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Nov. 16, 2022 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Guest Captain Seth Keshel
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Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
Welcome.
I am I'm Roger Stone, and you are about to enter the Stone Zone.
For the last two years, there have been four sub-ROSA candidacies for presidency going on on a subterranean basis.
That of former President Donald Trump, who's been very clear about his intention to run again.
That of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, That of Vice President Mike Pence and of course, lastly of course, former CIA Director and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
Tonight, President Donald Trump at 9pm at his palatial estate in Palm Beach is expected to announce his formal candidacy.
If the president were to be successful, he would be the first president since Grover Cleveland, who was elected, then defeated for re-election in a disputed election, and then came back to win again.
He would be the second president in history to do that.
But the question we really have to ask ourselves is, does it matter who the Republican nominee for president is in 2024?
Can any Republican win given our rigged and manipulated elections?
That's really the story today because somehow the red wave that we kept hearing about over and over again became a pink drizzle.
The mainstream media doesn't cover this other than their manipulation of the results.
AP is seemingly to lead in their conditioning of people to declare winners before the votes are even there for winners to be declared on the basis of.
It's all very weird.
Joining us now to try to make some sense of it and explain to us exactly what's going on before our very eyes is Captain Seth Ketchum.
Seth Ketchum is one of the leading voices in the country for election integrity, someone I have enormous respect for, and he joins us now.
Roger, I actually prefer the title Prominent Election Denier, as I've been dubbed by the fake mainstream media, but it is good to be back on your show.
I wish we were having the show under better circumstances, but alas, we are at war and we are going to get it right one way or another.
No, you can't have the title of Chief Election Denier because Hillary Clinton still holds that title.
The media just chooses to forget about it.
So this is really, you're right, it's very depressing.
When I learned last night on my way back from a meeting in Miami that the media had declared the election of Katie Hobbs over Carrie Lake, I found this really incredulous.
In other words, Katie Hobbs, Biden style, spent most of the campaign hiding in her basement.
She's a frumpy type that wasn't much of a candidate.
She wouldn't debate.
Carrie Lake was, without any question, I think the best candidate running in the country, and she ran a very good campaign.
Can you explain to us exactly what happened here?
Absolutely.
So, Carrie Lake is symbolically the most important candidate on the national election front.
I would say, tactically, Mark Fincham and Jim Marchant, Secretary of State candidates in Arizona and Nevada, respectively, are the most important tactical pieces, given their roles in uncovering the election corruption.
Now, with Arizona, it's simple.
The massive cheating and midterms in Arizona began in 2018.
There's a very predictable turnout number from 2006 to 2010 to 2014 in Arizona's midterms for governors.
The average number of votes cast is about a million and a half, despite the growth of the state.
And then in 2018 we had 2.4 million votes cast between Doug Ducey and his opponent.
Doug Ducey won convincingly.
And now there's going to be two and a half million cast between Hobbs and Carey Lake.
So that's only up about 750,000 from the previously established averages at midterms.
The mainstream media has succeeded in brainwashing enough of the population into forgetting The political trends associated with midterms, in that they are almost always slanted against the President's party.
Now, that would be, we would expect a major wave in the House, depending on the Senate slate.
Of course, I had 54 to 56 seats projected for the Republican Party in the Senate.
And of course, the key governor's races, they are all critical.
In the 2018 midterms, the Democrat Rust Belt Secretaries of State were put in place.
And they were critical for maneuvering the electoral votes, the Rust Belt, away from Donald Trump in 2020.
Arizona and Nevada also went into that frame of mind.
Georgia also put in Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger in 2018.
So yes, we have absolutely been underneath fraudulent elections to a large scale since 2018.
2020 was not the beginning of this.
And in Arizona, of course, What we had is the 2020 model in play, and the only difference was they didn't call the race for Katie Hobbs right away like they did for Joe Biden.
That was important in order to freeze the Electoral College narrative as Trump marched through the swing states.
That had to be called in order to send the signal to stop the count in the Rust Belt.
Arizona gave you the count.
We heard from everybody.
Don't worry about it.
We have election day ballots that are going to be counted for Kerry Lake, and they're going to go 75-25.
And then gradually, as the days went on, we run out of ballots, and I knew that was going to happen.
Unfortunately, they never even let her have a single lead in which she could have possibly declared victory and crossed the Rubicon over the stolen elections.
Remember, Fox News played a prominent role in that early call of Arizona for Joe Biden before enough votes have been counted to determine that.
So those who examined the Fox and Murdoch networks advocacy for Governor Ron DeSantis may want to keep that in mind going forward.
Then speak to us specifically about the problems in Maricopa County.
