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The Future of the GOP and the Free World w/ Gavin Wax
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with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, - Stone has become a pop culture icon And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome.
I'm Roger Stone, and you are about to enter the Stone Zone.
In breaking news only hours ago, I received yet another threatening letter from Hunter Biden's attorneys.
Previously, high-priced and high-powered attorney Abby Lowell had written me to advise me to preserve all documents or data regarding Hunter Biden's laptop.
In this particular case, that would consist entirely of news stories that I had read because I have no knowledge or involvement other than what I've read in the New York Post Or in Breitbart News about the manner in which Hunter Biden's laptop information became public.
Everything I know, I read mostly in the New York Post.
Any claim that I had possession of or involved in that process would be categorically false and without foundation.
A lawsuit on that basis would be frivolous and a lawyer who filed it would be Subject to sanctions.
This is an obvious attempt to having a chilling effect on my free speech rights, but also an attempt to divert attention from the actual content of the disclosures to the question of how they became publicly available.
The new letter advises me that I am to cease and desist Any discussion of the content of the website, of the laptop.
I'm not going to go into it any further, but everything I know, I learned in this extraordinarily detailed report, which I got from MarcoPoloUSA.com, a foundation set up for the purpose of disclosing all of this information publicly.
To the very best of my knowledge, this is genuine, it is authentic, and it documents virtually everything that has been said publicly about Hunter Biden.
Hunter Biden is a public figure under the New York Times versus Sullivan decision.
People are allowed to comment on his activities.
And we've gone from, it isn't my laptop, to the accuracy of what has been published is incorrect, to you can't talk about what was in the laptop.
Perhaps they think I won't fight for my free speech rights.
I'm going to comment more on their latest letter until my lawyers had a bit more time to review it.
Other than to say, people who want to help me in this fight with those who would stifle any discussion of Hunter Biden's laptop can go to StoneDefenseFund.com.
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There you see it one more time.
Very recently, I had the high privilege of being invited to be the main speaker at a martini mixer of the New York Young Republican Club in Manhattan, New York.
The New York Young Republican Club is the oldest, largest, and frankly, the most vibrant Young Republican Club in the United States.
I am myself a former Young Republican National Chairman from 1977 to 1979.
from 1977 to 1979.
It was in 1977 that former President Richard Nixon invited me to visit him in San Clemente, thus beginning a deep friendship in which I would come to work for the former president, vetting invitations, sending messages, and otherwise doing political chores.
The New York Young Republican Club boasts former membership by New York Governor Tom Dewey, the 1944, And 1948 Republican nominee for president, former Attorney General Herbert Brownell, former Congressman and Mayor John Lindsay, when he was a Republican.
former Vice President Richard Nixon, who was an associate member while practicing law in New York, Louis Lefkowitz, the former Attorney General of New York, and a number of other luminaries.
Joining us now is the chairman of the New York Young Republican Club, my good friend Gavin Wax.
Thank you for having me, Roger, and thank you for that fantastic introduction into the club's history and our many famous alumni.
So I'm reading here from Politico Playbook today, but they're quoting the New York Times.
It says, the new GOP, the New York Young Republican Club is a separate group from the state GOP, but it is a growing center of MAGA energy, siphoning attention from the Republican establishment.
The New York Times, Jesse McKinley and Maggie Haberman report, Gavin Wax's group takes a more bellicose, I would argue with that word, approach and throws parties where Roger Stone pours martinis.
But Republicans in the state are divided over how best to capitalize on their strong performance last year.
I've got a short video here of the unbelievable party that you threw last Friday night.
Folks, it was wall-to-wall energy.
A very young, exuberant, excited crowd of people.
It was completely and totally sold out.
We're also grateful to Gigi's Restaurant in Little Italy for stepping in to be the sponsor.
Let's run that video.
It is only because of my high regard for the incredible New York Republican Club, the Then I would take my life in my hands to be here tonight.
First of all, I want to pay homage to the club itself, which as you may know, and I'm a former Young Republican National Chairman from 1977 to 1979.
And the New York Young Republican Club is not only the oldest, largest, but most importantly, the most vibrant and the most active in the nation.
