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dave rubin
Good morning, New York City.
Two weeks ago, you made history by electing the city's first ever socialist mayor.
But now the work begins.
Welcome to the transition.
On January 1st, you'll have a new mayor, and a new era for the city will begin.
Remember how a few months ago he told me he doesn't need money for anything?
Well, it turns out he does need money.
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And that's why I created the official Moron Zamboni t-shirt.
Because if you voted for this guy, you're a idiot.
None of the proceeds will go to New York City because I'm a pure capitalist.
It's all going in my pocket to do whatever the hell I want with it.
Actually, I think I'm going to buy the world's most expensive stamp.
It's the British Guiana 1C Magenta, which last sold for $9.3 million.
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unidentified
That free healthcare.
dave rubin
Are we working hard for you people or what?
Hello, I'm Dave Rubin.
This is the Rubin Report.
And before I do anything else, address that commercial or anything else, I want to tell you good people that today is November 20th, 2025.
Yesterday on the program, for the first time, I did not say the date.
And I queried, do you people know what day it is?
Is everything that you're doing on the calendar just related to if Dave Rubin tells you what day it is?
Do you have any idea what's going on?
And people were freaking out.
I looked in the comment section.
People don't know what day it is unless I tell them on this program.
So it is November 20th.
And although for a brief moment, we thought about not telling you the date on the show, it is very important that you know where you are and when you are and the rest of it.
It is November 20th, 2025.
And we are live streaming on Rumble and YouTube and locals and all that good stuff.
And yes, I hope you enjoyed that little commercial there.
It is official.
The moron Zamboni t-shirts are now for sale at DaveRubin.store.
And yes, I will be keeping all of the money.
That's right.
I mean, you know, sometimes I take these guys out to dinner or whatever it might be, but I am a capitalist.
I will be keeping the money.
And I will be thinking about buying that.
You know, you may have thought it was a joke, but the British Guiana 1C Magenta stamp, it is the world's most expensive stamp.
It just sold for $9.3 million.
I'd like that.
And I don't know how many, I don't know how the economics break down on the t-shirt, how many shirts we'd actually have to sell to make that happen, but I would love that thing.
We did do a little research before the show.
Apparently, the guy who owns it now is willing to sell it fractionally.
So he would, 80 people could get in on it.
And no, is it 80 people or 80,000 shares?
So what's 80,000?
9.3 million divided by 80,000?
You don't need much to get a little piece of this thing.
Yeah.
But at the end of the day, I would only want a fractional share if it was in my house.
I want that stamp.
Buy this shirt.
All right, we got a show for you, DaveRubin.store.
Like, at least I'm honest.
You know what I mean?
I don't want your money.
Everything's free.
Give me your fucking money.
All right, we're going to dive into a whole bunch.
You're just catching up on a bunch of stuff.
And then in the second half of the show, it's RubinReport.locals.com community Q ⁇ A. Let's start because obviously, the last couple of days, everything's been about this Epstein fiasco.
And as I've been pointing out for a couple of days, it's a little hard to know what the files actually are.
And I have a feeling in that this thing was basically voted by every member of Congress to release it except for one.
And when Congress is all for something, you must think something is rotten in Stinktown.
And I have a feeling a lot of it is going to be turned on the Democrats.
Well, already that is happening.
So we noted yesterday that Lady Eyelashes herself, Jasmine Crockett, went up and gave a speech ranting and raving about all of the Republicans who have taken money from Jeffrey Epstein.
Except it turned out it wasn't just a mistake that Lee Zeldon did.
It was a mistake that a whole bunch of them did.
She got the wrong Epstein.
Who would think that there are more than one person out there named Jeffrey Epstein?
Hot diggity dog.
Anyway, here is Lady Eyelashes on with Caitlin Collins over at CNN.
kaitlan collins
You mentioned Lee Zeldon there.
He's now a cabinet secretary.
He responded and said it was actually Dr. Jeffrey Epstein, who's a doctor that doesn't have any relation to the convicted sex trafficker.
Unfortunate for that doctor, but that is who due to a prior campaign of his.
Do you want to correct the record on the people that you're going to be doing?
unidentified
I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein.
Just so that people understand when you make a donation, your picture is not there.
And because they decided to spring this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that they didn't even try to go through the FEC.
So my team, what they did is they Googled.
And that is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein.
Unlike Republicans, I at least don't go out and just tell lies.
kaitlan collins
But people might see that and say, well, you're trying to make it sound like he took money from a registered sex offender.
jasmine crockett
No, but I literally did not know.
unidentified
When you search FEC files, and that's what I had my team to do, I texted them and I said, listen, we're going up.
They are saying that she took donations.
kaitlan collins
Right, but somebody might say, well, your team should have done the homework to make sure it wasn't the conviction.
jasmine crockett
Within 20 minutes, you could not find that out, not from just doing a quick search on FEC.
unidentified
So, number one, I made sure that I was clear that it was A. Jeffrey Epstein, but I never said that it was specifically that Jeffrey Epstein.
dave rubin
Lady, you are a bullshit artiste, but not a particularly good one.
Do you see what she's doing there?
Like, they lie.
What do I say all the time?
Like, they lie about everything, not 80%, not 90%.
Every single word that comes out of, oh, well, we were really rushed.
So that's why I said I was just a Jeffrey Epstein.
So we were just really, really rushed.
You know, I just we googled.
It's like, why not just say, you know what, we just rushed into something really stupid and I said something really stupid and it all turns out not to be true.
And by the way, it should be noted that when you're reading off Lee Zeldon and McCain Palin and Romney and a couple of these people taking money from a Jeffrey Epstein, not the Jeffrey Epstein, that in and even if it was the Jeffrey Epstein, that in and of itself doesn't prove anything as it relates to any of the nefarious shit with kids.
Politicians take all side, all kinds of money from all kinds of people.
You think they're vetting, well, this guy gave me $1,000.
You better find out everything about him.
That proves literally nothing, but I know that she is not the brightest bulb.
Okay.
Here's Crockett on Romney, Lee Zeldin, McCain Palin, and more.
jasmine crockett
Folks who also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein, as I had my team dig in very quickly, Mitt Romney, the NRCC, Lee Zeldon, George Bush, Wynn Red, McCain Palin, Rick Lazio.