I was told that a test that was conducted the night before of the tabulators showed everything working fine.
So what went wrong?
Or what was done?
Perhaps a better question.
There is a report going around.
I consider the activities of the Maricopa Elections Office on Election Day something like a spike strip, knowing that so much of the Republican vote was going to come out specifically on that day because they did not trust mail-in voting.
So there's reports going around that 19-inch paper, ballot paper, was circulated, whereas 20-inch paper had been the norm during early mail-in voting, causing misfeeds Issues with the tabulator at the polling stations, sending those to adjudication.
And now we see, of course, this election day vote which should have been heavily in favor of Kerry Lake and the rest of the GOP ticket coming out as a trickle, like you said.
Barely majorities, 51-48 type vote dumps.
And it is pretty clear to me that they've devised a system in which they can not only see what the bottom is, meaning how many votes does our Republican opponent have, And then they give themselves enough time via destruction of ballots, swapping of votes, machine alteration of votes, adjudication, to surpass that number and do so by 10 or 20,000 votes.
An obvious question.
Looking at it ex post facto, is everything you just said provable?
That's the biggest issue.
Now, if we had full transparency into cast vote records, and this goes hand in hand with Canvas, you would hear somebody like Peter Navarro say, It's the canvas, not the count.
If I handed you $500 bills, you would say that you've got $500 until we pulled the pin out and found out that two of those are fake.
So there's a big difference between ballots and actual votes.
Now there was a huge discovery in VA 7, Virginia 7, in which the Democrat incumbent held on by four points.
And this was after trailing almost the entire evening.
And there was a pretty large machine discrepancy found in the number of total ballots accounted for on the machine tape versus the number of ballots actually found on a hand count.
And that resulted in 22 more votes for the Democrat on top of 500 total ballots cast and only three for the Republican.
So if that is something that is being replicated throughout all precincts and districts, then you have the potential for 10 point or more swings in the total vote count.
Before we leave Arizona, I found it shocking that ABC jumped out and declared that Mark Kelly had won the Senate race.
I also noticed that Blake Masters has not conceded.
Are there, as we sit here today, still uncounted votes in that race?
I'm sure there's a few uncounted votes.
They have reported about 99% complete.
Now that's, of course, up to believing the elections office.
Based on a historical count of presidential turnout plus midterm turnout, it would seem that there's probably not many ballots left.
But of note, the Republican treasurer, the incumbent, Kimberly Yee, she won her race by about 12 points, more than a quarter million votes.
So you'd have to believe that the entire Republican Party voter roll showed up on election day to give the treasurer only a large win of about as many votes as I would expect Kerry Lake to win by, and then of course starve the rest of the Republican ticket in a Biden midterm, which I do not believe.
That would seem to be a level of ticket splitting that defies any kind of logic.
Does Carrie Lake have any, Lee, is there a remedy here?
Is there any court case, any regulatory fight?
What are her options at this juncture?
I think the best option that they could push right now is voter suppression and disenfranchisement.
And that is pretty obvious based on the fact that 30% of machines had issues in various precincts on election day.
They also were not given the relief to have polls stay open longer on election day to account for that, and now we see the race is down to about 20,000 votes.
That is 100% a civil rights disenfranchisement issue, in my opinion, that has nothing to do with the statistics that show what the true nature of this race should have been.
Katie Hobbs had no business being within 10 points of Carrie Lake.
And she also was allowed to preside over her own election, which I find particularly disgusting.
Yeah, that is the most clear conflict of interest you can possibly imagine.
It was raised throughout the campaign, but between the Uniparty, or perhaps I should say, the McCain Republicans, who therefore might as well be Democrats.
And the Democrats.
It boggles the mind that we're still waiting a week later and don't have every single vote counted.
In the state of Florida, which is many times larger than the state of Arizona, we had all our votes counted on election night.
Also true in Texas.
It boggles the mind, unless of course all of this, gee, I don't know, maybe it's being done purposely.
Would Carrie Lake have to bring legal action in the state courts, in the federal courts?
Where would she have to bring such action?
I'm definitely not the right guy to consult on that, but I will tell you the previous precedent based on 2020's challenges is that time is not our friend at this point.
And you realize that over the weekend, the Maricopa elections office said that they were going to stop counting on Friday night.
And then resume on Monday.
Well, guess what happened on Saturday and Sunday?
Here's vote drops.
And then by Monday, they're ready to declare the race.
The exact same strategy that happened in 2020 with Trump versus Biden.
Donald Trump's vote gains in Arizona are of a historic magnitude.
Arizona had been blue one time in seven decades.
