anti-Italian American discrimination and to preserve our history, our heritage, and our culture.
I think Italian Americans are being unfairly discriminated against.
When they tear down the statue of Mayor Frank Rizzo that was outside City Hall in Philadelphia, that's wrong.
When they take down statues of Christopher Columbus, that's wrong.
So I think it's time that those of us, and by the way, my mother's maiden name is Corbo.
So I am Italian, half Sicilian.
Oh yeah.
I'm Sicilian from the waist down.
And very soon we will unveil the website and people will be able to join.
This is again a non-profit charitable organization, but we're going to fight anti-Italian American discrimination.
I think there'll be a lot of people.
I'm down.
I'm down.
I heard you on Sunday, and by the way, people out there who aren't listening to 77 WABC Radio, you gotta go to wabcradio.com.
You gotta listen to Roger every Sunday, 3 to 5.
It's one of the best radio shows I've ever heard.
I try to get in my car or somewhere every week to listen to Roger.
He's got the best guests, the best recipes.
And I reached out to Mike Crispy, Roger, and I told him that I want to be the head of the Staten Island chapter of the Italian-American Defense League because we got the most Italian-American congressional district in the country, I think.
And we're proud of our heritage out here.
And, you know, a lot of people think they see Staten Islanders on TV and they think we're on the Jersey Shore or the Mob Wives.
We got great, hardworking families here, blue collars, white picket fences, who want to just go out and make this country and our city a better place.
And you're right, Italians are constantly crapped upon.
And I always say, you know, I see I look a little dark today because I was out in the sun yesterday and I'm Sicilian too.
I always say that, you know, the government kind of screwed us Italians by classifying us as Caucasians when we came in.
They should have classified us as Italians and we'd be our own minority.
But nobody goes out there and fights for the Italians.
But time and time again, I'm either mocked for having a vowel at the end of my name and having an Italian accent, or I'm disqualified from certain things because they just immediately assume this guy's just a guido from Staten Island and he's not smart and he must be involved with the mob.
My dad was a cop, and you mentioned the cops before.
We're at the lowest volume.
We're at the lowest amount of cops in New York City, I think in history.
And by the way, myself for my show Wise Guys on Newsmax, and my co-host Cara Castronova, who also writes for Gateway Pundit.
We went there and we sat in that hearing room and we listened to Sal Greco's case and from the start to the finish it was a whole bunch of hogwash.
I've tried to bring it to light.
I know nobody does more than you to bring Sal's case to light.
But I was very pleased when I saw that the judge allowed the case to go through.
And when you said this may get Eric Adams on the stand, a lot of people don't know this because he's always going around with the swagger man with no plan routine.
He's always talking and bragging about how he was a cop and all this other stuff.
Many people may not know this, but I do because my dad was a cop.
A lot of his friends are still cops or just retired cops.
Eric Adams, when he was a cop, was a rat.
He worked in the Internal Affairs Bureau and he spent most of his career pushing paper and running undercover operations to bust white cops.
So he's a racist rat and there's even video out there saying how he went out every day to kick them white crackers in the ass.
We got a problem on our hands with this guy.
And I don't know if Hank Sheinkopf said it, but I've heard some other pundits say Eric Adams is running the risk right now of being a one term mayor.
And a lot of people here in New York are disgusted with him.
I think that's an excellent analysis.
For folks at home, if you were seeing that video, that was the legendary Curtis Sliwa, the founder and president of the Guardian Angels, longtime veteran of New York Radio.
You can also hear him at wabcradio.com.
I think this is like the 78th time in his career Uh, that, uh, that, uh, that Curtis Lewa was arrested because of his peaceful protest of some important issue to the community.
So my hat is off to him.
Uh, uh, maybe he'll take off his red.
There he is.
That's Curtis Lewa, legendary figure, the Republican candidate for mayor in the last election.
He ran a valiant, uh, but uphill race against, uh, against Eric Adams.
The former borough president, the former state senator, the Tammany Hall Democrat.
He is the man, as you point out, the man with no plan.
He could be the best dressed mayor since Jimmy Walker.
He could be the most corrupt mayor since William O'Dwyer.
And he could be the most incompetent mayor since Bill de Blasio, who was not Italian, who was German.
That's right.
Warren Wilhelm, for those of you who don't know.
Roger, you could have said it better.
Lots of people were asking for you yesterday.
They know that you and I have a friendship.
They're saying, where's Roger?
We love Roger.
And I got to tell you, a lot of people are talking about your radio show here in New York.
Buzzing all around the country and doing some great things trying to help Donald Trump get back in office and turn this country around.
But you gotta please, your audience is growing like you can't believe everybody's talking about it.
And that Sunday afternoon show was a breath of fresh air.
I can tell you that.
I thank you very much for that.
All right.
We are out of time.
This is John Tobacco, a patriot, Wall Street wizard, I might add, but who was out there yesterday in the hot sun in Staten Island, engaged in peaceful protests where they're essentially kicking out senior citizens who are American citizens.
I read about the case of a 95-year-old widow whose husband stormed the beaches in Normandy, kicked out of her apartment to make way for these illegal migrants.
It is a tragedy.
It's an outrage.
So, John Tobacco, I thank you for being out there to peacefully protest these wrong-headed policies.
And thank you for joining us again in The Stones.
I love it.
Roger, I learned from the best, you, and we're always trying to make you proud out here.
Alright folks we are out of time.
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