This is, of course, the club of Governor Thomas E. Dewey, Governor Nelson Rockefeller, Attorney General Herbert Brownell, Richard M. Nixon, John Lindsay, before he switched and became a Democrat, and so many other great Americans.
But I particularly want to pay homage to your chairman, Who is a spitfire, a warrior, a comrade in arms, Gavin Wax.
And also, having just read a great article in New York Magazine, wanted to pay tribute to a guy who has the exact same political philosophy that I do, Vish Burra.
A warrior.
We have the same slogan.
We don't give a fuck.
This is like an oasis of common sense and decency in an ocean of insanity.
The number of death threats I received this week has been off the charts.
My wife and my daughter both suggested that I cancel, but I could not do that to the club, could not do that to you, and I'm really honored to be with you.
I have not seen the kind of vituperation and united attack of the UNA party since, well, since they took Nixon down in Watergate or since the so-called Russian collusion hoax.
Now, unfortunately, I have to say this, but I must.
I was not there on January 6th.
I didn't go to the Ellipse.
I didn't march to the Capitol.
I wasn't at the Capitol.
And any claim, assertion, inference that I knew in advance about Participated in or condoned any illegal act on January 6th or any other date is categorically false, but one would not know that from watching ABC News or CNN.
I'll be very candid.
I don't get my news from CNN for the same reason I don't drink out of the toilet.
There you go.
A little bit of energy.
We have to bleep that F word when we put this back up.
But let me go to the chairman of the club, to whom I paid my respects, Gordon Wax.
Gordon, how do you organize the most exciting, the fastest growing, the most active young Republican club in the country In Manhattan, New York City, which is, of course, a citadel of liberalism.
Well, Roger, when we first took over the club, this storied institution was on its last legs.
We maybe had 50 members, very little money in the bank accounts, and all we had was this glorious past that was long becoming a distant memory.
We took it over.
We were told not to embrace Trump, not to embrace MAGA, Not to embrace the right, because if we did so in a place like New York City, we would be left behind and we would only suffer further.
We did the exact opposite of that advice.
We embraced Trump fully.
We embraced the MAGA movement.
We professionalized.
And we have turned this organization from what was once an almost paper organization into a $750,000 a year organization that's run entirely by volunteers.
You were a guest of honor at this past year's annual gala.
You saw for yourself almost 600 people, a black-tie fair in the heart of New York City.
We have turned this into a real political institution with a vibrant speaker series, with large socials like the one that you hosted, along with our political activities where we have seen many members of our club get elected to higher office, including the City Council, the State Assembly, the State Senate, and even Congress.
So we are revitalizing this important historical institution for the Republican Party, and we are turning it once again into a force to be reckoned with, and I attribute that largely to our ideological commitment that we are offering a counter-narrative to the left, we're not accepting their frame, we're pushing back, and also that we're bringing some fun into the party, that we're not simply gimme gimme gimme, we are providing an outlet for people to socialize, to network,
To meet friends, and then from there we can turn them into political weapons and foot soldiers in the fight against the left here in New York City and across the metropolitan area.
But this really has been part ideological, part professionalization, and we have much more room to grow.
We recently secured a clubhouse about two years ago for the first time since Nelson Rockefeller commemorated the old clubhouse that was unfortunately lost.
But we are certainly moving up New York State was certainly the scene of some of the greatest gains by the Republican Party in the last election.
Lee Zeldin, a congressman from Long Island, ran an underfunded but exuberant campaign, did extraordinarily well despite being outspent overwhelmingly.
And the natural cycle that you see in these northeastern states, New York, New Jersey, hopefully someday Connecticut, is that after liberal policies destroy the quality of life in those places, with rising crime, confiscatory tax rates and tax systems, and epic drug addiction, you and the city, frankly, and epic drug addiction, you and the city, frankly, is filthy.
It's filthy and it smells.
It's the sad truth.
The New York City that I lived in just a few years ago was a relatively safe place to be.
It was made safe by Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
It was kept safe by Mayor Bloomberg.
Who was first elected as a Republican, then subsequently reelected as an Independent.
He would ultimately become a Democrat, but his presidential campaign would not get very far.
Now, former Republican State Chairman Ed Cox, who is a friend of mine and for whom I have a very high regard, happens also to be a son-in-law of former President Richard Nixon.
