Dave Rubin and guests dissect Ilhan Omar’s alleged $5M winery fraud, exposed by Angela Rose’s citizen journalism, revealing her husband’s resistance to filming and a wealth jump from under $100K to over $30M. They contrast her with Jelly Roll’s faith-driven Grammy speech, mocking woke celebrity activism like Billie Eilish’s $3M Malibu mansion and Gavin Newsom’s Davos apology tour. Austin Appleby’s shark-survived rescue highlights real heroism amid political and media absurdity, underscoring citizen journalism’s power over institutional bias. [Automatically generated summary]
No, I mean, last semester, we did the Q ⁇ As all indoors, but this semester we're going back out there, like in the student union or wherever we set up the tent.
You know, it's always a different location.
And we're going to just, you know, pick up the mic.
Anybody that wants to debate is going to debate.
So we're going to try to honor Charlie's legacy.
I mean, I'm obviously not as good as Charlie.
I'm Charlie Kurt.
I'm the bad version of Charlie, but it's going to be fun.
It's going to be exciting.
And, you know, I'm not worried about my safety.
We're going to have plenty of security, but I do think it's going to be something weird could happen.
People are very desensitized to violence right now.
It's, you know, it's still, I say, still a Central American country.
It's very disconcerting when you don't actually speak the language of the country.
And to my shock, nobody spoke French there.
So French wasn't going to get me out of not being able to communicate.
No, it was safe.
It was beautiful.
You know, I had a bit of a, not a hiccup, but a delay coming back where I almost missed the plane because of a miscommunication in terms of misreading my visa.
But I got home and no, it was beautiful.
And it was great seeing you and the food flipping delicious.
And there were a lot of guys on corners with big guns keeping the city safe.
And it was nice to be in, even though, even though in some sense, you kind of don't, you know, you don't want to see guys with big, heavy, you know, machine guns on the streets.
On the other hand, I've been to a lot of Democrat cities now where you don't feel safe anywhere.
And truly, and then we'll move on.
I mean, Viva, did you feel unsafe at any given moment?
But I thought this first story that I want to cover is perfect for you guys because citizen journalism, people walking around with this little device in their pocket, has completely, absolutely overtaken mainstream media at this point.
And I want to start with this.
This is a conservative commentator.
Her name is Angela Rose.
She went to visit Ilhan Omar's winery, and you're not going to believe what happened.
Even if the excuse is that they're sort of like the generic manufacturing center and you can license out your own branded bottles, then they still have something to do with Este Cru LLC, you know, the limited liability company.
What I wondered, did it say seized or ceased?
And it was sort of like the transcription error in that video.
Because it would be funny if they actually used the word seized because they all went to the Learing Center to get their winery education.
You know, when you discover one element of fraud in a person, and they say past is prologue, but if it's happened once, it's happened more than once.
And you have this winery that it was involved in a lawsuit that was reported on in 2024 where they took $300,000 from a guy and said, we're going to put it in a winery and you're going to get five times return on your money.
And the guy was lucky to get his money back after some lawsuits because they, you know, potentially fraudulently misrepresented what the business would be.
I mean, they seem to be totally defunct.
How it's worth millions of dollars on a spreadsheet, a balance sheet, boggles the mind.
What do you guys broadly think about what's happening here?
You know, it really got put on steroids with Nick Shirley.
This idea, and Alex, you've been out there doing these things forever, but like that the guy with the camera, or in this case, the girl with the camera, is just doing way better stuff than mainstream media.
I mean, if you look at it, the power that we hold with just having a camera phone is more powerful than, you know, dare I say Fox News or any, you know, CBS or ABC, any, I'm just saying, thinking of any media company, they're probably a little too highfalutin to actually go out there and really expose these people because, you know, it's like a person that has nothing to lose, a citizen journalist, is the most dangerous person.
And because these people are worried about losing their jobs or, you know, covering the story wrong, it makes them have to really kind of hesitate when they actually have a lead or a big story.
So Nick Shirley is able to break a story because he's not owned by anybody and he has total freedom.
And that's what it really comes down to, I think, is people can just go out there and do it.
