All Episodes
Sept. 3, 2024 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
02:25:25
Dave Rubin Returns to the Grid After 31 Days! Sage Steele Guest-Hosts
Participants
Main voices
d
dave rubin
48:58
s
sage steele
01:08:55
Appearances
n
nancy pelosi
01:47
r
robert f kennedy-jr
01:51
Clips
a
andrew huberman
00:07
b
bill maher
00:32
d
donald j trump
00:59
j
joe biden
00:10
j
joe rogan
00:56
k
kamala harris
00:57
t
theo von
00:41
t
tulsi gabbard
00:25
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Thanks for watching!
dave rubin
What are the chances that I don't get kicked off Twitter and YouTube just for talking to you?
A good solid 10%.
10% getting kicked off or 10% staying?
donald j trump
percent. 10% staying on.
dave rubin
You're gonna be here when Joe Biden is long gone. So running
cover for a guy that that clearly is not capable of the job is not a long term strategy for your career.
unidentified
Trump said there are good people on both sides.
dave rubin
He didn't say that.
He said it, but a sentence later he said, I'm not talking about the white supremacists and the Nazis.
Yeah, I have to.
I'm always talking about this wide tent thing, because there's a lot of good people out there.
Of course there are very fine people on both sides.
unidentified
Yes.
Are you a good, decent citizen? Are you vaccinated?
dave rubin
It's nobody's business whether I'm vaccinated.
That's like me asking you the last time you got laid.
I mean, it's just irrelevant.
Anthony Fauci can go f*** himself.
unidentified
Yeah!
Should I take you for dinner?
No.
dave rubin
Order your own potato.
You shared the potato with a billionaire.
How do you think I became a... Oh, no.
He's a billionaire.
He's a billionaire.
He's broke.
unidentified
Oh, god damn it.
It's a crazy world, crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
kamala harris
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
unidentified
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
kamala harris
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
unidentified
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
It's a crazy world, it's a crazy world.
Somebody's gotta have the same views.
sage steele
It is here, finally.
It is time to welcome him back.
Welcome back to... Wait, who am I, you're wondering?
Who the heck is this woman with all this hair on Dave's show?
I'm Sage Steele, and I am honored to be here on the day that we're welcoming Dave Rubin back from his annual foray somewhere in the world.
We never really know.
Actually, I have no idea, which is why one of many questions I have from Max is we welcome him back.
Hi, Dave Rubin.
You're here.
unidentified
Wow.
dave rubin
First off, they thought I got a real glow up when your face appeared just there.
sage steele
No, no, not at all.
Honestly, OK, you guys need to buckle up and or get comfortable like all of the above.
First of all, it is an honor for me to be here with you.
The fact that you asked me to do this because past several years you've had some incredible people come and welcome you back.
Last year was like 10,000 degrees in Milwaukee, right?
dave rubin
Yeah, it was the hottest day of the year in Milwaukee with Malice and Jordan Peterson and a couple other guys and Glenn Beck's done it and Megyn Kelly's done it and Ben Shapiro's done it.
sage steele
So I better not screw this up!
dave rubin
But you were truly my first choice for this year because I felt that Well, first off, did you notice the little sort of exhale I just did in the middle of your intro there?
I am definitely feeling a little different than I have felt in years past, and that is partly why I wanted you to do this, because there's a very obvious political version of this, of escaping politics, and the machine, and all that stuff, and the craziness, and the two weeks beforehand There was a coup, I don't know if anyone's talking about that anymore, and I don't know who the VP is on the Kamala side, assuming she's still in office.
I have no idea.
Oh, and the assassination.
There was so much craziness going on, and I just knew, beyond the political part, that for me to do this, and do it as honestly as I can, and for all the reasons that I guess I am halfway decent at this job, that I needed to escape in a different way.
And also now with two two-year-olds and you're really, Phoenix said right when I sat down, and I haven't even talked to the guys, I said when I get in the studio let's just say hi, we did a quick hug with everybody, and then I just sat down like I really haven't spoken to adults in the last month.
I'm not kidding.
sage steele
Well, that's not happening in this room today.
dave rubin
I talked to David, and then I basically just talked to two two-year-olds for the last month, like, you know, a couple waiters here and there, or, you know, the cashier at Whole Foods, but, like, I have not had, like, even an adult conversation in a while.
unidentified
It's incredible.
dave rubin
It was a true, true escape.
sage steele
I think it's incredible that you choose to do this every year.
And before we get into some of the details of that, why?
Where did this idea initially come from?
Because I think this must be one of the hardest things that any professional in any industry could choose to do in today's day and age.
dave rubin
You know, the first year, I think this was my eighth year doing it, and the first year it was kind of a joke.
Like, it was, the show had just taken off a little bit.
We had a little bit of money where I could be like, all right, I could take off.
I only had, I think, one or two employees, so it wasn't such a big deal kind of internally in what we do.
And I was like, I don't know, like, I'm in this news cycle all the time, 24-hour news cycle, and blah, blah, blah, and Twitter, and everything's getting faster.
I was like, let me just do it as a joke.
And it really was a joke, and the first, Like, five days that I did it, I was freaking out, and you feel phantom buzzing in your pocket.
Literally, like, you feel buzzing in your pocket, and like, you start wondering, like, oh my God, will the world be here when I get back, and what have I missed, and all that stuff.
And then when I came back, I just kind of felt refreshed, and then I did it a second time, and I felt more refreshed, and then a third time, and the third time, I think, I think it was the third time, was really the most important one, because I had considered myself an atheist for at least, five to seven years or so, and I came back
and I no longer felt I was an atheist.
Like, that's pretty powerful.
There were several things that went into that.
And then over the last couple years, just as like, as I guess the success
or the whatever it is has grown, and the craziness has grown.
Again, it was like, I'm sure nobody's talking about the assassination attempt anymore.
That would be my guess.
I'm sure nobody's talking about most of the nonce, the coup.
It's like it's all happening so fast.
We're all responding to it so fast.
We're on this thing all the time.
Like, when I was at the beach, we did two weeks in Mexico in the rainforest.
sage steele
Okay, so this is the first time we're all learning where you were.
Two weeks in a rainforest in Mexico.
dave rubin
Yeah, so the first week we were home and I was just playing with the kids and just trying to do a few house projects and just like deal with life stuff.
And then we were like, all right, for two weeks we're just going to go away.
We're in a rainforest in a tree house.
Beach, like, perfect.
Food, perfect.
Just perfection.
But I'm watching all these people.
Weather's beautiful.
All of these people sitting on the beach, just staring at their phones, endlessly scrolling.
Or on planes.
Everywhere you go, everyone is like this.
Now, I know we all know this.
Like, I'm not reinventing the wheel by telling you this.
But, like, when you step away from it for a little while, and you just see people staring.
When I was on the plane, when we were going to Mexico, there was a guy that had the new Apple VR thing, whatever it is,
the Apple, whatever it's called, and he was wearing it for a five hour flight.
sage steele
Oh, that cannot be good for your brain.
dave rubin
No, cannot be good for your brain, and I kid you not, when he got up,
I wasn't looking at anything, right?
So I wasn't looking at screens or anything, so I kept looking at him like I just thought
it was so bizarre, I'm watching this guy, thinking like, what the hell, is he playing video games?
Is he watching porn?
Like, what the hell is this guy doing?
And when he got up, he was sitting with his wife, and she clearly was not thrilled
that he was lost in VR land, but when he got up to go to the bathroom,
he looked like he was drunk, you know what I mean?
Because you're just immersed in this lunacy, and that's what we are all.
Subjected to with the news and the scrolling and it's like picture of a baby terrorist attack this political thing happened There's an avalanche over here and it's just it's doing something very very weird to our brains and I feel I feel like I've gotten like a very good Reset here.
sage steele
I feel calmer, you know, it is embarrassing when I think we I Look at ourselves, reflect with this in our hand, you know?
And then when you look around, we gotta change it, we have to do it.
But you did the ultimate, you took the ultimate step to go deep in this, in the rainforest, in the middle of nowhere.
Tell me, I think everybody here in the studio would agree that when you walked in, you had this very calm energy about you, and a genuine, you always have a genuine smile on your face, your skin looks great, really annoying actually.
dave rubin
I did a mud mask last night.
sage steele
But you said it's changed you in past years.
Did it change you this year?
dave rubin
Well, we did have one crazy... I mean, you have a crazy experience every day when you're off the grid, really, because you're just present all the time, right?
And again, because I wasn't really around adults, I was just around kids.
And it's kind of funny being around kids all the time, because when you do the political thing, it's nonsense all the time, right?
Crazy BS.
This one lied about that.
It's chasing, trying to find truth and make sense out of something.
When you're with kids, like, it's all real.
All the time.
All the time.
Hungry, gotta poop.
Like, it is real, you know.
Putting their heads in the dirt and you gotta clean up this and that and the other thing, but it makes sense.
It all makes sense.
So I think that was like sort of the meta version of what I took away.
But I'll tell you one thing that happened that I don't know where I'm going to put this in my life or something, but something genuinely life-changing happened actually.
So we were in Mexico and we went to a sweat lodge.
They call it, I think it's called the Temezcal Ceremony.
So picture you're in a giant kind of clay hut.
And it was just David and I and there's basically he's not a shaman actually but a shaman type person and one other guy and you go in...
And they bring in all of these coals, and they steam the hell out of the place, and it's pitch black, so they cover the top.
So for an hour and a half, you're in this room.
It is basically as hot as you can possibly imagine, like your skin almost burning off, you drenched with sweat, you cannot see anything.
You kind of start to hallucinate.
At one point, I saw a horse run by me, and I saw strange lights in front of me.
Yeah, not on drugs, no drugs whatsoever.
unidentified
No ayahuasca.
dave rubin
No drinking, no ayahuasca, no weed, nothing.
And they're chanting and they have different sounds that they're playing and all of this stuff.
And we do this for about an hour and a half and we get out.
And then later that day, and it was just like unbelievable, like you get out and your heart is pounding as if you just did the hardest workout of your life.
Like basically, I got out and I just fell to the floor.
I don't have any pictures of this, of course, because we didn't have phones.
But just fell to the floor and just like, I just felt like my brain had been blown apart and whatever.
Now, that's not even the cool part yet.
So later that day we're in our little tree house and we have a little hot tub there and it's like like I don't know 100 or 200 feet above sea level so the beach is below us unbelievable view of the ocean and we're having like one of the I would say one of the most important conversations we've ever had just talking about our lives and how far we've come and what we want to do in terms of raising the kids and how we want to be as parents and that we've had such a great run and it feels like it's changing now because now the kids are becoming, they're like more human now too, you know?
It's like there's some new thing happening, like we really, like it was probably the most important conversation David and I had ever had.
Wow.
And as we're having this conversation, I can't describe this properly because we didn't have a phone, there's just no photographic evidence of it, two huge black vultures descended on our treehouse, and they sat in front of each of us.
So we're kind of, we're in a little hot tub about eight feet wide.
One basically perches right in front of David on the banister, one perches right in front of me, and they're just staring at us.
Just absolutely big, like big black vultures.
At least this big.
Huge.
Claws that look like dinosaurs, like, yeah.
The whole thing.
And they're just staring at us.
Just absolutely staring at us.
And one's staring at David and one's staring at me.
I kid you not.
And they did not cross.
They're just staring at us.
And David, he's a little more into some of the spiritual side of things and everything.
And he starts kind of talking to the vulture.
Like, are you here for a reason?
Like, what's going on here?
And again, we're having like the most important conversation we've ever had.
so mentally, spiritually, we're just as open as we could be.
And he's kind of asking the vulture, like, what's going on here?
And as he's asking the vulture questions, it kind of seems like it's nodding and walking certain ways.
And then he's like, he had been talking a lot about his grandma, Rose, who had passed away.
And he said, maybe this vulture is my grandma, Rose.
And he said, Grandma Rose, if that's you, give me a sign.
And then I swear to God, may lightning strike me right now.
The second he said that, the vulture jumped down.
Now it's like two feet away from him.
And we had tequila, two glasses of tequila on each side, you know, one on each side for each of us.
The vulture goes to the glass of tequila and starts drinking out of the tequila.
His grandma Rose enjoyed to drink.
unidentified
No.
dave rubin
Let's put it that way.
She was a bit of a drinker.
Yeah, she was the life of the party, a bit of a drinker, and started literally drinking tequila out of the glass.
sage steele
A vulture started drinking David's tequila?
unidentified
A vulture started drinking tequila out of the glass.
dave rubin
No drugs were involved in any of this or anything else.
Anyway, then we just continued to kind of ask it questions, and David sort of wrapped up the conversation with that vulture, and then he was asking me, he's like, is there anything you're trying to communicate to this vulture, or is this vulture trying to communicate something to you?
And I'm not like, that's just not fully my thing, kinda.
So David was like, maybe I should try to communicate with the vulture.
unidentified
And again, I swear on my life.
dave rubin
I swear on my life.
The vulture that was on my side, the second he says that, it jumps over to his banister, standing next to the bird.
Oh, and his vulture then turned around.
His vulture, because it was done, whatever he needed to do with that vulture, his vulture was done, so now it's staring off into the horizon.
And then just my vulture, now staring at the two of us.
What?
Anyway, I'm probably not even explaining it properly in some sense.
sage steele
No, you are.
dave rubin
I have actually a perfect visual.
Oh, okay.
So then we just kind of let it be.
We're like, all right.
sage steele
Wait, did you say something to the bullshit?
dave rubin
So I did.
I did say something about how I felt that a certain chapter in my life was ending, and maybe there was this new beginning coming, and something like that.
But I'm not like, this is why I wanted you to do this today, because I knew you'd be better at the non-political stuff than just drag.
And anyway, then they literally fly off at the exact same time.
So then that night, we go to dinner, and the bartender comes up to us.
We're sitting at the bar, and I said to the bartender, you're not going to believe what happened.
He's like, how was your day?
And I was like, well, actually, something completely insane happened.
We went to the Temescal.
We have this crazy ceremony, sweat lodge, everything that we get.
Two big black poachers.
He gets his phone out.
He's like, did they look like this?
And he shows a picture of the black vulture.
And it was the exact same black vulture.
And apparently these black vultures, they're like a very, very deeply spiritual animal in Mexico.
And they represent the ending of one phase and the beginning of another.
Because a vulture, what does a vulture do?
A vulture eats the carcass of an animal to then sort of continue the circle of life and all of that stuff.
So that was just like one utterly insane thing.
sage steele
It sounds like a movie.
dave rubin
But I think it was only because we were open enough.
sage steele
Only after being in the sweat thing for 90 minutes and coming out and feeling drained and exhausted, which means you were, and I believe in that stuff too, and that your heart, frankly, was open to receiving messages.
Because if I see a vulture that close to me right now, I'm out.
dave rubin
Well, that's the thing.
We did have a moment right when they got there.
We were like, they're like three feet away from us at first.
And they have huge freaking claws.
Huge claws.
sage steele
And so it's like from you to me?
dave rubin
Yeah, like basically this distance.
Oh, and they're, you know, they kind of tap their claws too.
Like it's like Jurassic Park.
And David looked at me at one point and he was like, I guess they could attack us, but I'm not worried.
And I wasn't worried either.
Like I had no fear that they were going to like gouge our eyes out or anything.
Anyway, that was one, obviously... Last thing, I'm sorry.
sage steele
See, now I'm in.
dave rubin
Politics doesn't matter.
sage steele
What, then, do you take from that moment as you come back and, you know, get used to this life again for the next year?
What do you take from that moment with the vultures and your husband?
dave rubin
Well, that was, I think, like, it was the full sign of what we were talking about, which was that we've come very far, we're secure financially, I made it Successfully here.
I work with great people.
We've built a great life.
We have a great home.
We have great friends.
One thing that I was thinking about a lot all month is, you know what?
I was thinking about, you know the Lou Gehrig speech, I'm the luckiest man alive?
I actually was thinking that.
I have everything that I need.
I don't need anything else, I don't want anything else, all that.
That's a crazy thing to say, and I don't even mean it like I'm patting myself on the back.
I mean it like, God, what a tenuous, nutty thing to, I have a great relationship, I have great kids, I work with great people.
Don't fear that I can't eat lunch today.
All of that stuff.
I do this.
I do what I want to do.
I wake up and do what I want to do.
And I guess it was a long time working to get that.
But now there's a new phase coming, to answer your question.
And the new phase is really like the father part of it.
I thought a lot about that.
When you just spend that amount of time with kids day in day out, that you want to fill them up with all of the right things and the good things.
Probably very few of those things were happening in the news and all that kind of stuff.
sage steele
But I feel like gratitude.
unidentified
Gratitude!
dave rubin
That was the word.
That was the word that was popping in my head all the time.
sage steele
And for you to come in and then I got to witness everyone so happy, your team happy to see you and you genuinely happy to see them.
I feel like you're always like that but maybe it's another level because of what happened.
A moment that will never happen again.
dave rubin
I don't think the vulture thing is going to happen again.
And I did realize that this year, you know, like all my guys got to take adventures.
Phoenix was in Thailand, and Joey was in Greece, and Adi was in Budapest and got engaged, and Connor got to go home.
sage steele
I thought I saw a sparkly ring on her finger.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
She got engaged.