Has recently been elected again to the state chairmanship of the Republican Party.
And I think some in the media would try to paint a picture of dissension.
I don't believe that that's accurate.
I think it is the failure of the Democrats in New York State that opened the opportunity for the Republican Party across the board.
What say you?
Well, I fully agree with those sentiments, which I know you also expressed to the failing New York Times in a recent piece that they published on the event.
I do believe that New York is very cyclical.
The state is cyclical.
The city is very cyclical.
And with this one-party Democrat rule, we eventually hit rock bottom.
We see rising crime.
We see economic destitution.
We see the quality of life decrease rapidly.
And then once we hit rock bottom, it paves the way for individuals such as the former mayor, Rudy Giuliani, the former governor, George Pataki, and many others to come in.
And I think Republicans in this state can take advantage of this sad but real cyclical nature in how our body politic moves in the Empire State.
And I see this past election cycle as a positive sign.
Hearing almost 47% of the statewide vote in a place like New York is an incredible feat, and I think it's something that we can build on.
I see a lot of political trends and currents and realignment happening here in the Empire State.
We are seeing new coalitions form that I think will form the basis of a broader emerging populist majority across the country.
It's no accident that it is a man from the Outer Boroughs, President Donald J. Trump, That emerged from this city and has now created a political movement in his name.
I think New York serves as the avant-garde of any future political movement and I see there are some beginning.
We're going to beginning to see some movements with a new political realignment in the city and state and if the Republican Party here can take advantage of that it could pave the way towards a governing majority and turning the state around and making it a place that people not only want to but raise a family in and start a business in, which sadly has not been the case for many,
many years under the one party rule of the corrupt Democrat machine in the state. - If you analyze the results of the last election and you do so on a very specific many years under the one party rule of the corrupt Democrat machine in the state. - If you analyze the results of the last election and you do so on Among Hispanic voters, among Asian voters, among younger voters.
This doesn't get reflected, of course, when you just look at the gross numbers.
Later in the show, Orlando Avendano will join us from Americano Media to talk about the growing shift of Hispanics towards the Republican Party, just as a generic philosophy.
But one of the things you touched on, I think, is Very important.
And that is, in the past, the Young Republicans has been a proving ground, a training ground, for the candidates of tomorrow.
And therefore, I think a large number of your members have run or are running or are thinking about running for the City Council, for the State Assembly, even for Congress.
Talk to me about that.
Absolutely.
We definitely want to turn our club into a sort of political machine, a mini-Tammany Hall.
We are looking to get Republicans, conservative populist Republicans, particularly young conservative populist Republicans, elected to office in the City Council, in the State Assembly, in the State Senate, and then help staff those offices and create a sort of feeder system of young Republican talent that can move up the ranks of the party apparatus, that can learn All the ins and outs of government and the system and the political machinations, either in City Hall or up in Albany.
And this talent formation is critical, not just for the city and the state, but for the country as a whole.
We need young, ambitious, and energetic talent to staff the administration of state, maybe one day entering into the future Trump administration as well.
So we see our club as a vital Part of that process.
We've launched several initiatives to do just that.
We have successfully helped elect Republicans to the City Council, which now has its largest Republican delegation, I believe, in decades, if not a generation.
And we are staffing those offices currently.
So in addition to the fun, the parties, and all the glamour that we like to throw, we also get our hands dirty and we get into the political arena and we help pave the way for future electoral victories.
And staffing of those offices following those victories.
So this is a part of our programming and our activities and our general mission.
And we are effectuating on that deep behind enemy lines in the belly of the beast, New York City.
And we are we are seeing success.
And I see I see a lot of success and ground to gain in the outer boroughs where I see Republicans doing much, much better, particularly among the groups that you named.
Working class Hispanics, the Asian community, white ethnics, the old white ethnic bloc.
There is a populist coalition that could be formed in the outer boroughs that can really start to effectuate some political change.
And the City Council offices are extremely important, extremely vital.
They control millions in funds, and they basically operate like an executive in their own little district.
So even though we don't control a governing majority on the Council, we still have a lot of power and sway with the City Council offices.
And we're looking to expand on that this year, which is an election year here in New York City.
So hopefully we can increase the size of our Republican delegation in the City Council.
