Nov. 25, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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I get along with everybody. | |
| He says, I'm a man. | ||
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I'm running to be the next governor of California. | |
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Hello, everyone. | |
| It's... | ||
| It is Tuesday, November 25th, 2025. | ||
| I'm Dave Rubin, reporting live from the East Coast of the United States. | ||
| I'm trying to give you as much information up top as possible after not telling you the date the other way. | ||
| And we hear you. | ||
| I'm not going to belabor the point after today. | ||
| The date will always be at the top of the program. | ||
| Did I say this is the Rubin Report? | ||
| Did I say my name? | ||
| I did all that stuff. | ||
| Okay, then let's get to it. | ||
| We got a nice big, thick, dense show for you. | ||
| I want to start with a little bit of what I sense we're going to see more of over the next year. | ||
| As we roll into the midterms, you can really feel right now the Democrat Party has gone kind of crazy. | ||
| The wackos are in charge. | ||
| The moderates don't really know what to do. | ||
| On the right, it's very confusing. | ||
| If you look online on the right, and this is what much of today's show is going to be about, it seems like everyone's fighting and they all hate each other. | ||
| And there's sort of this Tucker wing that's against the Trump wing. | ||
| And then there's the Fuentes and the Frog people and everything else. | ||
| And it's like, is any of that real? | ||
| That doesn't seem to match up with what I'm seeing in reality, which is to me that Trump has as much support as ever. | ||
| People may not be thrilled with every decision, but there seems to be this real disconnect. | ||
| And I think what we're going to be seeing over the next, you know, well, basically it's a year from right around now is going to be a sort of realignment of everything. | ||
| I think you're going to see some weird things happen as it pertains to what political parties people are associating with and everything else. | ||
| So I thought this would be a nice way to start off the show. | ||
| Laura Trump went on Bill Maher's podcast. | ||
| And that goes to the heart of the realignment, that the moderate, decent liberals are finding the moderate, decent conservatives. | ||
| They're agreeing to disagree. | ||
| They're breaking bread. | ||
| They're drinking Copal tequila right there on the set. | ||
| And they will get into issues that they disagree on and do it respectfully. | ||
| And that is what America is actually all about, that battle of ideas right there. | ||
| So here they are, Marr and Lara Trump. | ||
| And he basically implying that what her father-in-law, Donald Trump, went through is kind of reminiscent of what all presidents go through, Obama, Clinton, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And she obviously disagreed. | ||
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Take a look. | |
| I can promise you this. | ||
| Our family has been scrutinized, attacked under a microscope. | ||
| I would probably argue more than any family. | ||
| Well, of course, because your grandfather, your father-in-law is the president. | ||
| Yeah, it's not just that he's the president. | ||
| It's that he's Donald Trump as the president. | ||
| I mean, they've gone after all of us in an aggressive way. | ||
| You know, they didn't go after Obama and Clinton in an aggressive way. | ||
| It's not like this, Bill. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Really? | ||
| When did you see Obama and Clinton's residences, personal private property, raided by the FBI? | ||
| When did they have indictments against them to put them in jail for the rest of their life? | ||
| And everybody can agree were a little outrageous, Bill. | ||
| Like, really? | ||
| I agree on the don't jump into somebody's bathroom, but also you shouldn't probably keeping files in your bathroom. | ||
| But yes, that was over the top. | ||
| It was a little over the top. | ||
| Over the top. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, first off, I just want to say how I really like both of them. | ||
| And I really like seeing people that can, you know, they have obviously different perspectives. | ||
| They come from things, different philosophical points of view and political lenses and all of those things, but they're doing it with a smile. | ||
| And if you watch the full conversation, they really clearly enjoy each other. | ||
| And I think, again, that goes to why it was wise when Donald Trump invited Bill Maher to the White House and just kind of break bread and let's be human beings. | ||
| Now, as to the content of that, I think anyone watching this, you're probably agreeing with Laura right there. | ||
| Like between the impeachments, between taking away business licenses in New York, a city that he basically built and had a huge amount of real estate in and virtually has nothing anymore, between going after the kids, trying to get him off ballots and all of those things. | ||
| Like you can say they went after Obama and Republicans didn't like Obama or that they went after Bill Clinton because he did take a cigar and put it inside an intern who was wearing a blue dress while talking on the phone with Trent Lott. | ||
| That did happen. | ||
| But like, I think empirically, we can all say they've gone after Trump in ways that they never went after anybody else. | ||
| You may remember this from about three, four weeks ago when I had Eric Trump on explaining how they've done just that. | ||
| We were dealing with Alvin Bragg. | ||
| We were dealing with Letitia James. | ||
| They were coming after us. | ||
| They were trying to bankrupt the Trump organization. | ||
| They were trying to get us debanked in every way possible. | ||
| Every day I was getting another subpoena, they were doing everything that they could to pull the rails out from under us. | ||
| Every attorney general was attacking us and suing us. | ||
| We're getting subpoenaed every single day. | ||
| Tens and tens of millions of dollars or documents in discovery production on every front. | ||
| The raids on Mar-a-Lago, the attacks on our employees, the attacks on me personally and everybody in the family. | ||
| They were trying to divide the family. | ||
| They were trying to split up the family. | ||
| That was the nature of the siege. | ||
| And that's before they turned to physical violence, i.e., Butler, i.e., the golf course incident, i.e., Charlie Kirk, right? | ||
| I mean, they wanted to do anything they could to silence our voice and put us under siege. | ||
| Okay, so putting aside the family stuff, I mean, yes, they did drag Eric and Don and all these other guys up in front of congressional hearings. | ||
| And oh my God, Don Jr. had lunch with a Russian on the Upper East Side seven years ago for 15 minutes, like all of this craziness. | ||
| But he illustrates the wider point of how they went after the family. | ||
| So let's just put that aside for a moment because the part that I thought was most interesting in that little chat that they had at Club Random was here they are talking about what's been going on on the right that I've been referencing. | ||