They don't have a boss telling them not to.
They don't have to fill out an expense report.
And it just makes the methodology of exposing these people a lot easier because look, you just said it best at that Dragon Queen story hour.
All I did was have a camera phone and that video got tens of millions of views.
So it really doesn't take much other than courage to go expose this stuff.
Well, from what I heard, there's a LA-based law firm, Sinai Law, that offered pro bono to help the native tribe that owns the unceded land take back that home that is built on stolen land, the sort of the stolen fruits of the tree.
But no, the hypocrisy is so in your face.
The only people who don't really appreciate it are probably still watching the Grammys.
You know, a ticket-only red carpet gala, the snootiest of the snooties, lecturing the rest of the world while they have their little ivory towers to say, let everybody in.
I don't believe in borders and, you know, ICE shouldn't be doing anything, but nobody's coming onto my property.
You've got cameras, guns, and you'll be arrested.
You know, it's just so obvious.
I don't understand why people are still giving these people any form of celebrity status, you know, weight in society.
But I'll just say this when it comes to Billie Eilish, I don't think she has an independent thought in her head.
I think somebody told her to probably go and say that.
And when you look at the way that these people dress at the Grammys, I liked it when Katy Perry, I don't like her politics when she wore a hamburger at that award show.
Like, I think there is kind of this angle where you can dress funny and it's, you know, kind of entertaining.
But Billie Eilish is doing the opposite.
Like you hear about looks maxing.
They're doing weird maxing.
Like they want to be as weird as possible for some reason.
And I guess it's to get it, get attention.
And I like to get attention, but it's just the wrong way to get it.
So for her to go and virtue signal about stolen land, it just makes me want to puke.
And I don't even think she had that thought independently.
Like I said, I really think somebody probably told her to say that.
There was a time in my life, y'all, that I was broken.
That's why I wrote this album.
I didn't think I had a chance, y'all.
There were days that I thought the darkest things.
I was a horrible human.
There was a moment in my life that all I had was a Bible this big and a radio the same size and a six by eight foot cell, and I believed that those two things could change my life.
I believe that music had the power to change my life and God had the power to change my life and I want to tell y'all right now, Jesus is for everybody.
I was just I'll make a joke I was surprised to not see the likes of Billie Eilish and you know Nick, I can't think of any other of these celebrities, you know, bursting into flames at the idea of an actual God setting a higher moral order that none of them are living by, or very few of them.
No, Jelly Roll's amazing, I mean.
I've known him for a couple of known of him for a couple years he's been on.
He's lost, by the way, 300 pounds over the last two years.
So if you, if you didn't know who he was, you know before you wouldn't recognize him.
But when I first heard that, I'm like oh, how do I interpret this?
Is it, is it someone on the left, you know, telling the right that you know it's not only conservatives that you know hold on Jesus?
Or is it someone on the right trying to invite people on the left?
Or is it someone just saying, left or right, you can find some form of unification, salvation in God?
The message was beautiful and you know that's why you have the audience cheering, even though I think half of them were probably rolling their eyes because of the idea of an actual God and actual morality and actual natural law blows their mind.
But the other half, you know, certainly appreciated what he had to say.
Yeah, and on top of that like, obviously I liked how he brought up his faith.
He talks about Jesus, but I I like the point that he made that it's both sides.
You know, it doesn't matter about political parties, because I really do think, other than a few topics most of us agree on, on a lot of things, like really most of people are in the middle, like people aren't usually too far right or far left, so having a message like that, encouraging both sides, I think that that was.
You know, I thought that was special because in a place like that, his counter signal, you know, could have been great or it could have been really bad for him and in my opinion, it went really well and it's a super viral moment.
So, you know, good on Jelly Roll for speaking his mind and not being afraid.
So, of course, the main thing at the Grammys was the Anti-ice Rhetoric and Justin Bieber with the ice out thing, and Bad Bunny and Billy Eilish and all of these absolute clowns.
And Viva, you kind of alluded to this.
In some sense, it's like, why do we care about any of this stuff?
I always say the answer to that is because politics is downstream from culture, as Andrew Breitbart famously said.
