Dave Rubin and Donald Trump dissect JD Vance's controversial reaction to Iran ceasefire negotiations, highlighting discrepancies between American and Iranian proposals regarding Lebanon and nuclear rights. The discussion critiques Trump's attacks on NATO's ineffectiveness and shifts to New York's alleged leftist policies amidst stark wealth gaps. Rubin condemns radical Democrats like Hassan Piker for excusing Hamas violence while praising Florida's anti-Sharia measures, arguing that importing extremists undermines national security despite the administration's robust cabinet. Ultimately, the episode warns against internal subversion while questioning the future of U.S. alliances and domestic cultural cohesion. [Automatically generated summary]
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And of course, today, obviously, we're catching up on all of the ceasefire stuff, a little bit of the craziness out of New York with their communist Islamist mayor, and a whole bunch more.
So, first, let's dive into the ceasefire stuff.
And as I said yesterday, Look, there are papers.
There are papers being shuffled back and forth between America, Iran.
Some of them are stopping in Pakistan right now.
They're probably bouncing around to some other countries.
We know Iran agreed to a 10 point plan.
We had put out a 15 point plan.
So there's at least five points that are just off the table at the moment.
Things that are kind of half being agreed to.
Also, don't forget, and there was some confusion over this yesterday, a lot of this stuff can get lost in translation because things are written in a certain way in Arabic or maybe even in Farsi and then they can be written differently in English and translated differently.
Just been a little bit of a cluster.
Things have calmed down a tiny bit, but let's just get you caught up.
So, this is from M.B. Golaboff, who is the Speaker of the Islamic Republic of Iran's Parliament.
So, this is like a fourth tier guy now who's involved in the negotiations.
And he says this statement on the violation of three clauses of the 10 point proposal, the agreed framework, before the start of negotiations.
The deep historical distrust we hold towards the United States stems from its repeated violations of all forms of commitments.
A pattern that has regrettably been repeated once again.
As the President of the United States has clearly stated in his truth, the Islamic Republic of Iran's 10 point proposal is a workable basis on which to negotiate and the main framework for these talks.
However, three clauses of this proposal have been violated so far.
One, non compliance with the first clause of the 10 point proposal regarding a ceasefire in Lebanon, a commitment that Prime Minister Shabazz Sharif has also explicitly referred to and declared as an immediate ceasefire everywhere, including Lebanon and other regions, effective immediately.
We'll have more on that in a second.
Two, the entry of an intruding drone into Iran airspace, which was destroyed in the city of Lahr in Fars province, in clear violation of the clause prohibiting any further violation of Iran airspace.
Three, denial of Iran's right to enrichment, this is the big one, which was included in the sixth clause of the framework.
Now, the very workable basis on which to negotiate has been openly and clearly violated even before the negotiations began.
In such a situation, a bilateral ceasefire negotiations is unreasonable.
When a ceasefire is agreed to, and they're just sort of here's our plan, here's your plan, there's going to probably be, and this is why it was a two week ceasefire.
There's going to be some back and forth on the language and everything else.
Now, the Americans are now saying that Lebanon had nothing to do with this.
Hezbollah, which is an Iranian proxy, has been raining down rockets on Israel since October 7th.
And I think something like 300,000 Israelis haven't been living in their home for years now.
And they've had to move south.
And Israel's taking care of that.
Israel's saying that has nothing to do with this.
America's saying that has nothing to do with this.
Iran is saying it does.
That's one point.
The nuke stuff and the material.
That's a major sticking point.
Here's a bit more.
And really, you know, I played a couple videos of JD yesterday, really showing that, you know, obviously he's not 100% purely in line with Trump on all of this.
He has a slightly different take on foreign policy, let's say.
But he's been an extremely good communicator.
And more importantly, he's been a good team player about this.
And he's going out there and explaining the president's position, which is what his job is.
He's not sandbagging him, he's not undercutting him, et cetera.
Here he is responding to what I just read you.
Right there.
So, this is more of the American position on the Iranian problems with the agreement.
First of all, he said that there are a few points of disagreement before the negotiation.
Well, that must mean that there's a lot of points of agreement because there's a 15-point plan floating around.
There's a 10-point plan floating around.
If he's frustrated about three issues, that actually means that there's a lot of agreement.
That's point number one.
Point number two, to respond to each of those issues, and I read it very closely, let me just say this.
I actually wonder how good he is at understanding English because there are things that he said that, frankly, didn't make sense in the context of the negotiations that we've had.
But to address the three points, first of all, he talked about an attack that had allegedly happened on Iran and how that was a violation of the ceasefire.
Ceasefires are always messy.
An hour after the president announced the ceasefire, the Iranians launched a bunch of missiles.
Then the Israelis responded.
Then some of the Gulf Arab states responded.
This is the nature of a ceasefire.
No ceasefire ever goes without a little bit of choppiness.
Yeah, okay, so we're going to have a little bit more from JD on that.
But he's making a couple points there.
First off, the points don't exactly match.
A 15 point plan and a 10 point plan.