Yay!
And Brock went to Scotland.
So that was also part of it, that I've built something that allows people that I work with and love to also live the best life that they can do.
And I just want to kind of hold that and expand that and nourish that.
sage steele
And you're doing it.
And I just need to say, and then we can go on, because you see all this.
There's a lot that's happening.
dave rubin
Then you can tell me who the VP is.
unidentified
I just love that you don't know that.
sage steele
It is very rare, and I've been in this insane broadcasting business for 29 years.
All corporate media until the last year.
Now we can be human.
This doesn't happen.
Having you as a leader does not happen.
So I know everybody in this room appreciates it.
It is a blessing.
So just, if you won't give yourself a pat on the back, I will, and we will.
Because when you create a team around you and you want them to go take time for themselves and not worry just about you, you get that back tenfold.
And so it's a beautiful thing you've created.
dave rubin
Yeah.
unidentified
Where's my tequila, for God's sake?
Yeah, now if a vulture lands in here, we'll know that something really is going on.
dave rubin
So amazing, thank you for sharing.
So that sort of led it to this morning, where for the first time in coming back from all of these, and all the other years that I've done it, it's just been like, oh, had a great August, let's get rolling again.
And we roll out, I saw, I haven't even, these new graphics that we just showed in the intro, I haven't even seen all of that stuff yet, and the music and all of this new stuff, and I know there's some other things that I have in store, I guess are gonna be surprises to me shortly.
Lots of surprises.
But like, this was the first time that walking into the studio this morning, I felt something a little more...
richer deep than just, oh, we're starting up again.
sage steele
Oh, we can feel it.
So watch out 2024, 2025.
Let's get us through till November 5th or 7th, whatever the hell date that is, right?
We need to pray to get to there.
Okay, so this is what we're gonna do.
And thank you.
Can we continue the vulture talk later on tequila on our own?
dave rubin
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
sage steele
I'll treat, okay.
So I'm gonna break down all the news to you in four segments.
So 2024 election news, and there's a lot.
We gotta start there.
dave rubin
thing right? Okay wait before you tell me the VP now?
unidentified
No!
dave rubin
Oh, okay.
sage steele
Not yet.
dave rubin
Oh, okay, okay.
sage steele
Are you trying to control your show?
dave rubin
No, no, all right, you go ahead.
You're the host.
You're the host.
You see what happened?
Now I'm all the way back.
sage steele
He's like, wait, yeah, no.
I'm just giving you, like, a warning of what's to come.
So we're gonna do election news, then we're gonna do additional political news, because there's a lot on the side besides what's happening for the run for the White House.
Some bad faith actors news, and we gotta do some pop culture, right?
dave rubin
Okay.
sage steele
I know you've missed it.
dave rubin
Oh yes, I have missed the pop.
sage steele
You missed it, yes.
Of the culture.
But first things first, we do have one of many surprises for you to officially welcome you back.
unidentified
Oh.
Hey everyone, there's a few things you can count on in September.
NFL and college football being back, students returning from school, and Dave Rubin returning from his isolation.
Dave, welcome back.
sage steele
Dave, you are so back.
dave rubin
It was getting ghetto without you here.
You were missed.
unidentified
Dave, it's PRIMETIME99 Alex Stein.
We have missed you for the last month.
It is time to get back to work.
We got to save the country somehow, someway.
sage steele
They're gonna steal this election.
unidentified
We need you to call it out before they do it, Dave.
So time to get back to work.
We've missed you.
Pimp on a Blimp says, let's go.
dave rubin
Hey Dave, welcome back.
unidentified
I didn't know you were gone.
I didn't know you were back.
dave rubin
But, you know, welcome back.
unidentified
Dave, welcome back to the grid.
We've missed you.
The grid's not the same without you.
It's not even really properly a grid.
It's pretty amazing that you still manage to make content when you're not on that grid.
You're not being away from the grid.
You're all over that grid.
You're a cube.
You're a square.
You're a part of the grid.
Hey Dave, welcome back from being off the grid.
Big things are happening.
I am no longer the black face of white supremacy.
I'm transitioning.
Welcome back.
Hey Dave, welcome back.
I'm delighted to be the one to tell you that Lawrence v. Texas has been overturned, but don't worry, I'll be glad to visit you in jail.
Dave, welcome back.
A lot of news happened, but forget about all that.
The most important news?
I got my lesbian glasses again.
Hey Dave, heard you were on Skid Row.
Just wanted to know that there's people out there who care for you and want you back in the world.
Lots of love.
dave rubin
Dave, we miss you.
unidentified
Where you been?
The whole world is falling apart.
Look, I'm here at Valuetainment right now about to do a massive event.
We're all asking, where the hell's Ruben?
Where's Ruben?
He's on vacation.
He's checked out for a month.
We miss you.
Welcome back.
Excited to have you back.
Hey Dave, so glad you're back on the grid, but I have sad news for you and hold on to something tight or anybody.
robert f kennedy-jr
I think this time it's final.
I'm sorry I had to be the one.
unidentified
I did not see this coming.
They look so perfect.
But that's what I got.
That's what you missed.
Well, hey Dave, welcome back.
You know, you might have missed a couple of things since you were last stateside or wherever you were.
I just hope you had a great time.
I'm jealous, but things are happening so fast.
Since you left, we probably had about 14 or so you'll-remember-where-you-were-when kind of moments, but more coming, so we're glad you're here to help us sort it out.
Welcome back, Dave.
I know the big Kamala news came out before you did your boycott on social media, but guess what?
So you didn't miss anything.
Welcome back, Dave.
As you can see, the country has not burned to the ground yet.
But I emphasize the word yet.
Anyway, it'll be fine.
Welcome back.
Dave, welcome back, man.
I hope you got a ton of sleep, because between now and the end of the year, it's about to get weird.
theo von
Welcome back.
unidentified
Dave, welcome back.
It's Alex Michelson in California.
During your time away, this state finally cut taxes, cut regulation, and dealt with the root causes of homelessness.
dave rubin
Not quite.
unidentified
Maybe next year.
Dave Rubin was gone?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Bye.
Bye.
Thank you.
dave rubin
Welcome back, Dave.
unidentified
Don't worry, you didn't miss much.
theo von
Welcome back to the grid, Dave.
unidentified
The world somehow managed to survive while you were offline.
I hope you at least enjoyed a nice margarita in a certain nice treetop bar.
Welcome back, Dave.
Hope you had a good time away, and I hope you ate a lot of red meat, a lot of good steaks and burgers, maybe some raw milk while you were away, because you're gonna need your strength when you hear about what has happened since you've been gone.
But the good news is, there is now a national... That's a great thing.
Welcome back, Dave.
theo von
Hello, Dave.
unidentified
I hope I have grown to be a good and trusted friend.
theo von
And if so, take my advice.
unidentified
You don't have any idea what happened in the last 30 days.
theo von
Stay unplugged, Dave.
unidentified
Stay unplugged!
As-salamu alaykum, Dave.
Welcome back from your holiday.
It's your friend, Winston Marshall, greeting you from the Islamic People's Republic of England, the United Kingdom.
Two months into Sir Keir Starmer.
Peace be upon him.
His premiership and it's, it's been flawless.
No, no notes really.
So Dave, welcome back from your six month vacation.
I mean, it's only a month, but during election year, a month is six months, maybe even longer.
Obviously, nothing's happened the last month.
dave rubin
There's been nothing to cover anyways.
unidentified
And by the way, this whole life of rich and famous you're living, as you're getting famous
and rich and wealthy, do not forget the small people in your life who are wanting to hear
what you have to say about all the crazy things that have been going on in the last month.
It's good to see you coming back and getting to work.
Take care, buddy.
Hey Dave, welcome back.
Hope your time off the grid has made you like the great monastics and scholars and Frankly, anyone who lived before the internet, back in the past, better able to see and live true to what really matters.
Onward and upward.
Dave, welcome back.
Boy, have we missed you.
You know, I'm in Israel now.
I'm coming back tonight.
Been here the whole summer.
Taking shots at all our favorite bad guys.
Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran.
You know, all the guys that we don't like.
And doing it without you, buddy.
So, let's get back together and do great things.
Hey, man.
Heard you got sniffed at the DNC, and that's why you were gone this entire time.
So glad you got that taken care of.
And now that you're back, you know, you could ease right back into things.
We're expecting a pretty quiet couple of months.
Don't think the news is going to be all that crazy.
So very glad to have you back on the grid.
sage steele
Oh, hey, Dave.
Remember that time that you said I was the best Uber and Lyft driver ever?
Yeah, I do.
She didn't tip me.
And then when I told you I was moving down to the free state of Florida to be your neighbor, I mean, kind of, I can't quite afford that, but you know, someday, you have hashtag goals, and you said, whatever you need, and I'm like, yeah, I need help packing.
This is a disaster.
Where are you, Dave?
unidentified
I know, yeah, one more thing, maybe the most egregious.
sage steele
Twice now, you've offered to make me your specialty, Wagyu.
I'm hungry.
Where's my steak?
Where are you, Dave Rubin?
I have a lot of questions, and I'm about to get some answers from you.
Like, now.
unidentified
P.S.
sage steele
I like it medium rare.
unidentified
Wow.
sage steele
You have a lot of friends in the business.
dave rubin
Wow, look at that.
I feel like this is my retirement show now.
sage steele
This is it.
Actually, he's dead and that's what we're going to show.
dave rubin
This is a pre-tape.
sage steele
I actually was eaten by the vulture.
Real quick, can we explain the bleeping, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
sage steele
Because at the end of the day, it was, hey, quick video.
I didn't listen.
I'm sorry.
It was way too long.
Sorry, Phoenix.
And you're not supposed to give the news.
This is all a surprise, and everybody's giving the news.
So I thought it was brilliant.
They just bleeped everything out, that Kilmeade and PBD said.
You just got to bleep it out, because I get to break the news.
dave rubin
I have a cracked step.
Do you feel loved?
I thought, since the Kilmeade one was the first one with the bleep, I thought that was him just being funny.
Yeah, me too!
And now I see what's going on here.
sage steele
It's Phoenix cussing all of us out.
dave rubin
I guess I missed some stuff.
sage steele
You missed some stuff.
Are you ready?
dave rubin
Alright, ease me back in.
sage steele
Oh no.
There's no easing you back in.
I mean, you kind of know where we have to start, right?
dave rubin
Well, I assume that Kamala is still the Democratic nominee for president.
sage steele
She's still there.
dave rubin
And there was a coup that I assume no one's talking about anymore.
sage steele
I like that you still say Kamala, by the way.
Yeah.
On August 6th, 2024.
dave rubin
Oh, is that racist?
It's racist to call her Kamala?
sage steele
She's Kamala?
It's definitely racist, yes.
August 6th, 2024.
That was the day that Kamala Harris named her running mate.
dave rubin
Are we gonna, are we?
sage steele
Yeah, I'm just making sure.
dave rubin
Do you want to guess?
Yeah.
sage steele
Go.
dave rubin
Well, my guess before the day when I did my goodbye show, I thought it was going to be Josh Shapiro, who's the governor of Pennsylvania, swing state.
He comes off as a bit of a moderate, so I thought that made the most sense.
The only thing that I can guess is that it's not, maybe it's him, maybe it's him, I don't know.
But the only thing I guess is it can't be Gavin Newsom because too many people came up to me at the airport or whatever being like, Dave, you're off the grid, blah, blah, blah.
But I feel like if it had been Gavin Newsom, there's just no way people could have hid that from me, like at Whole Foods.
sage steele
There would have been an implosion.
dave rubin
And I also think spiritually, I would have felt something, guys.
I would have felt a disturbance in the force.
So my guess is it's Josh Shapiro.
That would be, yeah.
But I don't think it really matters.
They're just all interchangeable nothings, so.
sage steele
I think it kind of matters, and the answer is no.
It's not Josh Shapiro, and many people say that's because he's Jewish and all the things that are happening over in Israel, Gaza, etc.
So not Josh.
dave rubin
Hamas-supporting basis.
sage steele
It is, drumroll please, the 41st governor of the North Star State of Minnesota.
Tim Walz is the running mate to be the vice president if and when Kamala Harris ends up calling 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue her home.
Tim Walz, your reaction?
ends up calling 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue her home.
Tim Walz, your reaction.
Wow, that's- Did you know who he was?
dave rubin
Like, I guess I sorta know the name.
What did I just say, Wentz?
Like, I know he's somebody.
sage steele
Yeah.
dave rubin
Like, he's just kind of, what is he, 65 and white?
sage steele
White, yes, definitely.
Governor since 2019.
I mean, very, very left.
For example, when we've talked about the transgender issue and kids and cutting off body parts and stuff and having parents have a say in that.
He said he would veto anything that came to his desk.
dave rubin
Yeah, so they really went that direction.
sage steele
They went all the way.
dave rubin
They did not go, we're going to pretend.
Like, at least with Kamala the first time it was pretending, or with Biden it was pretending, and then Kamala kind of supposedly moderated a little bit from her really Marxist stuff.
I mean, it doesn't matter.
Like, I can't say that that moved me emotionally or politically in any way whatsoever.
It just doesn't matter.
They're just interchangeable parts.
Like, it's just like, oh, you just took another one of these people who is just part of the—like, are people excited about this?
sage steele
Well, there was a lot of Googling.
dave rubin
Yeah.
sage steele
Like, who is he?
Yeah.
And there was some disappointment, I think, fair to say, when Shapiro was not chosen.
And then you thought, gosh, well, that would have been smart, based on him being outspoken about being a Jew, but also just an Pennsylvania, of all states.
I mean, arguably the most important state for either candidate to win.
And she went away from him.
dave rubin
So what's the narrative?
That's what I was thinking a lot about over the month, was what narratives will I have missed?
Because it's not really about what happens, right?
Like, it's not like, oh, she chose Tim Wentz, Wiltz, what's his name?
Waltz, whatever.
Tim Waltz, yes.
It literally does not matter.
They're just cogs in a system.
You could have picked any one of these people.
They are all the same.
They're barely people.
They're NPCs, non-playable characters.
That's what they are.
sage steele
Yeah, no, you're right.
dave rubin
So I'm more interested in the narrative around it.
Is the narrative like, oh, the progressives are here now, they've taken over the party, there's the energy, and like, is that it?
sage steele
So a lot of energy that we'll talk about that we felt, we, they, whomever out there in the stratosphere, especially during the Democratic National Convention, and energy and joy, joy.
That was the key word out of Chicago.
It was just joy.
There was a lot of joy, and we'll leave that there until we get there.
One thing that, I mean, Walz has been kind of, well, kind of, not just kind of crushed, Because of this stolen valor issue.
So basically, he enlisted at 17, Army National Guard.
He served for 24 years, and he did well.
Command Sergeant Major.
But he also talked about being a war veteran.
He did not go to war.
That's a big deal.
You don't accidentally say that.
unidentified
Ever.
sage steele
And we've seen this before.
I mean, you've heard about, you know, coaches in the past.
This is a man who's now running for the second most powerful position in our country.
And, of course, he didn't say that recently, but it's documented.
Has he walked it back?
He has tried to walk it back, which, again, we can listen to a little bit later.
But people are pissed.
I mean, rightfully so.
Veterans, there's a difference.
And by the way, people have been very grateful.
Thank you for your 24 years of service.
That absolutely matters, representing our country.
But my dad served 23 years.
West Point, career Army officer, colonel.
One thing my dad struggles with is that he actually never went to war. He was not called up to go to Vietnam coming
out of West Point and nothing you know with Operation Iraqi Freedom anything else and he
actually has guilt for that because it feels like he never fully went out with his brothers and
defended our country. This guy pretended like he did and was fine with it.
unidentified
Right.
sage steele
And that's, that's an issue.
So that's the biggest topic, I think, that has surrounded him ever since.
He came to the DNC and gave, you know, an interesting speech, but, um, it's, it's the why, why behind him.
And it's, I think, because she can remain that person.
She can remain the big dog.
She can remain Kamala.
dave rubin
So you just kind of choose a nobody in a weird way to make it like she is this thing?
sage steele
Because if it had been Gavin, I mean, there would have been all the attention on him and I think even as well with Shapiro a little bit.
dave rubin
Yeah, you know, as I said, I really, I tried not to think about politics when I was gone.
I had to train my brain a little bit, right, because this is what I do all the time and what people want to talk to me about and all that.
But as I said, I was thinking about the narrative stuff and around her it's like, so I'm guessing the whole thing about the Biden coup is just done, like it's not even discussed anymore.
unidentified
Disgust.
dave rubin
It's maddening.
It's like we forget about the assassination attempt.
sage steele
Correct.
dave rubin
But now also that they literally installed this woman when above their, like, I really did think about that.
Like, what do you really do with that?
Like, and it's just gone.
And that's where you have to give the machine credit.
sage steele
The Democrats are brilliant.
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
You gotta give them credit.
You may not like what they do.
It's the alien from the alien movies that I'm always on about.
You may not like what the alien does, but the doctor on the ship likes the alien.
He respects him because he's mercilessly accomplishing what he wants to accomplish.
They pulled off a coup and now no one talks about it.
No one talks about it.
And now Tim Wentz?
sage steele
Well, there was some talk leading up to it that it would be Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan, which would have been interesting to women.
