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Nov. 24, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin

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Tense Moment at Trump-Mamdani Meeting That No One Predicted

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	Previously, on the Rubin, the grifters, that's what they call themselves.
	That's the stupidest idea.
	They should be careful what they wish for.
	I thought Hillary Clinton was going to win.
	She's retiring.
	Not allowing gunboats to make it to the United States carrying drugs.
	me to give a little golf clap to Martha McCallum.
	I'm Dave Rubin.
	This is the Rubin Report.
	And it's very important that I tell you the date at the top of the show, according to the audience.
	Today is November 24th, 2025.
	That's right.
	We're just days away from Thanksgiving.
	So if your calendar is just completely missing right now without me, I've just warned you.
	There's a turkey coming.
	You're going to be spending time with some family.
	Probably got a crazy aunt who's going to say some loony shit.
	It's all going to happen this week.
	We are live today and tomorrow we'll be pre-taping our Wednesday show.
	Then I have a little, just like a two-minute message for you on Thanksgiving.
	We didn't want to drub you with politics and I hope, really, I hope everybody takes a little time this week to spend some time around family and friends and loved ones and enjoy themselves and truly to be thankful, right?
	Like how about we extend it all week?
	Let's just be thankful all week for this incredible country and all of the goodness and freedom that we still have that's constantly being hacked away at by bad people, many of whom we will talk about on the show today.
	And sort of, I said this a couple times last week, but right now something in the news is just kind of thick.
	There's just like a lot going on.
	So it's a little bit of everything today's show, sort of as we've been doing the last couple days, a little about it.
	Zorhan showing up to the White House, which happened on Friday.
	Marjorie Taylor Green is retiring, although sort of announced to come back in her retirement.
	Eric Swalmell, a man who once parted on MSNBC, will be running for governor of the communist country of California.
	And then we're going to end on what actually I think is the biggest story that broke over the weekend, which is that X, formerly Twitter, they have now publicly added where accounts were created and where they are tweeting from.
	And it turns out that there are literally thousands and thousands of major accounts with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of followers who are pretending to be American.
	And they are often operating in a ton of them in Pakistan, in Saudi Arabia, in Bangladesh, all of these crazy places.
	And we have been just so manipulated.
	It's what I'm always saying about social media.
	We thought it was a mirror and it turned out to be a funhouse mirror.
	So we'll get into all of that and more.
	But let's start with the communist visiting DC.
	That's right, Moron Zamboni showed up at the White House on Friday and he and Trump had a little chat.
	And then they had an extremely interesting press conference after everything about this, the optics of Trump sitting at the desk in the Oval Office with Mom Dami standing there, the overt smiles by Trump, the several times he touches him.
	There was just an awful lot of subtext to it.
	But here is Donald Trump saying that he's confident that Zorhan can do a good job and that may shock some people.
	But who knows?
	I mean, we're going to see what works.
	Or he's going to change also.
	We all change.
	I change a lot.
	Change a lot from when I first came to office.
	It's now quite a while ago.
	We had discussions on something.
	I'm not going to discuss what they were, but that I feel very confident that he can do a very good job.
	I think he is going to surprise some conservative people, actually, and some very liberal people.
	He won't surprise him because they already like him.
	Okay, so there's a whole bunch here because the base reaction to that, if you have not seen that video before, you probably just reacted like my initial reaction was, which was kind of like disgust, right?
	This guy is a communist.
	He has called Trump a fascist a million times.
	We know he is trying to import all of the bad ideas that all of our ancestors fled.
	And it's deeply sad that the once great home of capitalism in America, New York City, could be going in that direction.
	So that's sort of like what the immediate answer is.
	Why is Trump smiling?
	Why are they playing nice?
	All of that stuff.
	Now let's do the, I would say, slightly more thoughtful analysis, which first would be you keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
	I think that's the main thing that Trump is doing there.
	Okay, that's number one.
	Number two, he's just playing politics.
	Whether you like it or not, you are going to have to work with people who are pretty terrible.
	And Zorhan may think that Trump's terrible and Trump may think he's terrible.
	But at some point, you are going to have to work together, whether it's through funding issues or if there was a terror attack in New York, the financial system that still exists there, at least for now.
	There's a lot of reasons.
	So there's some of that.
	But I think Trump was actually doing a little bit something deeper than all of that there, beyond just playing politics and trying to bring the guy in and all that.
	I think what he was also trying to do was by being so friendly and smiling, we're going to show you a couple more videos.
	He wanted that to kind of stick with Moron Zamboni, right?
	All of Moron Zamboni's supporters think Trump is a fascist and is Nazi and is Hitler and all those things.
	And again, those are his own words, calling him a fascist and everything else.
	So by sitting there with Trump as Trump keeps touching him and smiling, and I think he's going to do a great job and I'm looking forward to working with him, it's actually putting a little stank on Zorhan with his own base.
	So I think what Trump did right there was quite effective.
	Then they did something even a little more effective, which is they had Jack Pasobic, they had the, you know, the press corps there, and they threw to Jack Pasobic, who's obviously a huge Trump supporter, big in MAGA world, to ask Zorhan over his stated plans to tax white neighborhoods more.
	I want to know one of the policies as well that Mayor Lekmandami talked a number of times about on the campaign was shifting the tax burden for property taxes from what he called minority communities to white-based communities and putting more taxes on white people.
	I also noticed that in your acceptance group, you didn't mention anything about America or Christians or white people in general.
	And so I didn't know if that was one of the policies that you guys had spoken about.
	We focused on affordability.
	We focused on the cost of living crisis.
	You're continuing this idea of race-based property taxes.
	No, to be very clear.
	That's what you said.
	No, the use of the term was a description of neighborhoods, not a description of intent.
	All right, so first off, let me give Pasobic credit there.
	It's good to ask a direct question and follow up.