You know, there's going to be some discrepancy there, right?
Even if 10 out of 10 are matching, there's still five that are outstanding, and the 10 out of 10 don't fully match.
He makes the point that I made about translation.
Quite literally, when they're translating the documents, certain words are interpreted different ways.
Like, this is not just some easy thing, like, here you go, here you go, let's get going.
Uh, and finally, ceasefires are messy.
Yeah, you know, people have pointed out, I think I said this yesterday, that so much of the Iranian military has been destroyed that the command and control has been completely obliterated.
So there might literally be a guy Somewhere outside of Tehran with a missile launcher, just pressing a button who hasn't even heard yet because the internet's out that the ceasefire kicked in, right?
Here's a bit more.
Oh, and then we'll address the Lebanon stuff and everything else.
The second thing Goliboff said, which again I found fascinating, is he said, We refuse to give up the right to enrichment.
And I thought to myself, you know what?
My wife has the right to skydive, but she doesn't jump out of an airplane because she and I have an agreement that she's not going to do that.
because I don't want my wife jumping out of an airplane.
We don't really concern ourselves with what they claim they have the right to do.
We concern ourselves with what they actually do.
And I think the president's been very clear on the enrichment question.
Our position on that has not changed.
Look, if Iran wants to let this negotiation fall apart in a conflict where they were getting hammered over Lebanon, which has nothing to do with them and which the United States never once said was part of the ceasefire, that's ultimately their choice.
We think that would be dumb, but that's their choice.
Okay, again, he's a really good sort of more granular communicator over what Trump's policies are.
Two points there right to enrich.
We're saying they don't have it, they're saying they do, but as JD points out, kind of irrelevant.
The word right here is kind of irrelevant.
We are not going to let them do it, and we're the party in power.
If, after a peace deal is signed, they want civilian nuclear power, there's ways to bring in that material, but they can't enrich to the level of being able to make a bomb.
Everyone knows that.
That's what this thing has been all about.
They can say they have that right and want to do it, but clearly, I mean, JD is that.
It seems like he's completely in line with Trump on, like, you just can't, buddy.
You just can't.
Ousha's not jumping out of a plane, and you're not going to have a nuke.
That's the other thing.
Then on the Lebanon front, the deal does not, the American deal does not include Lebanon, period, right?
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization paid for by Iran that's running Lebanon.
When you think of Lebanon, you think it's a state, like it has a government, and it's a state like most other states.
Except it's not.
It has basically a failed government and a terrorist organization running it that's lobbing rockets into Israel.
If they would stop and retreat, well, then Israel would stop.
So what Jay Z is saying there is this has nothing to do with that.
That's been going on well before all of this.
And if you guys are going to blow this up over Lebanon, blow this up.
If you guys are going to end this agreement over Lebanon, well, good luck with all that.
Here's Donald Trump on truth.
Numerous agreements, lists, and letters are being sent out to people that have absolutely nothing to do with the USA Iran negotiation.
In many cases, they are total fraudsters, charlatans, and worse.
They will be rapidly exposed after our federal investigation is completed.
There is only one group of meaningful points that are acceptable to the United States, and we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these negotiations.
These are the points that are on the basis on which we agreed to a ceasefire.
It is something that is reasonable and can easily be dispensed with.
It's very much like fake news CNN last night, headlining a source that had no power or authority to write a letter claiming great authority, President Donald J. Trump.
So we referenced that yesterday that he was calling out CNN. for publishing some fake version of the ceasefire.
But again, this is where I would say I have no more insight in this than you do or your friends do or Tucker Carlson or anyone else.
All we can do is report, is hear the information directly from the source, which in this case is the United States government, and I suppose we can hear it from the Iranian government, and then we can compare those things and try to analyze it to the best of our ability.
However, it is very obvious that a lot of misinformation is flying about this.
Here's Caroline Levitt cleaning up a bit around the Strait of Hormuz.
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Follow up on the attorney.
Why would the U.S. allow Iran to collect tolls in the Strait of Permanence?
That's not something that we've opposed for a number of years now.
Okay, so that's something we are going to hold them to.
So it opened up a little bit over the last couple days, and we will see.
There's all these rumors about whether there are going to be taxes around it.
Trump, obviously, we'll have more on this in a second, Trump wants to now hopefully create some sort of partnership, kind of like we did when we got Maduro out of Venezuela, and now we have access to Venezuelan oil, we're exerting American influence again.
He would like some sort of partnership with the new regime in Iran that would be beneficial for both of us.
It's also worth noting, because I saw so many people yesterday screaming about, oh my God, there's going to be taxes in the Strait of Hormuz, and what's this going to do to the American economy and everything else.
It should be noted that 500, we just checked this.
500,000 barrels of oil go to the U.S. from the Strait of Hormuz, which is only 7% of our crude oil imports.
So, not only are we drilling again, thanks to Trump, so we are less reliant on foreign oil, we also have access to Venezuelan oil right now.
And we just don't need that much.
We just don't need that much from Iran that's going to go through the Strait of Hormuz.
