Tucker Carlson Humiliated as He’s Caught Making Up Story About Iran
Dave Rubin hosts Jamie Michelle and Jacob Smith to dismantle Tucker Carlson's fabricated Mossad story in Qatar, exposing his false claims about Israel's size and nuclear capabilities while critiquing his elevation of Nick Fuentes. The conversation expands to transgender rights, Texas primary results involving James Tallarico, and child trafficking statistics before analyzing Keir Starmer's refusal to strike Iran amid fears of Europe's "Islamization." Guests argue that UK regulations silence free speech, assert Western democracies face cultural suicide through mass immigration, and satirize the Iranian regime's history of kidnapping Americans alongside recent leadership changes. Ultimately, the episode frames current geopolitical tensions as symptoms of broader ideological decay in the West. [Automatically generated summary]
I thought maybe since it is your first appearance on the show, if each of you could just maybe just take a minute, tell people a little bit about what you do online.
I really enjoy both of you.
I think you've been really great outspoken voices in the last little bit.
I blew up back in like 2017 as being a lesbian for Trump.
And ever since then, just kind of been growing steadily.
Then in 2022, I founded an organization called Gays Against Groomers to fight back against the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of kids happening under the guise of LGBTQ plus rights.
That blew up as well, took off national movement, having a lot of success with it.
And I'm also, you know, a very, before anything, I'm just my own self and I have very strong opinions on things.
And, you know, I'm a proud supporter of our country, our president, and I am a very staunch supporter of Israel as well, which I think is relevant to note in these times with what we're up against from so many within our own party or so, they say these days.
So I'm very vocally active about that topic.
But I do want to mention that my personal views have no reflection on the organization.
Completely separate, but I do do, I wear many hats.
Always good to get the disclaimers out of the way up top.
Yeah, you guys have done just great work in terms of separating these letters that have virtually, you know, the LG, the G and the B.
Sure, they can have something to do with each other.
The T and the furry plus, whatever, just have nothing to do with it.
You guys have done a really nice job there.
Jacob, I started seeing you on Instagram, I don't know, maybe about six months ago, just calmly watching videos that were usually nonsense, sometimes from mainstream media, sometimes from online influencers or whatever was happening in the news, and just calmly dissecting things in a really digestible way.
So I'm really happy to have you here.
Maybe you could just tell people about yourself for a moment.
I'm 22 years old, so I'm on the younger verge of Gen Z. I've been making political content focused on conservative, center, right-leaning topics, arguments for many years now, since I was about 15, 16 years old.
After October 7th happened, I was vocally, I vocally came out as a huge supporter, really a staunch supporter of the Jewish nation and its right to exist and defend itself and the fight against anti-Semitism, which has largely contributed to a big part of my platform.
But I try to present arguments in a coherent, logical way, but also in a humanized way, knowing my audience who I can talk to, because some people you just can't talk to them.
But the screaming battles, the rage baiting, and all that, that's for the Nick Fuentezes and now the Tucker Carlsons of the world.
And I don't think it's a good approach.
It's necessary sometimes, but you also have to kind of, you know, boil things down on a human level and be able to talk to people.
So that's what I try to do to present reasonable takes, reasonable cases, and debunk a lot of the nonsense that is floating around all across social media today.
So it was probably not, hasn't been reported, but it's a fact that last night in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, authorities arrested Mossad agents planning on committing bombings in those countries.
Now, that's weird.
It doesn't make any sense.
Why would the Israelis be committing bombings in two Gulf countries, which are also being attacked by Iran?
I heard it the day it came out, saw that clip, and I was like, all right, I've been saying for a while he lies about literally everything.
And I mean that, I mean that word literally in the literal sense.
Everything he says at this point is a lie.
And I was like, I bet you this is going to be debunked.
Well, within a few hours, this from open source intel, Qatari's foreign ministry denies Tucker Carlson's claim, saying there is no evidence of Mossad cells operating in the country.
Subsequently, several other news outlets have completely debunked it.
So there's a couple things here.
I think the three of us are largely in agreement that he's fabricating a lot of stories.
And I'm open to listening to your opinions on why he's doing these things.
He did not correct himself.
He's done several other shows this week.
And I just want to say, as someone that does something similar for a living, in that I tell people my opinions like he does, when I've made mistakes, I have no problem correcting them.
And I don't even, to me, it's like the height of absurdity and an insult to your audience if you're going to lie to their face, be debunked, and not address it.