And of course, you're going to tell me that Donald Trump loses Arizona and Maricopa County with a record vote She has more votes than Donald Trump won the state with in 2016.
And in a Biden midterm that's going to come up short to Katie Hobbs, I'm not buying that.
And neither are the people in Arizona.
Rasmussen's numbers are showing 62% of Americans believe the cheating impacted the 2022 midterms.
So now we have about two-thirds of the country that doesn't trust election results.
Which really tells me that the electorate is not favorable for Democrats, for one.
And number two is that if we don't get the elections issue reformed, the 2024 presidential race is having to hope that you can outvote significant fraud.
And really, if we're pushing the narrative that we need to get better at ballot harvesting and mail-in voting and early voting, then we're also believing that they're going to not count votes long enough to make sure they win all the key states that appear to have been locked down in these midterms.
Well, it is indisputable that the election law reforms that took place between 2020 and 2022 happened almost exclusively in the places where Republicans were in position to enact those reforms or where the court cases were successful.
So, for example, Wisconsin's disallowance of drop boxes.
Does anyone really think that Senator Ron Johnson would have been reelected had the drop boxes been in place?
Do you have any observations on Wisconsin and its performance in this election?
No, people inside Tim Michael's campaign were telling me that Michael's thought he had it in a narrow victory.
So certainly not looking like a massive blowout.
They had a pretty contested Republican primary up there.
It was a little bit dicey.
But Tim Michael's campaign thought they had it by a point.
And most of the polls coming into the election also favored Michael's.
I think he lost by three or four points.
So clearly they are still mastering the art of ballot harvesting.
And even if the drop boxes aren't prevalent or if they're not there at all, you can still harvest ballots in mass and make sure they're mailed in.
And also, if the machines are corrupted, based on what we saw in Virginia and in other places, then the sky is the limit.
It's easy to tip off any close race or really anything within 10 points.
And because of that, my electoral map for 2024 only gives the Republican Party 176 guaranteed electoral college votes. 176.
Which means they would need 106, they would need 100 plus votes, because 270 is the magic number, as I recall.
Let's talk for a moment, if we can, about Nevada.
I was a lone voice, I think, in conservative media, saying that if Adam Laxalt, who I know and like, whose father, Paul Laxalt, the Governor and U.S.
senator of Nevada, who's a very good friend of mine, went into election day with a two-point lead in the polls that he would certainly lose.
And of course, we have now not only seen that, but you have the anomaly of the Republican candidate for governor, Joe Lombardo, who is in fact really a Democrat, a pro-sanctuary city.
There was no evidence of fraud in 2020.
If you're a deputy, I mandatorily must vaccinate you, Democrat, winning at the same time that Adam Laxol is losing.
What is your analysis of what happened in Nevada or the Nevada election regulatory setup?
Nevada has tons of problems.
Number one, Clark County is too dominant.
Clark County is more than two-thirds of the vote in Nevada.
And together with Washoe County, you're looking at seven-eighths of the vote.
So corrupt two major counties, and you have the same thing you have in Arizona.
You have massive Maricopa County, and then you have second-tier Pima County.
And they completely blanket out the rest of the state.
Now, as far as those races go, Jim Marchant, Secretary of State candidate, was the first one burned up when they started counting the so-called Dropbox ballots.
And I saw that coming, and Laxalt's campaign thought they had the campaign in the bag.
They started putting out tweets saying she's gonna need 63% of the remaining ballots, and guess what percentage she got?
63%.
Give yourself enough time to count all the votes and you will come out on top.
Now, Lombardo, I think that him being ushered into the governor's office is somewhat of a consolation prize to where people can say there's not fraudulent elections Look, the Democrat governor got ousted, and here's a Republican governor in Nevada.
I think that is for the low information election follower out there.
That's a pretty clear thing.
But Nevada should have been a Trump state by about nine points, according to my models, and he should have carried Clark County.
So with that, and combining with the registration trends continuing into the 2022 midterms, more favorable for the GOP in Clark and in the state of Nevada as a whole, In a Biden midterm, there's no way that any of the top of the Republican ticket should have lost their races.
But Laxalt, I'm not sure where he is today on his campaign's position about this race.
But if we continue to allow people to count votes until they win, and they go in lopsided numbers, there's no wonder that people don't trust elections.
Because what we're after is transparency.
And if we don't get the transparency, people will continue to have the distrust in elections.
And I think if you're counting votes beyond Election Day, Look at Alaska.
Alaska has a 30th of the votes that Florida has, and they're still counting.
Ranked voting thing, this should actually be a good opportunity.
Can you explain ranked voting for us?
Because in that race in Alaska, you had essentially two Republicans or one Rhino and one real Republican running against each other.