80 plus percent of that oil goes to Asia.
So, if these tolls that they're talking about, this tariff that they're talking about, Via Iran goes into effect, you know who's going to pay for that?
It's China.
So, again, this is where I think Trump deserves a little bit of our trust.
Here's a little bit more from Trump.
All U.S. ships, aircraft, and military personnel with additional ammunition, weaponry, and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded enemy will remain in place in and around Iran until such time as the real agreement is reached and fully complied with.
If for any reason it is not, which is highly unlikely, Then the shooting starts, bigger and better and stronger than anyone has ever seen before.
It was agreed a long time ago, and despite all the fake rhetoric to the contrary, no nuclear weapons and the Strait of Hormuz will be open and safe.
In the meantime, our great military is loading up, resting, looking forward actually to its next conquest.
Or is it so you show some posturing in the world and you say, we will enter negotiations and if they fail and if you don't come closer to our positions, we might have to start shooting again?
If only Donald Trump had written a book 40 years ago where he told you exactly what his plan was when it comes to negotiating and that you've got to scare the other guy a little bit, as we pointed out several times yesterday.
Let's also talk about the economic version of all of this because at some point, whether it is today or tomorrow, unlikely, whether it is in two weeks, maybe more likely, or in three months from now, the bombs are going to stop.
This is not going to go on forever.
That's not how wars work anymore.
And there's going to be an economic, a new economic situation on the horizon.
Yeah, and I think about this if you knew with certainty that you'd get through and you had to pay a price, insurance premiums would come down.
All the other important waterways, such as the Suez Canal, Panama Canal, we don't have rogue nations controlling those.
So there's a cost to get through with certainty.
I think the market would be willing to pay for that.
And that could also fund what Iran's going to need to rebuild the infrastructure they've lost.
It depends if they really want peace or not.
If they don't, there still could be a tithe, but it would be for the nations that care the region, UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and of course the Chinese and Singapore and Japan.
They'll all pay.
And if it's five or six billion dollars a month, it's nothing compared to the value of stability in getting 21% of the world's oil through that strait.
I like this outcome.
I don't like war, but this tells me the region's coming back big.
But sometimes you need a little war, you need a little threat of violence, and sometimes occasional violence to leverage in a better outcome.
And what he's saying right there is if, in the end, if this new regime is willing to play ball with the United States and the world feels more stable, that is great for everybody.
And if there's going to be some version of a tax that goes through this to keep some of that stability, he's saying even that would be worthwhile.
And as I just pointed out, much of that tax would have nothing to do with the United States.
Because we don't get much of our oil from them.
He also, just one other clip from O'Leary here, he also pointed out that in some sense, this war, and I've sort of talked about this a little bit, I keep saying that this has been sort of the last conventional war in a certain way.
Like the wars of we're going to send massive aircraft carriers, tanks rolling into places, which didn't happen this time, that everything's going to be done via F 35 fighters and everything else, that actually is coming to a close one way or another.
Of a new world, one way or another, the idea that true, let's look at it this way.
In the old days, D Day, you're going to send hundreds of thousands of troops into a foreign country to fight.
Why would you do that in the future once robots are fully here and they can be controlled by some centralized system and you don't have to risk human life?
Why would you be flying planes with pilots living human beings in them when drones can be doing all these things?
How will all of that be run?
Well, you're going to need The best AI systems, you're going to need the best AI data centers and everything else.
So that is what we are on the next, we're on the threshold of.
And again, this is where to me it seems like what Trump has been trying to do here is realize that the clock is ticking on.
Trumpism, one way or another.
Hopefully, whoever comes after in the Republican Party will take as much of it as of that vision and that fortitude and everything and move forward with it.
But he's realizing the clock is ticking.
It may only be till November, in effect.
Hopefully, we've got two and a half more years of it.
But he's trying to reorder the world as quickly as possible so that the globalists don't win, so that sovereign nations get their borders back, and that America has positioning in the world as the world's last remaining superpower, which it should, which brings us to the next point here.
About NATO, this untruth from Donald Trump.
NATO wasn't there when we needed them, and they won't be there if we need them again.
Remember Greenland, that big, poorly run piece of ice?
President Donald J. Trump.
Now, to point out how NATO was not there, you know, we're in this NATO, we have NATO allies.
It's a lot of these countries in Europe, and the idea is if anyone in NATO is attacked, we will all defend them.
It's also, over the years, come to be something of which we pay virtually all the money for, we do all the military stuff for.
Usually, our allies, you know, they Put mealy mouth statements out or a piece of paper saying, Yeah, US can do whatever it wants.
But NATO, there's all these people that think NATO means something.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's just whether the United States is willing to do something in the world.
You may like what the US is doing or not, but NATO in and of itself is nothing.
For example, we got this image.
This is how we had to send pilots.
Do you see this?
We could not go over Spain.
So Spain did not allow us to use their airspace.
So we had to fly over Spain to get to Iran.
This is when we were rescuing.
Those pilots.
Now, as Trump pointed out, we showed you the video a couple days ago.
