Josephine Mathias joins Dave Rubin to critique identity politics, recounting her sister's experience at Ryerson University where sociology professors allegedly enforced feminist ideology over objective facts. She condemns Black Lives Matter Toronto's disruption of the Pride Parade and the redefinition of racism that excludes individual actions, while defending free speech regarding transgender pronouns against claims of dehumanization. Discussing her interracial relationship, Mathias rejects accusations of hypocrisy, emphasizing equality and individuality. Ultimately, she outlines plans to mentor youth in inner-city communities through grassroots education, arguing that systemic solutions require moving beyond performative activism to address real barriers like crime and poor schools. [Automatically generated summary]
So, let's just do a little bit about your history first, and then we're going to play a clip from one of your videos, in case people haven't seen some of your stuff, and then we're going to talk about all sorts of political stuff, because you are a true political beast.
So, you're originally from Nigeria, lived there for what, eight or nine years?
Yeah, I actually don't remember much about growing up in Nigeria and my parents kind of closed me off to what was really going on.
I lived in the gated community and yeah, I immigrated here when I was nine years old.
My dad actually first went to Canada when I was two.
He got here on a work visa, worked his ass off for years, for about seven years actually.
I didn't even know who my dad was for seven years and then when he, you know, got his visa and everything he brought my family over and yeah, now I'm in Canada.
Do your parents tell you anything about the political situation or anything at the time when you were growing up, even if you don't have great memories of it?
So, when I've watched a ton of your videos, I've thought, all right, I sense that she basically is a liberal, my kind of liberal, but I think you have probably some conservative leanings, perhaps, or at least have an understanding, I think that's what you're laying out here, you have an understanding of that line of thinking.
Okay, I know everyone says they don't like putting labels, but I absolutely hate labels because I have some conservative ideas, I have some liberal ideas, I have some classical liberal ideas, I have some progressive ideas, socialist ideas, all of them!
But I guess I just see, look at things from issue to issue, but I am, you know, primarily liberal, but I'm fiscally conservative, so that's kind of where I lean, I guess.
West has also been tweeting about the lack of freedom of thought in America.
And the backlash about whether Blacks can be allowed to be Republicans sure is helping prove his point.
But Black Americans, contrary to popular belief, can hold widely diverse and opposing opinions on political issues.
Maybe Kanye is a Republican.
I mean, he's never referred to himself as such, of course, but he said something about Trump that wasn't severely negative, so he's suddenly the Black Paul Ryan.
But even if he is, so what?
In fact, a 2012 study by Vincent Hutchins and Hakeem Jefferson using data from the American National Election Studies found that 45% of black Americans identify as conservatives.
Despite this, however, the Democratic Party typically receives 85-95% of the black American vote.
The tendency of Black Americans to vote Democrat allows the Dems to believe that they have a strong hold on the Black American vote.
In fact, back in 2016, when Kanye West announced he would run for president in 2020, the Democratic Party's official Twitter account immediately assumed he meant he'd be running for them, responding, If only the Dems had run Kanye in 2016.
Better candidate than she who shall not be named, to be honest.
Yeah, I think it's just—there's an idea that the Democratic Party is the best one for black Americans.
It's the one that's going to help black Americans.
And although they are conservative, you know, in the true sense of the word, they aren't necessarily Republican.
They don't believe in the Republican Party.
But it is very interesting.
I mean, no one group or identity votes the same way as black Americans do.
So there is some kind of, I guess, story that's being told to them that this is the way to do it, this is the way to go.
And I don't think, you know, the Republican Party, per se, is the way to go, and I don't think the Democratic Party.
Both parties are just garbage at this point.
But yeah, I think it's a little odd that the majority, 95%, vote one single way, but yet they're still conservative in a sense.
But yeah, I just think it's a leftover idea.
They just need to kind of start to re-figure things out.
But first, we probably have to start with changing up the government and changing up the party systems and try to find who to vote for instead of just picking Democrat or Republican.