That would have been disastrous in many ways, but they would have, you know, for those people who like the low-hanging fruit and just the bullet points that MSNBC or anybody will drop, oh my gosh, two women.
It's already historic with Kamala.
A woman.
A woman of color.
And a woman VP?
Oh my God.
So, thank goodness it wasn't her, and that would have been, I mean as far as her politics and her policies, it probably would have been equal to Mr. Walz.
So, yeah, not too much excitement, but they're crushing him on the fact that, you know, stolen valor.
There's a lot of things you can get away with.
Not that.
Don't do that.
dave rubin
Period.
The thing is, and trust me now that I stepped away for a month that you see, is that they can lie and lie and lie and lie and all we can do in a weird way is know that they're lying, right?
Like that's almost, in some ways, that's the best you can do.
You can know that they're lying, you can make fun of it and everything else.
But in a weird way, they win constantly because we are just in, we're in like a vortex
with these people who will lie about literally everything.
And everyone watching this knows, from very fine people and the list goes on and on.
And they lie and lie about everything.
And all we're doing, because the rest of us that are just like
decent human beings, are just trying to live our life.
So because we're not obsessed by that thing, that like shiny lie machine or whatever you wanna call it,
they will just drag us to hell with them.
So I'm glad maybe if some of the lies occasionally get exposed a little bit faster.
sage steele
But no one cares.
There were countless lies told in Chicago for the DNC.
I mean, Joe Biden got up there and spoke.
I mean, there were so many lies.
dave rubin
Oh, Joe Biden spoke at the DNC?
They brought him out there.
sage steele
He did speak.
Yes, and there's a story around that, too.
unidentified
Oh, God.
Oh, yeah.
sage steele
But, like, there's so many lies told, but nobody cared.
Because why?
Because there was joy.
It was a beautiful thing.
Okay, a couple other things.
July 31st, you had just gone off the grid.
dave rubin
Okay.
unidentified
Ms.
sage steele
Carrie Lake, she won her Senate GOP primary in Arizona.
dave rubin
Oh, I guess I missed that.
That was my last day, okay.
sage steele
Was that your last day, the 31st?
31st was my last day, yeah.
Not a shock to me that she won, but now her next challenge will be certainly more of a challenge.
This one, a week later, a member of the squad officially lost her primary.
dave rubin
Oh God, so this is good.
Something good actually happened?
Wait, wait.
A member of the squad.
The only one who was running.
Well, I know Ilhan was running because of that crazy rally.
Rashida, I don't think was... No, wait.
They were all running the same year.
Oh, God.
Please tell me it's one of the... Cori Bush.
Oh, Cori Bush.
Well, she's just like a slightly less evil.
She's just like a stupider version of them.
Slightly less evil.
Okay, fine.
sage steele
Would I rather be called less evil or stupid?
I don't know.
dave rubin
No, she's just like the stupid one.
So she lost.
All right, I would have preferred one of the evil ones, but oh, that's great, that's great, we got rid of Jamal Bowman, we got rid of her, all right, all right.
sage steele
Big deal.
dave rubin
Wow, something good did happen.
sage steele
Eight days later, eight days later, back down, Ilhan Omar, she won.
unidentified
Yes.
sage steele
Again, I guess we're not shocked with some of these people because when you... If she's gotten to this point, there's obviously way too many people who not only trust her, but choose to overlook true evil, actually.
dave rubin
She also married her brother, but I guess they're not too worried about that.
sage steele
No big deal.
dave rubin
Who are we to judge?
sage steele
I know, I know.
We're not going to be, at least not today, for the next hour, we're not going to be judging.
dave rubin
All right, but I'll take that as a net win.
I wouldn't, you know, great.
sage steele
I mean, overall, overall, yes.
Okay, so the state of the U.S.
presidency.
Again, a lot to dive into with this one.
So we're going to start here.
Russia to release, has released, Wall Street Journal reporter, also former Marine, in a prisoner swap.
So some, I can't even see, look, this is where you're not quite.
So, fascinating, right?
Because there's no movement, but then all of a sudden we have the reporter released and a former Marine in a prisoner swap.
Your first reaction.
dave rubin
Well, what did we swap them for?
sage steele
What did we swap them for?
unidentified
Wouldn't I need to know that?
sage steele
Well, we're still learning exactly what we swapped them for, but it was interesting because Joe Biden boarded a plane back to Moscow during the hostage exchange.
So take a look at this video here because it was actually a very confusing moment here So US citizens freed from Russia.
Joe Biden gets on the plane, Dave.
dave rubin
We're leaving and he gets... This is the day I got off the grid, so it's day one.
sage steele
And he gets on the plane and Kamala and everybody standing there like, wait, what's going on?
What's going on?
He realized it and they came back off the plane, but no one, everybody was afraid to go up and grab him.
He just wandered off on his own on the plane.
dave rubin
So that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the swap itself, that's just a general Biden-like... Well, that's a Biden-ism, yes, yes.
That is one thing that I did think about a bit, like how much are they gonna hide him?
I'm shocked that he spoke to the DNC.
sage steele
Well, yeah, and we'll get to that.
He absolutely has been hidden.
dave rubin
What an utter fiasco.
sage steele
So you're in the middle of trying to figure this out and swap prisoners, and then Biden just goes off on his own, so.
dave rubin
But just to be clear, so there was a reporter and a Marine.
sage steele
And a Marine.
dave rubin
And we don't know what we traded them for.
sage steele
That we received back.
No.
Am I missing it?
Do we know?
Right now, no.
No.
I'm sure it's not good.
The transparency of the presidency of the White House, no.
But in the meantime, you have the leader of the free world, right, just wandering off.
And to me, we talked about this before, it's a little bit heartbreaking, a little bit sad to see that happening.
And everybody just stands there and allows it to happen and doesn't even help the poor man.
dave rubin
Maybe this is not the deeply spiritual part of my month off, but I'm kind of over the sad part of Joe Biden.
This is all so evil.
It was a coup.
They're pushing this guy.
He's not in charge.
It's so obvious.
Maybe I just spent enough time away that I am so behind that curtain right now.
sage steele
He was on your schedule.
Because vacation actually is just now reappearing apparently.
And speaking of the coup, it's so interesting because Miss Nancy Pelosi, like we always
thought what was happening behind the scenes is that people like Nancy were kind of, you
know, pecking away saying, hey, something has to happen.
She actually, she actually opened up about it, about her.
I think he's been really a fantastic president of the United States.
race. And President Joe Biden, a couple days later, actually confirmed that he was pushed
out by top Democrats who apparently staged this coup. We eventually did hear from the
president about it.
dave rubin
Oh, my God.
nancy pelosi
I love him so much. I think he's been really a fantastic president of the United States.
So I really wanted him to make a decision of a better campaign because they were not
facing the fact of what was happening.
Just a little background.
I've never been that impressed with his political operation.
unidentified
Biden's operation.
Yeah, I'm not.
nancy pelosi
I mean, I just haven't.
They won the White House.
Bravo.
But so my concern was this ain't happening.
And we have to make a decision for this to happen, and the president has to make the decision for that to happen.
Let me just say, I won't say necessarily I knew what I was doing at that time.
I knew what I was doing in the whole thing, not just that show.
unidentified
And what was that?
nancy pelosi
That Donald Trump would never set foot in the White House again.
unidentified
Look, the polls we had showed that it was neck and neck race.
We would have been down on the wire.
joe biden
But what happened was a number of my Democratic colleagues in the House and Senate thought that I was going to hurt them in the races.
unidentified
And I was concerned if I stayed in the race, that would be the topic.
You'd be interviewing me about why did Nancy Pelosi say, why did so and I thought it'd be a real distraction.
dave rubin
God, it's so pathetic.
It's so profoundly pathetic, having stepped away from it for a little while.
sage steele
She flat out admitted, I will do whatever it takes to make sure Donald Trump does not return to the White House.
And then he acknowledged it there, too.
dave rubin
You don't have to admire what they do, but you have to admire how they do it.
I mean, it was legitimately a coup.
They pushed that man.
And also, again, I have no sympathy anymore for Joe Biden.
I'm so past that.
sage steele
I know.
I need to be tougher.
dave rubin
No, no, no.
I have sympathy for people that have cognitive issues and all that stuff, and everyone gets there one day and we've all had grandparents and all that, but I'm so over that thing.
The reason it's evil is they are saying to their voters, we don't give a flying F about you.
Correct.
steal it, we'll do what we gotta do, and you will eat it up.
And then their voters are like, yes, we will eat it up.
Because I'm guessing, and I swear to God, I have no sense.
I'm guessing the polls are either neck and neck right now, or Kamala's up a little bit.
Because that sounds good to the machine.
sage steele
It depends which poll, but basically, a dead even heat at this point.
Yep.
dave rubin
Oh, evil and evil.
sage steele
But for a person who never, yeah, and not a single primary vote, nothing.
She is just magically there.
It's incredible.
Also incredible, depends on who you ask, was the DNC.
The convention in Chicago started on August 19th, and I need you to be prepared to grasp how the first headline to come out of Chicago, and I thought it was fake.
Just outside of, what is it, United Center, wherever is what, downtown Chicago.
A truck.
A couple of trucks.
Free abortions.
Free vasectomies.
Just outside of the festivities.
So if you're there to celebrate Kamala and Tim Walz, And you found out you're knocked up?
It's okay, just get an abortion.
Right outside in a truck and a vasectomy.
dave rubin
They didn't throw free Palestine in there too?
Free abortions, free vasectomy, free Palestine.
sage steele
All of the above was present at the DNC.
I thought it was, that sounds fake.
It sounds like a fake headline.
Free abortions in a truck outside?
It was real, Dave.
dave rubin
I fully believe it.
sage steele
You believe it?
dave rubin
Like, I don't think you're punking me.
I don't think you're punking me.
sage steele
Okay, okay.
I was shocked and appalled.
And so the first full day was that Monday, and that is when Joe Biden spoke.
Now, usually the last day is Kamala on Thursday, Donald Trump on Thursday of the RNC.
So they took the sitting president and put him on Monday.
It was also supposed to start, you know, prime time.
He didn't take the podium until, what, 11.20 p.m.
Eastern Time, when he's told people he's got to go to bed by 8 o'clock.
Like, it was shocking.
dave rubin
Do we have video?
How bad was it?
How bad was it?
unidentified
Do we have video of Biden?
dave rubin
No, it's all right.
sage steele
You don't need video of Biden, basically.
It was brutal, though.
And I just think, again, Kamala, don't you want the sitting president, like your guy who said he was going to endorse her, to intro her on Thursday?
No.
They said, put him Monday.
They'll forget about him by Thursday onward.
So he was pushed out of that.
And then how about this?
This is on the Wednesday, I guess, of the convention.
CNN's Dana Bash.
Not Dana.
Dana.
Pronounce it right.
The Harris-Walz campaign is tailoring their message to appeal to low testosterone men by using second gentleman Doug Emhoff and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.
Listen to Dana Bash.
unidentified
But they are doing so in trying to put forward male figures, Tim Walz being one of them, Doug Emhoff last night, who can speak to men out there who might not be the sort of testosterone laden, you know, gun toting kind of guy who wants to listen to Hulk Hogan and the kind of players that came out of the RNC.
dave rubin
God, they are... Well, first off, I think that's actually probably true, what she's saying.
It's just gross!
They want these effeminate, soy boy, like, loser, ineffectual nobodies because the women are running the show in a weird way.
Oh, God, who would even want that?
You know what's funny?
I will tell you this, that one thing that I did notice, again, I was really trying not to do, I was getting politics out of my brain all month, but like when I was at the store or whatever, you really can just look at people and figure out which way they vote now because of exactly that.
When you see just kind of this little pathetic, very thin, frail man, you're like, oh, that's a Democrat.
And then you just see like a normal dude and it's like, oh, he's probably, it's not even that he's a Republican, he's just somewhat It's just common sense.
That's what it is.
sage steele
That is quite a commentary.
But I just thought, as a journalist, to sit there at that forum, and she was reaching and trying to make it make sense that those are the guys that they're leading with.
We saw Lionel McGloin earlier.
dave rubin
I love him.
sage steele
I get him a little bit to the party, right?
dave rubin
Yeah, he's great.
sage steele
The guy's blowing up, yeah.
He's so brat, right?
He went to the DNC in Chicago, and he was on the floor, he was outside covering some of the protests.
He was a blast to watch.
Here's an example.
unidentified
Would you rather have a democracy?
Or access to abortions?
sage steele
Either or.
unidentified
I feel like that's a very tough question to answer.
I feel like that's almost not possible to answer.
sage steele
I feel like there's... I couldn't pick one or the other.
unidentified
Even if you had to choose?
sage steele
If I had to choose?
unidentified
Can we get a final answer?
I know it's hard.
I guess access to abortions.
It's Brat Summer!
The queen of the Brats has arrived!
Yes, queen!
Are you as hard as I am?
Yes.
Wait, so Brat... She's something special.
Can we please, this year, it'd be so Brat, have a higher tax rate for rich white men?
Well, if we have a Democratic Congress, we certainly will.
Give me your best pickup line.
My best pickup line?
I'll pick.
Who are the cuties in the Democratic Party that are speaking?
Oh, I don't know.
Talk to anyone who lives in D.C.
It's hard to find a cute Democrat.
Oh my God, shots fired.
Free abortion.
Yes, queen.
Free gender-affirming care for migrants.
Yes, queen.
Child tax credits for dogs.
Yes, queen.
Ban standardized testing.
Yes, queen.
Oh yeah, my ADD is so crazy.
Get rid of those things, please.
She's a yes, queener.
My girlfriend needs to get an abortion.
Could you help me cover it up?
Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?
Who do you think has a bigger... Oh, that's disappointing.
JJ's a Democrat.
I guess in it.
I'm a stoner, I use it for PTSD.
Do you think that era is so over?
She's so over that?
I think that even in the What?
of the Biden-Harris administration, they have been working very hard in order to say no.
What about like Coke and stuff?
Excuse me?
What about like Coke?
And her, I would have to look at it, but...
The best comma ever.
dave rubin
What?
unidentified
Oh my God, she has the best laugh.
Joy, joy, we love joy. We're all about joy.
Okay, how do we guarantee equity of joy?
sage steele
I love him.
unidentified
Yeah, he's great.
sage steele
It all seems like an SNL skit.
dave rubin
But Parody is dead, you understand?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
Parody is actually dead because it has taken over and Parody is reality.
Did Ed Markey just come out for Coke?
unidentified
What?
dave rubin
Oh my god.
I know, basically.
But was the whole thing just an utter shit show of protests and bananas pandering to the loonies?
Was there anything sane?
Did anything sane happen at the DNC?
I assume they burned an effigy of Jesus.
Did anything sane happen?
sage steele
The one sane thing, I think the one special moment that everybody agreed is when the parents of one of the kids who was held captive in Gaza came to the podium and asked and begged for them to release him.
dave rubin
At the Democrat Convention they did that, wow, without getting booed.
sage steele
they were cheering emphatically, which has been interesting now to see a little bit of a shift.
So that was the one moment where I thought, yeah, where I thought they realized they got to soften
on this and it can't just be pro-Palestine, pro-Palestine, like, come on guys, you know.
So I thought that was by far the best moment. Oprah spoke and that was, you know, of course.
dave rubin
We all are smarter because of it.
sage steele
One thing that did not happen, which everybody said was happening, and it was like, oh my gosh, the internet was abuzz.
Beyonce was going to perform at the DNC, and I don't know if that was Wednesday or Thursday, the last night.
It was this whole big deal.
She didn't show up.
Taylor Swift was rumored to.
She didn't show up.
So everybody was like, wait, what?
You did this for ratings.
Thanks a lot.
Not happy.
dave rubin
So who'd they get?
Anybody?
sage steele
I don't even know.
Who did they have musically?
dave rubin
Just Oprah.
sage steele
Yeah, just Oprah.
No musical.
Yeah, but like that would have made sense, right?
Couldn't you have seen, especially Taylor, like we know how they lean.
Nobody came, but some people were livid that they thought they just threw it out there to attract ratings and whatever.
Okay.
Kamala's speech during her speech.
First of all, the way she talked, I'll get your reaction in a second, but she said a lot of things that raised some eyebrows, including claiming that Trump will jail his political opponents.
kamala harris
Watch.
Consider his explicit intent to set free violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers at the Capitol.
His explicit intent to jail journalists, political opponents, and anyone he sees as the enemy.
dave rubin
Sage, let me just be clear.
She's evil.
This thing is evil.
There's no other way to say it.
It just is.
And the only way we're gonna get out of the lie thing that we talked about earlier is if we just call it what it is.
Everything they accuse us of, everything that they say is the reverse of the truth.
They're trying to jail Donald Trump.
Didn't she pay the bail or got bail money for people who burned down cities during the Summer of Love?
Kamala herself.
sage steele
2020, yep.
dave rubin
Oh, it's evil.
It's evil.
We have to think of a new way to confront this, like a new psychological way.
sage steele
Biden even brought up Charlottesville in his speech.
unidentified
Again, again.
dave rubin
And they don't mind doing it.
sage steele
It was so angry, like for the joy-filled DNC, it was so angry.
