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All right, what's up, people? | ||
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Oh, Lord, today is the day. | |
Everything that we have been talking about for the last 27 to 45 years leads up to right now, this very moment. | ||
It's hard to believe it's actually here. | ||
People are going completely bonkers. | ||
The last couple of days, I mean, this whole thing, this whole two years of this thing have been completely crazy. | ||
And it's led up to this, and it's really hard to believe it's here. | ||
I voted. | ||
If you want proof that I voted, I took a picture. | ||
I got the sticker. | ||
Here's my sticker. | ||
They even saved my sticker for me. | ||
So I voted earlier today. | ||
I'll talk a little bit more about my choice and sort of the nature of talking about my choice and that in a little bit. | ||
Some things, some polls are rolling in at the moment. | ||
I do have CNN on the big screen in front of me, but we'll be flipping around and making fun of the nonsensical cable news lunacy throughout the night. | ||
I'll give you my general feelings on what's happening. | ||
I have Team Rubin report here. | ||
By the way, should tell you guys, we are in the new house, the studio, the new home studio, which I've been meeting with contractors all week. | ||
I've had a crazy week. | ||
So it's election week. | ||
It's literally the most important week in terms of current events and politics and news and everything I talk about. | ||
We ended up moving the same week because it got delayed a little bit. | ||
I didn't have internet for the last week until today, so I've done everything off my phone for the last week. | ||
Didn't have television. | ||
And we've got contractors here and electricians and lighting people. | ||
We're going to build an awesome studio, and it's thanks to all of you who jumped in on Patreon and PayPal, so I thank you guys. | ||
So I'm very excited about all that stuff, but tonight's all about the election. | ||
CNN right now is showing that Georgia, Virginia, and South Carolina are too early to call. | ||
A couple early states, Indiana and I think Kentucky, Went to Trump. | ||
Vermont went to Clinton already. | ||
But here's what we're gonna do. | ||
I got Amir and David with me. | ||
We'll do a Ask Me Anything so we can talk election. | ||
We can talk about my thoughts on everything. | ||
I don't know if some of you guys probably saw, I was on Joe Rogan yesterday where we do three hours, we did three and a half hours of non-stop election and philosophy and all kinds of stuff, but really shared my thoughts again on what You know, sort of went down with Gary Johnson and Trump stuff and Hillary stuff. | ||
People, I have to say, before we get into questions and stuff like that, by the way, we do know that there is some sort of issue with our feed. | ||
YouTube has told us there's some sort of bug on our channel. | ||
They won't tell us. | ||
why or how or anything like that, but there is some sort of bug on our channel and | ||
because of that Our videos aren't going out to our full feed | ||
So if you can click like on this and share it to your feed or post it on Twitter or Facebook | ||
Whatever it'll help drive some people here. By the way, if I keep looking up every now and again, it's because | ||
It's because I got the guys the guy the guy and gal are waving to me over here | ||
But also I got the TV over here and David's giving me a big signal here | ||
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There yeah We're shooting in Azusa station that's on West all our east | |
LA so So there was a shooting apparently at a polling station. | ||
Jesus. | ||
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All right. | |
So there was apparently a shooting in East LA, which isn't too far from where we are. | ||
So I don't, oh, sorry. | ||
East of LA. | ||
So I'm not sure how that's going to affect everything, but it's not up on CNN yet. | ||
CNN right now is showing some early Florida things, which have Trump in a way, way lead. | ||
But you know, a lot of that's hard to tell because if they poll certain parts first, or if the results are coming in from heavily Republican areas first, then it doesn't necessarily mean anything. | ||
Anyway, it's going to be a wacky night, and I think for all of you that voted, and I hope that those of you in the United States, I do hope you voted, Um, you know, for those of you that did vote, it was so interesting going there because you could feel there was like this palpable feeling of like, I voted, you know, probably every year since, since I was able to vote. | ||
So it's almost, it's almost 20 years at this point, which is kind of scary. | ||
Um, but there was a real feeling there of like something different this time. | ||
Like things were really, I voted in West Hollywood, which is where I used to live before I moved now. | ||
And it's a very, very democratic heavy area, a lot of gay people, a lot of young families, whatever. | ||
So most of the people I sense were voting for Hillary. | ||
And actually RuPaul, not Ron Paul or Rand Paul, but RuPaul actually walked out of the polling station | ||
as I was walking in. | ||
Does that tell you a little bit about the neighborhood that I was in? | ||
But anyway, one guy walked out screaming, I voted for Trump, make America great again, make America great again. | ||
And there's just like this feeling, like this feels like a different election. | ||
Something really feels different this time. | ||
I think regardless of who wins, America is changed forever after this. | ||
I think our system is changed after. | ||
I think the way we go back and forth with each other and talk about things has changed. | ||
I think our You know, the big thing that I think lately is that, you know, our online media and our mainstream media—mainstream was always way ahead. | ||
It's crumbling fast, and online media is growing. | ||
Later tonight, I'll be jumping over, after two hours with you guys, I'm going to jump over on Steven Crowder's channel, and he's doing great stuff, even though I disagree with him. | ||
on politically on some stuff and zippity-damn-do-dah. | ||
That's the way it's supposed to be. | ||
And then after that, I'm heading over to Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire studio, | ||
and I think a couple other people, I think Glenn Beck's gonna be there, | ||
and a couple other people, and I'll jump on with them. | ||
All right, cool, so-- | ||
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On that note, do you wanna break down your schedule, so the exact times? | |
Let's do that. | ||
Thank you, Amira. | ||
On that note, the exact times for my schedule tonight. | ||
So I'm here with you guys for the next two hours till nine o'clock Eastern time. | ||
There's a chance, I guess a slim chance maybe, that it'll be called by then. | ||
I don't think so, though. | ||
I think it usually gets called by around... No, definitely not then. | ||
Okay, so my guess is it usually ends around 11 Eastern is when they officially call it. | ||
But, you know, this year it's like who the hell knows what's gonna happen at this point, right? | ||
And by the way, to my point earlier about when they can't get too much of early, when they only have 2% precincts in, now I see Clinton as a lead inquirer. | ||
So, you know, it's a horse race and it's sort of like watching sports tonight. | ||
Anyway, two hours with you guys here until 9 o'clock, then immediately I'll be on Crowder's channel on Skype for a half hour and then I'm gonna run over to Shapiro's studio and I'll be there till the duration. | ||
You know, if the world ends tonight, I guess I'll be with Ben Shapiro. | ||
Anyway, the beautiful thing is that what has become very clear to me, in the last year especially, is that the things that I'm talking about on this show, about the ideas of classical liberalism, and really understanding what the role of government is, and why we're not voting for a king or a queen, and that the president shouldn't solve all your problems. | ||
And by the way, the president was only a third of the government, you know, as I talked about on Rogan yesterday. | ||
We got three branches of government, we seem to only talk about one. | ||
Which is pretty unfortunate. | ||
But, you know, this idea of just, like, hearing some ideas that you're not comfortable with, talking to people that might be a little out of your comfort zone, and not demonizing everyone that's different. | ||
So you guys know how I feel about all that stuff. | ||
So I'll take some questions. | ||
Let's talk about the election. | ||
Again, I'll share more about my thought process on everything and Gary Johnson and everything else. | ||
So Amir, if you've got something for me, go ahead. | ||
By the way, I'm drinking an IPA tonight. | ||
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Uh, so what are your thoughts on Prop 64, which is medical marijuana? | |
is medical marijuana. | ||
So Prop 64, which is medical marijuana here in California, I did vote for Prop 64. | ||
Yeah, well I think it's not for medical marijuana. | ||
I think it's to legalize-- | ||
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Are you gonna legalize marijuana? | |
Yeah, so it's to legalize marijuana. | ||
Medical marijuana is legal here. | ||
I do have a marijuana card, as I've said many times. | ||
I don't even smoke that often. | ||
I smoke maybe once every two weeks or so. | ||
I smoke indica, so there's two types of weed. | ||
There's sativa, Which is sort of make you think, and that's sort of where people go paranoid and whatever. | ||
But I know a lot of my comic friends especially, and a lot of creative types like that, because it gets their brain going. | ||
I like Indica's, which are just chill you out. | ||
I take a little puff, I lay on the couch, I watch The Simpsons, and that's it. | ||
Listen, as far as the medical part, which is legal here as I just said, The medical part, it would be an insane thing. | ||
Can you imagine if somebody that you knew or you yourself were sick, you had Parkinson's or cancer or AIDS or just any other disease or any, you busted up your knee and you were in pain and you didn't want to take prescription medication. | ||
If there was this leaf that grows naturally that you could grow in your backyard, and that you could smoke it and it would make you feel | ||
better, maybe bring your appetite back from other medications you're | ||
on that cause you to have no appetite, etc, etc, etc. | ||
If you can do any, whatever you could do to help your own body, your own health. | ||
What right does the government have to not allow you to do that? | ||
So that's on the medicinal front. | ||
Now on the legalization front altogether, which is what we're talking about here with this proposition, I'm for it too. | ||
I'm for it too. | ||
Look, people drink beer. | ||
People smoke cigarettes. | ||
Cigarettes are deadly. | ||
Everyone knows it. | ||
We read the warning on the package. | ||
Alcoholism. | ||
Millions of people die of alcoholism a year. | ||
You know, from cirrhosis of the liver to All sorts of other helpings to car crashes and everything else. | ||
No one dies because of weed. | ||
No one dies because of weed. | ||
That doesn't mean people can't abuse weed and become potheads. | ||
There were probably two years in my life where I was too much of a pothead. | ||
Interesting year. | ||
Now Trump just jumped in the front in Florida. | ||
So Florida's gonna be really interesting tonight. | ||
So mark my words early on on that, Florida. | ||