Yeah, do you think this was more of a good sell job by the Democrats or a bad sell job by the Republicans?
Because when you look at all the cities, especially, where it's the worst for black people, they're always Democrat-run cities for decade after decade after decade, yet black people, still in extremely high numbers, keep voting Democrats.
And I think it's also the Republicans as well, and I think The Democrats make it feel like the Republicans are against the Black Americans, and the Republicans make it feel like, you know, the Black Americans are against the Republicans.
Like, it's just—I think both sides are not necessarily trying to help.
They're just trying to pander to their own side.
But it is interesting that you've been voting Democrat for so long and things are not getting better.
It's like, oh, maybe I should start voting a different way, or maybe I should start criticizing the Democratic Party.
I think that's actually the biggest thing, is it's not— It's not picking a side, it's criticizing what they're doing wrong.
It's criticizing, you know, this didn't work, let's try something else.
Instead of just saying, we need Democrat, that's it, this is what's gonna happen.
But it's clearly not working.
Let's try to figure out, you know, what policy changes we need, instead of trying to pick, like, you know, Democrat or Republican.
Sorry, I keep saying that, Democrat or Republican.
So I know you're not a huge proponent of the sort of Candace Kanye train in general, but the fact that that conversation is happening now, the fact that you made that video, You view that all as positive, right?
I think Kanye really allowed a lot of people to think for a second and try to investigate some more information, try to figure out why they hold certain ideas.
I think that was the biggest thing.
And it was really exciting to scroll through Facebook and see people that are not normally engaging in politics.
Now, actually, that might be scary because it's like the majority of people are I don't know what they're doing, but yeah, I'd rather have them involved in some way.
Exactly, I'd rather have them involved.
And the thing is, I think, as much as I, you know, dislike Candace's politics, I do think that it opened a lot of people's minds in the sense that it allowed them to investigate more.
And that's the most important thing, because if you're just stuck in the echo chamber, Kanye broke that.
A lot of people, all they see is, you know, Beyonce and Chrissy Teigen and all these celebrities are all just talking about the far left, you know, super I hate saying social justice warrior, but super social justice warrior talking points.
So Kanye broke that and showed them the other side.
Unfortunately, I think, you know, because Candice is kind of harsh and, you know, I think it's harder for people to connect with her that are already so down the drain of the far left.
And unfortunately, we might have to cuddle them.
Come on, come to the other side, it's okay, let me explain things to ya!
So do you view that as just like a personality trait?
Because that's what's interesting to me, like, people used to say to me all the time, well, you know, when you have Milo on, like, Milo's creating chaos, and out of chaos, my feeling was if I brought Milo on, that out of the chaos that he creates, that some people would hear some good ideas in a more calm, relaxed way, and then they'd join me on the adventure that I'm on, and I think there's proof in that pudding.
I think you're kind of a little bit more like me where I think you see a little bit of the chaos that Candace is creating and you want people to understand the ideas behind them.
Yeah that's that's the thing is that you know when Candace says one thing like stop the victim mentality for example I think black Americans that are stuck in like the far-left echo chamber just sees it as like a Excuse me?
Like, what are you trying to say?
Blah, blah, blah.
So it's like, they need—either she explains it further, which obviously she doesn't have to do.
I mean, she can do whatever she wants.
But I think she needs to break it down a little more, because saying, get off the plantation, the victimhood, it's harder for people that all they've ever heard is white privilege, white people suck, blah, blah, blah.
It's harder for them to kind of understand where she's coming from.
Because if you do break it down, it makes a lot of sense.
But if it's just thrown like that, then it's harder for them to figure it out.
But they can do the—I keep, like, pointing here, like the liberals are here.
These people over here, the liberals over here.
So they just need to kind of break it down and figure it out. - Do you think maybe you need
It allows them to kind of, you know, be more aware of what's going on.
I totally, I do think we need both of them.
