Sept. 1, 2024 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| A few years ago, you get cancelled just for stating your political views. | ||
| Back when we were doing Reagan, it was attempted to cancel me a couple of times based on untruths. | ||
| Politically, I'm an independent. | ||
| I always have been. | ||
| I voted both ways over, what is it, five decades now. | ||
| And I've really kind of been that way and pretty private about my politics. | ||
| But, uh, I felt that, uh, this, uh, election is one where everybody really needed to take a side and being vocal. | ||
| We usually, I don't like to hear actors talk about who they're for and all that stuff because, you know, what do we do for a living? | ||
| You know, and I don't know. | ||
| But I just I didn't like it that our that our judicial system was being misused for political | ||
| purposes and I've thought it was an assault on our constitution and just as a citizen I need to | ||
| speak out. | ||
| I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is an actor, a musician, a television personality, | ||
| and star of the upcoming biographical film Reagan coming out August 30th. | ||
| Dennis Quaid, pleasure to have you on The Rubin Report. | ||
| Dave, great to be here. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Oh, it's my pleasure. | ||
| I'm a big fan, and we were going through your catalog this morning, and I'm just going to read off a couple movies. | ||
| People have seen all of them a million times, but Footloose, Parent Trap, The Rookie, G.I. | ||
| Joe, Day After Tomorrow, Any Given Sunday, Flight of the Phoenix, The Right Stuff, Traffic, The Alamo, Great Balls of Fire. | ||
| And now I'm going to show you a trailer of one of your movies because this is a top 10 all-time movie for me. | ||
| I'm a child of the 80s and I just watched the trailer again this morning | ||
| and it captures something that I think we have lost in this country, inner space. | ||
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Test pilot Tuck Pendleton wants to make history. | |
| Supermarket clerk Jack Putter needs a vacation. | ||
| Sir, I'm sorry. | ||
| Jack, you're late. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| You know it's coupon day. | ||
| Lieutenant Pendleton is about to be miniaturized, placed into this needle, and then injected into this rabbit. | ||
| Rock and roll. | ||
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But something went wrong. | |
| And Tuck's about to get a new destination. | ||
| Inside Jack Putter. | ||
| I'm not a man. | ||
| Hello, can you hear me? | ||
| I'm possessed! | ||
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Now, Jack's got twice the problems. | |
| How you doing, Jack? | ||
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But he's double the man. | |
| With Tuck on his side. | ||
| I can't get more accounts! | ||
| In his gut. | ||
| And on his case. | ||
| You're not gonna bag groceries all your life, are you, Jack? | ||
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And only 24 hours left for Jack to get out of danger. | |
| So that Tuck can get out of Jack. | ||
| Dennis Quaid. | ||
| Martin Short. | ||
| Give yourself a shot of adventure. | ||
| Innerspace. | ||
| Right up until your intro to it, right up, and I thought you were going to say the right stuff, but it was The Inner Space. | ||
| But it was Inner Space. | ||
| Dennis, I got to tell you, that movie, I don't know, I guess I was born in 76, so I was probably about 11 or 12 years old when I saw it. | ||
| The sci-fi element, your miniaturized Martin Short, the acting, and the fun. | ||
| Humor, fun. | ||
| The trailer, it was funny and fun. | ||
| What happened to movies like that, man? | ||
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Agreed. | |
| What happened to movies like that? | ||
| We take things a little bit too seriously, maybe these days, right? | ||
| And instead of just having some good old fashioned fun, Innerspace is probably the movie that I'm most recognized for around the world, in fact. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I've been in India and somebody will say, Hey, Innerspace. | ||
| Now, how did they actually shrink you for that? | ||
| Or was that the magic of Hollywood? | ||
| It was a long process. | ||
| We did it at the end. | ||
| I thought, should we run it? | ||
| I mean, in the microwave, you know? | ||
| So because 1987 obviously feels a long time ago and you have now, what, three, four decades really, four at least, in the biz. | ||
| Have you seen that shift? | ||
| I mean, sort of away from fun, away from original stories. | ||
| That's the other reason why I love that movie so much. | ||
| It was just so new to me. | ||