I just want to be clear.
If this is the standard that we're going to make, just know we're going to expose it all.
And just know that the FEC filings are available for everybody to review.
dave rubin
My lady, I can talk like you again.
And you know what?
It's pretty obvious that you were trying to make the direct connection to Jeffrey Epstein, not a Jeffrey Epstein or the Jeffrey Epstein, but it was Jeffrey Epstein, the pedophile child trafficker that you were trying to connect to all those people, and it turned out to be the wrong one.
But I should put on my glasses too, because did you note that all the women behind him have been damn big glasses, which proved that they smart.
It's so fucking mind-numbingly ridiculous.
Anyway, here is an image from the Federal Election Commission showing that the donations to Zeldon, McCain, Romney, and the NRCC look to be a different Epstein.
It should be noted that Jeffrey Epstein, the pedophile guy, his middle name is Edward.
And then as if all of that mind-numbing drivel isn't enough, here is Jasmine Crockett accidentally saying the quiet part out loud, which is that they haven't been working on the propaganda side of this thing enough.
jasmine crockett
To someone who traveled this country as it relates to the election, I think that one of the things we've not done a really good job is of is communicating our wins, right?
So a lot of times Democrats, their goal, their job is to get in there, put their heads down and make sure that they do the work.
They haven't really been going around and doing the propaganda side of things.
unidentified
What?
dave rubin
Did she just say that they're supposed to be doing more propaganda?
Is that what she just said there?
Yes, because they're so good at doing the work.
What they're good at doing is saying we're doing the work.
They're always, I'm so tired because I've been doing the work.
That's what Michelle Obama said the other day.
I'm so tired because I've been doing the work.
I'm straightening my hair.
I'm oppressed.
And this lady, the Democrats are always doing the work.
If by work, you mean taking some people's money so you can give it to other people, then I guess that's what you mean by work.
But she's literally saying we just are not propagandizing enough.
And that really is inherently the problem because you guys are all propaganda and you still don't think you're doing enough.
Speaking of propaganda, the lady yesterday who was in the heat of the battle over all this Epstein stuff was Representative Stacey Plaskett because during a congressional hearing, she was texting Jeffrey Epstein.
Not a Jeffrey Epstein or a Jeffrey Epstein or any old Jeffrey Epstein, but Jeffrey Epstein, the pedophile child trafficker.
And he was literally telling her what to ask and how to respond to questions to then Donald Trump former lawyer.
What's his name?
Michael Cohen, right?
And here she is.
She's now been called out on it.
Here she tries to explain it.
stacey plaskett
But like many constituents, individuals get your phone number.
They text you about issues.
They speak with you.
I have spoken with him about issues that are relevant, things that are going on in the Virgin Islands and elsewhere around the country.
unidentified
Right, but on that day that we're talking about, you initiated the text exchange at 7.55 in the morning.
So why were you even texting with Epstein at the time?
He was a known sex offender then.
stacey plaskett
Sure.
You know, I explain to people, I've been a prosecutor for many years.
And there are a lot of people who have information that are not your friends that you use to get information for to get at the truth.
dave rubin
So why were you texting that pedophile at 7.30 a.m.?
Sure.
Like, nothing.
It's nothing.
Now, again, if he was her constituent, I think that much is true.
I don't have a problem with a congressperson or a senator or anyone else texting with their constituents.
It's nice when you have some actual real touch points with these people and some human communication with them.
But she's literally being guided during a hearing as to what questions to ask Donald Trump's ex-lawyer from the guy who turned out to be, in essence, the head of the big pedophile ring.
That seems a little problematic, as they say.
Here is Ayanna Presley.
She's one of the ladies in the Hamas caucus on BBC being asked why the Democrats were quiet for four years about the Epstein stuff when they were in charge, and she gets a little befuddled.
unidentified
Why wasn't there more clamor in the Biden administration to make sure that these files were released?
tezlyn figaro
Well, I can't speak to that.
unidentified
What I will say is Donald Trump ran on this on the release of the Epstein files.
But Congressman, I just want to jump in there because Jeffrey Epstein died in a jail cell in 2019.
Yes, Elaine Maxwell, who you referred to, was prosecuted, convicted in 2021.
But President Biden was in office.
Democrats were in office and could have pushed for this very argument to make sure that survivors were honored.
dave rubin
Sure.
Boy, lady, hey, I'm on television.
Don't ask me a real question.
Right, you guys get it.
And again, that's why I'm saying anything that is there that is evidence of someone who did something that is criminal, they need to pay the price for it and all of that stuff.
That's like low barred and nothing barely needs to be said.
But the fact that this has all been opened up after years of the Democrats not caring about it, it just feels like they've now opened up a Pandora's box.
And I think my gut feeling, it's just a feeling.
In fact, don't care about your feelings.
But my gut feeling is way more of this is going to come down on the Dems than on the Republicans.
Over on CNN, they do their little panel show with some crazy people who they let out of the institution for a little bit to go back and forth on things that they don't know what they're really talking about.
And here's someone saying that America was founded on child rape.
tezlyn figaro
I want to put something on the table that I thought what Representative Rocana said today, Abby, that I found very disturbing when he was talking about this is not what our country's founded on.
It actually is.
There's another president by the name of Thomas Jefferson who raped 14-year-old Sally Hemmings.
He was 40 years old.
So what we're talking about right now has been going on, not just the thousands of women you're talking about in high school.
It's been going on since the beginning of time with powerful men who have taken advantage of young girls and then tried to make it be a love story.
So no, I don't think innocent people should have their name disparaged.
What I'm trying to tell you is the files are being released.
So if you know if you're in the file and you didn't do anything wrong, then yeah, lawyer up because it's coming out and people need to just know what's going on.
Let me let Josh get a word.
dave rubin
I'm telling you, there's something weird going on with the black women in the glasses.
They're like, if you are black and you are a woman, we're going to put you in glasses if you want to be in government or TV.
Lady, it is true, actually, that Thomas Jefferson had relations with Sally Cummings.
And I've been to Monticello many times.
That's his home in Virginia.
And when you take the tour there, if it's an hour-long tour, about 40 minutes of the tour is about slavery.
They acknowledge that relationship.
It's way disproportionate on slavery than it is on anything else.
This man was an incredible inventor.
He was writing our founding documents.