We could have just flown over if we wanted, could have done it.
We could have just landed on bases in Spain, and what the hell is Spain going to do to us?
But his point is okay, UK, you haven't gotten involved while we're trying to face the world.
By the way, Iran's ballistic missiles would be more likely to hit you than us.
Okay, France, you're going to put out some ridiculous statement.
Like, he's rethinking how all of these, you know, in essence, 70 plus year old organizations work.
Here's Trump talking about NATO and, well, if it's going to have a future.
And then what Trump is realizing is there are other countries in the world, some of whom are not NATO allies, like Israel, Argentina, et cetera, that he wants to play ball with because they're sovereign nations who will stand up for themselves.
And when you'll stand up for yourself, that's what Trump likes.
If Trump was doing a business deal, Oh, you're a functioning businessman who's taken care of your house, you have your things in order.
Let's go build something together.
It's so freaking obvious, it's ridiculous.
But Trump has now basically said, NATO, you're done.
And NATO, they have no leverage here.
You have to understand, what can they possibly do?
So interestingly, the head of NATO right now is former Prime Minister of the Netherlands, Mark Rutt, and he met with Secretary of State Marco Rubio yesterday.
But at the same time, I was also able to point to the fact that the large majority of European nations has been helpful with basing, with logistics, with overflights, with making sure that they lift up to the commitments.
And there is also widespread support for the fact that degrading the nuclear.
And the ballistic missile capacity from Iran was really crucial.
So, because Trump has now applied this pressure, he's going, yeah, Trump is making some points, and yeah, some of us opened up airspace, not all of us, and then at the end, and yeah, we've all come around to the idea that degrading Iran's capabilities was good.
Except the point is, they were never going to do anything.
And that's what Trump has had it with.
We had to drag U.M. efforts into this thing.
Kicking and screaming.
We have to pay for it.
We have to do the dirty work.
Your pain's in the butt when it comes to opening your bases and your airspace.
And again, in the case of Spain, you didn't even do that at all.
Like, they should be kicked out altogether.
What leverage do they have?
None.
Literally none.
They have a communist prime minister right now.
Like, go have fun with that.
And you can see, right, and we'll have a little more from him in just a second, he's basically coming to Trump's position.
It's very obvious in that he does not want to piss off Trump.
Hegseth yesterday gave a press conference where he also listened to his use of so called allies here.
That's an aside in this case, because what he's really sticking it to is all of the guys, for him to say so called allies.
You know, that's a pre written speech.
So he could have said, and our allies really failed us, but he went out of his way to say so called allies.
And I think Trump is clearly signaling that NATO is coming to a close.
Mark Root continued on Tapper, and Tapper really wanted to get him to throw Trump under the bus because of some of the rhetoric around the tweets or the truth social posts over the last couple of days.
Well, you know, what I always say when it comes to what leaders are saying, I'm not commenting on everything.
What I want you to know is that I support the president and I know large parts of Europe do when it comes to taking out the capacity of Iran to export chaos to the region, to Europe, to the whole world.
They are one of the main enablers of Russia's war effort in Ukraine.
To Israel, if they would get their hands on a nuclear capability.
It is great to try to negotiate it away, but we also always knew that with North Korea, it took too long, and then North Korea had its hand on a nuclear, and then you cannot negotiate any longer, and they have that power.
It's a report that is both coupled with a true cost of living report that the inequities in this city, the racial inequities, are stark.
We are talking about findings that have shown that.
The wealth of a median white household in the city is more than $200,000, while that of a black household is less than $20,000.
This is not an indictment of any one New Yorker.
It is an indictment, however, of policies and politics that have persisted for far too long.
Our commitment now is to act upon these findings, to do so in concert with New Yorkers' comments, as we've now opened a public comment period for the next 30 days to ensure that we have a city where we are reckoning with the long history of racism here and starting to act upon a framework that puts equity right at the center of it.
Guys, there was a study, and now that they've got the results of the study, they're going to have a public comment section for a month where people can say that they want other people's money, and then he'll put it into law.
First off, okay, so he's telling you that the racial inequity in the city is that white households make over $200,000, which, by the way, if you make $200,000 living in New York City, that is actually not a lot of money.
Probably do not live in some fancy doorman building in a great neighborhood at $200,000.
Like, you really don't.
I mean, try to imagine $200,000 after federal taxes, after state taxes, after New York City tax, blah, blah, blah.
You don't have much left.
That's one thing.
But he's saying that black families have less than $20,000.
Now, let me just pretend that his study is not faulty.
Let's just pretend the study is true.
If it is true that black families in New York City have less than $20,000, But somehow they live in New York City.
Do you think that maybe that has to do something with all of the faulty welfare programs that you've allowed all of this nonsense with subsidized housing and you've kept people on EBT and all of these food subsidies and everything else, which has kept people into generational poverty?
Do you think it has something to do with that instead of, I don't know, creating the conditions via low taxes and low regulation that would allow more people to build businesses and do things that they want to do and allow market value to compete so that builders want to come in?