Jacob, let me have you take a stab at this one first because you've been doing a lot of debunking, including, I think, on this one when it comes to Tucker.
First, I would ask, where on earth did he get this from?
Obviously, Tucker probably has his own personal sources or intel, but I think it's important.
If you establish yourself as a legitimate talking head figure, Tucker Carlson is arguably the largest voice in the conservative space.
You should probably double-check your sources and make sure that what you're saying is factually accurate.
And we've seen reflections of this in people like Candace Owens as well and all the smearing that she has done on the legacy of Charlie Kirk and his handpicked staff, his friends, his team, his wife, where she has said things that are blatantly false, that have come out and been corrected.
And maybe she makes a little statement here and there, but she doesn't openly apologize or say, hey, I got this wrong.
So it's very telling of Tucker Carlson's character to see what he has devolved into of what was once this big anchor guy on Fox News who was credible, who people love, but now he's spouting all of this senseless stuff.
So when it comes out that it never happened, it's like, where did you ever get this from, Tucker?
Did you ever verify it?
And then he says that Israel is going after Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, all of these.
No, the actual alliance that should be forming right now, or that is realistically going to form right now, as a result of all of this stuff going on with Iran, between Iran, is an alliance with the Gulf states, with America and Israel in their fight against Iran, because Iran is throwing everything they have at almost every country.
There are at least 13 countries at this point that have been involved.
Many of them defensive are just consuming things defensively.
They're not taking the offensive.
But at some point, you know, like Saudi Arabia, they talk a big talk.
They're going to have to do something.
They're going to have to take the offensive and go after Iran because that's Iran's whole goal: destabilize the region, potentially shut down the Strade of Hormuz, and pressure Americans economically and all of the other Gulf states to say that this is a war that America can't afford.
And the fact that, again, Tucker Carlson just ran with this before it was approved is really damaging to his credibility.
Yeah, I think it's funny you just brought that line up again because that's what I was going to say.
Like, he said it's it's it hasn't been reported, but it's a fact.
So, yeah, where is he getting this from?
Part of me thinks the demon that attacks him in his sleep is whispering sweet nothings in his ear, giving him like pointers for the next show.
Um, I don't know where it's coming from, but it's clearly uh very clear that um, he's a national security threat at this point, and he's no journalist.
I mean, he built his career on being really a respected journalist and a commentator, and he seems to just be throwing his decades-long career in the trash, like his notoriety, his just everything that he is known for and was respected for.
Um, I think at this point, you know, anything that he hears or comes into his mind to say that could make Israel look bad even a little bit takes like precedence over integrity or the truth these days.
Um, you know, I don't like ever comparing people to Nazis.
I think that it weakens the claim or the actual atrocities of what happened during Nazi Germany.
But I mean, at the rate this guy is going, I think that, you know, he's right.
He's shooting his new career path seems to be aiming for the status of like Gables.
And it's very scary to see.
And it's very troubling to me the people that are still left in our party on our side that refuse to call him out.
It's disturbing seeing more and more join him, the ranks of like this new ideology.
But I'm very concerned about the people who I respected within our movement that stay silent and pretend like he's the same man he was at Fox News.
The strange part as it pertains to the movement is, I mean, there is quite literally nobody on the right in America who is more anti-Trump than Tucker, and yet he was at the White House a week and a half ago.
I suspect those invites are going to start drying up.
I want to show you one more that'll kind of illustrate your point about his obsession with Israel and lying around it.
Jacob, as someone that has studied this guy, and you really have, I mean, first off, there's just a general inauthenticity about the way he speaks, you know, his voice going up and down, the hysterical laughter.
It's like he's trying to pretend to be someone that is authentic, and that makes it less authentic.
He says he wishes Israel no harm.
I mean, he literally lies about Israel every show, including that.
He said, which they have.
Now, it's not confirmed or denied.
They've never confirmed or denied they have nuclear weapons.
Most people seem to think they do, but the idea that they've been threatening people with nukes is completely absurd.
There is a country that has been threatening to use nukes if they ever got them.
That's the country he seems to like very much right now.
But in terms of the nuclear opacity of Israel, because that's what it would be called, if you actually want Israel to be safe, you have to think about incentives and worst-case scenarios, not just these slogans of all.
They threatened to do this multiple times.
When have they done that?
