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Who Really Killed Kennedy? JFK Assassination 59th Anniversary - The StoneZONE with Roger Stone
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And now Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now here's your host, Roger Stone.
Hey, folks, good afternoon.
Welcome to the .
Okay, there we are.
Hey, sorry, a little technical difficulty, a little last minute drop in here.
I'm Tyler Nixon.
I'm Roger's personal attorney and a longtime friend.
Roger, unfortunately, has laryngitis from basically telling everyone who will listen how Roger, excuse me, how Donald Trump is going to be the next president of the United States.
So, unfortunately, he's not going to be with us today.
And today is a rather momentous day in American history.
The anniversary of it is November 22nd.
Uh, 2022 and 59 years ago in Dallas, Texas, the 35th president of the United States, John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, brutally assassinated.
Um, and for the last 59 years since that, uh, since that earth shattering event, um, uh, that, that, uh, resonated throughout history and continues, I think, to, uh, impact our, uh, impact our politics and our national life in ways that we don't even realize at this point.
Um, It has been the subject of major controversy.
The government obviously came out with the the Warren Commission report, which was essentially saying that it was a lone gunman up in an office building, Lee Harvey Oswald.
Of course, we've all heard of him.
And then the theories range from everybody from the Russians to the Cubans, to the mafia, to the CIA and on and on and on.
Roger Stone dipped his toe into the into this brouhaha of controversy.
Around 2013 right around the 50th anniversary of the assassination with his seminal book LBJ Excuse me the man who killed Kennedy against LBJ, which is really a must-read You can pick up a copy of it Roger basically weaves together the work of others who have put the finger on the 36th president and successor to John F. Kennedy Lyndon Baines Johnson and
As the center of a conspiracy involving probably a number of the elements that people think, including the mafia, the CIA.
Many people ask, was it the mafia?
Was it the CIA?
Was it the Cubans?
It was all of the above, really.
And they all centered around Lyndon Johnson.
When I say Cubans, I mean anti Castro Cubans.
And they all had a motive.
Texas oil, the defense industry, the Hawks, the Warhawks, all Had a motive against John F. Kennedy.
He advocated for peace.
He had advocated for nuclear arms reductions.
He had scaled back some of the some of the things that the Texas oil people really wanted.
He was going to pull us out of Vietnam.
And the bottom line is this.
Lyndon Johnson, of course, was basically about to be dumped from the ticket from the Kennedy ticket, which he had been on in 60.
And probably indicted because of Bobby Kennedy and the senator from my home state, the great John J. Williams.
Roger has really, I think, done a credit service to history in bringing this book together and putting the finger on the person who has been protected by this sort of establishment media, the intelligentsia, whatever, the official everything stories over has been protected from accountability because Lennon Johnson is absolutely I had every motive and Kennedy was killed in Johnson's home state on his home turf.
And, you know, basically he was in Texas.
Kennedy was in Texas at the behest of Lyndon Johnson.
So, you know, basically he invites Kennedy down to Texas to his home turf and Kennedy goes home in a casket and Johnson goes home president.
And why nobody wants to accept this reality and this possibility, I don't understand.
But Roger has gone a long way with his book.
To basically sorting out the details of that and showing why so many there's so many indicators and so much evidence That Lyndon Johnson was absolutely the center of this conspiracy to the 35th president his successor.
So we're going to watch some clips today of Rogers appearances around 2013 and some sense in which he lays forth and sets sets out a All of the rationale and there might be a little overlap with some of them, but they're great interviews and it's going to be a little little trip back in time before Donald Trump was on the scene when Roger was wading into again.
The the history is probably 20.
The 20th century is one of its greatest controversies, which is who killed John F. Kennedy and why.
So the first first clip we're going to look at is his interview with Larry King, who is a great, well-known broadcaster and.
Sort of a famous personality as an interviewer and a friend of Rogers for those who are maybe younger, don't know who Larry King was since he passed away recently.
And we're going to hear Roger basically lay out the initial sketch of his book.
So let's roll that clip.
On this historic day, joining us now is Roger Stone, known him a long time, political consultant, strategist, lobbyist, He's worked as an aide to Presidents Nixon and Reagan, as well as Senator Bob Dole, an old friend.
Roger has just released a new book.
It's The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, where he indicts the former president as the mastermind behind the assassination of Kennedy.
What got you started on this trail?
1964, Larry, I was a preteen volunteer in the Goldwater campaign.
I read a book called The Texan Looks at Lyndon by J. Evitz Haley, and it just blew my mind.
Johnson had a long career of criminality, murder, epic corruption, corruption of biblical proportions.
And he was very early tied to at least eight murders in Texas prior to JFK.
It also was a kind of a personality portrait of Johnson.
Johnson was an abusive, loud-mouthed bully.
He was a crude, vulgar, I think manic-depressive.
He was a mean guy.
On the other side, he got a lot of things done.
No question.
He was ruthless.
He was greedy.
He was very ambitious to be president.
But in November... That doesn't make him the killer of Kennedy.