| Versus we're just getting so many retreads of things and Ghostbusters 9 and just the reboot and all of that. | ||
| It does feel like there's been a dryness of that creative well. | ||
| Well, I find that new movies squeak through these days as well. | ||
| Sound of Freedom, every once in a while I'll see a rare bust out comedy that I really like. | ||
| People back then used to complain about the movies as well, believe it or not. | ||
| I guess that's an ongoing thing, but it's definitely not like it used to be. | ||
| I will say that for one thing, the studios don't, don't make as many movies as they used to. | ||
| It used to be with every studio, their major studio, there'd be at least 40 movies, uh, you know, times that times four or five, it's about 200 movies coming out. | ||
| And now they, uh, major studio might make eight. | ||
| Uh, and they all got to be big pin poles and they seem to be the same, all dark and, uh, some kind of, you know, future metallic thing, or they have to have some kind of political bent to them that, uh, people don't want to see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was that always there, you think, the political bent? | ||
| I mean, people talk about, you know, the blacklists of way back when in Hollywood and everything else, and now maybe the bend goes the other way, something like that? | ||
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Well, yeah, there was government control way back there to the 30s. | |
| As soon as we could talk on the movies, they started, you know, regulating the political content, I think. | ||
| of it and sometimes it was kind of bent one way or the other and that's gone back and forth. | ||
| You know, during the late 40s and 50s, you know, you had the McCarthy hearings and, you know, the | ||
| red scares, which actually, it turns out, the Soviets were surreptitiously trying to take over | ||
| our unions. | ||
| Ronald Reagan was president of the Green Actors Guild back then. | ||
| He actually fought against communism. | ||
| It seems to have been, I think, a little bit more towards liberal in the past couple of decades. | ||
| But you used to have people like John Wayne, Charlton Heston, actors side by side, working with each other, having different points of view, being able to state those points of view in a dialogue or a debate, if you will. | ||
| And that has disappeared in the last couple of years. | ||
| I do believe it's coming back. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So, you know, I don't know a ton about your politics, but, you know, we played a clip of you a couple of weeks ago on Piers Morgan, where he was kind of pushing and pulling, trying to get a little more out of you politically. | ||
| And you basically said, Trump is my guy. | ||
| Do you feel that that's still tough to do in that town, to be able to say that and feel like you're going to still get work and all that? | ||
| Like I said, I think things have started to change. | ||
| They needed to change. | ||
| Like a few years ago, you get canceled just for stating your political views. | ||
| Back when we were doing Reagan, it was attempted to cancel me a couple of times, you know, based on untruths. | ||
| Politically, I'm an independent. | ||
| I always have been. | ||
| I voted both ways over, what is it, five decades now. | ||
| And I've really kind of been that way and pretty private about my, my politics, but, uh, I felt that, uh, this, uh, election is one where everybody really needed to take a side and being vocal. | ||
| We usually, I don't like to hear actors talk about who they're for and all that stuff because, you know, what do we do for a living? | ||
| You know, and I don't know. | ||
| But I just didn't like it that our judicial system was being misused for political purposes. | ||
| And I thought it was an assault on our Constitution. | ||
| And just as a citizen, I need to speak out. | ||
| Do you find it kind of funny that so many actors feel that they should speak up? | ||
| Because I can tell you now, it seems that everyone is so overexposed that when I watch movies, I'm less inclined to enjoy movies that I know everything about the actor. | ||
| I find it refreshing when I turn on a movie and I have no idea who they are. | ||
| It feels more authentic to me rather than I'm just picking somebody. | ||
| Oh, that's Tom Hanks pretending to do that thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, I totally agree with you on that, but those days are gone. | ||
| It used to be that, let's go back to the 70s, 80s, I mean, Jack Nicholson, Robert Redford, Uh, you, you know, as far as advertising their films, they would do like maybe one interview in a magazine and they wouldn't even do talk shows. | ||
| You barely knew anything about them. | ||
