Nov. 21, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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Unlike Republicans, I at least don't go out and just tell lies. | |
| You are a bull artist. | ||
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Respectfully, get the f out of my country. | |
| It was an interesting use of the word respectfully. | ||
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But until then, I'm asking. | |
| It's so evil. | ||
| It can never even be entertained. | ||
| Connor, you're legal, right? | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
| It is Friday, November 21st in the year, 2025. | ||
| I'm Dave Rubin. | ||
| This is the Rubin Reports. | ||
| Time for another Friday roundtable extravaganza. | ||
| And joining me is PragerU Commentator, first-time Rubin Report guest, Franklin Andres Camargo, and repeat Rubin Report, panelist, host of Family Matters, C.J. Pearson. | ||
| Gentlemen, welcome to the show. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| CJ, you've been on many times, so I'm going to give Franklin 30 seconds to explain who he is to the crowd. | ||
| Franklin, go. | ||
| Yes, I'm a political commentator. | ||
| I work for Prager U, and the reason why I have this accent is because I was born and raised in Venezuela. | ||
| I'm a socialism survivor. | ||
| I had to escape my country after being accused of being a terrorist. | ||
| And the reason why I started to do politics is because as a kid, I had the opportunity to come to the U.S. and see the results of a free and successful society. | ||
| So I fell in love with this country. | ||
| And when I needed freedom the most, this country opened its doors for me. | ||
| It wasn't my right to be here. | ||
| It was a privilege. | ||
| It was a blessing. | ||
| So now I dedicate my time to try to keep this country the greatest on earth. | ||
| And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the type of immigrant we want here in this great country. | ||
| CJ, for anyone that doesn't know you, I'll give you 30 seconds in your fancy suit over there somewhere in DC. | ||
| Who the hell is CJ Pearson? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Well, Dave, thank you so much for having me. | ||
| And good to see you as well, Franklin. | ||
| So yeah, 23 years old, been fighting the conservative movement since I was 12 years old, making YouTube videos, tweeting, causing trouble. | ||
| And I actually worked for PragerU as well, which was an incredible time, you know, fighting the belly of the beast over in LA. | ||
| But this past cycle was served as the national chair of the RNC Youth Advisory Council. | ||
| So work closely with the campaign leadership and the RNC on how to reach young people where they are. | ||
| And that was a critical, critical thing that we did. | ||
| I also am the creator of the Cruel Kids Party that New York Magazine famously derided. | ||
| And we've been taking that show on the road. | ||
| And each party gets bigger and bigger. | ||
| We've done it with Soldier Boy, Rick Ross, Waka Flaca. | ||
| Up next, maybe Nikki Minaj is looking like. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Oh, fancy, fancy. | ||
| And for people that don't remember that, we'll throw up the image of the cover on the magazine. | ||
| And they basically, I mean, the basic implication was that you guys are a white supremacist group. | ||
| I don't know if it's the coloring on my TV here, but you appear to be black to me. | ||
| And they literally cropped out the black people from the image. | ||
| And then you posted the further images, which we'll show as well. | ||
| So just crazy stuff. | ||
| But I did want to have you guys on together, not only because of the Prager U connection, but also there's just seemingly a lot going on on the right right now as it relates to young people. | ||
| So we'll hit on that and a bunch more. | ||
| But I want to just kind of get us caught up on some of the stuff of the week. | ||
| So I want to start with a guy who I would say is an old friend of mine who we've sort of gone our separate ways politically. | ||
| And we're going to play two videos right now of Sam Harris. | ||
| One of them on sort of the ways we've parted politically. | ||
| And then the second one will be in ways that we've kind of, I would say, come together politically. | ||
| Here is Sam Harris on the Trigonometry podcast talking a bit about the reaction post-Charlie Kirk's death. | ||
| There's no party left of center, real party for political assassination. | ||
| And yet, right of center, very prominent people from the president and Elon on down treated it like the first shot fired in the Civil War. | ||
| Totally irresponsible, totally dishonest. | ||
| I mean, these people were arsonists pretending to be firefighters. | ||
| I mean, he is just flinging matches into a landscape that has been just soaked in gasoline. | ||
| And the soaking has been done mostly by Trump and Trumpism and just what the grifters. | ||
| Okay, so look, as I said, Sam was a friend of mine, so I don't want to make this, I at least don't want to make this personal, but I thought there was something interesting there because, you know, right after Charlie was killed, and CJ, you definitely knew Charlie. | ||
| Franklin, did you ever get to meet Charlie? | ||
| I actually met him in 2019 in a TPUSA event. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| So we all knew Charlie, but right after he died, it wasn't that I, from my position, it wasn't that people were suddenly all blaming the left blanket-wise for it. | ||
| It was more, oh, the rhetoric that you guys have used against us were Nazis, we're racists, we're white supremacists, we hate trans people, whatever, all that stuff, that at some point it would escalate to a situation like this. | ||