We need people to say, you know, shut up, you're being annoying.
And we also need people to say, here's why you're being annoying.
We most certainly need both.
But yeah, I think she, what she does is, you know, it's awesome.
She has such a great platform.
And there are also other people that are doing the same thing, but in a more kind of calmer, I am not saying she's like crazy or anything, but yeah, she's just, she's a tough girl, and a lot of SJWs are snowflakes.
I mean, I think we've DM'd her, like we've talked over DMs on Twitter before, and this was after the whole Blaire White debate, and yeah, that was wild.
Guys, guys, guys, yeah.
No, I was just reaching out to her and asking her, like, hey, what's going on?
Like, I don't, because she was, I think, closing everyone off that were criticizing her, and I didn't want to openly criticize her.
I wanted to go directly to the source, but we left off on, like, a good note, so, yeah.
And she decided to take, she goes to Ryerson University, one of the Biggest far-left universities in Canada.
And he took a sociology course, that was her fault, and it was called How Society Works.
I think it was the title of the course is what bothered me, because if the course was feminism studies, if the course was, you know, how women are oppressed, then yes, sure.
But this is how society works.
And, you know, in their assignment they had to talk about know some societal issue and discuss it and analyze it or
whatever and she wanted to talk about the week or i actually encouraged a
right-wing community dot the wage gap in you know how it's false and
you know how it's misinterpreted in all that you were sending her i was
sending her up a little i i wanted to test out but i didn't know it would be
the professor would be no respond that way
uh... but yet on the right about the wage gap so she just sent like a short
thesis and said like here's what i want to talk about and then the studies
mobile let me know and uh... professor like her response is a mean like i hope
i can let me ask my put it up as i think it's like the reality is patriarchy
do not use business sources and they blame women and it's like period the
reality is patriarchy do not they blame women and like you know the screenshot of this
There are some classes I'll have where a professor will say something absurd and there's a student that I know knows me from YouTube and he'll look at me and I'm like, I'm not saying anything, dude.
And they'll raise their hand and they'll talk and they'll want me to like chime in.
I'm like, I don't want to do this in every class.
I'm not going to be challenging my professors.
But yeah, I really like the fact that I've encouraged so many students to, you know, step up and actually speak up and say what they believe in.
And yeah, it's just really, it's really interesting.
There was a course where one of the textbooks, I forgot, damn it, this is why school sucks because like you forget everything literally instantly.
One of the students said how it was problematic.
And before, we just kind of brushed it off.
And then another student rose their hand and said, why is it problematic?
And then looks at me, I was like, oh god.
But yeah, I really like that I've encouraged people to speak up and, you know, state what they believe.
And do more research and not just listen to everything your professor is saying.
Not just listen to anything I'm saying.
Do more research and investigate and try to find, you know, let's get closer to the truth, is basically it.
And I think a lot of this has to do with the student unions.
And again, I'm talking, I'm obviously more familiar with the Canadian context of this, but the, you know, major schools, University of Toronto, York University and Ryerson University.
I go to University of Toronto, run by Black Lives Matter.
Ryerson, Black Lives Matter, and Feminist.
York University, Black Lives Matter.
I mean, individuals that are part of the Black Lives Matter original organizations are the president, vice president, and all that of the student union.
And I was the president of the debate club for about three years—the first three years of my schooling.
And I was like, you know what would be really exciting?
To have a debate on racial issues.
I would love to.
I don't care if I'm on this side, on the other side.
That would be such a good thing, because all we're ever being fed is race.
Every corner, there's some poster about being black in U of T, which, by the way, people just realize, like, during the Trump election, we've been here for three years, no one complained, and all of a sudden, Trump is elected, it's hard to be black?
Come on.
But yeah, I went to go talk to the school presidents, and I said, I would love to have this event, all of that.
They shut me down.
They said anyone that goes in the other side, on the opposite side, is, you know, trying to question the humanity of black people.
How dare they try, and I'm sitting there like, I will be the one, like what are you talking about?
