Jan. 8, 2019 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| All right, Landels and Jelly Spoons, we are live on www.youtube.com/reubenreport. | ||
| slash Rubin report. | ||
| All right, there's a lot to do here, and we've only got an hour today because I've had a completely bananas day. | ||
| I feel like my days are getting more and more, I'd like to say bonkers, but I'm going with bananas. | ||
| I say bananas sometimes too. | ||
| My days are getting crazier and crazier these days. | ||
| I've already taped three shows today, and I was up at the crack of dawn. | ||
| I did a 45-minute radio interview. | ||
| I had about two-minute breaks in between everything. | ||
| And here we are. | ||
| We're going live. | ||
| The second I'm done here, there's already a car waiting for me outside. | ||
| I'm heading over to do Tucker Carlson tonight. | ||
| And then, excuse me, then I hear that that Trump fellow has given a big speech. | ||
| I guess I'll have to tweet that thing. | ||
| So it's going to be one of those days. | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| What I wanted to do is, as you guys know, I am departing Patreon. | ||
| Sam Harris has already left Patreon. | ||
| Jordan Peterson will be joining me on January 15th. | ||
| We will be deleting our Patreon accounts. | ||
| This is all because of their treatment of Carl Benjamin, Sargon of Akkad. | ||
| I'm sure most of you are well aware of that whole situation, so I don't want to repeat the whole thing. | ||
| Suffice to say that every now and again in life, I think you have to just take a stand when it's not easy to do so, and maybe not popular to do so, and maybe puts yourself at some risk. | ||
| And I just think this is the right one for us to take. | ||
| Patreon has been amazing to us. | ||
| We've been on there for about two and a half years. | ||
| You guys know all the stuff about YouTube demonetization and how hard it is to make a living as a YouTube creator. | ||
| Patreon's been awesome for us. | ||
| I built a business, I bought a house, I hired employees. | ||
| Everything that we've done basically in the last two and a half years has been because of Patreon, but we are deleting it. | ||
| It's time to stand up. | ||
| Jordan and I are working on a platform that I think can be a solution to this. | ||
| There are many layers of problems that we're gonna have to deal with, but we're thinking them all through about payments and crypto and the terms of service and the whole thing. | ||
| You've heard me talk about all of that before. | ||
| So what we're doing today, I'm only gonna do two more One today and one on the 15th, on January 15th. | ||
| Two more live streams, doing a little fundraising because we're getting everybody off Patreon and we're trying to get people over to DaveRubin.com slash donate. | ||
| That removes some of the middleman. | ||
| We can control everything. | ||
| It doesn't solve all of the technological or monetization problems yet, but get everybody over to our website and off of Patreon and stand up to the man, so to speak. | ||
| So we're doing a little fundraising. | ||
| So here's the deal. | ||
| Anyone that donates at DaveRubin.com slash donate for the next hour while I am live, anyone who donates $5 or above, however you do it over there, I'm going to give you a live shout out. | ||
| So I've got an iPad here and my guys will be typing out names. | ||
| You will get a live shout out if you do $5 or above. | ||
| If you do, Twenty-five dollars or above, you're gonna get the Rubin Report t-shirt. | ||
| Now this Select member t-shirt, this was the t-shirt that we were given to our patrons who were at the high level, that were at the t-shirt level, so we've got about a hundred of these left. | ||
| They will never be printed again because we're not on Patreon anymore, so Select no longer exists. | ||
| So these are the last ones. | ||
| They are a limited edition collector's item, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I'm wearing one of them right now. | ||
| Maybe I'll have to give away the one right on my back. | ||
| We shall see. | ||
| So that's $25 or above monthly, and you're going to get a t-shirt. | ||
| If you go to $50 or above during this live stream for the next hour, I'm going to take the official Rubin Report mug, and what am I going to do to it? | ||
| I'm going to sign it. | ||
| I'm going to show you how I'm going to sign it right here. | ||
| I'm going to sign it for you. | ||
| And you can get that mug. | ||
| So whoever does the first $50 mug, the first $50 person monthly that signs up at DaveRubin.com slash donate, you can get this mug that I just signed right now. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Okay, putting that down. | ||
| So we've got t-shirts, we've got mugs, and basically you guys are funding our ability to keep this thing totally independent. | ||
| We have had, as I've said, we have had offers from networks, there's all sorts of advertisers that want to jump on board, all sorts of stuff. | ||
| So none of this is Crimea River, and I'm not sitting here, woe is me, or anything. | ||
| Like, there is plenty of opportunity. | ||
| I love doing what we've done, the way we've done it. | ||
| Remained independent. | ||
| I am beholden only to you guys, and there's a certain beauty in that, because I genuinely have, I can't say I have no idea, I have almost no idea what most of you think about anything. | ||
| So it's like, I couldn't really sell out one way or another or any other way, because I get emails, people that are conservatives, I get liberal emails, I get some angry emails from progressives, I get a lot of emails from libertarians. | ||
| I mean, all this, but I don't even know exactly what my, Patrons in the past and people who are currently supporting us think so. | ||
| I can just do what I think is right, which is what I've tried to consistently do, and just what I'll consistently try to do. | ||
| So okay, if you go to DaveRubin.com slash donate, five dollars and above, I'm gonna give you a shout out. | ||
| 25 bucks and above monthly, you're getting the Rubin Report t-shirt. | ||
| And $50 or above monthly, you're getting a signed mug right now, and you're getting the t-shirt. | ||
| And I'll just keep talking to you guys. | ||
| Oh, by the way, Tomorrow I will be at the Ontario Improv, not Ontario, Canada. | ||
| I'm sorry to those of you in Canada. | ||
| A lot of people were very confused last time. | ||
| It's Ontario, California, which is, I think it's about an hour away, Southern California. | ||
| I will be there tomorrow night doing stand-up. | ||
| I do about an hour set, and then I will be bringing Brett Weinstein, a professor in exile, Brett Weinstein. | ||
| Formerly of Evergreen State, you guys I'm sure all know his story. | ||
| He'll join me for a sit-down afterwards and it's just like a fun night. | ||
| It's not normal stand-up like you've ever seen before. | ||
| I mess around with the crowd a lot. | ||
| We got people screaming. | ||
| I give away stuff. | ||
| We do a live Q&A. | ||
| It's like, it's like just a free-for-all. | ||
| I think you'll, I think you'll really dig it. | ||
| So check that out. | ||
| And oh, and on January 20th, 30th, I will be at the Irvine Improv in Irvine, California, Orange County, and I will have an IDW guest with me. | ||
| Not saying who that is just yet. | ||
| Okay, we've got a couple shoutouts to Jared and Andy. | ||
| Welcome aboard. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| And Garrett, you were the first one that I saw. | ||
| So Garrett is getting this mug. | ||
| Let's make sure we put this mug aside. | ||
| That was the first one I signed. | ||
| And Brad, welcome aboard. | ||
| You also are getting a mug, which I'm going to sign for you right now. | ||
| Thank you, guys. | ||
| are supporting our ability to do what we're doing. So as I said I'm only gonna | ||
| do one more of these and then I won't you know promote or whatever you're | ||
| going to call this fundraise or drive whatever it is I won't do it throughout | ||
| the year you know once a year I think we'll do it going forward like one day | ||
| where we're like all right we're trying to raise some funds to do this or that | ||
| the next one that I'll do and then it will be done for all of 2019 will be on | ||
| We're gonna do one of these, I'll do a little giveaway and some fun stuff and all that, and then I'm going to take my computer, we have to figure out how this is exactly gonna work logistically, I will turn it around and I'm going to press delete on Patreon, right in front of you guys, so you will watch me delete Patreon right then and there. | ||
| We will get rid of that thing. | ||
| It's no hard feelings to any of those guys in a weird way. | ||
| It's like, you want to run your business that way? | ||
| I'm not going to have the government jump in and tell you what to do, but I just don't want to be part of what they're doing anymore. | ||
| So we're going to do that on January 15th. | ||
| Jordan and I also should have some updates on things, hopefully somewhat soon. | ||
| Things are moving. | ||
| Trust me, things are moving. | ||
| Just takes a little time to get things done. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So let me jump into some questions. | ||
| We'll also take some questions on Super Chat. | ||
| I see a whole bunch of you guys jumping in on that. | ||
| So from Patreon, I got a question from Patreon about Patreon. | ||
| Do you have any idea how much of a financial hit Patreon itself has taken because of the exodus of you, Jordan, Sam, etc.? | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I could extrapolate if I was to look at, you know, sort of the amount of money that I know we were making per month. | ||
