Mel K & Roger Stone | Turning Point Action Conference | 7-22-23
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- Hello, it's Mel K.
We are at Turning Point and we are with my good friend, How are you doing?
Mel K, it's always great to be with you.
It's always great to be with you.
Now let's talk a little bit.
You spoke today and you really, the whole house was going crazy.
Let's tell the audience a little bit what you spoke about and what is inspiring you right now.
Well, first of all, I had to pay homage to Jesus Christ because without my faith in Jesus, I would not be here today.
I mean, the deep state marked me for annihilation.
I had two choices, testify against Donald Trump falsely or die in a dank Georgia prison.
Those are the choices that were left to me and I refused to take either one.
And, you know, my faith sustained me, and I believe it gave Donald Trump the courage and the strength in a presidential year to give me a commutation of sentence and then a full pardon.
But here's the thing, Mel.
Go look up the pardon online.
You can barely find it.
It's like it's buried, like it never actually happened.
So I talked a little bit about that.
Great.
But I also talked about the fact that it's becoming abundantly clear.
I mean, when CBS and the New York Times start accurately reporting about the crimes of the Biden crime family and the epic crimes of Hunter, including extortion, money laundering, bribery, illegal lobbying, influence peddling, Treason.
Right.
You know, it's only a matter of time.
Joe is more and more vacant.
These are the long pauses where he seems to, like, wift out into the atmosphere.
I don't think he'll be around by the end of the summer, to be honest with you.
And I'm the first one to say this.
The Democrats know Kamala Harris cannot win a general election.
No.
She can barely put together a coherent sentence.
And she's not senile.
She's just dumb.
Therefore, I still believe that they will turn to the strongest possible candidate they can nominate, and that is Michelle Obama.
I agree 100%.
Now, they could not have a white male as their nominee, but they could let him be vice president, but they're going to make him buy it.
He's going to have to come up with, you know, $800 million, whatever, and he'll extort all the special interests in California to raise whatever the ticket needs.
But you're going to have a Michelle Obama, Gavin Newsom ticket.
I bet my life on it.
I agree.
And as I said on my show today, remember you heard it from me first because three weeks from now when Steve Bannon says it, it will not be an original idea.
No, it won't.
And you and I are both friends with Joel Gilbert, who I just had on as well, and he goes through all the different reasons why.
And right now she's on some kind of publicity tour in Europe that people don't even know about here.
Yeah.
And she's speaking at the DNC convention in Chicago.
There are many signs, but if people don't start looking at that and it hits us, like broadsides us out of nowhere.
And she comes out pretending that she's not a political being.
She's just a mom who's trying to save America.
We really have to tell the truth because what just happened with affirmative action is that they came out with the affirmative action.
I believe rightly so.
It is unconstitutional.
It is also against the Civil Rights 1964 ruling.
But Michelle Obama comes out saying that from how she grew up on the South Side, they're recreating her history.
And people need to know that is not who Michelle Obama is.
She's a child of privilege.
She loves couture.
Right, exactly.
She's a very high liver.
She worked in various Democratic administrations in the city of Chicago.
She's like Hillary.
She puts on a fake accent.
She dresses down to try to make you believe that she's some ghetto kid.
She's not that person at all.
She's very clever though.
They're very smart.
They have unlimited money.
Given the enormous house they built in Martha's Vineyard right on the water, they must not be very confident about this whole climate change thing, right?
Yeah, you know, it's just amazing how many times they'll try to pull this.
Because I think what we're dealing with right now also is that most people feel like the left and right, Republican and Democrat, is a total fraud.
That we are dealing with two conglomerates that raise a lot of money and they just throw the ball back and forth and the American people are being totally left out.
I don't think people feel like they're represented at all and I think it's actually helping Donald Trump.
The more they go after him, the more people are thinking, well, Why not me?
You know, that we're all the same.
It's actually a little worse for the political establishment than that because you have two challenges now.
You have Trump challenging the orthodoxy of the Republican Party.
You have Robert Kennedy challenging the orthodoxy of the Democratic Party.
And somewhere, perhaps, they meet in the middle.