And I want to show you two videos here.
They're muted so we can talk over them.
But this is just two videos out of hundreds that have been going across the country of kids at public schools who are rallying against ICE.
And the rallies are, let's say, less than, I don't know, thoughtful.
Well, I would be weary about whether or not these videos are actually what they are represented as being.
But we do know that these public schools were letting kids tons of them.
No, no, there's tons.
There's tons.
The only thing is, you know, not getting something that, you know, sometimes they swap things in that weren't, you know, necessarily of that school on ICE protest.
We took our third kid out of public school for a number of reasons, but this was sort of one of them.
Even in a good school in Florida, you can see the indoctrination starts early.
If I had had a kid that was holding up pan carts, whatever those things are, the banners, because the teachers were telling them to protest ICE, that kid would have been out of that school that afternoon.
This is how you understand.
They get to the indoctrination of kids when they're kids.
They take them from their parents and they teach them the lessons or a lesson that only the parents should have the moral authority of teaching a kid.
And, you know, this is the number one good reason why you should pull your kids out of public schools if this is the type of crap that's going on there.
Alex, is the scary part for as loony as the left has gone over the last 10 years and as wacky as the Democrat Party has gone, now you're like when you see kids like that, they have no memory of a pre-internet world.
Like they're just growing up in all of this craziness.
You know, Dave, there's these viral videos where they ask people what year they were born.
And if it starts at the 19, they show like a dinosaur and it makes me feel really bad.
You see these videos.
Yeah, I'm saying you've probably seen it.
It's a new editing trend and it watches it.
It makes me sick.
But you're exactly right.
Like these kids have never lived where they had a landline phone.
And I think the world was a better place.
I'm not trying to sound like Ankh or grandpa, but the world was a better place and we didn't all have a computer in our pocket.
So these kids never got to experience that.
And on top of that, when it comes to like the violence, you see how crazy they're acting?
This younger generation, they're totally desensitized to it.
I feel like their only option right now is to almost be violent, whether it's violent towards each other or violence towards people who they think their enemy is.
So that's the kind of scary thing that I think about the future is these people are totally desensitized.
They've watched everything.
They can find everything on their phone.
And now it's not necessarily about morals.
It's that they think that violence is just acceptable in this day and age.
I'm personally offended by what was presented on so many different levels.
one thing i would like to see updated is the word homeless to unhoused i'm i'm not i'm not done can i I just don't want Mr. Berman to for this to be on him.
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That's the way our state of California, that's the language that they use.
And I just want to make sure that Joy Flynn there, the Pajaro Verde School Board Vice President, she sort of represents everything that's wrong with all of this stuff.
Not the quibble about the words, I'm talking, doesn't matter what they say.
It's a little bit of everything there for you, Alex.
Which again, you may watch that and go, okay, but that's just one little school board here.
But then when you see all these videos, the kids going crazy, it's not.
You know, I mean, what's the term we always use, woke ideology?
But like, that is the wokest crap I've ever seen in my life.
And you know what, the sad part about it is the homeless community is made up of vets and made up of American citizens.
But if I'm an illegal immigrant, I'm going to get a free hotel room in Manhattan.
So, you know, if she really actually cared about this, she would see that this system is a two-tiered justice system or a two-tiered social justice system that really affects illegal immigrants more than it affects American citizens.
And, you know, I'll be, I'll say this.
I'm a little empathetic to her because I could tell that she was getting emotional, not just because of that word, but she probably struggled.
She might have been homeless at some point in her life, but that still doesn't give her an excuse to be retarded.
So that's why I think, you know, it's really sad to hear her say that.
were literally saying what I was writing down as as I was writing it.
It just makes no sense.
Like even if you grant her every bit of empathy and she's a great human and doing good stuff and everything else, that they've whittled words into meaning things that they don't mean just so that they can be offended by one phrase or another that inherently is not more offensive than any other phrase.
I am talking about our president, Donald Trump, who's trying his damnedest year into this thing to right this country while everybody's going after him, but he will not be here forever.
And he did a sit-down with NBC News a couple of days ago and was asked what might come post-Trump.