Again, I would ask Tucker, when has Israel said we're going to use a nuclear weapon?
The only thing that they could ever refer to is probably the Samson option.
And there's a lot of context there.
Also, Israel, as Tucker said, is not the size of Maryland.
It's roughly the size of New Jersey.
Maryland is almost one and a half times bigger than Israel.
But Israel has very little strategic depth.
So if it were to be hit with something catastrophic, like a, I don't know, a nuclear weapon from Iran, that would overwhelm its defenses and cause mass casualties in a very quick matter of time.
So they don't have the luxury that larger countries like America or Iran with tens and tens of millions of people, America, 350 million people, of absorbing that blow and just regrouping, which is why the escalation risk matters with a small state that would face an existential threat.
Israel has never said, oh, we're just going to do this because we want to.
No, it's in the face of an existential threat.
It's not because nobody wants anything nuclear, but when a leader believes that the survival of their country is at stake, the logic of deterrence changes.
And that's what nuclear weapons are.
It's deterrence.
And they've long maintained that policy of nuclear ambiguity.
They don't either, like you said, confirm nor deny that they have nuclear weapons, but the entire purpose of that is to posture, is to make enemies think twice about pushing the country into a corner where the leaders have to feel like they're choosing between national destruction and extreme retaliation.
And historically, Israel would not be unique in that kind of deterrence signaling.
Every nuclear-armed country has some version of the same logic.
I mean, during the Cold War, America made it clear that nuclear weapons would be used if the Soviet Union threatened the survival of any NATO countries.
The Soviet Union maintains similar doctrines.
The modern Russia doctrine still states nuclear weapons could be used if the existence of that state is threatened.
Pakistan has openly said that their nuclear arsenal exists for the purposes of being to prevent being overwhelmed by India's much larger conventional military and France and the UK as well have also both built nuclear deterrence on the principle that any threat to the survival of the state could trigger nuclear retaliation.
So it's not unique to Israel.
Small state threatened by people who have, since its inception, I wanted to wipe it off the face of the map.
But Jamie, I want to show you this video of Jeremy Boring, former CEO of the Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring, talking about, and you can read into this, whether he's talking about Tucker, Candace, perhaps both of them, maybe others, about what is happening in sort of the online influencer space right now.
And they're using the techniques that have been used by cults throughout history, which it is a weakness in the human being that when someone shows us that we've been lied to, we immediately trust them.
If someone comes along and says, you've been lied to your entire life, your immediate thought should be, man, I'm gullible.
I should be careful what I believe.
Instead, it's, now you're who I trust.
Tell me more.
And so it's a very powerful tool, a very powerful form of persuasion to tell people that everything they believe is a lie.
It's a lie because everything you believe is not a lie.
So, Jamie, I love this clip and I love the fact that Jeremy is suddenly on the scene again because he obviously was involved in Candace's rise, as was I, and I'll pay for it one day, I suppose.
But he's making an interesting point.
You know, mainstream media lied to us about so much stuff.
Very fine people, Hunter Biden, laptop, Covington Kids, Kyle Rittenhouse, COVID, obviously.
I mean, we could do with the laundry list, that it pushed sane people towards the online media.
I believe, and I think you guys believe you have a responsibility to tell the truth doesn't mean you're going to get it right all the time.
But another type of person acts in a cult-like behavior and will just keep running with the lies.
So to me, he's, I mean, he's talking about Tucker there.
Yeah, I think he's talking about Tucker and Candace probably.
And he's right.
You know, I was actually really excited about the online media space when it started gaining a lot of popularity with shows like yours and theirs.
And, well, not so much Candace or Tucker, but other people in the space that were going to combat the mainstream media and their lies.
I think everybody hates the mainstream media at this point.
But so my excitement over the past year, year and a half, really since October 7th, I guess that's probably more accurate.
It is faded.
And now I'm quite horrified by it.
Um, that just anybody can come out and make outrageous claims with no proof and gain a massive following very quickly and go viral and basically take control of, or at least very heavily impact the news cycle and reality, really, like the perception of reality, at least.
Yeah, it's very scary.
And like you, I'm very glad that Jeremy Boring is making a comeback and being more vocal and hitting shows again because I mean, his voice is very needed.
He's a great guy.
And, you know, we need more people like that speaking out against these lunatics who are trying to hijack the party.
Yeah, Jacob, let me ask you: as somebody that calmly, I mean, what you do on your channel, it's very similar in some sense.