No, it doesn't.
And I provide more than sufficient evidence.
But first, I think you do need to understand the capacity of the man's character for evil.
I would make the case to you that November 1963, he's a man staring into the abyss.
He knows that the Bobby Baker hearings are opening in the Senate and that Baker is his right hand man, secretary of the Senate, his bag man.
He knows that the Department of Justice under Attorney General Robert Kennedy, who you knew well, is investigating him in the Billy Sal Estes scandal.
Kennedy has handed over a dossier to Time Life, and Henry Luce has nine full-time investigators on the ground in Texas digging into LBJ for a December 1st issue.
So he's not just looking at being dumped from the ticket, although JFK tells Evelyn Lincoln on the eve of leaving for Dallas that Johnson will not be on the 64 ticket.
But he's looking at prosecution and jail.
And he's a very proud and very ambitious man.
So his choices are clear.
Become president or complete ruin.
So how does he set up this plot?
You say that Lee Harvey Oswald was not in the Texas book depository.
Well, I think he's in the building.
No, he's in the building, but I think he's on the second floor.
I am not alleging that Johnson in any way does this alone.
I think that he works... Well, Johnson was in the second car.
Right.
Which is, it's interesting because before the first bullet is shot, Johnson hits the deck.
We have photographic evidence that shows that Johnson is on the floor of his car, huddled around a walkie-talkie before the first shot is fired.
Then his Secret Service agent later lies to the Warren Commission, tells the Warren Commission that he pushed Johnson to the floor after he heard the first shot.
After Johnson's death, that agent recants and said, well, I said that because Johnson told me to.
But Lee Harvey Oswald told the police officer who arrested him in the movie theater.
I am because I interviewed the officer.
I am not.
I'm a patsy.
Right.
Now, patsy is not saying I didn't do it.
Well, I'm innocent.
What is patsy?
But he also says, I didn't shoot anybody.
The reporter says, did you shoot the president of the United States?
He yells out, no, sir, I did not.
A voice stress analysis, a technology that didn't exist in 1963, tells us that every time Oswald says he didn't shoot anybody, every time he says that he has done nothing but take a pistol into a theater, he's telling the truth. - I like some legal representation, but these police officers have not allowed me to have any.
I don't know what this is all about.
I work in that building.
Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir.
No, they're taking me in because of the fact that I live in Missouri.
- Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir.
- Back up, man.
- Come on, man.
- They're taking me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union.
- What time is this? - I'm just a patsy.
- You should have the president.
- I think Oswald is a fall guy.
- He also took a rifle to the depository, didn't he?
- Well, we're not sure about that.
No one saw a rifle.
We saw a bag of undetermined length under his arm, which he claims were curtain rods.
I'm uncertain about that, but I do think this, there's no way to be on the sixth floor and also be on the second floor 90 seconds later when he was not seen on the staircase.
But more importantly, Malcolm Wallace, who works for Lyndon Johnson, has left a 34-point match fingerprint in the sniper's nest.
You think he did it?
I think he did it.
And I think six witnesses go to the Warren Commission and say they saw him, or a man who met his description, heavy set, balding, glasses, in the window of the Texas School Book Depository in the minutes just before the shooting.
That testimony is disregarded and one witness, Richard Carr, who says he not only saw Wallace in the window but saw him flee, there are four attempts on his life between then and 1970.
I was involved in this a lot.
I knew Jim Garrison, the district attorney, who believed it was a conspiracy.
I never heard the name Wallace.
Where did this come from?
Wallace was a long-time convicted murderer.
He had been on the Johnson book at the Department of the Patriots.
You know I remember Johnson.
I believe that it is Wallace who is the murderer, for example, of Henry Wallace, the agriculture agent who was investigating the Johnson-Billy Solstice investigation.
Is he in the Warren Commission report?
He was never questioned by the Warren Commission.
They disregarded eyewitness testimony that places Wallace on the sixth floor.
Because Wallace was a convicted murderer, his fingerprint file was available and it matches a print other than Oswald's prints.
Why would that distinguished commission, and you're not going to tell me that Earl Warren was not a patriot or Senator Russell or Gerald Ford, Because Lyndon Johnson lies to everyone.
Look at Earl Warren's memoirs.
He says, Chief, I'm going to tell you the truth.
It was done by the Russians.
We must cover this up because it means Armageddon.
It means World War Three.
Millions will die.
So do it for your country.
That's why I think Richard Russell says on the day of the signing, He says to Johnson on the phone, I don't believe a word of it.
Johnson says, either do I. These learned men were conned by Johnson to think that they were covering up a Russian-Cuban conspiracy and there's no evidence of that.
How do you think he set it up?
I mean, what's your, give me the most here that happens.
Sure, first of all, I think he doesn't do it alone.
He is the chief appropriator for the CIA.
He is the mob, and he is the water boy for Texas oil.
Johnson sits on the committee that forms the CIA.
Johnson tucks the black box budgets into his aerospace budget Senate majority leader, so he has funded the CIA.
He is very close to the intelligence community.
