Nov. 12, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| Previously on the Rubin. | ||
| Chuck Schumer, his days are over. | ||
| This is what Groundhog Day must feel like. | ||
| He just dug up more snakes than they could kill. | ||
| They want more morons and bones. | ||
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My NYPD will continue to not be of assistance to IceFi. | |
| I'm deeply sorry. | ||
| bang your best friend's wife. | ||
| Hello there. | ||
| I'm Dave Rubin. | ||
| This is the Rubin Report. | ||
| It is November 12th, 2025. | ||
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| Maybe we could have AI Dave do that portion for me going forward. | ||
| Why do I have to keep saying that over and over? | ||
| Can't he just sit right next to me and do the promo stuff? | ||
| That would be nice. | ||
| One other quick thing, since I have a bottle of Copal next to me, I did not necessarily want to do this, but we so want you guys to have Copal for your Thanksgiving meal. | ||
| You might have a progressive aunt, a cousin. | ||
| You might have a Karen, literally a Karen at the table. | ||
| Trust me, it will be better with some tequila. | ||
| And for the next week or so, Copal is 20% off. | ||
| You don't need to use a code or anything else. | ||
| Multiple award-winning reposado. | ||
| I promise you it's the best tequila you've ever had. | ||
| You can go to drinkcopal.com and it will make the holidays more tolerable if you are around progressives who are quite miserable and never season the food well. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You're not going to find a progressive that's also a good chef, like putting enough salt and pepper on that stuff. | ||
| Anyway, there is a lot going on in the world. | ||
| The government has reopened. | ||
| So hopefully everyone's doing okay here. | ||
| I'll put the tequila aside. | ||
| You shouldn't do a news program with the bottle of tequila right next to you there. | ||
| It's very unprofessional. | ||
| The government has reopened. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| There's a whole bunch going on with Trump fighting the media on some other fronts. | ||
| The BBC is in a big, a big hot mess, as they say. | ||
| And we will end today's show with some, well, maybe we can fix it stuff. | ||
| I think we're going to do all of that today. | ||
| But let us start with the ladies of the view who had the one sane Democrat on. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| John Fetterman, he did not show up in studio with the ladies. | ||
| He decided to wear his sweatshirt and do it via Zoom. | ||
| But here is noted racist left-wing lunatic who I think, if I'm not mistaken, you told me your husband's worth $450 million. | ||
| Was that Sonny Hostin? | ||
| My God, the woman, $2 million a year she's making over there. | ||
| Her husband's worth $450 million. | ||
| For some reason, I'm going to guess she did not give one single red cent to anyone who was missing their SNAP benefits for the last 40 days. | ||
| But here she is trying to shame John Fetterman for voting to open up the government, of which the Democrats got no concessions out of the Republicans. | ||
| So the whole freaking thing was pointless, other than the Democrats apparently starved 40 million people for a month, if you buy any of this. | ||
| And here she is trying to shame him, and he just was not having it. | ||
| It was a horrific mistake. | ||
| Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender. | ||
| Democrats had big wins last week, so you had momentum. | ||
| Why give in now? | ||
| Why bring a butter knife to a gunfight? | ||
| And I believe you are wrong. | ||
| I don't need, and I don't need a lecture. | ||
| I don't need a lecture from whether it's Bernie or the governor in California, because they are representing very deep blue, blue kinds of populations. | ||
| And a lot of those things, a lot of those things were part of the extreme. | ||
| And now remember, what really needs to win to win, the big win is involving my state and other states and those things. | ||
| And I would like to, rather than cite MTG, I'm going to cite one of the new governor-elects saying that my election is not a green light to continue this shutdown. | ||
| But the reality is 42 million Americans now not sure where their next meal is going to come from. | ||
| And because we vote like that, vote like that. | ||
| Or people that haven't been paid for five weeks now and that kinds of chaos. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I know I've said it many times, but I just love his hero arc story here. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| This guy who really was, he was a far lefty. | ||
| He really, really was. | ||
| He had all of the health problems and some brain issues, which apparently is a common theme amongst Democrats. | ||
| And that he is just becoming the last sane man, despite the way he dresses and some of the affect when he speaks. | ||
| It really is something else when they write the story about this guy. | ||
| But I love the aggressiveness there because he's not particularly aggressive in general, but he's basically like, I don't need a lecture from you, bitch. | ||
| I don't need a lecture from Bernie or Newsom or anyone else. | ||
| And this illustrates the point that I brought up the other day where Scott Jennings on CNN was saying, you know, we can't look too much into the election of last week. | ||
| Was it good for freedom and for America? | ||
| Obviously not. | ||
| But these were blue cities and blue states that in essence got bluer, although I'd like to say they got greener and redder because of Marxist Marxism and jihadism. | ||
| But putting that aside for a second, it was blue places that Democrats got elected to. | ||
| So Federman is right. | ||
| He's in a purple state, a state that does go both ways, as they say, right? | ||
| He's looking for a good time. | ||
| And in that, he is not going to placate to the far left base. | ||
| And what he's basically trying to say is, hey, we had this shutdown for 40 days. | ||
| You progressives who were screaming about people not being fed, which he seems to believe too. | ||
| Again, I didn't, anyone watching this, do you know anyone that starved in the last month? | ||
| And if they were starving, why is it that good progressives like Sonny Hostin, whose husband's worth $450 million, try to imagine how much money that is? | ||
| Why don't they do anything? | ||
| Did Bernie offer one of his houses to somebody that might have been out in the cold and hungry at the same time? | ||
| No, because they never do anything good themselves. | ||
| They scream about how you're supposed to be good while they take your stuff to do what they want with it. | ||
| They're not good. | ||
| Hint, hint, they're not very good. | ||
| So good for Federman. | ||
| What he's basically saying is, I am not going to pander to the far left part of my party. | ||
| I'm not going to play that. | ||
| I am a representative of the people of Pennsylvania. | ||
| So for whatever disagreements I still have with Fetterman on the policy side, and I'm sure there are a bunch, he's trying to make a play, make a play for a sane Democratic Party. | ||
| I wish him an awful lot of luck. | ||
| Stephen Miller, part of the Trump administration, of course, a man who does not mince words, uses an awful lot of adjectives on what he thinks the Democrats did with this shutdown. | ||
| It was worse than pointless, Larry. | ||
| It was cruel. | ||
| It was capricious. | ||
| It was dangerous. | ||
| It was radical. | ||
| It was extreme. | ||
| The Democrats shut down the government in a failed attempt to extort $1.5 trillion for their pet projects, including, as has long been documented in black and white, full funding for health care for legal aliens for several hundred billions of dollars. | ||
| They resulted in, as a consequence of their shutdown, massive flight delays for the American people, huge impacts on public safety, federal workers going without pay, people who are living paycheck to paycheck, not being able to make ends meet. | ||
| All right, again, in that I've been joking the entire time about like, okay, the government's shut down. | ||
| Does it really matter? | ||
| Yes, there were some flight delays. | ||
| Some of these people did not get paid for a while. | ||
| By the way, it's furloughed, right? | ||
| So they all are going to get back pay right now. | ||
| That's not to besmirch or demean any of the decent public servants who were subjected to this shutdown because of the Democrats. | ||
| But Miller is completely right. | ||
| The Republicans basically, in essence, what this was about, the Republicans were like, we are not going to give more money for your pet projects, particularly health care for illegals. | ||
| The Democrats, you know, hemmed and hawed for 40 days, claimed that the Republicans were starving people. | ||
| And now it's the very same Democrats. | ||
| It's the very same progressive crew, the AOCs, the Sonny Haustin types, the Bernie's, et cetera, who are pissed that guys like John Fetterman started to feed the people again. | ||
| If any of it was true, they lie about everything. | ||
| If any of it was true, that all these people were starving because they weren't getting SNAP benefits, then at the very least, you'd be like, Bernie would be up there today going, well, I'm glad the government opened because I did want those people fed, but I'm still going to fight for the things I fight for. | ||