But yeah, they canceled it and shut it down, which is so sad, I was so excited for that.
So it's interesting, I know you've been pretty critical of Black Lives Matter, and I want to get into that a little bit, but the moment for me that I realized it had morphed into something that I no longer felt was positive, because at the beginning I did think it was basically a positive movement, Or a grassroots movement that was making some sense and addressing some important issues.
But the moment I realized that it jumped the shark was in Toronto, actually, at the Toronto Pride Parade, when they stopped the parade.
They literally stopped the parade from marching to demand that the organizers of the Gay Pride Parade, another oppressed group, submit to their demands, whatever their demands were, that they were going to focus on these issues.
And I thought, wow, what a perfect example of everything that's wrong with identity politics, with the oppression Olympics, the whole thing.
And then subsequently, I saw a lot more of that style of thinking happening throughout Black Lives Matter.
But was that moment for you, as someone that's from Toronto, we met in Toronto, was that a seminal moment for you?
I observed the whole thing and it was pretty peaceful.
People of color went up there and were saying things like, you know, I don't feel oppressed.
This is one of the greatest countries in the world, especially Toronto.
This is so diverse.
Everyone loves each other.
Everyone's nice to each other.
You know, the Black Lives Matter were calling them coons, they were calling them sellouts, they were yelling all these things, and I immediately knew who the aggressors were.
I immediately knew which side I did not want to be on.
I wasn't picking sides, but I was like, oh god.
I stayed till the very end, till the last person left, because this was, again, first protest.
I was excited and talking to everyone.
I got home and there were articles that were posted by the school newspaper, by Toronto Star.
about you know black people were you know to call the n_ word they were
harassed someone brought the dog someone brought dot i was actually standing next
to the person of the dogs phone apparently brought dogs to chase off the back
black people complete lies and that will put me in the eyes to like the media bias
that didn't happen not even close to being happening to happen
So it blew my mind that they would lie about that.
And then I personally messaged the leader of Black Lives Matter and said, I'm disappointed.
Girl, I was there, like, why are you doing this?
And then I decided to start making videos because I said, clearly, they're getting the wrong information.
The school literally thinks Jordan Peterson was this Nazi that came and said, I hate black people and women and transgenders and all of that.
So I just thought like, you know what?
If no one's gonna do it, I should do it.
And then I started making videos, which was weird because I had to go to school the next day and then deal with these people.
Yeah, she responded to me saying, um, I'm going to screenshot this, uh, to use against you in the future.
Why don't you say it to my face?
I still have it saved because I'm like, I, I'm going to save this for the rest of my life.
Yeah.
The, the president, like the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Toronto said she's gonna, I should say it to her face and she's going to use this against me in the future.
I mean, all I said was, I was there, this is very inappropriate, why are you telling lies, you're making black people feel like, you know, this is what actually happened, you're making students feel like, that's why students feel like they're being oppressed, because you're telling them, sorry.
No, no, what do you think these people, and I don't mean just Black Lives Matter in this case, but like this type of person at a university, whether it's from gender studies or whatever it is, with all the identity politics stuff.
That's what I don't understand is that they are obviously fakes, because if they truly care about black liberation, there are policies that you could point to that you can probably fix and help the black community.
And in Canada, one of the things was carding.
And that was actually, immediately, carding was gone in Toronto or Ontario, I'm not sure, either the province or the city.
But that's the one thing where I was like, okay, random stops, I think that's something that should be, you know, stopped and it's done in inner city neighborhoods and blah blah blah.
Apart from that, it's like, okay, what else do you want?
They want black professors.
They want police out of pride.
That's not helping black people.
That's not changing their socioeconomic status.
So what do you—what is your goal?
I really don't understand, because it's—you don't care.
I don't want to say—I mean, I do care.
I don't want to say, like, I have all the solutions.
But I can tell you what to do, but they're telling people false solutions.
