Dave Rubin confronts Ilhan Omar over a $9 billion fraud scandal and criticizes Minnesota officials for anti-American rhetoric amid escalating ICE violence in Minneapolis. He details the origins of his platform Locals, built after leaving Patreon in 2019 with funding from Scott Adams and an anonymous billionaire, eventually selling it entirely for stock rather than cash. The episode also covers Iran tensions, medicalization of obesity, and a post-game show where Joseph Sanok grades the program 9.8 before signing off in Chinese. [Automatically generated summary]
Obviously, a lot going on with this Minneapolis craziness and the pushback against ICE and the anti-American lunatics in the Democrat Party, like Ilhan Omar and Jacob Fray and the rest of it.
Anyway, Joseph is over there and he is prepared to jump in at any point if I say something that's incorrect, if he feels that I need to say something that I haven't got to, and he will be reading the community QAs.
We're just testing out a little something because what we always wake up and say here is, what can we do to make a better program?
Most of the other online shows, they're just making you stupid, angry, impotent, negligent, degenerate, like, et cetera.
We're doing something a little different around here.
All right, let's get back to it because some of the craziness in Minneapolis has escalated and it started with an event that took place last evening.
Listen to this from Fox News.
The incident began at about 6.50 p.m. local time when federal law enforcement attempted to make a traffic stop, according to DHS, who added that the suspect was released into the country under Biden in 2022.
The suspect attempted to evade arrest by driving off, but crashed into a parked car, DHS said.
He then fled on foot.
According to DHS, when an officer caught up to the suspect and attempted to take him into custody, the suspect resisted and violently assaulted the officer.
DHS said two additional individuals came out of a nearby apartment while the officer and suspect were engaged in a struggle on the ground and attacked the officer with a snow shovel and a broom handle.
The original suspect broke free during the altercation and also began striking the officer with a shovel or broom handle, according to DHS.
The officer fired defensive shots to defend his life, DHS said, and the suspect was hit in the leg.
All three suspects then barricaded themselves in an apartment before being taken into custody, DHS said.
So of course, now we have another escalation of everything, right?
We already have the incident a couple days ago with the woman in Minneapolis who was parking her car in the middle of the street to stop traffic, who was apparently basically a paid professional protester who put her car into forward and then was shot by the ICE officer, who also has injuries, by the way.
But now we have just more sort of fuel on the fire with this incident.
Putting aside who you think the good guys and bad guys are and all of that stuff.
And I know if you're watching the show, we're largely on the same side of this stuff and we see things in a similar way.
But putting aside all of that, putting aside Minneapolis, putting aside illegals and everything else, if an officer approaches you, whether it's a federal officer or it's a state trooper or your local police or whatever it is, and you start, well, first off, if you evade them, right?
So if you start running away, they're going to try to get you and you could get shot.
If you and then some of your friends then hit them with brooms and ice picks and you throw things at them and everything else, there's a good chance you're all going to be shot.
But what the Democrats have now created is a situation that police and law enforcement at every level, federal, local, et cetera, is not respected at all.
They've been running around saying that the woman who got shot, who almost killed the ICE officer via the car, which is a weapon of death if you choose to use it as such, they're saying that that was a cold-blooded murder.
Those are the words from Ilhan and AOC, et cetera, et cetera, that it was murder.
So putting aside that she was shot and killed and nobody wanted that, right?
You think the ICE officer woke up that morning and was like, yes, I'm going to just kill somebody for no reason today.
It's completely absurd.
They are trying to do their job in unimaginably difficult circumstances.
But putting all the specifics of that aside, as a general rule, the Democrats have now created a situation where they've ramped up the anger, the fear.
They've lied about so much.
They've made it so clear that you just don't have to listen to police officers.
Look at the protests that happen, the pro-Hamas stuff that happens in New York City and all these cities every week.
They take over streets and police just stand there and don't know what to do.
And they get in their face and they spit at them and they throw things at them and all of those things.
And the police are not even empowered properly.
So at every level, particularly in blue states, it doesn't happen here in Florida, obviously, and it doesn't really happen in Texas and some of the other states, but particularly in blue cities and states, there's no respect for law enforcement.
And then once you have that no respect and you add some of the toxicity of the rhetoric around this stuff, you're going to get incidents like this.
This guy that thinks he can just run away and then other people that think they can jump and attack.
Anyway, shortly after that happened, of course, they then use this to get out there and create more chaos.
Here are ICE protesters clashing with ICE and stealing a rifle.
Now, think to the backdrop as we show you this.
What would you do if you were an ICE officer?
You've been tasked with getting illegals out of Minneapolis.
That's what they're doing there right now.
And you're being attacked by people and they are quite literally stealing rifles out of ICE vehicles.
Okay, so I'm going to offer a challenge right now to Kristi Noem and we should try to, can we contact her people and let's try to get her on the show for next week.