| So CJ, first off, do you think that that's a fair diagnosis? | ||
| And how deep do you think the rot is when it comes to political violence on the left? | ||
| Because there's a lot of data showing that particularly young people, they are okay with it. | ||
| Yeah, you even had an article that recently came out from The Atlantic where it actually acknowledged the fact that the left has a political violence problem. | ||
| You know, when the left is losing the Atlantic, I think that's pretty indicative of where these bullets are coming from. | ||
| And they're coming almost exclusively from the left to the right. | ||
| And so, you know, you talk about the rhetoric that oftentimes the left has used to describe conservatives and Republicans, whether it's fascists, Nazis, Hitler, whatever. | ||
| They continue to use that rhetoric. | ||
| They continue to double down. | ||
| You see Gavin Newsom from his official account on X calling President Trump a fascist, the very thing that was on a showcasing in the gun that was used to assassinate Charlie Kirk. | ||
| These people, you know, I think I used to think it was a, you know, a little bit of a hyperbole when people would say, oh, the left wants us dead. | ||
| They have shown that they actually do really want us dead in many such cases. | ||
| And so I've got to say, you know, it's unfortunate to see him trying to just gloss over this and act like we created this problem for ourselves as if conservatives just want to get shot, want to have security everywhere we go. | ||
| No, that's not the case. | ||
| It's actually shameful that when you go to a college campus where you're supposed to have the free and fair exchange of ideas, that you have to have a security guard now because you don't know if some deranged transgender will try to kill you for saying basic biological facts. | ||
| Like that is a reality that we currently live in. | ||
| And it's not progressives. | ||
| You know, I was on Jubilee like this past week and I was asking Parker, I was like, hey, like, do you have to have like security when you go to place? | ||
| He's like, why would I have to do that? | ||
| Why don't they have to do that? | ||
| Because conservatives are not killing these people. | ||
| They're not tripping. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The simple truth that everyone knows is that any far-left whackadoodle could show up at any college in America and conservatives aren't going to try to burn the place down or pull fire alarms or threaten them or anything else. | ||
| And we know it doesn't go the other way. | ||
| And by the way, all of our friend, the great Dennis Prager, as he always says, the right thinks that the left is wrong. | ||
| The left thinks that the right is evil. | ||
| That's a fundamental difference. | ||
| But Franklin, what do you make of this? | ||
| Yeah, actually, let me quote Dennis Prager because he said something that is really interesting. | ||
| He said, I used to mention that the moral compass of the left is broken. | ||
| No, it's not that it's broken. | ||
| It's that it doesn't even exist anymore. | ||
| They don't have a moral compass right now. | ||
| There was a poll that was made by YouGov that revealed that 62% of young people who identify themselves as very liberal are okay with political violence to achieve a political or objective goal, which is, of course, a disgrace. | ||
| The fact that that amount of young people are willing to use force to try to stop ideas to actually try to stop fats. | ||
| And here's the difference between the left and the right. | ||
| On the right, we can disagree. | ||
| We even disagree among ourselves, but we understand that free speech is a fundamental value. | ||
| It is an American value. | ||
| When you disagree with someone, you debate. | ||
| You engage in an exchange of ideas. | ||
| But the left, they actually think that if they disagree with you, they should use force to stop you. | ||
| They think it's justified. | ||
| And when they call you Hitler, when they call you Nazi, when they call you a fascist, that is such a dangerous act. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because let's just ask a very basic question. | ||
| What is justified to stop someone like Hitler? | ||
| Anything, of course, because he would kill you. | ||
| He would go after you. | ||
| He would destroy you. | ||
| So you should use force to stop him because that would be self-defense. | ||
| So when you try to call someone Hitler just because he has a different view, you are doing something that is very dangerous. | ||
| And let's not forget something. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, which I fully agree, I agree with him on almost everything, but even for the people who disagree with him, the thing that he would do, if you disagree with him, was to provide a microphone. | ||
| Let's debate. | ||
| Let's have a conversation. | ||
| And that is the American way. | ||
| Around the world, you are not allowed to do that in many countries, in many places, even in the UK, even in so many Western nations. | ||
| So we need to stop the left because we cannot normalize this type of violence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there's also a fundamental difference between them calling us, say, Nazis and fascists, where we call them socialists and communists because that's what they call themselves, right? | ||
| Like that's a fundamental, fundamental difference. | ||
| But okay, so I want to show you one other clip because here now is Sam, also on trigonometry. | ||
| And this is someone who has had complete and utter Trump derangement syndrome and cut a lot of people out of his life who ended up supporting Trump, which is kind of unfortunate. | ||