Anyway, so obviously I'm for the legalization of marijuana. | ||
I think it's good for the economy. | ||
I think the idea of putting people in jail for something they do recreationally is ridiculous. | ||
And all of us have vices and the idea that somehow alcohol is less of a vice or something than marijuana or cigarettes, it's just silly. | ||
It's just silly and childish. | ||
Trump's winning in Virginia very early on too, which is interesting. | ||
So that's how I feel about that. | ||
By the way, guys, we're going to give preferential treatment because I know there's a lot of questions flying in. | ||
So if you are on Patreon and you're watching this and you're a patron, you're one of the 3,000 people, by the way, it's over 3,000 now, that you guys fund this show and you allow me to remain independent and I don't have anyone to answer to except myself and I'm beholden to basically you guys and my dog and that's a pretty beautiful thing. | ||
So we are giving preferential treatment on the question front. | ||
To anyone on Patreon, so you can just comment in the Patreon feed. | ||
It's patreon.com slash ReubenReport if you want to jump in on that. | ||
Amira! | ||
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Someone says, I'm torn. | |
Do I watch Dave Love or Sark online? | ||
I'm torn. | ||
Do I watch Dave Live or Sargon Live? | ||
I love Sargon. | ||
I think Carl's a great guy. | ||
He's gotten a little shit. | ||
Carl and I are both, I think he considers himself a classical liberal. | ||
We agree on most stuff. | ||
He's been on my show. | ||
If you haven't seen it, it was early on, over a year ago. | ||
I think he's a very good guy. | ||
He's gotten a lot of shit because he's been calling out a lot of the Hillary nonsense. | ||
And I don't think he, well, first off, he's not an American, but I don't think he's outright supporting Trump. | ||
I could be wrong. | ||
But I have seen a lot of that, a lot of people, a lot of liberals that are just angry at the bullshit and that are defecting to Trump. | ||
I mean, I've talked about this before, but when I went to that Milo event at UCLA where Milo and I did a little talk, I talked to all these kids, I'm talking smart college kids, you know, at UCLA, not an easy school to get into, that were saying, I'm liberal and I'm voting for Trump because I'm sick of the political correctness, I'm sick of Uh, the language stuff and I realize the system's broken and all that stuff. | ||
So, uh, that's why I think the polls in this year particularly, I think the polls mean very, very little because I think there's a whole new group of people voting. | ||
And, um, you know, I just think nobody has a freaking clue what's going to happen tonight. | ||
I really, really believe that. | ||
All the pollsters, all everybody. | ||
Um, I think, I think that's the general feeling. | ||
Uh, on CNN right now, they're, they have a thing on the bottom. | ||
says that a senior Trump advisor said, "It will take a miracle for us to win." | ||
And again, this is all playing the media because now if he starts pulling ahead at an hour | ||
from now, then they go, "Ah, see, now it's a miracle." | ||
It even feels bigger. | ||
And a lot of that goes to some of the stuff that Scott Adams talked about on the show, | ||
about how Trump has used television, has used media to further his message. | ||
So he didn't have to spend a lot. | ||
Hillary spent a lot more, but Trump kept his name in the thing. | ||
I'm going to down some pizza while we're talking about this, by the way, because I've been | ||
running around all day and I'm absolutely starving. | ||
Anyway, reminder, just share this thing if you can, because we know the video is not | ||
going out to all our feed. | ||
And Amira, what do you got? | ||
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What kind of show are you watching now and who are you most looking forward to to hear | |
So I'm going to go ahead and share my screen now. | ||
their commentary? | ||
I'm going to share my screen now. | ||
So right now I'm watching CNN, but we'll be flicking around throughout the night. | ||
But you know, really, this is what I said earlier, but it's become so obvious now. | ||
This CNN, Fox, MSNBC, it's becoming meaningless. | ||
It really is becoming meaningless. | ||
Even if you watch network news tonight, you don't really know those people. | ||
You don't really know what drives them or anything like that. | ||
And for the people that are online that are doing this, You know, for example, two of the guys that I'm going to be on with tonight, Crowder and Shapiro, and for many, many other people, that you get to really know our feelings on a day-to-day basis, and that we're not that close to it. | ||
The biggest problem we have right now, really, between the media and politicians, is that they've gotten so close, they party together, they are married to people, they've got people whose kids are on networks and campaigns, Man, Jake Tapper looks beat. | ||
Look at him. | ||
Poor Jake. | ||
Jake, he's one of the, you guys know, he's one of the guys I like on CNN. | ||
He really looks like this has taken a toll on him. | ||
I really do like him though. | ||
So interesting, Virginia and Georgia are too close to call and Florida is still super close. | ||
I'll try not to do too much rat race stuff with you guys because you get that anywhere else. | ||
What kind of pizza are you eating? | ||
Tonight it's just, we were in a rush getting back here because I As I said, I had to go pretty far to vote, so I was running late. | ||
So I just got two, like, frozen pizzas from Trader Joe's. | ||
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People are reminding you to take your time when you eat. | |
Nope. | ||
Wouldn't that be fitting? | ||
Like, a fitting way to end the whole thing? | ||
Like, if I choked to death on a live stream on Trader Joe's pizza? | ||
Like, that would That would be it. | ||
That would be the way to end it. | ||
Hopefully that does not happen tonight. | ||
Alright, what else we got? | ||
How deep do I make my bomb shelter, and what do I use to reinforce it? | ||
Well, I would recommend you go check out the Alex Jones Channel, because I'm sure they're telling you how to prep. | ||
Look, the most important thing is that our system is pretty strong. | ||
We have had, from every president to the next, pretty much, we've had an easy succession of power. | ||
I mean, think about George W. Bush and Barack Obama, right? | ||
Obama hugely ran on what an evil motherfucker George Bush was, basically. | ||
And at the end of it, even though George W. Bush was a two-term president, he stepped aside, Obama took power, okay? | ||
So we have had a transition of power, and different people get into power, and that's why checks and balances are so important. | ||
That's why if you don't like, if your guy doesn't win tonight, or girl doesn't win tonight, Then you've got to vote for your local Congress people. | ||
You've got to vote for your Senators. | ||
Those are the people that will keep the Executive Office, the President, in check. | ||
So you've got to keep voting for all those things. | ||
And by the way, that, for as depressed as everybody is, and a lot of people come up to me and a lot of people email me and tweet me and whatever, they say, this is so depressing, I hate this, I don't want to talk about this anymore, I don't want to vote, blah blah blah. | ||
The one good thing that's happening here, okay, even if you hate both of them, is that people are into this. | ||
And the reason we got to this point with these two candidates is because people have been dulled down and we let other people make the decisions in our lives for us. | ||
I have, in the last year, me alone, I've had an evolution in thinking. | ||
There are people waking up and realizing that the freedoms that we have in the United States, which are amazing, which virtually everyone in the world would trade for us. | ||
We complain about how bad everything is here, but we're not going anywhere. | ||
Nobody wants to leave the United States. | ||
I think Lena Dunham's leaving to go to Canada if Hillary wins, which kind of, Trump wins, which kind of makes me want to vote for Trump. | ||
But the point is that Because it's so good here, we take it for granted. | ||
But I think this election has gotten everyone so whacked out that maybe, maybe, just maybe, people will stay more engaged this time. | ||
Maybe, just maybe. | ||
You know, as I look at this and Gary Johnson's at 1.8% in Georgia. | ||
It's like, forget Gary Johnson. | ||
You guys know my feelings about Gary. | ||
I've been very clear on this. | ||
I wanted to get him to 15%. | ||
I would love to get some libertarian ideas out there in the ether. | ||
I don't think he was a particularly good representative of that, even though I think he's an extremely nice guy and I've had him on the show and I chatted with him for a half hour privately and he was really nice. | ||
But stay engaged so that it doesn't get to the next Hillary and Trump. | ||
Stay engaged because otherwise no one good will ever run for president. | ||
We will only get deeply corrupt, narcissistic, immoral people. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
People say to me, you want to run for president. | ||
Why don't you run for president in 2020? | ||
And it's like, I studied politics. | ||
I have some sense of what I'm doing and what I know what I'm talking about. | ||
It's like, I would never want to do it because the system is so screwy and the shit they would dredge up. | ||
And like, so we need to we need to be better. | ||
We need to be better. | ||
You know, it's like you got to look in the mirror. | ||
We all need to be better, to demand that these motherfuckers be better. | ||
Because the news isn't going to just magically be better for us. | ||
We've got to make them better. | ||
And you guys, by the way, you are way on the front of this. | ||
For those of you that get your news online, and you go to people like Rogan or Crowder or Shapiro or any of these people, Or any of the left-wing ones. | ||
For any of you that do that, you're already ahead because the game is changing. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
What we're doing right now is becoming more powerful than this nonsense. | ||
They're going to have to fight back on that, and they're not going to let up easy. | ||
And believe me, they have way more money and resources and power than we do. | ||
But the game has just begun, and we're just at the beginning. | ||
It's like, I feel like I've been doing this for a long time now, but we're just back at the beginning. | ||
And we gotta keep fighting. | ||
All right, David, what do you got? | ||
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This is Richard from Patreon. | |
What would you like to see in the next four years if Clinton wins and the same for Trump? | ||
All right. | ||
What would I like to see? | ||
Pardon the chewing, guys. | ||
What would I like to see if Clinton wins and if Trump wins? | ||
All right, so if Clinton wins, I'll start with that one first | ||
'cause that one's more likely. | ||
If Clinton, so interesting, North Carolina and Ohio both too early to call. | ||
This is gonna be a long night, folks. | ||
We got a long night ahead of us. | ||
Look, if Clinton wins, there's some interesting things that will happen | ||
because the progressives who are all about Bernie, they hate Hillary, but they're all backing her pretty much. | ||
So you would imagine that once she's in, because they hated Trump where they hated her, | ||
so they all backed her. | ||
