Dave Rubin and Sage Steele dissect Donald Trump's second inauguration, analyzing his speech which declared a national emergency at the southern border, reinstated the Remain in Mexico policy, designated cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, and established the Department of Government Efficiency. They contrast Trump's post-assassination spiritual shift with the outgoing administration's final days, including Anthony Fauci's retroactive pardon and Mike Johnson's claims about Biden's legislative understanding. Steele reflects on her 2016 departure from ESPN to speak facts despite fear, emphasizing that listening to one's heart is crucial even when friendships are sacrificed. Ultimately, the episode suggests that authentic leadership requires moral courage over political safety, predicting a future where America advances through principled action rather than compromise. [Automatically generated summary]
And then you went through your stuff with COVID and you went through your stuff with BLM and you went through the corporate fight with ESPN over all of those issues and everything else.
And then you end up...
Literally campaigning with Trump, interviewing Trump during the campaign and everything, and going to these events with him.
And I think that perfectly represents the realignment right now, that Donald Trump's coalition, it's not just that it's conservatives or Republicans and blah, blah, blah, but it's like Sage Steele magically appears, and Jillian Michaels, and Joe Rogan, etc., etc.
I crushed that speech, and when she sat back down, we kind of, you know, we've gotten to be friends, and I kind of just grabbed hands, and I got choked up thinking about what must have been going through her mind to say yes to going on that stage.
And then again yesterday, here in Washington, D.C., to speak at that last rally, somebody who did not have a great relationship with Donald Trump had every reason in the world to say, no, I'm good.
I'm good.
And to see so many of us Look at the big picture.
And then, to me, and Dave, you know this, I feel like if we don't use our platforms, no matter how big and small they are, in this moment, then what a waste.
And that's why I chose to not stay silent, because it was a lot easier, smarter maybe to stay silent, cheaper, all of the things, right?
Because if we're telling our children to stand up for others and to do the right thing even when it's hard and then we choose not to, that's when I'm really a sellout.
So you can see, obviously, exactly why I wanted to have Sage on.
Because I think that represents what so many of us are going through.
So many of you who I'm sure are first-time Trump voters that were just like, something pushed you.
To the ends.
Was it COVID? Was it the BLM stuff?
Was it the woke stuff with the kids?
That's what really woke up Megan, what they were doing to her kids in school, etc., etc.
So, we have a normal show for you today, live from D.C. We're just going to dive right into it.
Some of the clips, obviously, are things that happened today, and then we'll sort of juxtapose a little bit of the good stuff with some of the outgoing administration, which is, let's say, less than stellar.
Why don't we start?
Which, it's all so funny.
You watch the drama unfold live.
This is Donald Trump and Joe Biden going from the White House to the Capitol in the car together.
Apparently, Amy Klobuchar was in there, and it's like, man, to be a fly on that wall.
But take a look in the Secret Service limo.
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Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
And we're seeing, looks like the two presidents coming out together.
Wow.
Ladies and gentlemen, the president-elect of the United States, the Honorable Donald John Trump.
Thank you.
Here you have it, the return of Donald Trump to Washington as president.
He said eight years ago he would be back in some form.
Trying to get in underneath that hat that you spoke of, Mary Jordan, to give the First Lady a peck on the chair.
But first, the limo ride itself, it's like in a normal time, like if we were in normal times, and obviously normal times are long gone, but if you were to say like, okay, this was, I don't know, George H.W. Bush handing over to Bill Clinton, you could see them in a limo together and it would make sense.
It would be like, ah, you're a little more conservative, you're a little more liberal, let's get in the car, have the transfer of power.
But with these guys, it was literally like, I mean, in essence, it was like you are a geriatric patient who doesn't really know what's going on here, who has ushered in Marxism and almost destroyed the country and opened the border and all of those things.
And Biden, for whatever's left of Biden, probably look at him going, oh, well, everyone was calling you a white supremacist and everything else.
So to just be in the car.
But doesn't that show you the strength of America, actually, that it all worked today?