| Instead, he's saying this is much like Sonny Austin. | ||
| This is a freaking disaster. | ||
| We caved and now we're going to take out Schumer and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And by the way, Schumer, as you know, wasn't even one of the senators who voted the other way. | ||
| He wanted cover. | ||
| So he voted to keep the government, or he didn't vote to keep the government open. | ||
| He voted to just, he didn't vote in essence, right? | ||
| It was only a couple other people that jumped across the aisle. | ||
| And it will offer him no cover, as we illustrated yesterday. | ||
| Let's jump back to the view. | ||
| Here is Alyssa, the pretend Republican who gets a cookie on Fridays, asking Federman if she thinks Schumer is the right leader for the Democrats. | ||
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Can I just follow up? | |
| Is leader Schumer, in your mind, the right leader for this moment for Democrats? | ||
| I'm saying that it's like, that's not really my concern right now. | ||
| It's not like a leadership situation. | ||
| It is we are living in the backlash of the election. | ||
| It's been effectively a year now. | ||
| America decided to put us in the minority. | ||
| And now in terms of leadership right now, you know, what defines leadership for me, I think that's order and logic and describing people exactly where we're at. | ||
| I mean, like, that might be a bigger problem with our party in some way that a committed Democrat from the most difficult and purple state in the country says, hey, you know, I'm trying to call balls and strikes in the middle of this chaos. | ||
| There's also something interesting about Federman's brain kind of coming back online, which is that, again, whether you agree with him or not, or whether he's a little fumbly or whatever, like he's thoughtful in his response, right? | ||
| He's like, we are the minority right now. | ||
| The election happened a year ago. | ||
| I'm not that concerned over who the leader is in essence, but he knows. | ||
| I mean, this is Schumer, Schumer, for somebody that's been in politics, how many years has Schumer, he's been a senator for what, 20 plus years, but how many years has he been in politics altogether? | ||
| I mean, this is a guy that probably has about a three-decade career in politics, something like that. | ||
| We'll get the exact number in just a second. | ||
| For somebody that's been in politics for so long, he just played this horribly because when push came to shove at the end, he's been in politics for 43 years. | ||
| Like, sorry, that's Joe Biden level. | ||
| You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. | ||
| Like, it's just too long, man. | ||
| But you would think that somebody who's been in such a position of power for so long would have played this a little bit better. | ||
| But all he was trying to do was control the crazies in his own party. | ||
| And again, then he didn't even vote to reopen the government, but they still hate him for it. | ||
| Don't take my word for it. | ||
| They'll listen to this CNN poll, Schumer versus AOC. | ||
| And this is like smash me in the head with a metal pan because we're all going to hell level. | ||
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There has been talks of a challenge to Schumer. | |
| What are you saying on that front? | ||
| Who looks like they're in place to do it? | ||
| Okay, so, you know, you see this opening slide here and you see, of course, that Chuck Schumer is underwater with Democrats nationally. | ||
| But of course, the ultimate way to get Chuck Schumer out of office is to beat him in New York State. | ||
| So how do New York State Democrats feel about Chuck Schumer? | ||
| And take a look here, the net favorable among New York Democrats. | ||
| Chuck Schumer is above water with the Democrats in his home state, but just by 16 points. | ||
| Look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez running way ahead. | ||
| If she decides to challenge Chuck Schumer in come 2028, she's got a real leg up on the competition. | ||
| I dare say at this point, she would be the favorite to beat him, which would be something that would just blow my mind. | ||
| I would blow your mind, bro. | ||
| You paying attention to what's been going on with the Democrats? | ||
| They are a bunch of radicals. | ||
| Schumer represents the old guard, somewhat moderate, not hating America Democrat. | ||
| That ain't working with the base, and it certainly ain't working in New York. | ||
| Do you know who New York City voted for to be the mayor just a week ago, right? | ||
| Like, do you know that? | ||
| If you know that, then it probably shouldn't blow your mind at all. | ||
| I would say to the good people of New York, many of whom are in the process of fleeing from New York City down here to Florida right now, if you end up with a mayor who is, you know, moron Zamboni, and then you end up with a senator who is AOC, and then God knows who else they'll bring in there, and especially, and Hochl, who is freaking horrible. | ||
| It could be worse than her. | ||
| Like, they are going down that path, and the great divide in the country is here. | ||
| So, Federman, like, find some friends, try to rebuild your party, but eventually, I just, it's kind of like RFK. | ||
| I don't think you will be a Democrat much more. | ||
| We'll have a bit more on the media analysis of the entire shutdown, including a man who cries often on TV, although he's not crying in this clip. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| So let's talk a little bit about the media coverage of the shutdown. | ||
| And obviously, the media, which is mostly part and parcel of the Democrat Party, you know, they always want to blame Republicans for everything. | ||
| Even though 100% the shutdown was on the Democrats, which is why when eight Democrats decided to go against the rest of the party, the government opened, right? | ||
| It was Democrats that had to move, not Republicans. | ||
| But okay. | ||
| Now I'll show you a video of Van Jones. | ||
| And Van Jones is one of these guys who's not wrong all the time, right? | ||
| He does get some things right, but usually he gets them right in slow motion. | ||
| So he's kind of not terrible, but he's got a little bit of that, what I always call that airlock thing, where it's like he never says the thing that's going on when it's happening. | ||
| And then when we've all said it for a year, then he kind of gets there. | ||
| But he is wrong about this. | ||
| Listen to his take on the shutdown and what Republicans care about or don't. | ||
| Look, right now, Democrats are going to kick each other and tear each other up and be mad at each other. | ||
| But when the smoke clears for most Americans, something has been proven here. | ||
| Republicans are just not that into Americans right now. | ||
| I mean, how much pain were the Republicans willing to let Americans suffer so they didn't have to? | ||
| They're just not that into America. | ||
| They were willing to let planes fall out the sky. | ||
| They're willing to let children starve. | ||
| They're willing to let federal workers get evicted from their houses rather than sit down and cut a deal on health care. | ||
| You know, Van, that would be good if any of that actually happened. | ||
| Can you guys check? | ||
| Maybe I missed it. | ||
| How many planes fell out of the sky in the last 40 days? | ||
| Did we get any numbers on? | ||
| I'm going to, you're going to all, I have three people on computers right now checking planes falling out of the sky. | ||
| We can check that. | ||
| How many children starved over the last 40 days? | ||
| Can we get some numbers on that? | ||
| And you can add the planes number up with the children starving number. | ||
| What was the third thing he said there? | ||
| The third thing. | ||
| Did anyone catch it? | ||
| I was working numbers there. | ||
| There was a third thing. | ||
| Can you give me the last 10 seconds of that clip so we can get it right? | ||
| Look, right now Democrats are going to kick each other. | ||
| They were willing to let planes fall out the sky. | ||
| They're willing to let children starve. | ||
| They're willing to let federal workers get evicted from their houses rather than sit down and cut a deal on health care. | ||
| Yeah, could you Google how many federal workers got kicked out of their house in the last 40 days? | ||
| I'm going to guess that if you add up, we got, oh, I have confirmation. | ||
| Zero planes fell out of the sky. | ||
| We have no evidence that any children starved. | ||
| But again, Van, if you knew of starving children, I'm sure you've got some cash too. | ||
| You could have put a little money aside to feed some of them. | ||
| And I don't know of any. | ||
| Yes, is it possible that a federal worker who didn't get paid for a month struggled? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And again, the politicians shouldn't get paid while they're voting for a shutdown. | ||
| But that's also not, that doesn't mean that the Republicans don't care about you. | ||
| What actually this means is that the Republicans care about the American people, which is why the Republicans did not want to fund a government that was going to give health care to illegals who are not American citizens. | ||