| I have a general sense of what Jordan was making per month. | ||
| I have a sort of sense, but less so of what Sam was making per month than let's say a couple other people. | ||
| Patreon gets, you know, like 5% of each of us per month, plus some other fees and things. | ||
| Let's say it's 10% total. | ||
| I'm actually not totally sure. | ||
| It's a nice amount of money, but considering, as far as I know, Patreon got something like $450 million in VC funding in the last couple years, it's a small amount. | ||
| So I don't think this is about, while it is hurting them in the pocket, right? | ||
| And it's like, they want to make as much money as possible. | ||
| I think us taking the stand is more important. | ||
| Look, if Patreon crumbled after this, that's not really my goal here, but like if it started a chain reaction of people inside there that suddenly were into free speech and don't like all of this deplatforming and are afraid of the way the line is moving to exclude people, I would be okay with that. | ||
| But this is more about us just doing what we think is right. | ||
| But by the way, Look, people like Brett Weinstein, who I just mentioned, people like Colin Moriarty, I mean, people that I love and admire, are staying on Patreon for now. | ||
| And maybe there's an argument to be said that if you stay and fight, that could be more effective. | ||
| But I also like the idea of, okay, some people stay, some people go, some people write articles about it, some people talk about it on social media, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| There's more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak. | ||
| So I think we're all gonna hit it from different angles and see what happens. | ||
| But I do think that there is a technological and business solution to this, | ||
| and that's where I'm gonna put a lot of my energies, although it's pretty bizarre. | ||
| I got a show to run here, which is a job unto itself. | ||
| A tour, we just got an offer last night to do live Rubin Reports for all of April, | ||
| taking me across America. | ||
| I'll be in Australia with Jordan for most of February. | ||
| I'm writing this book. | ||
| We're probably going to head back out on the road in May and June with Jordan in Europe. | ||
| So there's a lot cooking. | ||
| And now I guess I'm a tech guy as well. | ||
| So, you know, we'll see what happens. | ||
| Shoutouts to Jeffrey, to Gunnar, and to Richard. | ||
| And a mug for Jared. | ||
| You're getting a mug. | ||
| Thank you very much, guys. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| You guys are helping us do this thing. | ||
| And I hope I hope it's look if you care about these ideas, then I guess it is worth it to you. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Good luck on your endeavor of creating a new platform. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Make a blockchain based payment service. | ||
| I can help hit me up. | ||
| So I'm talking to a lot of people based on Well, just I'm getting a lot of recommendations, let me say first, about doing a lot of this through blockchain and taking more blockchain payments. | ||
| So first off, just on the blockchain front, we are taking payments right now for, we're taking Bitcoin payments at DaveRubin.com slash donate. | ||
| And we've been doing pretty nicely on there. | ||
| And you know, it goes up and it goes down. | ||
| And it's just sort of something to have. | ||
| I think there are more options. | ||
| We're looking into Litecoin, we're looking into Ethereum, we're looking into Ripple. | ||
| And a couple of the others. | ||
| We're looking into some blockchain-based video stuff. | ||
| I mean, we're just scaling through all of this, and I see when I do these videos now, apparently a gajillion people are watching these things because then people start slicing and dicing every word I said. | ||
| And Ruben said this about that, and he said this thing about that thing, and the other thing about that. | ||
| It's like, guys, we're just trying to work this thing through, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's a weird thing, because I've noticed that the amount of hate that I'm getting these days has really ramped up, and I don't really care. | ||
| It's like I mute Or I block these people, like, if you're just gonna endlessly throw hate at me, like, I don't care for you, really. | ||
| It's like if I was walking down the street and somebody was like, hey, Rubin, go fuck yourself! | ||
| It's not like I'd walk across the street and be like, oh, should we talk about that? | ||
| No, so I'm not gonna do it online either. | ||
| But it's funny, because it's like, I have so much good stuff happening, the show's going great, like, touring and all this good stuff, and yet that isn't really what is the marker of success in a weird way. | ||
| I see all these people writing about me and doing videos about me, lying about me constantly, and I'm like, oh, If I'm somebody that they're doing that stuff about, I must really be a threat to these people. | ||
| I guess I am successful. | ||
| So that's, uh, that's actually pretty good. | ||
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All right. | |
| Shout outs to Christopher, Joel, David and Nikki and Alexander. | ||
| You're getting a mug. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| You've been signed Alexander. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Good luck sticking it to the man. | ||
| I closed all Patreon support. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Are you coming to New York City anytime soon? | ||
| So we just got this offer for Live Rubin Reports, as I said, in April, basically the entire month, which would be pretty cool to be doing the show in front of, it would be theater audiences, usually about a thousand people. | ||
| One of the shows is in New York. | ||
| I haven't signed on to the deal yet. | ||
| I got it late last night and I haven't had a chance to fully dive into it, but that could potentially be in April. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Just changed my $5 to $25 monthly. | ||
| Send me a medium. | ||
| Been funding for a few years and got off the Patreon train before New Year. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| And when you submit via PayPal or your credit card, we have your email and then we can figure out the sizes. | ||
| So that's how we do that. | ||
| Greetings from Argentina! | ||
| I love what you're doing and what Jordan's doing. | ||
| My question is, have you two considered coming to South America? | ||
| So I don't know why the Jordan tour didn't make it to South America. | ||
| I'm not sure it's on the docket for what we're thinking about in May and June. | ||
| I'll ask on that. | ||
| I'm actually not sure. | ||
| Okay, shout out to Steve and to Maureen. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thoughts on Coinbase economically deplatforming Gab. | ||
| So yeah, I heard about this. | ||
| And what's weird, I guess, and again, I don't know everything about crypto, but I know that Coinbase is one of the places, I have a Coinbase account actually. | ||
| Coinbase is one of the exchanges where you can buy and sell crypto. | ||
| Apparently they booted Gab, but not only did they boot Gab, if I'm understanding this correctly, they booted the private account of the CEO of Gab. | ||
| Andrew something or other, I think his name is. | ||
| This strikes me as particularly odd, like, unless they're doing something illegal. | ||
| But this is becoming increasingly the problem. | ||
| We're gonna slowly watch all sorts of maybe, kinda, potentially shady people, and I'm not even saying that this guy is, be pinned off, and we're all gonna think, oh, if I don't say anything, I'll be okay. | ||
| If I don't say anything, I'll be okay. | ||
| But that's how it comes for everybody, because nobody stands up. | ||
| So I'm very proud to stand up with Jordan and see if we can figure this thing out. | ||
| So I'm not happy when I see any of these deplatforming issues. | ||
| I had lunch with Eric Weinstein yesterday. | ||
| One of the things that we were talking about was that maybe what the internet needs, and this is an interesting play on my small government beliefs, is that, look, I don't want the government telling these companies, telling them what they can do, right? | ||
| You all know that, okay. | ||
| But maybe what we need on the internet is a public space. | ||
| So in other words, if everything's private online right now, as it basically is, you've got all these roads going in | ||
| every which direction, everyone can be on any of these platforms, the platforms | ||
| can get rid of anybody that they want, but there's no public space. And maybe what we need is a | ||
| public space that is based, let's say it was made in the United States, | ||
| The United States creates some sort of public space online that stands by the principles of free speech and the First Amendment. | ||
| And beyond that, as long as you aren't doing anything that is illegal in the United States, you can do whatever you want. | ||
| So think about it as like just a public park. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, like, if you're at a cafe next to the park, a crazy person can't walk in and start screaming. | ||
| Like, they're allowed to kick him out, and that's what the private company could do. | ||
| If they don't want the person there, they can kick him out. | ||
| But that at least we would have a public space, a public platform for people to be able to do whatever they want. | ||
| That is based in American laws and the free speech principles that we all love. | ||