And thank goodness, I mean, the traditions do matter to every single person that was involved today, which is why they complied, so to speak, because I'm sure that they...
And I have, honestly, I think we should, from the human aspect, put ourselves in their shoes.
Most importantly for me, Kamala Harris, putting myself in her shoes that, you know...
When he was giving that speech today, right?
And watching the reactions.
I wanted the cameras just to focus on all of that.
All right, so I want to show you a couple pictures here because obviously the cast of characters, you know, having been here in D.C. now for 48 hours or so.
I've realized that, like, there's everyone kind of, you see all these people on TV, and I'm one of those people, or online, and it's like, everyone's like Muppets.
Like, everyone is here, and you're like, oh, there's another guy from The Muppet Show, and another guy from The Muppet Show, and I block that guy, and that guy hates me, and I don't like her, and yet you're all there together.
It's quite weird, but the cast of characters behind Trump, I think we have two pictures here.
So first, obviously there's the usual suspects from the Trump family, and then obviously there's Melania and Junior.
But then I think the other picture is the one that I really wanted to focus on for a minute because this is the super interesting one.
So this is Jeff Bezos, who obviously owns Amazon, has largely been a lefty his entire life, owns the Washington Post, which in no way has been kind to Donald Trump, to say the least.
There's Elon, of course, and we don't even have to expand on him.
But then there's the other one, Mark Zuckerberg, and that picture sort of perfectly exemplifies the confusion that I think he's in right now, which is...
Am I really part of this thing or what?
I mean, what do you make of this?
Because I was just on Piers Morgan Little Air this afternoon, and they were talking about, Cornel West was on, and he's, I guess, a socialist.
And he was just, the oligarchy is here, and they're going to take over, and all of these things.
And it's like, boy.
You guys didn't say much about Soros, did you?
And I'm pretty proud and happy that we have leaders that innovate and want to take us to Mars and do incredible things and build industries and jobs.
I think that's pretty good for America for the most part.
But you know, this goes back months ago when I saw Zuck sitting next to Dana White at one of the UFC matches.
I said, okay.
We know Dana, and not Dana's politics, because he really claims to not be, and I know what he believes, but his loyalty to Donald Trump.
And so when Zuckerberg was sitting front row with Dana at that UFC event, I'm like, okay, I know what's happening here.
To me, the most fascinating part is, look at, I mean, Elon Musk standing there tall.
I mean, he's a tall man anyway, but towering over everybody else, looking straight forward.
He won.
He won.
Remember the boxing match that was being planned between Elon and Mark Zuckerberg?
I mean, he did win.
He was the first one.
Remember, also at the last UFC match, actually the one at the Madison Square Garden where I was, we had the picture of Elon Musk, RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, and everybody standing there.
All former Democrats who have come over.
So I will be kinder starting tomorrow.
With all of these people who have just come around.
And my prayer is that everybody has learned.
And this is America.
And no one should be silenced, even if I don't like what you're saying.
There's a lot of things I don't like, but I absolutely believe that they should be heard.
And these men who are at the top of these companies should remember.
You definitely all saw this this morning, but I think it's a magical moment that will be etched in everyone's brain, so it's worth seeing again.
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This is Donald Trump being sworn in as 47. I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and will,
to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.
So I have to say that for those of you that are not in D.C., it was an interesting moment because we all thought, obviously, for those of us that are here, and I'm not just talking about the public people, I'm talking about the we the people people, the thousands of people who are coming here, it normally would have been done at the mall, of course and then because it's freezing out right now they moved it to the capital so it was really only the elected officials and then this small set of other people there so we were the rest of us were basically left watching it either at capital one or hotels or whatever
so i'm literally sitting in the hotel lobby watching it with a bunch of strangers but i can tell you that the the moment that the swearing in was official i felt something lift off my chest and i don't know that i've felt that since the day i moved to florida and when we landed in the plane i felt something come off of me and that's what i felt with this it was like we can breathe again and we can be a serious good No, not good.
We can economically be better for ourselves, for our future, for our kids, etc.