| And that's really what makes movie stars because as an audience member, you can, you could watch that film and you could imprint, uh, onto that Onto that actor, your own feelings. | ||
| I've been with that, you know, that's, that's, and, uh, that's not possible. | ||
| Social media completely ruined that, I think, or ruined it. | ||
| Well, it changed it. | ||
| And there's no, there was no going, you know, now, now as an actress, especially starting now, starting out, if you're not on Instagram and I'm out there, you know, having everybody know everything about you, you're not going to get anywhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You had to go to actual auditions in your day and wait on long lines and all of that stuff. | ||
| Well, yeah, for a time. | ||
| I've been, I've been very grateful for the career that I've had. | ||
| Uh, you know, but, uh, there's no changing and going back to what it was, you know, there's no mystery anymore, I think. | ||
| And that's what's missing. | ||
| That's why I think there's, uh, really a time where there are no movie stars anymore. | ||
| New ones coming up or fewer and far between. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the guy that you're doing this movie about, which comes out on August 30th, just in a couple of days from when we're airing this, uh, he was, uh, from that Hollywood and got into some political problems and all that. | ||
| Was that sort of the Genesis of your interest in him? | ||
| Was it more of the political part of him? | ||
| Was it more the acting part where were you always interested in Ronald Reagan or was this just a project that was brought to you? | ||
| I grew up with Ronald Reagan. | ||
| Basically, you know, my father was a huge fan. | ||
| I remember being in the car in 64 on our way to Galveston when he gave the speech, which we heard on the radio and my father was banging on the dashboard, you know, to get him Ronnie and stuff. | ||
| And that was, you know, what he Switched parties in 64 and we're not in campaign for Goldwater in the meantime. | ||
| That was my first real awareness of him. | ||
| Before that, I had an awareness of him as the guy who said Boaxo Soap on TV on Death Valley days and that, and also as an actor. | ||
| I, when he, I, he was all, I voted for Ronald Reagan, uh, when I was, I think I was, uh, 20 something at the time and, uh, came home and my roommate who was, uh, you know, really, you know, from the hippie generation said, who'd you vote for? | ||
| I said, Ronald Reagan. | ||
| And he said, you were kicked out of the hippies. | ||
| That was the end of that. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| You were gone from the hippie community. | ||
| So they bring this role to you, or did you hunt this down? | ||
| Yeah, it was brought to me. | ||
| I was just out of the blue. | ||
| Noah Hamilton, who is the brother of Bethany Hamilton, the surfer, who was portrayed in Soul Surfer, the movie that I did. | ||
| You know, she lost an arm to a shark. | ||
| No, I called him the other day and said, hey, we've got these people that are doing a movie on Reagan and they want you to do it. | ||
| Do you have a meeting with them? | ||
| So I said, sure. | ||
| And then they weren't going through my agents because I don't think it was the most good thing, you know, uh, Reagan still, uh, in this town to, uh, to do. | ||
| Uh, and, uh, so I met with them and, uh, they offered me parts and it was Mark Joseph, who's the producer. | ||
| And I didn't say yes, but I didn't say no because, uh, One thing, it's quite daunting to him. | ||
| He was my favorite president. | ||
| He loomed large in my life. | ||
| And everyone in the world, I think, knows, like, Muhammad Ali, what he looks like, sounds like, and has an opinion of who he should be. | ||
| And there was fear involved in that. | ||
| But I took my time to think about it. | ||
| Going up to the Reagan Ranch, which was the Western White House, where you could really feel him, that's what got me to say yes. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty beautiful up there in Simi Valley, and that whole library, the whole facility is wonderful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Reagan Ranch, though, is not open to the public. | ||
| It was the Western White House, and a group of friends bought it after his passing, and they kept it exactly as Ron and Nancy left it and their clothes are still in the closet. | ||
| In fact, you expect him to come back in 30 minutes or four. | ||
| His library with every book that he had read since he was nine years old is still intact and what hit me when I went up there and what made me say yes was because I could feel Ronald Reagan. | ||
