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Aug. 9, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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British Freedom Fighter Tommy Robinson Enters The StoneZONE w/ Roger Stone
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And now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon, and pundit, Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, he is a New York Times best-selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and you are back in the Stone Zone.
Since I have been restored to Twitter, I have basically shied away from something called the Twitter space.
These are gatherings in which there's only audio, in which you have a moderator, in which anyone can join, and there are discussions of various topics.
Generally speaking, it is a format that I don't care for, and I actually, late in the evening, get no joy from arguing with people who don't know anything.
Therefore, my participation in Twitter spaces have been extraordinarily rare.
I think that will probably continue to be the case.
But last night there was a Twitter space that included my good friend Laura Loomer and then I read that Tommy Robinson would be included.
Tommy Robinson is a man who I admire and have enormous respect for.
Like me, he's been the subject of political persecution because of his views.
Tommy Robinson is a free speech absolutist, a political activist, a critic of radical Islam.
Tommy Robinson is well versed in the Islamic religion and has brought to light many of the issues that uncontrolled Muslim immigration has brought to the UK.
For example, the impact of Sharia law.
Backwards views on women and girls, the industrialized rape and molestation of generations of British wives, mothers, daughters, women, and the slaughter of apostates.
Tommy Robinson has paid heavily for his outspoken views.
He is a man of uncommon courage and bravery.
He's talked candidly about immigration, Islam, government overreach and tyranny, COVID, the vaccination, and other controversial issues.
He is a fearless voice in a world stifled by political correctness and the insane, insidious, woke agenda that troubles us all.
Freedom doesn't come free.
It only comes with great sacrifice.
There are few men on the globe who have sacrificed as much as Tommy Robinson.
Tommy has at times sacrificed his life, his liberty, his safety, and his happiness to bravely speak out on these issues that others do not speak out of because of fear of the consequences.
Tommy Robinson, citizen of the world, patriot, joins us now in the Stone Zone.
Hello, Roger.
How are you?
It's a privilege to be here, mate.
A privilege to be here.
I am really honored to have you on the show.
We tried to do this previously.
It got off track because of some logistical issues.
Then last night when I saw that you were going to be in this epic Twitter space, I was reminded that we needed to get it rescheduled.
Well, mate, here we are.
I guess a good place to start, because of the vast censorship that takes place both in your country and ours, many Americans are not familiar with who you are and what you have done.
So perhaps that's a good start.
Tell folks who have been living under a rock who you are, what you have done, and the outrageous persecution that you have suffered because of it.
Okay, so I'm from a town that is 30 miles north of London called Luton.
It's a working-class town and when I was born in 1982, there was one mosque.
There's now 45.
I have watched the growth of the Islamic community.
At the same time as that grows, I've watched freedom disappear.
I've seen a two-tier policing system, a two-tier funding system.
It's kid gloves for the Islamic community and iron fists for the others.
I've seen the way the Islamic community mobilise themselves in a quite military fashion when it comes to voting or for any of their community's problems.
And I've also witnessed the problems that come with the growth of Islam and radical Islam.
Muslims who take the verses from the Quran quite literally.
Luton was named the epicentre by the CIA, the epicentre for European terrorist activity.
It was the launch pad for the fertiliser bomb plot.
It was the Muslims collected their bombs and boarded the trains in Luton for the 7-7 bombings of London.
It was the home and the head office of Al-Masradeen, which is a prescribed terrorist organisation where 60% of the Muslims in British prisons for terrorism are ex-members of this organisation.
I've grown up knowing many of those members.
I've gone to school with terrorists.
I know and I've had the experience to grow up in a town that's plagued by these problems.
So I speak about these are the problems that come with open border immigration.
My town is predominantly, it's 50 to 60 percent Muslim population.
White English, our own minority.
We're majority Pakistani who come from Kashmir.
And I speak openly and honestly about the problems that that brings.
Now, to put it basically, some of the best people I've met growing up in that town are Muslim.
That doesn't change the problems.
So when I'm speaking about the problems I speak about, I'm speaking about an idea and an ideology not every single follower of.
I separate the people from the idea.
If I was hating Muslims, it's bad.
I have a problem with the Islamic ideology that promotes oppression, promotes segregation, promotes non-assimilation, promotes supremacy, all of these problems.
I've also, and growing up in that town, I witnessed because one of my family relatives was a victim of rape gangs.
In the UK they're now called grooming gangs.
It's where large groups of predominantly Muslim men work together to isolate young girls, to drug them, to rape them, to pin them, to torture them, and in some many cases across our country to murder them.
It's not about sexual gratification, it's about destroying those girls in each of these cases.
So when I started, my first activism started in 2009.
I formed an organisation called the English Defence League.
It was after our soldiers and our military were attacked as they were parading and giving the freedom of our city.
And that was the final straw for me.
It wasn't It was everything that had happened up until that point.
I'd seen and I'd experienced continuously these problems, so I decided to speak out in 2009.
And when I decided to speak out, I set up a national organisation and it grew across the whole country like a wildfire.
And what I realised is the problems that I'd experienced and I'd seen growing up were not isolated to Lulu.
There were people like me across the whole of the UK who had been silenced.
We've been silenced with the racist tag.
People were so fearful.
Political correctness is that powerful.
People were so fearful of being branded as racist, anything to do with race.
They'd managed to silence our population.