So you would imagine that once she's in, they will put the pressure on her to be more progressive. | ||
Now, I would argue that at this point, she beat them. | ||
She beat Bernie into a pulp. | ||
Bernie got a lake house in Vermont, and that's that. | ||
I don't think she's gonna feel like she owes them anything, but I think the left will put a certain amount of pressure on her. | ||
At that point, what does she have to, what would, she has four years at least, so why does she have to placate them? | ||
I don't know, because I do think she's more of a moderate, basically. | ||
Oh, and then just basically, I do think Hillary would try to work with some conservatives, sort of the more mainstream conservatives, Paul Ryan, some of those guys, than maybe Obama did. | ||
I do think she would be a little more in politics. | ||
A lot of people say that Obama wasn't that interested in the negotiating part of politics, he likes the public part. | ||
I think she is into the political part. | ||
You may not like her decisions, she's made some terrible decisions, but I do think there's a chance she could get some bipartisan stuff to happen. | ||
Wow, Florida is unbelievable right now. | ||
It's 48.9, 48.2 to Trump, with almost two million votes on each side. | ||
That's gonna be wild tonight. | ||
So if Trump wins, Look, if you hate Trump, the silver lining to a Trump presidency is that the media, which has done such a shitty fucking job, you know, I dropped my F-bombs pretty sparingly, but they've done such a terrible job for these last eight years, they've led to the rise of Trump in a lot of respects, that | ||
I think the media would suddenly realize that power, the president, is their enemy, where they wanted to be buddy-buddies with Obama. | ||
They wanted to give him softball interviews. | ||
They wanted to go to all the parties with him and all that stuff. | ||
Well, they hate Trump, and Trump doesn't like them. | ||
But that's what we need, is an adversarial attitude between the media and the politicians. | ||
So in a weird way, the silver lining to a Trump presidency, if you hate Trump, is that it could save the fourth estate. | ||
It could save the media. | ||
In a weird way. | ||
Now, I would argue that the media is dead either way. | ||
It's a dying dinosaur, as the meteors come in either way, because online is here to stay, unless they shut down the internet altogether, which I'm sure they have plans for. | ||
But, so that's kind of where we're at. | ||
All right, what do we got here? | ||
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Oh, oh, any candidate can see quietly. | |
Will either candidate concede quietly? | ||
I think the only way that either one concedes quietly is if it ends up being a landslide. | ||
Like if something happens where a couple of the swing states, you know, if Ohio, Florida, Colorado, a couple of the others really go early, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen, then you have to concede early. | ||
I will say this. | ||
Hillary, if you look at Hillary's stage that she's supposed to speak from tonight, it looks pretty grandiose and over-the-top and huge. | ||
Trump's does look much more subdued, which would imply that seems a little bit more like a concession stage than a winning stage, but you never know. | ||
You just never know. | ||
So we'll see what happens. | ||
But I would say if it's close, look, Both of them. | ||
For all the people that keep saying, you know, Trump's not going to concede and blah blah blah. | ||
If it's close, I don't see why Hillary would either. | ||
But that's what I'm talking about. | ||
You either believe in the system or you don't. | ||
And if the system says this is what happened, then you have to believe it unless you have evidence. | ||
Real evidence that something shady went down, as I love to quote Carl Sagan, with extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. | ||
So if you have real vote rigging, I'm not talking about the shady shit that the DNC did with Project Birdhouse, which is absolutely shady. | ||
The DNC and what they did to Bernie, they've done shadier shit than the Republicans this time around. | ||
That's just a fact, unless you guys know something that I don't. | ||
But doing shady shit is different than actually rigging an election. | ||
But if you guys have evidence of that, I've seen some things on Twitter today where people were pushing things and certain, you know, Trump wasn't coming up or whatever it is. | ||
So we'll see. | ||
Alright, what do we got, guys? | ||
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You can chew. | |
Everyone's concerned that you're not chewing. | ||
We're very concerned about the chewing. | ||
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You know what? | |
I will say something. | ||
I really, I say this sometimes, and I really, genuinely, genuinely mean it. | ||
Everything I say here, I mean. | ||
But I really do mean it that I really think we have the best commenters on all of YouTube. | ||
The fact that you guys were worried, am I chilling enough? | ||
I always say how we look at our videos, and of course, you get a certain amount of trolling, a certain amount of people just shitposting and all that, and that's all well and good. | ||
You know I have no problem with that. | ||
But so much of it is on point about the topics that we're talking about and debating back and forth, and that's so rare on YouTube. | ||
Go to any of the other channels. | ||
Go to the channel that I used to work for. | ||
I mean, you can see what's going on over there. | ||
It's a disaster. | ||
And we have something so good here. | ||
The fact that you guys even care the slightest that I'm chewing fast enough, or I'm chewing slow enough, that's a beautiful thing. | ||
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What was the question beyond my chewing? | |
What cabinet position is Donald Russell going to get? | ||
Probably kidding, but at the same time, probably not. | ||
What cabinet position is Donna Brazile going to get? So for those of you that don't know the | ||
Donna Brazile story, Donna Brazile is a Democratic superdelegate. | ||
That means she was one of the people that could have overridden the vote basically or swung | ||
the electoral process either way for Bernie or for Hillary. | ||
She was obviously in the bag for Hillary. | ||
She's also been a CNN contributor all these years. | ||
I've been talking about this for years. | ||
Not to say I told you so, but literally, you can find tweets of mine from 2011 of me talking about how it was such a bad idea to have someone like Donna Brazile on CNN. | ||
A Democratic super delegate pretending to give analysis. | ||
And by the way, We know that they do this with all these people. | ||
Right now on CNN. | ||
I'm sure he'll be on tonight. | ||
Paul Begala. | ||
What is Paul Begala? | ||
Well, he's a consultant for a Hillary super PAC. | ||
They have David Axelrod, who ran Obama's campaign. | ||
You think he's for Hillary or Trump? | ||
I have no idea, right? | ||
Like, all of these people. | ||
And by the way, it goes on the other side. | ||
You've got Corey Lewandowski, who was a campaign guy for Trump. | ||
Still on the payroll because of the separation agreement. | ||
Like, these people aren't analysts. | ||
They're basically, like, just pushing their own view to profit themselves. | ||
So Donna Brazile, It was found out that, so she was a DNC delegate working for CNN. | ||
She fed the Hillary campaign debate questions. | ||
That's a fact. | ||
She doesn't even deny it, really. | ||
And then what happens? | ||
Well, when the DNC got caught, you know, rigging the election against Bernie, they had Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was the head of the DNC, step down. | ||
And then who took over? | ||
Donna fucking Brazil! | ||
Like, you can't make this shit up. | ||
And where did Debbie Wasserman Schultz go to work? | ||
The Hillary campaign. | ||
So, I know people get upset when I mention that, and they say, oh, you're being too rough on Hillary, you're being too rough on Hillary, but these are just facts. | ||
These are just facts. | ||
So what cabinet position does Donna Brazile want? | ||
I hope she wants retirement, actually, because we don't need more people like her doing this. | ||
This is the exact shit, or the type of shit that she did with the DNC and the collusion with media is the exact stuff that led to the rise of Trump. | ||
So if she thinks that what she's doing is helping the Democrats, it's actually helping the Republicans. | ||
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Dave, what are your thoughts on the media and celebrities telling people how to vote? | |
Do you think they are helping the country by encouraging them to vote for a certain candidate, or do you think they are abusing them? | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Basically, what do I think about celebrities encouraging people to vote? | ||
You know, it's so interesting. | ||
The last couple days, Hillary busted out everybody, right? | ||
She had Lady Gaga. | ||
She had Bruce Springsteen. | ||
Who else did she have? | ||
Who? | ||
She had Beyonce. | ||
Madonna did a concert. | ||
Like, they're busting out everybody. | ||
And it's like, first off, does anyone actually vote? | ||
Like, was anyone on the fence in the last three days and suddenly was like, You know what? | ||
Bruce Springsteen's voting for Hillary. | ||
I'm voting for Hillary. | ||
Like, nobody. | ||
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Nobody. | |
Lady Gaga? | ||
I didn't know which way she was gonna vote. | ||
Lady Gaga, by the way, can someone pull up the image? | ||
She dressed like a fucking Nazi last night. | ||
Did you see it? | ||
She looked like she was in an SS uniform. | ||
She had the red armband and the whole thing. | ||
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Pull up an SS... Well, it looked like a Nazi uniform. | |
Anyway... She looks like a futuristic Nazi. | ||
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There you go. | |
(laughing) | ||
Go. | ||
She looks like a futuristic Nazi. | ||
Oh, there you go. | ||
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It looks totally Michael Jackson. | |
Oh, she does look like a Nazi. | ||
A, I don't think it matters. | ||
I really don't think it matters. | ||
There might be some more politically savvy celebrities that get people to change their vote. | ||
So a guy like George Clooney, whether you agree with him or not, I do think he has a command of the issues that he cares about. | ||
And I think some people might say, they might listen to him more on certain ideas. | ||
Yeah, that looks like a futuristic Nazi uniform. | ||
But basically, like, no one is voting on something because of what Lady Gaga says, or even Bruce Springsteen, or Beyoncé, or anything else. | ||
So, Hillary got all the major players, right? | ||
Hillary gets fights on, what's her name, Katy Perry. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
That's not Katy Perry. | ||
Oh, that girl? | ||
Oh, that's that girl. | ||
She does have Katy Perry. | ||
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Katy Perry's been on, like, the road, though, right? | |
Right, Katy Perry's been on the road with it. | ||
I mean, she gets all these people, and it makes it feel cool, and I guess that's what they're going for with young people. | ||
They just want it to feel cool. | ||
But the job of the president and running the government isn't saying about cool. | ||
I would love to have a dorky president who couldn't dance, who was socially awkward, but could get shit done. | ||