He was literally writing documents that were going to free the slaves while he was acknowledging his own struggle with having slaves.
He was just a man of his time.
And I assure you, Thomas Jefferson lady is a hell of a lot better than you and better than me and better than most people these days.
These were incredible people who were writing aspirational documents so that the people behind them would live better lives than they lived.
And we pulled up a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
And you tell me who's better, Thomas Jefferson or that lady.
Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.
That's from notes on the state of Virginia.
And then he also wrote, the abolition of domestic slavery is the great object of desire in those colonies where it was unhappily introduced in their infant state.
So you really have to understand, did the founders have slaves?
Yes, George Washington had slaves.
And when George Washington died, he freed his half of the slaves, but Martha continued to have slaves.
Now, should we burn down the country because of that?
Is that what we should do?
Should we burn, should we knock down the Washington Memorial?
And again, these were just people of their time.
And we're just people of our time.
And I hate to think in 100 years what the very evolved progressives in 100 years from now will think about us.
Here's a bit more from Donald Trump.
This is a condensed version of the longer extended Truth Social post.
He wrote, Jeffrey Epstein, who was charged by the Trump Justice Department in 2019, not the Democrats, was a lifelong Democrat, donated thousands of dollars to Democrat politicians, and was deeply associated with many well-known Democrat figures, such as Bill Clinton, who traveled on his plane 26 times, Larry Summers, who just resigned from many boards, including Harvard, fleasbag political activist Reed Hoffman, minority leader Hakeem Jeffries, who asked Epstein to donate to his campaign after Epstein was charged, Democrat congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, and many more.
Perhaps the truth about these Democrats and their associations with Jeffrey Epstein will soon be revealed because I have just signed the bill to release the Epstein files.
At my direction, the Department of Justice has already turned over close to 50,000 pages of documents to Congress.
And do not forget, the Biden administration did not turn over a single file or page related to Democrat Epstein, nor did they ever speak about him.
The latest hoax will backfire on the Democrats, just as all of the rest have.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Make America great again.
So look, this is exactly what I said.
I mean, my sense is they're going to send whatever it is they have sent over now, whatever it is that remains not classified for what they're calling national security purposes, I think more of it will end up pointing on the Dems.
Again, though, the point is that this guy just giving money to politicians does not prove anything, right?
And by the way, just being on the plane does not prove anything.
Is it a little bizarre that Bill Clinton was on his plane 26 times, knowing there was so much weirdness going on there, knowing that Bill Clinton has some strange proclivities?
Probably a little something.
The other one who seems to be in hot water about this is Larry Summers.
And by the way, he, in that post, Trump also mentioned Reid Hoffman.
Reid Hoffman, if I'm not mistaken, Reid Hoffman is the Netflix guy, right?
Is that Reid Hoffman?
I always the LinkedIn guy who was funding all of the Gavin stuff during the recalls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he is one of the guys that was funding Gavin's re-election during the recall in California.
So he is a far-left progressive who was putting out the most awful ads on Larry Elder, implying he was a white supremacist and more.
But okay, that's a bit of a sidebar.
Here is Larry Summers now admitting that he's ashamed of his relationship with Epstein and that he's going to step away.
This is at a Harvard class just a day or two ago.
unidentified
Some of you will have seen my statement of regret expressing my shame with respect to what I did in communication with Mr. Epstein and that I've said that I'm going to step back from public activism quite part-time, but I think it's very important to fulfill my teaching obligations.
And so with your information, I'm going to go forward and talk about the material I've hated in class.
dave rubin
Let me just do a quick correction because I always get these two confused.
So there's Reed Hastings, who is from Netflix.
He's the one that I'm talking about as it pertains to Gavin Newsom and putting up all of these horrible, literally racist ads against Larry Elder.
That is not Reed Hoffman.
So I want to be very, very clear about that.
For some reason, I get those.
Well, they're both named Reed and H.
I guess it's not so bizarre that I get them crossed up.
Anyway, there you can see.
So Summers, it's like, I don't know what he did or didn't do.
He didn't really admit to anything there other than conversations with the guy.
But okay, so he's so something seems to be happening now.
Here is Scott Jennings pointing out, as I've said repeatedly, that more of this is going to end up on the Democrats' lap.
scott jennings
I think Democrats strategically may have never believed that Republicans would do this.
And they may be careful what they wish for here because we're already finding out that Epstein was in touch with Democrat members of Congress in 2019.
We know Larry Summers, the president of Harvard, Bill Clinton's Treasury Secretary, was soliciting dating advice from Epstein.
We know he was trying to fundraise with Hakeem Jeffries.
I think we're going to find out the Epstein political story has everything to do with Democrats and nothing to do with Donald Trump, and that could blow up in their face.
dave rubin
Right.
So we will see.
Again, why did you guys not care about it for four years under Biden when you could have released it at any point?
Then you sort of think you can pin this on Trump.
And what if you ding bats, perhaps this was a real 4D chess move by Trump, and you guys just released a bunch of stuff that's going to point on you.
I should make a second correction in only two minutes.
I think I said Sally Cummings.
It's Sally Hemmings.
And you can think of any other jokes as it relates to that last name.
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So now I want to jump.
We're just catching up on a few things that happened over the last couple of days.
This is super interesting.
So here is a Florida, he's currently a Florida Senate candidate, former January 6th prisoner who served four years and he was pardoned by Donald Trump.
His name is Jake Lang.
And he was one of the people that led a protest in Dearborn, Michigan over the last couple of days.
And, you know, we've talked a bit about Dearborn here.
It is largely, I would say, become an occupied city in the United States where they are publicly doing the Muslim call to prayer five times a day.
Like if you are not Muslim, you might not want to hear that and there should be noise ordinance laws.
And by the way, if you are Muslim, it doesn't mean you want to hear it.
They are constantly having Hamas rallies and Hezbollah rallies and you see flags for ISIS out on the streets and a whole bunch more.
This is the one that they were going to put Arabic on their police officers' uniforms and then after some pushback, they decided against it.
But there's something very, very strange going on in Dearborn.
So a group of people did go protest in Dearborn.
But first, here is Jake Lang at a Dearborn City Council meeting, and it got a little intense.
He's got to keep it down.
jake lang
In 1900, the world was 30% white.
Fast forward 125 years, we are down to 7%.