Now, Gavin, I know that you personally support the renomination of President Donald Trump.
I don't believe the club has yet taken a formal position.
It's very, very early in the contest.
So this is a more political and a personal question.
What is the level of the former president's support, not only among club members, but among New York Republicans?
And do you see inroads, for example, by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis?
Well, Mr. Stone, I will point out one correction.
The club has formally endorsed President Donald J. Trump.
We endorsed him a few hours before his formal announcement.
And at our clubhouse in Midtown, we are very proud to have a framed Signed letter from the President thanking us for his endorsement.
But I will say that our club stands firmly behind President Donald J. Trump.
We are the largest young Republican club in the country, probably one of the largest Republican clubs in the country based on membership alone.
We have over 1,200 dues-paying members on an annual basis.
And we recently conducted some sort of, you know, just Just a quick poll of some of our events, and overwhelmingly the club stands behind Trump.
I'm not going to dispute that there may be a small faction behind DeSantis, but what I think is interesting is that those that support DeSantis support him because they think he could be a more effective Trump.
They think that he can take all the good things about Trump and his policies, but just be more effective in implementing it.
So there is, no matter which way you slice it, you're either pro-Trump or you're pro-Trump but with someone else.
And I've written extensively on this.
I don't think that someone else could really exist.
And I think Trump is our only viable option to turn this country around and save our republic.
But the club stands firmly behind him.
The vast majority of the membership stand behind him.
And as far as New York, which is a very large state in the primary process, as you know, it's not a winner take all state.
I think this is going to be, even though it comes a little bit later in the cycle, I think it's going to be a very strategic state for Trump.
I think he's going to do extraordinarily well here, particularly in New York City and the suburbs and of course upstate.
And I think he's going to a very wide margin like he did back in 2016.
And we are hope we are going to be part of that process.
Helping his campaign on the ground to get these victories here in New York State.
And as far as DeSantis is concerned, while he may have some more support, I think he peaked too early.
And I think we're starting to see Trump run away with it in terms of a lot of the polls, the favorability, the state-level polls as well as the national polls.
So it looks like this is Trump's to lose, and I think DeSantis would be wise to reevaluate his political decision making because this will not be a fight that he will win and it could very well jeopardize his future political ambitions, which we know are very high on his list.
So we're all behind Trump and we're looking forward to a huge Trump victory to come. - I stand corrected.
I was unaware that the club had formally endorsed President Trump's renomination.
I commend you for it.
Delegates are elected by congressional district in the primaries in New York.
You're absolutely right about that.
I ran that process for Ronald Reagan in both 1980 and 1984.
It's an arcane process, but it remains intact.
Today being St.
Patrick's Day.
What are the plans of the New York Young Republican Club, and are tickets still available?
Well, it was a struggle just to get back to my apartment.
I was on the wrong side of 5th, so I thought I was going to be late for this show.
So it is quite a scene here in New York City, but the club is throwing a St.
Paddy's Day bash at a pub in Midtown East.
We are donating a large portion of the revenues to charity, but we are looking forward to having a great social occasion there with many members of the club.
It's just how we normally operate.
We do several events per month, even though our last event with yourself was such a big success and it took a lot of work, whereas we're still moving strong to throw another event within a week later.
So we are gonna be doing a lot of reveling for St. Patrick's Day.
We obviously have a large Irish-American contingency in the club and we're very proud of that.
This event will be in partnership with our Catholic Caucus.
We have many caucuses and we've been sort of on the forefront of forming these constituency group caucuses.
We have a Black Caucus, a Hispanic Caucus, Asian Caucus, and a Catholic Caucus.
all the first of their kind, I believe, in the New York Republican political scene, even in some cases on the national level.
And they've been doing great work engaging different constituencies here in the city and the metropolitan area to grow the party among different groups of voters and to politicize them and weaponize them in a way.
So part of that will be our party.
And then we'll be also door knocking this weekend for a city councilwoman, getting her petition signatures that she needs to get on the ballot.
So we don't miss a beat with all the activities that we are engaged in.
All right.
The most important question.
If somebody out there wants to join the New York Young Republican Club, where should they go?
Well, thank you for this, Mr. Stone.
You can follow the club at NYYRC.
That's across all social media, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc.