And overall, then you get more, you get prices deflated on housing.
It's all because of Democrat policies.
And the irony is the places, except for the little blip that we had with Rudy Giuliani, and then Bloomberg was a Democrat and Republican, he was a little bit of everything, but largely kept the sane Giuliani policies in place.
It's a Democrat run city.
It's like all these other Democrat run cities where all hell's breaking loose and they're telling you racism is everywhere and everything else.
Chicago, Detroit, they're all run by Democrats for decades, so you might.
Want to get a mirror, but whatever.
And again, this use of equity that now they have just fully embraced.
The socialist wing, which is basically the entire party right now, has fully embraced equity over equality.
Equality, equal opportunity.
Go get yours.
Let's see what happens.
Pursue happiness.
Pretty good.
American dream.
Equity.
We are going to make you, via artificial means, we are going to make you equal, which means we are going to take.
I swear to you, I remember watching that live from my apartment on 90th and 1st, a block away, ironically, a block away from Gracie Mansion, where Zorhan Mandani now lives.
And that is what you might call globalizing the Intifada, something that Zorhan is all about.
So he can walk around and he can high five people, and people can come over and glaze him.
Oh my God, you're the best.
You're raising taxes on everybody.
And they're all fleeing the city, and we're going to live here with rats and zombie people, and it's going to be great.
Or maybe they could have brought Rudy Giuliani back, but they didn't do that.
Here is Rudy on what he'd be doing if he was mayor today.
One way to visualize it is there are somewhere between 7,000 and 8,000, 9,000 people walking the streets of the city today that would be sitting in jail if I were the mayor or Bloomberg were the mayor.
But you can see the way they're, they're flipping everything right now.
They want to be the ones to protect free speech and academic freedom.
What they mean is they want Hamas supporters to run around with masks calling to, for river to the sea and stop other students from going to class.
That's exactly what they mean, right?
They want to, and by the way, you believe in free speech.
They want to be able to shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them.
100%.
Then he also talks about bringing DEI back.
Again, woke is not dead.
Uh, and that trans healthcare.
Because there's nothing an Islamist loves more than trans healthcare.
Like, if you, Are one of these queer, furry morons, and you are voting for these people, they're going to behead you, okay?
Like, they're going to behead you.
They're going to behead you.
Whether they do it tomorrow or the next day is largely irrelevant.
Anyway, this Abdul El Sayed, he hopped in a car with, we've shown you some videos of this guy, Hassan Piker, who, again, I used to work with at TYT.
He is an absolutely horrible human being.
He has celebrated the 9 11 attacks, he has told his audience, we've played video of it a couple of times, His audience on Twitch streams, which is young kids basically, video game streams, how they can build drone bombs so that suicide bombing won't be necessary anymore.
He went to China and talked about how much he hates America and he isn't proud to be an American.
Anyway, here's just a bunch of, well, I'm going to say it, retarded slop.
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Most people are still carrying a lot of white supremacist resentment that they've learned from their social conditioning, from their upbringing.
And that's obviously a much larger problem.
Poverty because we gotta end poverty.
We gotta end racism because we gotta end racism.
But if we fail to end racism, we won't end poverty.
And if we fail to end poverty, we can't end racism.
And so, like, those two things are mutually inclusive as problems.
And it is absolutely critical that we ask, like, what are the interventions that we can create that help to address both of them?
And I think that for Americans in America, sometimes it's hard to admit that.
But the work that we're actually going to have to do to get us out of this moment, to build what comes next, is going to take us having difficult conversations, going to have us going through tension, demonstrating what courage looks like, demonstrating what it means to be an elected official or a candidate who stands for something, who fights for something, who brings these people all deserve each other.
But they are here for the communist takeover, right?
We're in a fascist country right now.
No, we're not in a fascist country.
You know, when we were on the verge of a fascist country, it's actually when the Democrats were in charge because Joe Biden admitted during COVID, the Biden administration fully admitted that the government was working with big tech, government corporations working together to quite literally silence the American people around COVID.
That actually was the textbook definition of fascism.
That is the reverse of what is happening right now.
But I would say to the Democrats, you should stick with this Hassan Piker guy.
Sure, 9 11 was good.
Sure, what did he call for?
Blood in the streets was something.
I forget what the context was on that one.
Sure, have the kids build suicide bombs.
Okay, keep attaching yourself to this guy.
That's a great idea.
And dare I do it?
But Dana Bash, not one of my favorites, she did call him out fairly effectively.
Here's some of what he actually has said about the depravity of the October 7 terror attack, the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
Quote, it doesn't matter if effing rapes happened on October 7th.
Guys, I want to be clear about why I'm showing you these clips.
I don't think you have to care about this guy that much.
Again, like, I knew him.
He was a horrible person, like a really horrible person.
Again, he was literally harassing all the girls at the office to the point they had to just tell him to work from home.
He's a grotesque human being.
The reason I'm showing you these videos, and I'm not outraged by any of this, and he can say whatever the hell he wants.