The Islamification of Europe is particularly aimed at the destruction of white people.
The Islamification of America is aiming to meet the same goal.
Our people, white Christian, European Western civilization, we built the arts.
We built the Coliseum.
We have ran the world into the industrial age.
And now, this people here, the Muslim community, is looking to drag us back.
They're looking to oppress women, oppress homosexuals.
They're looking to destroy everything that makes America great.
unidentified
President Trump, send ice.
Send ice into Dearborn.
jake lang
These people have overstayed their visas.
You come here and you marry four or five women and you outbreed us.
You change the laws.
You make all of our country look like the places that you fled from.
We don't want you here.
Respectfully, get the f ⁇ out of my country.
dave rubin
It was an interesting use of the word respectfully.
Okay, so first off, I want to give the guy broad, let's, before we get into the specifics of the issues, I want to broadly give the guy credit.
You know, going to a public forum and saying what you believe in, in this case, in a highly politically charged kind of toxic atmosphere where there's going to be false cries of racism and all that, that is tough.
Now, as to, you know, he mentions the white thing, which to me is a little bit different than the Christian thing because white is just a skin color.
It's just a skin color.
Christianity is a religion and a culture and a set of ideas.
To me, that's more important than a skin color.
I don't care what anyone's skin color is, whether you're, and by the way, there are black Muslims and there's white Muslims and there's black Christians and there's white Jews and Latino Jews and all of those things.
So the skin color to me is the least important part.
His broader point though, which absolutely is true, is that where Islam spreads, it is bad for Christians.
Put aside all of the other minorities that all end up gone or extinct or whatever, but it is bad for Christianity.
Ask the Coptic Christians of Egypt.
They used to be, there used to be tons of them.
Now there's basically none left.
Lebanon used to be a majority Christian nation.
People thought that it was going to basically be the France of the Middle East.
And now it has become basically an Islamic nation.
It's certainly not majority Christian anymore.
And then there are, you know, there's another 20s plus Muslim countries that are not, with the exception of some of the Gulf states, not very tolerable for anybody else, tolerant of anyone else.
And then when these people come to Europe and come to America and everything else, they try to import the same bad ideas that they purportedly were fleeing.
So that is what he was trying to illustrate.
And we will have to think about it.
Do we want to be Western Europe, where there basically will be no-go cities?
Where if you are, in this case, white, actually, and Christians are obviously Jewish, but even if you're a gay from Palestine, do you want to just wander around with your boyfriend through Dearborn and see how it goes?
You're not getting head.
I promise you, you might get beheaded.
It's a different thing.
Here's Wall Street Apes, who's an ex-commentator, and he wrote this regarding the video.
I thought this was quite interesting.
I verified these claims made during the Dearborn, Michigan City Council meeting.
Dearborn's now 55% Arab Muslim population has a huge amount of visa overstays and illegal entry.
These people shouldn't legally be here.
Unauthorized immigrants in Dearborn's Arab community include percentage of Dearborn's foreign-born population is basically 35 to 50%, roughly 16,000 out of 32,000 are unauthorized, which is illegal.
Visa overstays is about 40 to 50% of the unauthorized total.
We can just, all right, we don't have to read all the specifics here.
The amount of illegal entry, this includes border crossers for evading inspection from Mexico and Central America, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, right?
I don't want to drub you with all the numbers there.
But the point is, if you just look at what just happened in New York City, it was, I think, 62% of people who were legal immigrants but first generation voted for Moron Zamboni, right?
So now you have a place where tons of illegals are coming to too.
This is a huge problem.
But now I want to show you the biggest evidence of the problem because you might say, Dave, this feels racist or something, even though, again, a religion is not a race, but this feels racist or something like that.
The issue is the set of ideas.
Is Islam as a set of ideas conducive with Western values, as Jake pointed out?
Well, I want you to watch this.
We showed you this in September, but this is super interesting.
This man is a Christian preacher who is a resident of Dearborn, Michigan.
He went to a public hearing in that very same room we just showed you to express some of his concerns about what's going on in his city and listen to the response from the mayor.
unidentified
I mean, Hezbollah, you know, bombed the embassy in Beirut and including many Americans.
So I just feel it's quite inappropriate.
You're an Islamophobe.
And although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you're not welcome here.
dave rubin
You are an Islamophobe.
Now, again, I always say a phobia is an irrational fear.
If you are a woman or a non-Muslim or a Christian who wishes to practice their faith or you're a gay who's just not for Palestine, is it irrational to fear that set of ideas?
Of course not.
So the word Islamophobia is completely nonsense, nonsensical.
Interestingly, that man who he just, I mean, and the idea that the mayor would say, basically, get the fuck out of my town.
I don't give a shit about you.
And he thinks he's the good guy here.
It's rather extraordinary.
The man, by the way, his name is Edward Barham, and he's a local Christian minister.
And believe it or not, after that incident, he apologized to Mayor Abdullah Hamoud.
He apologized to him.
And from what I understand, he was doing it out of the Christian nature of apology.
But I will leave it up to you to decide whether you think he was the one that should have been apologizing or actually deserved an apology.
There's an ex-commentator named Sana Ibrahim, and she wrote something that I think is very applicable to what we're talking about here.
She wrote, I was born Muslim in a Muslim family under a Muslim government.
I will never move to a city where Muslims are the majority again.
Once they become the majority, they don't just live their beliefs.
They start imposing them on everyone around them.
People don't realize that expansion and dominance are not fringe ideas on Islam.
They are baked into the ideology.
Islam is not separable from politics or the state.
The Prophet Muhammad's life, the hadith that Muslims are told to model themselves after, includes around 80 wars.
Westerners are committing suicide by inviting this ideology into their institutions, their politics, their offices, and pretendering it's just another private belief system.
That's not how it works.
I don't think we're going to show you this video, but right before the show, I saw a video out of New York City last night at one of the biggest synagogues where there were mass protests of the Hamas Palestine crew chanting River to the Sea and Globalize the Intifada and everything else and doing it at a synagogue.
So as I said to you Jews and people think Jews are so smart, but I'm telling you, there's a lot of stupid Jews.
Whether you're a stupid Jew or a smart Jew, you should leave.
Smart Jews, they will come for you first.
Stupid Jews, you're still on the menu.