| That there seems to be, at least online, there is a schism between sort of the Tucker Nick Fuentes isolationist, like hyper-libertarian part of the right. | ||
| And I would say basically the rest of MAGA, which is probably about 90% of MAGA. | ||
| They're just not as loud as that other thing. | ||
| So here Bill and Lara talk about what defines MAGA. | ||
| Who's in MAGA? | ||
| There are people who I wouldn't have here, like that little prick Nick Fuentes. | ||
| That is an unfortunate individual. | ||
| And I hate that he gets associated so closely with the MAGA movement, with my father-in-law, with all of this stuff, because that. | ||
| They should denounce him more forcefully. | ||
| Well, I mean, maybe you're right, but he is certainly not the representative that I think any of us. | ||
| I would hope the problem. | ||
| One of the problems with your father-in-law is like, if anybody likes him, he has a real hard time not liking them. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I mean, this thing of him, anybody who likes me, I can't quite denounce. | ||
| But this Fuentes trick, like Trump is not Hitler. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, Larry David said I had dinner with Hitler because it was such a bullshit thing. | ||
| Trump is not Hitler. | ||
| This Fuentes kid, that's Hitler. | ||
| No, there's nothing I will say that I've heard come out of his mouth that I think I agree with or many people who consider themselves MAGA. | ||
| And quite frankly, the fact that he's got a Trump flag up behind him shouldn't say that, you know, we agree with him. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So I don't want to dive too far into this Fuentes kid because I get it. | ||
| He's just an internet creation and sort of an avatar and troll and whatever. | ||
| But I do think it was important that, again, two people who disagree on politics. | ||
| And there is Bill basically being like, you know, your father-in-law likes anyone who likes him. | ||
| And she kind of nods with him and smiles and agrees with that. | ||
| But then in the next breath, but he's not Hitler, which everyone knows Trump isn't Hitler. | ||
| So for her to say that she doesn't want this Fuentes kid in the MAGA-wide tent, I think is actually important. | ||
| Like conservatism, and it's not even conservatism, but MAGA, make America great again. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything unless you can say, well, what is America that is good? | ||
| What is worth making great again? | ||
| And if you say, well, everyone can be in on this, including people that are on Team Hitler and love Stalin and hate black people and obsessed with Jews and all that stuff. | ||
| Well, then it's not that great. | ||
| I would say that at the very least. | ||
| So I thought that that was quite good. | ||
| But I do want to connect this to something else because obviously a lot of what has sort of brought this Fuentes kid into the zeitgeist has been his appearance on Tucker where Tucker offered no pushback. | ||
| Now, again, Tucker can interview anyone he wants, just like I can interview anyone I want. | ||
| You can criticize him, just like Tucker goes on and criticizes all sorts of people. | ||
| It's a two-way street. | ||
| You can get criticized and you can be criticized and everyone's allowed to fight it all out. | ||
| But I did think this was interesting as Laura is talking about what MAGA is and that she doesn't want people like this, you know, this sort of racist trolley, whatever that thing is. | ||
| Here is Tucker talking about who he opposes. | ||
| And it's interesting to the backdrop of her saying that she doesn't want Fuentes in MAGA. | ||
| He didn't even support Donald Trump, this Nick Fuentes kid. | ||
| He supported Kamala Harris. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| And on the Republican Party, which is almost to the point where it's just useless, and I'm going to have to oppose it because they're just, I hate them too much, but because they're such betrayers. | ||
| But anyway, in the Republican Party, it's like, you a socialist? | ||
| Are you from Mondani? | ||
| No, not really a socialist. | ||
| Just I don't want any more dollar stores. | ||
| I don't want high density housing in my neighborhood. | ||
| I don't want any more strip malls that nobody goes to. | ||
| No more karate studios and vape shops. | ||
| Like, how about no? | ||
| First off, karate studios? | ||
| Why don't you want karate studios? | ||
| And by the way, strip malls. | ||
| I mean, I'm here in Florida. | ||
| We have an awful lot of strip malls. | ||
| You can go around my neighborhood. | ||
| These strip malls are packed. | ||
| And, you know, these strip malls actually are packed with small businesses. | ||
| You'll have like a little Italian restaurant, and then you'll have a little barber shop. | ||
| And then you might have a little pet food store. | ||
| And like, that's what any town USA kind of is. | ||
| So they're not beautiful enough for you, I guess, aesthetically, but like that's where actual people are owning mom and pop things as opposed to giant big stores. | ||
| But let's put that aside for a second. | ||
| What I thought was interesting about that clip is if I was Donald Trump and I was JD Vance or the people that are close to them right now, I'd really be worried about what it is Tucker is doing. | ||
| Look, it's very easy for me, as I always say on the show, to tell you all of the good things that Trump is doing. | ||
| It's super easy. | ||
| And it doesn't all get fixed overnight. | ||
| And we do have an affordability problem, particularly as it relates to young people getting into the housing market. | ||
| And they're trying to address that. | ||
| But what Trump has done, I'm not even going to read you to 10 things because you know him already, right? | ||
| He has done so many incredible things. | ||
| And again, we're 10 months in. | ||
| So Tucker abandoning him, basically saying the Republican Party is useless and I hate them. | ||
| So you hate Trump? | ||
| You hate JD? | ||
| These people are useless. | ||
| These people are the last bulwark against those socialists coming to power. | ||
| But I think the truth is with Tucker that he actually kind of likes those socialists. | ||
| So let me just put that there. | ||
| And again, it came up yesterday on Twitter. | ||
| A lot of people ask me this because somebody said to me, you know, Dave, it's nice that. | ||
| You know, you're able to separate friendship when you have to be critical of someone. | ||
| And the truth is, it kind of sucks. | ||
| I'm not even talking about Tucker specifically, but when I, you know, part of doing this is you become friendly with a lot of these people, right? | ||
| And I know for you guys that you don't know any of these people. | ||
| Everyone seems like Muppets. | ||
| I'm like a Muppet in the Muppet show. | ||
| We're all kind of Muppets. | ||
| But then you become friends with other Muppets and then you watch a Muppet go completely insane. | ||
| And then do you want to criticize them publicly? | ||
| Like some people just want the fights. | ||
| They want the clicks, all those things. | ||
| I'm not that interested in it. | ||
| So I think you understand my position on that. | ||