| Let's package that up nicely. | ||
| Maybe we can put it on a, do we have CDs still or a DVD? | ||
| We could send a nice package to Van Jones, wherever he lives, and I'll send that to him and maybe he can learn a little something. | ||
| Speaking of people that should learn a little something over at CNN, Abby Phillip, you know this woman, not a lot going on behind her brain, but she went on behind her eyes. | ||
| There's not a lot happening in her brain, behind her eyes. | ||
| She went on, Joy Reed, I guess, has a podcast, crazy old blonde Joy Reed's got a podcast now. | ||
| Abby went on the show to explain that her job is to tell conservatives what the truth is. | ||
| Conservatives are living in a completely different information world than liberals. | ||
| And breaking that down needs to be done. | ||
| Because when you don't ever even hear the facts, it's hard to even know that you're wrong. | ||
| And that happens a lot. | ||
| I mean, half my job sometimes is knowing what the latest conspiracy is so that if it comes up, I'm ready to address it. | ||
| Well, you're not particularly good at that half of your job or the other half of your job. | ||
| I'm not totally sure what your job is other than to sit there and have Scott Jennings teach people what the truth is. | ||
| The implication, she's saying the quiet part out loud because basically what she's saying is it's my job to break through the conservative bubble. | ||
| But you are the liberal bubble, lady. | ||
| That's why we play Scott Jennings clips all the time, right? | ||
| We play those clips because you create the conditions of lies and nonsense and narrative that the left and the Democrat put out there, right? | ||
| Like the box of that. | ||
| And then you do, to your credit, although it's not you, it's obviously the network. | ||
| You put Scott Jennings on there to break through that nonsense. | ||
| How do you not see that? | ||
| But of course, it's not just you guys at CNN. | ||
| This is a worldwide phenomenon. | ||
| And let's jump across the pond to the UK because the BBC is in a ton of trouble right now. | ||
| Listen to this from the Daily Wire. | ||
| According to the BBC, President Donald Trump has sent a letter to the news outlet threatening legal action after the network aired an edited clip of Trump's January 6th, 2021 remarks in a documentary that was presented out of context. | ||
| BBC Director General Tim Davey and CEO of News Deborah Turnes have both stepped down following revelations that the documentary misled viewers by deceptively editing Trump's speech. | ||
| According to the Telegraph, a leaked internal BBC memo revealed that the program spliced together separate portions of Trump's remarks, making it appear he explicitly encouraged chaos at the Capitol. | ||
| The memo also reportedly warned of systemic problems of bias within the BBC's coverage, including its Arabic services reporting on the Israel-Gaza conflict. | ||
| The fallout was immediate. | ||
| Davy, who had served as Director General for five years, admitted, there have been some mistakes made, and as director general, I have to take ultimate responsibility. | ||
| Turness, who ran the BBC's News and Current Affairs Division, followed suit, saying that the documentary controversy had reached the stage where it was causing damage to the BBC. | ||
| The buck stops with me. | ||
| BBC chair Samir Shah has since apologized, admitting the broadcast represented an error of judgment. | ||
| But critics argue the damage is already done, pointing to years of mounting accusations that the BBC's news division has drifted leftward. | ||
| Now, before we show you the clip, we're going to show you the actual way they deceptively edited it, and then we're going to show you what Trump actually said. | ||
| Before we show you that, does this surprise anybody? | ||
| When you heard that story, if you're just hearing it now for the first time, are you shocked that the BBC was lying about Donald Trump and this has all been going on for years? | ||
| Very fine people on both sides, Hunter Biden laptop, et cetera. | ||
| Does any of this surprise you? | ||
| Of course, it doesn't surprise you, right? | ||
| But it does, I suppose, surprise a certain set of people that are not really paying attention to what's going on or are doing the airlock thing that Van Jones that I mentioned Van Jones does, which is they all get everything wrong or they lie about it for a certain period of time. | ||
| And then eventually, when it cannot be lied about anymore, when the pressure has just become too much to bear, the truth comes out on the other side. | ||
| The fact that some people are stepping down at the BBC is, I suppose, a nice piece of this, but it's only because of a Trump lawsuit. | ||
| Now take a look at how they deceptively edited Trump's January 6th speech for this documentary. | ||
| We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you. | ||
| And we fight. | ||
| We fight like hell. | ||
| We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. | ||
| Isn't that something like just that line right there? | ||
| By the way, he also repeatedly said peacefully, we're going to peacefully do it. | ||
| But cheer on our brave senators and congresspeople. | ||
| So if they do a, that was like a little bit of trickery right there. | ||
| It's just one line. | ||
| But of course, we all know what editing one line does, right? | ||
| What is editing one line when it comes to very fine people on both sides do? | ||
| I'm not talking about the white supremacists or the neo-Nazis who should be condemned completely. | ||
| You take one line out and it can do an awful lot. | ||
| And the fact that finally, after years and years of lying about so much, the BBC is paying the price is quite good. | ||
| Here is video of CEO of the BBC, well, now former CEO of the BBC, Barbara Terness, saying why she stepped down. | ||
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I would like to say it has been the privilege of my career to serve as the CEO of BBC News and to work with our brilliant team of journalists. | |
| I stepped down over the weekend because the buck stops with me. | ||
| But I'd like to make one thing very clear: BBC News is not institutionally biased. | ||
| That's why it's the world's most trusted news provider. | ||
| Why did you fail to deal with the mistakes that were made? | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I think I said her name is Barbara. | ||
| Her name is Deborah. | ||
| Put that aside for a moment. | ||
| Lady, the reason you're stepping down is because they are institutionally biased. | ||
| You were the CEO. | ||
| They're making a documentary, right? | ||
| Do you think the CEO is writing the script and doing everything as it pertains to producers and how do you put together a package of a documentary and everything else? | ||
| Or is it that there are producers and associate producers, there are directors, there are editors and da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| And obviously, all of these people, or a huge bulk of these people, knew that they were creating propaganda, not something that was true. | ||
| You're taking the fall for it, but this is what the very definition of something that was systemically broken would be. | ||
| Something that produces propaganda when its mission is supposed to be reporting the truth. | ||
| So the fact that you are stepping down, I suppose, is nice, right? | ||
| Because you're not very good at your job. | ||
| But don't tell me the place isn't systemically broken because it obviously is. | ||
| Speaking of systemically broken, Brian Stelter, a man who was fired from CNN for being an awful journalist, then went on to teach for one year journalism at Harvard and then was brought back to CNN. | ||
| Here he is downplaying how what we just showed you actually is. | ||
| Now, here comes President Trump threatening a lawsuit. | ||
| And to a lot of people, this looks like an attempt at a shakedown. | ||
| We've seen him settle with other media companies. | ||
| Is that what he's trying to do at the BBC? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| But he's claiming he's been really severely harmed, even though, again, nobody noticed this editing problem last year when the documentary actually aired. | ||
| So what I'm hearing today is a lot of hyperbole, over-the-top rhetoric, claims of election interference, even though, again, this wasn't observed at the time. | ||
| All right, first off, Stelter, you clown, who, by the way, is he starting to go into blackface over there? | ||
| Like that, what is going on with that tan over there? | ||
| Like, dude, you got to just, okay, fine, that's one thing. | ||
| Do I like the idea that the president of the United States or that any public figure, and there's been a few more lawsuits lately, has to sue places of quote-unquote journalism because they will not do their job. | ||
| Is it possible that there will be a freezing of reporting and even of commentary if people feel they can just start suing people willy-nilly? | ||
| That is a problem for sure, right? | ||
| And that's why, although we have the First Amendment in the United States, we have very, very strict and stringent laws around libel and slander because you want, you basically want the maximum amount of freedom for people to express themselves, even when they're saying stupid things, even when they're lying and manipulating the truth and all of those things. | ||