Here is my friend, and God, I wish he was still with us, Charlie Kirk, explaining that Islam is not conducive with American values.
charlie kirk
The question is, is macro-Islam compatible with Western values?
Macro.
Of course it's not.
There are three major reasons why.
Islam does not believe in freedom of speech.
Islam does not believe in freedom of religion.
And Islam does not believe in separation of mosque and state.
Those three things are antithetical to the West.
In a Muslim-majority country, you are not, most Muslim-majority countries, you cannot criticize the Prophet Muhammad.
In most Muslim-majority countries, you do not have the same robust freedom of religion protections.
And finally, whereas we in the West are very careful to try to intermix religion and state, they are commanded to actually go into the state and try to change the state to be more Islamic around the core pillars of Islam.
And the last thing I'll finally say is, I cannot see a single Western country that has become more Islamic and has become a better place to live that is happier or freer.
dave rubin
Right.
So again, I know this is uncomfortable to talk about, but that's Charlie at his best talking about something that is highly charged politically, but telling the truth.
And again, it is true.
If you want to live in a Western liberal democracy, and I mean the word liberal in this case in the best sense of the word liberal.
I don't mean liberal retarded.
I mean liberal in individual rights and agree to disagree sense of liberalism.
Then there is a set of ideas that is being imported into our country that now have taken serious hold, clearly in Dearborn, Michigan, but also in New York City.
And this is a problem.
And if that scales, the country's over.
And by the way, guys, we're only 249 years old.
Countries that have lasted a lot longer than us have failed.
So we're still in our nascent period here.
Speaking of New York City, Moron Zamboni, he wants your cash.
He put out another ad yesterday because it turns out free shit ain't free.
zohran mamdani
It's been two weeks since we won the election.
We've been pretty busy.
unidentified
Text to Democratic Socialist Zoran Momdani.
zohran mamdani
Too often, this is a time of just celebration as opposed to preparation.
We want to make it both.
A lot of these things are new.
But one of them is pretty old.
Fundraising.
But why are we fundraising?
Well, we have less than 50 days until we take office.
We have a lot to do.
We have to bet the 50,000 resumes we've received.
Thank you.
We have to keep paying our incredible team.
Thank you.
And we have to plan not just our inauguration, but our policy implementation.
Now, unlike the campaign, transitions do not get public matching funds from the city.
So that eight to one match, gone.
It's up to us to raise the money.
Usually campaigns take that as an opportunity to rely on wealthy donors, but that's not us.
You've already been incredible.
We've raised more than a million dollars in just two weeks.
Our average donation is around $77, and more than 12,000 of you have donated so far, which is much lower than the last administration's transition.
But we're still asking for your help because we need to raise $4 million in total.
So January 1st can be the day we start to deliver, not start to prepare.
I hope very soon not to have to ask you for money.
But until then, I'm asking.
dave rubin
It's so evil.
And if you can't see it, I do this once.
What do I do this?
Maybe twice a year.
If you can't see how evil this guy is, don't watch the show.
Find that other show.
Because I can't, every time we're going to play videos, this guy have to explain how obviously evil all of this is.
He ran on everything will be free.
None of it matters.
We're going to give you all this shit for free.
Less than two weeks later, there he is with his quick jump cuts and his fake smile, begging for money.
He needs $4 million so that they can vet people and blah, blah, blah.
Dude, if your ideas are so great, if you're so wonderful and you're leading New York City into utopia, are you telling me you can't get enough people to volunteer to figure this shit out?
You need $4 million in cash.
And by the way, on his inauguration night, they were charging $13 for a beer, a beer.
unidentified
It's all utter BS.
dave rubin
And I seriously hope that Donald Trump fully knows it.
Not just says it, but knows it, because they are meeting at the Oval Office tomorrow.
Listen to this from Donald Trump on Truth.
Communist mayor of New York, Zorhan Kwame Mondani, has asked for a meeting.
We have agreed that this meeting will take place at the Oval Office on Friday, November 21st.
Further details to follow.
Might I offer you a little gentle advice here, President Trump?
Zoran's going to come in and he's going to smile and he's going to be nice and he's going to be funny and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This is kind of one where you shouldn't give an inch.
You know what this guy is about.
You know what he is about to do to the city that you, Donald Trump, literally help build.
Don't do the thing after where it's like, okay, well, we're going to just, yeah, it's going to be great.
And I guess we will give him some money and we'll see.
Like, don't do it unless you want to help usher in the very ideas that are going to destroy New York City.
And by the way, putting aside the socialist part of it, the other part of it is that Zorhan is running saying that the NYPD will not be working with ICE.
Trump, closing the border and now having ICE cleaning things up, that has been your signature thing, right?
If your administration ended today, the thing that most people would say you did best, he closed the border and he got ICE on our streets to deal with deportations.
Well, Zorhan is completely against that.
He's saying NYPD will not work with ICE.
And well, here's, listen to Zorhan in his own words.
So Trump, just be freaking aware of this.
unidentified
The announcement is coming a day after Tom Holman said in an interview that ICE is going to be back in New York City, that agents are going to be conducting operations and raids.
Did you talk to the police commissioner about that?
The fact that she was tipped off to that one in Lower Manhattan a couple weeks ago.
And if that were to happen again, if she were tipped off, how would you want her to respond?
zohran mamdani
Well, what I've shared with the commissioner and I've also shared publicly is the fact that we can never go back to the days where Eric Adams would go on national television and open the door to the NYPD handling civil immigration enforcement.
That can never even be entertained.
People are living in fear.
And what we will ensure is the NYPD will be delivering public safety, not assisting ICE in their attempts to fulfill the administration's goal of creating the single largest deportation force in American history.
dave rubin
Okay, again, in the same country, this man should have never been mayor.
And I think there are arguments that he shouldn't have even been allowed to run mayor when he said he was going to abide by the laws of the International Criminal Court.
No American is bound by those laws.
Like, that seems pretty disqualifying to me.
Now saying he's not going to work with the federal administration as it is their job to get the illegals out.
Like that seems pretty at odds with, I don't know what he's going to swear on when he gets sworn in, I can guess.
But that seems kind of at odds with American values too.
But interestingly, despite all of this, here's ICE director Todd Lyons saying that not only are they going to keep going after the illegals themselves, they're also going to go after the employers who hire illegals.
unidentified
We're going to focus on the worst of the worst, but we're also going to make sure if you're here in the country legally, we're going to get you out.