And I agree with you at this point.
There's no other way to describe it other than evil, because you knowingly continue to spew lies.
Now, listen, I'm not saying the right is perfect.
dave rubin
No, of course not.
unidentified
Of course not.
sage steele
But it's certainly not to this level.
When you had the fact-checkers go back, the Democrats won in that category.
dave rubin
You don't say.
You don't say.
sage steele
Yeah, exactly.
dave rubin
So Biden again did Charlottesville.
It's like they have to go because they know they can keep doing it.
sage steele
But that's where I think I'm shocked because are that many Americans that stupid?
Like, or gullible, just to say, OK, we've seen the full context of what he was saying in Charlottesville, but they continue to ignore it.
And the Democrats say, well, why wouldn't we stop?
Because people are believing us.
So they are smart to continue to put this out there.
Plain and simple.
dave rubin
Again, that's the alien analogy I used before.
Like you gotta admire the game that they're doing.
But I would say there's another layer to it, real quick, I know we gotta move on,
which is that a lot of the people that came up to me this month, wherever I was,
even playing basketball, a lot of people are telling me
that they're just checking out, like they can't take it anymore.
And I think that that may be another piece of what they're doing.
So they're lying to a certain amount of people just to get them to vote for them,
but if they can also just get good people to just check out, that's like a double hit, right?
So you get confused people to vote for lies, and then you get good people to just not care anymore
because they're like, you know what, You people just keep doing this over and over.
unidentified
And I understand.
dave rubin
And I get that.
I fully get it.
sage steele
Totally.
dave rubin
These are generally happier people.
sage steele
Yeah, actually, you're right.
But we choose to be miserable, apparently, right?
Okay, the state of the campaign, the Harris campaign, this is so interesting, because I hate the phrase, second gentleman.
We're giving way too much credit, by the way, pretty much for anybody.
dave rubin
But her Can't we just call him Low-T-Guy?
unidentified
Isn't that... Low-T-Johnny?
sage steele
Kamala Harris' husband admits to getting the nanny pregnant during his first marriage.
Admitted it.
Unbelievable.
So cheating on his first wife, they were married, they have two kids, two adult children, and then Kamala-slash-Mamala ended up being the step-mom, Mamala, to the kids.
The relationship's all beautiful, but that's why they got divorced.
dave rubin
You're telling me that man can maintain an erection?
unidentified
Oh, that's not anything that I've thought about, actually.
sage steele
No, thank you.
But he admitted it, and it's fine.
And they said, yeah, we vetted him.
I mean, everybody, the Democrats vetted him before Kamala even ran for vice president.
dave rubin
He just admitted himself, like they knew a story was going to break.
They knew a story was coming, yes.
sage steele
And all they said, well, what happened to the baby?
And the answer was, she did not keep it.
But we don't know if that means she gave it up for adoption or it was aborted.
No one knows.
So anyway, onward, no big deal.
That's why I like the term second gentleman for him, based on that story.
dave rubin
Oh, such a gentleman.
Yeah, such a gentleman.
Bang in the night.
sage steele
And then she snapped at one point.
She was at a rally in Detroit, and there were pro-Palestine protesters there, and she was livid.
She had them, like, escorted out of the building, actually.
We have video of that one, right?
Yeah.
Like, so interesting to see her get angry.
unidentified
Just watch this.
kamala harris
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
Then she had them all arrested and put away for life.
sage steele
It was funny to see her before that clip even just fuming.
I could see her breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth.
Like she was livid that somebody would dare interrupt her.
dave rubin
Think how entitled she must feel right now.
They literally handed this thing to her.
As you said, nobody voted for her.
In effect, they cancelled a primary, they do their coup, and now she still doesn't have everybody.
So now, it's so ironic.
You really have to love the sort of mystery of the universe that she could be in that situation and now have to be at odds with the base of her own party in some respect.
sage steele
I was thinking about that.
dave rubin
There's something really, really poetically beautiful about that.
sage steele
It is, but it's not happening nearly enough.
dave rubin
No, we gotta double it and triple it.
sage steele
I would love to see the continued meltdowns, because she does not know how to handle it unless there is a crowd, a good crowd, a loving crowd.
But one protester, and she's like, this makes me sick.
It doesn't even really make sense at this point, but she is mandating people who work on her campaign to have the COVID vaccine.
It is September.
dave rubin
That is genuinely psychotic.
unidentified
Of 2024!
dave rubin
I think it might be illegal.
There must be a legal fight over that, right?
She's in public office.
sage steele
I think that any private employer, I don't know where that falls with the campaign, is allowed to do whatever they want to do.
I mean, has that changed?
Because that's what happened to me at Disney ESPN.
It was mandated.
They could do whatever the hell they wanted, and I had a decision to make.
But to work on her, that was 2021 at least.
dave rubin
Right.
sage steele
This is three years later where we all know it doesn't work, and she's requiring that of her employees.
dave rubin
Well, because you know what it is.
It's not about COVID.
What it is, is I only want to hire people who will bow to me.
sage steele
Control.
dave rubin
And if I can get you to inject yourself with something that quite literally either does nothing or maybe will kill you, then I'm pretty sure I have control over you.
We have a mandate here.
You cannot be vaxxed.
sage steele
If you are Vaxxed, you're not allowed to work here.
dave rubin
If you are Vaxxed, you are not allowed to work here.
sage steele
I love it.
dave rubin
We will take you out.
sage steele
I love it.
dave rubin
You rebel.
That's so psychotic.
But again, I'm just telling you, there's nothing in these beautiful blue papers that you have there that could be too psychotic.
That was my takeaway for the month.
Whatever I was going to come back with, no matter how insane they've gone, no matter what interchangeable parts of Walter Wentz and the guy banging the nanny and the soy boy.
sage steele
See, this is the sports boy.
Carson Wentz.
You're thinking about football because it's football season now.
dave rubin
That's what I'm calling him for now.
I'm calling her Kamala, and he's Wentz.
And that's it.
And there is just nothing psychotic about it.
sage steele
To me, the psychotic part was the free abortions in a truck outside.
That's the only part.
But I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
My bar should have been much, much lower.
This part pissed me off, too.
I'm sorry to my mom, who's probably watching.
Now, see, now you're gonna make me say Kamala, just to like... She is stealing President Trump's tax policies.
Were you around when he said, yeah, this isn't like June, when he said, I'm not going to tax you on tips in Las Vegas.
Okay, just watch this.
dave rubin
Oh God.
donald j trump
Because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips.
unidentified
People making tips.
kamala harris
Eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
dave rubin
But again, this is what they do with everything.
It's like the border wall, right?
Like, suddenly, when Trump was wanting a wall, it was racist.
Then they open it up, and now they want a wall again, so suddenly it's not racist.
Kids in cages.
Everything is a lie.
Everything.
sage steele
All of it.
dave rubin
Most of it.
Not 99.9%.
sage steele
And she went right back to Las Vegas, where he said it almost exactly two months later, and said the same thing.
And it's like, and guess what I'm gonna do!
And they all cheered.
So again, you gotta put it back on the American people for being suckers in that way, too.
But it ends up being, to me, it isn't even about that as much as it's about TDS.
You know, and whatever it takes to make sure he doesn't get in.
dave rubin
Well, it's like, Kamala, if you actually cared about workers, what you would do is lower taxes on everybody, because if everyone had more of their own money in their own pocket, they could spend it as they wish and create new businesses and things of that nature.
But they never want to do that, right?
sage steele
Correct.
dave rubin
They never want to lower taxes.
They want to somehow trick you into thinking that giving you back your own money is them being Santa Claus.
sage steele
I know, you get all excited about that return you get.
But P.S.
dave rubin
Yes?
sage steele
She's basically running the country now.
Why are you waiting until January to do that?
dave rubin
Oh, that's interesting.
Why isn't it like being forced for Biden to do right now?
sage steele
Yeah, by Obama or whoever it is.
That's pulling the strings at this point.
You mentioned the border wall, and she has.
She's done a 180.
She's done a 180 on that.
dave rubin
Oh, we're getting a border?
We're getting a border?
sage steele
We're getting a border!
Hot damn!
So along with the taxes and tips, which is a big deal, she now says, yeah, we need a wall.
Because remember, as soon as he came into office, they stopped any construction on that.
And look at what has happened since then.
But now, all of a sudden, she's acknowledging it.
This is the border czar who says, no, I never was the border czar, but she was the border czar.
dave rubin
I mean, she was the border czar.
It's in the official government documents, the word czar.
unidentified
Right.
sage steele
So again, they could stop it now and choose not to.
So when I'm in office, yeah.
On that note, so interesting because she waited 39 days.
From the moment she became the one taking over for Biden until the day she actually sat down for an interview.
It took her 39 days, her first interview.
It was originally 41 minutes.
This is just last Thursday.
Like this just happened.
We were waiting and waiting and waiting.
No press conferences, no interviews until last Thursday.
41 minutes long.
Reports came out that the whole thing, the whole thing, the whole thing only lasted 18 minutes of what we got to see in their reports saying, that they were, you know, her team was behind the scenes
saying, chop this, chop that, chop this.
Evil.
Evil.
That's not journalism.
kamala harris
We got 18 minutes.
sage steele
And the interviewer, Diana Bash from CNN, once again, a very friendly interviewer.
And here, I mean, look, this is the very beginning of the interview.
Take a look.
unidentified
If you are elected, what would you do on day one in the White House?
kamala harris
Well, there are a number of things.
I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class.
When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people, I think that people are ready for a new way forward.
unidentified
Let me get this straight, that's the stuff they left in?
sage steele
They had to leave that one in because it was the first question!
dave rubin
What are you going to do on day one?
The hopes and aspirations of generations?
Like, she's so...
I'm trying to be.
sage steele
No, but it was shocking to me because when you're doing all this preparation, by the way, if you have 39 days to repair, you better damn well know what you're going to say to that basic question.
Like, when I interviewed RFK Jr.
on my show, that was one of the first things I asked him.
It's a no-brainer.
That's nothing.
dave rubin
Right.
sage steele
And you can't answer that.
dave rubin
It's like I'm going to sign border executive actions.
Yes.
Like, there's so many obvious things.
unidentified
I'm going to rip up this accord, or I'm going to... I'm going to pick up the phone and talk to Netanyahu.
sage steele
I'm going to do all these things.
Something.
And that was the answer.
unidentified
Wow.
sage steele
And that was shocking.
And again, to your point, 18 minutes of the 41.
That's what we got to see.
dave rubin
Even that, right there.
sage steele
Oh, wait.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
You didn't get to see in that clip.
dave rubin
About 23 minutes, apparently.
She wasn't alone.
sage steele
She wasn't alone.
Tim Walz was sitting next to her the entire time.
So if you're the soon-to-be hopeful President of the United States, you should be able to do a one-on-one interview by yourself.
dave rubin
Yeah.
sage steele
So Megyn Kelly, everybody calls it, that was her security blanket.
And Megyn actually, on her show, picked up her big white blanket the entire thing.
Oh, that's funny.
It's like, they did chat with him, and then when he was asked about the stolen Valor thing, his wife says, Describes it as him having a grammatical error.
dave rubin
Oh, yes, yes.
sage steele
So that's the most memorable thing of what he said.
But shocking that a hopeful president can't do an interview alone, and then we only get 18 minutes.
dave rubin
Well, first off, that in and of itself, we'll try to hit this more tomorrow, but that in and of itself, that you tape an interview, you tell people it's 41 minutes, and you only air 18 minutes.
sage steele
Well, they didn't tell people, that leaked out.
All we got was 18.
dave rubin
Right, so that's obviously, right, like they're not gonna tell it.
It somehow leaks.
You know it's gonna get out, that's the point.
sage steele
Right.
dave rubin
Like, that's evil.
That is journalistic malpractice, but we don't have journalists.
Dana Bash or Dana Bash or Dana Bosch or Walter Wentz.
These people are not journalists.
You are actors in a screenplay that is being written in front of all of us, and they're just playing the part of those people.
But get me that 23 minutes.
sage steele
I want to see it, right?
What was chopped out and why?
And I want follow-ups.
You have to watch the whole thing now.
Maybe it doesn't matter.
I don't know.
But at the end of the day, that's part of the journalist's job.
You've got to follow up on some of the times when they don't answer.
And immediately, instead of answering the question, blame it on Trump.
Blame it on Trump.
And that, hey, why not?
It works.
You know, I like your wide tent thing.
It's so true.
And there were a lot of those moments.
So you know who Aiden Ross is, right?
He's an influencer.
dave rubin
Oh yeah, he's like a gamer or something.
sage steele
Yeah.
So Aiden Ross and Donald Trump, they had some fun.
They were in a MAGA-wrapped Cybertruck, like Tesla's Cybertruck, that Aiden gifted to Donald Trump.
And they were in it, listening to Elvis and dancing to YMCA.
We have video proof just for you.
unidentified
♪ And the sky is gray ♪ ♪ I'm gonna go down in for a while ♪
♪ And the rain's gonna wait ♪ It's just, even that, it's just, the five seconds.
sage steele
The contrast.
dave rubin
He's just so much more real.
He's orange with the crazy hair, and he's more authentic and real than any of these people.
sage steele
Yes, yes.
It was awesome to see that.
And we're like, wait, what?
Iain Ross is doing that in a MAGA-wrapped truck.
It was awesome.
It was classic.
dave rubin
That's nice to give a billionaire a cyber truck.
sage steele
Yeah, right?
I know.
How cool would it be to be able to give someone... I'm just saying.
Goals.
Hashtag goals.
On August 12th, Donald Trump returned to X. Back on.
Back tweeting.
Yes.
But the way it happened was super cool.
So he joined forces with Elon Musk to do an interview on his platform, right?
The Spaces.
It ended up being like almost two hours long.
There were technical issues at the start.
34 minutes.
I guess there was some cyber attack.
But it ended up being really, really interesting.
And of course, more than 18 minutes, that's for sure.
unidentified
Look.
donald j trump
Well, I think we will.
unidentified
I'm pretty sure we will.
And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people.
donald j trump
And it's an honor.
We view that as an honor.
dave rubin
Again, he has no script in front of him.
The guy can speak off the cuff.
It doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not on everything.
It's like that, that is way more the future that this country better become than the other thing.
sage steele
And at the end of the day, even if you don't like the answers, at least the questions are being asked and he's giving the answers and then you can make a judgment from there.
We, I mean, we still are trying to figure out what her policies would be if she's in office.
And that's the problem.
Give us the information.
Allow us to judge.
Go through that whole democratic process.
So love him or hate him, at least he's talking.
And it was it was, I mean, well over a million at one point, of course, streaming and watching him on X. How about this, though?
So they're going to they're going to work together like Elon, which is not a shock there, right?
dave rubin
It's so great.
sage steele
I love it.
Volunteers to serve on the Government Efficiency Committee to rein in wasteful spending if Trump is elected.
And Trump has agreed to it.
So bring on Elon.
Bring on Trump.
dave rubin
That is so wonderful to hear.
And I said, what are the chances you're gonna give me some good news?
That is good news.
One of my main things when I was supporting DeSantis way back when was that I was afraid Trump was not going to be able to get the right people.
But now if you can get him, and there's another guy like David Sachs, you could start bringing in these people that can know how to build things, know how to build right teams and systems.
It's like, oh, then for the little eccentricities of Trump, That can be dealt with.
So that's actually great news.
sage steele
They have to continue to do that this time.
And you know, you always take something from whatever you do in life, but certainly from four years in the White House.
Well, how do you do it differently, better this time?
And Elon Musk, as you know, has just gone all in and free speech.
And that was ever since the assassination attempt.
That's when he's like, okay, I'm Trump 2024.
dave rubin
We need him, right?
sage steele
We need him so badly.
Another one, maybe you tell me, Corey Lewandowski?
unidentified
Yeah.
sage steele
He's back.
donald j trump
Okay.
sage steele
Trump has brought him back again for another stint.
He was the 2016 campaign manager, of course, many of you know, and there were some controversies surrounding him, so he's brought him back.
Yeah, that seems good.
Good?
Good decision?
The Y10 thing, once again, comedian Theo Vaughn and Donald Trump sat down, and that one was also like for two hours of that one, too.
We have video proof.
theo von
No, I would just do cocaine.
unidentified
That was really... Yeah.
donald j trump
That's down and dirty, right?
theo von
Yeah.
donald j trump
But you don't anymore?
theo von
No, I don't do it anymore, man.
And I'm not doing it.
donald j trump
Is it too much?
Too much to handle?
theo von
Some of the stuff started to get a real rattle in it, too.
I don't know where we were even getting it from in this country, but yeah, it started to make me feel like I was a mechanic or something.
unidentified
So the thing you go back to then is alcohol, for the most part.
theo von
Right yeah but well what I want probably is cocaine but I know that if I have a drink then it'll give me it'll like be like okay well I had a drink then I can do this.
unidentified
Is cocaine a stronger uh oh yeah up?
theo von
Yeah yeah yeah.
unidentified
So you're way up with cocaine more than anything else you can think of.
theo von
Cocaine will turn you into a damn owl homie you know what I'm saying it'll you'll be you'll be out on your own porch you know you'll you'll be your own street lamp you're freaking That is the most insane thing I have ever seen.
sage steele
You have to go back and watch it.
unidentified
And then of course... I love how Trump... Is cocaine more of an up?
sage steele
No, he literally was like the interviewer for a very long time there and asking the questions and then Theo, it's just Theo, which is amazing, but Donald was talking about how he's never smoked smoking a cigarette and had a drink and nothing.