But my challenge, and I think she's been excellent at this and I think her messaging has been good and she's great on TV and all that.
My challenge is, Connor, I think you grabbed the still on that.
Who is this guy?
This guy, I'm pretty sure we'll be able to identify him.
I don't think a lot of people have that lovely tattoo on their face, right?
Unless that's Mike Tyson, we can pretty much figure out who this guy is.
That guy stole a rifle out of an ICE vehicle, and he's not the only one.
And that is very clear, simple video of people destroying federal government property.
You can catch these people.
We need to know their names.
And so this is just a kind of Kirsty, I'm offering you a simple challenge here.
Find that guy and arrest him.
How much longer can this last?
And this is the other problem here.
They've now, because they've ginned these people up.
You know, can you play the video and I can just speak over it for just a sec?
So they can get in the middle of the street and block traffic, take hammers and break into ICE vehicles and literally steal rifles.
Think at the level that they have been ginned up to.
Most of them aren't even wearing masks, which usually they're wearing either terrorist masks or COVID masks.
And then look at the chaos there.
Does that look like it should be the streets of New York City or is that Mogadishu?
So the problem is they are not going to stop now, right?
And on the other side of that, this isn't the problem.
This is just the reality.
Trump cannot stop, I would say.
He can't say, okay, well, they've really created a lot of chaos there, and I don't like what's happening in Minneapolis, so we lose.
Like he can't wave the white flag.
So we now have a situation where there's one side that happens to be right, I would say.
That's the Trump side.
But you have two sides that in some sense need to ramp things up because they view this as something they cannot lose.
A woman who should be denaturalized and deported is Ilhan Omar, representative from Minneapolis, obviously, who married her brother in an illegal immigration scheme.
So she just, she should not be a member of Congress.
And then they're creating other crimes when they are here because you're telling me, what did she just say?
She doesn't have any evidence that they've committed any crimes.
Well, hot diggity dam, check these three lookers out.
You know who these three guys are?
Well, these there are 13 guys are all various people who've been, they're all illegals who have been arrested by ICE in Minnesota.
Many of them are gang members from left to right.
We can do this kind of quick.
We won't talk about all of them.
There's Jose Miguel Reyes Hovel, a criminal illegal alien from El Salvador, known as an MS-13 gang member.
He's been convicted of homicide, drug trafficking, and selling amphetamine.
You've got Hatun Min Pai, a criminal illegal alien from Burma and former member of the Southside Crisps, who's been convicted of three counts of felony, drug possession, one count of misdemeanor, drug possession, and fraud.
You've got Alfredo Garcia Areola, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, an active member of the Paseas gang, who's been convicted of felony, dangerous drug charges, misdemeanor assaults, smuggling, synthetic narcotics, and more.
Congresswoman Omar, yesterday you told me to please read when I asked you about the $9 billion fraud that you denied is happening, but I have it right here.
I read, look, Chairman Comer opens here on massive fraud scandal, $9 billion.
You're doing far better work than anyone at CNN or MS Now or any of these places.
And keep it up and we'll keep promoting the hell out of you.
And no, Omar has nothing.
She has nothing to say back other than just like just glib drivel.
There's nothing because she is caught in a bribery scheme.
She is now called an ICE agent a murderer.
It is her streets that are being destroyed and they're being destroyed because she has ginned up her own people to stop federal law enforcement from doing the very thing that Donald Trump was voted in to do that they are legally doing.
Here's a little bit more because as I said, Trump cannot back down right now.
Like he can't lose this.
The presidency would be over if he just cedes the streets to the crazies.
So he put this up on Truth Social.
Effective February 1st, no more payments will be made by the federal government to the states for their corrupt criminal protection centers known as sanctuary cities.
All they do is breed crime and violence.
If states want them, they will have to pay for them, make America great again.
Phoenix, can you find that video of when you and I were walking in New York City and we walked by the road, what was it, the Roosevelt Hotel that had turned into a thing?
We're going to pull that up, something that we did in New York about a year ago.
But this should have been done.
Well, first off, the very notion of a sanctuary city should have never been allowed to take root, right?
The idea that the local city can decide to override federal jurisdiction and then, in essence, take over immigration.
That's what they're doing.
And then give them services and steal from the taxpaying citizens who are legally in New York and everything else.
So the very idea of sanctuary cities should have never happened in the first place.
But the fact that Trump is finally now saying, okay, you want to do this, New York, which Mom Dami has said before he was even elected that he wants to keep running with this thing, if that's what you want, then you will get it.
However, you will not get federal funds.
So congratulations to everyone in New York City who voted in for Mom Dami, and congratulations to everyone who voted for Ilhan, et cetera.
You are going to lose federal funds while your streets will become more unsafe.