And I don't know that the celebrity thing, it feels kind of gross, actually. | ||
Like, it just feels sort of... | ||
People are loving the new couch. | ||
These are all the people in power. | ||
These are the same people who go to all the parties and go, you know, are in it. | ||
They're all in it together in a way, protecting their own thing. | ||
And I don't know, like if anything, that proves some of this elitist stuff, right? | ||
So I don't think it makes anybody vote for them, really. | ||
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People are loving the new couch. | |
Where is it from? | ||
Oh, I'm so happy to hear that, everybody. | ||
They're loving the new couch. | ||
They say Ruben's Couch 2020. | ||
Ruben's Couch 2020. | ||
Yeah, that's good. | ||
So you guys know, so I've been on IKEA furniture my whole adult life. | ||
I'm 40 years old. | ||
I mean, I'm not kidding. | ||
Since I've been out of college, I've been on IKEA couches. | ||
Finally, when we made this move, I decided to do something nuts and get a new couch. | ||
I got this from a place called Scandinavian Designs. | ||
I don't know if it's, I think there's a couple stores in Cali. | ||
I don't know if they're elsewhere. | ||
They are. | ||
Check it out at ScandinavianDesigns.com. | ||
I'm not getting sponsored by them or anything. | ||
This couch is incredibly comfortable. | ||
And it's big. | ||
Did you know there's cushions in couches? | ||
I've been on Ikea so long I didn't even know that anymore. | ||
So I'm glad that you guys are appreciating that. | ||
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Another one for Patreon here. | |
How do you think the rest of the world will see us if we elect Clinton versus if we elect Trump? | ||
That's a good one. | ||
How will the rest of the world see us if we vote Clinton versus if we vote Trump? | ||
You know, look, on one hand, we shouldn't care that much what the rest of the world thinks. | ||
You know, it's like if your family was having problems, you've got to deal with it internally with your family, not worry about what everyone thinks of your family. | ||
So I do think it's a little... | ||
It's a little bit of a slippery slope when you start worrying about what everyone else thinks, and also what everyone else thinks. | ||
Look, what the people in Saudi Arabia think is very different than what the people in Paris think and all that kind of stuff. | ||
So, I think if Hillary wins, the basic feeling, and again, this is hard to judge because everyone has different political beliefs, the basic feeling will be like it's sort of status quo, right? | ||
We got Obama, now Obama wants Hillary, so you just keep going this way. | ||
If Trump goes, it really is a signal of something really flipping, that there's really something afoot here, that something is really different. | ||
You may like what's happening or may not like it, but it would be more along the lines of what happened with Brexit. | ||
And if you haven't had a chance, I highly recommend check out my interview last week with Steve Davies, a professor at the London School of Economics, talking about Brexit and why it happened and the parallels to the Trump thing. | ||
Um, but basically this feeling that these outsiders, these people outside of the system want, uh, finally got involved and they actually did flip it. | ||
So, uh, what will the world think? | ||
I don't know that it matters that much. | ||
What matters ultimately is how the president leads the country. | ||
And, you know, for all of the people, you know, look, Obama is thought of not, you know, a lot of the people on the left think that George W. Bush was a warmonger. | ||
Right? | ||
Obama's been droning all over Pakistan and Afghanistan, and I'm not saying he's a warmonger, but the thing is, it seems to me that once you pick a side, once you say, I'm all Democrat, I'm all Republican, and that's what everyone's doing more and more and more, but you guys, which I think is the new thing, I think what we're creating here and what a few other online people are creating is the new thing, are starting to go, wait a minute, Picking either one of these teams is idiotic. | ||
It doesn't make any sense. | ||
It has nothing to do with how this should be run. | ||
We're not talking about principles and philosophy behind why you do things. | ||
We're just talking about the day-to-day minutiae of the nonsense that makes you do it. | ||
So, interestingly, Trump's taken about a two-point lead in Florida, which is kind of interesting. | ||
For all of us, you have to vote your conscience, that's a slight segue there, but you have to vote your conscience and worry about your stuff more than anything. | ||
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How does a classic liberal not support Clinton? | |
How does a classic liberal not support Clinton? | ||
Now first, I guess this is a good time to mention sort of my voting thoughts, my personal voting thoughts. | ||
You guys know, as I said earlier, I wanted Gary Johnson to get to 15%. | ||
I wanted some libertarian ideas. | ||
Libertarianism and classical liberalism are very close. | ||
Libertarians veer more on the side of no government than classical liberals. | ||
If you want to get a really great breakdown of that, again, check out my interview with Steve Davies. | ||
We really got into it. | ||
I think he really explains it brilliantly well. | ||
I think he considers himself a classical liberal. | ||
Look, a classical liberal, you're basing your decisions and your political philosophy is based on liberty | ||
and individual rights and the right to pursue freedom and free speech and all of that. | ||
So it's about the individual, not the collective. | ||
Now, the difference between that and libertarianism is that libertarianism really, really wants to scale back | ||
government in a bigger way. | ||
Now, classical liberalism doesn't want big government, but does acknowledge there's a role of government | ||
where libertarians often, they don't want driver's licenses or they, you know, it's much more of a mixed match | ||
of is it anarchy or what is it? | ||
So classical liberalism, by basing my political philosophy and thoughts on logic and reason and evidence and on the individual, that it's your life. | ||
I don't want to tell you how to live your life and I hope you don't want to tell me how to live mine. | ||
We have to live in a society that can operate for both of us, where you can believe whatever you want. | ||
If you want to be a believer in religion or whatever, that's great. | ||
And if you don't, that's great. | ||
But we have to have basic things based in logic and reason in a secular society to move forward. | ||
So the question was, how would a classical liberal not vote for Hillary? | ||
Well, I'll pause there and just tell you kind of where I'm at with the voting thing. | ||
So look, that's what I wanted was for Gary to get there, and then of course it was going to crumble, but some ideas would have got out there. | ||
My feeling on saying who I voted for, and who knows where we'll be at in four hours, maybe I'll change my... | ||
Change my opinion. | ||
But I did vote today. | ||
And my feeling, basically, is that for me to share that with you, look, I hold nothing back from you guys. | ||
I don't ask them to edit any questions. | ||
I respond to you guys on Twitter. | ||
All that stuff. | ||
You guys know as much about my thinking as I know, really. | ||
But my hope is that this show grows and grows and grows. | ||
And we know that it is. | ||
We know what's happening here with the numbers and the growth and all that. | ||
And we're scaling it and we're working on some other business things and all that. | ||
My hope is that I'm able to get Trump or Clinton or whoever else appears next. | ||
And if I was to tell you right now, well, I'm supporting this one or I'm supporting that one, A, it doesn't move the dial in any real way. | ||
But it does then color how I would be seen by the public related to interviewing these people. | ||
And I promise you that when, not if, but when I get either of them, Or both of them. | ||
I will hold their feet to the fire equally, regardless of which one of them's president and which one of them's the loser. | ||
And I think that's more important for my personal role, rather than for me to just say what I did, and that, you know, people can then read it either way or whatever. | ||
So that's my opinion, but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on that, if you don't agree with my opinion. | ||
But that's my opinion, at least as of now, 7.47pm Eastern, on Election Day. | ||
So there you go. | ||
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Haley. | |
Elon Musk said that he doesn't care about the results of this election because the president doesn't have a lot of power. | ||
What do you think about that statement? | ||
Somebody said that they don't care about the... | ||
Elon Musk, really? | ||
So Elon Musk said that he doesn't care about this election because the president doesn't have a lot of power. | ||
As much power as we think. | ||
as much power as we think. | ||
Unfortunately, and I usually do agree with Alana, and I maybe need to know a little bit more about the context of that statement, but I hugely disagree with that. | ||
Unfortunately, what's happening here is every president over the last probably 40 years has taken more and more power to the executive branch. | ||
Again, quick civics lesson that you should have all learned in seventh grade social studies. | ||
We have three branches of government. | ||
The legislative branch, Congress and the Senate, is supposed to write laws. | ||
They come up with the laws, they write the laws. | ||
The president is the executive branch. | ||
He's supposed to just sign them into law. | ||
That's it! | ||
And then the judicial branch decides if those laws are legal. | ||
That's how it's supposed to operate. | ||
And then there are checks and balances to control those things. | ||
So, for example, the president appoints the Supreme Court justices, but they have to be passed By the legislative branch. | ||
I mean, it's a really beautiful system that our founding fathers created. | ||
Unfortunately, what's happening is, as we've had such terrible gridlock in Congress, the President has taken more and more power. | ||
Obama has done a lot via executive action. | ||
By the way, George Bush did a lot via executive action. | ||
They all do a lot. | ||
And it seems like this is why people are screaming about Hillary and Trump. | ||
Guys, we're not voting for a king or a queen. | ||
We're voting for a third of the government. | ||
If you would pay enough attention to those other parts, then it wouldn't matter that much, actually, if these people won or lost. | ||
Because they'd only be a piece of the puzzle, not the whole fucking board game. | ||
So I don't know, I'd like to know a little bit more about what Ilan was thinking, you know, about the specific quote, but I would very much disagree with that. | ||
The President of the United States has an incredible amount of power, probably too much power, and there's, because our system is so whacked right now, there's no one in Congress or the Senate that could stop these people, you know, short of us going into some massive impeachment process and real constitutional crisis. So we have to, and that's again, | ||
that's why I would be for more limited government. The government shouldn't do that much. I | ||
personally don't think the government should make sure we have roads, make sure that we're safe, | ||