| I realized when coming in the front gate after going up five miles of the worst road in California that Reagan was not a rich man. | ||
| And Reagan was also a very humble man. | ||
| Uh, he and Nancy, they had a king sized bed, but it was two single beds that were zip tied together. | ||
| And, uh, you know, they had a little basket there with a note from Nancy, how to operate the television with the three remotes, you know, like go kaboom kaboom. | ||
| And it's very, very simple. | ||
| Um, Uh, the house is not even 1100 square feet. | ||
| Um, this is where the queen came, uh, to visit queen of England and came to visit and very, very humble, really unassuming man in a, in a way. | ||
| You sort of hit on this already, but how do you feel about doing a role where you have to recreate someone like Ronald Reagan versus just a role where you're creating the character from scratch? | ||
| You know, on my show, I would say probably twice a month, we end the show with a clip of Reagan, | ||
| just from one of his famous speeches. | ||
| And it's not just the content of what he's saying that obviously often was written by somebody else, | ||
| but it's the way he said everything, his sense of humor, the pauses. | ||
| He had absolute mastery of public speaking, time and time again. | ||
| I mean, that's not an easy thing to recreate. | ||
| Yeah, and that's the way we see it. | ||
| He had absolute mastery. | ||
| What was going on in his head at the time might be a very different story. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| You know, I've played several real people, you know, from Doc Holliday and, you know, those that are not with us anymore, too, like Jimmy Morris in The Rookie, who was on the set with me. | ||
| You know, while we're, uh, while I was doing the role, uh, the entire time to Jerry Lee Lewis. | ||
| And I always try to, when it comes to real people and the difference between that and a made up characters that I feel a responsibility to tell their story from their point of view, because if someone was doing my story, that's what I would want at least. | ||
| And, um, it's finding a way in. | ||
| To know them privately, not just public persona, you know, just to do kind of wouldn't want to do an impression or impersonation of the way he walked and talked. | ||
| There was a reason why. | ||
| Inside why they walk the way they do, why they talk the way they do. | ||
| It worries that private place with him and Reagan. | ||
| I was in my research. | ||
| I come to find out that everyone, uh, to a person said that there was a private place in Reagan that, in a way, made him kind of unknowable, in a sense, that I think even Nancy may have experienced to a degree, even though she knew him better than anybody. | ||
| And a very private place. | ||
| And I think In studying him, I think that was his relationship with God in the end, that private place. | ||
| And I think that affected every decision he made and every move that he made in life. | ||
| How do you actually do that research? | ||
| Is that talking to friends or family that may still be around, reading books? | ||
| Is that just spending time in the home? | ||
| Is it all of those things? | ||
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All of that. | |
| Yeah, I read about five biographies, you know, and then there's so much on On YouTube, which is really fantastic for, uh, you know, for visually and, uh, historically, uh, for him and, you know, I lived through it, uh, those times myself and talk to quite a number of people who had personal relationships. | ||
| One of the best was, um, when I went to the Reagan ranch was his, uh, personal secret service, uh, detailed John, who was, uh, It really kind of acting as a caretaker, uh, there at the ranch, the one he, he read with him. | ||
| Uh, they picked him because he could ride horses and he read with Reagan, uh, on a daily basis and was, you know, it was with him in the, you know, from the white house to the end of his life. | ||
| And do you, obviously the movie's not out yet. | ||
| So I've only seen the trailer. | ||
| Is this, are you going through the, the entirety of his life? | ||
| Is this focusing on one kind of, was there one, was there one section that was most interesting to you? | ||
| I'd tell you him from about the age of 35 when he was, you know, his first years in, in Hollywood, all the way till his letter to the American people when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and you know, right. | ||
| As an actor, you mentioned this earlier, you're always going to be you. | ||
| You can't get away from yourself. | ||
| Even with all the mystery, if I'm watching Robert Redford in a movie, I'm watching Robert Redford do this person. | ||
| I'm never unaware that this is Robert Redford. | ||