Likewise, Johnson's taking $55,000 a month from Carlos Marz, his Texas gambling interest, illegal gambling.
So you think he sets up the CIA to do it?
I think he has a relationship with all these other entities that have their own motive.
The CIA is upset about the Bay of Pigs.
They're upset about the Cuban Missile Crisis.
They're upset about Kennedy's back-channel outreach to Cuba.
The mob is upset because they've been double-crossed.
They gave LBJ a million dollars.
All the people on top of this.
I just want to investigate and find out all the people on top of this, the years of searching, looking, how nothing of this ever comes out.
Well, it has come out.
There's at least three other works that I have built on.
There are a lot of researchers who have gone before me and said, well, it was the CIA, it was the mob, it was, as Jackie Kennedy believed, Texas oil.
They're all correct, but what do all those entities have in common?
Lyndon Baines Johnson, whose motive is greater than any of them.
They all have their own motive, but his motive is greater and he has a unique relationship with each of them.
After the break, we'll go further into this extraordinary book by Roger Stone, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case LBJ.
We'll be right back.
Roger Stone, the book The Man Who Killed Kennedy.
What does your opinion mean?
I think that he is maneuvered into place by the CIA.
First of all, the intelligence community lies to the Warren Commission.
both the FBI and the CIA have previous knowledge of Oswald and Ruby, for that matter, that they deny.
We now know on the basis of testimony from CIA officials like Victor Marchetti, Robert Plumlee, and others that Oswald was part of a defector program that he'd worked for the agency.
It explains why when he returns from Russia, he sends it back immediately without ever asking for it.
And we pay his airline fare, we the taxpayers, and they give him $5,000.
He ties to the intelligence community.
When he's arrested in New Orleans for handing out pro-Castro flyers, there's one call.
Does he call his wife?
Does he call his lawyer?
No, he calls the head of the FBI in New Orleans, and an hour later he's out of jail.
Are you a conspiracy buff?
Not at all.
I don't believe that flying saucers landed in Roswell.
I'm a political realist.
I did eight national presidential campaigns.
I spent substantial time with some of the politicians of our day.
Some tough guys.
I think this book is kind of a warts and all.
In other words, I'm rough on Republicans and Democrats.
I'm rough on the Kennedys, LBJ, Nixon.
How does this make you feel about your country?
Well, I think that's the lesson here.
government?
If I believe what you believe, if I checked and I'm anxious to read the book, check it off, I'd go out of my mind.
Well, I think that is the lesson.
I think that's the lesson here.
In other words, no one is going to try Lyndon Johnson posthumously for murder.
But I do think that if younger people read this book and they get the idea that the government doesn't always tell you the truth and that you should regard what the government tells you, whether it's about Benghazi or health care or anything else with a certain level, level of skepticism, then I think I've achieved something.
In other words, In 1963, as you know, Larry, with only three television networks, you have an information monopoly.
After the Vietnam War, after the Watergate, I think, for the first time, the American people begin to doubt whether the government always tells us the truth.
That's why 70-some percent of the people tell us they don't believe the Warren Commission, even today.
Isn't that because it's so hard to believe that one single loner Where the rifle goes up and kills the president.
Yeah, it lacks credibility completely.
And then someone kills him.
I mean, the whole thing is bad fiction.
Right, because they wanted Red not a talking head.
I mean, the fact that he is immediately murdered before he could go to trial, and the American people could find out what really happened here, makes this all the more disturbing.
But in 1963, the American people just accept the government's version.
And I think good men like Earl Warren go along with a cover-up because they're covering up international conspiracy.
Robert Kennedy sends an emissary to the Russians.
He gives them a three-part message.
One, we know this was a domestic conspiracy that killed my brother.
Two, there's a reason why it happened in Dallas.
That's Lyndon Johnson.
Elevation is a grievous problem in the peace process.
So, you know, I think the Kennedys knew it was Johnson.
Evelyn Lincoln, John Kennedy's secretary, tells us it's Johnson.
E. Howard Hunt says it on his deathbed that it's Johnson.
Jack Ruby, when he's being dragged down the hall, they say, Jack, how could this happen?
This never would have happened if Adlai Stevenson had been vice president, he says.
Jack, what do you mean?
Look at the man at the top, the man who's in there now.
He's referring to Lyndon Johnson.
What do you think Ruby killed?
Does that play any part in this story?
Sure, I think Ruby silences Oswald.
Ruby, the Warren Commission tells us Ruby has... Do you think Oswald knew?
No, I think Oswald is a patsy and we don't want him to discuss that he works for the CIA and that he has an intelligence background.
I think they want to quiet him very quickly.
The Warren Commission tells us Ruby's connection to organize crime.
That's an absurdity.
Carlos Marcello, he runs his club, Sufferance of Mob.
He's run guns to Cuba for Marcello.
He's clearly a low-level mob guy, and his contacts are in the Dallas Police Department because the off-duty police officers drink and cavort and play with women at his strip club.
Do you think Roger will ever find it all out?