have a strong military so that we don't have to use it. I think keep taxes low so you can do | ||
with your dollar what you want. | ||
And I'd be for states rights, let's be governed by people locally rather than | ||
than across the country in Washington. What about the Supreme Court? What about | ||
the Supreme Court element of it? | ||
The winner of this election will put a very important seat on the Supreme Court. | ||
So the best argument that I think I've heard from the Hillary people is the Supreme Court | ||
argument because look, when they talked about Roe v. Wade, so Roe v. Wade, what Roe v. | ||
Wade did said that abortion was a federal right, meaning that states couldn't override | ||
the federal government and say that abortion is illegal. | ||
So if Roe v. Wade, just to be clear, if Roe v. Wade was reversed, it wouldn't make abortion | ||
illegal. | ||
A lot of people think it would make abortion illegal. | ||
All it would do is boot abortion back to the states. | ||
Now then what could happen is certain states, say Kentucky, might then pass laws to make | ||
abortion illegal, which I think would be a problem. | ||
Now I've said many times, I am not, I don't love abortion. | ||
I'm not a huge proponent of abortion, but I personally would not tell a woman what to | ||
do with her body. | ||
Now, that being said, I think there's a point in the course of a pregnancy when there is | ||
an actual functioning living thing in there. | ||
And if you're not going to allow women to have abortions, well then what role does the | ||
If the state is saying, we're not going to let you do something with your body, does the state then have a responsibility to help you after? | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
If they're going to force you to go to term and have that child, well then the state has to give you something to do that. | ||
I know a lot of you, I'm sure, are saying no to that. | ||
But these are the discussions we have to be having. | ||
So the best argument that I've heard for Hillary is that Trump now is saying he would flip Roe v. Wade. | ||
He would put on justices that would flip Roe v. Wade. | ||
That makes a lot of women and pro-choice people concerned. | ||
That's fully legit. | ||
Frankly, I think he's bullshitting on it. | ||
You know, right now it sounds like he's against gay marriage, sort of. | ||
I think he's bullshitting on that, too. | ||
I think he's a New Yorker. | ||
And I think that's the funny thing. | ||
The Christian conservatives that are backing Trump at record numbers, really high, they're really all in it on Trump, they're picking the least Christian conservative guy out there. | ||
The truth is he's not against abortion. | ||
The truth is he's not against gay marriage. | ||
And in a lot of ways, he's been the most pro-gay Republican ever. | ||
He was on stage with a gay rainbow flag last week. | ||
He spoke about gay marriage at the gay people at the Republican convention and got an applause break. | ||
And Peter Thiel, who's openly gay, who I think is really fantastic, and I'd probably vote for, he spoke at the RNC. | ||
So the Supreme Court's an interesting thing, because I don't know, is Trump just lying about those things? | ||
In which case, I would be less concerned, because I think if he was just lying about them, then it would be all right. | ||
But if he isn't lying about them, I can see full reason why a lot of people would vote for Hillary on those things. | ||
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Is the world in for a Brexit shot with a Trump landslide? | |
Is the world in for a Brexit shot, Brexit, Brexit shot with a Trump landslide? | ||
It is 7.52 right now, Eastern. | ||
I do think it's possible, is what I will say. | ||
I've said it all day. | ||
I've had people messaging me all day saying, Dave, what do you think? | ||
What do you really think? | ||
What do you really think? | ||
I say, well, just watch my videos. | ||
I'm telling you what I think. | ||
What I really think is, is that if the Trump people, who are as enthused as they seem to be, if they really come out in record numbers, not just tweet, I'm not just talking about Pepe frog Harambe stuff, but if they really do, then he really could win. | ||
But if they don't, if this just ultimately ends up being, for all the screaming on both sides, if this ends up being just a sort of normal election, which will probably have higher turnout in general, but not like crazy turnout, then I pretty much think Hillary has to win. | ||
I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. | ||
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What do you think will happen in Milo's future if Daddy loses tonight? | |
Will he lose credibility? | ||
You can shoot. | ||
Yeah. | ||
People are sending smaller vibes. | ||
Also, would be good for you. | ||
All right, people are saying smaller bags. | ||
So the question was basically, what do I think will happen to Milo after this? | ||
Right now, if you guys turn on CNN, not that I want you to stop watching this, | ||
they're showing the Hillary stage. | ||
That looks like the stage of someone that just won. | ||
Like that's the stage of someone that's preparing to win tonight. | ||
And if you look at the Trump one, it's much, much smaller, which if you remember, uh, when, uh, eight years ago when Obama beat McCain, Obama had these colossal things. | ||
It was over the top, looked like Rome. | ||
And McCain that night was in like the back of a hotel in this like little dingy thing. | ||
So who, who knows? | ||
Maybe they have some internal polling stuff that we don't know about. | ||
Um, so. | ||
So the question was about Milo. | ||
What do I think Milo's future is? | ||
Look, I like Milo. | ||
I've said it many times. | ||
I really do like Milo. | ||
We hung out personally. | ||
He's been to my place. | ||
We've had dinner. | ||
I really like Milo. | ||
I think what he does is important. | ||
Not everyone will listen to a measured conversation. | ||
Between Dave Rubin and some other person. | ||
Sometimes people need to hear something crazy to wake up, and I've heard a lot of people say that to me. | ||
I didn't know who you were, but then I saw you with Milo, and he said some crazy shit, you said some sane shit, and that's changed the way I think. | ||
Well, that's a beautiful thing. | ||
And, you know, I would say that what is his future if Trump loses? | ||
Look, being in the opposition can be pretty good, you know? | ||
It can be pretty lucrative, it can be pretty successful, and maybe Maybe if Trump loses, you know, they're saying maybe he'll do a Trump TV thing. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Does Milo get a show on Trump TV? | ||
Milo will be fine. | ||
Milo is for Milo. | ||
And Milo will be just fine. | ||
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Alright, let's see here. | |
Do you think there's any possibility of violence, depending on the result of the election? | ||
Whenever, maybe. | ||
Do I think of any possibility of violence depending on the results? | ||
I think if it becomes really close, if it's really, really close and Clinton just ekes by, I think Trump people are gonna feel it was rigged because of some of the language that he was using. | ||
If they go out on the streets, who knows? | ||
If Trump wins, do I think that the Clinton people, look, there was a lot of violence at the DNC that wasn't really shown by the mainstream media. | ||
There was a ton of, Leftists and socialists, whatever, burning cop cars and breaking things. | ||
So there's plenty of violence opportunity there, probably more in a way, even though I know that's against conventional thinking, that there would be more violence on the left than there would be on the right. | ||
But that's sort of what we've seen over the course of the last year. | ||
I do think it's possible. | ||
I really hope it doesn't, it doesn't happen. | ||
And that's, you know, that's also the issue when you ramp up the rhetoric the way it's been done, and you make this about personal attacks and all this bullshit instead of issues, then people start thinking that Dave, do you like the Libertarian Party better than the Green Party? | ||
to do some crazy shit. | ||
So I do think, I don't know, my guess is there will be some instances of it this time around. | ||
Hopefully nothing cataclysmic, but I think there will be some. | ||
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Dave, do you like the Libertarian Party better than the Green Party? | |
How much time have you spent watching Jill Stein interviews? | ||
Do I like the Libertarian Party better than the Green Party? | ||
And how much have I watched of Jill Stein? | ||
So the Libertarian Party as a party is pretty bad because it's hard to get a whole bunch of Libertarians, people who are talking about individual freedom, it's hard to get them in a room and say, guys, agree on something, because it's about the individual. | ||
So it's a lot easier to galvanize people around the collective. | ||
The Democrats have done this really well, and that's why they focus on, we want to get blacks, and we want to get Latinos, and gays, and whatever. | ||
Now, I don't like that line of thinking, because within those minority groups, there are many other minorities, and then you start ignoring them. | ||
One of the quotes I say all the time from Ayn Rand is that the ultimate minority is the individual. | ||
I think I credited that to Ayaan Hirsi Ali about a thousand times, but it's Ayaan Rand. | ||
So the Libertarian Party itself, look, when's the last time one of you voted for a Libertarian down ticket, you know, for the Congress or local state senator or something? | ||
Pretty much never, I would bet. | ||
I would love to know if someone here has. | ||
They haven't created a party. | ||
They've gotten on the ballots, which is just fine, and then they haven't created a real party. | ||
So it would be great if we had some Libertarians running down ticket. | ||
That would be great. | ||
The Greens, it's also very similar. | ||
Very similar situation of a disorganized party. | ||
Jill Stein, I think, is a bit of a conspiracy theorist and a sort of a nutbag. | ||
Her VP candidate has said some strange stuff and she's far to the left. | ||
So that means bigger and bigger and bigger government. | ||
That government is the answer to everything. | ||
So, of course, you guys know at this point I would be much more for someone on the libertarian side than I would be on the green side. | ||
That being said, the word green is associated with the environment, and I am for doing things that would be good for the environment. | ||
When there are ways that are sensible and practical to make decisions that would be good for the environment without destroying humans for some other reason, of course you've got to do those things. | ||
Hillary's taken a pretty sizable lead in Ohio, which could be interesting, by the way. | ||
All right, let's do a little radio reset for you guys. | ||
This is it. | ||
This is the big election. | ||
This is what we've been doing for the last year. | ||
It's like we've all been fucking for like a year, and tonight is the climax. | ||
And what happens tomorrow? | ||
Do we ever see each other again? | ||
Tonight, I'm with you guys for another hour until 9 o'clock Eastern, and then I'm jumping on to Steven Crowder's channel for about a half hour, and then from there I'm heading over to Ben Shapiro's studio with Daily Wire guys, I think Glenn Beck's over there, and a couple other people, so I'm looking forward to doing that. | ||