So our population basically stood back, sat back, whilst we watch our country and our towns and cities change for the worse.
But the biggest story that come out of our organisation, when we started in 2009, I was screaming from the rooftops and we were having demonstrations across the country with thousands and at times tens of thousands on the streets.
We were holding and giving speeches where we were telling people our daughters are being kidnapped, our daughters are being raped.
Groups of men are literally sitting outside the school gates and they're taking schoolgirls away and raping them for days.
Now all of these things sounded unbelievable.
I was mocked, Roger, when I first got on British TV in front of Jeremy Paxman, who was the BBC Newsnight's main He was their main man and he mocked me and belittled me when I tried to raise these issues.
Fast forward five years of non-stop work with the English Defence League, non-stop raising awareness of these issues and the Rotherham report.
Many people in America may have heard of Rotherham.
Rotherham is a city in the north of England.
Where we were given statistics that 1,500 young non-Muslim girls were kidnapped and raped.
1,500.
In just that town.
Since then we've found out with government reports that there have been another 64 cities where these gangs have been operating.
And they've been operating with the full knowledge of the police.
And the government.
It's turned out that police knew it was happening, they knew who the men were, they knew who the victims were, but nothing was done.
The reason nothing was done?
Political correctness.
Fear of being branded racist.
British police stood by and allowed a generation of our daughters to be kidnapped, taken and raped because they didn't want to be called racist.
If anyone ever asks you what is the power of political correctness, it's that powerful that it will paralyse a country's police force and government in order to allow children to be raped.
So just say that out loud.
And when I say say it out loud, in the government report from Rotherham, We actually find out real horrific details of what had gone on.
And in Rotherham, two of the girl's fathers, their daughters were 12 and 13.
The fathers had got together.
They'd gone to the house where these Pakistani men were raping their little children.
The police turned up.
The fathers were obviously making a scene to try and get their daughters back.
The police turned up and they arrested the fathers.
They arrested the Dads.
This is not my opinion.
This is not me saying it.
This is all factual.
This is in government reports.
The police were terrified of these gangs and they literally let them make their way through our country.
And I raised this issue.
My organisation raised this issue.
We were attacked from the start in the first three months of forming that organisation.
I had three police dawn raids.
My pregnant wife was arrested.
I witnessed very early on in 2009, my bank accounts were closed back then.
So all this now, it's become, now people are talking about banks closing people due to political beliefs.
Mine were closed in 2009 from NatWest, the same company that now is talking about Nigel Farage.
I don't know if you've seen, but his bank accounts were closed.
So I started that organisation, I started that movement.
I led it up until 2015.
I then decided there were better ways to address these issues.
And I started my journalism.
And since the start of my journalism in the last eight years, at one point I think I was the most watched journalist in the world.
I had 69 million video views in four weeks, 172 million people read my tweets.
I started challenging and I got past the media.
The mainstream media can label us all, they can call us all what they want, but I bypassed them.
And I reached people through this, through their mobile phones.
I was talking to them directly, sitting in their lounges.
They were realising that what they were being told about me was lies.
I was challenging their narratives and proving false many of their allegations about me.
And my support was flying.
I got up to 1.2 million people on Facebook when I went live.
It was 30,000 people each time.
And I began waking up my country and I began bringing about a real debate on open border immigration, on Islam, on freedom of speech, on the rape of our daughters and I think I was busy.
We were waking up many to the problems we face and then the establishment chose to imprison me at times.
I've been imprisoned multiple times.
There was a famous case in 2017 where I was reporting on a grooming gang of 28 Pakistani Muslim men who had raped 100 girls And the judge ordered me to be taken from outside the court where I was doing my job as a journalist.
He brought me inside the court and within two hours I was sentenced to 13 months in prison for contempt of court.
It took 10 weeks for me to clear my name in that case.
But when I say clear my name, it took 10 weeks for me after 10 weeks of solitary confinement and they put reporting restrictions so no one could know I was in jail.
But then when America started reporting, Canada started reporting it.
Australia started reporting it.
They had to remove those conditions and then after 10 weeks when we got it before a judge, they found that everything they had done was unlawful.
At the same time as sending me to jail from outside that court, he allowed the rapists to go home.
One of those rapists, this was in 2017, he still never faced justice because he packed his suitcase and he disappeared to Pakistan.
So the government and the establishments Their sort of motive has been to try and silence me and silence people talking about this, rather than deal with the problems.
Rather than accept that their utopia idea of multiculturalism hasn't actually worked, that open border immigration brings about problems, they'd rather silence the people talking about that.
So that's a brief description to who I am.
I'm now, I'm censored, I'm deleted from everywhere.
I'm currently sitting in Spain because once again I face criticism from my journalism.
Yeah, that's a brief description, Roger.
I know I've gone off on one there, but That's who I am.
I am just a working class English lad from a town in Luton who's decided to speak up.
Extraordinarily well done.
I remember very distinctly when you were persecuted and jailed in 2017.
I learned about it from watching the Alex Jones Show.
My wife and I prayed for you.
And obviously our prayers helped because you're with us today.
You belong to a select group of freedom fighters along with Laura Loomer and a handful of others who have been relentlessly censored and persecuted because of our political beliefs.
In the time that you spent in prison, which I know was a harrowing time, you later claimed that the Islamic gangs inside have enormous influence and maybe even control.
Can you elaborate on what you experienced and saw inside the walls of prison?
They have total control.