And to the employers who employ and attract a lot of these illegal aliens that come in and steal American jobs, we're going to focus on those American companies as well.
dave rubin
All right, so that strikes me as a different level of where we are at right now because it's one thing to say we're just going after the people, but now going after the companies that are doing, wait a minute.
Actually, this does make me think.
Are you guys all legal?
Are you legal?
unidentified
I feel very happy to be here.
I have papers.
I'm here legally.
And very felice estarakia.
Gracias mira tengoto pamicita puerta superpelice.
Oh.
Papers, yes.
Thank you.
dave rubin
Okay, thank you.
unidentified
All right.
dave rubin
Well, that's good.
Okay, so that, and are you legal?
Connor, you're legal, right?
Good old white Connor.
Here's ABC covering a Michigan plumbing company that employed and harbored 250 illegals across four states.
darren cunningham
This is the business in question that has a metro Detroit couple in hot water with federal investigators.
unidentified
It's not just simply an immigration case that's charged.
darren cunningham
It's also money laundering.
And these are the federal documents investigators say detail the inner workings of the plumbing empire built by Moises Orduna Rios and his wife Raquel over a five-year period.
The Plymouth Township couple own Orduna Plumbing, manpower supply, and allegedly hired undocumented workers, took their passports and crammed them into tight living quarters.
These photos from the criminal complaint.
The federal complaint focuses on Rochester, New York, but Michigan, Ohio, and North Carolina are also mentioned as places the company operates.
According to the complaint, out of 253 workers, only six were in the U.S. legally and permitted to work.
The complaint claims the husband and wife generated $74 million in their plumbing business that was based out of Michigan.
dave rubin
You know, let me take a slightly different tack at this story because the illegals that are coming here, I'm not talking about the criminals, and I'm not talking about the sort of career criminals.
If you come here illegally, in essence, you are a criminal.
I know Democrats get very confused about that.
But the people that come here to make a better life that are law-abiding and that then end up paying taxes, which always sounds so strange, you're illegal and you're paying taxes and you can get a driver's license, like there's some weird stuff.
But for the people that come here and then take these jobs, and then for the people that hire them, if you go back over the last couple of years, in that the whole system was designed to let that happen, in some sense, you could argue it's not immoral, but it's slightly wrong to be punishing everybody.
Like the guy, like who is more at fault?
The factory owner who hired these people who were let in by our government or our government itself, right?
The blame goes a little bit everywhere, but I don't think you can just blame the guy who is like, oh, the government let in all of these people.
I can pay them less than I would have to pay someone else.
And well, then I'm going to go ahead and do it.
It doesn't make that guy great, but you can understand why he would do it.
Nonetheless, so again, the blame is still, the primary blame is on the people who open the borders.
But nonetheless, it is a violation of Title VIII of the U.S. Code.
I'll just read it briefly to you.
Title VIII, USC 1324 describes several crimes involving assisting, transporting, or harboring aliens entering the country illegally.
Harboring unauthorized aliens under subsection 132A, 1324A makes it a crime to harbor, shield, or conceal an unauthorized alien knowingly.
So I am not saying that the guy who owns the factory that hires 200 of these people because he can do it cheaper and then makes mad profit.
I am not saying he is a great guy and I'm not saying he didn't break the law.
That's the law right there.
But you also have to understand that this is the fault, the fault, the initial fault is the fault of the people who let them into the country.
This is interesting.
There's no audio on this, Connor.
You can start playing it.
This is a Charlotte, North Carolina job site that is now completely empty due to ICE raids.
So this is the interesting question.
Okay, so let's say these were all illegals that were doing this, right?
That were working at this place.
And let's say they were all completely law abiding outside of being illegal in and of themselves, in and of itself.
Somebody that was the foreman there or the owner of the company or whatever, the manager, he hired all these people because he knew I can pay them less, give them less benefits.
That will be cheaper on my bottom line.
I can then sell the place and make more of a profit.
Like that's basically how it works.
Now, again, do you blame him completely for doing it, even though he's breaking the law?
You blame him, yes, but you also understand the condition.
He was just working within the system the way it was, right?
Now, you might look at that and go, well, mate, Dave, this is proof that we need the illegals.
And there might be some argument around that, right?
Like there's some, you know, as they always say, we need these people to pick our crops.
Well, even if to whatever extent that is true, when you look at a job site like that, guess what, guys?
Tesla robots, the Optimus robot will be doing that soon enough.
Drones, instead of guys with huge cranes, will be lifting things hundreds of feet into the air.
So all of it is changing anyway.
So again, I'm really trying, I hope it's coming off clearly here.
I'm trying to show that there is a heart component to this.
Not all of these people, even who come here illegally, are evil or anything else.
However, right now, some eggs are going to be broken, right?
When we're going after the people who actually are the real, real bad guys, the drug dealers and the criminals and all that, some people who otherwise are decent people will be caught and up caught up in it because they are illegal.
But nobody that's legal is being caught up in it.
And that's what the Democrats are always lying about.
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CDH Free says, hey, Dave, do you think this push of the Epstein files by the left is really designed to push out the old guard, allowing the young gun socialists to take full control?
That, my friend, is a good question because it makes you think.
And could that be, could it be that as these files are released, and we're going to see all of these people took money from him, which as I illustrated earlier, just because you took money from someone doesn't mean you knew anything or did anything for that money or anything else.
Otherwise, every politician everywhere, they all take money from people.
They don't vet every person to know who you talk to and where the money came from and everything else.
However, could part of the push be that the radical base, and they're winning, they've taken over the Democrat Party already.
Look what just happened in New York and everything else, that they're like, how do we accelerate the downfall first of the Democrats, but then really everybody?
Like they want everybody old school, not just old.
They want anyone old school America.
They want them out.
So if you could put a little stank on everybody, whether it is deserved or just or not, that might be the way to do it.
So that is a great point.
I will keep that in mind as we cover this story going forward.
Love to laugh says, hey, Dave, are you still feeling all the awesome benefits from your recent knee procedure?
I am.
Joey, how was my finger roll last night?
Three hours in.
Pretty good, Dave.
Okay, it was pretty good.
I don't think you can hear me.