And we'll see what happens! | ||
I'm gonna stay with Shapiro as long as they'll have me, but if this thing goes late into the night, I'll probably jump back on here later, and it's crazy! | ||
Next poll's about to close. | ||
You know, it's a crazy time we live in. | ||
People really, I would wonder, how many of you guys over the last couple weeks, you'd be at dinner, I had two friends over for dinner a couple nights ago, and we were talking about family and life and whatever, and then it got to the politics thing towards the end of the dinner, and everybody was like, no, no. | ||
Let's not do it, let's not do it. | ||
All right, so CNN's rolling out a couple things here. | ||
It looks like Hillary won the things she was supposed to win. | ||
Illinois, Jersey, what else here? | ||
If there's any shockers, I'll have the guys yell them out for me, but it looks like won a bunch that she was supposed to win, Massachusetts, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
These are all Democratic strongholds that she's supposed to win. | ||
Just think how crazy this is. | ||
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, that's where we're at. | ||
Maryland, so yeah, there you go. | ||
So those are all, so nothing changes there. | ||
That's all sort of conventional wisdom stuff. | ||
So so far tonight, nothing has happened that is out of the norm. | ||
And if everything plays by the norm, then Hillary wins, and that's that. | ||
Amira. | ||
Or David. | ||
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Do you think Obama talking about atheism on Bill Marsh was surprising or your thoughts about it? | |
I'm chewing slowly, Puget. | ||
Okay, they're showing that Trump won Oklahoma, Mississippi and something else, | ||
which are all ones that he was supposed to win. | ||
The question was, did... | ||
Did I think that Obama talking about atheism on real time, what do I think the effect of that is? | ||
Believe it or not, I didn't see it yet. | ||
As I said, because of this move, I didn't have TV all week. | ||
I didn't have internet all week. | ||
I've been running around like a crazy person. | ||
So I'm a little behind. | ||
I saw a tiny little snippet of it, but I didn't see it yet. | ||
But just hearing that, I didn't even hear about that, that's actually pretty great. | ||
That's actually pretty great. | ||
Generally speaking, atheists. | ||
Atheists. | ||
I'm an atheist. | ||
I do not believe without evidence, basically. | ||
That's all it means. | ||
That's all it means. | ||
You know, I've said many times, I'm a non-believer because I only would believe something that could be proven to me. | ||
If someone said to me, That I saw LeBron James dunk from half court last night. | ||
Did you see that? | ||
I'll go, well, can I see the video? | ||
I would need some evidence. | ||
I wouldn't just take it on faith. | ||
That being said, I don't care what you believe. | ||
In your own private life, if you believe in this flying spaghetti monster or you believe in whatever, whatever religion you believe in or practice you have, as long as that doesn't infringe on my rights as a person, then I have no problem with that. | ||
Now, the problem is that religion and politics have become really intertwined. | ||
We know that the Christian conservatives are seriously backing Trump, and you know that they're preaching about that at churches, and I'm sure that's happening in all kinds of other religions. | ||
Emma has just about had it with the election. | ||
She's just right there. | ||
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Yeah, she's right there. | |
Okay, so she's had it. | ||
So that's what I would say about that. | ||
Bailey? | ||
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Let's see. | |
Do you or Crowder or Shapiro think we can really scale up alternative media of counter-extremism? | ||
I love that question. | ||
Who said that question? | ||
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Because I want to give them a shout out. | |
Someone on Patreon said it. | ||
We'll find out who it was. | ||
The question basically was, John on Patreon, do you and Crowder and Shapiro and some others really think that you can scale up this thing that we're all doing which is trying to not demonize everybody? | ||
I would argue that I do the least demonization of the three because I think Crowder does some, and Ben probably does some, and I can't say that I do none. | ||
But I would say I try to do the least. | ||
But really scale up what we're doing, and can we really make this bigger than this crap on CNN and the partisan crap on MSNBC and Fox and all that? | ||
Yes, I absolutely believe it. | ||
I'm working on things right now that I can't really talk about publicly that I think can make that happen. | ||
There are people, people want it, they are aware of it, but you know, it's like people don't They don't know it until they have it. | ||
And that's why it's so important that you guys that are watching this, you know, again, how appreciative and humbled I am by the 3,000 of you. | ||
The 3,000 people that donate to us on Patreon every month, whether you give a dollar or a hundred dollars or whatever, you allow, it's not that you're not just doing this for yourself. | ||
What you're doing is you're basically funding our ability to do this. | ||
For all the other people, right? | ||
For the people that don't have as much money or aren't as generous or whatever it is, you're funding that so that these ideas can get to other people. | ||
And I really mean this. | ||
If CNN came to me next week and offered me a million dollar deal, I would not take it. | ||
I really would not. | ||
Now that doesn't mean there are other partnerships that I think can really get this to scale level, really start some sort of new network or something. | ||
There's all kinds of ideas I have in conversations that we're having all the time. | ||
And I think it's ready. | ||
It's ready for that. | ||
But for now, I'm fully enjoying the independence of this. | ||
But we need allies. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
We need allies. | ||
Boba Fett was probably a lonely guy being a bounty hunter. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
He hung out with the other bounty hunters, but that's it. | ||
And you want allies in this space. | ||
And interestingly, as a sort of disaffected liberal, as a liberal that calls out the regressive left, I don't have many natural allies. | ||
So I don't have, you know, like, we've got the regressives and you guys all know who they are. | ||
But a lot of the allies that I found, I disagree with politically, but we stand on the same principles of free speech and stuff like that. | ||
So it's strange for me in a way, because the people that I feel I have the most in common with aren't people that I necessarily agree with politically, but I agree with sort of on a, I guess on a moral sense or a philosophical sense about this stuff. | ||
I don't know, it's actually been kind of cool. | ||
I've met a lot of interesting people over the last couple months. | ||
And yeah, I was actually at a, I'll give you just a little sidebar story here. | ||
I was at a event that Dennis Prager, some of you guys may know Dennis Prager, he does a, he's a conservative talk show host. | ||
I've done Larry King's show with him before, totally nice guy. | ||
And I was at an event that he threw maybe two weeks ago, and he's a conservative, and we disagree on some stuff, and we've disagreed on stuff publicly, by the way. | ||
And he gave a speech, and in his speech, it was so clear to me that he was trying to reach out to people like me. | ||
And I thought, wow, there's something there. | ||
So I emailed him after and well, you know, we'll see. | ||
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We'll see. | |
But I think there's room for sane people to find each other. | ||
The average conservative is not the enemy of the average liberal right now. | ||
There are far bigger enemies that we both have to fry. | ||
So there you go. | ||
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Do you feel like Trump voters in some way have a point feeling alienated, looked down | |
upon, disrespected by the left, or blessed by the politically correct mainstream? | ||
Yeah, I do. | ||
The question was do I think Trump supporters have a point feeling looked down upon by the | ||
mainstream media and that they're mocked and all that stuff. | ||
Yes, I absolutely do. | ||
I think, and this is why I've been fighting against the left for so long, what's, what's happened to the left or what I've seen happen to the left. | ||
Because if your argument, if every time someone does something, your argument is you're racist, you're gross, you're a bigot, you're an Islamophobe, you're a blah, blah, blah. | ||
That's not an argument. | ||
That doesn't mean there isn't some semblance of truth sometimes to that. | ||
Some people base their decisions in bigotry, true bigotry. | ||
Most people don't. | ||
And if your arguments are non-starters, every time someone argues with you, you go, you're a bigot. | ||
What you do is you create, they then start looking for alternate voices. | ||
They look then for someone who's just gonna say crazy shit to get power back to them. | ||
And that is only a human reaction. | ||
And you would do the same thing if someone, if you were constantly undercut and every belief you have, if you were belittled, your religious beliefs were belittled or any of your personal beliefs were belittled all the time and mocked on television all the time and whatever. | ||
You would start turning to other people that maybe you don't even like Trump or trust Trump, but you just want somebody to say something that sort of sounds like something important to you. | ||
Better, if the left of these last two years, and that's why I've talked about this so much, right? | ||
It's not out of great joy. | ||
It's out of depression, sort of, of what's happened to the left. | ||
If the left would have been better, I think, A, they could have picked a better candidate than Hillary, and I think they could have stopped someone like Trump, and we would have had a more sane election. | ||
That's really, really what I think. | ||
By the way, the popular vote right now is three points ahead to Trump, which is interesting. | ||
He's got about 500,000 more votes. | ||
It was around 7,000. | ||
900 for him. | ||
We could have a situation here tonight, by the way, where Trump wins popular and Hillary wins electoral, which happened to Al Gore, by the way, but I think all hell would break loose this time because he would really feel he has a mandate by the people and people are so angry at the system. | ||
So that could be an interesting place to be at. | ||
Where are we at there? | ||
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What do you feel like the future of libertarian socialism is in the United States? | |
70, each candidate. | ||
What do I think the future of Libertarian Socialism is? | ||
I have literally no idea. | ||
I don't know what that means! | ||
Comment again and we'll try to find it. | ||
Libertarian Socialism doesn't sound like... those sound like complete opposite things. | ||
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Maybe you meant Libertarian and Socialism? | |
Maybe you meant libertarianism and socialism. | ||
Look, I think for libertarianism, I think that I hope that it starts taking root in a new way and people start understanding the role of government and why taxes should be low and why you should care about liberty and the individual and you shouldn't care who somebody sleeps with or what they smoke. | ||