| I think there's some way that I could actually sort of be for public funding, being for something like that. | ||
| That would actually be interesting, because in a weird way, if we only have private things online, then nothing's really private. | ||
| And I think that that's what's happening right now. | ||
| So there's something there I need to think it through a little bit more. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Dave, is there one particular rule out of Jordan's book that helped you the most? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Man, well, to tell you, I've obviously heard Jordan lecture about the book 100 some odd times, and some nights, I've said this before, but some nights he does, he'll lecture for an hour and a half about all 12 rules. | ||
| He'll hit all 12. | ||
| Some nights he picks three rules and he focuses on them. | ||
| Some nights he does one rule. | ||
| Some nights he does no rules and he talks about something else that's on his mind. | ||
| You know, I think, God, is there one that's affected me more than the others? | ||
| Well, it's cliche to say the one about telling the truth, right? | ||
| Because, like, you should try to tell the truth as much as you can. | ||
| I'm always trying to tell the truth as much as I can. | ||
| So I don't think it's that. | ||
| You know, the one about petting a cat. | ||
| If you see a cat, pet a cat. | ||
| Now, I'm allergic to cats. | ||
| I don't like cats. | ||
| Don't pet cats, in my estimation. | ||
| But he said you can swap any animal for that. | ||
| I'm a dog guy. | ||
| But in effect, what he's saying there is just stop and smell the roses, right? | ||
| Just, you know, when things are going well and you're in the thick of it, like, don't get so lost that you don't remember to enjoy it. | ||
| And when things are going bad, that there's still some goodness out there, kind of. | ||
| And try to pause and remember those things. | ||
| So for me right now, my life is moving very fast. | ||
| I have very little time to To come up and breathe. | ||
| I tried to take a vacation around Christmas. | ||
| The whole Patreon thing happened, and I didn't get a vacation. | ||
| Like, I haven't had a lot of slow-down time, but try to take those little brief moments when there's a little bit of quiet or a little bit of something. | ||
| I played my nine-year-old nephew in NBA 2K on PlayStation 4 online the other day. | ||
| Like, just try to do some things to, whether it's petting a cat or petting a dog or whatever it is, to enjoy a little of this, the craziness. | ||
| All right, shoutouts to Bud, Rudy, and Teresa. | ||
| David, you are getting a mug. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| David to David. | ||
| And Joe, you're getting a mug. | ||
| Uh-oh, I signed all these. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Got another one down here. | ||
| Thank you guys for the support. | ||
| It is really appreciated. | ||
| On Super Chat, I found out about you via Colin. | ||
| Good luck on everything. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| So you're talking about Colin Moriarty, obviously. | ||
| I love Colin. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He's been through the outrage machine and the mob, and he has survived. | ||
| Colin's doing His podcast, Sacred Symbols, with Chris Raygun, who you guys may know, who's also been on the show. | ||
| And Colin Stang on Patreon. | ||
| And as I said... | ||
| In no way do I judge him for it. | ||
| In certain respect, I think having some of us on there and off there offers the best form of attack. | ||
| Maybe having some of the guys stay on there still allows for them to fight from within, and maybe, who knows, maybe, you know, between some of us going and some of us staying, the Patreon people, Jack Conte and Jacqueline Hart, the head of Trust and Safety, they'll be like, you know, maybe we should alter the Terms of service a little bit not that I would trust them Because obviously Conte came in here and lied directly to my face when he said that you know You're not gonna be kicked off over speech But you know, it's just another way of dealing with things everyone everyone does things a little bit differently, you know unfortunately the way the online conversation is it's like everyone wants to behave force everyone to behave the exact same way and if you do anything even a little bit different you're the enemy and it's just like I don't think that way and I'm not gonna | ||
| Live that way. | ||
| Thanks to Alexander, to Douglas, and to David. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Dave, if Sargon had used actual slurs against someone and not just use a slur to quote someone's language back at them, and Patreon had banned them, would you still have left? | ||
| That's a really good, interesting, philosophical question. | ||
| So, okay, so the way, for those of you that don't know, the way Sargon was using the N-word in this specific video that was not on Patreon and not even on his YouTube channel, was he was basically using the language of the alt-right against them. | ||
| He wasn't using the N-word as a pejorative. | ||
| So your question is a good one. | ||
| If he had used the N-word in a racially offensive way, would this have resonated with us the way that it did? | ||
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I don't know exactly. | |
| Well, I certainly wouldn't want to defend him the way that I'm defending him right now. | ||
| Think about it if it was a friend of yours. | ||
| Let's say you found out that a friend of yours was truly a racist, was running around calling people the N-word and didn't like people because of their skin color or whatever that entails. | ||
| Would you really want to defend them? | ||
| The answer is probably no. | ||
| You might want to find out more about them and be like, is this the person I knew and whatever that is. | ||
| But would we have all—I guess your question really is, would we have seen this as the opportunity to take a stand? | ||
| Now, if he had been using the N-word as a pejorative and in a racially offensive way, against specific people, then it would have made this a | ||
| little more of a messy situation where Patreon would have more easily been able to say | ||
| "You're not up at sea" that would have not been on platform also. | ||
| It would have made it messier. I think that's the best I can say short of being in the exact situation | ||
| It would have made it messier. I'm for all people to be able to say whatever words they want. | ||
| I'm not afraid of words. | ||
| People call me all sorts of things. | ||
| You can call me a faggot or whatever you want to call me. | ||
| I will survive. | ||
| I really will. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Someone says a word to me and I don't crumble. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| At the end of the day, I still believe that these companies can do what they want. | ||
| What is the solution? | ||
| Well now I'm coming around to this idea that A, there's a technological solution, a sort of decentralized solution, but it's not just that. | ||
| It's also the fact that maybe we need these public spaces. | ||
| So what an interesting spot to be in if you come from a classical liberal or libertarian position where you don't want the government doing things that aren't within its purview. | ||
| That you might go, well, wait a minute, this is actually a good use of government. | ||
| This is a good use of government dollars to be, we are going to create spaces online, platforms that allow people to be involved in conversations, that allow people to be able to post video, to interact, all of those things that are public spaces that we There isn't a 27 page terms of service that you've got to look at with your lawyer that nobody has before you click accept that the only rules that you will have to abide by are the rules that you have to abide by as a citizen which are the rules of the Constitution and your local laws and things of that nature. | ||
| There's something to that and I want to think about it a little bit more. | ||
| Reminder guys if you go to DaveRubin.com slash donate if you donate five bucks or above I'm gonna give you a live shout out 25 bucks or above you're getting one of the last remaining monthly by the way 25 bucks or above monthly you're getting one of the last remaining Rubin Report select t-shirts which will never be produced again and for $50 or more I will sign a mug for you right now and you get the t-shirt so there you go all right Here, have some money since I'm no longer on Patreon. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That was from Super Chat. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Curious how you'll decide who will be allowed to join the new platform. | ||
| Keep it open versus limit extremists. | ||
| This is one of the many things that we're discussing right now. | ||
| We are discussing all of this stuff. | ||
| Look, if we open it up to everybody. | ||
| Well, then you know what happens. | ||
| You're gonna get all of the truly bad actors. | ||
| The real racists and white supremacists and ISIS and all of the real bad guys that everyone agrees are the bad guys. | ||
| You know, like, that are probably up to criminal activity and all sorts of stuff. | ||
| Now, as long as they're not doing something specifically illegal, I think there's an argument to be made that they can be on there and express their right to express themselves. | ||
| That may not be the platform that we are going to build here. | ||
| We're really trying to figure this out. | ||
| I'm not leading that answer in any weird way. | ||
| We're all having a sort of internal debate about that. | ||
| Do we wanna do something? | ||