You do it in a more bite-sized version, but what I try to do is use clips to illustrate what people say versus what they said before, et cetera, et cetera.
So, as someone that calmly lays out what's going on, what do you make of the type of person that is just constantly using trapdoors with their audience?
It's always on tomorrow's episode we'll get the truth, and this is the next thing.
And the story continued.
I mean, it's literally what soap operas were in the 80s.
Tune into tomorrow's exciting episode of General Hospital and find out if she killed her lesbian brothers, cousins, uncles, nephews, niece.
Like Jamie said, the mainstream media has been fractured.
People don't trust the mainstream media anymore.
And it enables a path for independent voices, even people who are once famous for being involved in other networks or that had big voices and big platforms like Tucker and Candace, but also just random people.
And one of those people is me.
And I tell people, judge what I say.
Don't look at me and what I believe.
No, judge what I say.
Critique whatever I say.
Evaluate the argument, the facts, and deal with them, deal in reality.
So it is dangerous that you can have these people who are incentive-driven.
Social media rewards algorithms, or the algorithms reward outrage and monetization.
I posted a tweet the other day that said, if you want to get rid of half of these idiots and morons in this AI slop, one, warn them.
If they do it again, demonetize them.
And if they do it a third time, ban their account for this AI slop.
But it's monetization, whatever gets clicks and views.
Oh, come back to the next episode.
I'm going to rant for an hour and a half about something.
I'm going to tell a bunch of lies.
I'm never going to correct them.
That's what Candace does.
Tucker, I think Candace is stupid.
I think Candace Owens is genuinely a stupid person.
I think Tucker is smart.
And the way that he goes about doing it, like in his recent interview with Mike Huckabee, he's very slick in how he maneuvers around the conversation and how he tries to frame things.
Like saying, Mike Huckabee said that if there was a 14-year-old Hamas member guarding a hostage, sorry, but you're going to have to take him out.
That's just how the world works.
And Tucker says, Well, I would never want to kill a 14-year-old.
I would never kill a child.
Tucker, if a 14-year-old ran up to you on the side of the street and pointed a weapon at you, what are you going to do?
Ask him how old he is, or are you going to defend yourself?
Or if they, if they, proportionally, in comparison to America, if they took it would be thousands of hostages like they did with Israel as a ratio, if you adjust for the population.
If they took back thousands of American hostages and they were guarded by 14-year-olds, is the American military going to say, oh, well, we can't strike them.
We can't go do anything because they're 14 years old.
So I think in this clip, what Jeremy is pointing out is that there is really, and you kind of see it everywhere now, there's this weird psychological thing where the easiest way to gain somebody's trust is to start by telling them that they've been lied to.
Because nobody likes realizing that they were misled.
And it makes you feel stupid.
It makes you feel angry.
And there's always somebody to blame.
So when a person shows up and says, everyone else has been lying to you, but I'm going to tell you the truth, people are going to latch onto that immediately.
But the ironic part of that is that the moment you realize that you've been misled about something, the rational reaction should be to actually become more cautious, to evaluate things with more scrutiny, and not to instantly just trust the next person claiming that they figured everything out.
Because the reality is that, yes, people get lied to sometimes.
Government do it, media does it, politicians do it.
But the jump from, well, some things you've been told aren't true to everything you believe is a lie, and I am the only one telling you the truth is exactly where manipulation starts.
And that's why it works so well.
Because once someone can convince you that everyone else is lying, they've removed every other source that you might use to question them.
And now they're the only voice left.
And you have to listen to them and take them as credible.
So I want to do just one other quick thing on this woke right situation because I thought this tweet from Nick Fuentes was quite interesting.
I haven't done much on Fuentes.
I don't care about the kid really.
I think he's a gay furry or something.
It doesn't really matter to me.
But what I think is interesting is that he was the one person that Charlie Kirk did not want in the MAGA movement or anything else.
And Tucker went out of his way within two months of Charlie's death to mainstream this kid.
But he wrote this: I'm voting Democrat in 2026 because white people can play both sides too.
The GOP broke every single promise.
Epstein file cover-up, regime change war in Iran, and no mass deportations.
The GOP must be purged and burned to the ground in 26.
Hostile takeover in 28.
Jamie, there's a couple interesting things here.
I mean, putting aside that Tucker sort of elevated this kid, I think he voted for Kamala last time or told his audience to vote for Kamala.