No, I think it's unlikely because there's obviously, there is both a mainstream thing going on where we bolster the results of the Warren Commission, and then there are other people out there who have some scholarship who have a different theory, but But I must tell you, I don't think LBJ did it.
I know he did it.
The time warp too, you have 50 years.
Very hard.
But it couldn't happen today, because instead of just having the one Zapruder film, you'd have dozens of cell phone camera videos and photos of the crime.
Can't wait to read it, Roger.
I thank you very much for coming.
I thank you for having me.
Thanks to my guest, Roger Stone.
Check out the book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
Internet information flows faster.
It flows wider.
I think it makes cover up almost impossible.
Can't wait to read it, Roger.
I thank you very much for coming.
Thank you for having me.
Thanks to my guest, Roger Stone.
Check out the book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
I'll see you next time.
Well, that was Larry King with Roger in 2013.
And of course, again, go to thestonezone.com, get yourself a copy of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, Case Against LBJ.
This is, it's a must read for a history buff.
For anybody who wants to know the truth about what brought us to where we are, why the deep state exists, what it has gotten away with, and its original sin was the assassination of President Kennedy.
And Roger, I'll tell you what he you got to give him credit.
You can see why he was is sought after before he became the subject of such censorship.
But he really, really knows his stuff when he dives into a subject.
And when he touches on any sort of historical events, he really, really knows the details.
And he is really up to speed on it.
And you can see that in that interview.
And he's really hitting all the major points, which is, first of all, Lee Oswald was innocent.
Lee Oswald didn't even fire a gun.
That day, and it's a lot of a lot of people find that hard to believe and they don't want to accept it.
But that's just the reality.
And also that, you know, just the motives that Lyndon Johnson had, which were immense.
And the fact of Johnson's just corroded carrot.
So, you know, we're looking back in time here at clips of Roger Stone's his appearances that he did around the launch of his book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
Which was a New York Times bestseller when it came out, and again, you can get a copy for yourself at thestonezone.com.
He made the rounds, including C-SPAN, so you can't even see him on YouTube barely today.
Roger has been so censored, but not even ten years ago, nine years ago, you could find him on Book TV on C-SPAN, and that's our next clip.
Roger appearing at a bookstore talking about LBJ and his book.
Let's roll that.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
First, let me thank Books and Books for this terrific opportunity.
This is my last book signing of 2013.
And it has been a tremendous experience.
I have been to Santa Monica, California, Paramus, New Jersey, Atlantic City, New Jersey, three different boroughs of New York City, Queens, Brooklyn, and Manhattan.
I have been to Dallas on November 22nd, 2013.
I had a book signing there on the 50th anniversary of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
Then on to Lyndon Johnson's hometown, ...in the Driscoll Hotel in the very room where Johnson had trysts with his mistress, and I was roundly ignored by most of the Texas media.
The book has become a New York Times bestseller.
It is an Amazon bestseller.
It is a USA Today bestseller.
And I'm gratified about that.
I have approached this subject as one would approach a murder investigation.
Indeed, the murder investigation that conducted in Dallas in 1963 and never was.
And I have come to the conclusion, based on enormous amount of research by those who have gone before me, That Lyndon Johnson was the linchpin of a plot that involved numerous others.
And there is, I think, substantial research now.
Thousands of books have been written making a very strong case for the involvement of the Central Intelligence Agency, for the involvement of organized crime.
For the involvement of Big Texas Oil, and indeed I make the case that Lyndon Baines Johnson had a unique relationship with each one of them.
Now, let's talk about motive.
First of all, it's important to remember that in 1960, Lyndon Baines Johnson blackmailed his way onto the Kennedy ticket.
In fact, we know that President John F. Kennedy, or in that point, candidate John F. Kennedy, Senator John F. Kennedy, had selected Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri to be his running mate.
He had asked Symington, Symington had accepted and was writing his acceptance speech.
And that night, Lyndon Baines Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn showed up in Jack Kennedy's hotel room in Los Angeles late at night, and they had with them a file, a dossier, on John Kennedy's sex life.
This had been supplied to them by J. Edgar Hoover.
Hoover was a next-door neighbor of Lyndon Johnson's.
He was a close political ally of Lyndon Johnson.
Between 1951 and 1961, the FBI budget had tripled due to the good actions of Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson.
When Lyndon Johnson stole his election in 1948, By a totally disputed and fraudulent 86 votes, J. Edgar Hoover flew down for the victory party at the Driscoll Hotel in Austin.
So they were very close.
And of course, Hoover had his own motive.
He knew he was facing mandatory retirement.
He knew the Kennedys would put him out to pasture in 1964.
So his motive was clear.
In any event, Johnson's message for Kennedy was, you need me, you need Texas, and if you won't put me on the ticket, I'll just take this dossier and I'll give it to Dick Nixon.
Now remember, Nixon and Kennedy were locked in a skin-tight race for president.
So, Kennedy is yours, and he puts Lyndon Johnson on the ticket.
