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March 29, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Jackson Lahmeyer of Pastors For Trump on Trump Prayer Call & the Trolls Who Crashed It!
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And now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
Welcome.
I'm Roger Stone, and you are about to enter the Stone Zone. - Yeah.
I guess everybody in the country, including the President's supporters mostly, want to know whether, in fact, he will be charged and placed under arrest in New York City by Manhattan County District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
I stress that the President has said that he has received no formal notification through his lawyers from prosecutors saying that those charges are a certainty.
There has been a flurry of news regarding late additional witnesses before the grand jury, but grand jury testimony is secret and we don't know what the impact or import of those witnesses may or may not have been.
We do know that the reason that they want to take down Donald Trump is because he poses an existential threat to the New World Order, to the World Economic Forum, and to their Great Reset, which they are doing as quickly as possible under the lack of leadership or strength of Joe Biden.
President Trump said President Biden has brought us closer to World War III than we have ever been.
Every day this proxy battle in Ukraine continues, we risk global war.
We must make it absolutely clear that our objective is to immediately have a total cessation of hostilities.
We need peace without delay.
We have to finish the process of fundamentally re-evaluating NATO's purpose and NATO's mission.
Our foreign policy establishment keeps trying to pull the world into conflict with a nuclear-armed Russia based on the lie that Russia represents the greatest threat against our nation.
The greatest threat to Western civilization today is not Russia.
It is more probably, probably, it's probably more than anything else ourselves.
A man who has those views cannot be allowed to be president.
The Democrat media cabal, the deep state if you will, the moneyed interests of Wall Street, Big Pharma, the intelligence community, and certainly the legacy media, cannot risk another Trump presidency.
A re-elected Donald Trump would be a much wiser Donald Trump.
What they are seeking to do in New York is a travesty.
The alleged crimes have been investigated by five previous federal investigators, none of them friendly towards Donald Trump, and every one of them concluded that there was not sufficient evidence to bring charges.
At best, even if these charges were proven, it would be a simple campaign finance violation, a misdemeanor.
But Soros-funded DA Alvin seeks now to bump these up from a misdemeanor to a felony.
Alvin Bragg.
It is part and parcel of the effort to take Donald Trump down.
Now, people have asked me, what can we do about this?
First of all, The president said this in his own true social posting and he called for protest.
Let me stress that any person who chooses to protest publicly must do so in a peaceful, civil, orderly, and entirely legal manner.
It was quoted as saying this in the New York Times at a prayer call last night sponsored by pastors for Trump.
Shared by Pastor Jackson Lawmire.
Unfortunately, while this had an enormous call-in audience, over 250,000 call-ins on various platforms, the call prayer was infiltrated by trolls and ultimately shut down.
But most interestingly, during the call, President Donald Trump himself jumped on and had a few key words about where his head is at.
We're going to roll that for you, because you may not have been able to see it last night.
Doing well, Jackson.
I appreciate it, and it's an honor to be with you.
And I just heard Great General Flynn and my friend Roger Stone, and I was very honored to give them full pardons, because they were treated horribly by government, these radical left lunatics.
And, uh, they have full gardens.
They're almost as clean as you are right now, Jackson.
That's in a very special category, okay?
But, uh, they're two terrific people that really suffered greatly at the hands of crazy people.
So, this was my, uh, my great honor.
And, Clay, thank you very much for the great job you've done.
And, Kristen Davis, we appreciate it very much.
Very much.
President Trump, I wanted to tell you, my wife and I were attending the NCAA wrestling event in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and we could see you, and all I could say is that my wife and I, Pastor Jackson, everybody out there is praying for you, and I think a lot of people are looking for a specific need that you have, sir.
What is the prayer that you would like for the thousands of pastors who are tuning in right now?
What is the specific prayer request that you have tonight, sir?
Well, Clay, thank you very much, and I will begin by just saying that it's an honor to be with you.
I know that the phones weren't working too well just a little while ago, but I think probably it was the radical left that did something with them, and that's okay, because we're going to beat them, and we're going to beat them all the time.
We have to pray, and we have to do all of the things that we just have to get it going, and we have to make sure that Our country remains strong.
It's not strong right now.
It's in a position that few people have seen it in.
I think it's the most dangerous that we've ever had.