We can speak freely.
We can disagree.
I did get a little choked up because for a year and a half, however long it's been since he said officially I'm running, even though we now know that the moment he quote-unquote lost in 2020...
He was going to run again.
And he's been working to get to this day for four years.
Literally, he has.
But I got choked up because I've had a lot of fear.
Mainly fear for his safety.
And we know why.
Even coming here this weekend, once on Friday, once everything changed and I knew I wasn't going to be able to, you know, I mean, selfishly in many ways, to be on the steps of the Capitol, which was the plan, and to witness it.
I've never been to one.
Don't know that I'll go to another.
I thought, okay, with the weather.
Most importantly, because I thought, yes, weather and safety.
That's why there's many changes here.
The drone issue.
Like, I've been so fearful for Donald J. Trump and for everybody in his family.
For a couple of years now.
And so for me, that's why there was emotion.
Because they had to have courage to push through this.
Donald Trump does not have to do this.
He didn't need to do this.
He could have been on one of his many golf courses, all of his properties around the world.
So I don't know if you can hear it coming through our mics right now, but there is a caravan outside blasting Queens.
We will, we will rock you.
Can you guys hear that at home?
Yeah, you think it's coming through a little bit?
I don't know what's going on out there.
But that kind of sums up what's going on in this city right now.
Before I get to the immigration stuff specifically, I just want to talk about the tone of the speech because there were two things that he did there that I thought were really interesting.
And I think it was very intentional.
He was really sticking it to the people behind his left-hand shoulder.
In some ways, we could connect it to the Zuckerberg thing we were talking about before because with Zuckerberg, where there's no sort of apology and now you have to kind of figure out what that is, Trump wanted it to be very direct.
You know who screwed this thing up, guys, and they're right here.
So that's why I thought it was so important, because it just kind of puts a stamp on it.
He doesn't have to really focus on it anymore.
He can focus on building and laying out new roads to the future.
So I thought that was quite good.
We'll get into the immigration and more, but let me read this tweet from Visegrad24 just about some of the executive orders, because there are a whole bunch coming through today.
I mean, they are rolling out this stuff fast.
Trump announces he's signing a large number of executive orders today, including closing the border to illegal immigrants via a proclamation.
Declaring an emergency at the southern border, designating drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, reinstating the Remain in Mexico policy, ending the catch and release policy, declaring a national energy emergency, establishing a new Department of Government efficiency, DOGE, ending diversity, equity, and inclusion programs to create a society that is colorblind and merit-based, recognize only two sexes, male and female, reinstate everyone in the military fired for not taking the vaccine and issuing them back pay.
Before I let you chime in, look, I'm not a huge fan of executive actions.
I want things to be done the proper way, which is that the legislature should write the laws and then the president should sign them.
But we do live in a time where a lot is done via executive action.
Most of this is reversing bad policy.
So I'm completely fine with all of that.
And I was also thinking, when it comes to the two-gender thing, can you imagine if the founders...
If you would have been like, and 250 plus, about 248 years later, the president of the United States incoming is going to have to tell you how many sexes there are.
I also think he made a real point of talking about immigration and saying we are doing this now because I think he only has a limited window on it.
Because the deportation thing was so central to him, right?
Like they told everyone 10 years ago in 2015 that he was Hitler because of the wall.
Now many people have come around to his position.
So it was like, they have a window to do something, and it sounds like they're going to be sending troops already into Chicago to make some things happen.
Let's just, I want to play one other piece, because there's a spiritual element to all of this, I think for everybody right now, because I think so many of us are feeling this thing, like we almost gave away the most precious experiment in human history, and Trump, who obviously is not a particularly religious person, does seem like something has changed him, and I... Well, he acknowledged it right here.
Like, I do think that whatever you think of his personal beliefs or his religious beliefs or whatever that might be, that I actually think he, in his heart...
I remember two days after he got shot and watching his granddaughter, Kai, on the stage at the RNC in Milwaukee, and I felt at that moment the real human part of him that we don't get to see much of, and part of that is intentional by him.