And the very people who are the few remaining law-abiding citizens will have to foot the bill on the destruction of their lives and communities.
It's absolutely insane, but perfect for 2026 Democrats.
Here is Jacob Frey, the pandering, ridiculous mayor of Minneapolis, and again, just ginning it up, ginning it up.
And we're in a position right now where we have residents that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have to fight ICE agents on the street to stand by their neighbors.
We cannot be at a place right now in America where we have two governmental entities that are literally fighting one another.
Imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear.
Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted.
The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're scared that their own family might get torn apart.
Imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare.
I just told Joseph, what we're going to do, we're going to AI that because what he said there, imagine if your town was invaded by thousands of federal agents.
And then he lists some problems that would happen.
How about this, guys?
Imagine if your city was invaded by thousands of illegals.
It does, and they're trying one of the things the Democrats do really well, and this is what suicidal empathy is, which is Gadsad's new book.
They are trying to make it seem like if you protect yourself, if you protect your family and your community and your country, that you are inherently a bad guy.
But everything they do is to protect the bad guys.
And this is maybe the perfect example of that.
Tim Walz, the now disgraced governor of Minnesota, who will not be running for re-election because he's caught up in the money laundering scheme.
Here he is telling people not to report the illegals, but to report ICE.
Tonight, I want to share another way you can help.
Witness.
Help us establish a record of exactly what's happening in our communities.
You have an absolute right to peacefully film ICE agents as they conduct these activities.
So carry your phone with you at all times.
And if you see these ICE agents in your neighborhood, take out that phone and hit record.
Help us create a database of the atrocities against Minnesotans, not just to establish a record for posterity, but to bank evidence for future prosecution.
People have a right to use their phones and record things.
That's just fine.
But why don't you care about the law-abiding tax-paying citizen of Minnesota?
And instead, you care that ICE is going in and getting the illegals.
I think Elon Musk's version of this would be that they want the Democrats want the illegals there because they're importing new voters.
And I think there's every reason to think that that is true.
But across the just like the entire board, the entire, this is if this was a board game, the entire board is filled with Democrat pieces and Democrat cities that are doing crazy things.
Where is Sri Thandakar from?
What does Congressman treat three?
We've shown you this guy before.
Guy's got the funniest toupee I've ever seen.
He's from Michigan.
Okay, so Sri Thandakar or Sri Thanadar is a congressman from Michigan.
He's a rather curious cat.
And here he is calling for the impeachment of Christine.
Like, where in the world, in what version of the simulation are we in that they're like, we are going to, we're not even going to try when we're coming up with characters to make them believable.
We're going to come up with the most over-the-top ridiculous things ever.
And on top of that, Connor, you got a screenshot for me.
There's what's his name behind him, Al Green with the cane, the man who's literally morphing into a werewolf in front of our eyes.
It's like, dude, just a razor.
Just knock that thing down like two inches and you'd look like a normal human being.
But okay, you know, look, I don't want people, the last thing that I want is viewers of the Rubin Report to suddenly see something like that and then be racist against the Indian community because Indians have been an incredible part of America, often the most pro-American, working all sorts of jobs at bodegas and all sorts of things that people don't want to do.
As a matter of fact, you might remember this local business leader from Springfield.
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All right, here's your last question.
What was the cause of the Civil War?
Actually, there were numerous causes.
Aside from the obvious schism between abolitionists and anti-abolitionists, economic factors, both domestic and international, play the significant slavery it is, sir.
Abby, it's just like, you're just not good at your show.
I always say there's just so little behind the eyes there.
It's the tactics of ICE.
What illegal tactics are ICE using?
ICE are going in, and it's because of what you people created.
ICE would not be on the streets right now if Joe Biden and or the Autopen had not let in 21 million people.
We could have kept going.
I mean, this is the ultimate irony of all of this is that, well, there's layers of irony.
One layer of irony would be that Obama has kicked out in his eight years far more people than Trump has kicked out in his five years.
But putting that aside for a second, if you guys would have just not completely destroyed the border and let in around 21 million people, then they'd still be trickling in.
So this is completely, completely on you.
The guy who caused this all to go sort of nuclear, of course, was Nick Shirley, who's just an independent creator.
He's got a phone and he's doing more good work than basically CBS, NBC, and ABC and CNN put together.
Here he is back in Minnesota and a Somali man approaches him and of course accuses him of Islamophobia because he was able to find out that children's daycare centers that didn't exist were getting millions of dollars, which somehow is Islamophobic.
Is it Nick Shirley who's just going around to places and finding insane amounts of fraud, literally to the point that a man who was going to be vice president right now is not even going to run for governor anymore of the state of Minnesota.
Who is more anti-American?
Is it that guy, Nick Shirley, who's just out there doing what journalists used to do, right?
I translate some of the nonsense, hopefully in a somewhat fun way, and I communicate the news to you guys.