So I've been in 10 different prisons.
I've been in 10 different UK prisons.
They are ISIS training camps.
There's nothing else that they are.
And innocent, most people who go to jail, what you end up finding out in your experiences is that most of those people have been wronged all their life.
They haven't had the opportunities that many have had.
And then they're put in prison.
And you can have car criminals or house burglars or drug addicts.
And now they're in jail.
And the largest group, the largest gang, is the Islamic radicals.
And they're converting people day in day out.
The main person in control of that Islamic group within the jail is not the imam, but it's the radical extremist who's become the imam of the wing.
If you mess with one, basically it's forced conversions.
Non-Muslims are being forced to convert.
Again, I spoke about all these things.
In 2011, I'd done five different prisons in 2011.
I was sent to five different prisons in a six-month period and when I come out I started talking saying we really need to get grip of this because some of the most hard and toughest men in our country who don't really care about law are now being converted to become radical jihadists.
The figures were, from MI5, that hundreds of would-be terrorists now are coming out of our prison system.
I actually found out exactly the same is happening in America.
And they're converting the blacks at an uncontrollable rate, just as they are in the UK.
All the young black gangs from my hometown, Where I'm born, Luton's a very diverse town where we've got lots of blacks, we've got every immigrant community can think of.
All the young black gangs and street gangs I grew up with, they're all now Islamic.
They've all become radicals.
So all the street gangs, so whoever controls the drugs, the prostitution, whoever controls the streets controls the town.
So the militant gangs, are now all becoming Islamic through the prison system.
We've seen literally the takeover of our prisons and again we end up reading these reports.
10 years later I end up reading these reports saying we told you this, we tried to warn you of this and we find out the exact same reasons.
Political correctness is given to why these gangs have not been tackled within the prison system.
They've literally been allowed to take over the prison system.
Officers are too scared to deal with them.
They don't want to be deemed racist.
And quite frankly, I think someone was beheaded in Woodhill Prison.
We've seen attacks against prison officers in would-be terrorist attacks.
And literally, they have the run of the prison.
They control everything.
Absolutely everything.
So that's a terrifying situation when you look at the vulnerability of people who end up in jail.
And absolutely nothing is being done.
And I know you have to say, what is the solution to this?
The solution is To separate Muslims and non-Muslims.
To make sure that non-Muslims are not being targeted, forcibly converted, bullied, into converting to this ideology.
That's one answer.
And also to make sure that people who are involved in jail for terrorism, They shouldn't be in jail with people who are in jail for selling drugs.
These are enemy combatants.
We are in a war.
People may seem to forget we're in a war.
If our security services hadn't stopped terrorist attacks, a bomb, a nightclub, a shopping centre, something would have been a target every month.
Every single year.
Then we'd realise we're in a war zone.
Only when they're successful, because of our intelligence services, we manage to stop many of them, imprison many of them.
But we are still in a war.
And these are enemy combatants who want to attack our nation, attack everything we hold dear, everything we care about.
They want to destroy it.
They want to enforce Sharia and take over.
That's their ideology.
If we accept we're at war, then they're enemy combatants, they should be held in prisons as such, and they should not be released.
We've just seen this this week in the UK, we've got another Muslim terrorist that our government are saying is a danger to all of us, but they can't stop him being released.
We're at war, he's a soldier and he's fighting for the other side, so do not release him and do not lay him back onto our streets and walk the streets of us and endanger every one of us.
But that's what I've seen in the prisons in the UK, Roger, and exactly the same is happening in the United States.
They are, and if you look at who's funding the conversions and the imams, so the majority of imams in British prisons are Diobandi.
Diobandi is a very conservative, radical form of Islam.
Like, why are we allowing these preachers to come into our prisons and convert en masse, which is exactly what we're seeing happen?
But yeah, we have big problems within our prison system and I've witnessed it in most You made a very powerful documentary entitled Silenced.
Let's show the trailer for that right now, if we could.
Everybody was exposing the scumbag that did this, who I hope gets severe retribution.
Clearly when somebody comes from Syria, when they get treated that way, that's an issue.
I lost my job over this.
I'm undisguised against this.
He swung the hockey stick over his head and hit me in the spine with it.
Well, I told everyone, didn't I?
Everyone is too scared to speak the truth or to come to court.
This kid was out unconscious already.
That's just malicious.
I just don't know because what yous are doing, I know what yous are doing.
If all those teachers know what's going on in that school, how come none of them are coming out Well now we know!
Now the whole world's gonna know!
Tommy, I am gonna mince your kids mate.
I've heard the truth, but I need everyone of you to know the truth.
I've watched that a couple of times.
It's extraordinarily powerful.
What is the status of that documentary today?
So Roger, this story blew up in the UK 23 years ago and it was international news.
It was a global news story.
And I began investigating that story and found out that it was a total fabrication of the truth.
That it was actually planned.
That the release of the viral video wasn't organic.
They coincided.
It was a money earner.
They were trying to get money off the British public and their sympathetic feelings.
So I investigated it and then I made a video saying, actually, to the British public, you're being lied to.
Stop donating your money because they're currently giving this Syrian refugee £160,000.
Stop donating your money.
You're not being given the full truth.
Now, what happened from that is they launched legal campaigns against me, which was a celebrity jihadi lawyer called Mohammed.
He's Shamina Begum's lawyer.
You know, the terrorist girl who's out fighting for ISIS.