We've never been in a position like this with a leader that doesn't know what he's doing, a leader that truly has no clue, and other leaders that are at the absolute top of their game.
When you look at China and Russia and Iran and all of these Rather hostile places.
What they're doing is to our country, but what they're doing is gathering together.
Last week, as you probably read, Saudi Arabia joined with Iran.
This is unthinkable.
And it was put together by China, not by us.
So we have a situation that we've never been in this danger before.
I believe it's a world danger because of the power of nuclear weapons and weaponry generally.
But I believe we've never been in a position like this before.
And we have a leader who's grossly incompetent, surrounded by vicious people who happen to be smart, but they're vicious and they don't believe in what we believe.
They don't believe in our nation.
I believe they have to hate our nation with open borders and with all of the other things that where they don't want voter ID.
They want high taxes.
They want high interest rates.
They want everything that they shouldn't be wanting.
We have no leadership.
We're like a rudderless giant ship, but the giant ship is heading to the bottom of the sea if we don't do something, and we'll do it through prayer.
And I have such respect.
I know we have 3,000 pastors on the phone tonight, and we'll do it through prayer if you would like to do that and lead it, but that's what The answer is we have to bring our country back and our country was so much stronger in the past.
And frankly, it was very strong.
Three years ago, we had things going like never before energy independence and and strong military.
We rebuilt our military.
Our military was virtually obsolete.
I rebuilt the military.
We cut taxes at a level that nobody's nobody ever thought possible.
And I'd still do it again because we're still paying too much tax.
But what they've done with regulations, they're putting regulations back on.
We cut regulations more than anybody in the history of our government, of our country.
And that was one of the reasons we had such tremendous job growth and all of the great things that happened.
So it's been an honor to be president.
I'm running for president again.
We're doing very well in the polls.
The polls are way up, way, way above any Republican or any Democrat.
I've had tremendous support from the pastors and from people of faith.
I think, really, I could actually say people of faith.
And it's an honor to be with all of you and uh I hope you can hear me clearly now because we did try this twice and I'm I'm only kiddingly convinced of course I have to say kiddingly but I'm only kiddingly convinced that the radical left did it but they are doing great damage they are doing tremendous damage to our country sir we can we keep going like this we won't have a country anymore
Sir, we can hear you loud and clear, and Pastor Jackson Laumeyer wanted to pray for you tonight, and we'd just like to ask you, is there anything specifically that we can be praying for you as a man and the soon-to-be 47th President of the United States?
How can we pray for you tonight, sir?
Well, the best thing you can do for me is to pray for our country and the safety of our country because, as I just said, the danger that we're in now I think is greater than any danger we've ever had.
We have No leader.
We are not a respected country by these other very hostile countries.
In some cases, very hostile.
And I think the greatest thing that I can ask for is a prayer for our country, for our safety.
And we have to get through this period of time.
This has been a horrible period of time for the United States of America.
Leadership has taken us in many, many bad directions.
And we're a Absolutely.
We're right now a failing nation.
So the most important thing I believe that we can do right now is pray for the safety, the security, and the success and future success of our country.
That would be the thing I would ask you to pray for.
Absolutely.
And Mr. President, I'd like to take just a moment to pray that prayer and pray over you just for a second, if you'd be okay with that.
Yes, please.
Well, Father, right now, I thank you for President Donald J. Trump.
And God, I thank you for all that you've done to him, and through him, and for him over the last eight years.
But, Father, I know, and I thank you in advance, that his best days are still right in front of him.
That you have saved the best for the last.
Yes, as the 47th President of the United States.
That, Father, your word says that when the wicked rule, the people groan.
Right now, the people in the United States of America are groaning.
Groaning like never before because wickedness is in all forms of high places in this nation.
But Father, we thank you that you've raised up a man in Donald J. Trump for such a time as this.
That your word says when the righteous rule, The people rejoice.
And so father, I thank you that a righteous man and Donald Trump is going to be back at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and the people of the United States of America will come to rejoice because father you have anointed him and you have blessed him.
You have given him wisdom and discernment and a spirit of resiliency.
And so, Father, we declare that over our president, a spirit of resiliency that no matter what comes at him, the strength of the Lord will be with him and the joy of the Lord will be with him.
And so we pray over President Trump and his family.