So I hope that takes root. | ||
I seriously hope socialism doesn't take root. | ||
I believe that what you earned is yours. | ||
I believe in limited government. | ||
I don't want to blame the patriarchy and the white male for everything. | ||
I spoke at a school in Santa Monica this week, a high school in Santa Monica, and there was a guy running for president, I think, for the Socialist Party, I forget his name, and all he kept doing was blaming everything on the patriarchy and white males and blah blah blah. | ||
And I saw some kids were into it, like actually listening to him and it sounded so absurd. | ||
So finally I turned to him and I apologized for being a white man and actually got a big laugh from the kids so they started realizing how ridiculous it was. | ||
But socialism has never led to more freedom for anyone. | ||
It's all nonsensical theory that has led to a lot of deaths. | ||
So I do believe in capitalism. | ||
Now we have a problem here with crony capitalism that has allowed the rich to just get richer and richer and richer. | ||
But capitalism has brought more goodness to more people than any other system that I know of. | ||
That doesn't mean it ain't flawed, because it is. | ||
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Do you think that Clinton will try to blame a Republican-controlled Congress if she gets nothing done in four years as President? | |
Yeah, of course. | ||
Will Clinton blame a Republican-controlled Congress if she doesn't get anything done? | ||
Of course. | ||
I mean, the whole system is screwed. | ||
That's why a lot of people are into Trump. | ||
The system is in gridlock. | ||
The Republican Congress, the Republican Senate, basically did nothing except block Obama. | ||
Think about it. | ||
We have been short a Supreme Court Justice for the last six months, since Antonin Scalia died. | ||
The Republicans just decided, We're not voting on it. | ||
We're just not voting on it. | ||
We're not going to let Obama's nominee be voted on. | ||
They don't have a right to do that. | ||
By the way, many, many years ago, when Joe Biden was in the Senate, the same exact thing happened, I think, when Ronald Reagan wanted to get somebody passed and Joe Biden was a Democrat. | ||
He did the exact same thing the Republicans are doing now. | ||
So they're all in bed together. | ||
They're all bullshit artists together. | ||
And this is the beauty of the Internet. | ||
Because we're starting to be able to see this shit. | ||
If you don't believe what I just said, just check on YouTube. | ||
Find Biden talking about the Supreme Court Justice back in... I forget. | ||
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Off the top of my head, I can't remember who it was. | |
Dave, I'm a union leader. | ||
My union leadership chose not to endorse any candidate. | ||
Who do you think will be a better candidate for the wavering class? | ||
I appreciate your views. | ||
That'll go up. | ||
The question is from a union leader and he said that Their union chose not to endorse anybody, which I think is good, actually. | ||
You know, everybody endorsing everybody. | ||
Newspapers endorsing everybody. | ||
It's so absurd. | ||
Newspapers are supposed to be impartial. | ||
Of course they're not. | ||
But it's like they throw it in our face. | ||
Like, of course, New York Times is for Hillary Clinton, obviously, more than Donald Trump. | ||
But endorsing him, it's like, yeah, guys, that's how it is. | ||
That's just how it is. | ||
So I would say, who do I think is going to be better for the labor unions and the working class? | ||
Um, it's hard to say because this whole election has been so hard to really understand how these people would govern. | ||
I think you have a better sense probably of how Clinton would govern basically like Obama. | ||
So if you think that, um, that Obama's been basically good to the working man, which I know a lot of people obviously in Pennsylvania and blue collar areas and in upstate New York especially don't think he has. | ||
But if you think he has, then that makes sense. | ||
Trump, it's a little harder to say, but you know, generally being for lower taxes, so | ||
more money in your pocket is good. | ||
Is this a hard, I don't know that I can give that one like a really sensible answer because | ||
that's the issue with Trump. | ||
We don't know how we would govern. | ||
So it's hard to say. | ||
I wish I could give you a better answer on that one. | ||
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How's the home studio coming along? | |
How's the home studio coming along? | ||
All right, let's stop talking about the election for just a second. | ||
I'm very excited. | ||
We just moved in here last week. | ||
I've met with contractors and electricians and lighting guys and flooring people and a gajillion other people. | ||
I haven't shown the studio publicly at all. | ||
So it's the garage, by the way. | ||
It's a two-car garage with a nice high ceiling. | ||
We're going to build it into something really awesome. | ||
It's a little wider than a two-car garage. | ||
We're gonna do some really, really cool stuff. | ||
And by the way, you guys that have all joined us on Patreon.com slash RubinReport or hooked us up on PayPal at RubinReport.com slash donate, you guys have enabled us to do this and remain independent. | ||
We're gonna start doing more shows. | ||
You know, we've already doubled the shows as of a couple of weeks ago. | ||
We're doing two interviews per week. | ||
We're thinking about doing like a weekly news thing, some more live streaming stuff from the studio. | ||
I shouldn't be on my couch right now. | ||
I should be from the studio. | ||
We should be Skyping people in. | ||
Like we're gonna do all that kind of stuff. | ||
So the build will begin Probably this coming week, or I know it is actually. | ||
We have the guy, actually on Thursday, we have the first pieces of it being built. | ||
And then, they're telling me it's only going to take two weeks, but contractors, that could mean two years. | ||
So we'll see. | ||
But in the meantime, while it's being built out, we have a bunch of content waiting. | ||
We have an interview with Michael Shermer coming up, Andrew Clavin, Liana Kersner, a couple other people. | ||
And we'll do Skype interviews that, you know, I may have to do it, you know, sitting right here or wherever it is, but we'll do Skype interviews. | ||
Right now, by the way, Florida is dead tied. | ||
It was off my list. | ||
With 86% in, that is wild. | ||
North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, all too early to call. | ||
I mean, those are all the swing states right there. | ||
Or those are the early swing states. | ||
So that's really, really interesting. | ||
We got a long night ahead of us, guys. | ||
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Do you think it's a good thing that people are voting for Hillary Clinton not because she's a woman, but rather that she's the lesser of two evils? | |
Or is it bad that people are voting for her as the lesser of two evils? | ||
So the question basically was the lesser of two evil thing. | ||
If you believe that they're both evil, if you believe that Trump is a narcissist with no moral center or whatever that is, and if you believe that Hillary is deeply corrupt and the Clinton Foundation was up to no good in WikiLeaks and the connections with the media and all that, if that is voting for her as the lesser of two evils, is that, I guess the question really is that, is that a sensible thing or a moral thing or something? | ||
I think that's a personal choice, I really do. | ||
Like, I understand the people, there's a certain amount of people that say, | ||
"Look, I think both of these candidates are terrible, and I don't want to go, I don't want to put my name | ||
attached with either one of them. | ||
So because of that, I'm not going to vote." | ||
Now, I believe that you have to vote one way or another. | ||
Then vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. | ||
Like, you gotta find somebody in the mix to vote. | ||
By the way, George Carlin, who I respect more than almost any human being to have ever existed on Earth, had a great bit about why you shouldn't vote. | ||
So, you know, you don't always have to agree with everyone. | ||
Even your heroes, you're allowed to disagree with sometimes. | ||
So the lesser of two evil thing, I understand it. | ||
I think that more Hillary people are choosing that choice than Trump people, obviously, because he's a wild card altogether. | ||
I think that unfortunately, look, in a situation where if you think we have two shitty candidates, but you really fear Trump's moral center or whatever, you know, you don't want his finger on the button or whatever, then you make the choice based on, you know, it's all a calculated risk for you. | ||
So I think that's a fun way to make a decision. | ||
It's a depressing way to make a decision. | ||
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Is this the beginning of the second American Revolution? | |
Oh man. | ||
Is this the beginning of the second American Revolution? | ||
I sincerely hope not. | ||
I really hope not. | ||
I know that feeling is out there, that we're really splitting into two countries or something and that the ruling class versus the people and all that. | ||
I think a lot of that is ginned up by the way we all act on social media. | ||
We're all at each other's throats all the time. | ||
Joe Rogan and I talked about this a bit yesterday, that there are almost two worlds happening out there. | ||
Look, when you go out on a daily basis, and even I went to the polling station today, again, I was in West Hollywood. | ||
It's a very Hillary-centric place. | ||
RuPaul was online with me. | ||
You know, when you, and I saw Trump guys there. | ||
I saw a Trump guy, a guy walked out yelling, Magna Trump, whatever, making American great again. | ||
Um, so I know there's a feeling online that like everything's fraying. | ||
It's because everyone's fighting online. | ||
It's so easy to sit on Twitter and tell everyone that they're a fucking idiot or this person's an asshole or... | ||
You're a fucking moron or whatever. | ||
It makes everyone crazy. | ||
But in reality, people have families. | ||
There are husbands and wives who disagree on this thing that we'll remain married. | ||
There are fathers and sons. | ||
All of that. | ||
So I don't think it's as bad as people want it to be. | ||
There are a lot of people who want to profit off the anger and profit off the division. | ||
Not the way I want to profit, but those people are out there and you have to be aware of it, for sure. | ||
I don't think we're setting up for a second revolution. | ||
Maybe, maybe in the most sort of dystopian way. | ||
The underpinnings of it are happening right now, but I don't think it's happening in the immediate future. | ||
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Dave, do you think the Trump Republicans continue to rally behind Trump in the months and years | |
ahead or is it possible for someone else to take the baton? | ||
Can the establishment win them back? | ||
Can the establishment win the Trump people back? | ||
Well, A, it depends what happens tonight, right? | ||
So if Trump wins, you're gonna see all the establishment Republicans be all about Trump 'cause they're gonna go, | ||
"All right, I mitigated my risk. | ||
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"I didn't support him, but now he's in power "and he's better than Hillary and he's the winner | |