We know that Mitch McConnell shifted $9 million from Arizona where he could have brought home a Senate race.
To Alaska to try to help Lisa Murkowski, who in her last election was elected as an independent prior to the election law reforms.
She bolted the Republican primary because she couldn't win a Republican primary.
She chose to caucus with the Republicans.
That doesn't make one a Republican.
Explain ranked choice voting for us because when we had the former governor Sarah Palin here on FrankSpeech.com and asked her to explain it.
She really couldn't.
Please explain this to folks.
Sure.
Well, about Ranked Choice Voting, the election in Nevada, with all of its issues, seems to have brought across Ranked Choice Voting with it.
There was a referendum for Ranked Choice Voting, and I'm assuming that that's going to pass based on all the Democrat candidates taking over the Republicans, with the exception of the governor's office.
So, Nevada will also have Ranked Choice Voting, which is a tremendous mistake.
What it is, it's a system that allows multiple So not just the top two, but let's say you've got four people running, like you have Murkowski and Chewbacca up in Alaska on the Republican side, and then you have a Democrat, and then you have, you know, maybe a Libertarian, and they all go into one race.
And people go vote like normal.
And if nobody takes 50% of the vote on the next ballot, which nobody actually shows up a second time, they don't have to go back to have another runoff.
They just go to your second choice.
So if I pick If I pick the Democrat as my first choice, and that Democrat comes in at 25%, and Kelly Chabaka is at 47% but doesn't hit a majority, so if the RINOs that voted for Chabaka's other Republican opponent, like Lisa Murkowski, then they are going to have their votes converted from that Democrat to the person in second place.
So it allows the bottom tier to overtake the person with the highest plurality of votes.
So if somebody gets stopped short of 50%, which is very possible in some of these states like Wisconsin, or in maybe Nevada, where a Republican might win with 48% and a high third party share, that stops narrow Republican pluralities generally, because your rhinos are going to back the Democrat before they back the Republicans.
All right, now let's turn to the state that is maybe just as fraudulent as Nevada, maybe actually more fraudulent.
How did, if you were watching Us here on FrankSpeech.com, when we did our live election coverage, Mike Lindell was actually showing you in real time these ballot drops from the sky out of nowhere in Pennsylvania.
I'm not sure that given the legislative history and the fact that the state legalized mail-in ballots, which are very, very specifically and clearly unconstitutional under state law, It was passed, by the way, by the Republican State Legislature, State Senate, and the lower house, signed into law by a Democrat governor.
Gotta wonder what those Republicans were thinking.
Was overturned by the Commonwealth Courts.
That decision was upheld by the Appeals Court, and then that decision was overturned by the State Supreme Court, which is very politicized.
Therefore, I question, as long as mail-in balloting is in place, to the benefit of the Philadelphia Democratic machine, whether any Republican can win in Pennsylvania.
I agree with those who say that Dr. Oz was probably not the best candidate, but I don't agree with those that say that one of the other candidates would have won given the situation in Pennsylvania.
Tell me what you think.
I think the biggest problem with Republican wins in Pennsylvania and Michigan specifically, including you can throw Wisconsin in there as well and Minnesota, is Donald Trump flanked the battlefield in 2016.
that I think.
I think the cheat was probably set up to impact the 2004 Electoral College map, given that they thought that might be the Republican path to victory.
Trump got enough votes in Florida to pull that.
He pulled North Carolina.
Colorado's gone.
Virginia's gone.
New Mexico's gone, at least in 2016.
And then he went up for Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
He also almost got Minnesota.
He flipped Ohio and Iowa.
So I think that there was a not anticipated blanking maneuver by Trump to pull the non-college white vote that Obama lost, but Romney couldn't pick up.
And once that happened, there's no surprise there anymore.
Just like a lot of the Latino gains in South Texas got reversed in a Biden midterm, I don't think there was any ability to surprise and pick up those House seats.
So once a trend is bucked and then identified that this group is moving this way, then that could be counteracted with phantom ballots and fake harvested ballots in elections.
That's why you have Donald Trump surpassing Barack Obama in Pennsylvania in 2020 by 100,000 votes in a state in which most counties are stagnant or declining in population, but then getting surpassed in the same election by Joe Biden despite a massive shift in Republican Party registration advantage.
So I don't think that it's organic that Republicans can't win right now in Pennsylvania or Michigan.
It's obviously engineered.
And that was done by the 2018 midterms in which Democrats were swept into office in all the key industrial Midwest states.
So right now we are on the outside looking in and that's why it was so critical that Carrie Lake become governor of Arizona so she could blow the top off the election scheme.