So those questions, he's genuinely curious about Theo's experience with Coke and mixing
alcohol and all those things.
It was classic.
Like, how cool is that when you go from the youngster Aiden Ross to the comedian?
He does not care with whom he speaks.
Let's just go, let's just talk and show that I can go anywhere.
dave rubin
I love it.
Trump does love Diet Coke, though.
sage steele
Okay, that's fine.
dave rubin
That's one thing.
No, but that, yeah, you're right.
That's exactly the Y10 thing I've been going for.
unidentified
It doesn't mean you're a Republican and I believe all of the things that Republicans and conservatives believe and exactly this on abortion or exactly this on that.
dave rubin
It's like, do you think that America is decent?
Do you?
If you do, you probably have to vote Trump.
That's just reality right now.
Do you think our history is something that was good and worth fighting for?
If you do, you have to vote Trump.
Do you want a place where there can be an honest tension between liberalism and conservatism?
That is Trump.
Do you want states' rights?
Do you want gun laws?
Do you want the Bill of Rights?
These are things that the left is trying to demolish, and they will.
So even if you just said the thing about, if they were telling us the truth, it would be a little more refreshing or something.
It wouldn't even matter.
To me, we know what they want, they're doing it, and this is the chance.
This is the big white 10 chance.
unidentified
This is it.
dave rubin
This really is it.
I don't know if that sounds alarmist, or I've been checked out, but this is it.
sage steele
No, I totally agree.
Like, I've been talking, my oldest kid is in college and she's 22, and she's like, Mom, we're going to sound like those crazy liberals, but if she wins, we got to go.
And I'm like, I know, because to me, this is that cliff.
dave rubin
Well, you're already down here in Florida.
sage steele
I'm in the free state of Florida.
A week from now, it will be official, officially official.
Okay, to continue with that, so we've got the comedians, we've got the influencers.
Donald Trump Jr.
endorsed the idea, this was on August 21st, of RFK Jr.
joining the Trump administration and helping out.
So when Trump Jr.
did that, that was a big deal.
Potential CIA director, that was the news.
And then, two days later...
RFK announced he is suspending his campaign, throwing his support to Donald Trump in this election.
So RFK Jr.
is on the Trump train.
dave rubin
Wow.
That's actually, that's a wow.
sage steele
That's a wow.
That's a shocking one.
Yes.
And then it all, so we've heard it was going to happen.
Then all of a sudden it culminates in Phoenix, Arizona at a massive rally.
And take a look at the way that Trump introduced RFK.
donald j trump
I don't think too many of you people have heard of him.
He's very low-key.
unidentified
He's a very low-key person, but he's highly respected.
He is a great person.
donald j trump
I've known him for so long.
for the past 16 months, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
unidentified
has been a hero.
He's a hero.
you Whoa!
And he deserves it.
Man, whoa!
And he deserves it.
He deserves it.
USA!
dave rubin
Wow, so I assume then he spoke.
sage steele
It was surreal.
Yeah, it was surreal.
He had spoken earlier, was it earlier that same day?
Yeah, and talked about just how disappointed he was in the Democrat Party, and of course going back to his family and his history there, but what they were versus what they had become.
And on that note, I actually kind of went off on this on social media too, because then when this happened, his family crushed him.
dave rubin
Oh God.
sage steele
Like disgusting.
I guess I shouldn't have been surprised about this, but the level to which they went.
They put out some nasty videos about Hillary.
Yeah, I remember they were in Philadelphia on the stage with Biden back in like April or May, and sorry brother, sorry cousin, whatever it is, but we're going for Biden.
So take a look at the statement that they put out, and this is by Kerry Kennedy.
And to me, the last part there is the key.
Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today as a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear.
It is a sad ending to a sad story.
dave rubin
God, that is so pathetic, but it's not surprising by the family, because they've been doing this.
But that, what you just showed me right there, is good news.
That is wide tent.
You know, I put out a tweet a little bit before I went off the grid about what a Trump administration could look like.
And I said, I don't know that I said RFK would be CIA director.
I think maybe that is what I said.
I did say CIA director, but it was like he could be in charge of taking out the agencies or reforming the NIH, all that stuff.
So this seems like a beautiful marriage.
There'll obviously be some weird tensions there and all that stuff that always happens, but that's huge.
I'm shocked that nobody said that to me.
I'm shocked at that.
sage steele
I know.
This is one of the things I was hoping that you hadn't heard at the airport when someone comes up to you.
But when you talked earlier about people just saying, you know what, this is too much.
I'm just going to stay away.
To me, this is the move that makes people say, okay, wait a minute.
Maybe I will stay in this.
And if he, he has a choice.
He could have gone on either side.
But to me, it was a no brainer if he's going to choose one.
And at some point he would have to, because, I mean, Biden, they wouldn't even give him any secret service.
They did nothing for him and how the family, everybody has treated him.
How could he go back to them at that point?
dave rubin
Also, keep in mind the forces against this guy, not only the history of the family.
You know, his wife is Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusiasm.
She's a major Hollywood star.
I did an event with him in L.A.
He's an L.A.
guy.
So for him to now be joining Trump, he's closing every door in his life.
Put aside the politics, but like your own personal side, just one other thing real quick on that.
You know, the day that he announced that he was running for president as a Democrat, I said, I don't know if he'll be a Democrat.
I said, I don't know if he'll be a Republican by the end of this, but I know he won't be a Democrat.
And now look at that.
Look at that.
sage steele
Interesting.
There's no way that he could.
And interesting, by the way, because so he's taken his name off of many of the ballots
in those swing states where it's close, but then has stayed on in others, which I don't
know why.
And people haven't asked him why with that.
So is that pointing ahead to 2028, right?
Like just to see how he could fare in some of those states.
dave rubin
Or does he think that you stay on in certain states where you'll basically pilfer off Biden
a little bit more, something like that?
That's interesting.
I'm getting some nods over there.
sage steele
But it's funny because even in the state of Michigan, it's so interesting because he's like, you know, okay, I'm just going to get off the ballot here.
And now he had to fight to get on it.
unidentified
Right.
sage steele
And Whitmer, and other people.
And now they won't let him off the ballot.
dave rubin
God, that's so evil, you see?
sage steele
It's so—it's Claire's day, and no one's calling it out.
You know what I mean?
So it is interesting, though.
Wow, that is great.
If you're suspending your campaign, then why stand in it?
Interesting.
And then, Tulsi Gabbard.
Also officially endorsed Donald Trump.
So right now you've got RFK.
Yeah, that one is not as much of a surprise.
Certainly you've got Tulsi, named honorary co-chairs of Trump's 2024 transition team.
I will say this.
We have MAGA and we have MAHA as well.
That's RFK.
Make America happy.
healthy again. So his big message right now is, okay, parents and children and all the
vaccines and all the crap that has happened over the last several years. And that I think
will bring in some of those stragglers as people who were like, huh, which way do I
go? Trump annoys me, Biden, Harris, this, but if you're going to focus on the health
and to not force me to vaccinate my kids, et cetera, I think his endorsement is massive.
dave rubin
Can I just say one quick thing about health?
Just 20 seconds, this is away from politics for a moment, but I've been on this carnivore thing, and working out a lot, and eating right, and my whole team, we've all been doing this together, so I'm really, I'm probably the lowest weight I've been in, and best shape, and blah, blah, blah, and I'm not patting myself on the back, but I was a little worried about my blood work and everything, because I changed my diet so drastically, so I had my blood work done in July, also for life insurance purposes and whatever, and everything came back absolutely immaculate.
And I was like, and I'm not like, yeah, that's not on wood right there.
sage steele
But like, I think if you do some work till I get yourself right, and he is trying to do that at the like, countrywide level, and educating us on so many things, and he is resonating and Nicole Shanahan, of course, RFK Jr.
is running mate like they, they are all in on this and I like it.
dave rubin
No, I'm shocked.
I'm shocked only that it's positive.
Like, I'm not shocked that it happened, actually.
I know.
sage steele
Do you still want to do the video with Tulsi?
Yes, this is officially when he named them co-chairs.
Take a look.
robert f kennedy-jr
And don't you want a president who's going to get us out of the wars and who's going to rebuild the middle class in this country, who's going to protect America's freedoms, that's going to make America healthy again?
unidentified
I think what RFK's endorsement really shows is that the Kennedy Democrats are actually more at home in the Republican Party of Donald Trump.
Today I'm honored to officially welcome another true American patriot.
tulsi gabbard
Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or an Independent, If you love our country as I do, if you cherish peace and freedom as we do, I invite you to join me in doing all that we can to save our country and elect President Donald J. Trump and send him back to the White House to do the tough work of saving our country and serving the people.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
kamala harris
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
dave rubin
Well, Sage, I have to say, I'm like, I'm actually elated.
I feel a little something that just, like, lifted off my chest about politics.
Like, that's what I've been screaming about for the last three years.
This is what you've got to do.
And the line by J.D.
there, that is so right.
Remember, Ronald Reagan, I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democratic Party left me.
Fifty years ago, about, right?
JFK would be a Republican now, so to speak.
Like, that is what's happening.
unidentified
Wow.
sage steele
Wow.
Yeah.
And I actually—and then you look at the contrast with what the family statement was, and it's like, you know what?
Peace.
But I love the point that you made, what a departure that is for him, and it's final.
Like, that group, the family, they're not going to send—Thanksgiving would be interesting.
dave rubin
Yeah, where's the Kennedy compound?
It's in Amagansett or Kennebunkport or what?
Like, you ain't going back for Christmas, buddy.
sage steele
You're not going up there.
Nope, nope.
Okay, we finally, so we got the interview with Kamala Harris after 39 days of waiting.
There's been back and forth about a debate, an official debate with Trump and Kamala, and it is scheduled for September 10th, which is a week from today, and it's on ABC.
So, the interesting part about that, first of all it took a minute for them to finally agree to a day to do it, and of course a network that was controversial as well.
But then she came out and she wants to change the debate rules.
I know, you're shocked on that.
So, the things that she wanted to change, to keep the mics on at all times.
She wanted to sit down and, of course, have notes as well.
And let's give credit to ABC for once, and they've rejected her last-minute attempts to change the format of the debate.
So the mics will be cut.
And remember, we talked about this with the last debate with Biden and Trump.
It's like, sometimes let them talk over each other.
Sometimes you need to see that.
Fine.
That stays as is with them off, you know, while the other is speaking.
And then you've got to stand up the whole time.
I like that energy.
I like that.
dave rubin
And no— That's an interesting one.
sage steele
Yeah.
And no notes.
But you know what that brings me back to?
It brings me back to 2016 and the debate with Hillary and Trump.
And of course, I mean, I remember the one point when Hillary, I think, was sitting,
right?
I guess you had the option.
And Trump— And Trump—
—was walking behind her.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was like this ominous big shadow behind her and, like, intimidating her.
I like the standing thing.
You know?
dave rubin
Yeah.
Well, standing in a debate— And no notes.
Hell no notes.
—standing in a debate, absolutely, you're at a podium, you should stand.
What would her angle be on sitting?
unidentified
Thank you.
sage steele
What would it be?
unidentified
Maybe it's just the visual.
dave rubin
She's young, it's not like Biden.
sage steele
And she's a beautiful woman, right, but maybe it's just the visual part of her being a more petite woman and he's a big man.
Maybe that part of it, the visual, because that automatically might exude weakness if you're her.
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know.
sage steele
They didn't say.
But ABC said no.
We're sticking with our format.
Nice try.
dave rubin
One week from today?
sage steele
One week from today.
dave rubin
Alright, I guess I'm back.
sage steele
You are officially back in this one.
And to me, that is the moment.
That is the most important moment.
Donald Trump must...
Have self-control.
You can crush her just on policy alone.
If what?
If you stop with the personal attacks.
We don't care what race you are claiming this week versus last week, like whatever it is.
unidentified
She's still celebrating Kwanzaa.
sage steele
All the inconsistencies.
If you go there...
This is over in my mind.
So can he?
dave rubin
Oh God, I hope he can.
Look, he did an unbelievably good job in that one that we watched together upstairs against Biden.
So if he can maintain that control, and obviously she's, for as ridiculous as she is, she's sharper, quicker than Biden.
But if he can just maintain that discipline, yeah.
sage steele
And no teleprompter and questions.
Hopefully they're not giving them too much notice on what any of the questions are because of course that's what happened.
One week from today.
That's what happened with the interview on Thursday.
This is really sad.
It's the third anniversary of 13 American service members dying during the withdrawal, that disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Kamala Harris basically has nothing on her schedule and she was not there for the anniversary.
Joe Biden was at the beach.
President Trump He was there at Arlington National Cemetery laying a wreath for all 13 Americans who were killed that day.
And you take a look at this video and...
Devastating.
dave rubin
I mean, if you can't see what's right and wrong right now, again, this is just another obvious one.
It's not surprising.
You know, I was off the grid for the Afghanistan withdrawal, obviously, because it was three years ago.
So I got caught up on that.
I think it was Adam Carolla that brought me back on that one and showed me those insane videos from Kabul and everything.
sage steele
The sad thing, though, Is that immediately upon seeing that video and everybody's like, well, where's Kamala?
Where's Joe Biden?
Nowhere to be found.
She comes out with a tweet and basically crushing him for taking this as a photo op instead of the fact of why he would naturally want to be there, why you would think she would naturally want to be there.
And even Joe Biden, come off your vacation and go there.
Some people on social media were like, okay, you got to think back to it at the beginning.
These families have been devastated ever since.
But either way, they chose not to be there for whatever reason.
She chose to crush Trump for being there.
And then Trump responded by releasing a video.
And it was eight of the 13 representatives from the 13 who died, their family members,
who came onto a video and basically said, we invited Donald Trump.
That's why he's here.
We did not even want you.
You could have come anyway.
You could have done the right thing.
But they said, we haven't heard a word from you in the three years since we lost our son
or our daughter or our daughter-in-law.
So they, I thought it was brilliant by the Trump campaign to release that video.
As soon as she went there, they're like, no, no, no, no, no.
It's not a photo op.
I care.
And the families actually invited me.
It was powerful.
dave rubin
Also doing the right thing can be a photo op because he's probably going to be president again and was president.
So like, that's just like.
sage steele
But yeah, and I think they're like, well, damage is done.
But how to not ever for them to say that, hey, we never even heard from you for the
last three years.
So so don't come at us now.
Election integrity.
This is what I've been saying from day one.
Everyone's like, oh, Trump, Trump, Trump.
I'm like, guys, if you trust the system after what happened in 2020, then then shame on
That's why I think there's so many people who are fearful.
And this was a really huge win in that category.
The Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania has ruled that the digital images of completed absentee and mail-in ballots bear public records.
So, big deal there.
How about this, continuing.
A review by Governor Glenn Youngkin of Virginia found over 6,300 non-citizens and almost 80,000 dead people on Virginia's voter roll.
So good job by Youngkin for exposing all of that.
So now Virginia's going to require paper ballots for all elections.
I love that!
Paper ballots!
What a concept!
Going back to how it should be.
Wisconsin's Supreme Court also stopped Democrats from tossing Jill Stein off the ballot, the Green Party, liberal, but Green Party candidate.
And then the Michigan Democrats saying RFK Jr.' 's name must remain on the ballot.
So a lot of back and forth there.
We talked about that earlier.
dave rubin
So Jill Stein and now RFK has to be kicked off.
Man, I mean, everyone's heard me say it a million times, but going from California, where I quite literally I went to vote for the recall, the Gavin Newsom recall, and just by happenstance, I just did it because it was what I do.
I took my license out when I got to the table there, and the guy was like, no, no, no, we don't look at IDs.
How crazy that is compared to here, where I filled out a paper ballot that was in an envelope, someone looked at my ID, I brought it to someone else, they watched me fill everything out.
Man, there is no excuse other than you want to steal elections.
sage steele
They literally were telling you to put your idea away?
dave rubin
Yeah, literally, literally.
And then it turned out that the guy knew me.
He's like, Dave, we don't need to see it, but it's not because I know you.
I swear, they were with me.
We all voted the same day for the...
sage steele
The biggest influencer it was, by the way, that went in the streets of Manhattan, New York City recently just to talk about the whole, you know, racist voter ID laws and going around and asking black people and saying, do you have your ID on you?
And it's like, yeah, well, they're saying that it's racist.
And then these black people were like, what are you talking about?
It's racist.
I mean, it's, it's, it's so blatant.
It's so obvious.
And then I saw on Twitter, I think last night, the list of all the, you know, dozens, hundreds of countries that all require an ID to vote.
It's as basic as it gets.
dave rubin
You have an ID?
unidentified
well i mean my mom's a white ladies and gentlemen my mom's wife so i figured i
you know that's how you guys should be
sage steele
but just in case they noticed I still think also it should be a national holiday.
dave rubin
Yes, completely agree.
sage steele
Day off, standing your damn line.
