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Alright, we're still at the National Conservatism Conference. | ||
I'm still Dave Rubin, and I'm with a man who needs no introduction. | ||
That's what people keep saying about me all conference long, which I don't know what that means. | ||
Is it like they don't really know what to say about you? | ||
They don't like you? | ||
A man I've never Googled. | ||
Dave Rubin. | ||
Welcome. | ||
I'm with friend and colleague Michael Knowles. | ||
First off, Knowles, you lost a little weight. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Yes. | ||
Thank you. | ||
How did you do it? | ||
I had put on the Nashville 20, and then, as one does, you know, with the biscuits and the gravy and the chicken. | ||
Yeah, and the fried bologna, which I did not even know was a thing until I visited you people. | ||
And the fried bologna. | ||
No, I mean, there was a lot. | ||
And so, I was very quickly becoming like a big, fat... | ||
Suburban guy. | ||
And so I said, okay, you know, I'm gonna put some limits on it. | ||
And actually this relates to the topic that I'm speaking about here and that a lot of people are speaking about at the National Conservatism Conference. | ||
Limits. | ||
You know, you got, you need some limits. | ||
Even those of us who like the fried bologna, who are kind of done, I'm married, what do I care? | ||
I don't care. | ||
It's not like I'm going to the club. | ||
But still, just to be in good, virtuous shape. | ||
You gotta keep things a little tight. | ||
I mean, somewhat joking aside, but not fully joking aside, I have noticed, since I've been in more of these crazy right-wing radical conservative circles that I now travel in, people do look better. | ||
They seem better. | ||
They seem happier. | ||
But I don't mean it looks like as if looks are so important, but I mean it has something to do with responsibility. | ||
Yes. | ||
We're not saying that, you know... Well, it might be the case. | ||
The conservatives are just born better looking. | ||
It's possible. | ||
But putting that aside for a second, there are these really sad videos, you can see them on YouTube or TikTok or whatever, of like a pretty girl who's like a pretty normal girl. | ||
and raised in a normal kind of household. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And then she tries leftism. | ||
And she just takes a few puffs of leftism at first, but then she's mainlining leftism. | ||
And what happens? | ||
She gets the crazy haircut and all the tattoos and the face tats and the crazy clothing. | ||
And it doesn't look good because you... | ||
One thing that conservatives are good at, and it kind of hampers us politically, but | ||
it's probably good for our personal lives, is we're actually good at moderation. | ||
We're good at not going too far in one direction or the other. | ||
We kind of like things the way they are. | ||
We want to keep things... We're not the most excitable people. | ||
We're not the most excitable people. | ||
And so it means that the left is a lot better at aggression than actual political tactics, but for us it means we look better. | ||
Do you think, and I actually think we're going to hold this for probably a day or so, so I'm really going to get you on the hook right now. | ||
Do you think that Virginia is going to go well and thus save the republic? | ||
So I try not to make predictions on these things. | ||
That's why I'm asking you and then holding it. | ||
But I'll say right now speaking on Tuesday afternoon. | ||
If I had to put odds, I'd say 60-40 McAuliffe. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
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I would. | |
Really? | ||
Look, I think the Yunkin campaign is the greatest Republican campaign I've seen in Virginia in my lifetime. | ||
I think that this issue that they focused on, the education, the anti-CRT, is the greatest grassroots movement since the Tea Party. | ||
I think it's more grassroots, actually, than the Tea Party. | ||
I've been calling it the CRT party. | ||
That's pretty good, huh? | ||
That's a Knowles? | ||
That's a Michael Knowles original? | ||
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That's good, that's good. | |
You can take that to the bank. | ||
Even more than, don't tax me as much. | ||
Even more than, stop spending all this money. | ||
Don't teach my kid radical racial and sexual ideologies. | ||
That is something that really resonates with a whole lot of people across a whole lot of demographics. | ||
And so all of that is the caveat. | ||
I think if any Republican is going to win in Virginia, it's going to be Glenn Youngkin right now. | ||
However, the Democrats have a massive registration advantage and they've rigged the system. | ||
I mean, I don't want us to get kicked off YouTube or whatever. | ||
I'm on Locals and Rumble now. | ||
You are free to say whatever you want. | ||
They rigged the system in the sense that they have changed the election integrity laws throughout | ||
the country to be more advantageous to them. | ||
When it's just election day, Republicans do better. | ||
When it's election month or two months and widespread mail-ins and voter harvesting and | ||
all these sorts of things, Democrats do better. | ||
And so they've used COVID as the excuse to change all of those rules. | ||
And they don't get more corrupt than McAuliffe. | ||
I mean, he is a Clinton machine politician. | ||
So I wouldn't be surprised if he holds on. | ||
But I will say this. | ||
If Yuncken won, I'm now speaking from the future on Wednesday or Thursday. | ||
Really taxing your back to the future. | ||
It is very tricky. | ||
But if Yuncken manages to pull it off, I think it will do a great deal to restore confidence | ||
in the entire regime. | ||
Regime. | ||
And the entire election system. | ||
Because right now, a lot of Republicans think, we can't win. | ||
The regime is exercising all of its power. | ||
We are permanently disadvantaged. | ||
We shouldn't even go vote. | ||
And if, if Youngkin can pull it off, I think it's going to give Republicans a big help in 22 and 24. | ||
Can I give you the reverse of that, which is that if he does not win, sorry, if he does win, that the Democrats then will say the system is now all rigged, which they're saying anyway, despite wins. | ||
They're still saying, because they just have it there, right? | ||