Michigan is perhaps the greatest single rat's nest in American politics today.
Half the people wearing Republican jerseys are really Democrats.
The idea that Whitmer was easily reelected.
Boggles the mind, but half the Republicans are working against us.
I can't even begin to sort out who is on which team, because all the Republicans are so busy shooting at each other, they don't reserve any ammunition, political ammunition, for the Democrats.
Yet it's very hard for me, having done and been involved in 12 National presidential campaigns to count 270 electoral votes without Michigan.
It really is is deeply disturbing.
Let's take a look at Georgia, where actually I predicted once again that we would end up in a runoff and here we are.
What was the level of cheating in Georgia on Election Day and why were they not able to put Raphael Warnock at the required 50%?
Under state law to avoid a runoff.
I'm very curious about Georgia because most of the Trump grassroots detest Brian Kemp.
I personally know several people that are Trump types in Georgia who did not vote for Kemp.
And Kemp had a comfortable win against Stacey Abrams, who is considered a liberal icon.
I would assume in an election that the Democrats did well at a lot of the state races, Senate, governor races, that she'd be much more competitive.
And it would be Warnock who got knocked off in favor of a state legend like Hershel Walker.
Now, Walker is weak in Cobb and Gwinnett counties and in the core Atlanta areas, not necessarily urban downtown Metro Atlanta, but just Metro Fulton and DeKalb.
Walker is way behind Trump's vote totals from 2020 in those counties.
So if he's going to run up his vote total, I think he's going to need 2.3 million votes to win.
Then he's going to need to blow it out in the suburban metro Atlanta area.
He's doing pretty well throughout the rest of the state on pace to match what he needs as far as Trump's votes were concerned in 2020.
But Warnock will also be targeting those areas as well.
Warnock is toast in rural Georgia.
But if he can blow it out in suburban Atlanta and metro Atlanta and then benefit from the home team advantage of manipulation of elections, Warnock will likely hold on to that seat.
You sent me a terrific graphic that was kind of the captain's remedy for all of this.
Walk through for folks what we need to do in order to have free, fair, honest, transparent elections in this country.
Do you have the graphic up?
I've got them all in memory.
But the first one is the first point for The 10 steps to true election integrity is to clean out the voter rolls.
That is the foundation of where all the fraud is, especially if it's electronic.
You can just tap into the voter rolls with machines and cast out ballots for fraudulent registrations.
Number two is to ban all electronic elections equipment and go back the way things used to be and hand count these paper ballots.
Number three is to enforce voter ID standards across the board and in every precinct.
Number four is to ban mail-in voting with very few exceptions.
Overseas military legitimately disabled should be the only people voting by mail.
Number five is to ban severely restrict early voting.
The only exceptions are those doctors, nurses, pilots, election workers that can't show up on election day.
Very rarely should people be applying to vote early.
Number six, I should say, drastically smaller So we need to be able to get precinct sizes down to 1,200 to justify moving away from early voting and mail-in voting and moving to one day, one vote.
That's a big issue.
Number seven is to do what Florida has done and ban ballot harvesting and make it a felony.
That's about enforcement as well.
Number eight, election day is a holiday.
That is critical for getting away from all the shortcuts that have sabotaged our elections.
The mail-in voting and the early voting period, which allows for all the harvesting of ballots, particularly fraudulent ballots.
Number nine is reporting requirements for transparency.
So we don't have cities holding out their votes for three days and counting for a week.
And number 10 is heavy prison time for election fraud.
If we put those 10 together, then we will have almost completely clean elections with very little room for manipulation.
So obviously you were watching on election night.
You saw that Republicans won historically sweeping victories here in the state of Florida.
Governor Ron DeSantis re-elected, carrying Miami-Dade, a longtime Democratic stronghold, also carrying Palm Beach County, home county of President Donald Trump.
Neither one of those has happened in decades.
I had a lot of experience here with the great folks at Defend Florida.
I know that our voter lists are not particularly clean.
In fact, I think they badly need to be audited and cleaned.
Yet, perhaps because of the reforms put in place by Governor DeSantis, we didn't have the widespread problems in other states.
To what do you attribute the fact that Florida appears to have had an honest election?
I think that a couple things are in play.
I feel like Florida may have had an organic election in terms of we need to show a massive narrative that is an anti-Trump narrative perhaps, but really the thing that Florida really tells me is how is Florida going to go R plus 16 for Senate, R plus 19 for Governor, R plus 21 for Attorney General, and you're not going to have any ripple effect throughout the rest of the country like in Michigan or Pennsylvania that's going to have any traction with those working classes because Florida is a perfect Political cross-section of America.
You have every type of voter represented in Florida, and you had a massive Republican wipeout.