But all of these people that sit at desks are not journalists.
The journalists are the ones who are out there on the street figuring out what's going on.
And then other people can comment on it, right?
Nick Shirley's an actual journalist.
There's almost none left.
I would say Andy No is an actual journalist.
That girl, Allison Steinberg, she seems like a journalist.
If you're out there getting information from the direct sources, doing the work as the Democrats always say, then you're a journalist.
So who's anti-American?
Is it Nick Shirley who's finding out that there is a massive billion dollar plus money laundering scheme that largely is connected to the Somali community in Minnesota?
Or is it that guy?
Or is it that guy who's getting in his face and screaming at him and calling him Islamophobic?
The implication would be that if Nick Shirley found out that there was a, let's say, a white Christian community somewhere in Utah that was laundering hundreds of millions and billions of dollars, that he wouldn't be covering it.
And that is completely absurd.
And I assure you that if there is such a thing, and we might find out that there is, I have a feeling that there's all sorts of slush funds and money laundering things going through all sorts of communities.
This is a couple months ago, about the political correctness around what we are allowed to talk about and not allowed to talk about, because clearly they don't want Nick Shirley talking about a certain something.
And then there's probably always a political intuition I have on this too, which is that perhaps if you have ideas that are taboo, that you're not allowed to discuss, my shortcut is to suspect they're simply correct.
And so the example I always give is Professor Bob Laughlin who's a Stanford physics professor.
I think around 1998, he gets a Nobel Prize in Physics.
And he suffers from the extreme delusion that now that he has a Nobel Prize, he finally has academic freedom and can talk about whatever he would like to talk about.
But he picked one that's even more dangerous than any of those three.
He believed that most of the scientists, so-called scientists, were basically stealing money from the government, engaging in borderline fraudulent science, started by talking about naming people.
This person has stole money and this person is a fraud.
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And I mean, I don't even need to tell you how that movie ended.
And so, and then my hermeneutic of suspicion is if you have an idea like stagnation in science, which immediately gets you deplatformed, that's an idea we should take very seriously.
So the point of what he's illustrating there is that even those who you think are going to get as close to the truth as possible, they often get taken out by the machine in some sense.
You have a Nobel winning scientist who starts calling out fraudulence in these departments, mostly college departments, doing all these scientific papers and research and all these things.
And then he gets the boot because they're all kind of in on it.
And I think that maybe explains what the modern Democrat Party is more than anything else.
They're all in on the money laundering to some extent, which is how they get so freaking rich.
Now, by the way, this is not something that is exclusive to them.
The Republicans have a version of it too.
But when it comes to sort of the holistic, we are going to destroy the United States and pilfer every last piece and pull the copper out of the wall as we're taking the place out, the Democrats are all kind of in on it.
So you cannot call anything out.
That's why a guy like John Fetterman, who is a Democrat for some reason still, when he pokes them now, what are they doing?
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And speaking of a stronger future, the question right now, sort of across planet Earth, is will the people of Iran have a better, more secure, freer future and not have to live under the oppression of the Ayatollah and the mullahs?
That remains a little unclear.
So there's a few things breaking right now.
So we're going to just get you caught up starting yesterday, which yesterday afternoon, Trump sort of made it sound like the killing has stopped and he may take a pause on all of this.
Let me first preface this by saying I think Donald Trump deserves every single bit of trust on this right now.
He has consistently proven himself, whether it is everything that happened with Israel and Hamas, whether it is what just happened with Maduro or what has happened at the border and ICE and a series of other things, that he is playing a chess game, right?
He knows how to negotiate and everything that he is doing, in many cases, is a misdirection while he's doing something else, and that he does follow through on his words.
So that would be my bumper sticker version of all of this.
Now, if it is true that the Iranian regime has at least temporarily stopped the killing, now it sounds like 12 to 20,000 people have already been killed.
But if they have temporarily stopped the killing, the question, I suppose, is, well, okay, so if no one's going to do anything, and again, as I said yesterday, it doesn't mean America is supposed to do anything or has to do anything.
But if we don't do anything, no one does.
That's just reality.
Well, if the killing has stopped and that's just kind of enough and the regime stays in power, well, then all of this was for nothing.
I don't really think with the rhetoric that Trump has put out there over the last week or so that he really thinks this is the end.
So, of course, then the question that the reporter asks, such as Symbol, does this mean the military options on the table?
And then he, again, he's just honest.
He's like, well, I don't know.
We got to see what happens here.
So now there's been a few moves over the last even 16 hours or so.
This was yesterday afternoon, according to Grok.
U.S. withdraws personnel from the Al-Udid base.
The U.S. began withdrawing non-essential personnel from key Middle East bases, including Al-Udid Air Base in Qatar, the largest U.S. military facility in the region and a potential target for Iranian retaliation.