Yeah, I did the stem cell thing.
I blew out my knee 15 tears in my knee.
It was ACL and MCL and tendons and all that stuff.
15 tears.
Dr. Richie Striano, who, by the way, I know so many of you have gone to, he's texting me every day saying, I got this person from you and this person from you.
And he's helping all sorts of people.
And there's incredible physical benefits.
Whether it was me, he also did my shoulder.
I thought I was never going to play basketball again.
I mean, when that thing ripped, I heard pops and cracks.
It was like I stepped on a bag full of popcorn and glass.
I'm not kidding.
I've said it before.
A guy that wasn't even playing on the court with us, he started screaming because he was like, did you hear that?
It was terrible.
That was in February.
I had the stem cells injected on April 10th.
And by the end of May, I was playing again.
And now I'm not even wearing any brace.
I wear a little compression sleeve.
That's it.
So I'm probably playing better than I played 10 years ago.
And my shoulder, which I was really having trouble, I think it was mostly from like, you know, like carrying the kids all the time.
My shoulder, I could barely lift my arm.
And now my shoulder is completely fine.
So if you are having any kind of stuff, Google Dr. Richie Striano.
He is just an absolute all-star.
Changed my life.
Joey hurt his back a couple of weeks ago, had some slip discs.
He just did stem cells.
Like, I'm telling you guys, it's just magical.
And how cool that your body has the stuff in it you need to heal.
You just need to get access to it.
Lacey says, can you explain exactly what Israel has done that is so egregious to have lost support for the fight against Hamas since Hamas, the same Hamas that burned babies in ovens and dragged a mutilated woman's body through the streets?
I mean, you guys know, I've seen the 47-minute video that they've only, they keep on an Israeli military base.
That's like the worst of the worst.
Like I've seen the beheading, like at least one beheading, and the guy that's doing the beheading is smiling the entire time and laughing as he's beheading someone in slow motion, not even with a sharp, I mean, this is disgusting, but not even with like a cleaver.
It's just like a little knife like this.
Like that's not easy to do.
And trust me, that wasn't even the worst of it.
The things that they were doing to kids, it's unimaginable, unimaginable.
I mean, I think there's a couple of things going on here.
I think that Israel is usually more concerned with building things and surviving.
They are with PR.
I think the people that want to take them out are obsessed with that they will lie about anything and everything.
And that really is a problem.
How do you constantly not only try to survive and thrive in a tough part of the world, geographically tough and without a lot of natural resources, and just continue to build a thriving Western society while you have rockets coming in, while they've got some of your people underground, while they're strapping on suicide vests, while they're doing car rammings, while they're like all of those things, and you have people across the West that for whatever reason are obsessed with destroying you.
I mean, there is some ancient hatred stuff here for sure.
But I think more than anything else, it's kind of a little bit what's going on with the right right now, like a small portion of the right, I would say, which is that if you are jealous of people's success, you're probably going to do anything you can to take them out.
And that's why jealousy is just so wrong and evil.
Like it's so interesting too, because I think it has a little bit to do with how you're wired.
Like when I meet successful people or when I interview successful people, and I've interviewed billionaires, but it's not just, I don't even mean it financial success, people that are that are happy.
We just had, we're going to put it up, I think on New Year's Day.
We just had Arthur Brooks in here, who has written several books on happiness.
And he's an incredible human being.
And I've met him once before, but we sat down in the studio with him just a few days ago.
And my guess is he's got some money and some success and some fame or whatever.
Well, that's kind of obvious.
But after spending an hour with him, I was like, that's the type of person that I want to be.
You know what I mean?
And as opposed to looking at him and being jealous of something, I don't know what he has in terms of material stuff, more or less than me.
It doesn't matter.
But I think if you were rooted in jealousy, if you look at someone who either has more in a material sense or you think they're more successful than you in some sense or they've figured out something about life and you're jealous.
And I think that that's a lot of what this has come down to around Jews.
But you might, instead of jealousy, you might want to go, oh, is there something that they did as a society that has allowed them to survive for thousands of years at unimaginable odds?
You might want to say, instead of hating them, I might want to learn a little something about culture or tradition or religion or belief or ingenuity or something.
But the human condition is quite strange.
Brian says, is there any chance to have 12 ounce bottles or cans of Copal yet?
Maybe even flavor mixes.
So, you know, we release just as a repo sado.
And I am so thrilled.
Not only do we won a couple awards, we're like selling like crazy right now, which I think we have the image.
unidentified
We will.
dave rubin
20%, you guys, today or tomorrow is probably the last day you can get it before Thanksgiving because the shipping is going to get pretty nuts right now.
So it's 20% off no code needed at drinkcopal.com.
And we're just, the feedback has just been amazing and it's been great.
So we've been thinking about what the next thing is going to be.
I'm leaning towards a mez scal.
I'm kind of into Mezcals lately and there's something there.
But I do like the idea of doing something that's a little more like a simple, simple tequila soda.
Or even we were thinking about little glass bottles that would basically, in essence, have a shot.
You know, it's not really, it's a beautiful, elegant tequila.
So it's not really something you're doing shots with, although I guess we've done a couple shots around here.
But yeah, we're trying to figure out something that would be a little bit smaller than just like the bottle, something that's a little more accessible to just, you know, take to the beach or out in the pool or whatever it might be.
So hang tight on that.
And thank you for all you guys that have, you know, I just love getting the feedback.
It's so cool to create something.
You know, I created this that people seem to enjoy, but to create something that we put so much love into and it's been such a, it's just so out of my wheelhouse.
I'm going down to Mexico to create a tequila.
And that people, people who love tequila, I mean, when we were in Mexico and we brought it down there and we're talking to some of the best tequila somaliers in the world, people loved it, like really, really loved it.
So it's very exciting.
CP1951 says, how does the machine get stopped?
It's like whack-a-mole.
Ah, the machine.
How do you stop the machine?
I don't know.
There is a machine.
There is a game.
It's been played before us.
It'll be played after all of us.
And I think the best thing you can do is learn how to be a better player.
One of the, when I learned that really was when I sat down, we should play this clip on the show maybe next week.
When I sat down probably two years ago with Jared Kushner over at the local studio, and it was the first time, was it the first time we had met?
No, I think we had had, maybe we had met once or twice before, but it was the first time we did like an actual proper sit down.