But to be watching his granddaughter do that, he looked like he was about to cry.
His life was millimeters from being taken just 48 hours prior.
And I do know people, of course, within the administration and parts of his people that are part of the family who say, yeah, he knows that it was divine intervention.
He has spoken of it.
And I love how it was a real overarching theme throughout for him and really throughout this campaign.
To talk about God, and then to have a rabbi, a pastor, Cardinal Dolan, he made sure that everyone felt represented, as many people as possible, and to make sure that whoever you choose to worship your God.
You're allowed to, and you can say it.
And that has had a trickle-down effect throughout the country.
Look at how many more athletes and coaches on national platforms, on live TV, are talking about their relationship with God and Jesus Christ, or whoever it is.
I just love the freedom.
And that, to me, it told me everything I needed to know, already knew, about Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
To sit on their hands at that moment.
Don't stand up, fine.
But just clap for that.
Because you might hate them, but did you want them dead?
Right, and the irony of all that, of course, is if you actually believed any of the things they had said about him for a decade, then in some ways you could make the argument that they would have wanted him dead, right?
If you actually thought he was Hitler, that's like the argument about would you go back in time and kill baby Hitler if you could, baby Hitler being innocent at the time.
If you believed he was any of these things, you would do extraordinarily horrible things to stop him.
That was why seeing Obama up there, it's like, dude, two days before, The election.
You went up there and pushed out the very fine people hoax, basically said Donald Trump's a white supremacist, and there you are, smiling and shaking hands once again.
But at the end of the day, after he got shot, remember they said, all that nasty rhetoric, we're going to stop, because there's a line no one ever deserves.
Let's focus on a guy who doesn't care anymore, because I don't think we're going to see him much more, which is Joe Biden, for just a moment, because he did a few outgoing things.
And again, when you say he did it, nobody knows who really is in charge.
So we'll talk about some of the pardons that he did in just a moment.
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All right, so we'll have more on Trump and this revival of America in just a second.
But Biden or the Biden administration or whoever was still in charge at the end, they went out with a bang.
They really did because they issued a whole bunch of pardons to a lot of the bad guys, let's say, and to Biden's family members and everything else.
First, let's show you the presidential pardon of Anthony Fauci.
I'm not going to read the entire thing there, but Anthony Fauci has been pardoned retroactively.
To 2014. And there's something specifically interesting about that date.
I want to read you this tweet by Hans Mankel on Twitter.
The fact that Fauci's pardon specifically and explicitly addresses his COVID-related offenses.
While being backdated to 2014, the year gain-of-function ban took effect, which Fauci circumvented by outsourcing experiments to China, speaks volumes as to what this is really about.
So everyone knows already that this is what Fauci did.
He took NIH funds through EcoHealth.
They did it in China because it was banned here.
And Biden, and again, I'm going to stop saying it because otherwise we'll just talk ourselves into circles.
No one knows who's in charge of any of this.
But this administration decided to say, Fauci...
Even though you lied about masks, you made up social distancing, the school closures, not letting people see grandma die, all of those things.
On the way out, here's another gift on top of your $400,000 a year lifetime pension.
Ground me if I said what I want to say, that they love you, about Anthony Fauci, number one, and what he has done, what he has done to this country and this world.
But I guess in this moment, no.
Okay, we don't know who's running the country who has been, Barack Obama, whatever.
Joe Biden, he signed his name.
He chose to do this.
It is incomprehensible.
Maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that, oh, he wouldn't go to that level.
It's obvious why he went back to 2014. That's when the gain-of-function research began.
He's a criminal.
I hope, and I'm not smart enough to understand the process, I hope there's another way to hold him accountable.
And by the way, you don't have to accept a pardon.
I mean, if you're Hunter Biden, you better, right?
And if you're Anthony Fauci, if you've done nothing wrong, as you've claimed for all these years, why would you sign that?
Why do you need to be protected?
Are you just afraid of what Donald Trump's going to do?