Qatar confirmed the moves, and CENCOM activated a coordination cell at Al-Udid for integrated air and missile defense.
A U.S. official described the atmosphere as one where all signals point to an imminent attack.
So at first, we're moving our troops or moving personnel out of a base in Qatar.
And you may remember that during the Israel-Iran war, Iran lobbed a couple rockets at the Qatar base.
I don't think anyone was injured in that, but that was sort of their paper tiger version of retaliation.
But because we were moving personnel out, which was very similar to what happened last time there was the Iran kerfuffle with Israel, people started thinking, okay, America's about to attack.
Well, then we got an update from last night, also from Grok.
Outcome, no U.S. strikes occurred, and the day ended without major escalation, though tensions remained high.
Iranian ambassador to Egypt described the country in a state of war.
So the question I would say here is, what is Trump doing?
And I will not pretend that I know the answer to that.
I don't know any better than you do.
But what I do know is, as I said, I think he deserves a very long leash that he knows what he is doing here.
And then again, the question, the secondary question would be, let's say the killing just stops.
Like, let's say the regime just stops.
They've killed enough people.
They've scared the resistance enough.
And they're just ready to go back to, you know, how things were the day before.
It's like, is that tolerable that we'll just do this again in a couple of years?
And again, none of that makes it so we have to attack or anything like that.
Like, I'm not, I'm actually not sitting here saying that, but I just know it's just, it's just a hard and fast rule of the world.
The United States is the last moral authority in the world.
And we're still the ones that can do incredible military things.
And we are not, Donald Trump is not going to get us into some farcical, crazy occupation adventure like we did with Afghanistan and Iraq and the chaos that Barack Obama did in Libya and all those things.
So the question is, what is he up to?
I don't think we know just yet, but we will find out.
I thought this meme probably explains it perfectly more than anything else.
I might do it.
I might not do it.
I might have already done it.
Nobody knows Trump Zoo.
Like that, that pretty much, I think, gets it right there.
He's doing a lot of things at once.
And there is an art of war element to this.
And I just think, I know that the people of Iran and Iranian supporters, Persians here in America, want something done immediately, but I think the guy deserves some leash here.
Here's Marco Rubio.
This is about a year and a half ago talking about the Iranian regime.
And the only thing that Iran cares about more, the only thing they care about more than being the most powerful country in the Middle East, the only thing they care about more is regime survival, surviving in power.
And I think Donald Trump is a threat to that, which is why they want to kill him.
There's also been some reporting that some of the regime, the higher-ups, have actually moved like hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars out of Iran, largely towards Europe.
Maybe some of them are going to take refuge in Turkey.
So the game is afoot.
So let's leave that there.
I want to do a couple other things before we get to the community Q ⁇ A. There's no real segue here, but let's just chalk this up to the weak and insane woke lunacy.
This is Dr. Anya Jastabaroff talking about how obesity is not a choice.
And then we'll chime in with Oprah, who apparently came out of the forest.
She's always eating bread in the forest with some friends, but she's making the TV rounds.
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Obesity is about biology.
Obesity is not a choice.
It is not a personal failure.
It is not something that someone decides to have.
Two-thirds of Americans did not wake up one morning and decide to have a disease.
They want you to really think that you have no autonomy over your life, that obesity is a disease.
Now, I don't even want to get into like the strict technical definition of obesity and even the strict technical definition of disease.
But why is it that they want you to sort of think?
It's kind of the same thing with alcohol, alcoholism, that it's a disease.
It's like it's a choice, right?
Now, some people may have a proclivity towards it.
Some people may have, there might be some genetic component to having a more addictive personality.
You might grow up in a family that has a whole bunch of alcohol and alcoholics around so that you're around it more and you start drinking more.
There's also reverse versions of that where kids that, you know, grow up in families that are completely dry and there's no alcohol in the house, they go to college and then they suddenly see something for the first time and they can't control it.
But the general notion there that the doctor wants you to think that obesity is not a choice and then you have Oprah backing it up.
It's like Oprah, you could just eat less.
Now, I'm not saying you don't have some sort of proclivity or anything else.
You could just eat less, spend less time in the forest eating bread.
Do you remember that commercial?
Yeah, that she was just always in the forest with like a chandelier under a tree eating bread.
It was like, lady, how about take a walk instead?
But okay, so you could, but they don't want you to think that.
And your refusal to recognize women as women and men as men is deeply corrosive to science, to public trust, and yes, to constitutional protections for women as women.
Now, the reason I want to show you that, we're going to do one other clip here before we get to the QA is because when we looked at that clip this morning, it's like, that shit feels kind of old now, doesn't it?
Like, we've really moved past this.
Like, you can fully mock these people.
If that woman is your doctor, you need to fire her.
She should not be your doctor.
She does not understand basic biology, okay?