| Maybe the way the internet is, the nature of the future of the internet is that not everything should be so big and everybody should be able to get on there and fight with everybody that maybe it should be invite only or a sort of whitelisted thing, something like that. | ||
| So we're figuring out all of these things. | ||
| I think you guys know me. | ||
| My general position on this is I want as little gatekeeping as possible. | ||
| I would rather have as many voices as possible. | ||
| I would rather have, for all the people that have been banned on Twitter, it's like I'd rather have all those people back. | ||
| And if you don't like them, you mute them or you block them or you just ignore them. | ||
| But this subjective way that they do it is crazy. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| So it's like Sargon is also banned on Twitter, or Milo is banned on Twitter, or Alex Jones is banned on Twitter. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Twitter can do what it wants. | ||
| But at the same time, say Farrakhan is on Twitter. | ||
| He called Jews termites, and what did Twitter do? | ||
| They took away his blue check, but they left him on there. | ||
| So it's like, you can stay on our platform, but we're not going to tell people who you are. | ||
| I don't know, I guess that's something. | ||
| Or, you know, Hamas is on there. | ||
| You know, like, really awful groups are on there, but we select, basically, if you're more on the right, the groups that get booted. | ||
| So, it's this selective enforcement and this never-ending amorphous terms of service that seems to always hit people on the right and not people on the left. | ||
| Look, if you're on the left right now, anyone watching this, Test me right now. | ||
| Anyone watching this, go on Twitter and call whoever you want a white supremacist. | ||
| You will not be banned. | ||
| It's extremely damaging to call someone a white supremacist, and it's usually slander, but you can do it, and there's no repercussions for it. | ||
| Now go on and call someone the N-word. | ||
| Now I'm not saying do that. | ||
| I'm not saying do that, but you get my point here, is that we've got a selective way we enforce these things. | ||
| These companies can selectively enforce if they so choose, but maybe we need an option outside of these companies. | ||
| That's what I'm saying about that. | ||
| Shout out to Ryan and to Jord. | ||
| You're getting a mug, brother. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Welcome aboard the future of the Internet. | ||
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| Let's see. | ||
| Would you talk to Peter Schiff privately about if and how to incorporate crypto or a different payment system other than crypto? | ||
| He's brilliant and has been on Joe Rogan's show a few times. | ||
| I think we've traded some emails over the years and for some reason it didn't work out. | ||
| I'm not opposed to doing it. | ||
| And I am exploring all sorts of other financial options here. | ||
| We're trying to figure it out. | ||
| That's what we're doing there. | ||
| Get Bitcoin Jesus on the show. | ||
| I don't know who that is, but seems like an interesting guy. | ||
| Keep up the good work. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Whoop whoop. | ||
| Donate 25 on the website. | ||
| Need an extra large shirt. | ||
| Love the content. | ||
| If they hate you, you're doing good. | ||
| Yeah, I'm definitely coming around to that one. | ||
| It's like, all right, you guys are going to spend all day. | ||
| Like, can you imagine? | ||
| Somebody like waking up and it's like what did Ruben do on a live stream? | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| It's like oh my god get a life like that's more than anything else It's just like what are you doing with your life? | ||
| Okay, what are we doing here guys? | ||
| Giving away mugs, $50 and above monthly at RubinReport.com. | ||
| I'm gonna sign it for ya. | ||
| Or at DaveRubin.com slash donate 25 bucks or above, you're gonna get a t-shirt. | ||
| We're gonna send it out to ya. | ||
| That's monthly. | ||
| And five bucks or above, I'm giving shout outs to anyone that jumps in. | ||
| I am at the Ontario Improv tomorrow night with Brett Weinstein. | ||
| And I am at the Irvine Improv on January 30th with an IDW. | ||
| All right, keep the questions flying in, guys. | ||
| Shout out to Joshua. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Welcome aboard. | ||
| This is on Super Chat. | ||
| Shout out to CBD American Shaman of San Antonio. | ||
| Are they selling CBD legally in Texas right now? | ||
| Well, I guess CBD can be sold. | ||
| This is where I'm always a little confused about the CBD situation. | ||
| But I have, you know, I have a friend who hurt her shoulder and she's been using medicinal CBD, but, but out of cannabis. | ||
| And I think maybe if it's in Texas, you're getting it out of hemp. | ||
| Am I totally crossing this thing up? | ||
| But anyway, had a really bad shoulder. | ||
| She's been using medicinal CBD. | ||
| It seems to be working. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| There's a little CBD something for you. | ||
| Keep up the good work. | ||
| Another one of those. | ||
| Okay, I will. | ||
| Oh, here's a whole bunch more. | ||
| I didn't scroll properly. | ||
| Which crazy lefty would you most like to interview? | ||
| And I'd love a mug. | ||
| All right, well, you can get a mug if you donate over at DaveRubin.com slash donate. | ||
| Which crazy lefty? | ||
| Let's remove the word crazy for a second. | ||
| There are plenty of lefties I would love to sit down with. | ||
| Obviously, I'd love to sit down with Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, and certainly Alexandria Cortez. | ||
| I would love to sit, you know, I offer it up to the celebrity types all the time. | ||
| So like a Rob Reiner or a Judd Apatow. | ||
| Or Sarah Silverman or Chelsea Handler. | ||
| I'll talk to any of these people. | ||
| Look, as long as you don't attack me personally or other people that I know personally. | ||
| If your basic behavior is decent and we can agree on what a conversation is, I'll talk to you. | ||
| But if you're going to attack people, if you're going to lie about people and all those things, I just don't want to do it. | ||
| It's just not a game I want to play. | ||
| Go play that game with somebody else. | ||
| Okay, where are we? | ||
| I love that hyperspace painting behind your couch. | ||
| Keep it up. | ||
| Oh yeah, if you saw the... Did I do both of those in there? | ||
| I think I did both of the conversations with Jordan. | ||
| That's in my living room. | ||
| It's a huge five foot by six foot hand painting of hyperspace, so Millennium Falcon going into hyperspace. | ||
| That was done by Kaylin Janet, by the way. | ||
| I think her website is kaylinrosejanet.com. | ||
| She also did the painting that's behind me right now, the painting that's over there, | ||
| and a whole bunch of other stuff in my house. | ||
| She's a really phenomenal, versatile actress. | ||
| She's probably an actress too. | ||
| Artist who can do almost anything. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| What are your thoughts, wait. | ||
| Have you heard the Beauty and the Beta podcast where a caller mentions making an alternative to Patreon? | ||
| He mentions you by name. | ||
| It might be a good idea to get in contact with him. | ||
| I haven't heard it. | ||
| I did that podcast once. | ||
| That's Matt Christensen, who's been a huge ally in this Patreon. | ||
| Fiasco, but I haven't heard that one specifically, but I can tell you that I've had a bajillion people just reach out to me Here's and you know people are just coming up with ideas to which is also cool And it also shows you that this thing is going to be solved by human ingenuity Not by the government or not by just like the same old people like I don't think it's gonna be the same old tech people That solve this right like I actually think it's going to be new people That are doing it, and I wish I had time to respond to everybody that's reaching out to me and all that other stuff. | ||
| Shout-outs if you donate at daverubin.com slash donate. | ||
| Okay, and there's a shout-out for Brooke! | ||
| I made that one happen quick. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| This is from Super Chat. | ||
| Coinbase is problematic, but you can still buy crypto on their platform and then move it to another wallet before sending support to Gab. | ||
| Crypto is still the best option for censorship resistance. | ||
| I also sent you $10 in Bitcoin. | ||
| Well, thank you for that. | ||
| Yeah, so from what I understand, if I'm really grasping this all properly, you could still Putting Gab aside for a second, just the principle would be that you could still use Coinbase because you can use it as your wallet and then you can put your crypto wherever else you want to put it. | ||
| I got one of these, it's called the Ledger, and that's like a physical device that I have where I'm now keeping the crypto. | ||
| So we're truly just trying to figure this out alongside you guys. | ||
| A mug for Zachary! | ||
| You're getting a mug, Zachary, here you go. | ||
| Oh, and somebody told me, but please confirm this before I ruin this for you. | ||
| Somebody told me that, so if you put these in the washing machine, sometimes the signature is going to be written, even though I'm using extreme fade-resistant Sharpie. | ||
| But it could wash off in the dishwasher. | ||
| Somebody told me that if you bake the mug, but can someone confirm this for me? | ||
| If you bake the mug that the signature will stay in there. | ||
| So I guess we will see about that. | ||