And to formally join the club, Uh, you can head over to our website, nyyrc.com.
If you live in the metropolitan area of New York City and you are 40 years and younger, between 18 and 40, you can join for as little as $75 a year.
If you live outside of the metropolitan area, Or you are over 40 years of age, you can join as an associate member.
Like you mentioned earlier, the great President Richard Nixon was an associate member of the club.
I'm very proud of that fact.
So we welcome everyone to join the largest and oldest young Republican club in the country.
We are keeping up the fight here in deep blue New York and we welcome any and all support from our friends and patriots across the country.
And folks, if you're too old to be a member and you live too far away and don't want to be an associate member, you're more than welcome to send a contribution.
I guarantee you your money will be put to good use.
Thanks, Gavin Wax, chairman of the oldest, largest, and most vibrant and active young Republican club in America today for joining us today on The Stone Zone.
Thank you.
Thanks again for your invitation last week.
It was one of the best parties I've ever been to.
You and I together, I think we mixed and poured well over 200 martinis.
Very dry, I might add.
The Daily Beast said we were pouring margaritas.
Can you imagine that?
I've never drank a margarita in my life.
And then they also said they were room temperature.
Sorry, they were ice cold.
And I had a lot of compliments on our joint martini making skills.
It was a great party.
Many thanks.
Thank you, Mr. Stone.
It was great to be on, and it was a great party indeed, and the Nixon Martini was fantastic as a non-martini drinker, so the fake news does it again.
What can we expect?
Exactly.
Many, many thanks.
Folks, that was Gavin Wax, Chairman of the New York Young Republican Club.
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Sorry if my Spanish is not that great.
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Thank you for joining us on The Stone Zone.
No, Royer, thank you for inviting me.
I've always been a fan.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
If you look at the trends in the most recent election, in places like Florida, Nevada, Arizona, Texas, even California, there was a major perceptible shift among Hispanic voters to the Republican Party.
This was not just a shift among Cuban Americans who have some history of being more pro-Republican, but this was a shift among all Hispanic voters, including Puerto Rican Americans, Mexican Americans, and others.
The thing I found most interesting in studying some of the post-election polling is that those Hispanic American voters who moved to the Republican Party are getting most of their
News, even though they are Spanish speakers, from English language media, while those who are still getting their media in Spanish language media, notably Univision, which is owned by Televisa, Telemundo, which is owned by NBC, and of course Televisa itself, We're less likely to move to the Republican Party.
To what do you attribute this?
Yeah, well, first of all, no one in America understands socialist regimes as the Hispanic community does.
You know, most Hispanics currently in the U.S.
flag their country looking for freedom.
America used to be a beacon of hope and freedom, but unfortunately, the Democratic Party is destroying all of that.
It's destroying freedom of speech.
It's destroying economic freedom.
It's even destroying the ideas of the founding fathers.
It's even destroying the status of the founding fathers.
And, you know, the Hispanic community knows that.
That's obvious for all of us, but that's mainly obvious for the Hispanic community.
You know, what's going on?
That the Democratic Party always took for granted that the Hispanic community will vote for them, will be there for them, you know?
Even though, you know, they disrespect or say or do any stupid politics, you know, towards the Hispanics.
That has changed.
That's identity politics.
And that, as you know, Roger, that's BS.
So, you know, the Hispanic knows that the Democratic Party is leading this country towards a wrong direction.
The direction of the country that Hispanics left.
And that's the reason why most Hispanics right now are rejecting the Democratic Party and are approaching the Republican Party.
What do you think the attitude towards Hispanic voters in the United States is to what appears currently To be our policy of open borders.
Some have tried to depict the Republican Party as anti-immigrant when that's not true.
We're anti-illegal immigration.
There's a real difference.
How do you think this impacts Hispanic voters?
Yeah, I believe that the Hispanic population are one of the, you know, the demographic groups in the U.S.
that care more about you know, strong borders and legal immigration because they know, you know, they have even lived, you know, how this country works, how is the system, how it should be and how the law should be respected.
So, you know, right now I believe, you know, that the way the Democratic Party has treated the crisis in the border has, you know, impacted in a negative way the Hispanic communities, you know, mainly in the stakes like Texas, et cetera.