The next morning, a reporter, in shock, asks the Senate Majority Leader, how could you give up one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, the U.S.
Senate Majority Leader, to be Vice President, a job that has no power at all?
And Lyndon Johnson says, you know, I checked, and one in four Vice Presidents have become President of the United States upon the death of the President, and frankly, I'm a gambling man, and I like the odds.
Maybe this is why Bobby Baker, who was the Secretary of the U.S.
Senate, described by Lyndon Johnson as my right-hand man, quote-unquote, says at the 1961 inaugural of Jack Kennedy, John F. Kennedy will not live out his term and he will die a violent death.
This is three years before the assassination.
Johnson is marginalized by the Kennedys.
He is cut out of the decision-making process.
He goes from being one of the most powerful men in Washington to being the least powerful.
He is sent out on the road for funerals and ceremonial meetings with foreign presidents that have no significance.
He is cut out of the loop, as they would say.
But more importantly, in 1963, As the 1964 election approaches, Lyndon Johnson is in desperate trouble.
He is jammed up in two enormous scandals of the time.
The Bobby Baker scandal.
Bobby Baker was, as I said previously, the Secretary of the U.S.
Senate.
He is Johnson's bag man.
He has collected millions of dollars in illegal bribes on behalf of Lyndon Johnson.
He and Johnson are partners in numerous illegal enterprises.
And the U.S.
Senate has opened investigative hearings into Bobby Baker on November 22, 1963, the very day of the assassination.
Lyndon Johnson's neck is on the line.
He also knows that he's under investigation by the U.S.
Justice Department in the matter of Billy Solstice.
Solstice is a flamboyant Texas Wheeler dealer.
He and Johnson have looted multi-millions of dollars from federal agricultural contracts that Johnson has delivered.
Robert Kennedy has a full investigation.
More importantly, Robert Kennedy, who wants Johnson off the 64 ticket, has leaked this information to Time Life.
And Life Magazine has nine investigative reporters on the ground, a veritable hit team, digging into Johnson's background for a December 1st expose issue, an issue that will bring Lyndon Johnson I don't know who it will be, but it will not be Lyndon.
Including from the 64, President Jack Kennedy tells his secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, according to her memoirs, on the eve of leaving for Dallas, he says, Johnson will be off the 64 ticket, quote, I don't know who it will be, but it will not be Lyndon.
He goes on to say that he is considering North Carolina governor Terry Sanford, a moderate, a racial, a southern racial moderate.
So Johnson is a man staring into the abyss.
He can either become President of the United States, or he can go to the federal penitentiary.
And therein lies his motive.
Now finding co-plotters is not all that difficult.
Lyndon Johnson is the appropriator for the CIA.
Lyndon Johnson sits on the secret subcommittee that passes the black box budgets which are hidden in our aerospace budgets.
The CIA cannot doubt the hundreds of millions of dollars being delivered by the appropriator for the military-industrial complex, Lyndon Baines Johnson.
No defense contract in Washington moves without a bribe for Lyndon Johnson.
So Johnson is the godfather of the CIA.
He sits on the Senate committee that forms the CIA.
When he leaves the Senate to become vice president, he helps install Senator Harry F. Byrd, a close Johnson ally, in the congressional oversight that oversees the programs of the CIA.
And then there's organized crime.
Their motive?
They gave one million dollars to John Kennedy.
They stole votes for John Kennedy.
They intimidated voters for him in Chicago, and in West Virginia, and in Texas, and in other states.
And in return, Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, John Kennedy's father, who was a gangster himself, who was a partner of Frank Costello, the notorious New York mobster, essentially importing scotch by boat into Cape Cod trucking it down to New York and sell it, which I think is called bootlegging.
He promises the mob boys for a $1 million contribution and a little help on election day that the two gangsters, Santo Traficante Jr., who runs the mob right here in Florida, and Carlos Marcello, who runs the mob in Texas and Louisiana, will not be deported.
There are slow-moving deportation processes that have begun under Eisenhower that the mobsters are very concerned about.
Well, you know the story.
Robert Kennedy becomes the Attorney General.
He double-crosses the mob.
He puts wiretaps on Marcello and Trafficante.
He harasses them.
He actually kidnaps Carlos Marcello, the notorious gangster, flies him to Guatemala, where he has a phony passport, and dumps him in the jungle wearing nothing but his Brioni suit and his Gucci shoes.
Needless to say, Marcello is not happy.
Indeed, government wiretaps, uncovered by the House Select Committee on Assassinations, pick up both Traficante and Marcello talking about the fact that Kennedy would be killed prior to his murder, and taking credit in the case of Santo Traficante after his murder.
Lyndon Johnson's relationship with the mob?
Why, Carlos Marcello is one of his biggest financial supporters.
Lyndon Johnson takes a $55,000-a-year bribe from the mob to protect their illegal gambling operations from the U.S.
attorneys in Houston and Dallas and San Antonio.
Indeed, within 24 hours of Johnson becoming president, the wiretaps put on organized crime by Attorney General Robert Kennedy are terminated by order of the President of the United States.