Is to put you on the stand and say, let's talk about this under oath and what you chose to do and why?
The lies, the constant changing of it.
I mean, he's come out, like you said, and talked about the masks and the lack of efficacy since then.
I am disgusted what he did to our children.
Moments and times that they'll never get back and with loved ones.
Pause there for one second, because it's a perfect segue to this next piece, and then I'll let you pick it up right after.
Because Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, went on Barry Weiss's podcast on Free Press, and they were talking about how Biden literally, I often say the word literally, literally did not know what legislation and what actions he was signing.
Okay, so Johnson is getting some criticism right now because of that, because people are saying, well, why didn't you say that more?
Forcefully or vocally or publicly over the last couple of months.
But put that aside for a moment.
The other thing that he did say in that was that he was trying to get a meeting with Joe Biden for six months.
And they would not let the Speaker of the House get a meeting with Joe Biden.
And that when he walked into the room, when he finally got the meeting, when he walked into the room, Kamala Harris, and I think it was Chuck Schumer, basically blocked him from the president because they knew if he was able to ask the president anything.
That that was gonna happen.
So that exactly gets to your point.
Who the hell was doing all of this?
And actually, is there a legal issue here when it comes to these pardons or executive actions?
And that was when everything was confirmed, what we had been talking about for all this time.
He's not all there.
I said, then, the human element is heartbreaking.
We're beyond that.
Jill Biden, shame on you.
We're beyond that.
I don't obviously believe that he knew what he was doing.
Who put these pardons in front of him?
You know?
I mean, I assume he knew that he was signing hunters and executing all that.
The timing of this must be discussed as well.
15 minutes?
Before all of this began?
Before they entered the rotunda?
15 minutes.
So the timing of this, I mean, he waited to the very last second, probably to make sure that the Trump administration didn't fully know, couldn't put it in his speech to comment on it.
The last moment he could possibly do any pardons and any damage.
You know what it proves to me?
It proves what I have believed, unfortunately.
I didn't want to believe this for a very long time.
This man and Kamala Harris, They do not love America.
They do not believe in democracy.
They don't, or else they would not have done this.
So the 46th president of the United States leaves in shambles and in a cloud of darkness, not because of anybody else, but because of what he did and did not choose to do.
You know, it's funny, because I don't want to dwell on it today, because I think there's so many good things here, but you're so right.
It's like, if what Mike Johnson said is true, that he walks into this room after they delay him from getting a meeting with the president for six months.
And we can only take him at his word, right?
So he walks into a room, then he gets basically ambushed because they don't want him to see the president.
So now Kamala and Chuck Schumer are doing that.
They are in an absolute violation of their oath of office.
If they knew, and they damn well did, that Joe Biden was mentally compromised and they were doing things that...
You know, basically putting paper in front of him to sign without a million.
It's like, I mean, that is a criminal act.
I don't know what we do with that at this point, and maybe today's not the day to fully unpack it.
Secretary, do you not, I mean, put the politics of the election aside if you want.
Do you not look at the immigration issue in this country and what has transpired over the last four years, given the number of people coming into this country illegally, given the firestorm that this has created, the national dialogue about it, given some of the efforts, frankly, by the administration, especially early on, to be more lenient than they have.
And this is not specific to government, but to any large organization, including a government administration.
People have different views on what the correct policies...
What the correct operational measures should be, those disagreements, those different views are voiced, decisions are made, and then everyone marches in unity together.
That is the nature of a large organization, and the government is no different.
As you know, the one thing I'm going to miss about the guy is the eyebrows.
But basically what he is saying there, you can see it's the subtext of what he's saying.
He was sort of saying, I guess I wanted to close the border a little bit more, but it's a big organization and I got to work with people, so don't look at me.
And that's kind of a perfect ending to this administration.
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As promised, back to the golden age.
Let's talk about the future.
Donald Trump is going to do an awful lot.
And as I said earlier, I think the runway to do an awful lot is going to be somewhat short because there will be all sorts of people waiting to put the potholes in front of the plane.