I remember doing it with my kids and proud to show her that this is what we do and it's a piece of paper.
I would never do mail-in.
Anyway, we could go on and on about this.
Okay, charges against Trump.
You know that this story will never go away because they're going to do whatever it takes.
to try to make sure he does not ever win anything ever again. But Supreme Court sends Trump case
back to the lower court, awards former president restitution, basically. So he's charged in
superseding indictment and an election interference case following this SCOTUS ruling, right?
Jack Smith, the special counsel, and this is kind of a quote from ABC that we can put up here,
President Donald Trump in a superseding indictment in his federal election interference case that
charges him with the same offenses in the original indictment.
It's adjusted to the Supreme Court's recent presidential immunity ruling. So basically they're
calling him a presidential candidate.
Not former president.
unidentified
Oh.
sage steele
Because of the immunity issue.
So these are all the same charges being brought back up by Jack Smith charging him again.
And they're like, well, we're going to be able to get him now if we calm the candidate versus a former president.
Again, that's the word.
That's the word that certainly applies because they're going to do whatever it takes.
And of course, there's many appeals that can happen.
And so this wouldn't even really affect anything until after the election, until after we know what's happening.
But the fact that they won't let this die.
Wow.
That is quite telling.
How about some political news, other political news that isn't quite to this level?
Our friend Tim Scott, South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, he got hitched.
dave rubin
He got married again?
sage steele
He got married!
unidentified
Oh my God, look at that heterosexual man!
sage steele
You're so weird!
Mindy?
Is it Nose?
Do you know Mindy?
Nose?
Noche?
Nose?
Mindy... His new wife.
dave rubin
Mindy.
sage steele
Mindy!
Let's call her Mindy.
Mindy Scott.
They met in Bible study.
So it's a perfect storybook ending there.
How about this one?
RFK Jr.
in an attempt to get ahead of a forthcoming New Yorker story.
This one's phenomenal.
He says in a new video that a decade ago he dumped a dead bear cub in Central Park to make it look like a bicyclist killed this bear cub.
What?
Let RFK explain.
robert f kennedy-jr
I was taking a group of people, up in Goshen, New York, up in the Hudson Valley, and I was
supposed to meet them there at like maybe 8 or 9.
I was driving up maybe, you know, really early, like 7.
And that woman in a van in front of me hit a bear and killed it.
A young bear.
So I pulled over and I picked up the bear and put him in the back of my van because I was going to skin the bear.
And it was very good condition.
And I was going to put the meat in my refrigerator.
unidentified
You stayed late.
robert f kennedy-jr
And instead of going back to my home in Leicester, I had to go right to the city because there was a dinner at Peter Luger's Steakhouse.
And at the end of the dinner, it went late, and I realized I couldn't go home.
I had to go to the airport.
And the bear was in my car, and I didn't want to leave the bear in the car, because that would have been bad.
And I said, I had an old bike in my car that somebody had asked me to get rid of.
I said, let's go put the bear in Central Park, and we'll make it look like he got hit by a bike.
It'll be fun and funny for people.
So we went and did that and we thought it would be amusing for whoever found it or something.
The next day, it was like, it was on every television station.
It was the front page of every paper and I turned on the TV and there was like a mile of yellow tape and there were 20
cop cars.
There were helicopters flying over it.
unidentified
And I was like, oh my god, what did I do?
I thought, I'm...
dave rubin
Sage, I gotta tell you, watching now basically Donald Trump supporting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
explained to Roseanne Barr that he killed a bear and dumped it in Central Park is like, my life's work is almost complete.
This really does feel like with the Tulsi thing, I've done everything I need to do.
We could wrap it up.
We might wrap it up.
sage steele
It's over.
Go back to Mexico.
dave rubin
So now he's evil.
He hates bears, he hates animals.
sage steele
Well, of course.
Because what he was trying to do was what?
Was like, oh my gosh, this dead bear.
And instead, it went south from there.
But it's a New Yorker story that was going to come out.
Oh my God, look what he's... And so, hey, that's smart PR, isn't it?
Let's get ahead of it and let's do a video and have Roseanne in it as well.
Why not, right?
Okay, other things.
We mentioned Elon Musk earlier.
X files an antitrust suit against Shadowy Ad Cartel for allegedly coordinating an illegal boycott.
dave rubin
Oh, that's great.
That seemed like it was in the works for a while.
Absolutely.
That they were all kind of working against X to make sure nobody would put ads on theirs.
That's fantastic.
sage steele
And it continues with X. So Garm, the global alliance for responsible media, has disbanded after coming under fire in July's congressional hearing with Ben Shapiro and a lawsuit from Elon Musk's X, of course.
But look at this.
And this is happening as we speak.
Brazil's ban on X has started coming into effect just in the last couple of hours.
Justice Moraes, he's threatening Brazilians who use a VPN to access X with fines of up to $9,000 a day.
So Brazil says no more, and they're shutting down other, is it SpaceX or other things in Brazil that have anything to do with Elon Musk, even though the shareholders and everybody are completely different from X. I think it wasn't one of the last stories we did before I left was about the new prime minister of Brazil basically saying that Elon Musk is enemy number one or something like that.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Yeah.
sage steele
Enemy number one.
Free speech.
That's what makes him an enemy.
So that's happening right now.
It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
And of course, nine grand a day.
You're going to listen.
That's the thing.
And they get the control.
Telegram CEO Pavel Duval was arrested in France.
Basically, he was kidnapped by the French government.
And take a look at this.
The Telegram founder, CEO again, Pavel Durov, was formally charged in France this week for a wide range of alleged crimes stemming from his refusal to cooperate with law enforcement officials investigating crimes that occurred on the encrypted communication platform.
The guy's 39 years old, Russian billionaire over the weekend, so his private jet lands in the country as part of an investigation into, I guess it's a dozen potential offenses, including refusal to cooperate with law enforcement.
I mean, all kinds of different things, including Helping sexually explicit photos of children.
I mean, not stopping that.
I mean, there's a wide range of charges there.
So keep an eye on that because he is now jailed and closely being watched right now.
dave rubin
And what that does is it sends a signal to Elon.
That's probably what it really is about, right?
Because that's the big fish.
So you just send, ah, you're a billionaire with a private plane.
You land somewhere.
I just watched Ozark.
That was the one thing that I watched all month.
Did you watch Ozark by chance?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dave rubin
You've got to be careful where you land your private plane if you're doing some You know, stuff.
sage steele
Yeah, some stuff, yeah.
But this is all tied together, and it's scary, but that's why we need Elon more now than ever before, my God.
Yeah.
Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan versus the media.
So he called out MSNBC, and rightfully so, for they edited a clip of him talking about Tulsi Gabbard in a very positive way, edited it to make it look like he was saying all these positive things about Kamala Harris.
unidentified
Unreal.
joe rogan
Watch this.
This has gotten so popular that my Stepdad contacted me to tell me he's happy that I'm suing MSNBC.
I'm like, I'm not suing MSNBC.
But this is what MSNBC did.
They took a clip of me talking about Tulsi Gabbard and they edited it up and made it look like I was saying great things about Kamala Harris.
robert f kennedy-jr
Wait, what?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew huberman
I mean, you and I have been mashed up on other stuff and AI, and I don't want to, like you said, we don't want to draw attention.
They got taken off the internet, thank goodness, but it was bull****.
dave rubin
It was AI and mashup.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of AI ads with us.
dave rubin
They did that about politics?
joe rogan
Yes, they did it about politics, but they didn't do it like AI.
They just deceptively edited the things that I was saying.
Took it completely out of context, where I was talking about, first of all, I was talking about Tulsi Gabbard, and then I was talking about that The media behind Kamala Harris, all this surge and all these people just deciding that she's good, she could win.
And they put the two of those together and made it seem like I was praising Kamala Harris and saying a bunch of things that aren't even true.
sage steele
It was actually beautifully done.
A great editing job.
You know, it was just completely false.
And to do that, I would sue them.
I mean, he doesn't need to, I guess, but I would sue them.
dave rubin
I mean, again, evil, that's the word, and you gotta admire what they do because they
sage steele
spill.
The balls on them to do that, Phil.
dave rubin
Well, that's the thing.
Do they think they're going to get away with it?
sage steele
And I guess the answer— Especially someone like Rogan, though.
dave rubin
But the answer, I guess, ultimately is yes, because they keep doing it.
and they still get a certain amount of people to follow.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
So someone at MSNBC, they edit the thing, right?
And then whoever's show they put it on, they have to know it's edited,
or they didn't do their job by asking the editor, or whatever, but it's like they do it,
and they know, oh, Rogan's gonna call us out on this.
But maybe their whole game is like, oh, Rogan's gonna call on us,
more people are gonna watch our show.
That's just the nature of the clickbait, evil, bleh.
sage steele
And they've waited all, but that was gross.
I want him to assume, but yeah.
We're good for him to call it out.
How about this?
Oliver Darcy, the Reliable Sources.
Oh, he's a fat guy.
dave rubin
Yeah, he quit.
sage steele
He quit.
unidentified
He's out.
sage steele
And he is now starting his own newsletter called Status, like effective immediately.
So there's, I don't know, I want to know the why behind that one.
dave rubin
No, I mean, he's just like, he was like a mini Brian Stelter type, like he's written nonsensical things about me.
He's just another one of these people that works for the machine, the machine doesn't need you anymore, and you're pushed out.
I don't think we need to belabor that one.
sage steele
Oliver Who?
Ooh, that transitions, unfortunately, great into the WHO, the W-H-O, which on August 14th called monkeypox a global health emergency.
And just in time for the election, right?
unidentified
So what are they?
dave rubin
Well, first off, stop banging monkeys.
If you're out there banging monkeys, just stop.
That would be the first thing.
sage steele
PSA, some advice.
dave rubin
That would be just like the general thing.
But like, are people really worried about it?
First off, who would even listen to them at this point?
But again, they get a certain amount of people to listen.
There are people.
sage steele
Hello, on the planes, you've been traveling the world.
I see more masks than ever before over the last three years.
I think people are buying in.
Maybe not to that, but just in general.
dave rubin
Yeah, and the thing is, this is the part of, you know, that we never got any comeuppance with this, that Fauci still goes on The View and all that.
The fact that nobody ended up in jail, nobody, like with all of the years of lying and insanity and the horrible things they did and not going to Grandma's funeral and everything, that nobody paid the price for it, so of course they can do it again.
I mean, that's the thing.
So if it's monkey pox or if it's COVID-9 or it's a zombie apocalypse or an alien evasion, of course they could do it again.
sage steele
The Fear Monitor.
Can I tell you this real quick?
When this started a couple of weeks ago, August 14th, I was dropping my youngest off at college and my oldest called and she was in tears.
And she follows politics and the news and she's like, Mom, what is this?
Is this real?
And she was upset because she's like, this is BS.
The end of my high school.
got ruined because of COVID, you know?
Graduation, you can't do that, you can't go to prom, all those things that for 18 year olds,
that's a, those are rites of passage, that's a big deal.
And she's like, are they going to ruin my senior year of college now too?
Because you can't assume anything with MS.
I mean, it's all out on the table, right?
So I feel like there isn't as much about this.
I feel like it's almost quieted down over the last couple of weeks, but it is true because they will do whatever it takes to fear monger.
And whether it's kids, adults, middle age, there are people who are like, Oh no, should I not travel?
Should I not do this?
Are we going to get shut down again?
It's provided opportunities for good conversations with my college age kids to say, okay, what is the plan?
What would we do?
But to me, just in time for the election.
Perfect.
dave rubin
I don't know where your daughter went to school, but I assume it's not Columbia or one of those.
sage steele
It's in the South.
dave rubin
It's not one of those.
sage steele
That was the requirement.
dave rubin
Because their graduations, the same kids who had their high school graduations ruined by COVID, had their college graduations ruined by the Hamas supporters.
sage steele
Yes.
dave rubin
So it's like, yeah.
And then you are stealing something from a young person.
unidentified
You are.
dave rubin
But they take it back.
That's just in the long litany of evil things.
Yes, yes.
sage steele
But we heard Monkeypox, and then she's like, make sure you bring your wifes on the plane.
That's what they depend on.
Unfortunately, she's chill.
She gets it now, but she's more afraid because of it affecting her life.
dave rubin
Guys, I want to be clear.
Nobody is getting the monkey pox vaccine.
sage steele
Or you are fired!
dave rubin
Brock, I know you're a thing with the monkeys, but no.
sage steele
What is his thing?
Okay, talk about Israel.
Israel, this is on August 25th, intercepts hundreds of Hezbollah rockets and drones, and so basically thwarting a much larger attack.
You have that, you have Hamas killing six hostages, and this is just over the last couple of days, including, and this is heartbreaking, American-Israeli Hirsch Goldberg-Polen.
His parents, this is the part that I told you about earlier at the DNC.
His parents are the ones that got up and spoke and pleaded for their son's release.
dave rubin
Wait, wait, wait, and then they killed him after that?
sage steele
They are saying now that they believe they found the bodies.
They believe that they were killed, the six of them, Hirsch included, a couple of days before the bodies were found.
So this means the DNC was two weeks ago.
dave rubin
Oh my God.
sage steele
I know.
unidentified
That's a strange... Who knows if they'll ever know the exact timing?
sage steele
I guess if they have the bodies back you can probably determine scientifically, but devastating that that happened over the weekend.
At a press conference yesterday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, it was almost hard to watch.
He asked for forgiveness for failing to bring the hostages back alive and he said that Hamas will pay a heavy price.
So it's been a while since we've seen that number of bodies come back, frankly, and it's as bad as it gets.
dave rubin
One of the things I was worried about when I was gone was I think the last day, I think July 31st
was when Israel killed the Hamas leader in Iraq, Haniyeh I think his name is,
and so I thought that it was gonna get suddenly much worse in Israel with rockets, and my sister,
my brother-in-law is Israeli who co-founded Locals with me, and they were there with the family,
so I was really worried about that for that first 10 days that they were gonna be there in the midst of all that.
So I guess I'm...
This is going to sound strange.
I guess I'm glad to see it doesn't sound like the rockets did a lot.
Right.
sage steele
And intercepted.
And apparently, again, they were thwarting a much larger attack.
dave rubin
Man, if we just had a strong administration, it's just as simple as that.
sage steele
If only.
If only.
We didn't even touch on the fact that who the hell is running the country right now?
She's running for office.
He's on a constant vacation.
Like, we don't know.
We are right now, like, To me, the most vulnerable we've ever been.
And every day, I'm like, okay, we're okay for another day.
Can we get there?
But right now, who's doing it?
Who's doing anything?
dave rubin
That sounds hyperbolic in some sense, but it actually isn't.
Like, if you were China, why wouldn't you take Taiwan now?
If you were Hamas, why wouldn't you keep turning the screws against Israel?
It didn't matter.
If you were Russia, why wouldn't you just inflame things worse in Ukraine?
Like, you know that America's weak.
It just is.
It's sad, and hopefully it won't be much longer.
sage steele
The State of the Union.
This is August 3rd, so just a couple of days into your escape.
And this should have been the lead story for us.
New Jack City.
This is their report that in New York City, public masturbation up 51%.
Your reaction, Dave Rubin? 51%.
dave rubin
Wait, sorry, can I say that headline again?
sage steele
That's all I have.
dave rubin
Public masturbation skyrockets by 51%.
sage steele
New Yank City!
unidentified
Skyrockets!
sage steele
Yeah, we can move on.
dave rubin
That's a hard one.
sage steele
What do you want me to do?
That's disgusting.
dave rubin
Get out of here.
sage steele
No monkeys.
unidentified
No monkeys.
dave rubin
Again, that does not surprise me.
The city is in freefall.
Why wouldn't people be whacking off on the subway or whatever?
sage steele
When I was there two weeks ago, I didn't see that, thank God, but I pretty much saw everything else.
Like it is.
And this is in Manhattan.
This is like in the nice part of town.
Yeah.
So I thought you'd enjoy that.
Wow, that's interesting.
Ten days later.
This is sad.
And again, no surprise here.
San Francisco, one of my previously favorite cities.
dave rubin
Oh God, it's got to be up 80% in San Francisco.
unidentified
Okay.
sage steele
I was moving on from the masturbation topic to talk about a restaurant chain that's closing.
The last remaining Denny's restaurant in San Francisco closes.
A plague of dine-in dashers.
They just can't stay open.
And again, not surprising news considering the location.
Correct?
August 29th, California, this is disgusting.
dave rubin
I mean, if Denny's can't make it in your city, like seriously, seriously, if Denny's cannot make it.
sage steele
Well, it's understandable why Saks Fifth Avenue and everything else has closed down in downtown San Francisco.
Oh, do we, never mind, we might say this later.
I don't want to ruin, I don't want to jump ahead.
A lot happening in San Francisco, I'll just leave it at that.
California moves to reduce sentences for convicted felons, murderers who have been locked up for more than 25 years.
dave rubin
That's a picture of a man that should be convicted.
sage steele
Right there, absolutely.
So, SB 94, that's what it's officially called, would give certain people serving life without parole the chance to petition to have their sentences reviewed if their crimes were committed before June 5th, 1990.
I don't know the magic around that number.
dave rubin
God, they're insane.
It's like actually insane that you don't pick an arbitrary date to be like, that's okay, then we can figure out.
sage steele
What is that?