There you have it, a little book TV with Roger describing more of the details of his book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
And I'll tell you what, Roger Stone is one of the best storytellers, and he has a mind like a steel trap.
I mean, you look at him up there, he is rolling off facts, and he doesn't have a single note in front of him, which is something that he shared with his mentor, President Richard Nixon, and my distant relative, actually.
One thing that's notable about that is in the sort of mainstream establishment version of history, the narrative of history, Richard Nixon is the villain of that era of the 1960s and 70s.
And in reality, Lyndon Johnson was a complete psychopath who made Richard Nixon look like an altar boy by comparison.
Nixon couldn't come close to the level of corruption And just vile degeneracy that Johnson was almost constantly engaging in.
The man was a serial crook, a liar.
I mean, he just he was really probably the most despicable and evil person to sit in the presidency until probably Joe Biden came along, who I unfortunately have known for almost 40 years, having been a lifelong native Delawarean.
You know, Roger really knows how to lay out the story, and he puts the emphasis on the things that need to be emphasized, and he makes the case, he weaves it together, and it makes the most sense if you know about that era and what went on, and the seedy underbelly that's been sort of whitewashed or been given a veneer of legitimacy.
He really nails it, and he's not afraid to call out
Some of the some of the folks who are the you know who are protected by the the American establishment the the Historians like a Michael Beschloss who is a propagandist really and and I think that's one of the things this book In exposing Johnson and exposing the fact of this high-level plot that killed John F. Kennedy he earned the ire Roger earned the ire of of the establishment of the
The sort of the salon folks at Georgetown, the folks who sit around and believe they rule the world from their little perch in the swamp.
And I think this is just part of why he really, frankly, just pissed a lot of people off and why they had the long knives out for him and have had the long knives out for him for a good number of years now.
Well, speaking of having long knives out, the founder of FrankSpeech.com and of course MyPillow.com has been the subject of immense vituperation and immense criticism.
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Next up, we have a short clip discussing the JFK documents.
In 2018, I believe it was, I drafted a petition to President Trump.
We were trying to get him to go forward with the release of the JFK documents, which had been mandated in 1992 by the Assassination Records Review Act, which created the board.
In this short clip, Roger discusses the The JFK documents with Jason Burmess.
Let's roll that.
So I guess the question now would be, you had Trump come out when he was the president and promised all of us that we were going to get the JFK documents.
He failed on that twice recently.
Joe Biden also punted that football.
My question would be, is if you can't reveal those documents and take on the deep state from 50 plus years ago, how much success will you have in modern times?
Because I think that these historical events Well, as you probably know, I wrote a New York Times best-selling book called The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
I'll be talking about it very extensively on the upcoming anniversary of John F. Kennedy's murder.
Just to be technically correct, Donald Trump actually released about 80% of the previously restricted ...regarding the Kennedy assassination.
For reasons that I don't really fully understand, he held back 20% of the documents.
At the time, we know that the intelligence agencies were claiming that release of those documents would expose their sources and methods.
That's absurd because there's nobody still working for the government who is an officiation of authority in 1963.
Secondarily, if they're covering up the murder of an American president, we need to know what their sources are.
When I asked the president directly what was there, he said, I can't discuss it.
You wouldn't believe it.
It's so horrible.
Someday you'll find out.
That's kind of an incongruous answer.
And then, of course, as you correctly point out, the presidential records, I should say, the JFK Assassination Records Act, called yet again for release in the current year, and Joe Biden kicked the can down the road yet again.
Only the president has the authority to delay the full release of these documents.
That said, in the previous data dump, we learned an extraordinary number of things.
We learned, for example, that the reason that the IRS and the government never released Lee Harvey Oswald's tax records is because it would have showed a W-9 and a 1099 form from the FBI, for whom he had worked as an informant.
We learned that he attended the foreign language school run by essentially the CIA out of North Carolina.
So we learned a lot of very valuable things, but we still do not have the full picture.
Yeah, we don't have the full picture and we don't have control over our intelligence, so-called agencies, intelligence community, as they withhold critical documents on what is coming up on a 60-year-old event, the assassination of our president.
You know, I know Roger has been an advocate as have I for the immediate and full release of everything, but I don't see it ever happening.
I think there's there's some documents in there that they're not a smoking gun.
They certainly do not reflect well on what the CIA has been doing, what they did then, and certainly has been continuing ever since.
Next up, we have a short interview Q&A with my good friend Nick Gillespie at Reason, the Reason Foundation, who's interviewing Roger about the book.
I think he's an amoral psychopath.
and succinct interview and let's roll that. - I think he's an amoral psychopath.
I think he is crude, evil, vicious, vindictive, drunk. - Hi, I'm Nick Gillespie with Reason TV and today we're sitting down with Roger Stone, the well-known political operative and the author most recently of a fascinating new book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ.
Roger, thanks for talking to us.
Great to be here.
So in the beginning of the book you say, you know, to delve into the Kennedy assassination and the 50th anniversary is coming up in a few weeks, is to lay down with kooks and nuts.