So it's not as if he's been some Trump person in the first place.
We are doing the deportations.
I would argue you should do more.
So I can almost agree with him that maybe there should be more.
The Iran war is going extremely well.
I don't think there's anything conservative or MAGA about this kid at all, which probably explains why Tucker elevated him because I don't think there's anything MAGA about Tucker anymore.
I find it so funny that there were some more moderate voices within our party that are, you know, big on big social media people or podcasters who were saying that they're not going to attack anybody to the right when, when asked if they're, you know, what, why aren't you calling out Nick Fuentes and other people like that?
But, you know, it's so silly and funny and an obvious lie because clearly people like Nick Fuentes and the Groupers are not right wing.
Like horseshoe theory, I think, is the undefeated champion of the past few years, consistently showing that it's like 100% true, that the further you go right, the more close you are to the farthest left.
Like it's just, you know, it's a, you all know horseshoe theory, but that's what we're dealing with here.
And so, you know, now that he's blatantly and openly calling and saying that he will vote for Democrats and telling his followers to also vote for Democrats, I wonder if their attitude will change and if they'll call him out, or was that just a cover because they want his audience, they want his numbers.
That's all these people care about.
People not calling that out, they're trying to appeal.
You know, the Groypers and Nick, they're getting the signal loud and clear, just like all of us are, that, you know, they're, they're Grouper friendly.
So it's all about money and clicks, the, the well-being of our nation and our security, be damned.
And it's pathetic, really, that this is, they're still doing it and getting, yeah.
So, Jacob, let me ask you a slightly different angle on this, which is as someone that is 22 and involved in the kind of underbelly of the internet and tracking these things, how much influence do you think this frog Grouper thing actually has outside of just kind of trolls and video game guys that don't get out of their basement and everything?
Like, how much actual influence is there?
Do you think by Fuente saying vote Democrat, does it actually move the dial or just does it create social media headaches that none of us know exactly how to quantify?
Again, this is a guy who lives based off of outrage.
He is a nihilist.
And these takes, it's what you're a conservative, Nick Flint says.
What are you conservative on?
Strictly foreign policy and Iran?
To say that, you know, in his tweet that the GOP has done nothing, the Trump administration has done nothing.
That's a spit in the face.
Like I said, it's just political nihilism.
And he dresses this up as him being some, you know, effective political voice.
But if you were to actually care about what he said in the tweet, immigration enforcement, Iran policy, or any transparency around the things like Epstein, voting for the party and encouraging other people to vote for that party that is further away from those goals just to burn everything down doesn't increase any leverage.
The craziest part of all of this, for anyone that's frustrated, look, if you're the most, like, not racist, anti-Semite, whatever, but if you're just like the most hardcore libertarian on the planet right now and just have that as your personal position, I think that's just fine.
But if that's going to drive you to voting for the Democrats who want to open up the borders and want no American influence anywhere, and like that to me is just nuts.
But let's leave that there.
I want to jump over to something else because, you know, a lot of people thought that, and Piers Morgan titled his book, Woke is Dead.
And I had him in studio and I said, I don't know if that title is going to work out right for you because this thing does not seem like it's going anywhere.
It just kind of morphed into a few different directions.
And Jamie, I know this one is near and dear to you.
So I want to show you this.
Steve O, who some of you may remember, I interviewed this guy like 15 years ago and he was on Jackass.
He went on Rogan and they started discussing what's going on with trans people and bathrooms.
The reason I wanted to show you that clip, Jamie, was I know none of that surprises you as someone that's been trying to remove the T letter from the LGB thing.
But for all the people that think woke is dead, to me, there are still literally millions, and it might be hundreds of millions of people who are still brainwashed with this stuff.
I think that, you know, there's an illusion almost with Trump as president that things are better.
And some things are.
Like there are so many hospitals that because of the Trump administration's threats to withhold Medicaid and stuff, that they are stopping the mutilating surgeries and chemical castration drugs being given to minors.
But the actual people in this country, I don't think the mentality has really shifted that much.
It's just the leadership in charge is not allowing the insane policies to continue.
So, no, I think anybody that thinks that Woke is truly dead is mistaken and is in for a shock if Republicans ever lose power again, which I'm sure will happen, especially if the Groypers do hold a little more weight than just online, which I don't think is true, but who can say for sure?
Yeah, so no, things are better now, but overall, there's still a major problem.