So like Stacey Abrams is always out there saying the election was stolen from her. | ||
Terry McAuliffe said it. | ||
In the year of Our Lord 2021, he said Stacey Abrams won the election. | ||
Is that an untenable thing for a democracy, that we really are going to end up in a situation, and partly for good reason? | ||
I mean, look, you fled California after you told me you were going to stay, but we've already been through that. | ||
I said, right after I gave you a final kiss, I said, goodnight, Dave. | ||
I'll see you in the morning. | ||
Kiss on the cheek, and then I betrayed you. | ||
Yeah, it was really, it was quite, you do come from a line of people in Sicily that have a way of... | ||
But in California, I mean, I've used this example a million times, during the recall election, the envelope that you got, no matter which way you folded your ballot, you could either see that you voted yes on recall or Larry Elder's name, no matter which way you folded it. | ||
And all you had to do was hold the envelope up to basically like this. | ||
That's a problem. | ||
Yeah, no, it's a coincidence. | ||
It's still a coincidence. | ||
It's still a coincidence. | ||
No, and so this is a problem for the system of government that neither party We'll accept the results of the elections. | ||
And don't forget, Democrats started it. | ||
Terry McAuliffe, running for Virginia right now, still refuses to acknowledge that George W. Bush won the 2000 election. | ||
And he was not the only one. | ||
And he was not the only one. | ||
And people have been doing this. | ||
Hillary still has not really conceded the 2016 election. | ||
Stacey Abrams, obviously, is still the pretend governor of Georgia. | ||
But it's not just the same, by the way. | ||
It's not just that Republicans lose and they don't believe it, and Democrats lose and they don't believe it. | ||
The Democrats have all the power. | ||
They have all the power. | ||
They control the government, the media, the schools, the tech, the woke corporations, which is to say all the corporations. | ||
They control everything, okay? | ||
And so... | ||
For Republicans to look at that and say, hey, you guys are changing the election rules and you're suppressing stories about Hunter Biden on Twitter or whatever. | ||
You know, I think we have a legitimate claim for the ruling class to say that we, the people without any institutional power in this country, including in the military anymore, that we're the ones rigging the elections. | ||
That's completely insane. | ||
You've got to admire them. | ||
They're the ruling class and the resistance. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
It's quite amazing. | ||
Let me ask you this. | ||
You're a relatively new father. | ||
Yes. | ||
Simon is how old now? | ||
Simon is nine and a half months. | ||
Nine and a half months. | ||
Almost to the day. | ||
Since you mentioned that this Virginia thing, it has so much to do with the parents waking up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Has this changed any of your perspective on any of this? | ||
I've been thinking about it a lot, like we're working on having kids. | ||
If I had a four year old right now, let's say. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And they were saying five-year-olds are about to get the injection. | ||
I would be looking at that calendar and looking at the birthday and also looking at the tickets out of town. | ||
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Of course. | |
For sure. | ||
Naturally. | ||
And it wouldn't just be you and me and all the other crazy right-wing conspiracists. | ||
It would be Dr. Harvey Risch at Yale, a Yale epidemiologist, who just came out and said, if your child is in a school with a vaccine mandate, you should homeschool. | ||
That's what I, you know, assuming your kid is healthy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You should homeschool. | ||
And so, yeah. | ||
I will say I intellectually understood all of these things before the little baby came out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But it's a very different thing now. | ||
You know, it reminds me, C.S. | ||
Lewis wrote this book about pain and suffering called The Problem of Pain. | ||
It's a very good book. | ||
And then he wrote another book called A Grief Observed, when his wife died. | ||
So it's kind of the same book, except they're totally different books. | ||
When it is real to you, when you have a real stake in it, it's the difference between, oh well, we should really change that policy, to I'm going to go rip somebody's heart out of his chest if he tries to screw with my kid. | ||
Are you shocked the way the Democrats have done this? | ||
You don't have a right? | ||
To have anything to do with your children's education. | ||
We're going to teach them all this stuff. | ||
We're going to inject them. | ||
It's like, you've got to kind of thank them in a way. | ||
They're going so overboard on this that they are sort of doing our job at this point, right? | ||
They are, but they are only following their idea to the logical conclusion, right? | ||
They're only, they're taking their idea, and frankly, it's the idea of public education to begin with. | ||
This doesn't just go back 20, 30 years. | ||
It doesn't just go back to Dewey. | ||
It goes back to Horace Greeley or I mean it goes back to if people even further further than the idea that | ||
It goes back to the revolutionary era, the idea that public education is supposed to form you, not just teach you the 2 plus 2 equals 4 and how to read and write, but also civic virtues, also morality and ethics, also to form a free citizen. | ||
And what the left has done, since they've totally gotten their claws into education, is they are creating the type of citizens that they want. | ||
Not the citizens who salute the flag and admire Thomas Jefferson, but the citizens who burn the flag and topple the statues. | ||
Make TikTok videos. | ||
Don't forget about the pink haired TikTok videos. | ||
Pretty creepy TikTok videos. | ||
No, I gotta let you go because you guys are freaking out. | ||
Apparently you have to talk in front of a couple hundred people in there. | ||
Do you have any ideas? | ||
What should I say? | ||
Talk about me, how I've sort of influenced you and helped moderate your crazy opinions and all that stuff. | ||
Michael Knowles. | ||
Thank you. | ||
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