| But what has also been interesting is the major story that we covered yesterday, that now that X is showing you where accounts were created and where they're downloading the apps or where they're active from, we are finding out that we have been so, and we all knew it to some extent, but now we have actual proof of it. | ||
| We have been so deeply manipulated by foreign countries, foreign actors, bad actors. | ||
| And we're just really at the beginning of finding out what we're ultimately going to find out. | ||
| Can you play this little video that this is one of my friend Chad Prather put up? | ||
| And these are accounts that all pretend to be a big American counts and they have thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands, Native American soul, new Christian press, truth teller, American voice, often hundreds, right, scope, suppressed news, all of these things have huge, huge amounts of influence. | ||
| And it turns out that they're not even American. | ||
| Now, of course, they can be on X. You know, we like to think that X is kind of the American town square, but it is the worldwide town square. | ||
| But maybe what we're realizing, and Elon, if you're watching, maybe I'll give you a little business idea right now, is we need like an internal American version of all of this and then an external version. | ||
| Like there has to be a town square for America and then a worldwide town square because we are being manipulated in absolutely crazy ways. | ||
| And by the way, all of those accounts that are manipulating us, they're all interestingly trying to divide MAGA. | ||
| They're all interestingly always going after Israel and the Jews. | ||
| Like there's a fundamental thing that is happening here and we're just playing in that game. | ||
| And to show you how disconnected what happens online from what happens in the real world is, this is wild. | ||
| I saw this yesterday. | ||
| And in some sense, I couldn't believe it because I do exist online too. | ||
| This is Harry Enton, the numbers guy over at CNN, talking about how Trump has lost zero support in the GOP. | ||
| However, if you look online, it looks like these frogs are taking over and everything else and everyone hates Trump. | ||
| Well, I guess Tucker hates Trump. | ||
| But look at the actual numbers here. | ||
| So is the president losing Republicans? | ||
| No. | ||
| Look, this is still Donald Trump's Republican Party. | ||
| And we can see it here. | ||
| It's like a rock, to quote Bob Seeger. | ||
| I mean, take a look here. | ||
| Republicans who approve of Trump. | ||
| Six months ago, it was 87%. | ||
| Now, well, hello, it's the same number. | ||
| It's 87%. | ||
| He has not lost any support among Republicans compared to six months ago. | ||
| As I said at the beginning, he's like a rock. | ||
| He's like a rock. | ||
| The Republican base is sticking by Donald Trump at this point in time. | ||
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It really is interesting to watch his overall approval rating go down, down, down, down, but see this be completely constant here. | |
| It is among independents. | ||
| It's not among Republicans. | ||
| Okay, so this is super interesting. | ||
| So this means that Republicans who voted for Trump are staying with him at crazily high numbers. | ||
| Now, is it possible he's lost some of the independence that maybe begrudgingly came around? | ||
| You know, someone that had Trump derangement syndrome a year ago, they voted for him because they thought Kamala was an idiot, and now they're not thrilled. | ||
| Yeah, but it's sort of, and I'm completely open to this. | ||
| And please let us know in the comments. | ||
| I'm completely open to this. | ||
| And if it bears out that I'm wrong on this, fine. | ||
| And we'll see. | ||
| I guess ultimately we'll see in the midterms. | ||
| But do you know anyone in your life that voted for Trump that is now like, I'm voting for the Democrats? | ||
| It might be one thing to be like, I'm not that thrilled with him or I don't like this thing that he did or that thing. | ||
| But do you know anyone that came around on Trump that suddenly is abandoning him? | ||
| I don't know anyone. | ||
| Do you guys know anybody? | ||
| Like anybody. | ||
| And again, you don't have to be thrilled with the guy. | ||
| You don't have to be as supportive of him as I am or anything else. | ||
| But I just don't know anybody. | ||
| And actually, I do know some people that didn't vote for him that are happy with some of the things that happened over the last 10 months. | ||
| So here's Victor Davis Hansen, who's an absolute master. | ||
| I think in many ways, sometimes explaining Trumpism better than Trump. | ||
| Here he is completely shattering the narrative that Trump is losing influence amongst people on the right. | ||
| This idea that Trump is, quote, losing his influence in the Republican Party. | ||
| That's kind of the wish casting going into the midterms. | ||
| And you see this time and again in the press, your reaction to that new line they're peddling. | ||
| You know, they said that for three months, four months, five months after January 6th, he was all through. | ||
| He was all washed up. | ||
| And then they didn't even have a serious primary. | ||
| It didn't even, no one even got near him. | ||
| And the main candidates withdrew very quickly. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| And they can't decide whether they want to run against Trump or that he's not going to be there. | ||
| But whatever it is, he dominates the party. | ||
| He's like a colossus that just strides over the party and the country. | ||
| And they know that. | ||
| And they've tried everything, Laura. | ||
| They've tried to raid his house. | ||
| They've de-balloted him. | ||
| They had five lawfare cases, 91 charges, indictments. | ||
| And he's kind of anything that doesn't destroy him makes him stronger. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this is where I always talk about Kayfabe and it's a script. | ||
| And we've been through all of this before. | ||
| They've told you this is what's happening to Trump and MAGA before. | ||
| We've just done it over and over again. | ||
| And what I've struggled to understand with this, if you're someone on the right right now, like when I see the Tucker crew that's so pissed at him, it's like Trump is not starting new wars. | ||
| He's ending wars. | ||
| If you guys are coming from the America exclusively alone, we shouldn't have anything to do with anything. | ||
| He's wrapping things up. | ||
| It all doesn't happen overnight, right? | ||
| He's even working on Russia-Ukraine right now. | ||
| He's wrapping it up. | ||
| The hostages are out of Gaza. | ||
| That war has largely wrapped up. | ||
| It doesn't mean that there's kumbaya peace, as I said the day that it happened, but it's largely wrapped up. | ||
| Like, do you want us to have no influence in the world? | ||
| But even if that's like the thing that's like stuck, the bee in your bonnet, that's the thing that you're really pissed about. | ||
| Aren't you thrilled that we closed the border? | ||
| Aren't you thrilled that we're doing deportations? | ||
| Aren't you thrilled that we're sending ICE into the cities? | ||
| Aren't you thrilled that we're not printing money relentlessly like crazy people? | ||
| Aren't you thrilled that we got out of these international agreements? | ||