| But here he is acknowledging. | ||
| I mean, this is wild, actually acknowledging that Trump has not only done good, but maybe deserves the Nobel Prize for it. | ||
| I think he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for having brought the hostages back, right? | ||
| I mean, I think that's I have no problem saying that, right? | ||
| So readily admit that that was a massive achievement. | ||
| Whatever happens next, I mean, there's not going to be peace in the Middle East as a result of this ceasefire. | ||
| So I'm not, I'm very skeptical and pessimistic about the outcome. | ||
| But just that piece, getting all the living hostages back, was massive. | ||
| There was no Democrat who was going to do it. | ||
| President Kamala Harris wasn't going to do it. | ||
| Biden wouldn't have done it. | ||
| Many of his weaknesses as a president, as a person, translated in that specific area into strengths, right? | ||
| His unpredictability, his unprincipledness, the fact that he could just throw over the chessboard and walk away for another year. | ||
| So CJ, you can see I'm trying to give the guy credit here, but what he does there at the end, you know, he's basically poking the guy who he's also saying did the unthinkable and got the hostages back and everything else. | ||
| That unpredictability and throwing the chessboard up and all that, that's the stuff that causes enemies to be like, oh, we better not FRO with this guy. | ||
| Yeah, you're exactly right. | ||
| It's what keeps him at the negotiation table. | ||
| It's exactly why he was able to go and bring Kim Jong-un to the table when no other president had been able to do that. | ||
| People forget about that. | ||
| You know, he was calling him Rocket Man, all these things, and he was threatening to basically nuke North Korea if they didn't, you know, do what we wanted them to do. | ||
| And that type of, you know, kind of unpredictability that the president often displays is one of his biggest bargaining tools, whether it's, you know, economic policy via his tariff policy or whether it's just general foreign policy issues. | ||
| And so, no, it's definitely a great thing that he utilizes and he's utilized it to win. | ||
| Like, my entire thing is that you can question someone's strategies, tactics, whatever. | ||
| You can't question results and the guy gets results. | ||
| Like, that's my thing. | ||
| He'd be mad, but he gets results. | ||
| So, Franklin, to that point, what have you learned? | ||
| I mean, even just in your time in America, about what we call Trump derangement syndrome? | ||
| Because it seems to me that although, yes, I get it, they don't like the tweets and they don't like some of the behavior and this and that and whatever. | ||
| We've all been through that forever. | ||
| But because he directionally is right on almost everything, even his biggest haters like Sam there end up crediting the guy. | ||
| And then, of course, he's needling him at the end. | ||
| But it tells you something about the psychology around all this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Actually, I'm going to give him credit for that. | ||
| Many leftists wouldn't even recognize something that is objectively positive about Donald J. Trump. | ||
| I mean, would actually someone deny the fact that releasing and freeing the hostages is a positive thing? | ||
| Well, of course, those who support Hamas and who reject and hate Western civilization would argue that it's not necessarily positive. | ||
| But yeah, I see it. | ||
| I see it every day. | ||
| Many of the things that the left right now promotes is not even based on values or ideas, but it's just a reaction to whatever Trump does or says. | ||
| If Trump says something that is objectively good, it doesn't matter because Trump said it. | ||
| Therefore, the left is going to try to reject it or it's going to try to oppose it. | ||
| And actually, we see it with the EFSIM files. | ||
| They didn't care about that during four years when they thought they could use it as a political weapon. | ||
| They tried to show some interest, but they don't really care about that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I brought that point up several times this week. | ||
| It's like, you guys had all the opportunity to go anywhere with this. | ||
| You did nothing. | ||
| So clearly you think this has some stank that you can attach to Trump on and all that. | ||
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| All right, so I want to show you this video of Nalen Haley. | ||
| This is Nikki Haley's son. | ||
| I've met him a couple times over the years. | ||
| Seems like a kind of bright young guy. | ||
| I'm guessing that you guys maybe have crossed paths with him. | ||
| He was on Tucker Carlson talking about sort of what young conservatives want right now. | ||
| Growing up here is a big part of understanding the country. | ||
| We need to stop and limit the amount of foreign students that are coming into our universities. | ||
| Some of them are spies, by the way, for foreign governments. | ||
| But it's also just we should put our kids first. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And we should also not allow dual citizenship because that's the stupidest idea. | ||
| You're either American or you're not. | ||
| And everyone wants to make it so complicated. | ||
| That's the thing that I don't like about the past generation. | ||
| It's always about the rules, the process, and regulation. | ||
| No, it's really simple. | ||
| You're just America first. | ||
| People should have their loyalty to America first. | ||
| And if they can't do that, then this ain't the country for you. | ||
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That's totally right. | |