They're telling them that we need all black professors to teach black people.
I think it has changed because there you can see the groups you get and when someone you know has a slightly right-wing or it's funny because I and the fact that they associate individualism and the fact
that they associate thinking for yourself with being right wing it's
like why would you want to do that it should not be
unidentified
anyways why wouldn't you want to be right wing exactly exactly like what
So you sort of view it as kind of a necessary evil that he sort of got this stuff I mean again it goes to what we were talking about earlier like some of these people get these issues out there and then hopefully some goodness comes after them.
And I think the other thing is Trump allowed people, like I said earlier, to think for themselves in a sense, to understand that maybe not everything is how it seems.
Maybe things that I'm learning is not exactly how it is.
And, you know, I may disagree with his politics because I'm a liberal in general, but I do think that, yeah, it was bound to happen, and Trump kind of shook things up and a lot more people are engaging in politics now, which is so exciting and also really scary at the same time.
I just feel like the student unions are just influencing a lot of the students, and they're influencing a lot of the events that are happening.
They claim to speak on behalf of all students, and they claim that they're fighting against racism, except they define it a different way.
I mean, who's going to go against someone that says they're fighting against racism and sexism and every other buzzword that they can throw out there?
You have to accept it.
And because they've changed the definition of racism, they've started to have events, and there was a white privilege conference, which I actually did a video on, Yeah, I wanted to go to that.
At Ryerson University, yeah.
So that's the way that they're countering it.
They're countering the facts with just, you know, alternative facts.
With their own BS, feminist studies ideas, I don't even know.
But that's, I guess, the way they're doing it.
They're trying to influence students from schools so that when they get out they can become more liberal.
So the things that Jordan talks about, when he talks about the individual, and when he talks about why the government shouldn't be able to tell you what pronouns to use, etc., etc., you see these things as all directly related to everything else that you've been talking about here.
I mean, but were you surprised at all when you saw what type of people and an interesting diverse young I think most of them I've been telling people it's about 60-40 male to female but sometimes it's even closer to 50-50.
Yeah, no, I think it's pretty diverse and I've gone to several events like political events, I guess, where I look in the crowd and I'm like, wow, there's a lot of minorities here, there's women here, there's men here, there's everyone here.
And sorry, where I blanked was the idea that you can't debate something.
That's where, that was the whole Peter, I'm like ranting here, sorry.
The whole Peter thing gets me all excited because I was there, it was so fun.
But the fact that you can't debate certain topics.
The fact that you can't debate whether or not we should use certain pronouns.
Because they say, well you're questioning my identity.
You're questioning me as a person.
My humanity.
They turn it around and make it sound like you hate that person.
And that's the thing.
It's not like I agree with Peterson or I agree with the students.
I just want to hear both sides.
That's all I'm asking for.
So then we can all make an informed conclusion.
But they don't want you to hear both sides.
They want you to hear their side, and that is the only side.
You see what happened with, like, Lindsey Shepard, as well, where she, you know, played a Peterson debate, where there are all sides, and they don't want you to hear that.
They only want you to hear their side.
And that's where—that's one thing I hate the most, just the lack of discussion.
Right, Canadians just generally... You guys, you know, we've done two shows in Toronto, and the shows were totally nice and pleasant, but like, we've gone to some other cities where, and I find it's usually in the progressive cities, So it's been in, you know, San Francisco and it's been in Seattle and a couple of the others where the crowds are the craziest, the most raucous, which is what I like the most because they kind of, they need his message.
I think we're getting to a point where we need his message.
I think it's getting a little scary, especially with Trudeau as our prime minister.
He's kind of kowtowing to a lot of the social justice warriors.
And the fact that he's even, you know, talking to Black Lives Matter Toronto, who, you know, the leader—one of the leaders said she wants to kill white men.
She tweeted that.