So, you know, you see how, you know, in Florida, which Ron DeSanti has, or many Republicans in many states has, you know, adopted a strong position towards the crisis in the border.
They received an amazing support from the Hispanic community.
And, you know, that's because Hispanics understand the system and understand how, you know, the law should be applied.
Because, again, in the countries hispanic left left no flat front they know what you know what is the consequence of a destroying a weak you know a state of law uh if one looks um beyond uh partisanship and examines hispanic voters across the board they are overwhelmingly likely to be catholic
they are with the exception of younger uh woman hispanic voters they are more likely to be pro-life uh they They have a strong work ethic.
They're very strongly pro-free enterprise, pro-capitalism.
They also seem to be impacted by rising crime in their own communities.
It would seem to me That there is here a potential for the kind of political realignment that happened among African Americans in the United States between the Civil War and actually began in 1932.
So from the Civil War until 1932, African Americans were the largest and the most reliable block of Republican voters.
This, of course, had to do with the historic role of the Republican Party as the anti-slavery party, the party of the Emancipation Proclamation.
And then it was not until 1932 in the Great Depression and the government programs to help struggling Americans, particularly Hispanics, that you had a sea change, a real alignment, and Hispanics Black, pardon me, African Americans became more reliably, in fact completely reliably, Democratic voters.
The Democratic Party's embrace of civil rights, the Republican Party's rejection of its more historical role as a civil rights party hastened that realignment.
Now what I see is a potential realignment among Hispanic voters, but in the other direction.
Let's be very clear.
In the last elections, the 2020 elections, the majority of Hispanic voters still voted traditionally and habitually Democratic.
But it is the substantial inroads that Republicans made in As I said, Texas, Nevada, particularly Florida, Arizona, and other states that I think are the harbinger of this coming realignment.
I guess my question is, do you see the same potential realignment that I see?
Absolutely.
You know, Roger, as Reagan said, Hispanics are conservative, they just don't know it.
You know, what happened is that, you know, the media establishment behaves just as the political establishment or the intellectual establishment.
You know, right now the Democratic Party, as you know, is kidnapped by these extreme politicians, progressive politicians, all this woke idea that definitely goes against, you know, what the Hispanic community and, you know, the rational people believe in, you know, their principles, their ideas, their values.
So, of course, that all this world revolution has had an impact in that direction.
But also, you know, as I was saying that the media establishment behaves of the political establishment, it has to be with the idea that they also believe in this identity politics idea.
And, you know, the media establishment like Univision, Telemundo, etc.
You know, they took for granted, I believe that they still take for granted, that, you know, if you're a Hispanic, you should vote this way, you should think this way, or you should watch this TV show or whatever, you know?
And that's not true, you know?
That's not how the world works.
That's not how real life works.
So that's changing right now.
So I'm very interested in what's happening at Americano Media.
Americano Media It is not a conservative media company.
It is a truth-based media company.
If you want to call Americano a conservative media company, well then I guess you have to call Telemundo a left-wing media company.
What I've heard at Radio Libre 790 in Miami, which is an Americano property, has been kind of straight ahead, truth-based, balanced political opinion and reporting.
I think that's all it really takes to hasten this realignment.
So, tell us what's happening at Americano Media.
Absolutely.
It's just what you said.
No one in America is doing what Americano media is doing, which is not presenting biased information, biased information from the right, biased information opposite to the left, or conservative or Republican point of views.
No, we're just presenting fact-based information, which is an alternative.
You know, it's what no one is doing right now for the Hispanic community.
And that is what American media is doing.
Why?
It's not because we're conservative or we're right-wing or, you know, whatever.
No, it's because we believe in freedom.
You know, we believe in values and the values that made this country So great and you know that are being destroyed right now.
We believe in freedom of speech in free markets.
We believe in debate.
We believe in different point of views.
We want to present to the audience different point of views because that's the idea.
That is not what the mainstream media is doing.
And that is what we are right now doing.
So I want to stress this, you know, we believe in freedom of speech and we want to end freedom of speech imbalance right now in the media.
Why do we live so much in freedom of speech?
Because a republic like America depends on it.
Alexis de Tocqueville, when he came to the US, when he came here, he saw, he was amazed by freedom of speech.