But something has shifted in the culture where we can now make fun of these people and you're not going to have your YouTube channel deleted or whatever else.
And interestingly, there's a show that's doing quite well.
I haven't seen it.
I've seen this clip.
I don't subscribe to Paramount, but on the Paramount streaming app, they've got a show called Landman.
And there was this interesting thing going viral, just sort of mocking this woke gender pronoun lunacy.
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Take a look.
So what are your pronouns?
My pronouns?
I hope that's pretty clear.
Yeah, I don't make assumptions.
You could identify as a sunflower.
You know, I've been told I look like one.
I use they them.
You know, I've always been curious why they them.
Because there's just one of you, and those are plural pronouns.
Just never really understood the hoopla pronouns.
My name's Ainsley.
And I just can't really come up with a reason why you would address me in third person in a conversation that I'm a part of.
So if you do, I'm probably not there.
So I wouldn't really know what pronouns you're using, anyways.
So why would it matter?
Yeah, I don't get the sense that she wants me to express myself at all.
Oh, so well, for example, their pronouns.
Here we go.
What?
Nothing.
I'm just preparing myself to be offended.
No means.
I don't care what someone's pronouns are.
I just, I mean, using a plural pronoun for one person is just kind of incorrect.
But in any event, he's coming back in the next couple of weeks.
Yes, it is Monday.
Okay, so it's February 2nd.
He is coming back.
Yes, we are going to do a sit-down.
We will hopefully live stream it maybe on both our channels.
We're trying to figure out where to do it because we may, he also is on the East Coast here in Florida, but we may jump over to the West Coast and go to Rumble Studios in Longboat Key and do it from there.
We'd like to do some kind of live event to welcome him back.
So I'm discussing that with the Rumble people.
But I'm really, really thrilled that Dan will be back.
You know, I've mentioned this a couple of times recently, but it's not just that we lost Charlie.
We temporarily have lost Jordan Peterson.
We temporarily have lost Dennis Prager.
Just two days ago, Scott Adams is no longer with us.
Like Victor Davis Hansen, who we've been trying to get on the show for quite some time, he just had a tumor removed.
He's MIA at the moment.
He's been great.
So we've really lost some great people.
And then Bongino, you know, he removed himself from the chessboard to serve his country.
What could it possibly be more honorable than that?
I mean, the guy literally walked away from millions of dollars last year to do this, to take a government job and then have so many people hate him and all of these things.
So I'm thrilled, thrilled, thrilled to have him back.
And yeah, we're going to do it.
So I assume it'll probably be first week in February.
Well, look, if the government fell, if the Ayatollah was gone, if the Mullahs were gone, if the Persian people took Iran back and Iran became something like a liberal democracy again, yes.
If I felt that there was enough, you know, it's funny, we're probably going back to London in June for another of Jordan Peterson's art conferences.
And it's like I go to London and it doesn't feel particularly safe there when I'm walking down the streets.
I mean, there are Islamists everywhere.
They're not big fans of the show.
So would I not go to Iran if it actually got on the other side of this thing?
No, I would go.
It would be, I've never really, I don't know that it's ever popped in my mind that I would go to Iran, but I think if they actually had a revolution that worked and there were some layer of security that we would have to talk about, obviously, then yeah, we would probably do it.
I write all the questions, although most of the questions just kind of come, most, usually most questions just come to me while we are sitting there.
Joseph usually gives me a kind of basic rundown before just so I can get caught up, usually on, sometimes it's on dates or kind of like very, very specific bullet points, just to make sure I don't miss anything.
But, you know, it's interesting.
My interviewing style, I think, has had an evolution over the years.
When I first started doing long-form interviews back in this fall of 2015, I felt that I should always read the full book of the guest.
I should do a tremendous amount of research before and all that.
And I think it was, I suppose it was quite good.
And that's where people started finding out about me.
And I kind of brought the long form interview back.
It had kind of went away after Larry King left CNN.
And I'm very proud of that, that I was, I guess, a pioneer, I suppose, in that now everybody's got a podcast and everybody's interviewing everybody, everything else.
I think that's evolved over the years where then, where now I usually find that a little bit less is more, particularly if I'm sitting with someone, meaning I'm doing it live in studio, not just doing it on Zoom or something.
If I'm sitting with someone, I like just sitting down.
And you know how I usually do an interview.
I try to start it with, well, give me 30 seconds about yourself in case someone doesn't know who you are.
That kind of opens up the aperture a little bit.
And then I just kind of try to take it somewhere.
But I usually say to my guests before the show, if I'm not getting somewhere that you are interested in going to, try to get us there yourself.
But we don't edit for content.
I think we've only done it think once.
I could be wrong.
There was one guest we had on who was a bit drunk and high.
It's not worth throwing them under the bus.
And we did edit some stuff out.
But beyond that, we just let it fly.
And I try to push back when appropriate.