| You do want that. | ||
| But do these places, particularly things that are funded by the government, as BBC is in this place, in this case, do they have a responsibility to tell the truth? | ||
| And if they will not do it time and time again, if the only way to get them to approximate that is through the threat of a lawsuit, then it is what it is, I would say. | ||
| Why are you defending this, Stelter? | ||
| Well, the reason you're defending it is because you're on CNN. | ||
| You are the equivalent of the BBC here in America. | ||
| I know you guys aren't officially state-sponsored, but it'd basically be the same thing. | ||
| Listen to this tweet from Stelter. | ||
| The BBC is feeling the Trump squeeze. | ||
| It's a move we have seen several times this year against vulnerable media companies. | ||
| All right, well, that's sort of interesting. | ||
| And then he writes a little piece there. | ||
| What's interesting about that, so it's the Trump squeeze. | ||
| Now, would Trump be suing these people if they weren't lying? | ||
| Well, maybe he would be, but the lawsuits would be thrown out very quickly, right? | ||
| If he was just making shit up. | ||
| But he's not, and you guys are. | ||
| Listen to Stelter talking about how this is in his little in-between CNN gigs, talking about the biggest story he covered at CNN. | ||
| At CNN, in my years at CNN, it became clear to me that the biggest story on my beat, the biggest story on the media beat, was that Fox was having this corrosive impact on the country. | ||
| That Fox News, the beating heart of the GOP, was stoking fear, misinforming millions of people, and propping up Donald Trump. | ||
| I felt like it wasn't being fully appreciated. | ||
| It wasn't being fully documented. | ||
| It wasn't being sufficiently covered. | ||
| Fox was the dominant force on the right-wing media and helping Trump. | ||
| And Fox fans deserved better. | ||
| They deserved a reliable source. | ||
| He even laughs sort of when he says reliable source because he knows he's not a reliable source. | ||
| But okay, you're telling me, Brian Selter, that for your duration at CNN, the biggest story was Fox News lying. | ||
| Did Fox News lie about the Russia-Russia-Russia hooks? | ||
| Did Fox News lie about the Hunter Biden laptop? | ||
| Did Fox News lie about Joe Biden's mental acuity? | ||
| Did Fox News lie about Jesse Smollett being lynched? | ||
| Did Fox News lie about COVID? | ||
| Did Fox News lie about the Covington kids? | ||
| Did Fox News lie about very fine people? | ||
| By the way, they might have lied about some of those things, but you guys lied about all of those things. | ||
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| You guys know I'm usually much more interested in media framing around things than the specific things. | ||
| Like, yeah, we can argue about who voted for this and who voted for that and how many Republicans did this and who closed the government and all those things are important and all that stuff. | ||
| But I'm always much more interested in kind of the meta narratives around things and how people look at things and how the media lies about things. | ||
| That is what interests me because that, because without understanding that, then you'll never get to the truth, right? | ||
| If we're doing the airlock thing again, if you have like the truth, right? | ||
| Here's the truth. | ||
| It's coming, it's coming. | ||
| Then they have their like bullshit machine and then it goes through that and then no one gets the truth anymore, right? | ||
| So I want to jump back a couple years because this is seriously interesting and it shows a level of journalistic integrity here. | ||
| I want to jump back three years ago. | ||
| So this is February of 2022, a little over three years ago now. | ||
| And this is Novik Djokovic, the world's greatest tennis player, on how he was not allowed to play tennis because he would not take the COVID vaccs. | ||
| Trust me, you'll see where we're going with this. | ||
| I understand the consequences of my decision. | ||
| And one of the consequences of my decision was not going to Australia. | ||
| And I was prepared not to go. | ||
| And I understand that not being vaccinated today, I'm unable to travel to most of the tournaments at the moment. | ||
| And that's the price you're willing to pay? | ||
| That is the price that I'm willing to pay. | ||
| Ultimately, are you prepared to forego the chance to be the greatest player that ever picked up a racket, statistically? | ||
| Because you feel so strongly about this channel? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Okay, my guess is you've seen that clip before, it's worth illustrating. | ||
| Again, you'll see why in just a second. | ||
| But just at the human level, before we get into the political level or lies around COVID or media or anything else, like a man who's at the peak of physical fitness, the top of his game, who is just saying, I'm here I am, and I'm not going to move. | ||
| I'm going to do what I think is right. | ||
| And then, of course, he turned out to be right. | ||
| And the world came way more to his position than it came to the reporter's position. | ||
| Let's show you a little bit more of that. | ||
| But as things stand, if this means that you miss the French Open, is that a price you'd be willing to pay? | ||
| Yes, that is the price that I'm willing to pay. | ||
| And if it means that you miss Wimbledon this year, again, that's a price you're willing to pay. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Why, Novak? | ||
| Why? | ||
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| Because the principles of decision-making on my body are more important than any title or anything else. | ||
| I'm trying to be in tune with my body as much as I possibly can. | ||
| It's even great watching it years later because it's like the crew of people who said my body, my choice, wanted to force other people to be injected with things. | ||
| Now, we're getting close to why I'm showing you that. | ||
| Now, I want to read you a tweet from January of 22 from Piers Morgan. | ||
| Breaking COVID rule cheat, immigration form liar, and anti-vaxxer icon, Novik Djokovic, loses final appeal against deportation and will be thrown out of Australia without being able to compete in the Australian Open. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Now I would like to flash forward to this week. | ||
| And Piers sat down with Novik once again. | ||
| I'm going to start by making an apology. | ||
| And it's for this, is I was very censorious about you over the COVID scandal that you got caught up in. | ||
| I was actually quite censorious about a lot of people at the time. | ||
| And I've since apologized to some people for being too tough on them. | ||
| But I was too censorious. | ||
| And when more information emerged about your situation, the fact you'd had COVID several weeks before you went to Australia, the fact that you hadn't actually done anything wrong on the form filling, the fact that in the end it became a political decision to throw you out based on likely public anger if they didn't take action. | ||
| Okay, now I think you can see where I'm starting to go here. | ||
| So there's Piers, a guy who went all in on the craziness. | ||
| And Piers, by the way, had dozens of tweets that were wrong about COVID and everything else. | ||
| I should mention right now that I had Piers here in studio, three days ago. | ||
| We're going to be airing it this Saturday. | ||
| And Piers and I agree on some stuff and disagree on some stuff. | ||
| And we got into it about some of the mistakes that he's made in the past. | ||
| But the reason I'm showing you that is that is what a journalist or someone with some integrity does. | ||
| When they are proven to be wrong, particularly without a question, not only can you correct yourself, which Piers has done on the COVID thing, he has said I was wrong and I shouldn't have done this and I apologize, but then to sit with someone and look them in the eye and apologize to them. | ||
| We don't do that enough. | ||
| We do not do that enough. | ||
| And Piers did it right there. | ||
| I want to show you one other clip of Djokovic's response to Piers. | ||
| I appreciate that very much. | ||
| Honesty, thank you so much. | ||
| It was difficult times and state of emergency globally. | ||
| I understand we've been through hell globally, all of us on this planet. | ||
| And the only thing I would add, not to really dig deeper into this whole situation on the COVID and vaccination, is that I was never a proponent of anti-vax or pro-vax. | ||
| That was always freedom of choice. | ||
| And that was misinterpreted. | ||
| I was proclaimed to be one side or the other side or so forth. | ||
| It's either black or white. | ||
| And I said, you know, it doesn't need to be that way. | ||
| That's a really good clip, guys. | ||
| And it's good all around. | ||
| It's good that you have somebody making a mega culpa, right? | ||
| Nobody ever does it. | ||
| Nobody ever does it. | ||
| Piers is doing it right there to the guy's face. | ||
| And then you have Djokovic, who's even going further and just saying, I just want to clarify something here. | ||