And, Father, we thank you that you're going to use this family to help correct the direction of this nation and that one day out of Washington, D.C., we'll be able to say justice is flowing like a river and righteousness like a never-ending stream.
And, Father, we ask that every single person that refuses to submit to your will in Washington, D.C., you would uproot them and you would remove them and replace them with men and women who will submit to the will of God.
Father, I thank you.
Your blessing and your favor is over President Trump and his family and this nation.
In Jesus' name, amen.
President Trump, thank you for pushing through with persistence to make this happen.
I appreciate you working through the technological demons.
Thank you, sir.
I really do appreciate you.
Well, thank you very much, and I'll see you all soon.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
Shortly after that, unfortunately, the entire call imploded.
Fortunately, I did have the opportunity, along with my very good friend, General Michael Flynn, to speak prior to the president.
And then, yes, as we have now confirmed, the entire podcast was infiltrated by trolls who were successful in shutting the entire thing down.
Fortunately, they did not do so prior to the President being able to speak.
Now, you may have noticed that when he was asked, President Trump did not ask for the prayers of the people, for himself or his family, but he said instead that he would urge all of us To pray for our country.
Joining us now, the man who organized that call, the chairman of Pastors for Trump, Pastor Jackson Laumeyer of Tulsa, Oklahoma joins us.
Well, thank you so much for having me on, Mr. Stones.
Good to see you again, and hopefully our connection's a little better today.
That was really an extraordinary experience, having the President call in as he did.
I know he was frustrated by some of the technical issues, as we were, but excellent remarks by my good friend, General Michael Flynn.
I understand there were some additional remarks later by Kash Patel and others.
Tell me, how many people do we think we had for that portion alone?
Well, so here's what I know.
As you and General Flynn were speaking, the numbers were just increasing.
We reached over 100,000 people were live while you two were speaking.
And then when we brought the President on, we peaked at over 115,000 people live at one time.
You gotta remember, we were streaming on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Rumble.
And we peaked at 115,000 people, which was incredible.
But here's where the problem came.
Through the platform we were streaming through, there's a backstage for the speakers.
Well, that link somehow got out and trolls infiltrated the backstage and literally kicked us out of our own broadcast.
On our end, we've got kicked out, froze out, removed, and that's where we went offline.
And so it was an incredible thing to have 115,000 people join live to pray for President Trump.
Unfortunately, the trolls, like I said, they got into the back end and, you know, they do what they do.
They bring about disharmony and destruction.
However, the president was so gracious to hop back on the phone, allow us to hear from him, record it, pray for him.
And you talk about the honor of a lifetime.
As a pastor, getting to pray for President Trump was a huge honor.
I thought it was a very, very effective event.
There are a couple different versions of it have been posted online.
We're going to see, take a look at it and post the highlights at the Stone Zone, at our Rumble feed.
You can look for that.
Recently, the President visited your native Oklahoma.
He went to a wrestling championship there, hosted by Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
What kind of response did he get in his recent visit to the Sooners Day?
Oh, he got a standing ovation the moment he walked in.
It was at the BOK Center here in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Unfortunately, I was out of town.
And so I got to watch the highlights on Twitter.
But, you know, President Trump is the people's champion.
He's not loved by necessarily the country crub Republicans.
You and I both know that.
But the people.
Uh, the people love Donald Trump.
And so when he walked into the BOK Center, you know, it's a NCAA wrestling championship.
And so you got people from all over the country.
It wasn't just Tulsans there.
You know, you got people from everywhere, uh, gathered in one place to watch the championship wrestling match.
And when he walked in, the place exploded.
People can go watch those videos on Twitter.
They're everywhere.
And it just shows you the passion.
Uh, that people have in the love that they have for President Trump because he's taken so many arrows and so many bullets on our behalf.
And that's why it's so important right now that all of us stand up and fight with and for President Trump because the attacks are only increasing.
You know, they're not relenting on attacking him.
They're so fearful of him.
They're increasing.
Uh, their attacks and that's why we put on last night's prayer call was literally just to do what we can.
You know, uh, some of us can do other things, but what we can do as pastors and spiritual leaders is pray for the president and a number that will encourage everybody.
We had over, listen to this, Mr. Stone, over 3000 pastors pre-register 3000 pastors pre-registered to join, to pray for president Trump.