She wished she could kill all white men.
and the other one actually stole three hundred thousand dollars from a student
union stole it and said that she on her last day she filed her
overtime and she's filed thousands of hours of overtime and said she filed
unidentified
three hundred thousand dollars worth of overtime. It's a third of our entire
budget of our student union's budget, a third and here's the best part of it, she files that
obviously there's alerts that go off, you can't take that much money for what
what are you, your student union president? Three hundred thousand dollars? Pretty sure there aren't that many hours
in the day.
But here's the thing, she claims that the majority of those hours come from work that she does for the black community, for like Black Lives Matter.
That doesn't count.
No one is asking, that's not affiliated with the school.
No one's asking, whatever you do at home has nothing to do with that.
Anyways, the school obviously said they wanted the money back, they tried to sue her, and they started a whole campaign saying, my university is anti-black.
And then they started to put posters up, they gathered a bunch of people saying that they're only suing her because she's black.
What have you found the best arguments to get people your age to wake up to some of this stuff?
Like, I know obviously they're watching your videos, so that's like probably your prime way of doing it, but have you found simple arguments, simple phrases or whatever that you can use to get some people out of this?
How do you rub off all the stuff that they must say about you?
Because I have enough friends that are black conservatives or are kind of liberal or whatever you want to call it.
The things that I see get That gets said about them all.
Every time Larry Elder comes and does my show and I look on Twitter, the things that the supposed tolerant people, right, the progressives, the lefties, that they say about this man who I know is being authentic.
I mean, I get a lot of hate comments where, you know, they'll call me coon, they say I hate myself, I want to be white, all these different things.
The one part is like me speaking this way or speaking, I guess, I don't want to say proper English per se, but I'm trying to be white.
I'm trying to be something I'm not.
And it's like, why are you fitting people, a race and a group?
You're just allowing white people just to say, well, black people are just dumb.
Because if you say, we all act the same way and we should all think the same way, that means you can—every black person can be explained with one statement.
That's not fair.
Let us all be individuals.
In fact, you should be fighting for us to be individuals and have our own ideas.
Why are we trying to form groups?
And then, you know, they wonder why there's all these, like, white supremacist groups forming up.
Because you've already... it's a sides thing.
You said there's our side and there's your side.
So you're like, OK, sure, we'll form a group, I guess, and go against you.
But yeah, I mean, I don't... a lot of the hate comments are just useless.
I ignore the epithets, but I do try to understand a lot of the criticism.
And again, it's just not understanding where I'm coming from.
It's not, you know, getting their stats from the right place.
The Root.com or Onion is not somewhere to get your facts from.
But when I, you know, get into a detailed discussion with a lot of them, then they understand where I'm coming from, and it's like there's this light that kind of shines.
And I do that at my school a lot as well, where someone that absolutely hates me, I'll spend a whole day talking to them, and at the end I call it, like, it's really awful to use this conversion therapy.
But by the end of it, it's like their minds are blown because they just believed everything Black Lives Matter said, everything the mainstream left media have said.
So I think it's just you just got to talk to them.
Do you see this intersectionality and this combining of perceived oppressions?
Something that will just sort of crap out under its own weight.
So like, for example, if you're going to keep saying, well, black people should or this minority, whatever that minority is, should get easier entrance to this or access to this or whatever.
What you're actually saying is, well, other people are going to have to be punished based on their immutable characteristics.
We see this now.
I mean, I see a massive split happening.
with the Asian community right now in America because by every metric that we judge success,
they are succeeding at extremely high levels because of hard work and education
and commitment to family.
But if you're gonna start saying, well, we're gonna have to take less of them
because we have to take more of other people, you're actually setting these groups to hate each other.
And you're telling one group that they can't do it on their own.
And there are some studies—I forgot who wrote it, but it was called the mismatch theory, which is a lot of the minority students that are getting thrown in universities or are not qualified actually turn out worse.
When they come out, they don't get jobs because they don't have the actual skills that they needed to get in.
But yeah, it creates this kind of tension.
Why would you tell someone that, you know, they're more important just because of the color of your skin?
to piss other people off.