And you know, they're not going to say this, but I mean, the prisons in California are completely overcrowded.
Part of that, don't you have to look back to Kamala Harris for that?
dave rubin
For putting people in who were smoking weed while she then was admitting that she smoked weed.
unidentified
That she smoked weed.
sage steele
Exactly.
So, murderers, serial rapists, back out on the street potentially.
dave rubin
Uh oh, I'm feeling my blood pressure starting to rise.
unidentified
I came in here, my heart was barely beating, now it's like it's starting to go.
sage steele
We're taking, this is taking you all over the grid on this one.
Okay, it's going to continue to increase with this one.
California Democrats pass a bill to give illegal immigrants up to $150,000 in interest-free home loans.
Listen to Nancy Pelosi.
bill maher
The California lawmakers just passed a law.
It hasn't been signed by Governor Newsom, but giving government assistance to undocumented immigrants to buy houses.
That's kind of a different place than the Democratic Party used to be on immigration, is it not?
And like I say, that's what the country's going to do.
But that's certainly where California is.
nancy pelosi
Well, let me just say, immigration had always been a bipartisan issue.
I refer you to the... But not free houses.
Well, it's not free housing.
It's the American dream, being available to more people.
But California's always in the lead.
Maybe others will follow that lead, but that's up to those states.
But we are very blessed here with beautiful diversity of our newcomers.
bill maher
So you'd vote for this law?
nancy pelosi
Excuse me?
bill maher
So you'd vote for this law?
nancy pelosi
Well, I'm not familiar with exactly what it is, but making the American dream of home ownership available to all people is something we have to do for people who are here now.
bill maher
This is before you were a citizen.
This is undocumented.
This is for the undocumented.
nancy pelosi
Well, what I would like to do is move them to documented.
They said that I can move them to documented.
unidentified
Thank you.
nancy pelosi
One of the best things that we can do for our economy is to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
forum.
dave rubin
It's back.
It's back, the searing headache.
sage steele
I'm sorry, I told you we were going to come back up into it.
dave rubin
It's back, watching that video.
First off, the American Dream is for Americans.
sage steele
For Americans.
dave rubin
Maybe Nancy doesn't know that.
$150,000 and Bill, who you know, I've come to love and respect Bill and I like him as a friend and I'll smoke weed with him whenever he wants, which is pretty much the only time I smoke weed.
But no, you cannot vote for that.
He needs to not soft-pedal that.
sage steele
He was soft on that.
Yeah, like, come on, man.
For him to push for it, he knows it's wrong.
dave rubin
$150,000.
When you bought your first house, did the government give you $150,000 for that house?
sage steele
They'd give me anything.
And you know what?
I don't want it.
I don't want it.
Like, I've earned that, you know?
That's just, I don't know, that's a different generation, I guess.
dave rubin
And she, by the way, she also then just admits the thing.
She admits the thing.
Oh, yes, I want them to be legal.
Meaning, I want to document them, and I want them to vote for us, and we're going to give them stuff, so we'll have basically a new This is going to sound harsh, but it will basically be a new system of slavery for a certain set of people.
That is just true.
We will give them enough stuff so they will never leave us.
And we will own them forever.
That really is it.
sage steele
She flat out said it.
Said the quiet part out loud.
But you know what?
Once again, I give them credit.
They're smart.
They have let everybody flood in.
I mean, now we're up to, what, 15 million?
I mean, we don't even know the correct number.
We'll never know the correct number, but minimum 1011.
And give them free stuff.
And by the way, when you come in, here's your money.
Sign here, not knowing this is a ballot, or sign here, and we have you for life.
So I give them credit once again.
dave rubin
It's also insane.
So we're going to give you $150,000 for a house.
Also, when you show up at the airport, You're not gonna have to show an ID.
Regular Americans, they have to show an ID.
We're gonna have a separate line.
I mean, you know that, right?
You saw that thing?
Like, you're gonna have a separate line.
You can just come in.
You won't have to wear a mask.
sage steele
Like, it's all... You don't even have to have a name on your plane ticket to board.
If you just say, I'm seeking amnesty, then you can go on.
So I thought about trying that.
dave rubin
You should try that.
sage steele
And with a little phone, little hidden camera recording.
What would they say to me?
I mean, I can change the way I speak a little bit.
Yeah, it's probably free.
I mean, it's a free plane too, right?
And first class, right?
unidentified
I want more than pretzels when I get up there.
sage steele
The DEI, I feel, maybe we'll, okay, is the blood pressure, how is it?
It's up here.
It was low and now it's back up.
Maybe this will bring it back down a little bit, because I feel like this is kind of good news.
It's all about DEI, because now all of a sudden there are a couple of universities and even businesses who are saying, huh, maybe this wasn't such a good idea.
University of Missouri, Mizzou, eliminating DEI altogether on campus there.
Auburn, dissolving their DEI office as well.
That's already happened.
New College of Florida clears it out, tossing hundreds of LGBTQ and then CRT propaganda,
those books in dumpsters, and also the University of Florida.
So all of a sudden, DEI and universities is going away.
So to me, that's a huge deal, right?
dave rubin
Yes.
sage steele
All right.
And then the state, I'm trying, the new state law in the state of Florida, the free state of Florida where we all now live, the new state law prohibits the use of state funds for DEI practices.
So that's why you see the Florida and New College of Florida and others doing it now.
So thank you, Ron DeSantis.
That is not what those state funds should be used for.
dave rubin
Imagine a state not paying people to be racist.
unidentified
I know.
sage steele
What a concept.
And then the Supreme Court, this actually also was good news for Title IX.
Supreme Court blocking Biden's Title IX rules that allowed men in women's sports.
There's more to it.
Oh, that's great news.
It is, but of course there will be appeals, etc.
But yeah, we all know Riley Gaines and love Riley Gaines and she kind of helped break that news.
I mean, that was a really big deal as Title IX has Just devastated so many.
And so there's progress there, yes.
I think this is also really good news.
You mentioned you asked which university my youngest kid went to.
Again, all three are in the South for a reason.
I told them I would not pay for their college education if they just stayed up in New England or in EIBC schools.
Yep, I still haven't fully moved out, about to close down the house in like a week.
But because of places like this.
Columbia University.
The embattled president, Manoush Jafek, she resigned.
She resigned.
So this after, yeah, Columbia, like we all know what happened, all the criticism she received, rightfully so.
including the pressure from Congress to resign.
And I didn't realize that Congress had pressured her as well.
But this comes after the pro-Palestinian student protest, etc.
Blocking the kids who just want to get to class from getting to class.
So she's out.
And then New York Republican Representative Elise Stefanik, who we love,
she tweeted this.
She put three down, so many to go.
Because of course, she joins Penn President Liz McGill and then the Harvard President Clyde Ngai, who fought and battled
to stay on.
So those three universities that were the most obnoxious with allowing these protesters, they're all gone.
dave rubin
I take all those things as a win, but in some respect those institutions are so infected, they're like zombies.
you know, have a little more time, maybe, you know what I mean?
Like they've been infected with the virus.
sage steele
Like it's too late anyway.
dave rubin
Well, it's just like, okay, so she steps away, but would you still wanna send your kid to Columbia now?
Do you think that means they're not gonna be taught these things?
Do you think they don't figure out other ways, or they don't use the phrase diversity, equity, inclusion, they just call it something else, or how many other faculty members are still, so it's a win.
It's definitely a win in like, sort of like a large sense, but like in the granular sense, to me, I would just let all those universities, you wanna go that way, just crumble, And let's just keep exposing them and everything else.
But yeah, there's a way.
unidentified
True.
sage steele
Well, and as a parent of college-age kids who are talking about these and making these decisions, I know a lot of parents who are like, I know, but it's Harvard.
I know, but it's Penn.
So the status thing still matters to so many parents.
And I'm like, at the end of the day, no one asked me my GPA.
Thank goodness.
You get the piece of paper.
It's more about life experience anyway.
You know what I mean?
And so to me, you couldn't pay me money.
And I'm paying a lot for three at once to be at any of those schools.
dave rubin
Sage, you'd be very proud of me.
I did have to take one video call the entire month with my business manager just about,
because I did this life insurance thing, and they were asking me about how we want to do
college for the kids.
And I was like, we're not doing college for the kids.
I'm gonna set aside a certain amount of money that we're gonna figure out how you do this tax deference
and all that kind of stuff.
But if they decide they want to go to school, we'll talk about it then,
but I'm not planning on them going 16 years from now.
We'll see where the world is, but there's a lot of other things I would rather do with the money.
Like you guys have your heads on straight when you're leaving.
I'm going to figure out a way to help you build a business or something else, but I'm not sending you there to think that.
sage steele
Because we've all been trained as parents to think a certain way and it isn't.
Are you going to college?
It's where?
dave rubin
It wasn't even like a question for me, I was just like, nope, we're not doing that.
sage steele
Yeah, I think if I were in your shoes right now, I would probably do the same thing, especially when you look at, they come out and they don't have a job anyway, most of them, you know what I mean?
So the trade schools and getting associates degrees, if anything else, that's where to focus.
dave rubin
You did it right, because I've been in your car when all three of your kids called you, unprompted, and you did not say there's anyone else in the car, and I heard your conversations with your kids, and you are a good mama, and they are good kids.
unidentified
Thank you, it's the hardest job ever, but the best job ever.
sage steele
I mentioned the schools, but then the businesses, so Harley-Davidson, and they got pounded too.
So they're dropping the DEI, all the work initiatives as well.
I think they got a little bit of a mini-dose of that Bud Light treatment.
And Jack Daniels as well.
Don't you sense a little bit of a shift there?
dave rubin
Wow, alright, that's nice.
sage steele
Jay, happy news.
Okay, bad faith actors news.
Oh, this stuff is deep.
I'm trying to predict where his blood pressure's gonna go.
I don't know, you guys.
So, this is on August 2nd.
Donald Trump says meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg called him after the assassination attempt, and Zuck said he is not going to support a Democrat.
He also apologized for Facebook and Instagram censoring those iconic photos of Donald Trump with the blood running down his face and the fist up in the air.
And, okay, we have video.
Take a look at this.
unidentified
said that the picture wasn't altered. At first they said it was altered, then they said no,
it was a bug, it was a mistake. So my point is, is these companies would not allow any
information out about what happened. So Mark Zuckerberg called me. First of all, he called
donald j trump
me a few times. He called me after the event and he said that was really amazing, it was
very brave and, you know, and he actually announced he's not going to support a Democrat
because he can't because he respected me for what I did that day.
I think what I did maybe was a norm.
To me, it was a normal response.
But I was called by Mark Zuckerberg yesterday, the day before, on this same subject.
And he actually apologized.
He said they made a mistake, etc., etc., and they're correcting the mistake.
dave rubin
They're always making mistakes in one direction, which is kind of interesting.
sage steele
Fascinating, right?
And then, Zuck, I mean, this admission to me was huge.
He said in a letter that the Biden-Harris administration repeatedly pressured his company, which includes Facebook, of course, Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp, to censor content that is protected free speech.
So he flat out admitted that.
And this is in front of the House Judiciary Committee.
And he was saying it with Jim Jordan, the one asking the questions.
And he said that his goal moving forward was to, quote, be neutral and not play a role one way or another for any political party or ideology.
He said he doesn't even want the appearance of playing a role, will not be making political contributions.
But he admitted that he listened to the Biden-Harris administration and censoring for all of these years.
dave rubin
Yeah, well, not, I mean, first off, we know some of that.
Jim Jordan even told me that one of my tweets was on the list of things that got taken down.
I had tweeted out in September, I think, no, in August of 21, or no, no, July of 21, that mandates are coming, vaccines aren't working, mandates are coming.
He said that was on the list of things that the government pressured.
I said, well, what's your, can you get anything from the government?
He's like, no, you don't even get a letter of apology.
So they can infringe on your First Amendment right to free speech, and you don't get anything.
You don't get a letter.
I kept saying to the janitor, could someone in this building?
We were at the Capitol.
I was like, could someone apologize?
He's like, no, that's not how it works.
unidentified
So I guess that's nice.
sage steele
I was taken aback that he sat there and admitted all of it.
He didn't even have to do that.
You know what I mean?
dave rubin
But I guess the real takeaway, though, is that once again, they can do the evil and no one gets fired.
Nobody gets demoted.
It just keeps moving on.
sage steele
And Kamala Harris still has not had a press conference in her 44, 45 days since taking over.
Because if I'm a reporter at that press conference, I'm asking that question.
dave rubin
Yeah.
sage steele
Absolutely.
And this happened, when was this?
This was in time for her interview last week.
dave rubin
Right.
sage steele
Maybe this was asked by Dana Bash and it ended up on the cutting room floor, you know, but that he said the Biden-Harris administration told me to do this and I did it.
That question should have been asked.
dave rubin
Right.
We know that Joe is not in charge of that administration, so did you know about this?
sage steele
That's what it would have been.
Well, dear, let me.
This is kind of gross.
Not as surprised either with Thomas Crooks.
dave rubin
Wait, this is worse than the New York City thing?
sage steele
Oh, not that kind of gross.
No, just like pathetic and shouldn't be shocking, but Thomas Crooks, the young man who shot Donald Trump.
So we found out that he spent months and months engaging in rifle training at the same facility used by DHS, Department of Homeland Security, and multiple local and federal law enforcement agencies.
That's according to newly released records.
And oh, by the way, his body is gone.
Gone.
dave rubin
Wait, what?
sage steele
Yeah.
No one, no one knows.
I mean, there was, okay, we know why he died, autopsy results, I guess, but where, where did it go?
Where is he buried?
dave rubin
It was released to the family, or I guess they're saying it was cremated.
sage steele
Nobody even knew his body was gone until August 5th.
So he was training... The fact that he was training with the same place where DHS trains, federal, local law enforcement, you... I don't remember this happened after or before you left, but when, you know, people now say, OK, that he was in Washington, D.C., he's got these offshore accounts, these are all reports, etc.
Then no social media.
There's so much fishy here.
And I still, I don't understand.
How is this not being talked about?
dave rubin
So he somehow managed to train where DHS trains, and yet he was able to shoot on a slightly sloped roof?
sage steele
Slightly sloped.
dave rubin
Even though they're not allowed to be on a slightly sloped roof?
Exactly, slightly sloped.
sage steele
That makes me wonder.
Yep.
So, Crooks, hopefully we hear more about that, because as a citizen...
Yeah.
I want to know.
I want to know.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, we mentioned him earlier and I couldn't wait to tell you this one.
At the time I had to go in order.
He has COVID again.
Poor guy.
For the third time.
Any guess on how many times he's been vaccinated and, well, vaccinated once, boosted?
dave rubin
He's got to have been boosted, what, five times?
sage steele
Six times.
And he's got it again.
dave rubin
And he's got COVID.
sage steele
But now, apparently, he's hospitalized with West Nile virus.
I guess he didn't have a vaccine for that.
dave rubin
Surely you can't be serious.
sage steele
Dead.
dave rubin
He's right now hospitalized?
sage steele
With West Nile virus, yes.
We need more boosters!
We need more vaccines!
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
I don't wish anyone ill, but like... Once again, thoughts and prayers.
sage steele
Well, but you talk about, I mean, evil with a capital E. Yeah.
He's the definition of evil.
unidentified
Yeah.
sage steele
And then, we end with this.
You know the Gen Z influencer, Harry Sisson?
unidentified
Yes.
sage steele
You know young Harry?
dave rubin
Yes, little Harry Sisson.
Yes, I've had some exchanges with him.
sage steele
I know, classic.
He isn't even an American, Dave.
Watch.
dave rubin
What?
unidentified
Born in Singapore.
And I lived there for only like a year and then I moved to Dubai and I lived there for five years and then I moved to Dublin, Ireland.
I lived there for around nine, so that's pretty much where I grew up.
And then I moved to the United States and went to high school here and now I'm going to college here.
dave rubin
He's not an American?
Is that unclear, whether he's possibly an American?
Like, maybe he got the citizenship?
Nobody even... I mean, I don't even know what this kid... Harry Sisson.
sage steele
Sissy Sisson, yes.
Olympics, you were there for the beginning of it, and all the drama at the beginning.
I saw that trend.
dave rubin
Spectacular.
sage steele
And that was awesome.
I know, I wish I could have been sitting here with you for that one.
The Olympic boxer, was the boxer making news at that point?
No, I don't think so.
So, a female Olympic boxer, well, this is the one, yeah, this is the young lady.
So she quit her match in tears because she was being forced to fight.
a biological male. He's from Algeria.
Iman Kellef. He won the gold medal in the 145 pound division and he beat several women
along the way. And it was there was such an uproar. So that's the man.
dave rubin
That's a man.
sage steele
Him, who of course says he's a she.
And the internet was just afire with all of this because there was testing back and forth
and there were questions and they're like, well, sometimes you have this disorder, which
means you could be either.
But she, he has a Y chromosome, won the gold medal.
And there were a lot of female boxers along the way who then kind of did their thing to
stand up and do this when they lost the boxing match.
Right.
That was the only thing that they could say is, you know, women.
But in the meantime, you know, the Olympics leaves it up to each sport as far as how they
determine that.
And of all sports, boxing.