| Like on and on and on, the trade deals, da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| So in some sense, it's just like there's a bunch of like petulant children who just want everything they want when they want it, which sounds very much like the left. | ||
| And they're being led around by a bunch of bots and foreign actors on Twitter. | ||
| So with that in mind, this is coming right out of the mind of my associate producer, Joseph. | ||
| He said this is a perfect representation of how people are being led around by foreign influence online. | ||
| This is the WWE's Santino, who's wearing a Cobra sock on his hand. | ||
| And just about 20 seconds and just see if this makes sense to you. | ||
| we can discuss after. | ||
| So how's that for political analysis? | ||
| I actually, first off, you know, Jake the Snake Roberts is watching that going, oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, what happened? | ||
| I used to bring a big ass python out there, and this guy's putting a sock on his hand. | ||
| But the larger, like, everything gets shittier over time. | ||
| It's just how it works. | ||
| But the broader point there, I actually think, is right, that we're basically all the guy with the snake on his hand, right? | ||
| And there's these musical sounds being played, and it's foreign influence pulling us crazy to the left, and then foreign influence pulling us crazy to the right. | ||
| And we're all just bouncing back and forth between that poor Santino guy. | ||
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| You can see as I was reading that, I was just replaying that thing. | ||
| I mean, what is going on? | ||
| Anyway, the other interesting story of the week is that a bunch of crazy Democrats, I don't know what to call them beyond that, a bunch of crazy Dems did a video encouraging currently serving members of our military to defy Trump's illegal orders. | ||
| However, as I said the day it came out, they never said what any of the illegal orders are. | ||
| So here is current Arizona senator, Democrat Mark Kelly. | ||
| He was one of the guys in it, former Navy captain. | ||
| Let's just show you a quick moment of him encouraging current serving members of the military to defy Trump. | ||
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Senator Mark Kelly, that was a captain in the United States Navy. | |
| Our laws are clear. | ||
| You can refuse illegal orders. | ||
| Let's jump ahead on the next clip and let's go right to here is Mark Kelly now admitting that there were no specific illegal orders from Trump behind and the stunt was just bad. | ||
| It was just a stunt. | ||
| When you and your colleagues made that video, were there specific potentially illegal orders that you were thinking about that were the sort of precipitating cause for you guys to get together and do that? | ||
| Here's the thing, Rachel. | ||
| You don't want to wait for your kid to get hit by a car before you tell them to look both ways. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| These guys are into pre-crime. | ||
| If you haven't seen my minority report, like it explains it right there. | ||
| There were no illegal orders. | ||
| There were no illegal orders that Donald Trump has put out. | ||
| They put out a video implying there were. | ||
| And then this is the exact same thing. | ||
| We showed you the video of Elise Slotnick yesterday on CNN being asked, you were in that video, and you said that they should not listen to illegal orders. | ||
| And then, and, well, what were the illegal orders? | ||
| Well, I don't know what they were. | ||
| I mean, it's the exact same. | ||
| How did you idiots not know you were going to walk into this? | ||
| But of course, Trump has said that there will be some retaliation against these people. | ||
| And here is the other Arizona senator, Ruben Gallego, promising legal retaliation over military, the military investigation into Mark Kelly. | ||
| Donald Trump's going to be gone a couple years. | ||
| And if you're part of the military that is going after sitting senators, sitting members of Congress, and part of the weaponization of government, there will be consequences, without a doubt. | ||
| So I think there's going to be a lot of officers that are going to be part of this potential tribunal they want to call that. | ||
| They're going to be looking over their shoulders because they know that Donald Trump will be gone and they will not have the protection. | ||
| They're going to have to do the safest thing possible, which is follow the Constitution of the United States and you'll be fine. | ||
| Again, Donald Trump did not tell anyone to not follow the Constitution of the United States. | ||
| But now I want to show you why people get so confused over these things. | ||
| So a bunch of Democrats put out a video that's totally fraudulent, right? | ||
| Because if it wasn't fraudulent, it was obvious what they would have done, which is why I got this story right the second it came out. | ||
| If he had done something illegal, Donald Trump signed into law this thing that forces you to do this illegal thing. | ||
| They would have said it, but instead they gave these vague platitudes. | ||
| Now, how did those lies then get laundered through the system? | ||
| Well, then we'll jump over to what is now known as MSN Now. | ||
| It's not the televisional institution known as MSNBC anymore. | ||
| Am I correct? | ||
| Yes, I'm correct. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Joe Scarborough over there. | ||
| And listen to Scarborough, who is now mad at Slotkin because she didn't know what to say when CNN asked her about the illegal orders. | ||
| And watch the way he launders the lies here. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| Okay, wrong answer. | ||
| Well, I'm sorry, with all due respect, wrong answer. | ||
| President of the United States, the commander-in-chief, does have Jonathan O'Mear, wide latitude. | ||
| Just does. | ||
| But he said, I can send the Marines, I can send the Army, I can send the Air Force, I can send the Coast Guard into any city I want to control crime. | ||
| And the courts can't do anything about it. | ||
| That's illegal. | ||
| It's just illegal. | ||
| And so Democrats kind of need to. | ||
| If the president has already said, I'm going to commit this illegal act, then I'm kind of surprised they don't have the answer when they go on a Sunday show for that. | ||
| Buddy, you also are into pre-crime, okay? | ||
| First off, you admit that the president does have wide latitude. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| Him saying I can send the troops in and blah, blah, blah, is not the same thing as him signing an order to do it. | ||
| So if there's a legal issue around him signing something that says, I'm going to send the Air Force into Chicago, which they could probably use it over there. | ||
| We'll have more on that in just a second. | ||
| If that is illegal without him, you know, instituting the Insurrection Act or something, then you go after him for that. | ||
| But the President of the United States has free speech too, right? | ||
| He has the First Amendment. | ||
| So he can say things, and that's just fine. | ||
| If he then pushes through a law, an order that is illegal, then the courts will deal with it. | ||
| So that's how the lies get laundered. | ||
| They make up a story with no evidence of anything illegal. | ||