| He was never an anti-vaxxer, right? | ||
| He was just saying, me, me, I am a healthy person. | ||
| I had COVID. | ||
| I have immunity now, post-COVID, right? | ||
| I have the antibodies. | ||
| I'm not telling anyone what to do. | ||
| So he's still standing his ground and clarifying something, which is great. | ||
| And I think it's worth showing you this. | ||
| It's about 35 seconds or so. | ||
| We've seen it before, but it's a compilation of all of, or not all of, because that would take us literally all day. | ||
| Many of the people who lied us into all of this nonsense so that someone like Piers Morgan would have tweeted what he tweeted and now have to apologize for it. | ||
| And then during 2021, we should be able to manufacture a lot of vaccines. | ||
| And that vaccine, our key goal is to stop the transmission. | ||
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Get vaccinated. | |
| It's not only good for you and your family and your community, it will have a very important impact on the dynamics of the outbreak in our country. | ||
| Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. | ||
| A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. | ||
| The virus does not infect them. | ||
| The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. | ||
| It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. | ||
| The vaccines will get us to the end of this. | ||
| I really want to give Piers some credit here. | ||
| And it's not just because I had him in here a couple of days ago. | ||
| And I enjoyed a conversation where we really did have some push and pull. | ||
| Again, you'll see that on Saturday. | ||
| Why is it that he's able to apologize for what he did and said during that crazy time? | ||
| What is it about him as a human being that allows him to do that while none of those people have apologized? | ||
| Did Rachel Maddow ever apologize for what she said right there? | ||
| Which again, which as I always say was either the most generous version you could say is that she had no idea what she was talking about and she was just reading a script, or she, but that's probably not exactly true, or she was a liar, or it was because it was serving her interests or serving her corporate masters for 20 million bucks a year. | ||
| A lot of people would say an awful lot of crazy stuff. | ||
| But what it gets to is that there is that mainstream media airlock that every now and again gets busted through. | ||
| So I love showing you this clip. | ||
| It's probably been a couple months since we showed it to you last time, but I think this is one of the best clips from real time with Bill Maher in the last like five years. | ||
| This is Russell Brand on the nonsense over at MSNBC. | ||
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Russell, darling, the moment that you give me a specific example, an actual example. | |
| I've thought about bias. | ||
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It's a false conversation because you don't actually know anything about any of these organizations you're talking about. | |
| You've been on MSNBC once. | ||
| Big f ⁇ ing deal. | ||
| My darling, it was more than enough. | ||
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You can't because it was such a single, you have a single actual fact. | |
| Do you want an example? | ||
| Do you want an example? | ||
| The ludicrous, outrageous criticisms of Joe Rogan around Ivermectin, deliberately referring to it as a horse medicine when they know it's an effective medicine. | ||
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That's why I'm talking about it. | |
| I'm going to ask John Maddow turning up on the TV saying, if you take this vaccine, you're not going to get it when it has been clinically tried for transmission. | ||
| And you have to listen. | ||
| Do you think you can improve America by determinedly and avowedly condemning Fox News without acknowledging that you're participating in the same game? | ||
| So we're showing you the shorter version of it, but you know, the longer one where he's like, and I thought I was on Joe Scarborough and there was nobody named Joe and it was, it wasn't the morning. | ||
| Meanwhile, that guy, John Howell, and then we played that clip a couple times, he blocked me on Twitter. | ||
| What can you do? | ||
| I want to end this segment by showing you this because then yesterday, oh no, not yesterday, two or three days ago when I had Piers in studio from here, he went over to PBD's studio, Patrick Beth David's studio in Port Lauderdale. | ||
| And they started discussing this other thing that's been happening on the right lately, which is that many people would argue, and I would sit in this camp, that one of the things that Tucker Carlson's been doing lately is he brings on guests to sort of launder their lies. | ||
| He never really tells you exactly what he thinks, but you can tell by the way he interviews somebody that he is basically in agreement with them. | ||
| Or in the rare instances, he brings someone on that he doesn't agree with, like Ted Cruz, he goes after them. | ||
| The big thing that blew up last week was that he had self-affirmed Nazi, a guy who said he is on Team Hitler, Nick Fuentes, who's really just an internet troll, but also has noxious ideas about Jews and black people and Indians and a whole bunch more. | ||
| Tucker had him on, and he basically glazed him for an hour so that Piers, who is an interviewer, was interviewed by Patrick Beck David, who is also an interviewer, and they got into how it is that one should interview. | ||
| My criticism was not that he platformed. | ||
| And Tucker is right. | ||
| He can platform anybody likes. | ||
| It's one of the biggest platforms in the world. | ||
| My only criticism was, why didn't you give him as hard a time as he gave me? | ||
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I think that's fair. | |
| I think that's fair. | ||
| Yeah, that is fair. | ||
| And by the way, I'm going to be on Piers one-on-one today to talk about just that. | ||
| And everybody, look, me as an interviewer, I have every right to interview as I wish. | ||
| Tucker has every interview, every right to do it how he wants. | ||
| Peers, PBD, everybody does. | ||
| But I would say, and this is really what the question is, and this is what nobody, it seems, in this space wants to address. | ||
| Maybe Piers does a little bit. | ||
| Do we have any responsibility to the truth? | ||
| Like, we're all doing our own thing. | ||
| I'm beholden to myself. | ||
| It's my company. | ||
| I'm the boss. | ||
| I can do what I want. | ||
| I don't know if Piers has a boss now. | ||
| I think he's largely independent, but he still works with like all of these people. | ||
| PBD owns his own thing. | ||
| Tucker, I assume, owns his own thing. | ||
| Do any of us have a responsibility to the truth as the mainstream media fails and we are now ascended? | ||
| I think we do. | ||
| I believe it is incumbent on me as a human being. | ||
| Now, maybe some people don't, but where does that leave us? | ||
| That is the question. | ||
| Let's put that down for a moment. | ||
| We're going to show you a video of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I haven't shown anything of her in a while in just a second. | ||
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| So let's dive back into left-right stuff. | ||
| Hillary Clinton, you may remember her. | ||
| She once said that her husband, getting a blowjob from an intern while sitting on the chair at the Oval Office, also while sodomizing her with a cigar while on the phone with Trent Lott, was a right-wing conspiracy. | ||
| Turned out to be true. | ||
| She also ran for president and a couple other things. | ||
| Here she is telling her audience that the danger these days is much more from that scary far right than it is from the far left who happened to be burning down cities over the last couple of years. | ||
| They were so scared of the communists that they were willing to make accommodation with the fascists. | ||
| And one lesson we should learn from history, and including in this country right now, if you've got a real danger from either the far right or the far left, take the far right more seriously. | ||
| Because the far left just doesn't have the staying power in most societies and doesn't have the public support that is able to be, you know, created, catalyzed because they say and do things that make no sense to most ordinary people. | ||
| Okay, I want to try to give the devil his due here. | ||
| Is she right to an extent that you've got a far left and a far right in any political situation, right? | ||
| You're going to have the extremes. | ||
| And is it true that the extremes can get more extreme and gain too much power and bad things can happen? | ||
| And then that goes both ways. | ||
| I would say the answer to that is yes. | ||
| Right now, what she wants to do is scare you about the far right. | ||
| Now, I've illustrated just a moment ago that there's some weird stuff going on on the right, right? | ||
| It's largely coming out of the Tucker Fuentes part of the internet. | ||
| That is a real thing, and it is worth exposing and confronting with the right ideas. | ||
| And I don't think you deplatform these people or silence them. | ||
| I think what you have to do is confront these ideas, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| However, those ideas are largely just sitting in Twitterverse and they're online. | ||