They're trying to get... Basically, if you've beheaded people and you've killed in the name of Islam, then he's the lawyer for you.
Now, they took me through the courts and they said that I had to apologize and pay £50,000 and the problems would go away.
I refused to do that because what I said was true.
And then they got me in front of the court and they bankrupt me to the tune of £1.6 million.
Now, what I did at this point was I wore a covert camera and I went and investigated to prove to the British public everything I said was true.
What we found very quickly after teachers, so this was an incident in school where a young boy got a bottle of water poured over him.
We were told the young boy was targeted because he was a Syrian refugee, we were told it was racist, and we were not given any backstory.
The truth was the total opposite.
So I then made a documentary, and when I got up to the teachers' houses to question them, they all told me they'd been paid.
They've been paid not to tell the truth so they're on covert recordings admitting they were paid to the tune of £274,000 the council spent buying people's non-disclosure agreements for their council so they couldn't tell the truth about incidents that had happened.
We also found that through the school records that actually what I had said the reality was far worse with regards to the child in question.
Now when I showed all this to a judge At my court case, what the judge done was he carefully worded everything he'd seen on my recordings into an injunction.
And he told me that if any of this footage was ever released, I'd go to prison for contempt of court.
Now, I have a big problem, I have a huge problem with that anyway, but I've been terrified of prison because for me prison isn't about going and sitting in a room.
I've spent a year on solitary confinement which caused me problems, let's just say, to say the least.
It caused me problems, mentally problems, when I come out.
I struggled to integrate back into my family and things like that, which sounds mad, I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.
There was lots that went on at that time, which I believe they've intentionally done that anyway.
But for me, landing in each prison, I've literally had to fight for my life in some of those prisons.
I lost all my teeth in Woodhill Prison when I was beaten and locked in a room with Muslims.
I've had multiple violent incidents within the prison system where I come under, straight away, immense attacks.
So for me, prison is a matter of life or death.
So when I was told if I play this film, I'll go to prison.
It was the first time in my activism that I'd say I failed because I've always said if you worry about consequence you'll never bring about change.
So, I've never worried about consequences.
If I'm right, and I know I'm right, and I'm morally right, and my cause is just, I'll do whatever I need to do.
Now, coming out of court, when the judge gave me this injunction, I should have said, no, you're not taking my speech.
The world is going to see, and everyone needs to see, What's gone on?
Let the public see the truth.
But I didn't because I was fearful and I was scared of going to prison.
Now, this film was actually leaked by an American organization called Mice Media against my wishes.
They released the film.
Now, currently, because that film's gone out, there's an 80-page dossier currently sitting with my Attorney General of my government, who is waiting to make the decision on whether I'd be prosecuted and spend the next two years in prison.
Now the problem that I believe they face, and the problem that they're trying to weigh up, is if they do that, if they do that, the whole world will end up watching this film.
More numbers of millions of people that will never hear of this film or see this film.
We'll end up watching it if they imprison me for it.
If a British journalist is put in jail for two years for showing the public the truth of what went on, it's not my opinion, if you've watched the documentary, Roger, it's covert recordings of seven members of staff, it's witness statements of multiple victims, all of these things, it's just a piecing together of the evidence, and you get to see in the documentary the unholy alliance of government, media, far-left organisations, how they all conspire together and work together,
To destroy, not just silence, but to destroy anyone who gets in the way of their narratives.
And I got in the way of their narratives.
Their narrative that they wanted to push to the globe was white English racists, Syrian refugees are victims, they wanted to push their open border message and if people knew the reality then they might start questioning government policy and they didn't want to allow that.
They actually closed the entire school down.
It's an insane documentary, an insane film.
It catalogues Basically what happened to me, similar things have gone on to yourself Roger, they've gone on to Donald Trump, they're happening to Steve Bannon, they're happening across the globe to any truth tellers, any people who stand in the face of their narrative are under attack.
This documentary and this film actually captures on recording, start to finish, How they operate and this film and this message is far bigger than my story.
It's about my life.
This is one story that I covered and this is the behind the scenes and shows the lengths they'll go to to destroy and silence anyone.
But you can carbon copy their tactics and the corruption of the judiciary and the weaponisation of the judiciary and the failures of the police at the same time in this film.
You can carbon copy that for any activist in any part of the world.
Even Laura Loomer, Roger, which I was unaware of.
Laura Loomer has been silenced.
She has a gagging order that she's not legally allowed to talk to people about because she'll go to jail for contempt.
She has been hit to the tune of nearly £200,000.
And she has to pay them.
And she's left.
And this is what they do.
So with me, their goal was to financially destroy me.
And they were successful in doing that.
They bankrolled me.
They also made the separation of my family.
It resulted in the divorce, which you'll see on the film.
They hire extremists who go to my children's home and video it, and then threaten to murder them.
So my wife or ex-wife had to make a decision at that point, and it was the safety of our children.
I'm glad she made that decision.
We're still very close and good friends, but they caused the breakup of my family home.
All of these things can be catalogued across the globe to what's happening to people, but I'm currently, and I haven't been back in the UK for probably four or five months now, I don't know what's going to happen when I land in the UK.
I presume I'll be booked for a judge and placed in prison for this film.
And that's what I understand they want to do and they're trying to do.
So that's the current situation, Roger.
That's the current freedom situation.