That's a huge number on a very short notice because We didn't come up with this prayer event until the weekend and so we only had like two days to let people know about it and 115,000 people joined live and 3,000 pastors preregistered.
It shows you people care for President Trump and what's happening to him right now is terrible but it's only galvanizing his support.
I spoke to the president after the He was good-natured about the technological problems.
He was very, very appreciative of all those who did dial in or call in.
And he has said that he would do another prayer group with Pastors for Trump.
So folks may want to go to that link we're showing on the screen.
We will show momentarily.
It is pastorsfortrump.com.
Not all that hard to remember.
You might want to go pre-qualify there for a The next call, President Trump has promised to do another call.
This time we will tighten up our technology substantially.
Talking now outside the spiritual realm but in the political realm, I have seen new polling now that shows the American people, particularly Republicans, are in fact rallying to President Trump's side.
This is actually turbocharging his campaign and these nakedly politically motivated and I think excessively thin charges are actually having a positive political benefit for the President.
Prior to the president going public with what was about to happen, which I still don't think will happen tomorrow, but my best sources tell me will happen either later this week or next week, the charging of President Donald Trump in a campaign finance violation that should be a misdemeanor, but used in this case as Alvin Bragg, the prosecutor, is a running dog for the deep state.
And for the political establishment.
I would point out that it was Prosecutor Bragg's office decided earlier not to bring charges against Donald Trump in matters relating to the Trump businesses, which others were charged in minor crimes there.
I think that caused a great deal of anger and dissension in some more radical elements of George Soros' political operation.
Soros did, of course, give $1 million to Bragg.
I think there's enormous staff pressure inside the district attorney's office to bring this case, having passed on the previous case.
But a morning consult poll prior to Trump saying that he expects to be arrested in this latest witch hunt, Had him leading his closest opponent, Governor Ron DeSantis, 51 to 29.
A survey taken this weekend, and let me say that the methodology of the morning consult poll is solid.
This is not a push poll.
This is not a manipulated poll for the purposes of showing one result or another.
This is a legitimate public opinion survey on Saturday.
With half the new sample done, Trump now increased his lead from 51-29 to 52-28, but by Sunday he was leading DeSantis 54-26.
So, as I expected, this is having the effect of turbocharging the Trump candidacy, but I don't think we can say this More definitively and more importantly, if you are praying for the president, that is great.
If you're praying for his family and for our country, that is also great.
If you do choose to participate in a public protest of any kind, tomorrow or on any other day, it is essential that you keep it peaceful, that you keep it civil, you keep it orderly, and you keep it legal.
Do not be goaded or prodded into violence or stupid acts by people who appear to be allies because they're wearing a Make America Great cap or a Trump t-shirt.
It is no question in my mind, politically, that the Deep State operatives would love to foment violence and then blame Donald Trump, as well as blaming leaders of the America First movement like General Flynn, Pastor Jackson Lawmire, and myself.
So we are strongly on the record for peaceful protests.
I already see the fake news frame job going on.
Rachel Maddow says on her show, Trump called for militant and racially tinged protest.
He never said anything of the kind.
Michael Cohn, who is the former Trump lawyer who's expected to be the chief witness against Trump should this prosecution go forward in New York, said that Trump was calling for a violent clash by his supporters.
Trump never said anything of the kind.
So you see the framing beginning.
That's exactly what these folks have in mind.
Jackson, I was very happy to see your new senator, Mark Wayne Mullen, publicly endorse Donald Trump over Governor Sanchez over the entire field.
I thought that was a very courageous move.
Most career politicians are sitting back Finger in the wind, see where these things might go.
Your own Governor Stitt visited Palm Beach, was there when Governor Ron DeSantis had a conclave, but subsequently told the Patriot Sentinel in a formal statement that it did not prenote an endorsement and that he is not endorsing Governor DeSantis over President Trump.
I noticed that Governor Stitt was there at the wrestling tournament.
I was happy to see that.
We will have you back to announce another Pastors for Trump call.
Folks, again, go to the website and sign up so you don't miss the rescheduled prayer call.
But right now, there is nothing more powerful than prayer.