	Zorhan, obviously, like if you can't see the obvious wolf in sheep's clothing thing with him, like I just don't know what to tell you.
	He said white neighborhoods, and that's what he meant.
	And now he was just a descriptor to mean rich.
	Okay.
	Well, if you want people to think that all white people are rich so that brown people can be angry at them, I suppose you can do that.
	But everything that this guy represents, yes, it is well packaged.
	We've been through this already.
	Like the suit fits, okay, fine.
	He's got the smile, whatever.
	Like, and that just works.
	He's never actually accomplished anything.
	He's never done anything.
	He's never run a freaking shoe store or anything else or worked part-time at McDonald's as far as I know, which, by the way, is a perfectly honorable thing to do.
	He is a child of privilege, the thing that his supporters hate the most.
	But yes, he is, he does want to tax what he's calling white neighborhoods because he thinks all white people are rich.
	He does want to tax them more.
	Then it continued, and this is the main takeaway of the entire thing.
	Here's Zorhan being asked if he thinks Trump is a fascist, something he has repeatedly said over the last year.
	Asked about your comment calling the president a fascist, and your answer was, both President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views.
	Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
	I've spoken about it.
	Okay.
	It's easier.
	It's easier than explaining it.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so that clip right there is when I saw that one, that's where I came up with my secondary thought of what Trump is really doing.
	The fact that he's smiling through it, that he's tapping him on the arm repeatedly, that he's going out of his way to help the guy there, right?
	Because Mom Dami was going to flounder in that answer.
	There's really no way to get around that.
	You're standing in the Ophal office with the president right here.
	You've been calling him a fascist.
	Now you either have to say, well, actually, I was lying or I didn't mean it or, you know, that's just politics.
	Like, just kind of expose your grift and your fraudness.
	Or you have to double down and literally be like, yes, he is a fascist, but I'm going to work with him.
	I happen to be standing with him right now.
	So Trump, maybe in that case, Trump jumped the gun a little bit because you could have let him flounder.
	But I really think what Trump was doing there was, Mr. Nice Guy, Mr. Nice Guy, Mr. Nice Guy, we're in on this together, buddy.
	So if you're going to want anything out of me, you better start playing ball.
	I think that was what Trump's intention was.
	However, then the next, then it was, that was Friday.
	Then on Sunday, Mamdani went over to NBC and he was asked again if he thinks Trump's a fascist.
	In that press conference with President Trump, a reporter asked you whether you believe that President Trump is in fact a fascist, a word that you've used in the past.
	You were about to answer.
	Then President Trump sort of jumped in and he said, quote, that's okay.
	You can just say yes.
	It's easier than explaining it.
	So Mr. Mayor-elect, just to be very clear, do you think that President Trump is a fascist?
	And after President Trump said that, I said yes.
	So you do.
	And that's something that I've said in the past.
	I say it today.
	And I think what I appreciated about the conversation that I had with the president was that we were not shy about the places of disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment.
	Incredible.
	It's incredible how evil he is.
	The fake smile.
	It's all perfectly planned.
	The body motions.
	It's acting.
	It's just method acting.
	It's so obvious.
	So, okay, congratulations.
	You think the president of the United States is a fascist.
	If you really believe that, Moron Zamboni, you wouldn't be working with him.
	You wouldn't be standing there smiling, right?
	Fascists are kind of like Nazis in your imaginary worldview, right?
	Would you be standing there?
	So would you stand next to Hitler?
	And well, you kind of, well, he'd probably be into the Hitler stuff, but okay.
	Here's another question Zorhan asked about all of the times that he tweeted out defund the police.
	And well, watch.
	Five years ago, you were calling for defunding the police.
	Now you are in charge of the largest police department in the country.
	You have tapped Commissioner Jessica Tisch to stay on in her job.
	She has accepted.
	She wants to put thousands more police officers on the streets of New York.
	Will you do that, Mr. Mayor-elect?
	I've said over the course of the campaign that I think the number we've had budgeted of 35,000 officers is a sufficient number.
	What we have to do, however, is allow those officers to focus on police.
	Oh, we have to allow them focus on policing.
	So as you guys know, when he was calling for defunding the police, that was when he was just a radical BLM person.
	Now it's, all right, the number of police is right, but we're going to have them doing other things, right?
	because you know what he wants.
	He wants you to call a social worker if you're in the middle of the middle of a domestic violence incident or anything else.
	So nothing, nothing this guy says bears any meaning other than he is doing it all to attain power.
	And again, if you just can't see it with him, I don't know what to, as a host of a program, I don't know what to tell you, the viewer.
	Well, here's a perfect example of it.
	So, you know, everything was free.
	It's all free.
	The buses are free.
	The healthcare is free.
	You're going to live for free.
	You can eat for free.
	Everything's free.
	Except when he needs your money, which he needs all the time.
	Here's just a quick compilation of the times he's asked for money since being elected.
	Remember how I told you a few months ago to stop sending us money?
	You can start again.
	This transition requires staff, research, and an infrastructure that can meet this moment.
	Still asking for your help because we need to raise $4 million in total.
	So January 1st can be the day we start to deliver, not start to prepare.
	I hope very soon not to have to ask you for money.
	But until then, I'm asking.
	Jeeves, they are changing.
	The air, it is crisp.
	But one thing that stays the same is we still need you to donate.
	There's something about it that's like, it's like purposely insulting.
	Does that seem right to you guys?
	Like, there's something about the way he's doing it.
	Like, he's trying to be funny about asking you for money.
	So he ran this entire thing on money doesn't really mean anything.
	And we're going to take all the money from those people and we'll give you all this stuff for free.
	And then with the music in the background and the quick jump cuts, it's actually, and maybe that's part of it.
	I got to get someone on to study this.
	Maybe we need like a linguistic expert or something or a video editing and somebody.
	Like there's something about it.
	Like it's so, it's all like kind of a throwaway.