| And that's what makes it unique, the interpretation of that. | ||
| Get under things that we had in common, you know, and I try to link that. | ||
| That's something I can understand as a human being. | ||
| And then we all as human beings can understand, you know, is by portraying their humanity. | ||
| And, uh, Ronald Reagan and I were both actors. | ||
| And we both have kind of sunny dispositions. | ||
| Uh, the way we, uh, optimistic in the way that we see things with him, you know, I, I try to get it into their, into insecurities they may have had as well, which also makes them human, you know, not just, they don't see themselves as heroes all the time. | ||
| I think Ronald Reagan, uh, one thing I can kind of relate to as well, I don't think Ronald Reagan I actually felt like he was a success as an actor because I don't think he. | ||
| He got to that place that he wanted to be as an actor. | ||
| You know, John Wayne took that slot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Ronald Reagan, you know, he was in B-movies. | ||
| And, you know, part of that didn't have to do with his talent. | ||
| It had to do with, you know, Jack Warner or whatever in the studio for one reason or another. | ||
| Just, you know, it didn't happen. | ||
| And he married Jim Wyman, who was, you know, his career was going down. | ||
| kind of fading and she won an academy award and what's that like to you know be in a relationship | ||
| where you're being transcended in in what you do which I'm sure made a lot to him but then then | ||
| then again I've been there that's why he got he became the president of the Screen Actors Guild. | ||
| First of all, I suppose, then the president of the Screen Actors Guild. | ||
| Let's tell you the truth. | ||
| It's not a job that everybody honors for. | ||
| You know, actor, that's something you do when your career starts to fade. | ||
| And, uh, and you know, that's where I think God had a purpose for him and that's where he was leading him. | ||
| Did you see many metaphors in sort of the politics of today and Reagan's own political evolution? | ||
| I mean, he was famous for the, you know, I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me. | ||
| I think we're seeing an awful lot of that sort of sentiment these days. | ||
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Right, yes. | |
| it's so similar to 1978, 79, 1980 in the election, you know, we were, America was in decline, | ||
| you know, we had trouble with Iran and the Middle East, you know, the... | ||
| It was the Soviet Union and Ukraine is going on today. | ||
| The economy, the interest rates were 20% to buy a house. | ||
| I know I got a load of 20%. | ||
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Oh man, are you out from under that one yet? | |
| I got out. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| I got out for about an hour. | ||
| But it's very similar. | ||
| And also, but more than that, there was, Carter even gave a speech about the malaise that was in this country. | ||
| And very similar circumstances. | ||
| And that's what, which I think would be an interesting kind of note and a reflection for people seeing the movie today. | ||
| As well. | ||
| But the thing about Ronald Reagan as a president was he governed by principles, not by the issues of the day. | ||
| There were certain principles that were set, and I'd like to see a return to that, actually, because if you govern by principles, it doesn't matter if you're Democrat, Republican, in the long term. | ||
| It represents our nation and not just the whim of the pop culture. | ||
| It's so interesting you say that because that is what I've been saying I think the opportunity is for Trump assuming he gets the second term here. | ||
| It's like he has now created this wide swath of people from rappers and UFC guys to traditional conservatives and everything in between that if you govern by principles and you have all those people that that's almost all of us actually. | ||
| It's a little hard to see sometimes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In terms, it puts it in terms that everybody aspires to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, uh, I think they've definitely seen a 2.0 album with him. | ||
| People forget that, uh, you know, back in the, uh, back in the eighties and the nineties, uh, Trump played mentor to a lot of upcoming really rich rap artists. | ||
| And, and, uh, People coming up that he could mentor to, and he's always been able to walk in every strata of society and communicate with people. | ||
| And Reagan definitely had that. | ||
| I don't like to, in a way, compare Reagan with Trump, because they are both Different styles and different ways, and I don't want to take away from either of them. | ||