You know, and he realized then that a country that doesn't protect its freedom of speech will eventually end up becoming a dictatorship.
What's happening right now?
If you say something that the mob doesn't like, they will destroy you.
They will cancel you.
They will destroy your career.
For me, Roger, that is a dictatorship.
It is very interesting.
I tuned into Radio Libre 790 in Miami this afternoon.
The gentleman that I heard speaking formerly worked for Barack Obama, had been his spokesman for a number of years.
I didn't agree with him, but he was very, very articulate and he made a very good case for his point of view.
So, the first time I turned into the network, I heard entirely balanced commentary.
I really think that's what the Hispanic community is missing.
I think as you produce more truth-based reporting through Americanomedia.com, I urge you to go to Americanomedia.com Because their programming can both be heard on radio, but is also available in video on the website.
It's very, very exciting to see what you are doing.
So, Orlando Avedanyo, you have an open invitation to come back here on the Stone Zone as Americano Media grows and progresses and to join us again.
Thank you very much, Ryan.
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Thank you for coming in at the last minute.
We really appreciate your being in the Stone Zone.
Thank you very much, Ryan.
It's been a pleasure.
I hope our guest Orlando will forgive my horrific Spanish pronunciation, but I'm a gringo and I'm doing the best that I can.
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We have been growing very dramatically, and the show with Laura Loomer centered around a complaint Filed by a super PAC supporting Donald Trump, which alleged that Governor Ron DeSantis may be violating state and federal law in his current shadow campaign.
Now, I do want to be completely candid.
When many people said, oh, well, George Soros has endorsed Ron DeSantis.
No, I watched carefully what Soros said.
He spoke favorably in his political analysis of Governor DeSantis.
I did not consider that an endorsement.
However, when I saw this complaint filed, there's kind of two parts of it.
There is a law on the books in Florida that prohibits somebody who currently holds state office from running for federal office if the terms of those offices would overlap.
So, for example, Governor Rick Scott did not have to resign as governor of Florida to run for the U.S.
Senate because, had he been elected, and he was, the term for the Senate seat ended after his term as governor ended.
Pardon me, his term as the Senate began after his term in the Senate ended.
Therefore, he was not required to resign.
But Byron Donalds, a congressman that I greatly admire, had to resign from his House seat in the Florida lower house in order to successfully pursue a congressional seat, which he won.
So did his opponent, State Representative Dane Eagle, someone else I like very much.
He also had to resign in order to pursue federal office.
But the more important part of the question, of course, is where the funding Where the governor's book tour is coming from, and whether the governor is illegally or improperly enriching himself with the $2 million advance that he got from HarperCollins for his book, and whether that is an inducement to him to run for office.
I'm not an attorney.
I thought the complaint was well reasoned.
On the question of the state law, I think it will soon become moot.
First of all, a filing with the State Ethics Commission, which is notoriously slow to consider questions and has a majority appointed by Governor DeSantis, will most likely be rendered moot either by the Florida State Legislature changing, repealing that law, which I think is highly likely, or by the fact that the Governor will finally give up this shadow boxing and actually become a candidate.
It is interesting to me that the more discussion of a potential candidacy by Governor DeSantis, the more his poll ratings have actually suffered.
So earlier in the process, I think he was propped up by the millions and millions of dollars that were spent on media, both in the state in Florida and outside the state of Florida.
in digital advertising to promote his gubernatorial candidacy, but that advertising has ended.
And therefore, I've seen in more recent days a surge in support for President Trump and a slight drop in the support for Governor DeSantis.
At the end of the day, it's a free country.
Governor DeSantis is entitled to run for president if he chooses to do so, but he has to do so consistent with both state and federal election law.
I do believe he will be a candidate.
I'm a strong supporter of President Donald Trump.
I've made no bones about that.
But I think the governor can expect his record to come under close voter scrutiny, just as I think the president realizes his record will come under scrutiny.
In that comparison, I think President Trump comes out on top.
So some clarification there of our broadcast with the great Laura Loomer, a woman who is never at a loss for words.
This has been the Stone Zone.
I want to thank Gavin Wax, chairman of the oldest, largest, and most vibrant young Republican club in America, the New York Young Republicans, for joining us.
Also, Orlando Avidano, who joined us from Americano Media.
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