| The meaning of life is to give life meaning, therefore isn't the key to life giving? | ||
| Big love to you and Jordan. | ||
| That's very profound. | ||
| The meaning of life is to live, deleted as I said it. | ||
| All right, there you go. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Yo Dave, crazy idea, invite Joe Rogan on the show. | ||
| He always does the interviewing, so I think it would be cool to have him as the subject. | ||
| Plus, I think you guys would get along for the most part. | ||
| Well, I've been on Joe Rogan's show three times. | ||
| I was on there, last time was maybe May or June or so. | ||
| I had just flown in from Atlanta that morning. | ||
| I think that was May. | ||
| I love Joe. | ||
| He knows he's welcome anytime. | ||
| The guy is beyond, beyond, beyond busy. | ||
| He doesn't do that many shows. | ||
| He did do Ben Shapiro's Sunday special, which I gave him a little shit for because he hadn't done my show yet. | ||
| But I'm sure at some point he'll be here. | ||
| So Joe, if you're watching, because I'm sure you're just sitting around watching these, please, you're welcome on my show anytime. | ||
| He knows he's welcome anytime. | ||
| A shout out to Othman. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Patreon. | ||
| Canceling my Patreon account now. | ||
| You were the only person I was contributing to, so thank you very much. | ||
| We'll start up on your website very soon. | ||
| Another one on Patreon. | ||
| I set up a recurring contribution directly on your website and I'm going to cancel my account with Patreon. | ||
| Thank you for making me aware and leading the way for my small act of standing up To intolerance and oppression. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Another one on Patreon. | ||
| I just now cancelled my pledge to the Rubin Report for my Patreon account. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Did somebody already get the old coffee table? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| So I mentioned in the livestream the other day. | ||
| This is our new set. | ||
| So we've got our old set, which are the old chairs. | ||
| We've got two of the old guest chairs. | ||
| We've got the old coffee table. | ||
| We've got a lot of the old trinkets and things that are around here, some of the old artwork. | ||
| I thought maybe if people make us some really great offers on that stuff, as long as we're raising funds right now, people could do that. | ||
| So we did get a couple offers. | ||
| They were kind of low, like it just wasn't worth Parting with them at that level. So yeah, if you want to | ||
| make a great offer, you could just email us contact@rubinreport.com As I said, we got two of the the guest chairs | ||
| I'm not getting rid of my red chair because I still use that when we do the three ways in here | ||
| But we got the coffee table and a couple other things so you can check that out | ||
| Will your old shows be accessible somewhere on I'm behind in my recent retirement. | ||
| Was it going to afford me time to catch up? | ||
| That's from Patreon. | ||
| I think what you're referring to is that you watch the show in the Patreon feed. | ||
| So to be clear, 100% of our content, especially if you're watching this right now, you're watching this via YouTube. | ||
| The video might be in the Patreon feed, but this is all on YouTube. | ||
| 100% of our content will remain free. | ||
| It will always be free. | ||
| I am not putting content behind a paywall. | ||
| The only thing we've ever done behind a paywall is a couple like behind the scenes things where I ask a guest an extra question or something like that. | ||
| We've never put any interviews behind a paywall. | ||
| I am not going to do that. | ||
| I'm not starting a separate show behind a paywall or anything along those lines. | ||
| As long as we can afford to produce the show as we're doing it and hopefully expand a bit | ||
| and keep doing everything we're doing and I can keep working on other projects | ||
| which can also help fund all this, you will be able to see everything we've ever done. | ||
| So right now, if you're watching this person that asked me that question, | ||
| every video that we have ever posted anywhere, it's all on YouTube right now, | ||
| every interview we've ever done, so you can catch it there. | ||
| Shout outs to Tony, Charles, and Gary. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Oh, I get this one a lot. | ||
| What are some books that changed your life? | ||
| Love the show and everything you do, Dave. | ||
| So I'll give the two books that I most give, and then I'm gonna start coming up with a newer answer for this. | ||
| On My Bed Right Now, On My Nightstand Right Now. | ||
| I keep a copy of On Liberty by John Stuart Mill. | ||
| You can read it in a day. | ||
| It's that thick. | ||
| And it's just a wonderful explanation of the individual and what liberty and freedom are, and it's a great explainer of sort of classical liberalism as I see it. | ||
| And then the other book that I would recommend, which I should have on set, but I don't, because all the books that we have on set actually are books of former guests, and I wish I could have interviewed this guy, but he died about... | ||
| Maybe 15 years ago? | ||
| No, he died, I know the year he died. | ||
| He died I think in 97, so wow, 21 years ago if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| Carl Sagan, who is the incredible scientist who did Cosmos, the book, and the television show, his last book was called Billions and Billions. | ||
| He actually died before it finished, and then his wife, Ann Druyan, who's also a professor at Cornell, she had to finish it for him. | ||
| And it was just sort of a broad explanation. | ||
| It was a little bit easier to read than some of his other books, which were a little technical, although he was an incredible explainer of science. | ||
| It's a broad sort of explainer about the way the world is and the way he sees it and what he sort of sees the future looking like. | ||
| And it really just sparked so much of the things that I care about in me. | ||
| Shout out to Steven and a mug for Tom! | ||
| Thank you very much, guys. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| There you go, Tom. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Why do you think crypto would help? | ||
| Be specific. | ||
| It's not a silver bullet. | ||
| If you can't convert tender into crypto, it's useless. | ||
| Too many hoops to jump. | ||
| I'm not totally sure I understand the question. | ||
| If you can't convert tender into crypto, it's useless, but you can. | ||
| Right now, you can buy crypto using tender. | ||
| So am I not understanding the question? | ||
| Maybe I'm not understanding the question. | ||
| If you want to clarify the question a little bit more. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| Dave, you should consider inviting the author Robert Greene on the show. | ||
| He's in California and would be a great fit. | ||
| I'm actually not totally sure who that is, so if you want to write a little bit more, I will check it out. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| Here's a second emphatic vote for getting in touch with Peter Schiff. | ||
| A cryptocurrency backed by gold, his thing is the most promising political solution in my view. | ||
| All right, noted. | ||
| Let's put Peter Schiff on the list, guys, if he's not on there already. | ||
| He must be on there already. | ||
| Okay, how long do we got here? | ||
| What time is it? | ||
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| I got 23 minutes left, guys. | ||
| This is, I promise you, this is the second-to-last fundraiser of the year, even though we're in the first week of the year. | ||
| Or we're in a week of the day of the year. | ||
| A week and a day of the year. | ||
| We're gonna do one more of these on January 15th. | ||
| I'm gonna take my computer, I'm gonna walk over to the camera right over there, and you're gonna watch me delete Patreon. | ||
| You know, I should tell you something. | ||
| about what's going on with Patreon right now. | ||
| So, you know, I've done obviously a bunch of videos about leaving, I have sent emails to my email list | ||
| about leaving, we've posted on Patreon that we're leaving, I've put it on Instagram, I mean, | ||
| wherever you can put it, I've put it. | ||
| But right now, despite all of that, we still have about 2,000 people | ||
| that are paying monthly on Patreon. | ||
| And I think if I'm not mistaken, or last I checked a day or so ago, | ||
| there was still about $14,000 a month of paying people on Patreon, | ||
| meaning that if I didn't cancel Patreon, they would all be charged again on February 1st. | ||
| So it's sort of interesting, because it's like people buy into something | ||
| and then you may not pay attention to the day-to-day, you may have unsigned for a. | ||
| an email list, let's say, and if you're not paying attention on Twitter | ||
| and you don't check YouTube for a couple weeks or this or that or the other thing, | ||
| it's like you may not even know. | ||
| So it's such a weird thing. | ||
| It's like I'm gonna say goodbye to this money that in effect is like free money, | ||
| but obviously I don't think it would be right to say I'm leaving and then not leave | ||
| just to collect on that. | ||
| So we're obviously not gonna do that. | ||
| But it'll be an interesting thing to see how much, how many people and how much is left in the account | ||
| when I do this a week from today. | ||
| That would be, that would be interesting. | ||
| Let's see, shout out to Henrik. | ||
| Thank you very much, appreciate it. | ||
| Alright, 20 minutes left, guys. | ||