Viva, I just don't think we're ever going to have a politician as honest as this guy ever again.
I think that for as much as many of us have come around on him, I just think we still don't realize like his ability to everything he said there, I actually believe to be true.
He likes them both.
He thinks they'd both be good.
I think he'd be happy either way with either one at the top of the ticket.
He doesn't want to instigate a fight.
He kind of tells the interviewer, sort of a stupid question because we're three years away.
Well, first of all, he's also right in terms of not wanting to undermine his credit VP, JD Vance.
Now, things can happen in the future.
And, you know, J.D. can make his own decision in the future.
I'll say one thing.
I get a little bit of flack online because I'm critical of the administration, but only in the sense of trying to make it better and make them make the right decision, the best decisions possible and let them know what the voice of the people are still thinking.
Donald Trump is the best president in my lifetime, hands down.
And top three in the history of these United States of America.
He's not perfect.
Administrations are never perfect.
You deal with massive amounts of people that you're working with.
But he is an individual, as a president, is the president at the time needed.
And he speaks directly.
He speaks honestly, sometimes too honestly, but there's no such thing as too much honesty.
And he's amazing.
He dealt with that question perfectly.
And he's right.
Between J.D. and Marco Rubio, I like JD.
I also like Marco, who has risen to the occasion in this second term.
Well, you know, I think Trump did say something, though, that resonated with me that there's no guarantee, even though Marco Rubio and JD Vance would be a hard ticket to beat in McKinney, you know, right near me, just north of me, a district that was 98% Trump voters just elected in a fill-in race for state senator, a Democratic candidate.
And a lot of people are going to underestimate Gavin Newsome or AOC, but the people that are blaming this loss are saying that the base is not energized.
So it's very important that JD Vance and Marco Rubio start laying the groundwork because they need to energize the base.
And nobody energizes the base better than Donald Trump.
So, you know, that's what it comes down to.
You're exactly right.
He's not going to be here in 2028, or maybe he does run as vice president and, you know, gets to do a little, you know, loop and swoop and become the president again.
That would be kind of funny and cool.
But at the end of the day, we need to actually take this serious because I don't want President Gavin Newsom sleeping with his staffers' wives.
And I don't want President AOC either.
So we really need to take this as a serious wake-up call, especially with the midterms coming up and less right here.
And also, you look, as he pointed out, the bench is pretty deep.
I mean, these are competent people in his administration.
And I could, I, I, obviously, I would vote for it with either one of them at the top and either one of them VP.
But let's continue with J.D. for a moment because I thought this was interesting from CBS.
Trump anti-fraud task force targeting California and more states to be led by JD Vance sources say, Alex, it seems to me to, you know, as we're all talking about fraud kind of secondary to the to the immigration and deportation thing, it seems like he's giving JD a real opportunity here.
Like if you can go in and be the czar, right, Kamala is the borders are big failure there.
But if you can be the czar to root out some of this corruption, that's quite a gift to hand you if you're going to run in three years from now.
Like he's giving him the opportunity to basically be the quarterback of the team, you know, even though Trump's a real quarterback.
I guess Trump's the owner and he's given JD Vance the ability to be the quarterback.
But, you know, like I said, when it comes to the Trump administration, I love Donald Trump.
But I think if the midterms go south, then a lot of people are going to lose their jobs.
Not JD Vance, obviously, but it's just really important that JD Vance starts stacking up wins now so that the voters are energized to support him because it's his position to lose.
And I think he's on the fast track to be the president.
But what the real sad tragedy in all this is I think Charlie Kirk was a dark horse candidate to be involved somehow.
And I would have loved President Charlie Kirk or Vice President Charlie Kirk because he was young.
He has the base energized.
I think that would have been an unbeatable ticket with Charlie Kirk on it.
And I don't think there's any way around it, which leads you to maybe ask a few more questions as to how it occurred because it wasn't just an assassination of someone with a mic who does debates.
It was a preemptive assassination of a future president of America.
Oh, I'll say something just to Alexon, you know, like where you say we have two very talented, very, you know, capable candidates.
And I'm not trying to be funny.
When it comes to the left and Democrats, you know, competence is almost a liability, not an asset.