| The left, over the last however many years, has been out in the streets, has been finding common cause with jihadists, has been burning down cities in the name of BLM, has been, I don't know, shooting at the President Donald Trump and assassinating Charlie Kirk. | ||
| So the disconnect here between what has actually been happening and what potentially could happen, and again, I'm not dismissing it. | ||
| I think that's the part that Hillary is missing. | ||
| And to illustrate that, over the last couple of days, this was just on November 10th, at UC Berkeley, got this from Andy No, a far left extremist stole a conservative man's necklace and then punched him repeatedly in the face when he tried to back to take it back outside a Turning Point USA event. | ||
| The victim was bloodied and the leftists racially mocked him for being white. | ||
| Here is video footage of a conservative being beaten by the far left extremist. | ||
| Yeah, so okay, this looks great. | ||
| This is standard. | ||
| Again, this is just at a turning point event. | ||
| These people show up. | ||
| They want to fight with people. | ||
| And this is consistent, of course. | ||
| You guys know this. | ||
| This is like, it doesn't surprise anybody when these things happen at Columbia or they happen at Harvard or Dartmouth now, or particularly Berkeley. | ||
| None of this surprises anybody. | ||
| And I can tell you for a fact, it doesn't surprise me. | ||
| Some of you that have been with me for a while may remember this. | ||
| I tweeted this out a day or two ago. | ||
| I did a show with Charlie Kirk back in 2017. | ||
| And while we were at dinner, some whack jobs broke into our car and stole my backpack with my laptop and favorite sweatpants. | ||
| The police told us not to leave stuff in the trunk in Berkeley. | ||
| You can find the original tweet. | ||
| I showed the picture of the broken glass. | ||
| It was an escalade where we even had security that was standing outside the restaurant for us. | ||
| We were at a Morton steakhouse. | ||
| It was a nice place, me and Charlie. | ||
| And they still did that. | ||
| And imagine when we then complained to the police, they said, well, you just don't leave stuff in your trunk. | ||
| Everyone knows that. | ||
| That is literally what they said. | ||
| And people know this. | ||
| You can do some research on this. | ||
| That people in San Francisco and the surrounding areas just don't leave stuff in their cars anymore. | ||
| There was even a time where people were told, leave your windows open, because if you leave your window open, it will show them that there's nothing in the car so they won't break your window, right? | ||
| Like crazy, crazy, crazy. | ||
| We have a little bit more on what just happened at Berkeley. | ||
| This is from the New York Post. | ||
| Protester named Jihad charged with assault and robbery after brawl at Turning Point USA rally. | ||
| And you really just have to think, is the guy who is bloodied right there, did he wake up thinking he was going to have to fight with Antifa? | ||
| Or did the guy who's named Jihad there who attacked him, like whose motives were worse? | ||
| But there's a series of people who are confused about almost everything. | ||
| One of those people is progressive leader of Chicago, where more black people get killed every weekend than any other city in the United States, Brandon Johnson, Mayor Brandon Johnson. | ||
| And listen to him be very confused as to how to keep places safe. | ||
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| Look, the safest communities in America, they all have one thing in common. | ||
| They invest in people. | ||
| When a child is hungry, you don't say, hey, look, would you like to meet the commander of the 15th police? | ||
| You got to fix the material. | ||
| Dude, the fact you're laughing about this with those guys is insane. | ||
| We just checked the numbers. | ||
| 13 shot, four dead this weekend in Chicago. | ||
| Why don't you know any of their names? | ||
| Why are there no rallies? | ||
| Because of course, it was black people who shot black people. | ||
| And you're black, Brandon Johnson, and you're the one that seems to care about race. | ||
| So why do you not care about that? | ||
| By your own logic right there, it means are you not feeding the people of Chicago properly? | ||
| And that's why they're shooting each other. | ||
| As AOC says, the reason people loot is because they're hungry. | ||
| And I know when I'm starving, I have to have a 42-inch plasma. | ||
| Listen to this from Trump on what's going on in Chicago. | ||
| I am proud to announce that Chicago, Illinois, despite all the radical opposition and obstruction we have from the mayor and the governor, has seen car theft, shootings, robbery, violent crime, and everything else drop dramatically. | ||
| Since the launch of DHS Operation Midway Blitz in Chicago only weeks ago, shootings are down 35%. | ||
| Robberies are down 41%. | ||
| Carjackings are down 50%. | ||
| And this is just with a small initial federal force, not the full surge we have done in Chicago and Memphis. | ||
| As we ramp up more assets, these numbers will continue to drop. | ||
| This has been achieved despite the extraordinary resistance from Chicago and Illinois Radical Democrat leadership and the constant violent left-wing terrorism against ICE officers and federal agents that insurrectionist Democrat officials refuse to stop or prosecute, including constant physical assault and attempted assassination. | ||
| So do you realize that by just sending a few people in, a few feds in, we have seen significant drops in what's going on in Chicago, just as we saw in D.C., which is basically crime-free now, Memphis, and other places. | ||
| This, of course, is to the backdrop of a video we showed you yesterday where Moron Zamboni is saying that the New York City police will not work with ICE. | ||
| So which way do you think the crime statistics are going to go in New York? | ||
| I will take a bet on this if anyone wants to make a gentleman's bet. | ||
| Bottle of tequila, how does that sound? | ||
| In six months from now, we'll pick this up again. | ||
| But the point is, it's very similar to the border thing. | ||
| You know, when you close the border, it's not just building a fence or building a wall or putting troops there or doing something physical. | ||
| It's that you send a signal to the world. | ||
| What did Trump do? | ||
| He sent a signal to the world. | ||
| You can't just come anymore. | ||
| And if you come, we're going to kick you out. | ||
| And by the way, if you come and we catch you and we kick you out, you'll never get back in. | ||
| You can actually, it's not always about, oh, we have to build a wall to physically stop everybody. | ||
| By saying, I am a serious country that is going to protect its borders, the people that are down south or wherever the hell they're coming in from, they're like, you know what? | ||
| We have less of a chance getting in. | ||
| And if we do get in, they might catch us and then we can never get back in. | ||
| So we ain't going to come in the first place. | ||
| Now, that's one thing that Trump has done well. | ||
| Now he's in a little bit of hot water as it pertains to something else kind of related to immigration, which has to do with these H-1B visas. | ||
| So he was on Laura Ingram's show on Fox two nights ago, and he got into it a bit because he was talking about 600,000 Chinese students that he wants to come to the U.S. to do jobs in essence that Americans either can't or won't do. | ||
| So here's the original clip. | ||
| Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United States. | ||
| We have about 350,000 Chinese. | ||
| One point during COVID, you were going to, you know, push to get them out, but that was pulled back. | ||
| You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States. | ||
| Why, sir, is that a pro-maga position when so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China. | ||
| We always have. | ||
| And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business. | ||
| Well, I think that's a big deal. | ||
| Okay, so we're going to show you more in just a second. | ||
| I do want to, as I credited peers, I want to credit Laura here, right? | ||
| This is a, she's obviously in the Trump camp. | ||
| She likes him a lot, big supporter. | ||
| She's asking him a tough question. | ||
| And his answer, in essence, that portion of the answer to me was not great. | ||
| His answer was basically, oh, if these kids don't come, the colleges will fail. | ||
| Well, who cares at this point? | ||
| I mean, have we not talked over the last couple of years about the utter failure of our higher places, our higher places of education and these institutions? | ||
| Like, if the argument is they're only being floated because we're educating foreigners, then maybe they shouldn't exist in the first place. | ||
| But I want to give Trump a chance to explain a little bit further. | ||
| Dependent on China to keep our university system going. | ||
| I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good to have outside countries. | ||
| Look, I want to be able to get along with the world. | ||
| They're not the French. | ||
| They're the Chinese. | ||
| They spy on us. | ||