So he's going to do a lot.
It's going to be quick.
And hopefully that sets the tone for everything.
Here's a bit more on some of the things he's going to do.
I think we're going to have a resolution to Ukraine.
Within three months.
It's going to be a little messy, but I think there's enough pressure he can apply on Zelensky.
Like, hey, dude, you're not getting any more weapons.
There has to be some sort of concession with Putin.
He's got nukes.
That will be resolved.
The Middle East, it's still more complex because there's hostages, but I think we will unleash hell on you.
I sense that there's going to be some change there pretty quickly.
And then his reference to, I don't know if that was like a wider World War III thing, or he was just sort of mentioning that within the paradigm of both of those.
But it just seems like a strong America will be back and lead the world, and that's kind of what every good person wants.
I mean, all of those things were happening before he took office because they knew they need to get on his good side, even if it's just financial for the tariff reason, etc.
With Ukraine.
Yeah, that needs to happen quickly.
I hope it is that fast.
And it's more complicated than I can even begin to comprehend, for sure.
But I think everybody now knows that that was dirty as well.
And then as they continue to send funds over in the last week or so, and then, you know, at the same time that California is burning down, and we've talked so much about that, some of that money to go help them.
Let's not forget about North Carolina, etc.
The thing that gives me chills is the end of that clip.
When he said, you know, basically we're a lot closer to World War III than we know.
Speaking of different energy and different vibe, well, we're going to actually do some things that the government promised.
Take a look at this tweet right here from Leading Report.
Trump administration is reportedly planning a large-scale immigration raid in Chicago next week per Wall Street Journal.
It sounds like about 200 officers, a little unclear which departments they're going to come from, are going to go in and clean up what's going on in Chicago.
Sorry, little X just followed me on the stage here.
He's a very enthusiastic supporter, as you can see.
Woo!
Yeah!
So, we're looking forward to making a lot of changes, and, you know, the This victory is the start, really.
What matters going forward is to actually make significant changes, cement those changes, and set the foundation for America to be strong for a century, for centuries, forever.
One thing I always say on the show is when people are telling the truth, it's easy.
The way he's laughing there, not in the fake Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris cackle laugh, but with his child there who apparently is named X, actually, or XC429 or something like that.
But he really has plans to not only get us to Mars, but to make this country better, to make things work again, to reduce traffic.
And to get electric cars out there and to literally have paraplegics use their minds so that they can speak and play chess and all of these things.
And he's doing these things.
And this is the guy that they hate so much because he supported Batman right there.
And again, and I can have a full mea culpa about it.
One of the reasons I was not supporting him at the beginning and I was in the DeSantis camp for the primary was I was concerned that he would not be able to get good people around him.
Yeah, but you're a man and you can acknowledge it.
Most of us who are normal human beings can acknowledge that.
But what he said on Joe Rogan, when he acknowledged his mistakes, what a concept, from his first presidency and how He was quick to bring on people and not quick enough to get rid of some people.
I mean, he's bringing in half of the Democrats and the tech bros.
And you may not love everybody on every single issue, but that goes to the strength of America because we are a big country geographically and philosophically.
And we have something very special at our hands right now.
We'll have some finishing thoughts on all of this.
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Recently, Dr. Lake has focused his attention away from mainstream cosmetic practices.
Why?
so he can pursue a revolutionary anti-aging breakthrough, one that some experts say could empty the wallets of the cosmetic industry.
His personal clients have dubbed his new do-it-yourself technique the age rewinder method, because it can take years or even decades off your appearance in under two minutes.
In light of this amazing breakthrough, Dr. Lake has released a step-by-step video to the public, free and uninterrupted, where he outlines exactly how to use this simple solution from home.
The video has gone viral.
At first, it was shared by users on Facebook, but since then, it's racked up over 2.3 million views and counting.
So far, the comments and feedback have been outstanding, with thousands of women reporting they look decades younger.
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All right, Sage.
So to wrap this up, can we go personal for a moment?
I know you are the star of going personal.