The reason I'm showing you this is he is being wholly imported into the new Democratic Party right now, right?
We know over the years they have pushed out all of the moderates, all of the moderates, the Tulsi Gabbard types, Bobby Kennedy types, they all became part of MAGA.
So they pushed out a certain set of people.
Basically, the classical libs.
And they are importing now the radicals.
So I would say to Ro Khanna, who's completely tied himself to this guy, good luck with that.
Keep going with this, Democrats.
Like, if you think this is what the future of America is, that is what you think, you are here to topple and end all of it.
Keep attaching yourself to 9 11, America deserved 9 11.
Keep attaching yourself to globalized the Intifada.
Keep attaching yourself to all of these radical things, and we'll see what happens.
And maybe you will be right.
And that would be horrible for America.
But in that I don't want the Democrats to win and I still have faith in America, we shall see.
Here's my buddy Clay Travis calling out El Sayed, the Michigan guy running, because he's a fan of the Ayatollah, who wasn't a great guy, to be quite frank.
Leave aside whatever Piker may or may not have said.
We know El Sayed, this came out, and I think it should be a bigger story than it was.
He on tape was caught discussing with his top advisors the fact that he didn't want to talk about us killing.
The Ayatollah in Iran, because too many people that would otherwise support him were upset about the fact that the Ayatollah was gone here in the United States.
I think Mike Rogers is the Republican candidate here, and I would encourage Democrats to go out and support El Sayed, to get behind everything that Hassan Piker has said about not loving America and believing that Jewish people are responsible for what happened on October 7th.
Because guess what?
The average swing voter in Michigan is not going to respond well to this, Harris.
And I guess it will ultimately be a test on where the average American is at over time, right?
You're going to have your people that are always going to be Republicans.
You're going to have those people that are always going to be Democrats, right?
But that average person in the middle, which who knows what percentage of Americans that is at this point because everything's kind of upside down, will the average American be like, you know, that guy, he said that America deserved 9 11.
Kind of really obsessed with Islam, but also love the gays.
How's that going to work out over time?
I think eventually this stuff will start shaking out and sensible people will wake up.
But good luck with all of that.
I would like to contrast that with the free state of Florida, where just yesterday Ron DeSantis decided to ban the Muslim practice of marrying your cousin.
Now, there's some other things that were part of this package that we may need to add in upcoming because I think there were some things that really needed.
I mean, for example, you know, Florida doesn't ban cousin marriage.
And that's an easy, that's a hanging curveball for us to do.
There's a piece of legislation around it, and he did just over the last couple of days sign a sweeping bunch of things related to banning Sharia law in the state.
And then, of course, at the end of the statement there, he says, look, culture matters.
Stop importing people who are wildly against your values.
And unfortunately, Particularly if the Democrats ever become, you know, get power again at the federal level, which eventually will happen, we have to keep doing this at the state level.
Every state has to keep strengthening itself and defending itself and inoculating itself, I would say, from the disasters that the Democrats could bring at the federal level.
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All right, RubenReport.locals.com community Q&A.
Joseph is at the computer with the internet apparently.
It's flying through the air.
And if you'd like to get a question in on the fly, we'll see if we can make that happen.
Elizabeth says, Does Crochet Dave get to participate in Tequila Thursday with his tiny bottle of Copala?
Now, Elizabeth, you have sent me some wonderful crocheted things over the years, including Clyde and versions of Dave.
And this guy, by the way, he's normally in the, well, one of them stays in the studio and one of them is normally in the family room and he fights with Megatron, Django Fett.
Sometimes he rides a car, does all sorts of things with the kids.
Dave Rubin with the Copal bottle, which you did send us, we think Clyde either ate or buried.
So, if you'd like to send us another one, I would love it.
We'd be thrilled for that.
We had a Dave Rubin that had a little bottle of copal.
He was just holding Dave with a little tequila right here.
And I think Clyde, you know, he's a dog.
He doesn't get the attention he does now with the kids.
Chipster says, Do you think that all people related to IRGC members should be deported or imprisoned?
You know, this is an interesting question.
We didn't cover this, but, you know, there's been a few stories in the last few days.
About how there are quite literally like nieces and nephews and cousins of IRGC members, meaning members of the old regime in Iran, who are wandering around in the United States.
And of course, there's pictures of this girl, I forget, it's one of their nieces, and she's like running around in a bikini, so she in America can enjoy all that stuff while they keep the women in bags over in Iran and all of the hypocrisy.
And okay, so the question is should they be arrested?
Well, look, if they're citizens, and this is where we're going to constantly have a struggle now going.
Forward, and you could connect this to what we just showed you out of Michigan.
If you have people that are citizens of your country, legal citizens, I'm not talking about temporary visas.
Yeah, if you're on a temporary visa and you're like cousins with someone who's a terrorist, I don't know, you could probably just boot them.
We can have that discussion.
The bigger issue that we are going to have to confront is that we now have, we just don't know how many, how many citizens in this country are here to undermine the system, are here to usher in communism or jihad, or don't care about our founding documents, would gladly have this whole thing upended and everything else.