| What about serving in a foreign military? | ||
| Oh, gosh, no, forget about it. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
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Of course not, right? | |
| It's ridiculous. | ||
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You're not describing the priorities of the modern Republican Party at all here. | |
| No, but hopefully one day it will be. | ||
| So, CJ, what do you make of this? | ||
| I mean, there's obviously a lot of talk right now on what's happening, particularly with young men on the right, Tucker and the Fuentes thing, and there's obviously just a lot going on in that ecosystem right now. | ||
| You know, I'm completely with him on the foreign students thing. | ||
| The dual citizenship thing, I'm not totally sure about that because, you know, if you were a perfectly decent person who grew up in Canada and you want to become an American, do you have to renounce your Canadian citizenship just because you move here? | ||
| I mean, I don't, there's something that seems a little too that could be talked through a little bit more, but what do you think? | ||
| I would say definitely for elected officials, there's no reason you should be a dual citizen of any other country. | ||
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You know, your priority should be a fair distinction. | |
| Would be America, you know, as far as everyday citizens. | ||
| You know, I think, like you said, I think that there's a robust discussion to be had about that issue. | ||
| I think right now, you know, young men are definitely disillusioned. | ||
| And I think that it's in large part because of the fact that we have had this, you know, I think we've been in so much foreign turmoil as of late. | ||
| And I think there is an affordability crisis in America. | ||
| There are a lot of people who've gone to college, they've done all the things that, you know, they've checked all the boxes, but yet they're struggling to find a job. | ||
| They're struggling to afford, you know, to live here in the country. | ||
| And, you know, we've seen, you know, of course, the prioritization of things like HP, you know, H-1B visas and all that stuff, which has, you know, made a lot of people very, very angsty in terms of that. | ||
| So I get where he's coming from. | ||
| And I think that it's a discussion that's definitely being had a lot among young conservatives. | ||
| Remains to be seen whether or not that'll be adopted by the broader Republican Party, but it's definitely a conversation being had. | ||
| Yeah, Franklin, what do you make of that? | ||
| It seems that there's now a growing movement on the right for the government to be more involved in their lives, that the government should be fixing all of these things, which obviously is more of a leftist idea. | ||
| You grew up in Venezuela, as you pointed out. | ||
| I understand the inclination, but perhaps they should be careful what they wish for. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| And it is actually a problem. | ||
| It is a problem that I think is a result of our institutions. | ||
| It is a result of education, indoctrination. | ||
| The left has been infiltrating itself in so many places and has been promoting anti-American ideas. | ||
| Of course, there is an affordability issue, and we need to talk to young people about that. | ||
| Housing, be able to afford a house as someone who is young is very tough. | ||
| It's very hard. | ||
| The question is, why? | ||
| And the reason, or my answer would be: well, statism, big government, zoning regulations, government spending, actually a huge welfare state. | ||
| The federal government spends around 60% of the federal budget just on entitlements. | ||
| So we have a big government that has left behind free markets ideas, free capitalism. | ||
| So it's making the lives of young people harder, more difficult. | ||
| And the solution that some people are promoting, not just on the left, sometimes even on the right, is more government, that this would be a horrible mistake to make. | ||
| But we also need to pay attention to what is happening in our culture and to what is happening in our education system. | ||
| Because when young kids go to school, they are taught to hate America. | ||
| They are taught to hate our values. | ||
| They are taught to hate the greatest nation on earth. | ||
| I like to say that the reason why young people right now do not feel passionate about capitalism, the reason why, in fact, they hate capitalism is because they hate America, not the other way around. | ||
| Free markets as an idea is a result of the American Foundation, the fact that the government should be limited, should only exist to protect individual rights. | ||
| And if we left that behind, we're going to be in trouble. | ||
| If we are on the right, we should be the ones promoting individual freedom. | ||
| And I see some people on the right who want to embrace actually big government, they want to embrace some of the sadly identity politics. | ||
| And that would be a huge mistake. | ||
| But again, I think it's a result of what we are witnessing on our universities and institutions. | ||
| I think those people on the right who have some of them more in common with the left, in my opinion, like Nick Fuentes, they are useful to the left. | ||
| That's why you see the New York Times, for instance, showing Nick Fuentes as the future or the replacement of Charlie Kirk, which of course he's not, but the left wants it to be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| CJ, real quick on that point, I mean, is this really what the horseshoe theory is in some sense? | ||
| Because to me, although, look, Trump's been president now for 10 months, he's done a freaking incredible job so far, but you can't solve everything at once. | ||