	Like now I'm being cute.
	Now I'm just being cute because I need money because now you morons elected me.
	So I'm going to have to partly tell you the truth, but at least we'll do it with jump cuts.
	Good luck, New York.
	You're going to need it.
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	Okay, so what's going on politically besides the Marxist meeting the fascist?
	Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene has announced that she is stepping away from Congress.
	This woman has got more drama than a bravo show in Sweeps Week.
	Listen to this from headline, this from Fox.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene announces resignation from Congress after President Trump withdraws endorsement.
	President Trump called Green a ranting lunatic in a truth social post dropped last week.
	Now, I don't pat myself on the back that often, do I?
	But I will for this moment, because what did I say last week when the whole thing was going on and everyone was like, she's fighting with Trump over Epstein and blah, blah, blah?
	I said, I think what they're actually fighting over is that he's looking at some numbers and it doesn't look like a Senate run or a governor run is going to work for her in Georgia.
	So that's what they're really fighting about because he's probably not going to back her.
	Anyway, they have the fight and now she's just stepping away from Congress altogether.
	Listen to this from Leading Report.
	Breaking Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene fires back at President Trump for calling her a traitor.
	I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for for six years.
	I gave him my loyalty for free.
	He called me a traitor for standing with these women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition.
	Let me tell you what a traitor is.
	A traitor is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.
	Okay, so it's a pretty damning statement.
	Again, the implication is that Trump is serving foreign countries and that he's serving himself as he's fixing the country.
	And I don't want to waste time going through the 10 months of great things that he's been doing.
	But also that she says, what did she say?
	She did it selflessly.
	She did it right.
	What was the exact line?
	Selflessly, is that the word that she said?
	Selflessly on there.
	It's like, lady, I'm pretty sure you got pretty famous and I'm pretty sure you got a lot of notoriety and everything for writing Trump's coattails.
	Now, for whatever reason, politically or you see the tea leaves changing or you see frustration with MAGA or whatever, you're moving on.
	Like it's just, that's how politics works.
	That is what it is.
	So we're going to show you a portion of her resignation speech where she sort of announced if they don't go the way she wants them to go after her, she's going to come back, which is strange to announce the retirement and the comeback in one shot, but okay.
	My only goal and desire has ever been to hold the Republican Party accountable for the promises it makes to the American people and put America first.
	I have too much self-respect and dignity.
	I love my family way too much.
	And I do not want my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the president that we all fought for, only to fight and win my election while Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn be expected to defend the president.
	That is really weak, lady.
	So you're not going to run because it's going to be tough.
	I mean, that's basically what she just said right there.
	I'm not going to put my district through a tough race.
	What is politics?
	What have you been doing all these years, right?
	You've been fighting with everybody.
	And I get it.
	And I try, as I said last week, I'm not going to do it every day this week.
	The giving the devil his do thing.
	Like she's trying to have a little bit of a mea culpa around, oh, I've been kind of mean.
	But what are you saying?
	If this is the fight of everything and you're, this is the most important thing, you just don't, like if you really care about the people of your district, you, and you think you're the best to fight everything, like, why wouldn't you be fighting right now?
	Which again, I think that's probably more proof that she just doesn't think she can win in her own district.
	Here continued.
	I refuse to be a battered wife, hoping it all goes away and gets better.
	If I am cast aside by the president and the MA political machine and replaced by neocons, big pharma, big tech, military-industrial war complex, foreign leaders, and the elite donor class that can never ever relate to real Americans, then many common Americans have been cast aside and replaced as well.
	There is no plan to save the world or a 4D chess game being played.
	When common American people realize and understand that the political-industrial complex of both parties is ripping this country apart, that not one elected leader like me is able to stop Washington's machine from gradually destroying our country.
	And instead, the reality is that they, common Americans, the people, possess the real power over Washington.
	Then I'll be here by their side to rebuild it.
	I'll be resigning from office with my last day being January 5th, 2026.
	And I look forward to seeing many of you again sometime in the future.
	I got to say, guys, I know she's kind of smiling in that and she's saying things that sort of directionally sound right, but something, something does not seem right here.
	If you believed any of that, you've been a fighter all your life.
	Why would you not continue fighting now?
	But if so, the machine that's so evil, that's kicking me out, if that machine replaces me with someone that the machine likes, then I'll get back in and fight again.
	It actually makes no sense.
	And then this thing that everyone seems to be doing, like just to list off all of these things.
	So it's the neocons and big pharma and foreign donors and elites and all of those things.
	Well, lady, to whatever extent any of that is true, how do you think stepping away now and coming back after they've strengthened themselves is any better?
	I just genuinely don't understand it.
	Here's Trump on Truth Social.
	Marjorie Trader Brown, because of plummeting poll numbers and not wanting to face a primary challenge with a strong Trump endorsement where she would have no chance of winning, has decided to call it quits.
	Her relationship with the worst Republican congressman in decades, Tom Massey of Kentucky, also known as Rand Paul Jr., because he votes against the Republican Party in really good legislation, did not help her.
	For some reason, primarily that I refused to return her never-ending barrage of phone calls, Marjorie went bad.
	Nevertheless, I will appreciate Marjorie and thank her for her service to our country, President DJT.
	And then because so much of this is KFAB, right?
	I'm always telling you guys about K-Fabe.
	This is the concept in WWE wrestling where it's like we're watching a staged reality, but we're all kind of in a story and this one turns on this one and this guy disappears for two years and then makes a comeback and now hates the guy he used to love.
	And the two guys who used to love each other now hate this guy and Jake the Snake Roberts and everything else.
	Here's Trump already saying that he would be willing to make up with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	I'm fired with Elon Musk, and you guys were able to work it out.
	No, I get along with everybody.
	We see the same thing happening between you and Trump.
	Sure, why not?
	I mean, I get along with everybody.