I don't think that's a way to move forward.
I don't think that's a way to progress.
But, yeah.
And the whole intersectionality thing, it's ridiculous.
The Pride parade, I guess, in Toronto is an example of that.
It's like, "My issues are more important."
And then, obviously, the LGBTQ community, they all hated that, and they were all very
upset with it, because it's like Pride is one of the most inclusive events in the city.
Why are you trying to ruin it and say this is a black thing?
It's an everybody thing.
We're all advocating for everyone here.
So they're just going to ruin themselves if they keep just batting each other.
The white privilege conference at Ryerson University, that's reverse segregation.
And I actually gave them the benefit of the doubt.
I'm like, I'm going to ignore the name.
I'm going to actually try to see what they're trying to teach.
And ultimately, the end, the conclusion of this event was, listen to people.
Listen to what people are saying.
So, anecdotes.
Only listen to people's feelings.
So, it's like, that's not how you form a society.
The majority were white women that were just sitting there hearing black people tell them, just listen to our stories because we know and we experience it.
And, you know, we have to have, you know, black spaces.
In fact, there is someone that tweeted during the event saying, a woman just rose her hand to speak while white-splaining.
Wait for later where we have our white corner so we can talk about, you know, What is this?
What kind of society are we preparing ourselves for?
It's literally reverse segregation, or segregation in the true sense of the word.
then, I mean, they're trying to explain it, if you're not black, then you don't experience it,
you don't understand it.
So as a white ally, you have to just take everything an activist says to you as fact, as this is what is happening.
One of the speakers actually, he did an interview for the Toronto Star and they asked him, and I was like, okay, what, where do you see white privilege in Toronto?
And he said, literally, I mean I'm paraphrasing here.
But he said, when you walk into a store, black people have to think about the fact that people are watching them.
Okay, sure.
I was like, fine, whatever.
But apparently, black people have to pay for items in one section before they can move to another section, so they don't get accused of stealing.
He got a chance to tell us what white privilege is, and that was his example of white privilege.
No, it's never happened.
I've worked retail for like the most of my life.
What, you're going to like pay in the kids section before you go to the men's section?
Like what world is this guy living in?
It blew my mind.
And another one, you know, did an article where it's how the outdoors is racist and how, you know, people feel like the, you know, skiing and hiking and everything is a white space and therefore black people don't want to go to it.
And it's like, who you're saying it, you are the one that are making these claims.
How much of the root of that is just lazy thinking?
Like, it's easy to get people ginned up about a shooting, per se, and I'm not diminishing the ones that are wrong, obviously, but it's easier to take all of the anecdotal stuff, the woman at the shopping center who this happened to, or that.
It's always easier to do that than to really be like, let's really look at the prison systems, which I would be for-looking.
I would be figuring out ways that we can do I totally agree.
education to minority communities that have been neglected, all of those things, but those things aren't really sexy,
they're not like the things that get people out on the streets for more than a day, it's the other stuff.
I mean, I can base all my arguments on anecdotes, but that doesn't, like that means nothing to me.
I can just say, oh, well, this one day—I've lived in Toronto all my life, and I've never experienced racism.
I'm not going to use that as facts.
But yeah, but it's so much easier to do so.
It's so much easier to, you know, play with the heartstrings and say, like, this is what's really happening.
But it's just—it's just sad that there are actual policies that, you know, can be changed or put in place that could actually uplift the black community.
But, you know, none of the people that claim to be the activists care.
Especially the celebrities, which really annoys me.
Beyonce and Jay-Z, all they do is talk about, you know, black rights and blah, blah, blah.
Why don't you use your billion dollars to, you know, create some rehabilitation center for people that are getting out of prison?
Why don't you try to fight for the war on drugs?
Like, it's all these things where it's, yeah, it's easy just to say, oh, look, there's a shooting, you know, this is what black people experience every day, and, you know, white people are racist, the end.