| And there's a certain kind of impatience with people that then may push them towards wanting more government involvement. | ||
| But you got to get it. | ||
| To me, you got to give the guy a chance to make things happen, which is what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah, I think the problem here is like there's a fundamental misunderstanding of politics with a lot of these people. | ||
| Congress is not meant to be a fast-moving institution. | ||
| They don't even show up to work most at all, really. | ||
| I think they just got back from a very lengthy recess during the government shutdown. | ||
| And so, yeah, I think the president can only work with a team that he has. | ||
| And at the end of the day, it's like if we really want, you know, to shepherd his agenda through faster, we need better leaders in Congress to help that happen. | ||
| We don't just need to elect Republicans. | ||
| We need to elect conservatives. | ||
| And, you know, unfortunately, there's a lot to be desired in that category, unfortunately. | ||
| Or most of them could just go home and we could see how we do without them. | ||
| That might be interesting. | ||
| Speaking of one of them going home, here she goes, Nancy Felosi, she's retiring. | ||
| Fire the clans. | ||
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This is your first interview since you've announced that you'll be retiring at the end of your term. | |
| Why go now? | ||
| Why did I retire? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I've been eager to sort of go into another phase of life for a while. | ||
| I thought Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016 and the Affordable Care Act would be intact and our country would be in great hands. | ||
| She was so qualified. | ||
| And then that didn't happen. | ||
| So we had to stay to make the fight. | ||
| And now we're making the fight again. | ||
| Franklin, she stayed around after 2016, another nine years. | ||
| I'm not sure what she accomplished, although she got pretty damn rich. | ||
| That lady trades above the market like you would not believe. | ||
| She will not be very missed. | ||
| Let me paraphrase, Lord Octon. | ||
| Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely anyone. | ||
| The fact that a politician can have an entire career in Washington, D.C., for 30, 40, 50 years is simply disgusting. | ||
| And I think that the founding fathers, when they thought about, you know, serving the public and being a public official, they didn't think about people being in Washington D.C. or being in politics actually in Congress for so many decades. | ||
| It is a huge mistake. | ||
| In politics, I want to see individuals, I want to see productive minds from different sectors who have been successful in the private industry, and then they can add some value to our lives. | ||
| But how do we have people in Congress who haven't ever earned money from the private sector, but they only know how to survive through the government, through the state, through promising free stuff to people? | ||
| And that is a huge mistake because actually that's when corruption starts. | ||
| When you find politicians, when you find individuals representing the same district for decades, it is horrible. | ||
| And I fully support term limits. | ||
| I mean, if the president, of course, has term limits, any other public official should have term limits. | ||
| And by the way, look what New York City just elected. | ||
| I mean, the guy has quite literally no experience running anything, but they gave him some lo-fi music and a soft lens. | ||
| CJ, I mean, the irony here is that, you know, she probably is replaced by someone even more far left than her. | ||
| So we should, you know, we can kind of make fun of it, but it's like, all right, here we go. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's almost inevitable, right? | ||
| She actually was in the middle of a primary challenge from AOC's former chief of staff. | ||
| You know, so she, and the guy is super wealthy. | ||
| He was on the founding team of a pretty successful startup and was self-funding his campaign. | ||
| So I think she read the writing on the wall that even Nancy Pelosi may not have a place in this modern Democratic Party where you're led by the Momdanis, the Ilhan Omars, the Corey Bushes of the world. | ||
| And so I think she was right to probably, you know, get out while she could. | ||
| I will say I will miss her because I won't be able to track her stock investments anymore, which my entire 401k is based upon. | ||
| So I don't even know. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| CJ's got some cash. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| I've got Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| I'm guessing I gotta do Dan Crenshaw now. | ||
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All right. | |
| So the reason I wanted to show you this story is because it's actually quite horrific, but you probably did not hear about it this week because the racial component did not fit the intersectional calculator. | ||
| Had it gone the other way, it would be front page everywhere. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| This is from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Chicago. | ||
| Lawrence Reed, 50 of Chicago, is charged with committing a terrorist attack against a mass transportation system. | ||
| Reed approached the victim who was seated with her back towards him, took a cap off a bottle of liquid and poured the liquid all over the victim's head and body. | ||
| The complaint states, the victim ran, but Reed caught up with her, at which point he ignited the bottle and it fell out of his hand onto the floor. | ||