I try to just play along in that, you know, be as present as possible really in that hour.
Eurasian asks, do you think the ICE officer who shot Renee Goode has grounds to sue public figures who refer to his action as murder, which has a legal definition that was never supported by the evidence they act?
You know, I talked a bit about this earlier because AOC and I think Ilhan and a few others have said the word murder as it relates to all of this, which again, it's just a ramping up of the rhetoric, right?
It's different to say murder.
Well, it's different to say murder than homicide.
It's different to say murder than someone got shot.
Like there's a lot of things you can say, but they want the base, the crazies out there to think it was cold-blooded murder because once they think that, well, then what might you do?
Well, oh, there's an ice thing.
Let's grab, there's an ice car.
Let's grab a hammer and break into the back and literally steal a rifle from outside of the car.
Like let's burn down a pet boy's.
They murdered somebody.
So they want that ramped up.
That's an interesting question.
Could there be legal ramifications around it?
I mean, I suppose. that there may be, I don't know if it's legal in the most strict sense, meaning like they have the First Amendment right to say whatever they want.
Now, as a member of the government, as a member of Congress, your side could censure you for saying something, but we know the Democrats won't censor themselves for going too over the top.
Like that's kind of baked in at the moment.
So I don't know that there could be a lawsuit really around that.
It might be an interesting one to talk to Harmeet Dylan on as it relates to the First Amendment.
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And the reason for it was that I had a colonoscopy, which I was a little, I guess I didn't do enough research on to realize we were planning on doing a show.
Like Monday morning, I was going to be sitting here and there was simply no way I could sit in this seat for an hour.
If you understand what you have to do before a colonoscopy, you're drinking this, it was like called like Klonopic or something, not Klonopin, but something.
It was just, there's many versions of it that you take because you basically, you're clearing out your insight.
So it's just, you cannot sit fill, basically.
You're on the toilet nonstop.
Anyway, then you go under propofol, actually, is what they gave me, which is what killed Michael Jackson.
And I get in there and they were very, very friendly here.
And I wanted, a few people had said to me, oh, you know, see how long you can stay awake when they give you the anesthesia.
Can you try to count, see how far you can count?
Because it happens so quickly and people are always amazed by that.
And he goes, so are you going to watch the big Miami football game on Monday?
And I remember I was about to say to him, oh, I'm more of a basketball guy.
And then the next thing I remember, he goes, then that was the anesthesiologist.
The next thing I remember, the doc goes, okay, you're good to go.
Like it was, it's incredible how quickly it takes you out.
I don't think I could have counted to one.
I did sort of think when he asked me about the football game, that was like his little trick to get it in me without me, you know, because I guess people freak out when they see something, you know, a needle or whatever go in them.
But no, so I guess I did not, as far as I know, I did not say anything.
But I've been told that in the old days when I used to do the PRP for my hair, which was really, it's very painful.
It's a lot of needles in your head.
And I would do laughing gas.
And the gals used to say I was quite a hoot back then.
I've thought about this because, you know, this type of travel, there will be some element of space travel within my lifetime with the advances that Elon's having, like, and that we're having with AI and robotics and all of these things and 3D printing, you know, because eventually we're going to land on Mars or we're going to land on it.
We're going to figure out interstellar travel.
We're going to start landing on places.
We're going to drop 3D printers there and then they'll be able to build the things that'll get us to the next place.
Like there's so many cool things happening.
Would I ever do it if it really became, you know, it's like, what is safe?
And are there going to be, you know, unimaginable tragedies on the way?
And can you imagine the bravery of the people that are the first pioneers doing this?
You know, if you haven't seen it, I hope you've seen the movie Interstellar, which is one of my absolute favorite movies.
And in Interstellar, you know, they're trying to find life to get human, in essence, to get humans off Earth because the Earth is no longer producing food.
The soil is no longer good.
And, you know, they have their, what is it, 12.
They send 12 people.
One of them happens to be Matt Damon, who turns out to be a bad guy, spoiler alert.
But they send 12 people knowing they're on basically a one-way mission to another planet.
And the question you asked was round trip.
Look, I'm not good on roller coasters.
So I don't know how I would be going like in terms of the travel part of it.
Are they going to knock you out?
Are you sleeping for a portion of it?
Do they put you under like in an alien movie and cryo sleep and all that?
But putting aside the details, the concept of it, yes.
I think it would be absolutely incredible.
We're very close to the Elon interview, which I think might be happening in the next couple of weeks.
And I don't really want to focus on politics.
I want to focus more on some of this type of stuff and where he thinks the next horizons are for humanity.
So maybe I can ask him if he could throw me on a, I am getting another Tesla this week.
Trump removes all of ICE from Minnesota, then withhold all government funding, every single penny from the state of Minnesota, until they remove all the legals themselves.