Why are you doing this now?
Well, you know, the whole term conspiracy theorist, that's a pejorative.
That's what the mainstream media uses to denigrate anyone who questions the government's version of virtually anything.
Look, I don't believe that UFOs landed in Roswell, New Mexico.
I don't believe the attack on America on 9-11 was an inside job.
I'm really not a conspiracy guy.
So I'm not talking conspiracy, I'm talking facts.
And I think Lyndon Johnson had unique Motive, means, and opportunity to kill John Kennedy.
And I think he participated in a plot to do so.
Okay, briefly outline the case against LBJ.
Sure.
What is fascinating about the book is that it's a rich compilation of existing scholarship and kind of re-synthesized work about really the, you know, kind of disastrous and awful personal lives but also political lives of JFK as well as LBJ.
First of all, I do think he's a serial murderer.
to what, eight murders?
Eight murders prior to John F. Kennedy.
At least eight.
And I'm not including his own sister, who he may have killed, who's buried without an autopsy.
What's the case against LBJ?
First of all, I do think he's a serial murderer.
I think that there is a long trail of murders pertaining to the cover-up of epic corruption.
I mean, corruption of biblical people No question.
I also think he murdered to cover up vote threat theft and fraud with which he got first got to the United States Senate.
And this, I mean, you know, on your ledger in your favor, I mean, there's no question that he rigged that election.
No question.
The landslide Lyndon election.
Yeah, he steals it with 87 fraudulent votes.
People who voted in alphabetical order, amazingly they all had the same handwriting and they all signed in in the same ink.
So, I think that he is an amoral psychopath.
I think he is crude, evil, vicious, vindictive, drunk.
You know, one of the things that is genuinely fascinating about the book is the way that you tie organized crime to Nixon, but especially JFK and Lyndon Johnson in various ways.
Talk about Malcolm Wallace, because he's the guy that you say actually put the bullet into Kennedy's head.
Sure.
Malcolm Wallace is Lyndon Johnson's personal hitman.
Malcolm Wallace has gotten a long succession of federal patronage jobs.
He works at the Agriculture Department at the behest of Johnson.
In 1951, he murders a man named John Kinzer, who was intimately involved with Johnson's sister.
Kinzer is blackmailing Johnson.
He murders Kinzer in cold blood in front of witnesses.
When he's apprehended, he tells the apprehending officer, uh, you can't arrest me.
I have to get back to Washington.
I work for Senator Johnson.
He goes to trial.
For first-degree murder.
He's defended by Lyndon Johnson's personal attorney, John Cofer.
He is convicted.
He gets a five-year suspended sentence and he walks out a free man.
He is immediately hired by a company called Temco, a defense contractor, owned by a fellow named H.D.
Byrd.
H.D.
Byrd also is one of the major financiers of LBJ's career.
He also dabbles in real estate.
He owns the Texas School Book Depository building.
Talk a little bit about, you know, one of the things that's fascinating about Kennedy assassination theories is that everybody has to hustle Lee Harvey Oswald off the stage immediately because Oswald is, you know, an obvious gunman.
He's a Marine.
He defects to the Soviet Union.
He's a Marxist.
He's a pro-Castro guy.
But he's there, right?
He's there that day.
Yes, he's definitely there.
But he's a patsy.
He's the fall guy.
First of all, his communist background is fabricated.
We now know, based on the testimony of at least two CIA agents, that he's trained by the CIA in a defector program.
He goes to Russia, he's there, he comes back, he gets his citizenship back like that, even though he's renounced it.
The American government lends him $5,000 and they pay for his airfare.
Let's talk a little bit about this.
What changes if we fully accept and kind of internalize the idea that LBJ killed John F. Kennedy?
How does that change our understanding of American politics, of history, and of who we are as a nation?
Well obviously at this late date no one is going to try Lyndon Johnson posthumously and convict him of murder.
But I think if my book achieves nothing, if it persuades people that what the government tells you cannot be believed, that anything the government tells you needs to be guarded with a certain heavy dose of skepticism, then I will have accomplished something important.
Okay, and this is published by Skyhorse Books, which publishes a wide range of things.
Some are in the conspiracy frame.
Jesse Ventura is one of their authors.
They do other kinds of various things.
You're going to be doing more books with them.
Talk a little bit about your future.
Yeah, I've got a couple different books in mind.
I'd like to do a book on Hillary Clinton.
I don't believe Chelsea Clinton.
I believe Chelsea Clinton is the daughter of Webb Hubble and Hillary Clinton, and I'm going to try to prove that in print.
Okay, well that, you know, onward and upward.
Yes.
So thank you, Roger Stone.
The new book is The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
It is a fascinating read.
Like I said, I'm not fully persuaded, but I enjoyed every page and I've been flipping back and forth through it.
So thank you very much, Roger.
Thanks for having me.
For Reason TV, I'm Nick Gillespie.
What a character.
He manages to insert That Chelsea Clinton is not, in fact, Bill Clinton's daughter, but Webb Hubble's daughter.