Should we whip off our shoes?
Here, I'm going to take off my shoes for a moment.
It's going to be a little harder for you to do, but I know when you go personal, you like to have shoes off.
So I want to go personal for a second because I've really been thinking about something for the last 48 hours since I've been here, which is that...
And this may sound corny or something, but the last two days have been such a confirmation that I did something right with my life.
And I know that's not what's really important here in the grand scheme of things for the moment, but being around all of this, going...
To these parties the last couple of days and joking with Bobby about how I predicted he was going to leave the Democratic Party and seeing so many of the people who I've entered and for the three years that I was working on Tulsi to leave the Democrats and guys like David Sachs who invested in my company years ago who I barely knew now is going to be the AI crypto and the laundry list goes on.
I don't mean this as a pat on the back.
I mean it as like I just feel like I somehow ended up doing something good in the world and I think that that's...
I think that that somehow is connected to what everyone that has been part of this should be feeling.
That is the we the people thing.
We say we the people, but it means if you do something that is good, that it will expand and it will reach out in ways you have no idea.
So I've just felt very validated or something.
And I guess maybe I never stop and think about it.
People say nice things to me a lot or whatever that might be, but something about the last 48 hours, I've been like, whoa, I am in this Thing that actually did something really important if I don't do anything else.
That took courage, took a lot, you know, especially because that was the toughest time to do it in 2016 when, I'll never forget where I was on election day that day because...
I was certainly, I was still in deep at ESPN, and we had had that political, the mandate saying, don't tweet, don't talk politics, and all of a sudden, I'm on Twitter, and I see the executives, the leadership at ESPN, like, freaking out that Donald Trump has just won, and saying the most negative things on Twitter as our leadership, and I thought, what the hell is going on?
We're not allowed to, and if the leaders are.
So that was the beginning of a big turn for me, too, but that was when it was its toughest.
To stand up and to speak out.
And I couldn't for many more years.
It took a lot more for me to get there in order to keep the job, whatever.
But I hope that it is a lesson to so many.
That when you feel something in your gut, in your heart, like we did, and whatever your turning point is, it really doesn't matter.
I said this to Megyn Kelly two days after my lawsuit settled and I left ESPN. I said, I didn't know what my line was until it was crossed.
And I didn't.
But you just keep taking the pounding and the pounding, and then you go, no, it's not okay, and here's why.
And COVID hit and everything else, and our children are affected, depending on where you lived.
It takes courage, and I just hope that everybody, for whatever it is in their life, even if it's not political, you've got to listen to yourself and your heart and your soul.
And why are you doing things?
Why are you not?
Why are you avoiding things?
Because it is scary.
The fear is...
Absolutely legit that you had and I had in millions of people.
I said that at one of the balls the other night that I was at, and I don't remember.
We don't sleep much when we're here.
It's like every single person in that room had to make a decision to come and to vote for Donald Trump.
Most of them, many of them, had not voted for him the first time around.
So they had to make a decision to lose friendships, relationships with family, jobs.
There's so many things that were sacrificed by the people, we the people.
And I just hope, this is what I say to my kids, and you know, all three of my kids are in college now, are very independent thinkers, certainly don't always agree with what their mom says or how she says it.
But, like, I just want them to not wait as long as I did to be true to myself and what I believe, because I didn't fit in the box that my industry wanted me to.
I shudder at the thought of what had happened if I had stayed quiet.
And you had stayed quiet.
Because what you're doing is you're helping America.
You're employing people.
You're bringing people together by just speaking the facts.
And I know now that obviously I'll never go back.
But I do get sick thinking of the what if, if you, if many people, Patrick Bette David, Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan, I was sitting there the night.
Before the election, when President Trump is speaking there in Pittsburgh, when the news came that Joe Rogan said, you know, and everybody freaked out.
He didn't have...
Why does that benefit him?
But when you're doing the right thing, it actually helps others, too.
It's about us, because you are helping others, and you could have stayed quiet and still made all your money, but you chose not to because it was the right thing.