| And then there he is basically saying, no, you guys should have kept going with this because he said something, not something, not that he actually did something. | ||
| On the other hand, here's Caroline Levitt with receipts showing that service members actually do have to follow the orders, the lawful orders of the president of the United States. | ||
| Hoping to sort of sow this distrust. | ||
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| They can't answer the question, Martha, because there is no answer. | ||
| They can't identify illegal orders because there are no illegal orders. | ||
| But they were suggesting, again, to the 1.3 million active duty service members in the military today that if you think an order is illegal, you don't have to follow it. | ||
| Actually, that's against the Uniform Code of Military Justice. | ||
| It explicitly states, and I want to read this language precisely, that service members have a legal obligation under the U.S., use the MJ to obey lawful orders and that orders are presumed to be lawful. | ||
| You can't have a soldier out on the battlefield or conducting a classified order questioning whether that order is lawful or whether they should follow through. | ||
| There must be a chain of command in our military. | ||
| Yeah, that is 100% right. | ||
| And she's really, really good at that job, right? | ||
| So they have to follow the orders, right? | ||
| And then it can be dealt with after. | ||
| But if literally, imagine you're on the battlefield wherever it is. | ||
| Or you're at home and they're sending you to a city or you're somewhere across the world or whatever. | ||
| You think every soldier has a lawyer with them going, can you check into this law and make sure this is legal and everything else? | ||
| No, so you have to have a chain of command that makes sense. | ||
| You have to have people abide by the system, how it works. | ||
| And then the courts can deal with what is legal or illegal. | ||
| But again, Donald Trump not only did not do anything illegal, he's allowed to express his kind of over-the-top crazy feelings about sending the Air Force into Chicago or Minnesota. | ||
| And that's different than signing an order that says, now I'm going to start randomly shooting people, which would be a problem. | ||
| But we've seen all of this before from the Democrats. | ||
| Let's go all the way back to 2018. | ||
| Do you remember John Kerry, a man who looks like a tree? | ||
| He went on the late show with Stephen Colbert and explained that Trump gives the orders to generals, but generals ignore him. | ||
| We have a president who's there, but he is not capable of doing the job or living up to the responsibilities. | ||
| You have him ordering generals to do something, and within a moment of them being ordered, they turn to their fellow generals and say, we're not doing that. | ||
| You're not supposed to have to have a resistance within the White House to prevent your president from breaking the law or doing something that's irrational and dangerous. | ||
| You're not supposed to do that. | ||
| That doesn't sound like reference. | ||
| Notice he didn't ever say what the president was doing that was illegal. | ||
| But again, if you want to break down the entire chain of command, if you want rank and file officers or you want generals or lieutenants to all be sitting there analyzing the law themselves to decide whether we're going to go ahead and do this, you will destroy the military overnight. | ||
| Again, it's not to say the president can't do anything bad. | ||
| It's not to say every military adventure is correct or anything else. | ||
| But once you, and this is what the Dems are really good at. | ||
| I mean, this is progressivism 101. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| We get into a system and we use the system against itself so it will be destroyed. | ||
| So there would be nothing happier. | ||
| There would be nothing that would make the Democrats happier than to have a whole bunch of soldiers, if thousands of soldiers suddenly were just analyzing the law themselves, or if they were just getting orders most likely from Democrat NGOs, right, left-leaning NGOs, and they were just like, well, I'm going to refuse this order. | ||
| I'm going to refuse that order and everything. | ||
| That's like the system would break down overnight and that would not be good. | ||
| After the break, we will talk about very New York accent. | ||
| We will talk about Chicago. | ||
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| All right, so as I just said, the Democrats are really good at breaking things. | ||
| And it doesn't mean that all of our systems are perfect. | ||
| I think if we've learned anything over the last couple of years, particularly post-COVID, it's that many of our systems are not great. | ||
| Many of our institutions do fail us and everything else. | ||
| But that doesn't mean you tear everything down because what might come out on the other side could be far worse. | ||
| So now let's jump over to Chicago. | ||
| You know, racist mayor Brandon Johnson, who everything is about race with him, and yet he never cares how many people were killed in Chicago over the weekend. | ||
| Can we get the numbers this past weekend, please? | ||
| Here he is explaining that you can't jail your way out of violence because that would be racist, which somehow implies that it's only black people that commit violence, but okay, go. | ||
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We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. | |
| We've already tried that, and we've ended up with the largest prison population in the world without solving the problems of crime and violence. | ||
| The addiction on jails and incarceration in this country, we have moved past that. | ||
| It is racist. | ||
| It is immoral. | ||
| It is unholy. | ||
| And it is not the way to drive violence down. | ||
| It is racist, immoral, unholy. | ||
| Well, you know, if somebody shoots somebody who's just going out to get a nice chicken tender dinner, I'm in the mood for chicken fingers right now. | ||
| You know, you should probably go to jail. | ||
| And that's not unholy or unjust or anything else. | ||
| 30 people were shot in Chicago this weekend. | ||
| Three were killed. | ||
| What would you like to do with those people who committed the violence, Brandon Johnson? | ||
| You want to give them a massage and a happy ending, but that will not, like everyone wants an happy ending, but that's not going to solve anything, okay? | ||
| Like that's just not going to work. | ||
| But this is what they relentlessly do. | ||
| It doesn't mean that jailing people is perfect, right? | ||
| And should, you know what? | ||
| You want to get people, less people to be committing crimes. | ||
| How about you create the economic conditions so that they're not desperate? | ||
| But you guys don't do that, actually. | ||
| You guys create economic conditions that people get stuck on the government dole. | ||
| They get stuck in this type of housing. | ||
| They become resentful. | ||
| You tell them that they're living in a systemically racist country. | ||
| You guys create all the conditions that causes them to become criminals. | ||
| Then the best thing the system can do, or the last thing the system can do, is throw them in jail, and then you're pissed about that. | ||