| DaveRubin.com slash donate. | ||
| Get yourself a mug, get yourself a Rubin Select t-shirt. | ||
| They're right here. | ||
| I'm wearing one right now. | ||
| I'm wearing a medium, by the way, if that gives you any perspective on sizing. | ||
| They're quite comfortable. | ||
| It's not like one of those crappy t-shirts. | ||
| You know those crappy t-shirts you put on and they feel like cardboard? | ||
| It is not that. | ||
| It feels nice. | ||
| I think you'll like it. | ||
| My dad Often wears the T-shirt when he's wandering around town and people say hi to him. | ||
| I want to take selfies with my dad. | ||
| That's very weird, but people want to do it. | ||
| Okay, let's see what's going on here. | ||
| I got, get Bitcoin Jesus on the show. | ||
| I did that one already. | ||
| When are you inviting Matt Christensen on the show? | ||
| So that was mentioned already about Matt. | ||
| Yeah, we'll do it at some point. | ||
| I think he lives in like Montana or Wyoming or something. | ||
| I don't know how often he gets out to LA. | ||
| you know, we can do these things by Skype, but I'm really trying not to do them | ||
| unless it's either like a really big guest or somebody that's international | ||
| that really just can't make it here. | ||
| But if it's someone in the States that's mobile or whatever, I'd much rather do it in person. | ||
| Also right now, just FYI, we're booked out all through January. | ||
| We've got a gajillion shows. | ||
| We're taping a ton of stuff. | ||
| Some really cool stuff. | ||
| Oh, and tomorrow, we taped this already. | ||
| I've got an interview with behavioral scientist Jeffrey Miller, who is a really, really, psychological behavioral scientist. | ||
| Jeffrey Miller, really, really interesting guy. | ||
| It was one of my favorite interviews I've done in a while, and I think we've been on a nice run here. | ||
| So that'll be up, part one of that'll be up tomorrow. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I'll donate 100 bucks if you answer these questions. | ||
| Do you think you will shave your beard soon? | ||
| The answer is no. | ||
| I do love the beard and people love the beard. | ||
| Everyone that I meet, everywhere I go, they want to touch the beard. | ||
| They love the beard. | ||
| So I'm not going to shave the beard anytime soon. | ||
| Although when I got the beard, which was not last August, but the August before when I | ||
| did my thing off the grid and I just grew it and grew it and grew it and then I trimmed | ||
| it a little bit before I came back on camera, I thought I was going to maybe have it for | ||
| like a month or so, but then everyone loved it and I really like it. | ||
| So I'm going to keep the beard. | ||
| Also, do you like Jordan Peterson better with a beard or without a beard? | ||
| I like him better with a beard. | ||
| I like him better with a beard. | ||
| I think there's something about... | ||
| There's something about his persona that a beard fits it, like his graying beard. | ||
| He's sort of the older, wise professor. | ||
| He's mentoring or helping a lot of people get their shit together and get their lives together. | ||
| There's something that fits with a guy in a beard, right? | ||
| Like if this was a movie, he's the older professor with a beard that's teaching people some stuff. | ||
| It seems like he would have a beard. | ||
| That's like a Harry Potter or Star Wars thing. | ||
| He would have a beard. | ||
| When are you coming to Brazil? | ||
| No plans at the moment? | ||
| Yeah, as I said, I don't know why we're not doing much in South America on the Jordan Tour. | ||
| I'll look into that a little bit more. | ||
| I'm actually not sure. | ||
| Shoutouts to George, to Nick, and to Matt. | ||
| You guys sound like you could be a boy band. | ||
| And a mug for Dennis. | ||
| Welcome aboard, Dennis. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's a fine signature right there. | ||
| You got it, Dennis. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Okay, what else is going on here? | ||
| Wait, what else can I tell you? | ||
| There's been so many things happening at once. | ||
| It's hard to keep my head on straight in the midst of all of this. | ||
| Oh, you know, I got a question for you guys, actually, because you guys often give me some good advice on some things. | ||
| So I've shown her on video a couple times, but my dog, Emma, she's 14 years old. | ||
| I love, love, love this dog. | ||
| I got her when she was two years old. | ||
| She's actually from New Orleans, from Hurricane Katrina. | ||
| And when the dogs got split up after the hurricane, they were sent all over the country, and I assume all over the world, actually. | ||
| They actually found Emma in a box And she had given birth during the hurricane and she was nursing three puppies and she was deathly sick because they're drinking all sorts of oils in the water and all sorts of chemicals and gross stuff that's in the water. | ||
| The puppies were actually healthy. | ||
| She was really sick. | ||
| The animals got sent all over the place. | ||
| She had a collar with no tags, so they didn't know what her name was. | ||
| So she's actually had three names in life because when she was in New Orleans, she had a name. | ||
| We don't know what that was. | ||
| Then we got her at the Humane Society of New York, which is a great little non-kill shelter. | ||
| It's not associated, as far as I know, with the National Humane Society. | ||
| It's just the one in New York City. | ||
| It's on 57th Street between First and Second, I think. | ||
| And we got her there, and they had named her Paisley. | ||
| And then when we got her, we named her Emma. | ||
| And I had had her the first day I'm walking her. | ||
| I got her walking her first day in Central Park, and this woman comes up to me and says, | ||
| Is that Paisley from the Humane Society? | ||
| I said, yeah. | ||
| She said, this is her son, Bernard. | ||
| And they went crazy, they sniffed butt like only a mother and son could, and we used to get Bernard and Emma together often. | ||
| Anyway, Bernard ended up moving to North Carolina. | ||
| But how bizarre, they went all over the country, And Bernard and Emma both ended up on the Upper West. | ||
| Anyway, Emma's about 14 right now. | ||
| She is the greatest, happiest, one most wonderful dog. | ||
| We get people that, you know, all my guests come into my home because my studio is here. | ||
| People that don't like dogs end up absolutely loving her. | ||
| But at 14, she's not a young pup anymore. | ||
| And I've noticed that she's a little stiff and mostly in the back hips lately. | ||
| So I'm thinking that maybe she has a little bit of arthritis or something. | ||
| So I'm looking at all sorts of Supplements and things that we can give her, and I know that they want you to take, it's a little counterintuitive. | ||
| You'd think you'd want them to rest more if they're in pain, but they actually tell you that an older dog should be walked more if they have arthritis, because that keeps them loose. | ||
| We can give them glucosamine and chondroitin, try saying that three times fast, and a whole bunch of other stuff. | ||
| Massages, heat pads, but if any of you have any great ideas on that, I would love to hear them, so please let me know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Shout out to Pamela. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And a mug for Mike. | ||
| Thank you very much, guys. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| You're keeping the Rubin Report totally independent. | ||
| I should mention, actually, what that means. | ||
| When I say we're completely independent, we are 100% independent, period. | ||
| I am the boss. | ||
| The buck stops with me. | ||
| That might be good, that might be bad. | ||
| I think it's pretty good. | ||
| But we treat all of our employees great. | ||
| We take care of 100% of health insurance. | ||
| We give nice bonuses. | ||
| I try to let everybody be as free as they can be as long as they're doing their job. | ||
| And we get that respect back. | ||
| We've got a great little operation here that I'm super proud of. | ||
| And when I say we're independent, we have no It's my production company. | ||
| We run it as we see fit. | ||
| The chances I'm ever gonna fire myself? | ||
| Pretty slim. | ||
| I guess anything could happen. | ||
| But we're free to do what we think is right, which is why when I'm getting these offers from these networks, It's like, it would take something crazy, and I'm not even using this as a negotiating tool, it's like, it would take something crazy for me to have a boss and not be in a studio in my home and all of these things. | ||
| Like, we really did this thing right somehow, and knock on wood, we can keep doing it. | ||
| Shout out to Chaz, and a shout out to Louis, and just a reminder, we've got about 15 minutes left, that one week from today, on January 15th, we will be doing a live stream. | ||
| You will watch me delete Patreon live, I'm going to bring my computer right up to that camera right there and we're going to do it live. | ||
| Patreon, really proud of you Dave. | ||
| There aren't many people willing to stick their necks out the way you and Mr. Peterson are doing. | ||
| 2019 is going to be an exciting year to say the least. | ||
| We will definitely be switching contributions over to daverubin.com. | ||
| Donate all the best. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Someone else on Patreon. | ||
| It's not so much that we are not paying attention to the day-to-day, I am hoping that Patreon figures this | ||
| out. | ||
| What they did for Independent Voices was nothing short of amazing, | ||
| and I'd hoped to be a creator myself. | ||