And basically, when this happened to me, I started warning out straight away to people saying they've silenced me through many court injunctions and then they give me an injunction where I can't actually talk about things.
I've got another injunction where I can't actually name another journalist.
I was doing an investigation on the journalist because I was saying this isn't a journalist, this is an Antifa activist masquerading as a journalist whose job is to attack me.
She's wrote 260 articles about me.
It's an insane level of obsession.
They took me to court and they gave me She's wrote 260 articles about me.
I was making one documentary.
She's wrote 260 articles.
They gave me a stalking prevention order that bans me for five years from mentioning her name or showing any of the videos or any of the documentary I was making.
So I've got that one I'm not allowed to talk about.
I'm not allowed to release my footage.
And then I've got this injunction.
And then I started talking saying, well, if they're doing that here, I was looking at Project Veritas, which is now the O'Keefe Media Group, saying they're going to do the same with you.
They're going to do the same with anyone who's Bring in about change, anyone who's challenging their narratives.
And then when I sat down with Laura Loomer for a three and a half hour podcast, I found out it's already in America.
They've already got these gagging orders.
They've already done it.
And that's why I wanted it to be a warning.
As it's come out, it's a warning about the weaponisation of the judiciary, which America knows full well now.
You know personally, yourself, I'm sure your family know, with all the civil actions they're trying to bring against you, Roger.
Donald Trump certainly knows it's worrying times for everyone.
And the courts certainly have been weaponised, but that's currently...
Why I am sat here and I haven't been back to my country.
I've been essentially exiled from it but I've wanted to spend some time with my children.
I have three young children.
I've missed too many summers sitting in prison cells for my activism and I wanted to have the summer holidays with my kids.
So my kids are currently here with me.
I'm having some wonderful time with them until I go back and face the reality of Of the situation, but I think it's not me.
I am in a difficult position, but they're in a more difficult position because they can either expose to the world their corruption, or they can bite their tongues and allow me to not face prosecution for what they're claiming is a deliberate leak of a film.
Well, I stand in solidarity with you.
I obviously faced a criminal prosecution myself when I did absolutely nothing wrong until 29 heavily armed FBI agents in full SWAT gear brandishing fully automatic assault weapons storm your home at six o'clock in the morning to arrest you for the completely fabricated crime of lying to Congress under oath about Russian collusion that never actually happened.
And then I was relentlessly squeezed to offer false testimony against Donald Trump.
In other words, once they determined that there was no Russian collusion, they sought to manufacture it.
They wanted me to be their witness.
in that manufacture, which I refuse to do.
Thanks to my prayers to the Lord, President Donald Trump had the strength and the courage in an election year to commute my sentence days before I was to be taken to a dank Georgia prison where I was supposed to die. - The Biden DOJ requests a gag. President Donald Trump had the strength and the courage in an He actually gave me a full and unconditional pardon.
So I thank the Lord for that.
But you're right.
My wife and I continue to be plagued with now 11 outstanding civil harassment lawsuits.
These are designed to bankrupt you.
These are designed to destroy you financially.
And then, of course, there's the ongoing censorship.
I'm banned for life on Facebook.
I'm banned for life on Instagram simply because I was banned on Facebook and Facebook owns Instagram.
I'm banned for life on YouTube.
I have no idea why.
By the way, none of these companies notify you or tell you what cockamamie rule they allege you have violated.
But you have had it much rougher than I have.
So I have such immense respect for you.
You've done a four part series about the issue of rape in the UK.
Let's roll that trailer if we may.
Thank you.
They have not defended the children of the poor.
They are punishing the people who speak out in defence of the children of the poor.
I look at my kids daily and think, if you wasn't here, I wouldn't be here.
What happened the first time?
I slept with him.
How old was he?
I was 11, Tom.
He had sex with you when you was 11?
So he raped you?
An independent inquiry into the sexual exploitation of children in Telford and Reakin has been going on for well over two years.
The police, social services and councils are refusing to help the inquiry at all.
We are supplying them with 40 years worth of information.
40 years?
40 years worth of information.
So for 40 years children have been failed?
So for 40 years children have been failed?
A deliberate attempt to cover up these crimes against little girls for fear of being called racist.
They've known what has been going on in that town for 40 years.
They would talk to me about going to meet certain people, not to tell my dad if this told me to go to that person.
Who was the kingpin?
Who was the main organiser?
I don't want to be living this for the rest of my life.
He was that hurt by it.
He got out of the car and he couldn't wait for the police to come.
He needed to go.
Family trees, networks, how they operate, who operates with who.
Just so you understand, as we go along here, we have CPS solicitors, police officers, politicians.
That's the level of connections who are involved and intertwined within these gangs.
There are five dead females at the hands of these gangs in Telford alone.
I'm sorry for doing this.
I mean, I have to be 100% before I make an approach.
The hunters are about to become the hunt.
This is a cure.
It's come out of his house.
This is the vehicle of all of us amazing people now.
The reason why this is so important is that if you get up close, they have zooming cameras at the front, zooming cameras at the back.
I have got to be right with Jim Bayliss.
Over 200 men's names were identified by your police investigation, but only 11 were charged.
Why is that?
Did you have anything to do with the case's captain?
Okay.
We have serious allegations from children who say that you were involved in the rape and prostitution of them.
Mohammed!
Can I ask you some questions?
The Rape of Britain.
Saturday 29th January 2022.
2pm in Telford.
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Tommy, I must say you look awful darn good in a necktie.