I mean, you have Mandami, like a guy swore in on the Quran and is now running New York City counter to every idea that made America great, truly, over the last 250 years.
So, that to me is what the bigger issue is.
You know, even if, even look, we have our border under control, and even if Trump was tripling the amount of deportations, which seems to have slowed down right now, but even if he was tripling that, that still doesn't deal with probably what the stickiest issue is, which is the people that are legally here who are using all of our freedoms.
To try to destroy us.
That's why what that guy did, the opener at the El Sayyad thing, are you for free speech?
Are you for academic freedom?
It's like, you guys are using that.
You're using our freedoms to ultimately upend us.
You think when the Islamists and the jihadists have power, they're going to be like, okay, queers, tell us what you think.
No, no, that's not how it works.
Glenn says, do you or have you ever believed in conspiracy theories like Artemis 2 lunar trip is a hoax, September 11 tax for an inside job, Apollo 11 moon landing was a hoax, QAnon, et cetera?
You know, I think I have a little bit of a built-in defense or force field against conspiracy theories.
I like them.
I really do like conspiracy theories.
The movie JFK with Kevin Costner and this great freaking cast.
John Candy is in it.
He has a little cameo in it.
It's a great movie.
One of his only non-comedic roles.
It's basically a conspiracy, the movie.
It's a conspiracy theory, the movie.
It's Oliver Stone laying out what his theory is around the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
It's about the trial.
I love the movie and I love thinking about those things, right?
I really do.
But I've mentioned this quote.
It's probably my favorite quote of all time from the great Carl Sagan, which is extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I think one of the things that's happening to the internet right now, now that we're 20 years into social media and that the mainstream media has been so derelict in its duty over the years, is that everybody, you see that they lie about something, right?
So we were lied to about COVID, obviously.
And then everyone starts looking at everything and thinking that everything's a lie.
And it's not to say everything was perfectly true or told to us perfectly.
The way information could be controlled 40 years ago versus how it's much harder to control it now.
It's like that's obvious.
But with the freedoms of the internet also come that anyone can put out anything whenever.
And they can lie about anything and they can get likes on it.
And then the bots and the algorithms and all those things.
So, no, I don't think any of those things are grand conspiracies.
However, if one day they came to me and they were like, here is the evidence that actually the JFK assassination was this, and we actually have evidence, not just the story around it, right?
You know, even the last couple days, watching this Joe Kent guy go on all these podcasts and shows, he basically just tells a story about what he thinks is happening.
He never offers evidence to anything.
I wasn't allowed to investigate the Charlie Kirk murder.
And it's like, well, that wasn't your job.
I wasn't invited to this meeting.
Well, you were.
You were thought to be a leaker, so you weren't.
So then he just tells a story, and everyone's like, oh, that's a story.
That's interesting.
And by the way, stories are important, right?
This is something Jordan Peterson, I think, explained better than anybody over the years.
We learn truths through stories.
So people are susceptible to lies within stories as well.
Sam says JD Vance and the majority of Trump's cabinet's loyalty is such a breath of fresh air compared to his previous term where people were coming out of the woodwork left and right to disparage Trump.
You know, that is a great point.
I've given credit always where credit is due with this great group of people.
It's not just Trump that's been great here.
It's that everybody, Hegsef, JD, Marco, like everybody across the board.
Again, doesn't mean that everything's going to work out perfectly, but we are getting people that are communicating clearly, that are showing you that there's some disagreements, that are speaking off the cuff.
Like, it's, I would say, as robust an administration as we're ever going to get again.
And you're completely right, by the way.
That's very different than it was the first time around.
I think Trump learned a lot.
And by the way, what was one of the things when I was supporting DeSantis in the primaries, what was one of the things that I said a million times?
My main concern around Trump wasn't Trump.
We knew what we were going to get with Trump.
It was that he was not going to be able to get good people to work for him.
I am thrilled that I was proven wrong on that.
Absolutely thrilled that I'm proven wrong.
And the fact that Bobby came in and then you start and Dr. Oz came in and you get all of these people who weren't even Republicans that long ago, it's incredible.
And hopefully it's not going away in six months.
Tappy Chef says, Would you go into space if it was offered with Joseph, Connor, Phoenix, and your crew?
You know, this is interesting.
This is an interesting question.
So I'm not good on roller coasters.
I cannot sit.
We took the kids to this Lion Park Safari or park, what's it called?
Can you Google it?
Lion Park Safari or something?
It's this awesome place.
It's about two hours north of Miami, maybe three hours north, inland from Palm Beach.
Lion Park?
Lion Country Safari, yeah.
And it's amazing.
They have a full on safari with elephants wandering around and rhinos coming up.
To your car and giraffes, and it's just freaking awesome.
They also have like an amusement park.
I can't even get on a merry-go-round.
I kid you not.
I tried to get on the merry-go-round with the kids.
I was like, my whole equilibrium was shot for like two hours, okay?
So I'm not good with any of that stuff.