| But what is going on in Chicago? | ||
| Well, here's a reporter covering a shooting that happened during Chicago's Christmas tree lighting ceremony. | ||
| What was Macaulay Culkin's name in Home Alone? | ||
| I hope he wasn't there. | ||
| Kevin McAllister. | ||
| Hopefully Kevin McAllister wasn't killed. | ||
| Hey, John, it was a big weekend to kick off the holidays here in Chicago and they couldn't get through it without more shocking violence. | ||
| Bloodshed at the tree lighting ceremony. | ||
| That 14-year-old you mentioned, his name was Armani Floyd. | ||
| He was killed. | ||
| The coroner ruled his death was caused by multiple gunshot wounds. | ||
| He was shot near the Dirksen Federal Building where we cover so many of those trials. | ||
| And that shooting was the second of two shootings that evening about an hour earlier right on State Street. | ||
| About 10 p.m. in front of the historic Chicago theater. | ||
| Gunfire broke out. | ||
| Seven people were shot. | ||
| Their ages range from 13 to 17. | ||
| Now, the shootings followed a trend called a teen takeover, where young people post something on social media, then they swarm an area. | ||
| Our young people have to understand that they should not attend these unauthorized events that have been advertised on social media. | ||
| No suspects are in custody. | ||
| A Chicago police officer was injured. | ||
| We're waiting on an update of his condition. | ||
| And CPD official numbers for the weekend are out. | ||
| 28 people were shot. | ||
| Four people were killed by gunfire. | ||
| One person died from a stabbing. | ||
| One person. | ||
| And like, one person died from a stabbing, but you know, what are you going to do? | ||
| So, again, you guys get it. | ||
| Chicago, which has the strongest gun laws in the city in the entire country right now. | ||
| And here's some Chicago violent crime stats this year to date. | ||
| There's been 378 murders, and I'm going to guess that 95% of them were black people. | ||
| 1,339 shootings, 5,267 robberies, 16,400 felony thefts. | ||
| But what's Brandon Johnson's answer? | ||
| Stop jailing people and tell young people not to do things on social media. | ||
| But if you think Chicago is bad, wait till the communist takes over New York City because all hell is about to break loose. | ||
| Listen to this from Greg Price on X. | ||
| The guy that Mom Dami has put in charge of community safety is the author of a book that goes by the title, End of Policing. | ||
| So, you know, they're going to do community safety now. | ||
| And you're not always going to call the police, you know, when your husband's beating the crap out of you with a belt. | ||
| It's like, oh, do I call the police or the community safety people? | ||
| I'll have to figure it out. | ||
| We know this is going to be an utter disaster. | ||
| And here's a little bit more about this guy who wants to defund the police. | ||
| Alex Vitale led efforts against the police to protect homeless individuals in San Francisco in the 90s. | ||
| His op-eds in the New York Times say police funding is a colossal waste and says the gang databases are unnecessary. | ||
| If you watch my interview from about three weeks ago, it was the day that Mom Dami got elected with Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| He talks about how important those gang databases are to figure out who's doing the crime and where it's coming from. | ||
| But of course, that's what's happening in New York City. | ||
| Oh, and this is a good one. | ||
| Here is Mom Damii's criminal legal committee pick, Jonos Martin, and he wants to let 80% of people out of jail. | ||
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Which had a goal of 50%. | |
| How do we get this country to a place where we have 1 million fewer people in jail and prison? | ||
| Now, as it relates to Manhattan, I think we can be a little bit bolder than that. | ||
| We are a supposedly liberal city with a ton of resources and a ton of ways to support people outside of jail and prison. | ||
| And so I've called for cutting the Manhattan jail population by 80%. | ||
| I'm the only candidate in our race who's made a pledge like that. | ||
| And to me, if you're not making a numbers-based pledge, how are we supposed to hold you accountable once you win? | ||
| We're a liberal city, which really just means we're retards. | ||
| We are actual retards. | ||
| We are retarded in our brains and we like to do retarded things. | ||
| Something that would be retarded would be like saying, I don't know, let's just pick a number, right? | ||
| He just literally picked a number out of thin air. | ||
| We'd like to let 80% of the people out of jail. | ||
| Well, where the hell did you come up with that? | ||
| How about 85%? | ||
| 90%? | ||
| How about 97%? | ||
| Let's just leave Hannibal Elector in there. | ||
| Everybody else get going. | ||
| Do you see how insane this is? | ||
| They just pick numbers and they think that makes them the good guys. | ||
| And what do you say? | ||
| We're a liberal city, so we have the resources. | ||
| Okay, so empty the prisons. | ||
| Let's get the rapists and the murderers and the give me one. | ||
| Give me one. | ||
| Well, rapists and murderers. | ||
| Those are the big two. | ||
| And just the petty theft, petty lawyer, like just give me all of them, throw them out there. | ||
| And we're liberals. | ||
| We're liberals. | ||
| We'll deal with it because we're retards. | ||
| This guy, Janos, well, he's known for launching the hashtag CloseRikers campaign to phase out Rikers Island by 2027. | ||
| I mean, Escape from New York. | ||
| It was a sci-fi movie with, what's his name? | ||
| Who's in that? | ||
| He used to bang Goldie Hahn, I think. | ||
| Great actor. | ||
| Kevin. | ||
| Kerr Russell. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I thought this was interesting from Anne Wokeness on Twitter. | ||
| Just when you see that a meme is worth a thousand words. | ||
| Three suspects, 125 combined arrests. | ||
| So there you have three beautiful young women who were killed within the last year. | ||
| And then you have the three suspects beneath them. | ||
| Now, putting aside the racial component of this, these happen to be all three white women and all three black men. | ||
| 125 combined arrests for those guys. | ||
| Decline is a choice, guys. | ||
| And blue cities and blue states are choosing it. | ||
| And it is an absolute disaster. | ||
| But speaking of disasters, let's talk about Hamas caucus member and Somali supremacist Ilhan Omar. | ||
| Here she is. | ||
| There's been a lot of problems with the local Somali neighborhood in Minnesota. | ||
| We'll get to that in just a second. | ||
| But here she is talking about the importance of Somalis as it pertains to the fabric of America. | ||
| Somalis are not terrorizing this nation. | ||
| We are helping it thrive. | ||
| Somalis have always seen as a fabric, has seen themselves as a fabric of this nation. | ||
| So not only are we not going anywhere. | ||
| Not only are we not going anywhere. | ||
| We are not going to allow anybody to make us feel less Minnesotan or less American. | ||
| Okay, first off, look, obviously, the truth is that are there individual Somalis who are perfectly great people who love America and everything else? | ||