Only Roger could somehow insert that into an LBJ interview with Nick Gillespie, my friend.
Well, I'll tell you, he describes Lyndon Johnson as an amoral psychopath.
And he was.
He was a greedy, ruthless, megalomaniacal, homicidal, just endlessly depraved psycho.
And in other words, he's the perfect Democrat.
He really is the godfather of that party as it exists today.
I mean, his actions Throughout his presidency and throughout his life reflect just that, you know, the state of the Democrat left and the Democrat Party today, which is just, you know, they're absolutely will destroy anything in their path and do anything that it takes to seize and maintain power and to self-deal and to lie, cheat, and steal.
Lyndon Johnson made it into the Senate, as you heard, in 1948 with the Box 13 scandal when they stole the election, and he was thereafter called Landslide Lyndon.
So, you know, I think ultimately, again, John F. Kennedy wouldn't even be, I don't think he'd be a Democrat today.
I think he would certainly be shocked and appalled at what his party has become.
And it certainly is, in my view, again, the progeny, the sort of the legacy of Lyndon Johnson, just one of the worst monsters.
Disgrace the American political stage.
So Roger also he was very upset and disappointed, actually, that he could not do this today.
He'd been looking forward to it.
He had contacted me about it a couple of weeks ago.
We were we were going to put something together that wasn't was more than clips.
And I'm hoping that he will consider actually doing a live show in which we discuss and discuss this topic.
And it's more a little more fluid and organic.
And if he does, it'll certainly be, again, Very informative.
And if you want to get the book, again, great book, Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
You can go to the stonezone.com.
It was a New York Times bestseller.
It's a must have in your collection.
You know, Rogers, I've helped Roger with a couple of different books.
I was the editor of Stone's Rules.
But this one I'd say is his Tour de Force.
This is the one you absolutely should get started if you want to read You know, Roger's works, this is definitely extremely thorough and extremely well documented, and it weaves in his personal history, his own first-hand experience and knowledge with people like Richard Nixon.
And Roger's a great storyteller, as I said, and he really knows how to emphasize and pick out the key facts, not bore you with my details.
Many LBJ authors, because Robert Caro comes to mind with his multi-volume compendium on the life of Lyndon Johnson, which, again, doesn't even expose the underbelly, the degenerate side of Lyndon Johnson, much less implicate him in his many, many criminal activities and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
So going back in time, We're going to look at an ad here that Roger put together for the book at the time he released it.
And I remember going to the conference, one of the JFK conferences that year, and Roger walks in in a big, big 10 gallon hat.
And he had the whole Western, you know, Texas style cowboy get up.
And it was great.
He just, he really knows how to really knows how to put on the show for everybody.
So let's see how he looked running this or doing this ad for the book.
Howdy, welcome back to the Stone Zone.
In November, my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, was published by Skyhorse.
It zoomed to the top of the New York Times bestseller list.
In the book, I use motive, means, and opportunity, as well as fingerprint and eyewitness testimony, to link a longtime hitman for LBJ to the murder of John Kennedy.
Lyndon Johnson had unique and urgent motive in the murder of JFK.
LBJ knew he faced political ruin and annihilation at the hands of Attorney General Robert Kennedy, who had leaked evidence of bribery and corruption by LBJ to Life Magazine, which planned an expose in its cover story of December 1st, 1963.
LBJ also knew that powerful syndicated columnist Drew Pearson had written a column that would have appeared in 700 newspapers on November 24th, exposing LBJ's taking of a $10,000 bribe to fix a defense contract for a Texas company, General Dynamics.
JFK had already told his personal secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, that LBJ would be dumped from the 1964 ticket.
So Johnson was facing not only political humiliation and federal prosecution, but also prison.
LBJ was the linchpin of a plot that included the CIA and their associates in organized crime, with whom they had plotted the assassination of Fidel Castro.
Military intelligence ...intelligence was involved... ...and big... ...Texas... ...JFK... ...repeat... ...Oil Depletion Alliance...
In September, the paperback edition of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, will be released, with two stunning new chapters, outlining how LBJ approached the U.S.S.
Liberty as a pretext for war in the Middle East, and how LBJ stole more than $6 million worth of gold from the United States government.
Stay tuned for the updated edition of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, the case against LBJ.
And thanks for stopping by at the Stone Zone.
Well, there you have it, folks.
It's Roger's tour de force, Man Who Killed Kennedy case against LBJ on this 59th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
And I appreciate your tolerating my standing in for Roger.
I know it's not as exciting when Roger's not here, but I'm Tyler Nixon.
I'm his personal attorney and I could tell you it's been it's been great, really great to work with Roger and we appreciate so much the support from all of you out there for Roger for all of his efforts.
And, you know, we hope to see you again here in the Stone Zone.
And if he agrees, we'll certainly bring you a live again look at the JFK assassination, LBJ's involvement and many more historical tidbits.
So thanks for tuning in to The Stone Zone, and Happy Thanksgiving to you all.
God bless you.
God bless you.
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