| But times are very similar to what they were then. | ||
| So my audience knows that I go off the grid every August. | ||
| No phone, no TV, no nothing. | ||
| So they know that we're taping this in July and we're going to air this just a couple days before the movie comes out. | ||
| But obviously right now, as we're speaking live, we're just a couple days past this assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life. | ||
| Dennis, believe it or not, I think my first memory as a child of any real event beyond just being in my house | ||
| playing with toys or something was Reagan's assassination attempt. | ||
| I think it was 1980 and I remember sitting on the couch, I was probably four years old, | ||
| watching that with my parents and I very vividly can remember a sort of cartoon body that they showed on TV | ||
| with a bullet going in and everybody explaining and my parents freaking out and my mom crying and all that. | ||
| That must have, obviously you filmed this before what happened to Trump, | ||
| but in light of recent events, I'm sure that's been kind of bouncing around in your head. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| I mean it. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| you. | ||
| Everybody, I mean, I remember the day Kennedy was shot, you know, in detail. | ||
| It's, it's how vivid those memories are. | ||
| And for all of us as Americans, uh, we'll, we'll never forget, uh, what happened Saturday. | ||
| It's, uh, it's a searing experience and how close we came to that same tragedy that, you know, uh, when Kennedy, When John Kennedy was shot in 63, and then Martin Luther King, and then Bobby Kennedy, and this is all within five years, I think it paralyzed us. | ||
| I think For at least 15, 20 years as a nation, it went a long way toward deteriorating our confidence as a nation. | ||
| You know, we had Watergate that was thrown in there. | ||
| And people had a mistrust of government, you know, and there was government conspiracy going on and stuff. | ||
| Once again, the very kind of the same issues that were present then as they are now. | ||
| We got to not have to experience that kind of tragedy. | ||
| And I really believe that was God's hand. | ||
| It had to be. | ||
| Is it in the movie, the famous moment, I think it was his first speech back from the assassination attempt, when there was the loud bang in the back of the room, and what was his great line? | ||
| I know. | ||
| You missed me. | ||
| You missed me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You missed me. | |
| I mean, even that. | ||
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And he said it so grily, he just kept going over this speech. | |
| Is that in the movie? | ||
| And the whole room cracked up. | ||
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Because everybody, I think he probably saw you, I don't see it there, but I think everybody | |
| in the room ducked. | ||
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But him, he didn't even flinch. | |
| He said, you missed me that time. | ||
| How long did you have to work on the voice for that and what you have to do with your throat and all that stuff? | ||
| That took quite a while. | ||
| I was lucky. | ||
| I had at least a year and a half, as it turned out, to prepare for the role. | ||
| There's lots of stuff, like I said, on YouTube. | ||
| So in private, I would, uh, just started doing The Voice and then I just kind of lived with it. | ||
| I would just kind of do it all day. | ||
| Not to, you know, just to myself and then to, you know, kind of, uh, my family. | ||
| And then, you know, before I take it out there, because I didn't want it to be an impersonation. | ||
| And also, Uh, you know, the younger Reagan is, his voice is kind of blue up here. | ||
| You know, that's because we all, our voice changes throughout our lives. | ||
| So, getting all that right. | ||
| And the other thing was Reagan's crooked smile, which was a little small detail. | ||
| But I think had a lot to do with his personality and what was going on on the inside. | ||
| He had a crooked smile that, you know, I think it had to do with him a fight or some injury or something in his life that damaged the nerves not to be able to to bring up both sides of the mouth. | ||
| So this will probably be the hardest question. | ||
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No. | |
| Obviously, this is not a hardball interview, but was there anything that you learned about him | ||
| that you didn't want to bring to light? | ||
| And I guess even asking you that in an interview is probably a ridiculous question to some extent, | ||
| but when you were doing your research, was there something that you didn't want to show | ||