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| Is she one of them? | ||
| And are the people that love her those types of people? | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| And by the way, what's been going on with the Somali community in Minnesota right now? | ||
| Listen to this from the New York Post. | ||
| We should have covered the story in a bigger way. | ||
| I mean, it's a crazy scandal that's coming out of Minnesota right now. | ||
| Somali terror group Al-Shabaab taking a cut of millions in stolen Minnesota taxpayer money from welfare fraud scheme. | ||
| This is a huge, huge problem that is now coming out of Minnesota. | ||
| And we know that they are campaigning in Somali. | ||
| Ilhan Omer is talking about how the real country she loves is Somalia and she'd be happy to be kicked out of America and everything else. | ||
| And of course, what does she say about those of us who vote a different way? | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| So we are sick and tired of the president waking up one day and deciding to put forth falsehoods and demonize whole communities while the ignorant people that support him then take the lies that he's spreading and use it as a fact. | ||
| The ignorant people that support him. | ||
| You know, lady, I don't like you very much. | ||
| And I get it that you somehow became an American. | ||
| It had something to do with immigration fraud, or at least for your brother when you married him. | ||
| Somebody should look into that. | ||
| I keep asking, could somebody, the woman married her brother. | ||
| But you don't seem to care about this country very much. | ||
| And the problem is we now know that throughout different cities in America, we have groups of people who are deciding not to fold into the melting pot that is America, but to stay in sort of a much more European version of this, which is nothing close to the melting pot. | ||
| As a matter of fact, the mayor of Dearborn, Michigan, we played a video of him a couple of days ago talking about the fact that he doesn't like the term melting pot. | ||
| The very thing that really America, that's really the idea beyond individual rights, beyond like the constitutional promise of America, the sort of personal promise of America was that you would have some stuff deep within you in your heritage and history, and it would become part of the melting pot. | ||
| Well, he's not into that. | ||
| And we've shown you this a couple of times, but it's worth noting again just to see how out of control things are in Dearborn, Michigan, because this is a Christian pastor who went to a community hearing to say that he wasn't thrilled that they were going to name a street after a Hezbollah leader, Hezbollah, which has killed many Americans. | ||
| And Abdullah Hamoud, the mayor of Dearborn, basically said, F you. | ||
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I mean, Hezbollah, you know, bombed the embassy in Beirut and including many Americans. | |
| So I just feel it's quite inappropriate. | ||
| You're an Islamophobe. | ||
| And although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you're not welcome here. | ||
| And the day you move out of the city will be the day that I launch a parade celebrating the fact that you moved out of the city because you are not somebody who believes in coexistence. | ||
| Wait till someone like that gets more power. | ||
| And now those people have taken over the Democrat Party. | ||
| He's telling a pastor, a Christian pastor, who's talking about how Hezbollah killed 200 plus American service people, which everyone knows that's not debatable, that that's not good. | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't honor the guy. | ||
| And his answer to that is you're an Islamophobe and leave the city. | ||
| This is a problem. | ||
| This is a problem. | ||
| Show me the next numbers here. | ||
| So I thought this was interesting as it pertains to where people come from and their contribution to America. | ||
| And I'll give you a little context for this in just a second. | ||
| But this is lifetime contribution per immigrant. | ||
| So meaning immigrants that come from North America, they contribute about over $500,000, over $570,000 in their lifetime from Scandinavia, over $550,000. | ||
| We can jump around. | ||
| Japan, over $500,000. | ||
| Somalia, net negative $1.1 million, meaning that that's the drain in society that they are on. | ||
| Middle East, negative $624,000. | ||
| Latin America, negative $271,000. | ||
| Let me give you a little context for what this is. | ||
| So the lifetime contribution means net fiscal impact that an average immigrant has on the country over an entire lifetime, including all taxes they pay minus all government benefits and public services they receive. | ||
| So meaning if an immigrant comes here who's already from North America, because they're not taking a lot and they are contributing a lot, the country generates revenue on them. | ||
| And then there's other people, and the Somali one was the glaring one there. | ||
| It's a negative $1.1 million per person. | ||
| Does this really make sense? | ||
| And by the way, guys, we know this is happening all over the world. | ||
| So I thought this was interesting. | ||
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This is King Charles across the pond. | |
| And as he is losing his country, and everyone knows it is being Islamized right in front of our eyes. | ||
| They are handing it away and they don't know what to do with it. | ||
| It's probably too late. | ||
| Here he is quoting the Quran and thanking Muslims for their enormous contributions to British society. | ||
| As the Quran says, God does not burden any soul with more than it can bear. | ||
| We hope that you have a blessed and fulfilling Ramadan. | ||
| Peace be upon you all. | ||
| Ramadan Bubara. | ||
| My wife and I can only offer you all our kindest and most special wishes and stress just how greatly the contribution of Muslims to the life of the United Kingdom is appreciated and valued, embodying the Ramadan spirit of charity and selflessness. | ||
| Dude, they're still going to behead you. | ||
| But, you know, to be fair, to be fair, I thought, all right, why don't we play a couple videos of Muslim leaders of various Muslim and Arab countries playing their holiday greetings for Christians and Jews? | ||
| Connor, roll it. | ||
| None? | ||
| We don't have any. | ||
| You can't find one of a Muslim leader or an Arab leader wish. | ||
| Oh, wait. | ||
| Can you play something? | ||
| Can you get me? | ||
| Oh, there's no Jews left in any of those Christians. | ||
| What about a guy in a thing saying something nice about the gate? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| This was something from the UK Parliament. | ||
| Are you ready to take part in our UK Parliament Week 2025 quiz next week? | ||
| And of course, again, like in and of itself, is that girl probably perfectly lovely and we should judge people individually and everything else. | ||
| But yes, the answer to that is yes. | ||
| But what is really going on in these countries? | ||
| We all know something is rotten and it keeps being pushed in front of us and it feels very artificial. | ||
| And it has something to do with the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| So we did get a little good news right here in the USA yesterday. | ||