No, it's easier for them just to say, look at this anecdote and this shooting, and that's what's affecting us.
But there's so many other things that could be done.
Yeah, I think you saw a little bit of my appearance at University of New Hampshire when those kids were yelling at me, and when that one woman, who I don't think was a student, I think she was either a mother of a student or an advisor or something, when she kept saying, you know, these kids, pointing to the black kids, could get shot when they walked out of here.
She's talking about at University of New Hampshire.
And it's like, I actually, that was one of the only moments where I didn't know what to say because it was so crazy to say that.
Like, you're not going to be shot when you walk out of here.
And I was actually having a, I went to a comedy club the other day and there's this guy on stage.
He was like typical inner city black youth or whatever.
And he, After his set, he came to sit at my table, everyone was gone, and he made a comment saying, wow, it was really hard to be a black woman in this country.
So I guess I do believe in, like, lower taxes in some sense.
I do believe in the free market.
I do believe in, you know, less regulations, all that fun stuff.
But at the same time, I do think that there should be some sort of social safety net.
and uh... you know living in canada where there is you know i'm sorry
uh... free health not free health care universal health care and you know
at universal education the education system is amazing that the funding for
the education system is amazing it uh... so stuff like that where i think i'm a little bit
more liberal where i do think the government should help in some way
but it's cuz i'm used to it it's what i grew up with and i haven't really seen
anything what different works works fine
So I guess that, and I'm pro-choice, so it's stuff like that where I really do stand firm in my liberal views and ideas, and then, yeah, I'm fiscally conservative.
I'm enjoying what I'm doing now and I'm quite surprised that people even enjoy watching my videos.
It's cool to do something you love and people like it as well.
I really am having fun doing it.
And I think I would probably go into politics later in life.
I mean, I am doing political science.
It has to be useful somewhere.
I've been toying around with law, but again, I'm not sure if I really want to be in, you know, the whole... I don't know if I want to deal with law school.
And I'm starting actually a podcast with my boyfriend, which I would be uploading very soon.
You're going to have to start giving me like half of your page just because, you know, racism and stuff.
Yeah.
But I think one thing that I would actually probably like to do, which I probably will not be able to, but to do a lot of work in like inner city communities, because I I don't want to say I've lived through it, but I understand what's going on there.
I understand that, you know, there's high crime.
I understand that in some neighborhoods, the schools aren't as good.
For Canada, it's a little different, but I'd like to do some work there where I can kind of tell them, hey, I got out, and here's what I did to get out, and you can do it, too.
There's so many—there's opportunities there for you.
Like, if you were a poor minority, you know, child right now, please, just Try your hardest at school.
Get an education.
It's literally one of the greatest opportunities that you can have.
And you're more likely, I mean, you're probably not 100% great, but you're more likely to be successful if you get an education.
And that's the one thing a lot of black people are lacking, is the education component.
And we don't really have the war on drugs and everything.
So it really is weird for me that in inner cities of Toronto, where there's still this
very high crime, there's still this tension.
But have you ever heard of the Woodson Center, by any chance?
It's a non-profit organization.
It's located in D.C., but I've been working with them for some time, and they basically do the same thing.
They go out to these neighborhoods and they help students, and they have such a good success rate.
They help them in high school, because that's the other thing, is that a lot of black kids are not even graduating high school.
Of course they're going to go into crime if you're not even graduating high school.
So yeah, they work with a lot of students there.
They, you know, have rehabilitation centers.
They help, you know, black Sorry, Black Americans Reintegrate Into Society.
Like, it's stuff like that where it's these grassroots movements that I would really like to do.
And I know it's a big dream, but I think that's where I'll probably be happiest, is where I can show people how it's done and help them.
And hopefully everyone can copy that and say, oh, this is what we're supposed to do, and all that.
Awesome, I love it and I have no doubt that you're gonna do it and you guys can follow this future member of Canadian Parliament on her YouTube channel right here.