Make them clean up their own state before they can get even a dime of federal funding.
Trump is saying on February 1st, you guys are, the federal funding is gone.
But the issue is that if he removes the federal funding, which he will, and if he then removes ICE, they are not going to do anything.
I mean, they've made it very clear ICE are the bad guys here.
So I love where you're at kind of conceptually, but unfortunately, in reality, they will do everything they can to hide as many of these people and get them somehow to vote and everything else as possible.
Like that's just the depressing reality around all of it.
Well, first off, if you have an idea, that's the most important thing, right?
Like if you have just some idea, you see some problem, some issue, whatever it might be, whether you're trying to build the next phone or a cool pair of glasses or a new pen or a tech company or a freaking mousetrap or whatever it might be.
If you just have an idea, that's the first thing.
So if you, let's assume you've got that.
You know, I did, I had no idea what to do.
When we, when we started locals, many of you know this, I was on Patreon.
That was the kind of ubiquitous subscription platform for people.
And then they were censoring all sorts of people.
And Jordan Peterson and I got out at the exact same time.
Sorry, I can't remember the full dates, but I think it was around early 19.
We were about to build something together.
Oh, yeah, because it was right after we toured.
So it was somewhere early 19 and he got quite ill.
And then I was like, all right, well, I want to build something.
Let me let me talk to, and it's a tech company.
Let me talk to my brother-in-law, who's a tech guy and a startup guy.
And he was like, all right, well, we'll build a subscription model for you and then we'll see what happens.
And we built it for us.
I left Patreon and thankfully to you guys, you came along with me and joined me on there.
And then we were like, we've got something really cool here.
And we could start adding new features and start doing live streams.
And we could do, you know, we could do tipping and we could do, you know, direct push notifications to just eliminate the middleman between me and my audience so that, you know, it's like on YouTube right now.
How many of you got this video because it showed up in your feed, even if you subscribe?
Like there's just no way of knowing what's going on with the game.
So first you have to have an idea.
Then you have to find somebody that can help you execute on it.
And in this case, it was my brother-in-law.
And then once we did that, I mentioned this the other day, we spun it off to a couple other people.
And one of the first, if not the first, was Scott Adams.
And Scott absolutely loved it.
And once Scott loved it and we saw a little traction there.
And then Scott said, hey, can I help you with funding?
I didn't even know, like, I didn't even know what to do with the money or anything.
It wasn't my money.
It was money for the company.
But Scott became an investor.
We made him a nice amount of money.
I'm very happy about that.
Start connecting with good people.
Tell them about it.
And you will find a way.
Actually, the first investor in locals, I don't know if he would want his name mentioned, so I won't say his name.
But one day I was doing a live stream and I started telling people about the idea we had come up with.
And I literally was like, you know, is there a billionaire out there watching this that wants to help?
And I got an email from somebody who I did not know, who was fairly well known in the tech world.
And he said, let's sit down.
And I happened to be going to Sonoma for my brother's 40th birthday.
And he lived near there.
And we met for coffee.
And right at that, I did not know this guy or anything else.
And he said, let me help you with this.
So you just make every connection possible and you work and work and work.
The craziest thing for me when I think back on all of this is that for those years that we were building locals, you know, that's when the show was taking off too, when the Rubin report, the daily show was really blowing up.
And you guys see the fruits of that, right?
But most of my days, I mean, I'm not kidding, sometimes six to 10 hours a day, I was just on Zoom calls every single day.
This is also like peak COVID nonsense.
I was just on Zoom calls, pitching and everything else.
And then the guy who really got everything to coalesce for us was I met this very nice woman at a party who came up to me and started chatting and she introduced me and she was a fan of the show.
I did not know who she was, but she was a fan.
We started chatting and then she said, I want you to meet my husband David.
And I chat with this nice guy, David, for about a half hour.
And then he walks away.
And someone comes up to me and says, oh, you know David Sachs?
And I was like, who's David Sachs?
He's like, well, that's the guy you were just talking to.
I had no idea who he was.
David Sachs, you know him now because we play clips of him all the time.
He's the AI and crypto czar, but he's also the co-host of the all-in podcast and he's a legendary investor.
And David, a week later, I called him and I said, hey, this is what we're doing.
Do you want to be involved?
He asked for some numbers.
We gave him some numbers.
when he jumped in, then many, many other big time people jumped in.
And then we had runway and we built something good.
So that was a very long answer to a short question, which is if you've got the idea, which hopefully you have already, just start doing it.
You will not know what the roadmap is exactly and things will change along the way and everything.
And you will put a hell of a lot of work in and not make a dime until hopefully it really comes together, right?
Like I never took one dime from locals until we sold it and we sold it all for stock.
So even when I sold it, I didn't take any cash per se.
But then it all did work out.
And if you build something good with good people, I really do believe good things will come of it.
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