| They steal our intellectual property. | ||
| Do you think the French are better? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I'll tell you. | ||
| I'm not so sure. | ||
| We've had a lot of problems with the French. | ||
| You don't want to cut half of the people, half of the students from all over the world that are coming into our country, destroy our entire university and college system. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| I wouldn't lose anything. | ||
| And don't forget, MAGA was my idea. | ||
| MAGA was nobody else's idea. | ||
| I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else. | ||
| And MAGA wants to see our country thrive. | ||
| Okay, so I agree with Trump that MAGA wants the country to thrive, but that's not exactly what this is about. | ||
| I'm really with Laura on this. | ||
| Like, if what we're saying is that these places of higher education can only exist, they're only propped up because we have to bring in hundreds of thousands of foreigners, particularly from China, where we know they are stealing intellectual property, and we know there's some level of spying. | ||
| And even if none of that was true, how does it make sense that we are basically subsidizing our American universities with foreign students? | ||
| Like, there does seem to be a problem there. | ||
| Anyway, there was an awful lot of pushback on Trump about this. | ||
| And then the White House did clarify the Chinese student visa policy. | ||
| Here's what they said. | ||
| This is from Fox. | ||
| President Trump isn't proposing an increase in student visas for Chinese students. | ||
| The 600,000 references two years' worth of visas. | ||
| It's simply a continuation of existing policy. | ||
| So, okay, so that is interesting. | ||
| Let's go on the assumption that is true. | ||
| I don't think that changes the overall premise here, which is why is it that we are, in essence, artificially keeping our universities afloat via Chinese and international students? | ||
| I think a lot of people are realizing that that's a problem. | ||
| Here, Trump explains that the H-1B visa, which is what much of this is about, there's a student visa issue, and then the H-1B visa is when they take what they claim are skilled workers, usually from India, but sometimes also from Asia, but usually from India, when they bring in these quote-unquote skilled workers to do jobs that Americans aren't either qualified or talented enough to do. | ||
| There's never going to be a country like what we have right now. | ||
| Republicans have to talk about it later. | ||
| And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration? | ||
| Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. | ||
| I agree, but you also do have to bring in talent. | ||
| Well, we have plenty of talented people here. | ||
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No, you don't. | |
| No, you don't. | ||
| You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory where we're going to make missiles or I'm going to put you. | ||
| How did we ever do it before? | ||
| You're going to need that, Laura. | ||
| I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. | ||
| You can't just say, a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years, and they're going to start making missiles. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| Okay, I want to give them both credit here. | ||
| She's doing a fine job as an interviewer. | ||
| Again, pushing the president who she supports on something, basically saying, we have enough workers here, and why can't it be Americans? | ||
| And then he's also saying something that is true, right? | ||
| Like, which is that, okay, let's say you bring all these companies there. | ||
| We know that these companies are now putting tons of money into factories and everything else here. | ||
| Where do we get the workers? | ||
| Now, you can't, he's right. | ||
| You can't just pull them up on employment lines. | ||
| These are people who are qualified in either completely different things or totally unqualified for something like this, right? | ||
| So, well, first off, could you have some level of training to get these people to come over? | ||
| And could you maybe tell a company from another country, hey, if you're going to build a factory here, part of the deal is you have to hire a certain amount of workers and some of that are from America, and some of that has to be training. | ||
| I have no doubt that some of that takes place. | ||
| But I think what's getting people really sort of annoyed at Trump on this is that in that he is MAGA, he is America first. | ||
| I think people want to hear him say, hey, we're going to figure it out. | ||
| Meaning, you know what? | ||
| They can invest in here, in this country. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| They have access to our markets and all that stuff. | ||
| But they damn well got to figure out a way to hire Americans. | ||
| Nobody wants to hear whether, even if it's slightly true in some sense, that we don't have enough highly qualified people to do a certain amount of these technical jobs, the MAGA base just doesn't want to hear that. | ||
| So I think they have to clean up some of the messaging on this. | ||
| And to illustrate what's been going on a bit more with this H-1B visa thing, because that's what this is about. | ||
| The original idea with H-1B visas was we are going to get highly skilled technical people from other countries who we simply do not have enough of in America to work largely in these, it was mostly for high-tech jobs, right? | ||
| That was the idea of it. | ||
| But we know it has been abused beyond imagination to the point that people move here from India and then literally end up, you know, opening up a subway sandwich shop or something via an H-1B visa. | ||
| And obviously that's an abuse of the system. | ||
| This is tech, you could call him tech bro genius sort of, who founded Oculus, Palmer Lucky, on the abuse of the H-1B visas. | ||
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Of course, there's so much H-1B abuse. | |
| You would not believe what I saw when I was in Silicon Valley. | ||
| It is insane. | ||
| It's obviously a program to try and replace U.S. workers with basically slave labor that can't ever escape. | ||
| The H-1B abuse is crazy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Whether he is correct on that, there happens to be a big debate. | ||
| And you may remember last Christmas, there was a huge debate on this between Elon and Vivek and a whole bunch of other people. | ||
| And a lot of the MAGA people turned on Vivek because he was for it. | ||
| He happens to be Indian. | ||
| There was a weird racial element to some of that. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| But the issue is, if the system is being abused and we're bringing all these people over and they're keeping Americans out of work and they're also abusing it outright so that the jobs that they're doing are not even things that we need necessarily them to do in the first place, then we do have a problem here. | ||
| This was sort of interesting. | ||
| Nalan Haley, who is Nikki Haley's son, I've met him a couple times actually. | ||
| And Nikki Haley, who happens to be Indian, right? | ||
| Her parents are from India. | ||
| He went on Fox. | ||
| I think this is his first kind of prime time TV appearance. | ||
| And here he is talking about the sort of negligent way that H-1B visas have been abused. | ||
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A lot of people are surprised at your position on H-1B visas. | |
| Because you're Indian American and H-1B visas go to a lot of them go to Indian Americans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, they shouldn't be because I've seen how it's affected my friends and those around me. | ||
| At the end of the day, my loyalty is to America. | ||
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I don't have any. | |
| And that's part of assimilation. | ||
| What we saw with Obama is that we had a lot of immigrants coming here. | ||
| And the thought was, oh, you don't need a change. | ||
| You don't need to have your loyalty to America. | ||
| You could be who you are. | ||
| No, you need to assimilate. | ||
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And you need to act like an American and support American values and support American workers and American people. | |
| So yeah, we should absolutely ban it. | ||
| So the interviewer there actually made a, I don't know if it was an intentional mistake or what, but she said a lot of these H-1B visa people are Indian Americans. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| They're Indians. | ||
| They're not Americans. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| They are getting this visa to do work here. | ||
| And then it, in their minds, hopefully gives them a pathway to citizenship. | ||
| But that's a sidebar. | ||
| What Nalen is saying there is completely right. | ||
| If you come here, the only way that America works for 350 million people, and we are only 249 years old, we are still young. | ||
| We don't know if this thing is going to last forever. | ||
| The only way it possibly works is if you assimilate. | ||
| It cannot be that for whatever reason you got here on a work visa or a student visa or your parents came with tattered rags 100 years ago. | ||