| The complaint states. | ||
| Reed picked up the bottle that was now on fire, approached the victim, and used the bottle to light her on fire. | ||
| The complaint states, the victim was engulfed in flames, but was able to depart the train. | ||
| She remains hospitalized with critical injuries. | ||
| And let me just show you quickly this video of a Chicago official pointing out that nobody tried to help her. | ||
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Perhaps people were afraid to get involved. | |
| But what we could say is even as she was on the ground trying to put herself out and is rolling on the ground, desperately trying to put out the fire, no one came to her aid until she was able to get off the train and to the platform. | ||
| And when she finally stumbled down, two Samaritans came and put out all the blaze that was all consuming her. | ||
| All right, so there's a couple of things here. | ||
| Look, this is only, you know, about three months post-Zarina Arutska, the Ukrainian, 23-year-old, beautiful Ukrainian woman who was killed on the Charlotte light rail for no reason whatsoever. | ||
| This seems to have no motive whatsoever. | ||
| CJ, I hate to do like the racial component of this, but this story, if it went the other way, would be everywhere. | ||
| And that's why I thought it was worth covering because it's like, this is an innocent woman who will now live with these scars literally and figuratively for the rest of her life. | ||
| It's absolutely absurd. | ||
| I think you raise a very valid point. | ||
| This is the first time I'm hearing of this story, and I track the news for a living, right? | ||
| And so it's insane to see. | ||
| But again, it goes to show why President Trump has taken such a involved effort and just reigning in crime in this country. | ||
| Because you look at a lot of these cities like Chicago, they've become third world countries. | ||
| It's like it's kind of funny to me because a lot of people have always referred to kind of jokingly Chicago as Chirac. | ||
| And we just kind of would just laugh it off as if that is acceptable. | ||
| Like, why are we comparing a city in America to a Middle Eastern, just dystopia? | ||
| And we were just okay with that. | ||
| And we don't have to be okay with that. | ||
| We can do hard things. | ||
| We can reign in crime. | ||
| We can handcuff the criminals and not the police. | ||
| And so I'm, you know, it's unconscionable that this is not being covered. | ||
| But also, too, the media has shown an unwillingness to cover many important stories. | ||
| Like just this past week, it took Nikki Minaj to shine a light on the fact that thousands of Christians are being slaughtered in Nigeria. | ||
| They didn't care about that until she started talking about it. | ||
| And that's insane. | ||
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| And I think there is some sort of Daniel Penny effect here where people are just afraid to do the right thing because they don't want to be called racist and sued and have their lives ruined too. | ||
| But I thought I would show you this, Franklin. | ||
| This is an image of all, well, at least a portion. | ||
| It might be all. | ||
| I'm not actually sure. | ||
| Of Zorhan Mandami's tweets about defunding the police. | ||
| So to the backdrop of a story like that, just last night as we're recording this in New York City, I think on the Upper East Side, there were hundreds of pro-Hamas protesters outside a synagogue chanting River to the Sea. | ||
| I mean, it seems to me that it is just going to get worse in cities. | ||
| I almost see no way around it in blue cities. | ||
| Yes, it is going to get worse. | ||
| And actually, we need to make the connection between leftism, wokeism, and these type of atrocities and incidents because this is what happens when leftism takes place. | ||
| Right now, the left, anti-common sense, they think that criminals are victims. | ||
| They're oppressed. | ||
| They're victims of this system, this white supremacy system. | ||
| Therefore, if they commit a crime, they don't go to prison. | ||
| They are free on the streets. | ||
| They can commit dozens of crimes and they would still be on the streets. | ||
| And then, of course, they're going to be committing more crimes. | ||
| Human beings, we are driven by incentives. | ||
| And evil people, they're going to commit more crimes if they know they're not going to pay the consequences for it. | ||
| If I think that one of the reasons why Trump was so successful in his election is that it was a common sense revolution on many areas: immigration, border security, foreign policy, of course, the economy, but crime. | ||
| Sometimes we don't talk enough about crime because it's more a local issue, and every city is different, every state is different. | ||
| But those liberal bluest cities are such in a horrible state because they want it to be that way, because they divide the society between oppressors and oppressed people. | ||
| So they don't want to go after criminals. | ||
| And I think that one of the messages that the right-wing movement, the conservative movement, needs to have is an anti-crime, is a tough on crime policy that would be extremely popular among many Americans. | ||
| Maybe no blue-haired Democrats in New York that just elected Mamdani, who actually wants to defund the police and he wants to send social workers to go after criminals. | ||
| Well, that, of course, is a disgrace and they're going to pay the consequences of it. | ||
| But most of Americans around the country actually would actually support a tough on crime policy. | ||
| Yeah, I'm completely with you on that. | ||
| And that gives Trump at least one avenue to make the midterms a little less of a bloodbath that they probably appear that they're going to be. | ||