	All right, look, I think that's right, right?
	Like, I think that's in some sense.
	It's the same thing that he's done with Elon.
	I think it's the same thing that he's sort of doing with Mamdani.
	Yo, you said horrible things about me.
	I'll be nice to you now.
	We'll fight later.
	So Trump, there's nobody that is better at this sort of thing than Trump, right?
	Playing the game.
	Now, particularly interesting to this, because you may not care.
	Okay, so Marjorie Taylor Greene, I get it.
	She's been like in the media a lot.
	You may not particularly care about her outside of her district in Georgia.
	However, the margins right now in the House are so slim that this actually is important.
	So listen to this.
	The budget resolution, the thing that we just passed that opened the government passed 217 to 215 with Massey as the GOP no.
	And then what that shows you is that if basically one other person defects from the Republican Party, they're in super trouble.
	So meaning they have a very slim majority.
	You're potentially losing her seat now.
	Massey votes both ways, right?
	So he doesn't always vote with the Republicans.
	He has his reasons as a libertarian.
	But this basically could throw the House up.
	Think how much, so with a razor-thin margin of one or two votes, think how much power that puts in the hand of just some random congressman in the middle of nowhere if you want to just get some notoriety and stop Trump right now for whatever the next piece of legislation that comes on down the down the pike.
	So there is something, there is something deeply important to the politics of the day here.
	Thought we'd throw back to that Trump in the Burgundy scarf thing.
	People are really into that.
	It's a good look for him.
	You know what I mean?
	He says, I'm a man.
	I wear a scarf, but it's not a pink scarf.
	I'm still a president, for God's sakes.
	Let's talk about Shopify for a minute, and then we will get to Eric Swalwell, who is going to run for governor of California.
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	There's a place about 3,000 miles that way from here called California.
	It was once the dream of America, right?
	It was once, not only because of its natural beauty, but because you had to, Americans, we like to, we like adventure, right?
	We like exploring.
	We like finding new things.
	And we started, most of us, because Europe's across the Atlantic, we started on the East Coast.
	And then Americans kept moving west and west and west, right?
	And we built this incredible place called California.
	And unfortunately, over the last 10 years, largely because of one man, Gavin Newsom, it has turned into what was once the American dream.
	In many ways, you could argue it's the American nightmare.
	It's giant government.
	It's high taxes.
	It's high regulation.
	All of the COVID stuff.
	It has pushed literally over a million people out in the last four years who want to escape for various reasons.
	Or someone like Elon Musk, who's taken several companies out of Cali, moved them to Texas, and then Gavin actually applauds when he gets rid of someone like that and doesn't worry where the tax money is going to come from for some reason, even though that's what he needs for all his crazy pet projects.
	Well, if you thought it was bad under Gavin Newsom, it could get worse because Eric Swalwell, a man who slept with a Chinese spy named Fang Fang.
	Yes, that is true.
	He also farted on television while he was talking to Chris Matthews.
	Here he is on Jimmy Kimball because it's all theater, announcing that he's running for governor.
	I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
	I love California.
	It's the greatest country in the world.
	Country.
	Greatest country in the world.
	But that's why it pisses me off to see Californians running through the fields where they work from ICE agents or troops in our streets.
	It's horrifying.
	It's horrifying.
	Absolutely.
	Or cancer research being canceled.
	It's awful to look at.
	And our state, this great state, needs a fighter and a protector, someone who will bring prices down, lift wages up.
	And we can say that we're the fourth largest economy in the world, and we are.
	And I love to brag about that.
	But what does that mean if you can't afford to live here?
	So I've been in these fights as a city council member up in Dublin, my hometown, as a prosecutor in Oakland, and taking on the most corrupt president ever in the U.S. Congress.
	But I'm ready to bring this fight home.
	So I came here tonight, Jimmy, to tell you and your audience that I'm running to be the next governor of California.
	Wish it was like old school Johnny Carson and then just a pie got thrown into his face as he said that.
	That would have been great.
	Swalwell, all of the frustrations you have with California are because of your party.
	You have a super majority over there.
	If you're upset that people can't afford things in California, it's partly at least because of you.
	And by the way, it's also who was the president for the last four years?
	Trump's only been in office for 10 months.
	The last four years, it was, well, it was, we don't know who it was exactly.
	There was the old man, there was a pen, there was a crazy lady.
	But the point is, it was your guys that did all of this stuff.
	So now you're going to run.
	And it's like, all right, yeah, you were a congressman.
	You were a lawyer in Oakland.
	Oakland's just an epicenter of loveliness.
	Just absolutely awful.
	And this guy, he's just nothing, right?
	I have Joseph checking right now.
	Like, has the guy done anything?
	Did he do anything in life?
	Did he?
	Two bills passed in 2013.
	He passed two bills in 2013.
	Like, again, it's in some sense, it's like the mom dami thing.
	And by the way, Eric Swalwell, you may remember, he ran when Kamala was running and Joe Biden was running, when they actually had a primary a couple election cycles ago.
	He ran for president.
	They let him in one debate.
	He polled at zero and left.
	Like nobody likes the guy.
	Good luck, Callie.
	Like, I don't care.
	I got my own problems.
	Here he is also telling us that he would like people to be able to vote by phone because that sounds great.
	I want us to be able to vote by phone.
	I think every California vote by phone.
	Yeah.
	If we can do our taxes, do our, you know, our, make our health care appointments, you know, make essentially your, do your banking online, you should be able to vote by phone.
	Make it safe, make it secure, but it's actually already happening.
	all over the United States.
	I want us to be a blue state that doesn't do just a little bit better than like Georgia or Alabama when it comes to like voting access.
	I want us to max out democracy.
	Also, as it relates to democracy, if you wait in line for 30 minutes or more, if you do want to vote in person, I think you should fine every county for every minute that a person has to wait longer.
	I said a pie before, but a frying pan would be fine too.