| They're the only game in town, sort of, and I want them to come to their senses | ||
| and rethink their casual disregard for free speech. | ||
| That's totally legit. | ||
| And that's why I said for my friends that are staying on Patreon, I get it. | ||
| For someone like, like right now, like the idea that let's say Colin, for example, Colin Moriarty, who's obviously been on the show and is a good buddy of mine. | ||
| For those of you that are canceling Patreon because of me, the idea that some of you might fund Colin as well and now he's not going to get that, that obviously doesn't make me happy in any way. | ||
| It actually upsets me. | ||
| But I think everyone just has to do what they think is right. | ||
| Like at the end, it's on you and you have to decide what to do. | ||
| Look, I suppose there's probably some people that'll stay on there for Colin | ||
| and then donate separately for me. | ||
| You know, it's everyone, everyone, or screw both of us. | ||
| Whatever you think is right. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Shout outs to Lucille, to Robert and to Dimitri. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Beautiful story about Emma Dave. | ||
| Also, to explain my last comment, Robert Greene is the author of 48 Laws of Power. | ||
| You'd really love his stuff. | ||
| Let's get the book. | ||
| Can somebody write that down? | ||
| We'll get the book. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| And see what happens there. | ||
| Keep it up, Dave. | ||
| Please donate my t-shirt. | ||
| I don't know if you're saying you're donating a t-shirt to us or something else, but thank you. | ||
| I've spent a thousand plus hours building a Patreon alternative with anti-censorship features in the past year. | ||
| What would be the best way to get in touch and present it to you guys? | ||
| So I'm getting all sorts of offers like this and it's a little hard to track like who's legit, who isn't. | ||
| I've had some phone calls with people that I think have been really interesting and some kind of go nowhere. | ||
| Contact at RubinReport.com is the best way to do it. | ||
| My guys kind of go through it, and the most important ones get to me, and then if you're really onto something here, I hope so, and then we do a Zoom or a Skype or take a call and go from there. | ||
| Superchat, I appreciate your willingness to stand up. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Superchat, the government slash payment processors can stop you using crypto if they really want to, especially the ones with transparency built in like Bitcoin. | ||
| So this, I need to learn more about this. | ||
| I fully admit that. | ||
| Like, I don't fully understand how the government, if you were doing, if all the transactions were on crypto, were crypto based, how would the government be tracking that? | ||
| No, I guess they could track if they had the specific, you know, Bitcoin number or the wallet number Wallet address they could track what's going in there. | ||
| I need to learn a little bit more about this guys I'm you're watching me do some of this stuff on the fly. | ||
| Like that's just the truth. | ||
| Shout out to David. | ||
| There you go Oh, you know speaking of doing some stuff on the fly something funny happened the other day so I did this live stream just like this and And you know, I'm taking questions, right? | ||
| And you guys can see, these questions are just flying in, right? | ||
| And my guys color-code them sometimes if they think something's particularly important for me to get to, or that I need to read it quicker, or whatever it is, right? | ||
| And so the other day I took, I don't know, I took 50 questions, I have no idea, and I'm just reading them on the fly. | ||
| They're not censoring them. | ||
| And then someone asked me something about Brazil and I said one little thing about how I need to know more. | ||
| And then all of these people started writing all these articles and doing these videos about how I'm backing a dictator in Brazil and I'm a fascist and the rest of it. | ||
| It's like, man, like Bill Kristol. | ||
| Formerly of the Weekly Standard, which just folded, he retweeted somebody saying something about me. | ||
| And it's like, what are you people talking about? | ||
| I said one sentence in a two-hour live stream. | ||
| You're taking it totally out of context. | ||
| And I admitted I need to know more about the topic. | ||
| Like, this sort of desire to destroy everybody, it's like, it's going to destroy you guys. | ||
| It ain't going to destroy me. | ||
| It's going to destroy you guys, and deservingly so. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Dave, is the new platform going to be 100% geared towards free speech or is it going to be an echo chamber? | ||
| I promise you it is not going to be an echo chamber. | ||
| As I've said, we're trying to figure out what the parameters around that mean. | ||
| Is this an absolute place for everyone? | ||
| I mean, I can be very clear. | ||
| I don't want people doing criminal activity. | ||
| I don't want child porn on there. | ||
| I don't want terrorist activity on there. | ||
| So an absolute free speech space? | ||
| Within the confines of the law, my goal is yes, but we have to figure out exactly what that means, and we're working on it. | ||
| All right, guys, we got 10 minutes left, so daverubin.com slash donate. | ||
| You guys are the lifeblood of the show. | ||
| You've already shown up for me here today, as you have last time. | ||
| I promise you we're only doing one more of these this entire year. | ||
| We're knocking them out by January 15th. | ||
| We will not do any sort of fundraising for the rest of the year. | ||
| We're doing well. | ||
| Obviously, we took a huge hit on Patreon, and I'm now forcing the hit, but we're making up a nice amount of it on our own website, DaveRubin.com slash donate. | ||
| It's a short stopgap measure of getting rid of the middle guy. | ||
| If you donate 50 in the next 10 minutes, I'm gonna sign a Rubin Report mug for ya. | ||
| If you donate 25 monthly in the next 10 minutes, I'm gonna send you this t-shirt. | ||
| And if it's 50, you get the t-shirt too. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| Find a chiropractor, it saved my boy's life. | ||
| Oh, I think you're talking about your dog. | ||
| Alright, yeah, oh, find a dog. | ||
| Find a dog chiropractor. | ||
| It saved my boy's life, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I read that there are actual dog chiropractors, so I may take her to one of those. | ||
| We'll see about that. | ||
| Dr. John Bergman's studies on reversing arthritis may help you with Emma. | ||
| As a side note, Dr. Joe Dispenza is a great guest choice. | ||
| So I'll look into both of those. | ||
| Can you guys write those down? | ||
| Thank you guys for that, I really appreciate it. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I'm a conservative and I just bought a mug, but I wanted to give the mug to a liberal teacher of mine because your show gave us common ground. | ||
| Could you sign it for her? | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I can email you the info. | ||
| Yes, I'd be happy to do that. | ||
| Helen will keep an eye out. | ||
| So email us. | ||
| Contact at RubinReport.com. | ||
| Remind us about this and I will sign it directly to her and you can give it to her. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| People don't hate each other, for the most part. | ||
| Like, there are good liberals, there are good conservatives, there are even good progressives. | ||
| I think their ideas are all terrible, basically, right? | ||
| Like, you guys know that. | ||
| That doesn't mean I think they're all terrible people. | ||
| Are many of them, I think, confused, sort of, logically and... | ||
| And morally at a certain level, yes, I think so. | ||
| But I don't think they're inherently bad people. | ||
| Do I think that they think that they're doing the right thing? | ||
| Yes, I think those things are the wrong things. | ||
| But that's why we got to care about facts. | ||
| So it's like when AOC the other day, she said this thing about, you know, too many people get hung up on facts and making sure everything's exactly right, as opposed to what's morally right. | ||
| That's a pretty dangerous thing to say because we all have different morals. | ||
| One of the topics we've spent in the last year talking about most years is where do morals come from? | ||
| And the difference where Sam Harris says morals can come from facts that are sort of right in front of you and we can figure out We can derive value and meaning from fact. | ||
| Some people, Ben say and Jordan, would say that comes from a Judeo-Christian ethic. | ||
| It doesn't matter what the answer is, but the point is we believe different things are moral, but I don't want politicians who are on a moral crusade. | ||
| I want politicians who look at the government, they go, this should be as least intrusive as possible. | ||
| And we're going to get out of the way, and we're going to let people live freely. | ||
| And that's going to be a little messy, and it's going to mean not everyone's going to get whatever they want, but we're not going to keep taking from everybody to give to some, and we're not going to just, we're not going to be involved in every facet of everyone's life. | ||
| Most bad things that have happened in the course of time have been done by government, and we have to really remember that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Shout out to Lisa! | ||
| There you go. | ||
| All right, guys. | ||
| We got six minutes left. | ||
| Give me some good questions to end up strong on. | ||
| Best of luck, Dave. | ||