I have a feeling it is not your usual style.
This is, again, extraordinarily powerful.
I don't want to waste any time here.
You've made claims that there are certain no-go zones in the UK, and this has been disputed by some in the fake news media.
What evidence can you share with our viewers about this issue and concept?
Issue and concept with regards to no-go zones.
There's entire ghettos now that are totally Islamic in many towns and cities.
And what people have to understand, what Americans certainly have to understand, is just how quickly, like that, all of a sudden, it's like boom!
And you may not, you do not need, in many of these states growing up, It wasn't a predominantly Muslim estate, but within 10 years, due to the birth rate, Muslims on average are having 5.6 children in the UK.
Non-Muslims are having 1.3.
The demographical change, and I'll bring it back to my hometown again, Luton Town, when I looked at the figures in 2013 when I was leading the English Defence Team, we went through local council figures and the projected growth forecast by 2030, 17 years.
The Bangladeshi and the Pakistani community were to increase by 70 to 77 percent.
70 to 70 percent.
The white and black communities by 1.2 to 1.4 percent.
The growth and the change of a town like that.
And it's never changing back.
The Islamic growth of it and the takeover of the town, you're never getting it back.
And that brings about many problems.
When we talk about Islamic no-go zones, we have Muslims who face non-Muslims, for example.
Again, I'll give you Luton.
I gave a speech at Oxford University.
You can Google it and watch Tommy Robinson, Oxford.
It'll come up on YouTube.
It's one of my only talks.
It's still on YouTube.
And I believe it's because it's with the prestigious Oxford University.
We had 55 attacks against non-Muslim residents' homes, who are families that I know.
Their houses were smashed to pieces, so much so, the Howard family, who were 80 to 88 years old, a husband and wife, don't even bother fixing their windows anymore.
They never fix their windows because they just get smashed again.
And this is because the Muslims don't want them living in their area, so they're forced to get out.
There's constant attacks against non-Muslims.
With what you've just shown, you've shown a promo for episode one for the Rape of Britain.
I've made a four-part series.
I've got another two parts to make, which I really am eager to get back to the UK and finish.
I'm just waiting to find out about this prison sentence.
But just so you understand the demographics in these towns, the documentaries I've made, Rape of Britain, you can get them all on Rumble, they are in a town called Telford.
Telford has a 1.7% Muslim population, okay?
There's three and a half thousand Muslims in Telford.
Once you take away the women, you take away the under-16s, you take away the over-70s, you're looking at a thousand.
We were looking with the figures that there were a thousand Muslim men in the town of Telford.
The police investigation identified 200 that had been involved in raping kids.
The independent inquiry has identified 360.
Our investigation, we got the names of 250 That means minimum 20% but upwards to 36% of the Muslim population of that town who are men have been raping young children.
In that town there's a thousand victims.
Four are dead, five are dead, murdered, set on fire, burned alive.
When you understand in this town some of the... and that's Telford, 1.7% Muslim population, 1,000 dead.
The other town people have had the statistics for is Rotherham.
Rotherham has a 3.7% Muslim population, There's 1,500 children been raped.
We've never been given the demographics or the figures for Bradford, 60% Muslim.
Luton, 50-60% Muslim.
Birmingham, 50% Muslim.
We've never been given the figures for any of the towns that are majority Muslim, ever.
And we never will.
And I'll tell you why.
Recently, there was a town called Oldham where there were similar gangs of attacks like this.
There was a big outcry by the public because it's been exposed.
There's a massive grooming, which is rape, jihad scandal in this town.
When it comes to the council vote to do an independent inquiry, the council which is 30% Muslim, the councillors voted against the independent inquiry.
So there is no independent inquiry.
There is no way of getting the statistics because the Muslims have become such a large number in that town that they've taken over the council.
It may have a 30% Muslim population but the majority of the councillors are then Muslim.
This is the reality.
Telford and Labour, and I use Telford to show people how bad the situation is in that town when there's no Muslims in it.
How bad do you think it is in the rest of the towns and cities?
And the reason, and we look at the reason, and the reason why I'm hated, why they don't like me, is because I want to ask why.
The statistics for the UK are 4%, 3-4% of the UK is Pakistani Muslim.
The conviction for men in these gangs who have raped, kidnapped, murdered, the convictions are 90% Muslim.
30% of the men convicted, their name is Mohammed.
Why?
That's the question I ask, why?
How come the Sikhs have not done this, the Hindus have not done this, the Jews have not done this, no one else has done this crime?
What is it That makes it acceptable that fathers and sons are raping girls together.
Brothers, brother-in-laws, cousins, families, entire groups of men who are related are taking 12-year-old children, torturing them and raping them together, whilst making religious and racial comments.
Something very, very different that any of us can comprehend is going on here.
And how do we address it?
We have to address it, we have to understand it.
How do you understand it?
We have to think how they think.
We have to understand what their mindset is.
We have to understand their culture.
We have to understand the view that's propagated by Mohammed of women.
And especially of non-Muslim women.
Now that is the path that I've took my questioning.
I've studied the Quran.
I've looked at the scripture.
There are four verses in the Quran that state clearly that Muslim men can take non-Muslim girls No one can argue with me that what's happened in Telford, Rotherham and 60 other cities in the UK, our daughters have been taken as sexual slaves.
No one can argue with that.
In fact, one of those verses actually says the men are blameless.