You would probably assume with a more competitive midterm, you'd see something like you saw in 2018 in Florida.
Highly competitive races.
But that's not been the case for this election.
Now, Florida also cracked back on a lot of things.
Ballot harvesting is a felony.
That's a big deal because the ballot harvesting is the fuel for the fraud behind mail-in balloting.
But by no means does Florida have Completely safe elections.
I agree with that.
I agree with your analysis there.
All right.
I thank you very much, Captain Seth Keschel, a man who has enormous respect here on the Stone Zone with a great analysis of exactly what happened this past Tuesday.
We really have to pray on top of everything else.
I hope you're right about Kerry Lake taking legal action on the basis of constitutional violations and the disenfranchisement of voters.
If people want to follow you on your Substack, even though we have it on the screen, or we will have it back on the screen in a second, tell folks where they can follow you on both Truth Social and follow your Substack.
My Truth Social account is at Real S. Keshel, K-E-S-H-E-L.
And my Substack, which I update regularly with free and paid content, skeshel.substack.com.
All right, folks, I urge you to follow Captain Seth Keshel, who's joined us on the Stone Zone today.
Seth, many thanks for making yourself available and being in the Stone Zone.
You bet, Roger.
Thanks for having me on.
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This is from Jacob in Orange Park, Florida, who says, given the historic role that Fox played in the rise of Donald Trump, are you disappointed now that they seem to be attacking him?
Well, that's revisionist history.
The truth of the matter is Fox Television actually tried to rally behind every other candidate until they finally acquiesced in the nomination and the election of Donald Trump.
At the end of the day, it became a business decision.
You see, Donald Trump's improbable candidacy and the entire seat-of-the-pants, real, genuine, authentic, even hectic nature of it turned into a ratings bonanza.
Meaning when they covered a Trump rally, wall-to-wall, their ratings were off the charts.
When that happens, what it means is Fox can charge more for their paid advertising because there are more eyes watching.
And therefore they ultimately made a financial decision in which president and then candidate Donald Trump got disproportionate amount of airtime because it was financially rewarding for no other reason.
Now what we see is Rupert Murdoch, who I once worked for, is rallying his entire media empire behind an effort to stop Donald Trump.
Uh and their chosen candidate appears to be my own governor, Ron DeSantis.
Whether Ron DeSantis will choose to run or not remains to be seen.
President Donald Trump very clearly intends to announce his candidacy a few hours from now, just up the road in Palm Beach.
I will be there as an invited guest.
I am not privy to his remarks, but I hope he lays out an upbeat, uplifting, visionary speech that shows where he wants to take the country.
It seems to me that a that a comparison of where we are today and where we were just two years ago makes a better case for the return of Donald Trump to the White House than anything else he could say. - Okay.
That is the essence of it.
So, in the end, Rupert Murdoch, the Fox television, these people are not going to choose neither our Republican nominee for president nor the president himself.
That will be done by the primary voters.
Thank you for your question, Jacob.
Here's a question from Bobby in Hershey, Pennsylvania, wants to know, can Trump win again?
What do you think of these polls that now show him running behind Governor DeSantis?
Well, as I've said on the show a number of times, a poll is a snapshot in time.
Poll numbers can be manipulated for a desired result in several ways.
It could be the size and nature of the sample.
The sample may not be a representative sample of those who will be voting, for example, in Republican presidential primaries.
The results of a poll can also be jiggered by the wording of the questions, by the order of the questions.
Those are both traditional.
Also, a poll cannot be taken, as I like to say, in the eye of a storm.
I've seen one poll that shows that Governor DeSantis preferred over former President Trump nationally as the Republican nominee.
One poll does not a trend make.
Your question, can Trump win again?
Trump can certainly win the nomination again.
I still think he remains to be in a commanding position to win the nomination.
He needs to run a smart and Well-funded campaign.
He has to also continue to remain interesting.
I think that there are a number of caveats regarding a potential candidacy by Governor DeSantis.
There is nobody else in this field who matters.
The idea of Mike Pence, you might have seen that trial balloon yesterday.
That is a stone cold dud, as we like to say.
Mike Pence, as someone who sat as a Vice President for four years, is mired in single digits.
I've never seen a poll that showed him with more than 7% of the vote.
If that ABC interview, which aired, how coincidentally, on the eve of President Trump's announcement, was meant to evoke sympathy or to start some kind of groundswell for Mike Pence, well, it failed.
The only people who think Mike Pence is a viable presidential candidate are either on his payroll or they work inside the beltway.
The Pence candidacy is a non-starter.
As I said earlier in the program, there have been four subterranean campaigns for president going on.