Right.
So that was unfortunate.
And then, I mean, very masculine.
I mean, we see the whole thing.
And then as soon as the Olympics were over and he had the gold medal, a complete glow
up.
And all of a sudden, makeup and hair, I'll send you the picture.
It was, it was awesome.
If you're wondering about the Olympic medal count, were you?
dave rubin
We did all right?
Okay, okay.
We still got something cooking here?
unidentified
Yep, yep.
sage steele
Tied China for gold, but overall we won.
How about some sports news for you?
Because, I mean, your timing is always perfect, by the way, because you come back just in time for football, and most importantly, right before basketball training camps tip off as well.
dave rubin
Right, right, right.
It's the dog day of summer, and you're like, not much happening, yeah.
sage steele
Yes, exactly.
Skip Bayless!
dave rubin
Yeah, what happened to Skip?
sage steele
Out at Fox Sports.
dave rubin
Oh, interesting.
sage steele
He's on, yeah, the final day for Skip Bayless has arrived.
I worked with Skip at ESPN for many years.
I loved Skip Bayless, the human being.
I thought some of the stuff he did was nuts.
dave rubin
Yeah, he's a little over the top and whatever, yeah.
sage steele
But he's such a good soul and nobody works harder than that man, but apparently he's out at Fox Sports.
dave rubin
Wait, got fired, or?
sage steele
I think that just contracts not being renewed, it wasn't like a sudden firing.
dave rubin
Does he, is it, people know what he's doing, or?
sage steele
I haven't seen that.
I mean, he's 70, you know what I mean?
And he's made tons of money, so who knows?
But he's the ultimate workaholic, so we'll see.
But I don't think people ever will give him enough credit for what he did in the creation, basically, of Stephen A. Smith, of that debate model there.
And then he left, and he went to Fox, and then really, Shannon Sharpe should be thanking Skip Bayless as well, and now Shannon and Stephen A. So anyway, I love Skip Bayless.
dave rubin
Was he on ESPN before Stephen A.?
sage steele
Bayless?
dave rubin
Yeah.
sage steele
Yes.
Yeah.
dave rubin
So he did kind of create the more, like, over-the-top, direct... He's the one.
sage steele
So it was Cold Pizza.
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cold Pizza was the morning thing.
sage steele
And that was Skip, and then it was First Take, and then Stephen A. really started to come up like that, but Stephen A. says it, too.
He gives Skip a ton of credit for that, so we'll see what happens if he ends up elsewhere, but he really has had a remarkable career, pissing people off for all these years as well.
dave rubin
What were they thinking, calling that morning show Cold Pizza?
sage steele
You didn't like the name of it, Cold Pizza?
dave rubin
I got it.
I got it.
No, you're just healthy.
sage steele
I have cold pizza for breakfast.
dave rubin
No, no, I get it.
unidentified
I get it.
dave rubin
I get what cold pizza is.
sage steele
I know you get it, but you just didn't like the title.
That's fine.
First take's that much better.
Okay, speaking of firing, so no, he was not fired, but my girl, Samantha Ponder, host of NFL Countdown on ESPN, she was fired three weeks before the NFL season began, which is insanity.
Yeah, I guess I was emotional that day.
I was in Oxford, dropping off my daughter at college when this happened, and it was shocking.
Because at the end of the day, she had a year left on her contract.
They also fired Robert Griffin III, former Heisman Trophy winner, quarterback, etc.
But they fired Sam, and she was shocked.
This was out of the blue.
And the funny thing is, they said it was a cost-cutting thing.
And if you're making a lot of money, fine.
But it's not like they didn't know that, because they signed her to it.
And if you are going to make a move, probably do it at the end of the last season, February.
Right, you don't do it right.
Let's say draft time, April, but to wait until the very last second before the season begins,
it shows a lack of, well, common sense to make sure that your new host will gel with
your analysts, Rex Ryan, Teddy Bruschi, Randy Moss, all who love Samantha Ponder, but they're
saying it's cost-cutting.
Sam was the only other woman at that network besides me, I mean, I was gone though, who
continued to speak up for women in sports and against the trans stuff.
She had been liking some tweets from Kirk Herbstreit, from myself.
Kirk Herbstreit spoke up and said, of course men shouldn't compete against women.
Sam does that.
They're saying it's cost-cutting.
I am suspicious, but for her to like those tweets, be a little more vocal, and then all
of a sudden chopped, interesting, and it just is.
dave rubin
Cost-cutting kind of never really means cost-cutting, because I'm going to guess that every guy that you just mentioned right there on the analyst side probably makes more than her.
That would be my guess.
Of course.
I don't know.
sage steele
I mean, usually the former athletes and coaches end up making a lot more.
dave rubin
So if you're cost-cutting, how much could she have possibly been making that it's going to move the dollar to ESPN?
sage steele
It's not, especially when McAfee's making $18 million, Stephen A's probably going to get $20 to $25 in his next deal within the next nine months.
It's hard to defend them when they seem to keep making political moves.
So, Sam Ponder will bounce back, let me tell you, that's for sure.
So we're going from sports to airplanes, and this video was awful.
And I played it a hundred times because I kept thinking, can you imagine being a passenger in this plane in Sao Paulo, Brazil, an aircraft that crashes?
take a look.
unidentified
Oh my god.
Jesus.
dave rubin
Oh my god.
sage steele
Yeah, just like out of the sky.
I haven't heard anything about what happened, reasons why, but that's a passenger plane.
It's not like a military plane carrying cargo.
And I'm trying to remember how many... I assume everyone died?
Everyone died, yeah.
But the video did be caught.
Anyway.
Tragic there.
And then, do you remember the Alaska Airlines pilot, the former Alaska Airlines pilot, his name was Joe Emerson?
So he basically tried to kill the engines of a plane that he was co-piloting mid-flight.
Joe Emerson.
He says now he was dealing with the effects of taking mushrooms, so he took a few too many shrooms and they affected him.
dave rubin
I made a big mistake.
sage steele
Yes.
So shrooms, I guess, At your own peril, be careful.
But he was facing 83 charges of attempted murder.
Because when you reach up and pull the red levers and try to shut off your engines at 30,000 feet, that's a death wish.
For some reason, the engines continued to run and the other co-pilots grabbed him and stuff.
But so it went from 83 attempted murder charges to just state and federal, including 83 counts of reckless endangerment, et cetera.
Prosecutors could offer a plea deal, et cetera.
But Joe Emerson, please don't pilot my plane.
And don't take shrooms.
Maybe before you're... Took it a couple days prior.
Apparently some people, the effects don't wear off quickly enough.
dave rubin
I mean, I'm 20 years out of that game, so I don't know.
I don't know what to say.
sage steele
And then the other day, unfortunately, two Delta pilots, Delta employees, I should say, were killed at the Atlanta Airport.
They were working on the plane itself, and tires exploded, and two people died.
So there seems to always be plane news, you know?
And these days, so it's bigger than just missing your connection because of the endless delays.
Apparently, there's a lot of other things.
dave rubin
One thing I did notice from being off, and again, I was mostly home, but is there a new sort of post-COVID certain level of anxiety and tension at airports that did not exist pre-COVID, or is that just me at this point?
sage steele
Well, I just think it's more recent.
dave rubin
It seems like something, like the level of stress at an airport, if you're just looking at it, now most people are just staring at their phones like drones, but just the amount of sort of like tension that you just kind of like feel at airports, and maybe again, because I was off, so I felt it a little bit more there.
sage steele
Yes.
dave rubin
When I was just around people.
But something about flying in general, I think, has gotten much, much worse than it was five, ten years ago.
unidentified
Oh, I do too.
sage steele
Absolutely.
I think COVID and the tension with that and the flight attendants who were snappy, understandably so, and then the passengers who were jerks to them, I think it's a domino effect.
But now it seems to be more recent where, I mean, I will do anything to not connect because the chances of me making that flight are brutal.
More and more luggage piled up, so I don't know exactly what's going on.
But yes, not good.
unidentified
Wow.
sage steele
All your flights were good down to Mexico?
dave rubin
My flights were all right.
unidentified
Okay.
dave rubin
We made it.
sage steele
We made it back.
Okay, good.
This is sad, too.
Some deaths in the month of August.
Halloween actor Charles Cyphers, brief illness.
He died at the age of 85.
And then August 10th, former YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki.
unidentified
I think it was Wojcicki, if I'm not mistaken.
dave rubin
I met with her at YouTube.
We had a meeting.
How did she pass?
She wasn't that old.
sage steele
She had a two-year battle with cancer.
She was just 56 years old.
She'd stepped down, I think, last year from being the CEO.
But remember, six months ago, her 19-year-old son was found dead in his dorm at UC Berkeley of an apparent drug overdose.
So her husband released a statement, and I just cannot imagine right now what that family is going through with the death of their 19-year-old son and now Susan after a two-year battle with cancer.
dave rubin
Look, I had a fairly tense meeting with her a couple years ago at the height of the censorship thing.
Oh, really?
And they let me come in, and there were lawyers there.
It was just me and, like, ten YouTube people and her, and it was somewhat tense.
But that's very, I mean, that's very sad, obviously.
sage steele
It's heartbreaking.
Yeah, just 56.
Also, at the age of 88, Phil Donahue Yeah.
dave rubin
I used to love Phil Donahue.
I did too.
I remember coming home from school, my mom would be watching Phil Donahue at 4 o'clock on NBC.
I think it was syndicated, but it was NBC in New York.
And him running out into the audience, and it was just such a Actually, when I do my book tour and some stand-up stuff, that's what I kind of do, like a crazy roadshow, throwing things into the crowd and getting people screaming.
To me, I'm sort of reincarnating Phil Donahue.
I really, really like him.
Politically, I think we were very different.
As he got older, he got more and more left, which was a little bizarre because people usually go the other way as they get older.
But he was a broadcasting legend.
sage steele
Absolutely.
I mean, that's when you know you're an 80s baby.
70s baby growing up.
I mean, does he get credit for Oprah?
dave rubin
No, I mean, he created that thing.
sage steele
The whole concept, the format.
dave rubin
How many of those shows were there?
If you look at how many of those shows there were, probably between like 86 and 95, there must have been 200 of those shows.
sage steele
So then you go to Sally Jesse.
See, everyone in this room has no idea what we're talking about.
dave rubin
What the hell are they talking about?
We're on TikTok.
We're so cool.
sage steele
Sally Desi-Rafael, Ricky Lake.
So, thoughts and prayers with all those families, frankly.
Okay, a couple of celebrities.
This is so annoying.
Ben Stiller.
dave rubin
You're doing the dad thing?
sage steele
Go away.
Go away, Ben Stiller.
dave rubin
Oh, I thought you were saying Ben Stiller died.
sage steele
No, I'm sorry, let's move away from dad.
That wasn't a very smooth segue there, was it?
He says that he wishes, this is, okay, it was, what was it, White Men for Kamala?
Is that what it was called, basically?
dave rubin
Oh God, Stiller, now you're gonna ruin your... He's gonna ruin the movies for me?
What?
unidentified
He is.
sage steele
He says he wishes he were black.
He was on a call for Kamala Harris being president.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't give it away.
Let him say it.
unidentified
Watch.
Get out and vote and donate.
And she's also a historic candidate.
You know, it's going to be the first woman president.
And that's incredibly exciting.
And, you know, she's Indian.
She's black.
She's everything.
You could be more than one thing.
It's incredible.
You know, I'm Jewish and Irish.
I wish I was black.
Every white Jewish guy wishes he was black.
You know, it's just get out there and vote and donate and like take advantage.
This is such an important time right now and this wave of energy that's happening.
We got to keep going with it.
So please do everything you can.
dave rubin
It's just so pathetic.
It's just, like, it's the thing.
It's just, like, it's pathetic at every level.
sage steele
Every Jewish white guy wishes they were black.
dave rubin
Yeah, maybe on the basketball court a little bit, but I still got it.
I still got it.
You know, I've been playing the last couple weeks, guys.
Wait till you see.
But, like... Go away.
It's just nothing.
It's just nothing.
Is she qualified?
She's Indian and black.
And remember, she celebrated Kwanzaa.
And it's just, it's all bullshit.
And it has nothing to do with competency.
sage steele
Oh, that's so disappointing.
dave rubin
But the way she got on the stage...
I know they ruined it for us.
You ever see Heartbreak Kid?
It's pretty good.
I haven't seen Heartbreak Kid.
Where he goes, he marries this girl that he barely knows and then they go on their honeymoon
and then she turns out to be completely insane.
sage steele
Oh, no, I didn't see that one.
dave rubin
It's actually.
sage steele
Really?
I know I love him, it makes me sad.
But like, and I think they were intentionally clueless.
Other celebrity news, Taylor Swift canceled a concert in Vienna after an ISIS plot was narrowly foiled by police.
dave rubin
I don't know why that's funny to me.
sage steele
So, I know he's laughing because everybody almost got blown up.
dave rubin
That was just funny to me.
sage steele
Go on, go on.
dave rubin
But like, can you imagine I would've come back and ISIS took out Taylor Swift?
Like.
unidentified
Yeah.
sage steele
Of all people.
unidentified
Of all people that... Yeah, he's going to stick with Wentz, isn't he?
sage steele
Please stick with Wentz.
And then JLo and Ben.
It's over again.
It's over again.
Divorce.
Yep.
One more time.
So at some point, JLo, you got to look in the mirror, don't you?
This is number four.
Done.
dave rubin
It's her fourth.
sage steele
I think it's her fourth marriage and divorce.
dave rubin
Because it's twice to him?
sage steele
Was she married to him the first time?
No, they were just together.
dave rubin
Do you know that I dedicated my first book to Ben Affleck?
unidentified
What?
dave rubin
I dedicated my first book to Ben Affleck because he went on real time with Bill Maher that time with Sam Harris and they were fighting about religion and everything and it was like one of my wake up moments because he was so insane and ridiculous and over the top and people think he was on steroids because he was training for Batman.
unidentified
You're kidding.
sage steele
I did not know that.
Any regrets?
This one?
Don't Burn This Book?
Oh my gosh.
Look at this.
Okay, I need to put my glasses back on to see this.
Okay, I'm going to take this home.
You haven't signed it.
I think that's it.
How do you feel?
Because we took you on a bit of a rollercoaster ride with the blood pressure, with all the different news.
Some obnoxious news, which you expected.
Some stupidity in the political landscape.
Some good news.
I think something's trending upward.
What would you say is the best news that I have shared with you?
dave rubin
Oh, it's the RFK thing, by far.
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
By far.
Like, that is the thing that can save America.
If you can take the old-school liberal and combine them with an American-loving conservative that is willing to live with people who are a little bit different, which most conservatives are, that's America.
That's freedom.
That's what we have to sell.
We have the best product.
You know, I kept thinking this.
We have the best product in America.
Freedom.
It's the best product man-made.
It's the best product that God ever gave us.
And all we have to do is market it a little bit better against these crazy lunatics.
I think we can do that.
I think we can do that.
sage steele
I guess I'm back.
dave rubin
I feel like I'm back.
sage steele
So there's hope.
Yes.
My last question for you then, because the way this began was unforgettable.
With you, thank you for sharing that experience with the Vultures.
You said Vulture, and I'm like, that means like death and destruction.
So I was scared.
And it was the exact opposite.
You Googled it.
dave rubin
It's true.
sage steele
Yeah, I had no idea.
So I have a feeling you're going to be carrying that experience, that moment with you, not just in the next year, as you kick off your new year today, but forever.
Really, right?
So what specifically do you think, how do you think that might affect you going forward?
Today, every day, coming into work, sharing with America, certainly at home.
dave rubin
Knowing how crazy all the politics stuff is and doing what we do and everything else, I just want to be a part of fixing this thing.
Again, I have this physical stuff I want.
I have the family I want.
I have that.
So now if I can help the other thing...
To whatever extent I can, for whatever little bit people like you and I can like nudge this in one way or the other and make people maybe think about things a little bit differently or not be so angry about things or whatever, then that's what I'll keep doing.
Working with amazing people and doing all that, and man, did I pick the right host for this thing or what?
sage steele
Oh, no.
dave rubin
I think we did.
sage steele
This is the biggest honor for me that you trusted me with this.
And most importantly, literally, I think it takes courage to do what you do.
To take that month off, like, especially in an election year, and there's so much happening, it's literally changing the course of this country and the world based on what happens here, right?
And to come back, and now, buckle up everybody, Rubin's back, With new graphics and everything.
dave rubin
I'm going to take you to lunch.
Is it too early for tequila?
sage steele
Hell no, it's not too early.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
sage steele
Let's go.
I am a lightweight though, so only one.
Only one quick shot.
dave rubin
And the Rubin Report.
sage steele
Wait, what?
dave rubin
And the Rubin Report.
donald j trump
Donald.
unidentified
Donald.
Donald, you must move your head.
Shenzhen, you die.
And I've never got the chance to say goodbye.
Darn it.
I don't say goodbye.
You need to remember your training.
Move your head.
I cannot explain.
I must go.
Wait.
Genzo.
If I never see you again... Incom... I'll see you later, Space Cowboy.
But you will see me again, because there's one last thing that I must do.
If you want to really see something to say, Thank you, Ginza.
Export Selection