And he talked about just everything as it relates to geopolitics and the Abraham Cords and everything they tried to do in the first administration.
It's a game.
And if you think about it as a game, these are characters in a game.
There is a script and that you can then learn how to play the game a little bit better, right?
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Learn how to play the game better so that you can be a player.
So I don't know that you can ever defeat it, but yeah, it is always.
Well, it's always why I'm like, you know, no one ever pays the price.
That's why I don't think they're going to be dragging all these people away in the Epstein thing.
It's like no one paid the price for COVID.
Think about all the horrific things that people in power did with COVID and nobody paid the price.
Maybe with the Epstein thing, there's going to be a sacrificial lamb or two.
Like they're just going to grab, because, you know, at some point, as Dr. Drew talked about, we taped actual friends yesterday.
It'll be up tomorrow.
Dr. Drew pointed out that, you know, when you have these sort of mass hysteria things, whether they're legitimate or not, but you have like kind of a mob mentality around something, at some point you need a release.
So that usually is where you're going to get the sacrificial lamb or you're going to get somebody that they can all turn their hate on.
So it seems like somebody will go down so that people will then move on, but we'll see.
Elizabeth says, do the boys like Ghostbusters cartoon or the live action movie?
So, you know, they're only three, but they really, really got into Ghostbusters.
I don't know exactly how it happened in August.
And I told you, we've been listening to Ghostbusters in this house like just ad nauseum.
They were ghosts for Halloween and we were Ghostbusters, which was totally fun.
And I've shown them a little bit of the Ghostbusters cartoon, but you know, even for a three-year-old, obviously a lot of it's going over their head and they don't need that much direct, it's not even that it's so violent, but you know what I mean?
Like they just don't need that much of that kind of high stimulation stuff.
We've shown them a little bit of the movie, really just the stay-puff marshmallow man.
But even that part, it's kind of scary because the rest of them are up top on the roof and you got the big, the MIG monster wolf out there and, you know, choose the form of the destroyer.
So that's not really for kids either.
Puff and rock is pretty good.
They got these little penguins.
They're on this little island.
They're doing a bunch of stuff.
So that you guys, you'd like it.
You would like it.
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Web Metal Work says, what was the first concert you ever went to?
These are the type of questions I like mixing up some of the political stuff with these types of things.
First concert I ever went to.
I'm guessing it was 1989.
I was about 12 years old.
I was at Sleep Away Camp somewhere in Pennsylvania.
And they took us to the Steve Miller band, which I don't even know that I knew anything about the Steve Miller band at the time, but that's such perfect, like late 70s, 80s.
Look at that.
That's kind of like all the journey albums.
I think maybe we have a picture of Steve Miller somewhere.
Book of Dreams, I guess.
No, we don't have it.
It's okay.
It doesn't matter.
But yeah, you know, Steve Miller band.
Like they're just classic kind of, it's more like late 70s, early 80s rock, just great stuff.
That was my first concert.
Second one was, this is going to really date me in some way.
unidentified
Debbie Gibson.
dave rubin
You guys don't even know Debbie Gibson, do you?
Can we, we're going to end the show with a little Debbie Gibson today.
All right, pull up a little Debbie Gibson.
She was, she was huge.
Brian says, Dave, do you have any atypical sides for Thanksgiving?
You know, I handle the turkey.
So we have all of David's family we host for Thanksgiving.
And I'm going to do the turkey as I've done the last four or five years on the big green egg.
So I'm smoking that turkey.
It is an adventure and it is well worth it.
If you nail it on the smoker, like you're going to get such a delicious, perfect crust on the outside that's just so freaking flavorful.
It's amazing.
And the turkey will be as moist as turkey can be.
But yes, we do the turkey.
And then I let them handle sides.
And I'm blessed to have a lot of people that are great chefs.
So the Eaton will be pretty good here.
And there will be a side of Copal.
And when we have 10, we have 10 seconds of Debbie Gibson.
Can we do it?
We can't do it.
It's copyright issues.
All right.
Later, guys, go check out.
There's Debbie Gibson.
She was it back then.
Out of the blue, deluxe edition.
Joe says, I'm very aware of the team's love of basketball and of Dave's knee issues.
That said, has the team ever considered competing at a local charity 5K or 10K race as a team-building exercise?
What do you say, guys?
That sounds like something.
I got a yes.
All right, we're going to do something.
We'll find something here, you know, Miami local-ish, and we'll let you know what we're doing.
And maybe some of you guys could get involved.
That would be fun.
Rap Sack says, Hey, Dave, can the Republicans temporarily get rid of the filibuster, get done what they need, or get done what they need to get done, and then put the filibuster back?
That's an interesting question.
And Joseph, actually, I wasn't sure of the answer.
I quickly, I usually quickly glance at the questions, but we weren't sure of the answer.
And Joseph did a little research.
So listen to this.
So your question, just reiterate the question because it's a good one.
Could the Republicans right now with the majority temporarily remove the filibuster so that they wouldn't need 60, do a whole bunch of stuff that they want to get done and then put it back?
So if the Democrats took power, the Democrats would basically not be able to do it without removing it again.
And the answer is this.
Procedurally, the answer is yes.
It's possible.
And here's how.
You vote with 50 plus, with 50 senators and the VP to reinterpret Senate rules, effectively killing the filibuster for certain kinds of legislation.
Then you pass other rule, another rules interpretation to restore the old standard.
But there is a catch, of course, because temporary rule changes would require that every GOP senator would have to agree to go nuclear, I mean, agree to do this.
And then Democrats at that point, once they took power again, they'd have every incentive to keep the rules changed.
So in essence, could you possibly do it?
Yeah.
But the second you do it and lose power, they can just reverse everything by the very same standard that you just put everything in.
So it is messy to say the least.
That's why I think there's just such an interesting argument around this, right?
There's just like the philosophic argument about what do you do when you are in power?
Do you do everything you can to right the ship to the best of your ability?
And with our with our team in power right now, I want them to do the best that they can.
But if they take this power, you got to be careful about the power.
It's that ring movie that Connor likes.
Once you get that ring, it's going to start freaking you out.
Next thing you know, you're a little troll-like fella staring at a ring, and a little hobbit's going to push you into a lava pit.
Thank you for watching.
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