And I love how Joe Rogan called out Steve-O.
I mean, for such a hardcore dude, this Steve-O guy, he seemed like he was about to break down in tears over a man not being able to urinate with women.
I mean, the guy has been dropped on his head hundreds of times and kicked in the balls more than like basically anybody since Bob Sagett on America's Funniest Home videos.
But let me jump to this for a second because if you think that the Democrats are done with this stuff, this week in Texas, Jasmine Crockett, who is as crazy far left as you can possibly get, she lost the Democrat primary to somebody who is even crazier.
So it's like it's a, I thought we weren't supposed to question election integrity and we were just supposed to outright accept the election results, even though Hillary Clinton went on for years saying that it was illegitimate.
Nonetheless, though, this James guy, he's, I don't like the fact that he tries to use disguise of Christianity and how he displays his arguments.
As a Christian, again, there's all different denominations and ways that people believe and interpret the Bible.
It's a spit in the face.
There's clear interpretations biblically.
And if you're going to make the case that you shouldn't intertwine that with politics, then that's your case.
But if you are, it needs to be biblically rooted.
And he is a complete distortion of Christianity and what it means insofar as how it should be applied to the political discourse and our policy positions.
The idea that there are more than two sexes or science objectively proves that is blatantly false.
There are not.
That doesn't exist.
There are only two sexes.
I would love to hear of the other four.
And just all of the other, I mean, I think he's kind of like centered his whole campaign on the social issues that I thought we left back in 2020 and 2021.
So if your biggest policy objective is to say that, or to frame everything as it's oppression, that biological men can't go pee in the same bathroom as women, and to say that poverty is, what do you say, violence and that prison is violence?
No, prison is where you put the people who commit violence to get them off the streets to make our society safer.
The fact that Jasmine Crockett, who calls everyone racist or calls Republicans racist, was dethroned by a white progressive is just like the perfect cherry on the top of this thing.
Let's jump to a couple other things.
So there was video.
I thought this was just really interesting and something that probably doesn't get talked about enough.
But there was a hearing in Congress.
It was called Lost and Exploited Confronting Child Trafficking and the Failure to Protect America's Most Vulnerable.
And Tim Thibault, who at one time people thought was going to be a major NFL star and that never quite panned out, has become a major advocate against child trafficking.
Again, it's a completely ignored, for the most part, issue.
And just fundamentally, any society that fails to uphold its obligation to protect the most vulnerable, children, as a civilization, it's just lost all bearing.
But I think what often gets missed in the political landscape today is that, again, we spent enormous amounts of energy arguing about cultural issues, about being ideologues, people outrage farms on Twitter, just people being divisive, these partisan narratives or ideological battles.
While something like this, which should unite people across every line, left, right, man, woman, child, grandfather, grandmother, it doesn't get the same sustained attention.
Child exploitation networks exist because predators rely on the secrecy and the fragmentation that social media and technology has provided to them.
And again, there are so many incentives and good things with social media and being able to spread information, but there's also downsides.
There's bad effects, and people just look the other way.
So it's good that Tim Thibaut with a large platform tries to bring attention to it, whether you share his religious language or not.
A lot of people are immediately going to hold that against him.
get confronted when people actually decide to start protecting the vulnerable and they decide that that is an optional or secondary but a fundamental responsibility of a decent society yeah i always think it's go ahead I want to add that besides just social media, welcoming these predators and giving them a place to thrive and continue to abuse children, the trans community, like this just free-for-all where all you have to do is say you're a woman and then you're a woman, is opening the door for pedophiles and predators as well.
I mean, so many are just saying that they're trans, gain access to a women's locker room with naked women and children, or hopefully not children, but you know, like where women and children are.
And yeah, that's also a major issue that needs to be confronted.
And that's why we're trying to fight so hard against it.
And just quickly, it's worth reiterating sort of what Jacob said right there, which is that because everything becomes so partisan and used for politics, it's even like the Epstein stuff.
The Democrats had the House and the Senate and the presidency didn't do anything about it.
Then they thought they could get Trump on it.
So they're all into it while the Republicans used to be against it.
The long-standing British position is that the best way forward for the regime and the world is a negotiated settlement with Iran where they give up their nuclear ambitions.
Now, that's why I took the decision that the UK would not join the initial strikes on Iran by the US and Israel.
Now, that decision was deliberate.
It was in the national interest.
And I stand by it.