Sub Rosa.
Trump has been pretty forthright about the fact that he was planning to run again.
Governor DeSantis has been more cagey.
But in the debate with Charlie Crist, he failed on three occasions to say he would fulfill all four years of his term.
Of course, I think President Trump summed this up and said, well, it's his prerogative.
If he wants to run, he can run.
Then, of course, there is Mike Pence.
Not much to talk about there.
And then there is Mike Pompeo.
Mike Pompeo was the CIA director under Donald Trump, who said that Julian Assange was a, quote, foreign state actor.
In other words, he backed up the claim that Assange was a Russian asset.
Which is entirely false.
Also, if you look at Yahoo.com, there's an authoritative article there, making the case that Mike Pompeo actually planned to assassinate Julian Assange, but failed to get our CIA to do so.
Mike Pompeo is not a MAGA Republican.
Mike Pompeo is an establishment Republican, who early on took the position that he would not run if President Trump was running.
Then he started to fudge, Now he says, well, he'll make that decision down the road.
I really think if Governor DeSantis runs, there is no oxygen for any other alternative challenger.
I think that ends the possibilities for Mike Pompeo.
Thank you very much for your question.
Terry from Fairfield, Connecticut asks, what is Mike Lindell really like?
That's a great question.
Mike Lindell that you see here on the Mike Lindell Show or that you see at any of these Reawaken America Tour speeches or at the Trump rallies, the guy you see on the screen is the same guy you meet in public.
Mike Lindell has an infectious enthusiasm.
Uh, he is a true patriot.
Uh, he is, uh, he is, uh, he's fun to be with.
Uh, he's funny.
He's good natured, but he's also, uh, deeply spiritual.
He's a strong, strong believer in the Lord.
Uh, and then when I have actually on occasion, I've been kind of downcast about things cause things don't seem to be going so well.
It's Mike Lindell who tells you that the Lord will lift us all up.
Overall, he's not only a great marketer, a great entrepreneur, a great businessman, he's also a great guy.
The Mike Lindell you see is the Mike Lindell you get.
Thank you for your question.
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Let's go back to the Ask Stone mailbag.
Let's throw that graphic up for folks so they can see where to send their questions.
There you have it, Ask Stone, stone at stonezone.com.
We appreciate your questions and let's go back to them.
Kinter Set at Da Cozy asks, Mr. Stone, what is your view on Trump running as independent if the Republican primary process gets rigged?
I think it is important to understand that ballot access, actually getting your name on the ballot as an independent, is an extraordinarily expensive, time-consuming, and difficult exercise.
If one were the nominee of the Libertarian Party or the nominee of the Green Party, you would automatically begin with a certain number of states where those parties have already established permanent ballot status, at least permanent until the next gubernatorial election, and therefore you'd have an enormous leg up.
But to run as an independent would require an enormous amount of money and a Herculean physical effort recognizing that the laws in each one of the 50 states were written by Republicans and Democrats working together to keep independents off the ballot.
I also think at the end of the day, uh, that were Donald Trump to bolt the Republican Party the way Theodore Roosevelt, a former president, bolted the Republican Party in 1912 to form the Bull Moose Party, um, it would merely split the more conservative or Republican vote and allow for the election of a Democrat.
Much as the bolting of the party by Teddy Roosevelt, leaving William Howard Taft as a Republican nominee, led to the election of the worst segregationist Democrat to ever serve as President of the United States.
Woodrow Wilson.
Thank you for our friends over at Cozy, though, for that question.
All right, going back to the mailbag, we have time for a few more.
Joshua in Calgary, we have some viewers in Canada, says, I read that Mitt Romney said that it would be a waste of time to investigate the corruption of Hunter Biden and his father.
What say you?
Mitt Romney is beneath contempt.
I mean, first of all, he's only in the U.S.
Senate as a consolation prize.
He went to President Donald Trump in the state of Utah, where his family is from, and he had the president clear the field.
The Republican attorney general there had been planning to run for the U.S.
Senate for some time.
He stepped aside for Mitt Romney.
Mitt Romney received the warm endorsement of Donald Trump.
He won the primary or he won the nomination.
Then he went on to win the general election.
So Mitt Romney owes his Senate seat to Donald Trump.
But just as his father, George Romney, knifed Barry Goldwater in the back in 1964, George Romney was the governor of Michigan, and always aspired to be president himself, so Mitt Romney has knifed President Trump in the back repeatedly.
You'll recall that Mitt Romney voted for one of the articles of impeachment, one of the few Senate Republicans to do so.
Mitt Romney is a fraud, folks.
He believes in nothing whatsoever other than power for Mitt Romney.