They're blameless.
So I try to challenge this.
I try to awaken and try to question, which you're not allowed to do.
You're not even allowed to talk about these issues.
You're not allowed to talk about Islam because you're silenced, you're attacked, you're demonised.
And if we want to stop this rape of our children, We have to understand it or you're never going to address it.
So we went in the UK from our media, called it grooming, it's not grooming, but they called them Asian gangs.
That's how it started.
When they had to, finally, after our work with the English Defence League and after shoving it in the world's face, they thought we better address this.
So they used the two cities with no Muslims to address it, yeah?
That's what they've done.
And we still were horrified by the figures, even though they're the cities with no Muslims.
But then when they addressed it, Because they've been forced to.
They blamed it on Asian gangs.
They blamed the Hindus, the Sikhs.
They blamed everyone.
And when we say Asian in the UK, Asian means Pakistanis.
It's not like how you're Asian, how you address Asians in the United States.
Asian means Pakistanis, Bangladeshis.
That's what's classed as Asians in the UK.
Now, but that includes Sikhs, Hindus.
We shifted it over a window.
We moved it.
We fought it.
They started addressing these gangs.
They called them Asian.
We then forced that and we made video after video and statement after statement to stop unfairly targeting and tarnishing the Sikh community because the Sikh community are victims of these gangs too.
The Hindu girls are victims of these gangs too.
It's not Asian men.
They're Pakistani majority and they're Muslim and in many cases they're Iraqi, they're Somali.
One of the Somalians in one of these cases actually said in court it was his religious duty to do this.
Now So Americans understand, currently, you've had open borders and you've really had Mexican immigration.
Under Joe Biden, since he took over and the 4 million or 5 million, however many are coming in now, that's changed from the mixture of Mexicans.
You've now got open border policy to Islamic immigration.
You have no idea the culture problems you're going to have.
You think there's been problems with Mexicans, yeah, and it's totally alien and there is going to be zero integration and you're going to face huge problems and these problems are going on with the rapes, the attacks and their views and derogatory views toward non-Muslims, especially our daughters and our women.
It's going to spread through your country like it's spread through mine and I say that in the sense of In Europe, in Holland, they call these gangs Loverboys.
They're Moroccan men because the majority of Muslims in Holland are Moroccan.
In France there's these gangs and they're Algerian because the majority of the gangs there are Algerian.
In the UK they're Pakistani because the majority of the Muslims in the UK are Pakistani.
What's the common denominator between all these gangs and all these men all the way across?
They're Afghani, they're Muslims, they follow Islam, okay, and then they say that and literally That's why they don't like me, because not only have we forced them to address this with embarrassed police forces across the country, we've humiliated them.
I then made a four-part series saying, well, the police identified 200 men in Telford.
They charged 11.
Well what about the rest?
And they've done this in every town and city.
So when you see on the news, rooming, and you see all these pictures of Pakistani men and Muslim men who are being prosecuted for rape, know this, it's only really 10% or 5% of the men that have been raping.
The rest of them aren't getting prosecuted.
And the reason being, we simply don't have the prison places or the money to prosecute these gangs.
And I say that because when there's issues like this, in the UK we have female genital mutilation.
Female genital mutilation is where Muslim girls are taken, their clitorises are cut off because they're not supposed to enjoy sex.
Then some of them have severe problems, mental health problems for the rest of their life.
But 55,000 British girls have had FGM.
That has been a criminal offence with a 14-year prison sentence for 20 years in this country.
Not one single parent has ever been prosecuted.
The reason being, if you've got 55,000 children, And you wanted to prosecute their parents.
You've just filled up every single prison space in the UK.
There's not enough prison spaces.
So certain cultural problems, like mutilating a young child in Britain, are ignored and accepted.
Well, the rape of our daughters, who are working class, who are from poor backgrounds, that was also accepted.
As a sacrifice for the multiculturalist altar, which is what they want to push, this utopia idea.
And the problems are real.
They are affecting families in their thousands, in their millions, probably, across our country.
And everyone wants to pretend it's not happening or silence us as radicals or extremists or racists or Islamophobes for trying to address it.
So there are no-go zones.
What happens is Islam takes over, there's actually videos you can watch of Muslims enforcing Sharia in certain parts of London and when they're enforcing these videos, so they've got video cameras and they're going up to gay people saying you're not allowed here because you're gay, this is an Islamic area, they're going up to English girls who are dressed a certain way saying you cannot dress like this in our area, get out of our area, they're enforcing Sharia.
The problem being which when I saw these videos I said, well that's when the camera's on, yeah?
What do you think it's like when they take the camera off?
People are being violently beaten, they're being kicked to a pulp, they're being attacked, this is happening across Europe, they're being murdered, they're being killed, and we're being religiously attacked.
These are religiously motivated attacks, they're racial attacks, and they're being Forced upon us by members of the Islamic community who have been welcomed into our countries by the likes of the Democrat Party or the likes of the Labour Party in the UK.
In fact, even the Conservatives in the UK are not Conservative.
They've not stopped the boats coming, they've welcomed them in, they've housed them in hotels.
We are seeing the destruction of our culture and our nation.
And that's happening for the whole of Europe.
What you're witnessing now is the destruction of Europe.
You're seeing our culture erode and it's being replaced.
We're being replaced.
Well, our fundamental form of government is the same as that of the UK.
We basically base all of our fundamental documents on the Magna Carta.