| a certain way or something, or that you were happy, maybe didn't make it into the script, something like that? | ||
| No, no, in fact, you know, I didn't, I didn't want it to be a love letter. | ||
| I did want it to be his life. | ||
| I didn't want to be from his point of view. | ||
| But, you know, he always was accountable. | ||
| To himself and to the American people as well, for what he did was take Iran-Contra, for instance, which is a very uncomfortable time, you know, in the Reagan years. | ||
| He was a delegator, delegated a lot of things to get it done. | ||
| And, you know, I believe him and it was coming to the American people and telling them what happened. | ||
| And from his mind and his heart, that I think saved him from being impeached. | ||
| He was in danger of that. | ||
| Also, I don't think he responded to AIDS as well as he could have. | ||
| I think that was putting a lot down, I think. | ||
| He did come to, it was kind of a, that was a process, I think, for him, but his initial response | ||
| was, I don't think, was something to be proud of. | ||
| And... | ||
| I think Nancy helped him a lot with that along the way. | ||
| He did start the Longcadmin Republicans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, he was, he was a lot more inclusive than I think people gave him credit for. | ||
| And he, but I just wanted to play him as a human being and not be political, like a political | ||
| love letter at the same time. | ||
| Because that's not very interesting anyway. | ||
| And it's not the truth. | ||
| One more for you. | ||
| What do you think he would be saying to us? | ||
| Because part of the reason that I do play those clips often to end the show of him is because even though some of them are 30, 40, 50 years ago, they capture something that we seem to have forgotten. | ||
| And it's something that I think we're both in agreement we need to kind of reignite in this country. | ||
| Maybe there's an opportunity with Trump right now, but what do you think he would make of just sort of the way things seem to be in this strange moment? | ||
| You know, he and Tip O'Neill, who's the Speaker of the House, you know, staunch Democrat, and Reagan, were bitter political enemies from 9 to 5. | ||
| But they said at the beginning, they both made an agreement that, you know, from 9 to 5, we're going to slug it out, you know, as far as what our vision of America is. | ||
| But after 5 o'clock, we're just a couple Irishmen having a beer. | ||
| And they really got to know each other as people. | ||
| And that's where... | ||
| That's where political change happens. | ||
| That's where spiritual change happens. | ||
| That's where we come together, united, and we speak as one voice. | ||
| That's what the Founding Fathers really intended. | ||
| It was about compromise. | ||
| Compromise was one of the first words that they talked about when it came to the Declaration of Independence in the Constitution. | ||
| Everybody had to compromise. | ||
| But it was together that we did it. | ||
| And, um, Reagan had a very special thing that he would say, you know, that one of his staff made note of, of Tip O'Neill, that, you know, he was like kind of the enemy. | ||
| And he said, well, he, uh, he might be, uh, he's an eight, he's an might be a 20% enemy, but he's an 80% friend. | ||
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| And you shouldn't let, throw the baby out with the bath water when it comes to that. | ||
| We could probably all use a little bit more of that. | ||
| Well, I just remember we're at least like 70% friends. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I like that you lowered the percentage. | ||
| Things are hot these days. | ||
| Well, Reagan is out on August 30th. | ||
| I can't wait to see it. | ||
| By the way, about 15 minutes ago, it just popped into my head that I listed out all your great movies, and I didn't say Frequency, which is also one of my favorite movies of all time. | ||
| Love that movie. | ||
| I really love that movie. | ||
| I would do that and I'd beat anything to get all that private trailer time with Marty Short. | ||
| We just laughed our butts off the entire thing. | ||
| I guess the last thing I'll ask is any chance for Interspace 2? | ||
| I mean, it's so obvious it could be spun off into a sequel or a TV show. | ||
| Give me something here. Come on. | ||
| I would do that and I'd be anything to get all that private trailer time with Marty Short. | ||
| We just laughed our butts off the entire thing. | ||
| He is so hysterical and such a talented guy and so much fun with him. | ||
| Dennis, I thank you for your time. | ||
| I wish you good luck with the movie. | ||
| Thank you, Dave. | ||
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