	He said that multiple, what was that, multiple counties vote by phone?
	We just checked.
	Zero.
	Nobody votes by phone.
	I mean, think about, we already have a problem in that places like California don't ask to see your ID when you vote.
	They ask your name and your address.
	So literally, and I remember this when I lived there, when I would go vote, one time I actually showed them my ID and the guy kind of freaked out, right?
	And he goes, Dave, I don't need to see it.
	He actually knew who I was.
	But like, think about that.
	They don't want to see your ID.
	So if you know your neighbor's name and you know your neighbor's address, you can literally just walk in and vote as your neighbor.
	So neighbor, so you now want this to be on the phone?
	Well, hi.
	I'm Jim Henson.
	I don't know why that was the name that popped into my mind, but it's like, cause they're all Muppets.
	That's why I think.
	Ron DeSantis, a man here in Florida who's cleaned up this place, got something great going here.
	He put this out on the Twitter machine when he saw that video clip.
	Vote voting by phone?
	No.
	How ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	And again, guys, it's like decline is a choice.
	Like you can choose it or not.
	Also, farting is often a choice, sometimes involuntary, though.
	Take a look.
	So I came here tonight, Jimmy, to tell you and your audience that I'm running to be the next governor of California.
	Where is my Emmy?
	Where is my Emmy?
	Oh, I do have an Emmy.
	That's, well, it's a side story in a printout day.
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	I like the fuller beard, right?
	Like that's something there.
	Okay.
	Over in Nashville, which is a spectacular place in the, we can call it the free state of Tennessee, they've got some problems.
	Listen to this headline from the American Prospect.
	Grocery bills and corporate taxes dominate upset bid in Tennessee.
	Often Ben is trying to flip a seat.
	Donald Trump won by 22 points in a December 2nd special election.
	She's sounding populist messages to do it.
	Okay, so this is the congressional district that runs Nashville.
	Nashville, great city.
	You got your honky tonks.
	You got your fried baloney.
	You got the Daily Wire.
	Some other stuff.
	Anyway, so this Democrat, Afton Ben, is a bit of an outlier, I would say, for people that live in Nashville.
	Here she is on a radio show talking about how much she hates Nashville.
	I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city.
	I hate the Bachelorettes.
	I hate the pedal taverns.
	I hate country music.
	I hate all of the things that make Nashville barely in its city to the rest of the country, but I hate it.
	Yeah, I'm that girl at the airport that all these bachelorettes are giddy walking out in their two-tuned colored pant pink shirts.
	And they walk out and I'm like, they're like, oh my God, Nashville.
	So loud.
	I mean, of all the crazy things that the Democrats have done, we're running communists.
	We think boys are girls.
	You're literally now running someone that is on tape saying they hate all the things that everyone loves about Nashville, right?
	Like, it's just such a fun, it's so fun going there.
	If you've never been there, when you walk down, is it just called Main Street?
	What is the, what do they call it?
	The Main Street of Nashville.
	Broadway, they call it Broadway.
	It's like, you know, between the honky tonks and the Bachelorette parties and just the general vibe and the great hot fried chicken and the music.
	It's so much fun.
	It's just a fun, great place.
	The style is cool.
	Everything about people look good.
	And there she is, like everything that's good about it.
	She absolutely hates it.
	What do you mean?
	She hates she hates country music.
	And she's run like, you hate Dolly Parton.
	You hate Morgan Wallen?
	I googled it.
	You hate Jason Aldean?
	Also Googled it.
	What about Kenny Rogers?
	He still, is Kenny Rogers still alive?
	He had some delicious chicken.
	We'll figure that out.
	I think he's dead.
	He's dead.
	Well, Kenny Rogers is dead.
	That's just great.
	Anyway, here's Affin Ben trying to walk back her comments about hating the place that she's running for.
	Republicans decided that they're going to start this narrative that me, the state representative who represents downtown Nashville, doesn't like the city because I hate the city.
	I hate the Bachelorettes.
	I hate the pedal taverns.
	I hate country music.
	I hate all of the things that make Nashville barely.
	Like, also, something interesting about the word hate there, like, she hates the Bachelorette.
	She hates country.
	Like, I don't love country music.
	I don't.
	I do like some Dolly Parton.
	I do like some Kenny Rogers.
	I just said.
	And even Morgan Wallin's not bad.
	Yeah, I know.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	It's just not my thing particularly, but I know it's music and I get fully why people like it.
	Like rap, I don't like at all.
	And I don't understand how anyone listens to it.
	But like that, I get at least.
	But she's just flat out, I hate it.
	Not like it's not my thing.
	You know, I like doo-wop.
	You know, she just freaking hates it.
	Here she is talking more about that she does get annoyed with the tourists and then listen to the spectacular Freudian slip.
	Watch this.
	Trump has called you the AOC of Tennessee.
	And Republicans have resurfaced old comments you made, comments that you made about not liking country music.
	What's your response to these Republican attacks?
	Yeah, as a Nashvillian, I think we all get a little annoyed with the tourists that come to town, but that doesn't mean I love my city.
	In fact, instead of sitting on the sideline and complaining about it, I decided to run for office.
	And that's why I'm the state representative that represents downtown Nashville.
	Did you catch the Freudian slip right there?
	We all get annoyed with tourists, but that doesn't mean I love my city.
	Like even in her apology, even her fake apology tour, she can't even get it right.
	Like, what is going on over there?
	Please, people.
	I also want to say that one of the best gigs that I ever did, I mean, top three, I'd say the top one probably was the Sydney Opera House with Jordan Peterson a couple years ago.
	But one of the second ones, second or third, was the Grand Old Opry in Nashville to be in that room and perform there, live, sold-out crowd.
	The acoustics were amazing.
	The Dolly Parton green room, like it was awesome, absolutely awesome.
	Anyway, here's a bit more as MSNBC even blindsided this lady with some of her old tweets.