You partially answered this question, but let me pitch you a softball.
What is your message for America and Americans?
American Americans is, well, please, is my message at the minute, please, we need Donald Trump.
There's only one man that's going to stand in the way of this.
There is a plan which has all become very clear now since Covid.
What was a conspiracy is no longer a conspiracy.
There is a plan for a globalist, a global dominant world government that wishes to We see the destruction of the nation-state, the destruction of our borders.
We see anyone who speaks out against this is coming under attack.
But my plea with Americans is... I'm looking to America and looking to the 2024 election and just wondering if Americans understand what is at stake.
Because I look around my town and see we've got a thousand years of English history over here.
And it's probably at risk more than ever in our country's history, because the towns and cities are changing.
And whilst they're changing, the likes of your government or the Democrat Party or Biden or your parties will celebrate it, like it's something to be celebrated.
And this isn't changing your country for the good.
This is bringing in an oppressive ideology, an oppressive ideology that stands against everything that we have fought as people to get to the position we are in our countries, to evolve to the point we have for freedom, and it's all under attack.
So my message to Americans would be you have to, and I've watched Steve Bannon call on it, and get involved locally, get involved at school levels, get involved in all these things, What they're pushing now is so degenerate and across the West, it's become actually embarrassing for the West.
What is it we stand up for now?
Who are we?
Who are we?
And that's because you see our leaders who are so detached from us, who are pushing this degeneracy, whether it be LGBTQ+, the Alphabet Mafia, whatever it is, they're sexualising kids.
Any open border policies, bringing in alien cultures, destroying.
And I believe that all of this open border immigration has been done to destroy our resistance, to destroy our community, to destroy our nationalism, to destroy our entire fabric of our society.
And that's what it's done.
I've watched as a very close-knit working-class community is no longer close-knit because everyone's moved here, moved there, everyone's trying to escape and there isn't really resistance.
So Americans need to really understand from someone who's born in a town, who's watched the decay of that town, who understands How not just Islam operates, but the nature of Islam, the agenda of Islam, and how your leaders will bow to it.
When they become such a dominant force that they swing in elections, when I'm talking about they as in the Islamic community and followers of Islam, Your government will pander to them in every way possible.
And they're literally bringing people in who will be loyal to them.
Not loyal to America, not loyal to your flag, not loyal to your constitution.
Islam comes first, second and third.
And they're being brought in and imported into your country, just as they have in mine.
Loyalty won't lie with us.
It doesn't lie with us.
And there will be destruction brought onto your streets.
And yeah, just a warning to America is to really learn from Europe.
I've just looked at the figures for Poland.
I've been looking at Poland today.
So Poland has looked at the rest of Europe and seen the problems that we face.
They've just imported 200,000 Muslims last year.
But they're saying we won't.
I'm thinking, like, can you not see that this doesn't actually work?
The two cultures aren't working together and you're wishing to add to the problem across Europe, you're forcing it in Ireland.
So yeah, my warning to America is it will change so quick, so fast.
You'll lose your identity, you'll lose your culture.
And whilst you're doing that, your political leaders will be celebrating it.
Celebrating it and cheering the destruction of your nation because that is the... I see that there's been an attack on America since Joe Biden took over.
I see that this is all being done on purpose.
They want to weaken the West.
They don't want America to be the strong man that it was.
You'll be replaced by China.
Be replaced by... that's what I see.
So yeah, we need a strong America and the only way you're going to get a strong America is with Donald Trump.
And the world needs that, not just America, we need that.
We need someone that's going to put a fog in the way of their globalist machine and actually challenge the war machine, challenge the lies about Ukraine that we're seeing.
We'll be humping and taking all our taxpayer money to launder it for Ukraine.
There's so much going on but I think that what's really set home for me is that All of these jigsaw pieces come together.
Whether it be BLM, COVID, mass immigration, transgenderism, LGBTQ+, the attack on Christianity, it's all one part of one huge plan.
And that plan is pretty successful at the minute.
And we really need to resist it.
And the problem is, how can you resist it when you can't reach the masses?
How can you resist it when you can't talk about it?
How can you resist it?
So if Donald Trump does win the election, he's got to come down on them like a ton of bricks.
No more sitting on the fence.
No more Mr. Nice Guy.
I actually think that he should have come down on social media and big tech like a ton of bricks when he won the first election, and that he's seen now the danger of it.
We're not even like Laura Loomer, like yourself.
We're labelled as dangerous people.
Dangerous people because we're warning about the consequences of your policies.
Real consequences.
You know, rape, murder, destruction, terrorism.
They're real.
It's not Islamophobic.
A phobia is an irrational fear.
Everything we're saying is quite rational.
And we want to preserve and protect our country and the future for our children.
That's safe.
And no one can look me in the face and tell me that we're safer now than we were last year, 10 years.
We're going in a very bad path.
They want total control.
And I think immigration has been used as a weapon against all of us.
Ladies and gentlemen, freedom isn't free.
It comes only with sacrifice.
Very few people have sacrificed like Tommy Robinson.
Tommy, I thank you for joining us today on The Stone Zone.
God bless you.
May you have safe passage to your homeland.
Our prayers are with you.
Thanks for being here.
It's been a privilege, Roger, and I hope to one day get to meet you in person and shake your hand.
I hope to one day get to the United States.
We could even hoist a few.
God bless you, my brother.
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