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| Okay, so I want to show you this video. | ||
| This is Colorado Congressman Jason Crowe, and he is one of the Democrats who was in a, I suppose it was a viral video where they were encouraging current service members to not abide by their duty, their sworn duty, to protect the United States, but actually go against the orders, what they claimed were illegal orders by President Trump and Pete Hegseth. | ||
| But of course, they never explained what those illegal orders were. | ||
| So this video went viral. | ||
| Then Crowe showed up on Martha McCallum on Fox. | ||
| So when you see this video on all over the place, when you see this video on social media, I think a lot of people scratch their heads and they say, What exactly are they talking about? | ||
| Are they talking about not allowing gunboats to make it to the United States carrying drugs? | ||
| I mean, is that what you're talking about? | ||
| Martha, here's a novel idea. | ||
| How about we actually prevent things from happening before they become a problem? | ||
| I think that's what they're trying to do. | ||
| It's reminding them of their obligation from the commander-in-chief that we are asking our military to carry out. | ||
| Are you objecting to? | ||
| This is very, very vague. | ||
| And it was so vague in this video. | ||
| Nobody, I don't think people could figure out what you guys were all talking about, honestly. | ||
| Martha, Donald Trump has made a series of very disturbing comments and suggestions that would violate U.S. law and put our military in terrible positions. | ||
| Again, we're getting nowhere. | ||
| But you're not talking about an obligation. | ||
| I don't want to wait until that happens to remind our troops of their obligation because then it'll be too late. | ||
| We are standing by our troops and our amazing men and women in uniform to remind them who sign up every day as you did to carry out the orders of the commander-in-chief. | ||
| We are not engaged in new wars. | ||
| Allow me to give a little golf clap to Martha McCallum right there because, CJ, you could see the little trick that he was doing. | ||
| In the video, they make it very clear: Donald Trump and by extension, Pete Hegseth have required you guys to do something illegal. | ||
| And then, when asked what those illegal things are, he's got nothing. | ||
| Nothing, nothing, nothing. | ||
| Great job, Martha. | ||
| Yeah, no, Martha absolutely did incredible in that segment. | ||
| And I'll say, too, it's like, again, you can't get anywhere with these people. | ||
| They accuse President Trump of being a racist. | ||
| You ask them how he's a racist. | ||
| They can't tell you. | ||
| They say that he's a king. | ||
| You ask how he's a king, even though he was Democratically elected. | ||
| They can't tell you. | ||
| And you ask them, how is he illegally performing his duties and obligations as commander-in-chief? | ||
| And they cannot tell you because there is no answer to be had. | ||
| And so, you know, I commend the president for doing all that he can to stop the flow of fentanyl into this country and ending these narco-terrorists' ambitions before they even can realize them. | ||
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| It's sort of what we were talking about before on these like 80-20 issues where if Trump just does the right thing, people will come along. | ||
| There's very few people. | ||
| Well, you're from Venezuela. | ||
| There's very few people that see a Venezuelan drug boat coming here. | ||
| And they're like, oh, I wish they had more due process. | ||
| We just don't want the drugs on our shores. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And actually, there are terrorists. | ||
| It's a terrorist organization. | ||
| It's a narco-state. | ||
| When we talk about what is going on in Venezuela, it's not just another government that we dislike or just another totally turned regime. | ||
| No, they're a narco-state. | ||
| They're attacking U.S. citizens constantly, not just through drugs, also criminal gangs. | ||
| Let's remember Trendoragua. | ||
| Let's remember, let's talk about Lake In Riley. | ||
| She was killed by a member of Trentoragua. | ||
| Do we want to stop those criminals from coming into the United States? | ||
| Do we want to stop those drugs? | ||
| Of course, we want to. | ||
| So, a few minutes ago, I was saying that the left is willing basically to embrace any idea if that idea opposes to what Trump is doing or saying. | ||
| Well, right now, it's the perfect example. | ||
| Right there, that's the perfect example. | ||
| They prefer to side with cartels, with narcos, with people who want to actually harm U.S. citizens, not to actually say, you know, Trump, you are doing a great job. | ||
| There is not that many drugs now coming from the Caribbean. | ||
| Thanks for what you are doing. | ||
| No, they, of course, prefer to say that this is an illegal act. | ||
| And by the way, he's in some way promoting an insurrection. | ||
| Let's remember that Trump is the president of the United States and he's able to do this type of operations. | ||
| Of course, they can sue as much as they want. | ||
| And then we have our courts and we have our system in place that can make a decision about what he's doing is legal or not. | ||
| That I think is perfectly legal, by the way, what he's doing, because we're talking about terrorist organizations, and the executive branch has the power to try to neutralize these terrorist organizations. | ||
| But the fact that they're promoting just so easily an insurrection is insane to me. | ||
| The fact that they're willing to side with a cartel is insane to me. | ||