But when Iran started attacking countries around the Gulf and the wider region, the situation changed.
Iran has now fired drones and missiles at 10 countries that did not attack them.
The virtue signaling that this guy has given and all of the other leaders in Europe, for that matter, turning a blind eye to the literal Islamization of their continent is despicable.
It is a fact that it is going to take over.
Just if you look at the birth rates, the European women, they just don't simply have replaceable birth rates to even maintain their own population.
And they're doing nothing about it.
They're saying, oh, our economy sucks.
We're going to import all these backwards people from systems that have worldviews that are completely antithetical to ours.
And it's going to fix our economy instead of actually trying to help the people there.
But yeah, it's stupid.
What did he expect?
The UK obviously has an obligation to be in alliance with not only Israel, but America and just the Western alliance and fighting Iran.
And I don't know.
I'm tired of politicians in the West succumbing to the interest of Iran.
He says that they're not going to get involved in the strikes and we need some type of negotiation.
Well, we kind of tried negotiation before Trump decided to strike.
We kind of tried negotiation with the JCPOA under Obama.
What did Iran do?
They spit in our face.
They take advantage of us.
Why?
Because they literally think we are infidels.
People have to understand these people don't think like us.
They don't think like Westerners.
They're politicians.
They don't think like it.
Anything that can progress their goal, that can give them progress in their goal to achieve whatever They want to achieve, they're going to do.
And if that comes at sacrificing their own lives, they don't care.
They're motors.
They go get their whatever, 70, 72 virgins in paradise, is what I've been told.
It's what I've read.
But it's just, that's what they say.
But it's just, we've tried it.
They spit in our face.
They lied to us.
They lied about their nuclear program.
They blocked inspections.
Negotiations were exhausted.
And there comes a time, and I'm glad to see it, that there's finally a leader in the world who is taking his stand and carrying out some real material action against a regime that has chanted death to America for 47 years and whose first action was to kidnap our people for 444 days.
Their first action in 1979 after they came into power, the Ayatollah.
And by the way, it's interesting that he waited a couple of days, then got to see that America and Israel basically destroyed the Navy, took out the political leadership, took out the religious leadership, have total air dominance and everything else.
And it's like, oh, now the UK will get involved because everyone's afraid of the UK.
And Macron kind of said the same thing about France.
Jamie, on the Islamization issue, it seems to me, I had Tommy Robinson in here a week ago today, last Friday, and he was talking about how basically a guy like Starmer, he's just a hostage now to his own constituency, even though there's a more radical party out there now, the Green Party, than his own Labor Party.
I thought this would be a nice way of putting a pin in the show today because one of the, there's two things that kind of brought the three of us together: free speech of America and a free internet.
And that's what we're all doing with our lives.
And that's why people hopefully tune in and share their thoughts as well.
But in the UK, they don't have the First Amendment and they are very quickly losing a free internet.
So I want to show you this new UK government ad and watch the chilling effect on free speech that they are, I would argue, not so subtly doing here.
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I just got all my device taken away by the police.
My mom couldn't believe it.
I might get a criminal record and not be able to go to college.
So of course they take a white kid and he somehow thought it was funny to share a terrorist link, implying so maybe it has something to do with white terror or something.
But really, of course, what they want is for the average kid out there not to say mean things to politicians, or they want the average mother who's not happy with the immigration situation to say something about it or push back against Starmer or anything else.
Jacob, do you think that the UK in particular is just fully cooked?
I mean, you sort of said that earlier, just on the demographic side, but do you think sort of ideologically do they have a way out of this?
Well, the demographic shift is bringing in a completely antithetical ideology to what established Britain and Europe.
So they're cooked in that capacity, but they're also cooked by the policies that the current democratic leadership is pushing.
And I think that is, it's used to the detriment of a lot of Western countries and democracies is that people who aren't democratic, who don't care about our processes of government, our institutions, and our civilization, they take advantage of it and they weaponize it.
And that's exactly what has happened.
They have framed Islamophobia in the UK by definition as racist.
Well, the last time I checked, anyone can be a Muslim.
It doesn't matter the color of your skin.
And this is also, I was going to touch on this a little bit earlier.
You're dealing with a civilization right now that is being demonized if they are of the belief that they should preserve their culture, their institutions, and what built their society.
And that is fundamentally dangerous.
That leads to the collapse of a society.