What sells is the Zorhan Mamdani, which is why I think AOC is particularly politically potent.
She, you know, she can sell you something and to the low-level information voters, they'll buy it.
Like Zoran Mandani sold socialism and New Yorkers bought it and the competence of the alternatives almost as a liability where it's too complicated to understand what JD is going to say, what Rubio is going to say.
But my prediction for the winningest ticket of all time is JD Vance for the president and Tulsi Gabbard for VP.
It's like, I agree with your prescription on the Democrats.
And it's in a way, it's like, why we have to root for the failure of New York City because only the failure of New York City could do some damage to AOC or whoever it's going to be on that side.
It's crazy, crazy.
Let's jump to one other thing because my favorite political pundit these days is Nikki Minaj.
And here she is going after Gavin Newsom.
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And he's making a fool out of himself like when he went all the way to another country to speak ill of the country and the president.
We would never want someone like that to be our president.
Americans are so big on loyalty.
And that just showed us all you do not have a loyal bone in your body and no one is going to vote for you.
No, no, the fact that he goes there as though he's some form of political, meaningful international political representative, it just shows his aspirations to be president.
But Nikki's right and wrong on the one hand, like, yeah, he's a traitor, traitorist of sorts, disloyal to the country.
That sells with Democrats.
That sells with people who think that their country is inherently evil, and they have to go on some groveling pity tour to apologize for the evils that their country has, you know, committed nationally or domestically and internationally.
So, you know, she identifies his fault, but that's actually an asset among his demographic.
They want to shit on America and they want someone who's going to go abroad and do it proudly.
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Let's change topics altogether because I thought this was just heartwarming.
Let me see if I can break some of the ice off both of your cold hearts here because this is just an absolutely incredible story.
No sarcasm right here.
This is from Colin Rugg on Twitter.
New 13-year-old Australian boy swims for four hours in cold and dangerous waters to save his mom and siblings who were swept into the ocean says God is who got him back to shore.
The family was on kayaks and paddleboards when they were swept out about two and a half miles out to sea.
After a conversation with his mother, Austin Appleby decided he would swim back to shore to find help.
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Everything goes through your head as a woman.
Did I make the wrong decision by sending him because I knew he was the strongest thing you could do?
I would have never went because I wouldn't have left kids at sea.
My not-so-funny joke is the kid doesn't need to get baptized.
He got baptized through that four-hour journey and finding God.
It reminds me, I think it's, I want to say Nietzsche or Kierkegaard who says, you know, the value in prayer is the change internally that it brings about in the person in terms of their connection to a God.
You know, it's amazing.
I don't know that as a parent, if I would ever let my kid do that.
I mean, A, I would think I would want to do it myself, but B, I would say take our chances in the kayaks and drift, but swimming through four hours of cold shark-infested water, swimming for four hours on ordinary circumstances is impossible.
It's a miracle.
Nothing shy of it.
And this kid for the rest of his life is going to have a very meaningful connection to God.
It's called This Week on the Internet, a little bit of television style comedy for you guys.
Just bear with me as we do this because, guys, a lot happens on the internet.
And we are an internet show here to cover it.
This week on the internet, guys, while Billie Eilish in her $14 million mansion lectures us about how no one's illegal on stolen land, the Tongva tribe says, hey, colonizer, how about you give us our land back?
The Tongva tribe literally wrote, as the first people of greater Los Angeles Basin, we do understand that her home is situated on ancestral land.
Eilish has not contacted our tribe directly regarding her property.
So the question is this, Billy, are you going to give the land back?
You could maybe open it up to Kilmora Brego Garcia.
Or are you just afraid to be hit hard and soft?
You get it, guys?
Because that was her album, and he hit his wife with a boot.
Speaking of getting hit hard, Trump may smack Trevor Noah with a lawsuit over his Epstein joke at the Grammys.
We're told his lawsuit could hit harder than this.
I love how Viva, you want to take your headphones off for a second?
Your hair is the most psychotic, overgrown, maniacal creature I've ever seen attached to someone's head to the point that we were in Ubers together and it was touching me at times.