	Representative, in 2020, you made some tweets that have since been deleted that were very critical of police.
	You said in those since deleted tweets that the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department should be dissolved.
	Another cheered on a teachers union saying that to fund the police should be a requirement for schools reopening.
	And another saying, good morning, especially to the 54% of Americans that believe burning down a police station is justified.
	2020 was obviously a very fraught year.
	Do you still stand by those comments?
	And if not, is there anything you want to clarify?
	I'm not going to engage in cable news talking points, but what I will say is that, you know, our communities need solutions.
	So you don't want to clarify whether you still believe that the police should be defunded.
	Once again, I don't remember these tweets, but what I'm saying is that I'm not asking you if you remember.
	What is your position today?
	How's that on this issue?
	I mean, once again, I'm here to talk about my raise.
	No shit, Sherlock.
	She's asking you your opinions about things that you might be creating legislation around.
	I mean, it's just perfect.
	She hates country music.
	She can't remember her own tweets.
	Like, how is this happening?
	Like, get it together, Tennessee, Nashville.
	Come on, we're all rooting for you.
	And also, by the way, apparently now, as of November 15th, you're telling me, it is officially MS Now.
	It's not MSNBC anymore.
	So we're going to have to, that's going to take a little while to get in my brain properly.
	But you know, if MS Freaking Now or NBC or MSN Retard, whatever it is, if they're going after you as a Democrat, like you might want to think about what's going on here.
	But the Democrats aren't wacky, Phoenix, roll for me, would you?
	They are a bit wacky.
	And here, we played this for you last week.
	Several Democrats did one of those videos where they just all say something directly to the camera and it looks like they're all about to cry.
	So then you start going, oh my God, they must be saying something true, where they were all telling their, they were telling current members of the military to ignore Trump's illegal orders.
	And as I said during when we played it last week, they never said what the illegal orders are, which I thought was rather interesting.
	Well, anyway, here's a little of the video and then we'll show you some of the fallout.
	I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin.
	Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris DeLuzio.
	Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander.
	Representative Chrissy Houlihan.
	Congressman Jason Crowe.
	Our laws are clear.
	You can refuse illegal orders.
	You can refuse illegal orders.
	You must refuse illegal orders.
	You can, you must.
	Illegal orders.
	So again, what did I say last week?
	It was just so damn obvious.
	If there were illegal orders, they might have listed them out.
	They might have said, here are the five things that actually are illegal.
	And if you're not into it, then you can refuse them.
	But of course they didn't.
	It's just this vague thing so that they can get our good, decent members of the military in trouble while they risk nothing.
	So anywho, Alyssa Slotkin over there, one of the ladies that was on that video, here she is saying she does not know what the illegal orders are.
	I'm shocked and appalled.
	It is very clear that no one should follow an illegal order.
	But it's very murky when you look at what is an illegal order.
	And if you go into morally, ethically, that's a pretty tough thing to look at and say, how do I navigate this?
	I don't, I mean, look, if you're going back to Nuremberg, right, that, well, they told me to do it.
	That's why I murdered people is not an excuse.
	So let's talk right now.
	Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
	To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal.
	Well, then why'd you shoot that commercial, you dumb broad?
	Like, what are you doing?
	What are you doing?
	You put up that video saying, telling them to step away, right?
	They're the ones that are going to pay the price, not you, for doing illegal things or for Donald Trump doing illegal things.
	And now you cannot think of any of them.
	And to connect this to Nuremberg, which was so disgusting, you know, the argument in Nuremberg during the post-World War II trials was that many of the Nazis said, well, I was just following orders, right?
	And that, and then Nuremberg basically said, well, that doesn't count.
	That doesn't count.
	If you do horrible things, you know, you're going to pay the price for it.
	Not just, oh, it came all the way down the chain, so I did horrible things, right?
	So that she's invoking that and then can't even tell you.
	Donald Trump didn't say go kill a citizen, which is what Hitler was doing.
	That was what the Nuremberg trials were about.
	However, Trump's not taking this one lying down.
	He retweeted this from just a random account, a guy by the name of Jim Moran.
	He wrote, go get all those traitorous sons of bitches for sedition.
	At the very least, those pompous, traitorous communists should be impeached and prosecuted.
	So Trump definitely not tamping this one down.
	It's getting a little hot in here as they see.
	What's that video?
	It's getting hot in here.
	It's getting by Nelly.
	Hey, I'm not a fan, but you know, it was hot in the room and he wanted it to cool off.
	Oberon MSN now, they don't cool anything off.
	So here they are celebrating that ICE vehicles are getting their tires slashed.
	In addition to the fact, and I won't say that I'm suggesting this behavior, but ICE agents have found that their tires are slashed.
	They have been found that they have been chased out of the city.
	Stop it.
	Yes, they have been chased out of buildings, chased out of restaurants.
	But that's dangerous behavior.
	It is dangerous behavior, but it is a demonstration that the American public, when they're not being listened to, these are the options that they'll take.
	I hope this administration listens and pulls back these ICE raids.
	Man, what a mafia move that is.
	That's a really nice restaurant you got over there.
	It'd be a damn shame if something happened to it.
	So they're giggling and laughing as they're talking about ICE guys being chased out and their tires being slashed.
	They're giggling and laughing.
	But, but maybe this will make the administration listen to us, right?
	Right?
	Because the Democrats actually control the violence.
	I think you guys understand that.
	It gets weirder.
	There's just so much weirdness on the left.
	There really is.
	There's like nobody's in charge anymore.
	And it has just burst forth across the entire country.
	Let's jump over to Virginia Beach, where a high school assistant principal and brother did some weird stuff.
	Two brothers have been arrested, charged with threatening to shoot police and ICE agents.
	And one of them is an assistant principal at Kempsville High School.
	Yesterday, Beach Police arrested 54-year-old John Bennett.