| Around 20% of the cocaine that comes to the United States is from Venezuela. | ||
| Of course, we want to stop that. | ||
| And by the way, I'm going to say that. | ||
| You can neutralize those votes, please. | ||
| I'm so happy every time I see a new video. | ||
| They're like, oh, poor Venezuelans, poor Venezuelans. | ||
| Those are criminals. | ||
| I'm so happy. | ||
| So I want to end with this because, you know, one of the, we sort of talked about a certain amount of impatience that even people on the right are having with some of the Trump stuff. | ||
| And again, I just think you've got to 10 months in. | ||
| He has done so much. | ||
| Things don't just happen like that. | ||
| One thing that does seem to be happening a little more effectively lately is the deportations. | ||
| We played a video of Tom Holman earlier in the week. | ||
| 650,000 people have been kicked out of the country on top of the fact that we closed the border. | ||
| 30,000 children who were being trafficked have now at least returned to some either their original homes or they're in the process of that. | ||
| And then speaking of 30,000, listen to this. | ||
| 30,000 students in Charlotte were absent because of an ICE raid. | ||
| So think about this for a moment. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
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Class typically has 16 students in it. | |
| We had four. | ||
| District-wide, there are 145,030 students enrolled in Charlotte Mecklenburg schools. | ||
| On Monday, 30,399 were absent, 28,136 unexcused. | ||
| While CMS doesn't break down the numbers by ethnic origin, Gillespie, a multilingual teacher, did. | ||
| Children of parents from Angola, from Vietnam, but the students whose parents come from Latin American countries were the students we were missing. | ||
| So that was kind of the line, even among the ML students, is that we were missing Hispanics. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, CJ, there's something interesting going on here. | ||
| I mean, basically, the district, a third of their kids, did not show up to school when they knew that there were ICE raids coming in Charlotte, which we've been talking about for a week and a half or so. | ||
| That doesn't mean that every one of those kids is illegal because there's also social pressures. | ||
| And if your friends are like, I'm ditching school, maybe you will too. | ||
| But something ain't right over there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No. | ||
| Something certainly is not right. | ||
| But, you know, if Donald Trump working, he's such a gracious king because they were so against separating children from their families in the first term. | ||
| We're not separating them anymore. | ||
| We're sending them all back. | ||
| So that's a great thing to see. | ||
| God bless them for it and keep doing it. | ||
| Franklin, I mean, the idea that a third of a district's kids just decide not to show up, again, whether it's just like the activist class or it's like what everyone's doing, so it's a social contagion or whether 15,000 of those kids are illegal, like this is a freaking mess. | ||
| Yes, there is not such a thing as a pre-launch. | ||
| The fact that we have illegal migrants, you know, going to public institutions, receiving public education, receiving public health care is a disgrace. | ||
| It means that Americans are working really hard. | ||
| They are paying taxes. | ||
| And people who haven't paid any taxes or who recently came into the United States are receiving those benefits. | ||
| I'm an immigrant. | ||
| I think immigration is not a right. | ||
| It is a privilege. | ||
| This means that the United States, every time it welcomes a new migrant, that immigrant needs to be a positive gain. | ||
| Economically, socially, culturally, you need to assimilate. | ||
| You shouldn't go to the welfare state. | ||
| And the fact that some people would find this idea racist just means that they don't have facts. | ||
| They don't have reasoning to actually make a good argument, but they just want to insult so they can silent you. | ||
| So there needs to, we have to do a strong work in America to try to fight illegal immigration. | ||
| Illegal immigration is a problem for our country. | ||
| And it is a problem, by the way, that is also negative for legal immigrants. | ||
| Because when I came to the United States, I was seeking freedom. | ||
| I was seeking opportunities. | ||
| I came to the greatest country in the world. | ||
| I don't want the U.S. to become like Venezuela. | ||
| I don't want the people who destroyed Venezuela or any other or some other countries to come to the U.S. | ||
| And I think that's a very, very valuable case to make. | ||
| In order to protect America, if we believe in the American ideal, we should only welcome those who are going to be a positive gain. | ||
| So the fact that in some schools, 20, 30% of students could be illegal migrants, look, I don't blame the kids. | ||
| I blame their parents and I blame Democrats and I blame Joe Biden, of course. | ||
| But we need to do something to stop it and to change it because not country can survive if 20, 30% of its population are people who haven't assimilated to the culture, who the first thing they did to come here was actually to commit a crime, who are receiving benefits at the expense of American workers. | ||
| If this all ends with the three of us on a boat back to Venezuela, you'll know things have gone awry. | ||
| However, I'm feeling a little more bullish on the young conservatives after talking to both you. | ||
| Franklin CJ, great seeing you guys. | ||
| It's Friday, so no post-game show. | ||
| We'll see you on Monday. |
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