On the good news front, my wife and I received word late yesterday that the CAT scan that was performed on her last week to determine what the status was in her battle against stage 4 cancer shows that her blood work is perfect and there is no reoccurrence of cancer.
Thank you, Jesus.
Thank you, Jesus.
And thank you to the thousands of people who prayed for us, those who gave to the Stone Family Fund to support her cancer therapies.
We are incredibly grateful for that.
Alright, Jackson Laumeyer, Chairman of Pastors for Trump.
Go sign up at Pastors for Trump.
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As some of you may have read, there's been so much political news.
I was rather surprised on Friday to receive yet another letter from Hunter Biden's high-priced Left-wing Democrat attorney Abby Lowell.
He has written me several weeks previously urging me in a threatening letter to preserve any documents that I had or any information pertaining to Hunter Biden's laptop and warning me, putting me on notice
That I'm not to speak about the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop in any public forum, complaining specifically about a discussion that we had on this show with Garrett Ziegler of the Marco Polo USA Foundation, which published a terrific and a heavily annotated, documented and footnoted report on the contents of the laptop.
That letter from Abby Lowell makes no sense because everything I know about the Hunter Biden laptop, I either read first about in the New York Post and then read online at the Marco Polo Foundation.
Any claim that I or my attorney, Tyler Nixon, Had prior knowledge or involvement or any participated in any way in the effort in which the laptop material became public is categorically false.
Why are they suing me rather than suing say the New York Post?
Well, that's because the New York Post has deep pockets.
But their new letter now tells me that I cannot discuss anything whatsoever regarding Hunter Biden.
More specifically, they objected to a comment made on the air, not by myself, but by Garrett, who actually accused Hunter Biden or I said in essence that the file he produced included documentation of multiple crimes including sex crimes.
The UK Daily Mail has a terrific piece right now which documents from the laptop material the transporting of prostitutes over state lines from Massachusetts, I believe it is, to New York.
But there is evidence of everything and anything that I have said.
Joining us now by phone is my longtime attorney who has also received a threatening letter Tyler Nixon joins us now.
Roger, good to be with you.
Tyler, thank you so much for joining us.
We have your disembodied voice.
You've had an opportunity, you and I spoke about this on the Alex Jones Show on Sunday night.
It was an epic broadcast.
Folks can see that at Band.TV if you haven't seen it.
But you, what do you make of these two letters now?
From Democratic hitman, Abby Lowell.
Do you think he has any legal argument here?
No, I don't.
I absolutely don't.
And I think they know they don't have any legal argument.
You know, first of all, asking you to apologize and retract and turn over.
I mean, this is just ridiculous considering how much of this material is in the public domain now.
You're being singled out and targeted.
Because you are high profile, you're close to Donald Trump, and you're also, you know, fearless in terms of taking on these people.
But you know what I find interesting, really, Roger, is that if you think about it, why were we ever commenting, you know, explicitly on the laptop in the first place?
I mean, aside from just, you know, the knowledge of it that was in the public sphere, why would we, you and I, be drawn into that?
Well, could it be because we love our country and we really wonder whether I meant who implicated us that would result in our having to comment or commenting publicly?
Kevin Morris.
In other words, Biden's people included you into the mix.
So, you know, this is laughable.
They come up with some delusional fantasy about your having, you know, potentially obtained the laptop from whatever, whoever the guy is, the Abloh, I guess.
And this is floated by Kevin Morris.
So you and I begin sort of weighing in on this, weighing in on the laptop in detail, more generally, or on the whole situation.
So, you know, this is Kevin Morris is Hunter Biden's, whatever you want to call him, sugar bro, his lawyer, his, you know, his sugar daddy, I guess, in some ways.
But I mean, They're the ones who brought us into it, okay?
This is Biden's people.
So if, you know, Hunter Biden wants to make an issue of this, he's the one who brought us into it, not the other way around.
You make an excellent point.
Kevin Morris is a Hollywood, I think, attorney screenwriter.
Seems to be the money behind this effort to silence us.
And he has peddled to various news organizations a Unabomber-style chart There's no evidence of that whatsoever.
It is a delusional conspiracy theory, but it is defamatory.
somehow involved anywhere in the process by which the laptop became public.
And he has claimed that that is illegal.
There is no evidence of that whatsoever.
It is a delusional conspiracy theory, but it is defamatory.