You may recall while running for president, he described himself as severely conservative, really.
No one who's actually a conservative would describe themselves that way.
Severely, that would be a negative connotation when conservatism is about liberty and freedom and justice.
So Mitt Romney is a fraud.
He probably can't get reelected if he faces a serious challenge in Utah.
He refused to endorse Senator Lee, the other Republican candidate From Utah, who by the way was handily reelected, Mike Lee, over the opposition of former CIA operative, a cat named McMullen, who's just a weirdo.
The media kept telling us that Mike Lee was in a tough race.
He won handily.
So Mitt Romney is a fraud who will never be president.
You can console yourself with that.
Thank you very much for your question.
Uh, here's a question from Rico in the Bronx.
I love that.
Rico says, I have mastered your Sunday gravy, uh, but I want to know what is your recommended pasta?
Okay.
So for those of you who are not familiar with this, Italian-Americans in a certain region of the country, in the New York, Philadelphia, New Jersey area, refer to what in the rest of the country is referred to as sauce, we call it gravy.
No, gravy does not have to be brown.
We call it gravy, and my sundae gravy is a mixture of One-third ground beef, one-third ground pork, and one-third ground veal in a hearty tomato meat sauce.
I used to have these great cooking videos up on Facebook
Where I walked through every step of the process in making my Sunday gravy, but when my conviction for lying to Congress about Russian collusion that actually never happened, an impossibility if you stop and think about it, was upheld by the appeals court on the very same day a report from some Soros finance group claimed falsely that I had hundreds of fake
Facebook profiles, which I control, that is categorically false, and therefore I was banned for life on Facebook.
Boom!
Down came all of my cooking videos.
No eggplant parmesan for you.
No sundae gravy.
No chicken parm.
No linguine white clam sauce.
I had all these great cooking videos up.
The other night on Cozy TV, somebody suggested it was time to re-record them.
We're going to try to do that.
We might even do it as soon as this weekend.
Now let me go to your direct question.
Since this is a heavy sauce, it needs a heavier pasta, meaning linguine, spaghetti, even penne or rigatoni all work extremely well.
What you want to avoid is angel hair, also known as capellini.
That would be better for a lighter sauce.
But the key to the sundae gravy, not only is a great semolina-based pasta, but also, once again, San Marzano tomatoes.
Not San Marzano style tomatoes.
San Marzano canned plum Italian tomatoes.
Read the label carefully.
If it says San Marzano style, it's a fugazi, meaning it's fake.
It's not a brand.
You can find Cento, several other reputable importers bring these tomatoes into the country.
That is what you need for all of your Italian cooking.
Whether you're making homemade pizza, whether you're making a sundae sauce, whether you're just making a basic marinara, for all of those you require San Marzano tomatoes, not San Marzano style tomatoes.
Thank you very much for your question.
Let's see.
Where can I get this?
This is Terry again.
Terry from Windsor Locks Connecticut asks, where can I get my own Roger Stone did nothing wrong t-shirt?
I saw the picture online of you and your wife with the president and now I want one.
President Donald Trump very warmly greeted my wife and I at his rally in Miami the Sunday before the election.
This is the rally that I think boosted Senator Marco Rubio to victory.
You notice how there's no discussion of Trump's candidate J.D.
Vance picking up a Senate seat in Ohio.
No discussion of Ron Johnson, perhaps the biggest defender of Donald Trump, In the U.S.
Senate, winning a tough race in Wisconsin.
No, the media doesn't want to talk about those things because they're not critical of Donald Trump.
You can get your Roger Stone did nothing wrong t-shirt in several varieties by going to StoneZone.com StoneZone.com At the top you'll find a link for the shop.
Go to the shop.
Also, a box should pop up to take you to the shop.
And you could, there you have it.
Well, this is also Roger Stone Store.
That is still functional.
You can go there as well.
That's where you can get the Roger Stone Still Did Nothing Wrong t-shirt.
So, either go to stonezone.com or go to rogerstonestore.com and you can get the t-shirt.
If you go to the Stone's Own Shop, you can also get your very own signed copy of my unconditional presidential pardon.
This is the pardon the media likes to pretend doesn't exist.
If you go to my Wikileaks page, Wikipedia page, pardon me, it will say, Stone's sentence was commuted.
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Then I had done nothing wrong.
The reason for my pardon.
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I'm heading right now to Mar-a-Lago, the President's palatial retreat in Palm Beach, Florida, where history is going to be made.
And Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States, is going to launch his effort to become the 47th President of the United States.
We will report on it entirely tomorrow, right here at The Stone Zone.
In the meantime, God bless you and Godspeed.
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