Putting that aside, if Elon came to me and said, Dave, would you like to do the first show in space, or we'll put you in orbit and you could broadcast something, I don't know what kind of training I would have to go through, but I would try.
I think it is so cool to think, how could someone who loves sci-fi as much as me?
Say no to that.
So, I don't know if they'd.
They also can put you to sleep, right?
All these movies where you get put to sleep on the long voyage, usually one of the pods ends up exploding.
Hopefully, I'm not in one of those pods.
But, like, there's ways that we could make it happen.
I just watched.
I went to the movies the other day for the first time in years.
I saw Project Hail Mary, which I actually didn't think was great.
But, you know, it's all about space travel and then the ship's gravity getting lost and the guys getting all that.
Like, I would be puking left and right, but I think I would give it a shot.
Connor, would you go?
I feel like.
Let me try to guess.
You like that iced coffee too much.
I don't know what kind of availability of iced coffee there is up there.
Is the kid that's like killing all the toys and he crushes them and he combines them into something evil?
Maybe we get a picture of Sid.
We had to, at that part, I could see that Justin was freaking out a little bit, so we skipped over that.
So we don't do that much, but yes, they are not ready for Ten Commandments.
You know what I did watch with them that was super cool?
One night before bed, you know the opening to the movie Contact, which I reference all the time with Jodie Foster and Matthew McConaughey.
There's that incredible panoramic view of the universe.
They start with the Earth and then it just goes out and out and out, and you see galaxy.
After Galaxy, after Galaxy.
We watched that, and then I started talking about that with them, and that was seriously freaking cool.
And I had Joseph watch it on the flight back from Hungary, and he said it was overrated.
No lunch for you today.
Margaret MD says, with all the craziness in Europe, including Spain, not letting the U.S. use their airspace for the world against Iran, I wonder what it'll take for Trump to leave NATO altogether.
I mean, it seems to me, as per what we discussed earlier on the show, he's laying the groundwork, right?
Like, that seems fairly obvious.
The question right now for Trump that I think, if I was interviewing him right now, and we're constantly in touch with them trying to figure out if we can make it happen, I think what I would want to ask him more than anything else is how is he ordering things in his mind right now before.
The midterm.
Like deportations were really hot, then the war situation took over for that.
Then it was, you know, are we going to get back to SAVAC now?
We haven't talked about SAVAC in two years, two weeks.
So it's like, how do you order all of these important things?
Not only because there's a certain importance or there's a certain level that you have to have a hierarchy, right?
You have to figure out what are the important things.
But it's not just what's the most important right now, it's also what's the most important, where can you get your wins so that the Republicans don't lose the midterms?
To me, that would be the best question to ask the guy.
How do you do what you think is right and important versus balancing that with what will also keep you in power so you can do everything else?
Maybe I'll get to ask him that question.
I think we have one more.
Lacey says, Yesterday's show was not a 9.9, it was a 10.
You approach each issue with grace and common sense and an open mind without sacrificing the core of who you are.
Do you think staying in touch with your locals' community and doing things like touching grass with your basketball friends help you stay grounded?
Yeah, yeah.
The guys keep telling me I need to be jumping in and interacting more on locals.
It's just I'm like pulled in a thousand different directions all the time.
My downtime is minimal, and that's an overstatement.
But checking, you know, it's even why I've referenced the comments lately because it, for me to look and be like, all right, like we end the show and usually we'll do a little post mortem quick and that show was good.
We could have done that better, this better, whatever.
I know when I think the show is basically good.
But when I look afterwards and I see that it's not the comments are like, It's not that the comments are about the specifics of the politics.
It's about the overall, like, what we are doing here that is different.
That is what is making me really proud these days.
It really is.
And if I have to sacrifice clicks or views for that, I'll be okay.
We'll all be just fine.
He'll still get his guacamole and you can have lunch today and all of those things.
So I am very proud of that.
But yeah, I try to have a full life outside of this.
Yeah, oh, and I pointed at the camera too, a showboater right there.
What happens here?
Oh, I think I'm going to pass, and there's going to be, let's see what happens.
Little pass, okay, still moving.
Look at him moving without the ball.
Moving, that's a deep three, that's a deep three.
Not bad, not bad.
I think we got one more.
We got one more with my crew.
It's such a great group of guys.
This is a game winner right here.
Still shooting off the dribble, 49 years old.
That's not easy at 49.
That's, you know, if there's a moment during the week, I play with these guys on Wednesdays and Sundays, and now we got a Tuesday game going.
I'm trying to get a Monday game going.
If there's a moment when I can just put aside all of the other stuff, like put aside, and even sometimes, you know, the guys want to talk politics with me because that's the thing, but like, I'm like, guys, I'm playing basketball right now, that's it.
That's when my brain can be totally free.
But it's that, it's that I try not to be on the machines over the weekend.
That really, really helps.
You know, we've got great friends and family.
We love cooking.
You know, like, yeah, some of the other stuff outside of this is that.
That's what it is.
Like, this is important, and that's important.
That's our show.
We'll do a quick post game.
Why not, right?
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