So if Hunter Biden's lawyers decide to sue me when I think they have no case, because I've exercised my First Amendment rights, I have no involvement in the process by which the laptop became public, although based on what I've read and heard, I believe it to be entirely legal.
I think the laptop material is in the public domain.
Uh, then I would be forced to file a countersuit for defamation because they've contacted multiple media outlets and made false allegations about my knowledge and accused me of illegal activity.
That would be defamatory.
I also hope that Hunter Biden's lawyers understand that Were they to sue me, or you, or any other journalist or commentator, that would subject Hunter Biden to cross-examination about every page of the laptop.
And that would be painful, to say the least.
Now, I'm not all that interested in Hunter Biden's personal There's shocking stuff there, but that's not what concerns me the most.
What concerns me most is the evidence of corruption, the evidence of influence peddling, the evidence of foreign influence and bribery.
To this administration.
We learned yesterday from the House Oversight Committee that they now have bank records showing millions of dollars going from Chinese interests to specifically Biden family members including Jim Biden, Hunter Biden, Biden's daughter, and then some unspecified Biden that the Treasury Department doesn't want to or can't identify.
Boy, that sounds kind of fishy, doesn't it?
So, folks, why are they suing me and not the New York Post?
I'll tell you why.
It's really very simple.
Because they know that my wife and I are already fighting 11 Baseless, groundless, unsubstantiated, but heavily sensationalized civil actions against us filed by partisans, Democrats, liberals, George Soros-funded groups, and others.
They know that that is a tremendous financial burden.
They know that my wife is struggling successfully in her fight with stage 4 cancer.
As I said in the opening, very good news today.
On that front, thank you, Jesus, but the therapies that she uses are not inexpensive.
They think perhaps that I will fold or issue a letter of apology.
That's not going to happen, folks.
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Would I like to close it down?
Yes.
Would I like to not have to continue asking for help?
Yes, I would.
Am I a grifter?
No, absolutely not.
I lost my home, my car, my savings, much of my insurance.
My ability to make a living was hampered by the gag of a federal judge for almost 16 months, and I still struggle every day to make ends meet.
But that doesn't mean that I will shy away from this fight.
It just seems to me that That Hunter Biden's lawyers don't seem to recognize how vulnerable it would leave him were they to bring a specious, frivolous lawsuit against me or you, both of us or others.
What do you think, Tyler?
Well, you know, I think, first of all, they absolutely what's interesting, I guess, what they leave out, because you mentioned that one issue and I actually wasn't on the show at that point.
Uh, I guess concerning his using escort services, uh, and whatever have you, you know, clearly involving prostitution activities, right?
I mean, I don't, I'm not, there's no other way to say it.
Um, he's paying somebody, he's paying these women and you know, whatever have you, I mean, you know, but you've mentioned and we've mentioned numerous other things that have gone on, including frankly treasonous, uh, uh, ties or, uh, uh, dealings in my opinion.
With the Chinese Communist government or its appendages.
And it's funny, you know, of all the things they choose to go to ask you to cease and desist on and to apologize for, it's the sex thing or sex crimes thing, which, first of all, by, I guess, by omission, indicates that they're not willing to deny anything else, really.
I mean, they've come after that alone.
Which I guess, you know, it comes down to, you know, can you prove that he was, uh, uh, you know, committing sex crimes in the sense of, uh, what transporting?
I think it was, it wasn't even your comment.
It was Garrett's comment, but, uh, that being said, it's interesting.
And, and it, it is a typical Democrat tactic.
I mean, let's face it, Bill Clinton in, in, uh, you know, in the entire, in his presidency, they, the Democrats wanted and were thrilled to make it all about sex, right?
All about, Oh, it's the Republicans obsessed with a sex scandal.
Rather than about the Clinton's epic corruption involving also the Chinese Communist government as well, in addition to the Arkansas stuff.
So I just it's curious to me that they would limit it to that and ask you to apologize for it.
But moreover, I think you're absolutely right.
And, you know, many times you've said you felt that some of these attorneys are Should be sanctioned, you know before the law for pursuing or for for ethics violations so forth but moreover for pursuing charges they know are False against you or or that you know using evidence.