| If you come here and decide not to assimilate and not to speak our language and not to be proud of the country or everything, the experiment is over. | ||
| And that is a huge problem. | ||
| So we'll see where the Trump versus MAGA base portion of this hashes out. | ||
| But I wanted to also touch on this a little bit because, you know, one of the frustrations over the last week, I think, has been that if a certain set of people, particularly young people, think that the economy is not working for them, then they might just turn to all of those bad ideas that our ancestors fled, socialism, communism, Marxism, etc. | ||
| So listen to this from ChatGPT. | ||
| This is the median age of a first-time homebuyer by year. | ||
| And this is really, really wild. | ||
| In 1991, median age was 28. | ||
| In 2019, it was 33. | ||
| 2020, it was 33. | ||
| 21, it was 33. | ||
| 22, it was 36. | ||
| 23, it was 35. | ||
| Went down a tiny bit. | ||
| I'm not sure what happened. | ||
| Maybe COVID-related. | ||
| 24, it was 38. | ||
| And in 2025, the median age of a first-time homebuyer is 40 years old. | ||
| Let me just think for one second, because I got into the game a little bit late when it came to home ownership. | ||
| I bought my first home in 2016, which was nine years ago. | ||
| I was 40. | ||
| So I actually track with that. | ||
| But it would have been better. | ||
| I had a lot of lean years. | ||
| I had a lot of lean years where I had next to nothing. | ||
| We couldn't rub two nickels together. | ||
| What you want to do always is encourage people to get involved in an ownership economy, right? | ||
| Because instead of paying rent, then every month, you are paying into something that is yours. | ||
| And then eventually you will be able to sell it. | ||
| And then maybe you can then give money to your children and then they will grow up better than you. | ||
| So now I want to read this tweet from our since departed friend Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I thought he nailed what's going on here quite well. | ||
| This is the social compact breaking down. | ||
| We need urgency to restore it. | ||
| He put this out in August of this past year. | ||
| He said, one, mass deportations. | ||
| Two, stop the H-1B visa scam. | ||
| Three, dramatically reduce legal immigration. | ||
| Four, end chain migration and the visa lottery. | ||
| Five, build 10 million new homes for Americans. | ||
| Six, crush the college cartel. | ||
| Connor, could you leave that up for a minute? | ||
| So if we just quickly analyze each one, mass deportations. | ||
| Okay, we are doing deportations. | ||
| It's probably not going as fast as some people want, but we are doing deportations and we do have control of the border. | ||
| Two, stop the H-1B visa scam. | ||
| We've already addressed that. | ||
| And this is where Trump, I think, is going to have a little bit of a fight with the base. | ||
| Do we really need these people? | ||
| Why do we need 600,000 Chinese in two years? | ||
| And if that's just to prop up our colleges, that doesn't sound great. | ||
| Three, dramatically reduce legal immigration. | ||
| 100% Trump has done that one. | ||
| So that one you can just black out altogether. | ||
| Four, end chain migration and the visa lottery. | ||
| So chain migration is when you start bringing in family members. | ||
| The visa lottery, which is that you basically put yourself into a lottery and then you might win a ticket to get to America. | ||
| So, okay, I think that makes sense. | ||
| We could get rid of that. | ||
| Five, build 10 million new homes for Americans. | ||
| Do we need more homes? | ||
| Because if there was more supply, it's basic supply and demand, would the prices go down? | ||
| The answer is yes. | ||
| And six, crush the college cartel. | ||
| That's the most interesting one to the backdrop of what Trump said, because Trump was basically saying we've got to prop up the colleges. | ||
| There you have Charlie, who was Trump's number one supporter, saying, oh, that's the thing that must be destroyed, meaning we're bringing in too, way too many people to do this. | ||
| So that is quite interesting. | ||
| Phoenix, can you roll for me a little bit? | ||
| But where do I want to connect this to? | ||
| What I want to connect this to is what I said a moment ago. | ||
| This thing, this beautiful freaking thing that we are all part of as Americans only works if we all assimilate, if we all bring our foods, our traditions, our languages, and we all sold it into something that is bigger than us. | ||
| And I just want, I like doing this. | ||
| I think it's an effective way of communicating to you guys, and it's true. | ||
| I just want you to think for one second, just stop for one second and think about your grandparents or your great-grandparents. | ||
| Think about whoever came here down the line in your family, wherever they came from. | ||
| And they most likely spoke a different language, and they most likely came here with nothing. | ||
| That's the story. | ||
| I know it's the story of my family, and it's the story of almost everybody's family. | ||
| It doesn't matter what part of the world that they came from. | ||
| And then hopefully, if your family did it right, they started speaking English and they started loving America and loving freedom and loving individual rights and loving our founding and all of those things and becoming part of something that was better than what they left. | ||
| If we do not do that, it will fall apart. | ||
| I would like to show you a video. | ||
| I just saw this like 10 seconds before we started the show today, and I thought it was kind of perfect relative to what we're talking about. | ||
| This is a video from Dearborn, Michigan. | ||
| Again, it's a banger of a song, but I think you get the point there, guys. | ||
| Look, I'm not saying every one of those people is evil. | ||
| Of course they're not. | ||
| Of course they're not. | ||
| I would treat everyone as equal. | ||
| But does that look like the America that you want this place to be? | ||
| Does that look like the America that your grandparents or great-grandparents or whatever it is down the line came to? | ||
| How do you think those people are going to vote? | ||
| How do you think that's going to work for liberal democracy? | ||
| How do you think that's going to be for minorities or for other religions, etc., etc.? | ||
| And the reason that we better raise the alarm on that here in America is because we know what it has done already across the world. | ||
| So let's jump across the pond to London. | ||
| And here are Londoners. | ||
| They are Londoners. | ||
| Now, these are likely legal people who live in London waving jihadist flags. | ||
| Oh, and a dude with a knife. | ||
| Like, where are the people going? | ||
| Fish and chips! | ||
| We need dental work. | ||
| Like old school bricks, you know, like where are those people? | ||
| Well, they're coward. | ||
| I don't want to say they're cowards. | ||
| They've been pushed into an unbelievably untenable situation that is largely not their fault. | ||
| And we don't want that coming here because we will give it all away. | ||
| So how about a little video of London in the 1940s, the 1970s, and the early 2000s? | ||
| So which one of those looks better? | ||
| Now, I'm not saying everything was great in Britain in the 1940s and the 1970s and the early 2000s, but they didn't have foreigners waving foreign flags calling for jihad and the destruction of their country, many of whom who are living off the government dole, who have ideas that are completely at odds with what actual British values are. | ||
| But don't take my word for it. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| I thought this video was going mega viral over the last couple of days. | ||
| This is a British World War II veteran. | ||
| If I'm not mistaken, he's 100 years old. | ||
| Here he is on Remembrance Day. | ||
| And listen to this message. | ||
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What does Remembrance Sunday mean for you? | |
| What is your message? | ||
| My message is I can see in my mind's eye the rows and rows of white stones of all the hundreds of my friends and everybody else that gave their lives for what? | ||
| The country of today. | ||
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| The sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now. | ||
| God, that is chilling. | ||
| Like, how could something hit you harder in the stomach? | ||
| You know, he talks about his friends and the hundreds of others that are dead, that died, that paid the price so that his country could be free. | ||
| It wasn't easy to do that. | ||
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And now he's, I mean, I don't have to analyze it. | |
| He's saying it wasn't worth it because look what our country became. | ||
| So we've got some work to do. | ||
| But I have nothing better to do than save the world. | ||
| So let's go ahead and do it. | ||
| I'm on Piers Morgan later today to discuss much of what we discussed during the show today. | ||
| I'll be on Fox News also later today with Tommy Laren and I think a couple other things. | ||
| But we also have a postgame show in 30 seconds. | ||
| Rubinreport.locals.com. | ||
| Thank you for watching. | ||
| See you, Mark. |
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