Now, I don't agree with Robert Kennedy on everything.
I don't like his position on life.
He seems to believe in climate change, but he wants to seal our southern border.
A Democrat who wants to seal the border, that's unheard of.
He really questions the safety and effectiveness of these vaccinations.
And he's against the war in Ukraine.
He wants to end it quickly before it morphs into World War III.
So I think at the end of the day, unfortunately, the Democratic machine controlled by the Obamas will kneecap him.
Me too.
But there's going to be many, many angry Democrats and Independents who are drawn to his candidacy, and I think they will inure to the ultimate benefit of Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, the Republican establishment is trying to undermine Trump at every turn.
I know it.
So I think that despite my own sentimental attachment to the old Republican Party of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and Donald Trump, Both parties are in it together.
There's a two-party duopoly at the top level.
They don't care about the voters.
They don't care about the people.
They care about their own comfort, their own wealth, and their own power over our lives.
It's all they care about.
Yeah, and you know, you've been doing this a long time.
I see a lot of division on the right, and it's manufactured.
It doesn't seem organic to me.
It seems like there's a lot of different Well, I don't know that we're really that divided.
Only the right.
We need to unite somehow.
And what do you see with that?
Because it's disturbing.
Because do they not understand divided we fall and that the other side is not divided at all?
Well, I don't know that we're really that divided.
In other words, I think that Donald Trump and the America First agenda are so completely dominant on the American right.
All these other candidates for president.
First of all, several of them are running for vice president.
And that's fine.
Those are the ones who don't criticize Donald Trump, right?
Or who are not nasty in their criticism.
And then you have Chris Christie.
I think he should run.
Not for president, I think he should just run.
Most people would agree with that.
But yeah, I mean, it does seem that way.
Honestly, I do believe that they are going to continue indicting Trump.
I think that they are not going to stop.
And I think that it keeps helping him because I saw a meme that it said, if Donald Trump wins again, it's going to be a revenge presidency.
And I'm thinking, great.
We need some revenge.
No, yesterday, as you marked yesterday, he said we were going to have a we're going to have a truth and reconciliation commission appointed as president.
I'm thinking myself, wow, excellent.
Maybe they need a chairman.
I'm available.
Well, you've been watching it from the inside out.
Well, Roger Stone, what do you think people should be focusing on?
There's a lot of distraction.
You're being pointed in many directions.
It seems to me all of the cable news channels are, you know, on their own, have their own agendas.
What should the American people really be looking at?
First of all, you can't get turned off and just walk away from it.
So I find people that I meet who agree with me say, you know what, I'm just not getting involved anymore.
I'm not going to vote.
I don't really want to be involved.
The whole system's so rotten.
It stinks so bad.
You can't do that.
You cannot give up on America.
You have to stay involved.
You've got to go to the school board meetings.
You've got to go to the county commission meetings.
You've got to consider running yourself.
If there's somebody in the party you don't think is doing a good job, then you've got to challenge them if you think you can do a better job.
Our good friend General Flynn, I think, has been really strong on this.
Oh, yeah.
So you can't turn off and tune out and drop out.
You can't do that.
Right.
That's number one.
We do need to use the tools that we do have.
This podcast is a perfect example.
In other words, there are hundreds of thousands of people who are going to see this, and we don't have all social media.
In other words, I'm still banned on Facebook for life, still banned on Instagram for life, still banned on YouTube for life, still banned on TikTok.
Well, I don't care much about that.
But the point is, they don't even give you a reason why you're banned.
You're banned because I'm the most dangerous person in all of America.
Can you imagine?
So I am on Truth Social, and I am on Twitter, and I like it.
And I try to do as much truth-telling there as I possibly can.
And you do, and that's all we can do.
Because I believe the truth is on our side, and you and I both believe that God is in control.
This is good versus evil.
It's a spiritual battle.
You say it all the time.
Any last words for the people out there?
Because a lot of people listen to Roger Snow.
I think this is it.
Just never quit, never give up on America.
Our greatest days still lie ahead and we will be victorious because God never loses.
Never.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, Zach.
Appreciate it.
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