| Another best of luck. | ||
| We got a whole bunch of best of lucks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Do you like mini-archasm? | ||
| In libertarian political philosophy, a night watchman state or mini-archasm, mini-archasm, I guess, is a model of a state who only functions Whose only functions are to provide its citizens with the military, the police, the courts, thus protecting them from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud and enforcing property laws. | ||
| I mean, that's not that far from what an ideal libertarian state would be. | ||
| So I would need to know, how is that different than what just a basic libertarian state would be? | ||
| I'm for as much as possible the states, each individual state, deciding what it wants to do if it wants to tax high or tax low and that maybe that's going to either bring in business or lose business. | ||
| I'm for states deciding whether they want marijuana to be legal or not and maybe that's going to bring people in and help the economy or maybe it's going to force certain people to leave. | ||
| I'm for states deciding how much tax money they want to take to put into education versus whether they want to Put it into funding a baseball stadium or whatever else. | ||
| I want that experiment, that incredibly beautiful American experiment of testing this and that and seeing what works and seeing where people move and where they stay away from and where freedom prospers and where people can make the most out of their lives and what laws cause people to leave. | ||
| That experiment is awesome to me and I'm for anything that would lead to more of that. | ||
| So what you just laid out there for me is pretty congruent with most of the things that I believe, but I would need to know a little bit more. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Superchat Yossi, being a patron isn't enough. | ||
| What am I buying here? | ||
| I don't know that you're buying anything, but it has been nice getting to know you a little bit. | ||
| That is actually one of the things. | ||
| One of the things is that I've been able to meet a lot of these patron people, and I've had dinner with some people, and when I was on the road with Jordan, I would get coffee with people and chat with people. | ||
| There's something cool happening here. | ||
| There's something cool. | ||
| All right, we got four minutes left, people. | ||
| These are your last chances right now during this livestream to get the mug or the t-shirt. | ||
| I'm gonna sign mugs. | ||
| How many more? | ||
| Here, I got four in this box right now. | ||
| Can we get rid of all these four? | ||
| I got a whole other box right here, but I got four remaining. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| If you do it for these last four, Because we got four minutes left, I got four mugs. | ||
| Anyone else that gets on until we shut down in four minutes, I'll actually put your name on it, too. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| DaveRubin.com slash donate, 50 bucks monthly. | ||
| You're gonna get the mug, I'm gonna put your name on it, and you're gonna get the t-shirt, and you're gonna feel good about yourself. | ||
| We should be selling totes, okay. | ||
| All right, Tanner and Eric, I'm writing your name. | ||
| There you go, Tanner and Eric. | ||
| I don't know if you guys were signing up before I did it, but Tanner, you're getting a mug. | ||
| Tanner, I even put an exclamation point after your name. | ||
| That's exciting. | ||
| And Eric with a CK, the rare CK Eric. | ||
| All right, very good. | ||
| Eric, you're getting a mug. | ||
| Eric. | ||
| Eric, you got a comma. | ||
| I gave the other guy an exclamation point. | ||
| Brandon, thank you very much. | ||
| All right, guys, getting rid of these last couple of mugs right here. | ||
| DaveBroom.com slash donate. | ||
| We got three minutes left. | ||
| I talked a lot today. | ||
| I mean, try to imagine. | ||
| I did two full-on interviews. | ||
| Then I did a half-hour interview. | ||
| Then I started the morning at 7 a.m. | ||
| with a radio station in Altoona, Pennsylvania, I think, which actually was totally fun. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Oh, this is a great question. | ||
| Why is the Rubin Report based out of California if that state's economic and political climate is as bad as conservatives say? | ||
| Is it exaggeration? | ||
| Well, I don't think it's as bad. | ||
| So first off, the taxes here are insane. | ||
| They're absolutely insane. | ||
| Now, I do have a business here, so I'm able to write off a lot of stuff, right? | ||
| So if we buy a whole bunch of bugs, we're able to write that off as a business expense, obviously. | ||
| There's some other things that we're able to write off that, you know, business expenses when we buy equipment and computers and things of that nature. | ||
| So that helps a little bit on the tax front. | ||
| Why is it here? | ||
| I mean, the main reason it's here, and in L.A. | ||
| specifically, is that, well, A, I moved to L.A. | ||
| It'll be six years in February, and when I moved to L.A., it was sort of at the beginning of all of this, and I was just trying to get a gig that I thought was cool and whatever. | ||
| I hadn't really Um, sort of figured all this stuff out. | ||
| What I would say now is, I mean first off SoCal, LA, the weather is great. | ||
| Like it is 80 and sunny almost every day. | ||
| The worst day in SoCal is like the best day almost everywhere else instead of San Diego. | ||
| But you're going to pay for that because a lot of people want to live here obviously. | ||
| But that's not it, although I do enjoy the weather for sure. | ||
| The real thing that keeps me here right now is that there really is a nice thing growing in Los Angeles. | ||
| A nice sort of Center-right classical liberal libertarian conservative thing growing right here in LA I mean look Ben Shapiro's here Peter Thiel just moved down here Dennis Prager is here But then there's other people that aren't don't necessarily finish that Sam Harris is here I mean, there's there's a lot of people in the Los Angeles area, you know, because the thing is that as politics is | ||
| As politics collide more with media, right, and as politics becomes more invested in what's going on with the digital world and YouTube and all that, well, now LA is the home of entertainment, and now politics is kind of becoming entertainment. | ||
| Now, that may be terrible for the long-term health of the country, but it's something that's happening right now. | ||
| So I think the whole gestalt of that, I would say, is the reason that I'm here. | ||
| Gestalt, good word, by the way. | ||
| All right, guys, we got one minute left. | ||
| How many more mugs am I gonna get rid of? | ||
| We will be doing another one of these on January 15th, when I will be shutting down Patreon Live right here. | ||
| It's daverubin.com slash donate. | ||
| And here's what we'll do, just in case you're about to sign on right now, because it is four o'clock and I gotta go. | ||
| I think the Tucker guy's waiting for me outside. | ||
| Anyway, we'll do another one of these next week. | ||
| We got Jeffrey Miller on tomorrow. | ||
| We got another bunch of cool shows coming up over the rest of the month. | ||
| 10 minutes, and you get the mug. | ||
| I'm gonna put your name on the mug itself. | ||
| Anyway, we'll do another one of these next week. | ||
| We got Jeffrey Miller on tomorrow. | ||
| We got another bunch of cool shows coming up over the rest of the month. | ||
| Then I hit Australia for most of February with Jordan. | ||
| Then I'm back here in March, and we're already, we're like overbooked already, but we'll leave some room | ||
| in case some interesting things pop up. | ||
| Then I may take the Rubin Report on the road for April. | ||
| I gotta look at that deal and see where we're at on that. | ||
| Then Jordan and I may hit the road again, or it sounds like we are, for May and June back to Europe. | ||
| And yeah, let's just keep going, right? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| What do you got better to do? | ||
| So thank you guys. | ||
| Thank you everybody that just donated. | ||
| You guys are the lifeblood of this thing. | ||
| You're keeping it going. | ||
| We're gonna be okay. | ||
| If we don't get any more donations, we're gonna be okay. | ||
| But the more we get, we can keep growing and expanding and all that stuff. | ||
| But truly, when I said we were leaving Patreon, I did not know what was gonna happen. | ||
| I didn't know if we said, okay, well, people, go to our website. | ||
| I didn't know if we were gonna wake up and it was gonna be like 15 people went there and we got a couple hundred bucks. | ||
| I'm like, I gotta lay off people or figure out something else to do. | ||
| But you guys have shown up. | ||
| You really have. | ||
| It's incredible, it's humbling, it's awesome. | ||
| You make me wanna be a better man. | ||
| I am looking forward to seeing some of you guys tomorrow night at the Ontario Improv in SoCal with Brett Weinstein. | ||
| January 30th at the Irvine Improv. | ||
| January 29th, I'm at Cal State... | ||
| I'm blanking, where am I? | ||
| Cal State somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, I think I'm at Cal State. | ||
| The college Republicans are inviting me. | ||
| I would have been glad to talk to the college Democrats, but they never invite me anywhere. | ||
| All right, that's it. | ||
| Catch me on Tucker. | ||
| I think I'll be on at 8.45 Eastern, which is about five or 15 minutes before this Trump guy is giving a talk about the wall. | ||
| All right, I'll see you guys around. |
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