You add in all of the immigration, the parallel institutions, the Sharia courts, all of the mosques, the open public prayer, the birth rates.
It's only a matter of time.
And any functioning society or civilization should have the backbone to stand and defend its principles, what built it at a fundamental level.
The whole point is that if a bunch of white guys were to just up and leave and say, we're going to go move to Zimbabwe, white Christian guys or Kenya or someplace in Africa, the population there in those countries would probably have an issue with the demographic overrun of this new immigrant population.
They would like to preserve their culture.
Everywhere in Africa, in Asia, and everywhere else is allowed to do it.
But in the West, we have so focused on being, you know, the beacon of democracy and acceptance and diversity that we're committing cultural suicide.
And the fact that ads like these are going out trying to pressure kids or emotionally get at them for stupid things like this and actually speaking their mind is fundamental to a free society to be able to have free speech.
I have friends who have been arrested in the UK for talking about certain political issues and certain religions.
He is a sitcom writer, I believe, is what he did with his life.
Yeah, so it's incredibly disturbing.
But as Jake was saying, it's always so funny how only white countries are the ones that have to import millions of people and replace their entire population with people who are not like them, who do not have the same culture, beliefs, traditions, anything.
Even though white people are the majority of, like, they're like 7% of the world, the global population.
So it's, it's, I think people are starting to see through it.
I hope Europe can do something, but I don't feel great about it.
I don't see how it could happen.
But luckily, we can still do something here, I hope.
Jamie, Jacob, first time, not the last time, I promise.
I thank you guys for joining.
And we are bringing back this week in the internet.
This week on the internet, as the Ayatollah got fired with extreme prejudice and as everyone became an expert on foreign policy overnight, the internet is more concerned with whether or not Iranian women are the Latinas of the Middle East.
Well, that's where we are as a civilization, guys.
Missiles are flying in and out of Iran.
And the first thing guys think is, cool, but who are those hot women?
And naturally, Silicon Valley tech virgins saw that and thought, business opportunity.
Yeah, that's right.
There's now an app that lets you find dates in a bomb shelter.
Which actually does make some sense because these days your first date might also be your last.
Kids, this is the story of how I met your mother and why you glow in the dark.
On another note, Ayatolli, Ayatollah Alireza Arafi was killed on his first day as supreme leader.
So, if you're complaining about your first day on the job, just remember, at least you made it today too.
Speaking of world leaders, Pierce Starmer released a video this week showing how hard he's been working on the crisis.
Oh, my bad.
I meant a stage video of him pretending to take a phone call about how he doesn't have to take phone calls.
Imagine being the trans-Muslim staffer shooting that.
Righto, Prime Minister, pick up the phone, stare at it, now do nothing.
Great.
You know what this kind of reminds me of?
Well, I just fixed it.
And that's why, Keir Starmer, you are this week's number one wanker.
That's a British word.
If you thought the only war going on right now was in Iran, well, there's also a massive burger-CEO war happening online.
McDonald's started it when their CEO went viral trying the new big arch burger, and the poor guy could barely swallow a bite.
Then Burger King jumped in, and their CEO took a massive bite to outshine, or as the kids say on the internet, to outmog McDonald's.
And so did AW.
So the internet's now wondering, what's your move, RB's CEO?
And of course, let's be honest, we all know what that move is.
It's banging the flaps off a roast beef sandwich.
Because they've got the meats.
You get it?
Get it.
And if you don't think that'll make roast beef a new category on OnlyFans, you've obviously never spent time on Reddit.
And that's not the only news from the fast food industry.
Wait until you hear about what a former McDonald's employee was up to this week.
He used to work in the drive-thru window, and now he's reshaping the Middle East.
That's right.
This week on the internet, a Qatari Simps multi-million dollar nicotine shipment was hijacked.
My crack team did some digging, and we actually found out who stole it.
Except after he tried those India-made pouches, he went from Joe Camill to Joe Chemo.
I mean, who doesn't feel sick when using nicotine pouches made from a country whose all-natural, beautiful, clear water looks like this?
And this leads me to my last point.
This week on the internet, we learned social media is really just a social experiment that got way out of hand.
Remember in school how they used to separate kids?
You know, you had the honors classes for the Marco Rubio types, you had regular classes for the Mike Johnsons.
And then, of course, you had the class where the teacher spent most of the time teaching the Jasmine Crockett of the world that glue is not to be sniffed.
And it worked because not everyone learns the same way.