	School officials say he's currently on leave from his position there.
	The other suspect is 59-year-old Mark Bennett.
	Don't shoot ICE officers.
	Don't do that, right?
	Don't encourage.
	And then it just makes you wonder, like the guy's a school official.
	Like, what are they teaching the kids and everything else?
	And then some weirdness.
	I mean, you know, this is related to doxing and, you know, just threatening neighbors and just everyone kind of being on edge, which is a damn shame.
	As I said, this is Thanksgiving week.
	We should all be so thankful for this country right now.
	But apparently in Ukapia, Texas, Yucapi, California, actually, leftists are terrorizing random people by sending them rather disturbing Christmas cards.
	On the outside, they look like normal Christmas cards, but on the inside, troubling messages.
	What is this?
	Several of these cards and notes were left at the doorsteps of homes in a quiet Ucaipa neighborhood Monday night, leaving residents on edge.
	I pick it up, open it, and it reads, Santa, I want the head of a Nazi under my tree.
	And then I was like, whoa.
	One after another, each card and note carrying violent and threatening messages.
	They're trying to like cause chaos or something before the holidays and really scare people.
	All right.
	That guy's fabulous.
	Number one.
	Number two, you may be going, Dave, it just doesn't matter.
	These are just random people at some random town.
	Why does any of this matter?
	Well, now I'm going to connect it to what I really think is the big story.
	We normally don't end on the big story, but I think this is the big story and this is not going to go away.
	And you should really be aware of this.
	And I'm telling you right now, when it gets to politics at the Thanksgiving table, which one way or another, it always ends up there somehow, as much as you try not to do it.
	But when your crazy aunt Karen is babbling on about whatever, I want you to tell her about this story because we are being manipulated in so many crazy ways.
	It's not just a Christmas card showing up saying the Trump's a Nazi.
	There has been an absolute foreign intelligence operation hitting us across the board.
	And much of it has just been exposed this past weekend.
	This is from Mike Solana over at Pirate Wires.
	X just released a major profile update revealing the location of every user on the platform, triggering chaos among foreign rage farmers and slot peddlers LARPing as American, the massive ranks of which have apparently shaped our culture for years.
	Okay, so we're going to show you a bunch of examples of this in just a second.
	But I tweeted something that I think we read on the show last week that we just have no way to know how we've been manipulated.
	You know, when Elon took over X, we got the X files, right?
	Or the X Files, they called them the Twitter files, I guess, at the time.
	They really were kind of like the X Files now that I think about it.
	And we found out that under the hood, I mean, I went there myself and I sat with engineers and I saw the way the entire system worked.
	And the entire thing was based on shadow banning and how to make sure if you tweet at this person, that person won't see it.
	It was a crazy, crazy system.
	Okay.
	We found out about that, but we didn't find out about what about the YouTube files?
	What about the Facebook files?
	Like, what have all these other companies been doing?
	The other thing that's happened over the years, and if you, for those of you that are on these things for years, like you can start seeing the rhythms of it.
	Six years ago, let's say when bots really got activated, they were all kind of obvious because it was like cut and paste things and it was like the same kind of profile picture.
	And it was, you know, the name would be like Alex, 1496824239642.
	And it was kind of obvious.
	But over the last two or three years, the bots have gotten much more sophisticated.
	And you really can't tell when they're real people or not.
	But what really has happened on X, and this has been particularly in the last two years, I would say post-October 7th, is that these massive accounts appear out of nowhere.
	They seem like they're American and they tweet about American news all the time and they're extremely hostile.
	Like they're very focused usually on breaking us apart.
	And something very weird has been happening.
	It has been obvious.
	So now it is coming out because X decided to release where the accounts were created and where they're downloading the Twitter, the X app.
	And suddenly we are finding out that massive accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers are not American at all.
	So let's just, we can just run through some of these.
	I don't have to read all of the stuff.
	But these are, whether you know these accounts or not, these are huge accounts that most people think are American that have been shaping our discourse.
	Suppressed news right there, which comes from North Africa.
	There you've got Conscious Philosopher, which is always telling people about the better way America used to be.
	That's from Serbia.
	Clash report.
	Sounds like it could be on, you know, Newsmax.
	It's from Turkey.
	We can keep going here.
	Israel exposed.
	This is one of the huge ones that constantly lies about Israel.
	Well, that's from, I can't believe it, Saudi Arabia.
	Jeffrey Epstein is an account from Norway.
	Shocker, you want to keep going here?
	I mean, we got a whole bunch of these.
	These, there's a ton of these.
	So there are these people that pretend they are from Gaza and they've been like live tweeting the war, you know, even though we told they had no food and no electricity.
	So here's Mahmood in Gaza.
	All I hear now is F-35's an intense bomb south.
	Turns out he's in Poland.
	So unless Israel was bombing Poland, that guy was a complete liar.
	Then there's a couple other accounts that say they are from the U.S., but they're using a VPN.
	Now, I understand people use VPNs for all sorts of reasons.
	But as a little bit of subtext of what's going on here, the Fuentes update accounts, Red Pill Media are using these VPNs.
	So it doesn't, and you can tell if people use a VPN if they have an exclamation point in their location.
	So it's just very, very interesting.
	And this I thought was particularly interesting.
	This is from Jefferson Kulak on the X. About half of Nick Fuente's top 20 followers connected via overseas accounts.
	That's billing and app store access access.
	So think about that.
	We've been talking over the last couple of weeks about this kid, Nick Fuentes, who Tucker put on, and Tucker could put whoever the hell he wants to put on his show.
	But this is a kid who's on Team Hitler, who loves Stalin, who every time you tweet, his people bombard you.
	If they don't like you, they bombard you with the most evil, noxious stuff you could possibly imagine.
	Turns out half of the big accounts that follow him are foreign.
	So we have been manipulated in crazily, crazily effective ways by bad actors.