| This is from Nick Sorter on X, breaking its official. | ||
| President Trump has signed an executive order directing Secretary Rubio to classify the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization. | ||
| Finally, Trump's order also prohibits financial transactions with them. | ||
| So much of their funding will likely dry up. | ||
| Now, there is a little caveat to all of this because it does turn out that it does not include Muslim Brotherhood branches in Qatar, that makes you wonder, and I believe Turkey, but it does include some of the others. | ||
| So at least it's some movement on this. | ||
| But the broader issue here right now is that the Islam, it's the Red-Green Alliance. | ||
| Islam thing is joining up with the Marxist thing, which is about class, but they are doing it because they are both interested in toppling capitalism. | ||
| They are both interested in toppling America. | ||
| They are both interested in a revolution. | ||
| So they're using each other, although it's mostly the Islamists using the queers for Palestine, right? | ||
| Like that's how it's really going. | ||
| And I thought this was quite good. | ||
| Mohamed Tawidi, who's known as the Imam of Peace, I had him on the show many, many years ago. | ||
| It's gone very viral over the years. | ||
| He sat down with Dinesh D'Souza talking about that jihadists actually fear conservatives, not liberals, because liberals are just useless idiots. | ||
| When I was an extremist, Islamist, fundamentalist, I would only vote left. | ||
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| I saw them as very stupid. | ||
| I would fear the conservatives because they come with principles. | ||
| That's not someone they can brainwash. | ||
| But the left, I know they have no values and no principles to begin with. | ||
| I dare you to find one Islamic extremist that votes for Donald Trump. | ||
| Never do it. | ||
| They'd give their vote to the leftist who wants to run around in pride parades. | ||
| And Islamic extremists are against gays and homosexuals and transgenders, but they want the left to go and get busy with that. | ||
| They want them, go, go, go speak about the climate. | ||
| Go, go, go, speak about abortion. | ||
| Go, go, kill yourselves. | ||
| Go, go, do that. | ||
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| The future of America has to be Muslim. | ||
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Well, happy Thanksgiving, everybody. | |
| Should end the show right there. | ||
| You get it. | ||
| You get it, right? | ||
| Like, you would want your people. | ||
| Why do they love the leftists? | ||
| Because they want these people weak. | ||
| They want them to love abortion so they don't multiply. | ||
| You want them to chop off their kids' genitals. | ||
| You want them to try to cat topple capitalism. | ||
| And it's interesting what he says at the point. | ||
| What conservatives? | ||
| Well, conservatives, I fear them. | ||
| They have beliefs. | ||
| They have principles. | ||
| Now, it doesn't mean conservatives work on it all the time, but that also, I mean, to go back to an earlier clip. | ||
| So when you hear Tucker Carlson railing against conservatives and he barely ever says anything about Mom Dhammi, that's what the horseshoe theory of politics is. | ||
| You go far enough one way and you actually end up on the other side. | ||
| Ding. | ||
| And usually what this ding thing is, is rotten. | ||
| It is not good. | ||
| But let's end with this because the point is that, well, to bring it full circle, actually, the point is that we can keep talking to each other. | ||
| We can keep finding people that disagree. | ||
| And that we need a little civility in all of this. | ||
| And what I've largely seen, I think my personal experience, but also building the show and seeing how you guys respond to it, is that if you look for civility, if we try to be a little bit better, if we don't get obsessed with everything that's going on online, and we look to build things, like find other people to build things, then you're going to have a bunch of happy warriors. | ||
| And that might be how we save the countries. | ||
| Let's go back to Bill and Lara. | ||
| One of the things we have to correct in America is people should not have to feel bad about living in any part of the country where their politics isn't the majority. | ||
| And that works both ways. | ||
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| I'm a liberal. | ||
| These people are different. | ||
| For just being fucking snobs. | ||
| This is the I won't eat with you at Thanksgiving people. | ||
| This is the no contact thing. | ||
| But I will say, and this is something I'm going to say Friday night, the liberals are worse about this. | ||
| I will admit it. | ||
| And we have to look in the mirror on that one. | ||
| We are just worse at the snobby thing. | ||
| Acti, I don't know any conservatives who don't at least talk. | ||
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| You know, now, maybe that's because you won. | ||
| Maybe that's because it's easy. | ||
| There was a time where we didn't. | ||
| And you still came. | ||
| It's just a time where they're happy warriors. | ||
| I remember that term when I was a kid. | ||
| Like that was somebody who was like, and that's what Republicans usually are. | ||
| They're happy warriors. | ||
| They come there. | ||
| You can see I don't pull my punches. | ||
| They take their shots like a man. | ||
| Isn't that something that Bill, who still is not on this side of the aisle, that he's fully acknowledging that right now? | ||
| And dare I pat myself for just a second. | ||
| I'll glaze myself, as the kids say. | ||
| But that what he's talking about there is exactly what I told him about what would happen to him years ago if he went to a Trump rally where he would be largely loved, even though he wasn't a Trump supporter, versus what would happen to him as a Democrat at an AOC rally where he would be hated because he doesn't fall in line with all of their beliefs. | ||
| So it's kind of funny. | ||
| You know, if you listen to the mainstream media, what conservatives are mean and they don't like anybody and they just care about money and they're for war. | ||
| And there you have a liberal saying, you know, they're the happy warriors. | ||
| And Laura, I enjoy sitting down here with you and having a drink and trying to hash this stuff out. | ||
| And I'll have dinner with your father-in-law and I'll keep trying to, you know, save the liberalism from itself, which is in essence what he's doing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I feel good about today's show. | ||
| I'm a little confused about the wrestling thing, but I feel like it might have worked. | ||
| Thank you for watching. | ||
| We are pre-taping tomorrow's show. | ||
| And then Thursday for Thanksgiving, don't worry. | ||
| We're not drubbing you with politics. | ||
| I shot like a one-minute little Thanksgiving message that I think you really enjoy. | ||
| And just spend some time with your families this week, eat some food, have a couple of drinks and just be with some good people, friends, family, and all that good stuff. | ||
| Thanks for watching. |
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