That's false and generally, I you know, I do mirror because you know, I I Believe that standard has to be pretty tight in terms of proving that and it's not the matter of that It doesn't mean they're not using you know, those are those weren't true allegations, but it's a matter of what you can prove or whether they can Sort of worm their way out of it.
But the fact is, in this case, I mean, they have to know the standards of law that they would be dealing with if they were to sue you for defamation.
And as you pointed out in that Daily Mail article, and I've also confirmed many times, in New York Times v. Sullivan, obviously they established the public figure standard.
Um, as well as the actual malice standard.
And the fact is the truth is a perfect defense.
But the fact is also that you would have to know you'd have to have known it was false in order for Hunter Biden to have been defamed in any way.
Or you had had a reckless disregard for the truth.
And I'm sorry, but no ethical, conscientious, legitimate attorney can believe that Hunter Biden Considering how much this has been in the public eye and how much information has been disseminated, could possibly be defamed by anything you said, or that you would have to make anything up or lie about it.
You would make a false statement.
And even so, your statements were never specific allegations necessarily.
You might have said sex crimes, but I mean, you didn't accuse him of anything specific.
Um, so, you know, this is the thinnest absolute case that I've ever, I mean, I can't even believe they're doing, I think it's literally, they have nothing else and they have no one else that they are willing to go after.
So they just think that you're a vulnerable target because you have been so absolutely ravaged and savaged by the deep state and the Democrat crime syndicate, uh, you know, legally and otherwise dragged through criminal proceedings, dragged through multiple Totally bogus civil filings, civil proceedings going back to 2017, you know, and to the point where Nydia was, I think, driven to illness.
And thank God, and I want to affirm what you say about, thank God that Nydia remains, you know, cancer-free right now and that her prognosis is good.
I mean, that is just One of the, I guess, the silver lining to the cloud.
But, you know, she was absolutely, and she looks wonderful, by the way.
She looks absolutely, she looks like a new woman.
And I think, I think it's because I had to, you know, be up close to you guys so much in the midst, in the thick of your being persecuted and the criminal stuff.
And it had to have weighed so heavily on her that it's not so much that she didn't look good before.
It's this, just that that weight being lifted when, you know, all this is behind you largely.
She just, it really brought her spirit up, though she had to obviously fight cancer.
And God bless her and God bless you for standing with her and being her support and her rock, just as you, just as she has been for you.
And, you know, I just think it's disgusting.
It's sort of picking on someone who, as I've said many times, you're very effective, Roger, but you don't have an institutional bulwark to stand behind.
You're not, you've never held a government office.
You're not, you're not, you know, sort of Protected by rings of whatever have you institutional protection as you know, Hunter Biden clearly is so I think they view you as sort of out there, you know, just doing doing what you do, which is in my opinion public service often at great expense to yourself as we've seen and they just think you're easy.
They think they can they can unleash and it's sort of punishment by prosecution of the case, even though they know they have none.
But in this case, I think you know, Malicious prosecution usually has to involve criminal proceedings but There has to be some level of sanction involved when they just know full well, any analysis of this case would indicate, I mean, that he's a public figure, that you cannot defame him with true facts, obviously, and that even so, you would have to know they were false and very, very plainly state false things in order to defame him.
And then none of that's the case.
So this is just, this is just chess beating, again, and going after low hanging fruit, in terms of, you know, someone who doesn't have necessarily Has to go out and raise money to defend himself against this.
So it makes it particularly malicious, I think.
And, you know, I'm dragged into it.
I intend to fight back hard.
And I know Garrett Ziegler will, too, because these people are criminals, as far as I'm concerned.
And, you know, that's my opinion and I can state it.
And guess what?
I think there's plenty of evidence to back it up, whether it's been, you know, no matter where you look, publicly or otherwise.
And all this has been in the public domain.
And, you know, Hunter Biden is just, I'm really just disappointed.
I thought he would want to maintain a private life in the sense of like, just let it go man.
It's out there.
You're going to now make it, you're going to put it into the public record as you said.
He's going to have to be cross-examined because he's going to have to deny that he ever paid women for sex or took them across state lines or whatever have you.
They choose out of that panoply of insanity to go after you.
He doesn't even seem to be able to decide whether the laptop is his.
They're evidently Multiple laptops that went missing.
I know nothing about that either.
Yeah.