	I put this up yesterday and it caught fire.
	This is an absolutely massive story of foreign ops shaping our political and cultural discourse.
	Will mainstream media even cover it?
	Will the set of influencers who fell for it look in the mirror?
	Stay tuned.
	Now, I'll do the latter part first.
	Will the set of influencers who have been buying this?
	Like you can get a shit ton of clicks by going to conspiracy theories, by doing things that will burn down America, by making everybody hate everybody.
	It's all the reverse of what I do on this show, right?
	And I'm not saying I've never fallen prey to some of the behaviors of X and said things that are crazy and everything else.
	None of us are perfect, of course.
	But there's been a certain set of people that particularly for the last two years were getting crazy amounts of retweets, crazy amounts of likes, were sharing accounts that they thought were from America and they weren't.
	That's deeply, deeply interesting.
	And we better start unpacking and understanding that.
	And then I think the previous point is the important one.
	Is mainstream media even going to cover this, right?
	We always talk about there's a huge chasm between what mainstream media covers and what online media covers.
	Mainstream media might be interested in this story.
	And if they aren't, we should think about that.
	So we will see in the next day or two.
	I thought this was quite good from Insurrection Barbie on X.
	It was all astro-turfed.
	The whole MAGA civil war was astro-turfed.
	It consists of some libertarians who shock of shocks are isolationists and people who are not in America.
	That's why polling on the Iran strike came back in Trump's favor.
	I never get tired of being right.
	So you get what she's saying there.
	So this is, this is, and I think this is right.
	I think we read you a poll last week that showed that the thing that Trump was polling highest on was the Iran op.
	Something like 80% of Republicans were supportive of that.
	But if you go online, it seems like everybody's an isolationist and everybody hates Israel and everybody hates America doing anything in the world.
	And now we find out it's a couple influencers, like it's like the Tucker Fuentes class being fed in by bots and foreign agents and everything else.
	So this is an unbelievably massive story.
	And to whatever extent over the last couple of weeks, I've been talking about this right-wing civil war.
	One of the things I've been thinking about a lot privately, I've been thinking about a lot and sort of trying to connect that to what goes on in my life is how much of this is leaking into the real world.
	And it's very hard to tell.
	And when I go out and I play basketball with my guys or I meet people in the stores, like I think most, most, I don't know one Trump supporter that has abandoned Trump.
	I don't know anyone that thinks he's suddenly evil and compromised and everything else.
	Maybe you want some things to happen faster.
	Maybe you're not sure about every decision.
	But if you go online, the hate that has been manufactured there to Trump and MAGA, now we're finding out.
	Again, it was like a very specific set of libertarians that don't like him.
	That's the Thomas Massey version of it, right?
	And that's why Trump doesn't like him.
	And then it was just astro-turfed by foreign actors.
	And that is profoundly amazing.
	But I didn't want to end on that.
	And we will definitely be covering that story more.
	So I did want to end with this, in case you didn't see it over the weekend.
	We put up an interview that I largely was able to do without talking about politics.
	But I had Cheryl Hines on.
	And for those of you that watch Kirby Enthusiasm, she played Sheryl David, Larry's wife.
	They did it.
	The show took, it wasn't 24 seasons.
	How many seasons did they have?
	I'm going to guess around 14 or so, something like that.
	But it was the course of 24 years because they took some years off.
	We'll get the number on the seasons.
	Oh, she's a great actress.
	And she also, as you probably know, 12 seasons over the course of 24 years.
	She is married to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	So, you know, we've played a couple clips of her over the last few weeks as she's gone on this book tour, which is mostly to talk about Kirby or enthusiasm in her acting career.
	She suddenly ends up on The View and she ends up on these other shows and they're attacking her over politics.
	So I asked her what it's been like for her as she's evolved and as she's gone on this journey with Bobby to come from liberal, lefty Democrat Hollywood and then meet all of these scary Republicans.
	You know, you're a Hollywood person.
	So now suddenly you're kind of welcomed in these right-wing circles and that it was surprising for you to find that these people were kind of nice and kind.
	And I went through a version of that myself 10 years ago when I was kind of evolving.
	And are you still kind of surprised by it that these conservatives are usually pretty kind of nice and open-minded and tolerant and decent and all that stuff?
	Yeah, I am.
	I mean, that being said, I don't know what I was expecting.
	I guess I was expecting, you know, the flip side of what I'm experiencing with maybe the left, because the left, some people are very emotional and upset.
	And then my experience with the right has been, they have been accepting and warm.
	So that's been a little surprising.
	So the reason I wanted to end that and connect that to the previous segment about the bots and everything else is that if you go online, particularly over the last couple of weeks, it has seemed that there has been this massive right-wing civil war and MAGA's falling apart and all of this stuff.
	And I've desperately tried not to feed into that.
	I try to criticize things and people as in like sort of in their own little box and not add fuel to the fire all the time and everything else.
	And it turns out now we have the evidence that much of it was fake.
	But what is real?
	It's what Cheryl said right there, because it's what I went through.
	And I have no doubt, I mean, I know this for sure.
	It's what many of you have gone through as you've evolved politically, as you woke up because of COVID or as you woke up because of identity politics and you were kind of just like a default moderate liberal.
	You suddenly found a home on the right.
	And the right has something that is deep and rich that is a wide tent right now.
	And that is what Trump has been doing.
	So that people like her and Bobby Kennedy are now on the right.
	I know right left doesn't mean anything in some sense anymore.
	Like we have to get past some of that stuff.
	But you get it, right?
	Like that a whole bunch of us that are willing to agree to disagree and just be kind and love each other and be part of a really the America that the founders wanted, we have a home right now.
	And it's not the home that's being astro-turfed and destroyed by sort of opportunists and grifters and foreign actors.
	And you've got to figure out which home you want to be in, which home I want to be in.
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