No, it's not mine.
It was Russian disinformation.
Well, maybe it's mine.
Well, wait a minute.
Now you have to stop talking about it.
Well, if it's not yours, why would you want me to stop talking about it?
Folks, if you want to decide for yourself, go to MarcoPoloUSA.org.
MarcoPoloUSA.org.
Online, you can see a very, very well done A perfectly, legally obtained, annotated, footnoted, illustrated copy of Hunter Biden's laptop.
The documentation to everything that I have said, even though most of those things have been extraordinarily general, exists in that report.
Again, MarcoPoloUSA.org.
Go check it out now.
Tyler, I want to thank you for joining us here yet again on the Stone Zone.
Today's UK Daily Mail story is quite incredible because it documents specific use of prostitutes has photos and other annotations.
So presumably, if they sue me, they will now have to also sue the UK Daily Mail.
We would, I guess, have to be co-defendants.
I don't think that that is likely.
Give us a quick, we have a few minutes, give us a quick, your quick take on the highly, I think, increasingly likely charges that will be brought by a New York County prosecutor against Donald Trump this week or early next week.
Well, you're talking about Alvin Bragg, who I think is just a despicable pustule Of a of a so-called public servant and just as this is the kind of ooze that Soros would would inflict on a population in this case, New York City, of course, you know, they mean the people did vote for him, but you know, I you had mentioned his name Bob forget the last name of the attorney who testified Robert Costello Costello Costello.
Yes, you had mentioned him and I hadn't had a chance to see what he was saying.
But I mean he He, in his testimony, not only, in my opinion, first of all, just shows Michael Cohen to be a deceitful, craven liar and a malicious, bitter person, but also the fact of how this is being mishandled, where he was, you know, Costello wanted to present the truth that
Cohen had waived his attorney-client privilege and that Cohen repeatedly you know over and over and over when when he was attorney so I mean this is on you know this is a privileged relationship meaning Cohen felt he could unburden himself to his attorneys meaning this is like in a relationship where you're pretty much gonna come clean about anything and if you had any info if Cohen had anything on Trump he would have given it over because he didn't want to go to you know prison And he said he didn't have anything.
Over and over and over he said this to Costello.
So Costello tries to testify to this, and they're thwarting him.
They're literally trying to suppress the truth in this grand jury.
And this abuse, I mean, rises to meets at the level of almost criminal abuse of power by this rogue DA.
Uh, this Alvin Bragg and and he, you know, his, he clearly thinks he's going to raise money.
He's going to send a higher office by being some sort of brand stander, uh, in this situation, but it's detestable.
It brings shame to the legal profession and to the justice system.
Generally, I think if if they want to pursue this and it's just.
It really, really angers me.
I don't normally get, I get outraged, but I don't get angry.
This angers me because this is just, I mean, these people are disgusting.
You are making your comments based on public reports.
Obviously, grand jury testimony is a secret.
We don't know precisely what Mr. Costello said.
We only know what the media is reporting Mr. Costello says.
Costello himself went on Tucker Carlson and recounted everything that I just said.
Exactly.
So we are reacting to what Mr. Costello said.
What impact that will have on the grand jury and a charging decision, we have no idea.
As we said in the first part of the show, we are praying for the President's safety.
We're praying for justice in this matter.
We're praying that all prosecutors, federal and state, get touched by the Lord to examine the facts fairly and not bring a politically motivated or fabricated charge against the president of the United States.
But as I said earlier, the former president, the evidence that this is politically redounding to Trump's benefit is overwhelming.
Governor DeSantis got roundly criticized yesterday for reiterating the false charges, denied by Trump that he had an affair with the porn star, denied by the porn star in civil litigation and weighed by previous prosecutors in the past who evidently did denied by the porn star in civil litigation and weighed by previous prosecutors There's a new report regarding DeSantis and the issue of extradition from Florida, which he has authority over as governor.
I haven't seen those stories yet, so I'm going to withhold comment until I have a chance to ask them.
I see some of them came in on the Ask Stone line.
We're out of time for today.
Tyler Nixon, a counselor, a friend, and an all-around great American, thank you for joining us here on The Stone Zone for this segment.
In the meantime, folks, please help me in the fight against Hunter Biden's extremely expensive, high-priced lawyers.
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