"and I wanna be a winner too." | ||
So they're gonna all jump on that. | ||
If Trump loses... | ||
That's the interesting piece, because do the Trump people and the mainstream Republicans, conservatives, have almost nothing to do with each other? | ||
What does Trump and... | ||
Paul Ryan had in common virtually nothing, right? | ||
So if Trump loses, the Republicans have a chance to reboot. | ||
But can they reboot without a chunk of their people? | ||
If the Trump people will never go back to them, which I suspect a lot of them won't, how does the GOP reboot with a huge piece of it missing, considering it will have lost to Hillary and lost to Obama? | ||
So I think that's a really interesting story. | ||
By the way, I've said it many times, I think that same story is coming to the Democrats. | ||
I think regardless of whether Hillary wins or loses, the split between the progressives and liberals and more blue dog Democrats is real, and it's happened already, and people just don't see it yet. | ||
I think a lot of you guys see it, but I think that the sort of mainstream thing hasn't percolated up yet. | ||
So I don't know. | ||
Basically it depends on who wins tonight, but assuming Trump loses, going on that assumption, does he then make overtures to the conservatives to sort of form a new party, you know, like just really bring the Trump and the conservatives together? | ||
Or is he just saying, fuck you, he may not even want anything to do with politics anymore, and then let some new leader take care of the Trump people, and then what does that mean for the future of conservatism? | ||
Probably something not very good, if you like conservatives. | ||
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Shouldn't the Supreme Court be apolitical? | |
If the judges are being nominated by the politicians, they would just be tools in not doing their job, which is interpreted the Constitution objectively. | ||
Yeah, so basically the question is, shouldn't the Supreme Court be apolitical and because they're being appointed by political people, there's obviously a political bent behind it and that shouldn't they strictly Yes, of course. | ||
In theory, of course, right? | ||
But, you know, people have different judicial philosophies. | ||
So when Trump says, you know, I'm going to appoint people that'll get rid of Roe v. Wade, what he's not saying is he's going to find someone that publicly has said, I'm going to flip Roe v. Wade as much as I'm going to govern in a way that will be more for states' rights, let's say, in that particular, in the Roe v. Wade instance. | ||
Man, Florida is .1% off. | ||
Trump is up by about 8,000 votes with 88% in. | ||
I mean, that's something. | ||
We could end up in a Gore Bush situation in Florida. | ||
So yeah, I think, so it's about judicial philosophy, that when you bring in these judges, you never know what they're gonna do. | ||
You know, John Roberts, who was brought in by George W. Bush, has ended up being a lot more to the left than a lot of conservatives thought. | ||
They're pissed at George Bush because of that. | ||
So you don't know, and you shouldn't know. | ||
You would want them to govern by You would want them to govern by the book. | ||
That's what I want, is to look at the laws we are governed by and govern by that, by the Constitution. | ||
Once they start injecting their own feelings or thinking it's a living document as opposed to... | ||
something that has to be maintained, then it's a different situation. | ||
So yeah, I agree with you and look, that's a little, our system is pretty great, | ||
but that is a little bit of a flaw of the system. | ||
It's a political process to get people to be apolitical, to be judges. That's a bit of a... | ||
It's all, it's sort of like an oxymoron and it's, and, but it may just be a flaw that we have to live with. | ||
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Is the GOP just fucked? | |
Hmm. | ||
Is the GOP just fucked? | ||
Basically, yes. | ||
If by the GOP you mean the grand old party, which is the gayest name ever. | ||
If you mean those people, the standard conservatives, then they are fucked. | ||
Because if tonight, if Trump wins, they're really on the outs. | ||
And you know he's vindictive. | ||
And he's not going to go with their overtures, I don't think. | ||
Unless they come groveling to him, which he would love. | ||
So the standard Republicans really are kinda screwed at the moment. | ||
Um, if Trump loses, it goes to what I said before, if he loses, well then I guess they have some leverage to like form a newly passionate party with the Trump people. | ||
Um, but we'll see. | ||
But I think that the Republican Party as an institution really is banged up and in trouble right now. | ||
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Okay. | |
Uh, Dave, do you think the, oh wait, did you already ask this one? | ||
Yeah, we already asked that one. | ||
One of your latest videos was about how this election has been so devoid of talking about actual issues. | ||
What are your top three issues that you would have liked to hear talked about more or think are generally the most important for the future of the United States? | ||
I love that question. | ||
So I did a DM I think last week about how the election has been so devoid of issues and we've been talking about grand publicity, we've been talking about WikiLeaks and scandals and the Clinton Foundation and all that. | ||
What are the top three things that I think we should talk about? | ||
So number one, I'll go sort of macro on this one, would simply be role of government. | ||
What is the government supposed to do? | ||
What is it for? | ||
I would say number one, the government is supposed to protect you. | ||
The whole reason that a nation exists. | ||
Why does the United States exist? | ||
We have a border with other countries because we protect our own people. | ||
So I would say number one is that the role of government is to protect its citizens, protect its borders, | ||
protect us, make sure that people outside don't hurt us, people inside don't hurt us. | ||
Number two, I would say is to make sure we have jobs, make sure that the economy is chugging along. | ||
Basically, what I would argue for that is, and this is where something | ||
where I have evolved a little bit to be a little more like a libertarian | ||
than I was maybe a year or two ago, but I would say mostly that means | ||
But I would say mostly that means that the government should stay out of business, | ||
that the government should stay out of business, let business go. | ||
let business go. | ||
Now, I don't know that you're gonna completely free markets because I think there's a chance they end up, | ||
I don't know that you're gonna have completely free markets because I think there's a chance they end up, | ||
you know, you get giant monoliths that will destroy everything and destroy, | ||
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you get giant monoliths that will destroy everything than I was maybe a year or two ago. | |
create, you know, new products and all kinds of stuff and we'll all be basically slaves to the machine. | ||
But I would say basically free markets. | ||
So I believe the government has a couple of roles. | ||
It has to protect us. | ||
I think it should let markets run. | ||
Marco Rubio, by the way, will stay in the Senate in Florida. | ||
So it should let the markets run and low taxes basically because you, again, this is about liberty. | ||
This is a very classical liberal value, if you don't think of it as something liberal these days. | ||
But liberalism would say that you have the right to your earnings and that you can decide what to do with your money. | ||
And by the way, for all these people that want higher taxes, it's like, the government's got plenty of fucking money. | ||
There's always more money for bombs, right? | ||
So how about we find a way to give more money to us to decide what to do with it? | ||
There is a way to do it. | ||
And they just can't want to trick you in thinking the government always needs more and more. | ||
So I'd say protecting us, make sure the economy is running. | ||
And then I would say, and maybe this is the most important because it leads to all of the others, I would say that creating a system of education is extremely important. | ||
Now that doesn't mean it has to be federally done the way the Department of Education does it. | ||
Because I do think a little more local control related to education would be good. | ||
But making sure our people are smart, you know, making sure we know about science, making sure we know about basic math and basic civics and basically how the government works. | ||
These are important things. | ||
And when you have an informed electorate, you won't nominate terrible people. | ||
So we need to try to have an education system that actually rewards people for knowledge. | ||
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What do you think about ballot proposals that have extra stuff added to them that prevent you from voting yes or no? | |
In my voting process today. | ||
You guys ask really good questions. | ||
So the question was basically, what do you think about these ballot proposals where they load in all of this other shit and you suddenly don't know what you're voting for? | ||
So there were a couple of those on the ballot today here in California, where it was like, | ||
it was something like, you know, the, we'll raise taxes, something like this, I'm totally mangling | ||
what the reality was, but it was something like, we'll raise taxes 0.5 cents on bags | ||
if we can put a park in a thing, and then, you know, like the stuff, it's so complex to read, | ||
and they start putting in things that, wait, that has nothing to do with nothing. | ||
So I tried today, basically, I did vote for, I will tell you, I did vote for the thing | ||
to legalize marijuana in California, but then most of the other measures, I felt, | ||
I voted for something to abolish the death penalty, I just don't believe the state should have the right | ||
to kill people, but pretty much everything else, although not, I can't say for sure | ||
that it was everything else, I tried to vote for things that wouldn't have increased taxes, basically, | ||
was the way I went about doing it. | ||
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What are your thoughts on Prop 60, which is the condom reform? | |
Oh, I did. | ||
I voted against that, actually, because look, the health issue about it obviously is real. | ||
There's no doubt about it. | ||
So Prop 60 basically said that California was going to outlaw porn companies from making porn in California if they didn't use condoms. | ||
So the reason I voted against it was purely on just sort of like a sense. | ||
So I would say this is a very classical liberal reason that I voted against it. | ||
I understand the logic. | ||
in wanting your porn actors to wear condoms. You want them to be safe, right? And you don't want | ||
people to transmit diseases. So fully understand that without question. That being said, by doing | ||
that, what do you actually accomplish if California does that? Well, guess what? All of the porn | ||
companies that generate a lot of money here in California, they are just going to go over the | ||
border and they're going to go to Nevada, right on the other side of the border. | ||
They're going to do the same shit there, and they're going to help the Nevada economy do it. | ||
Now this is an example of why I believe in states' rights, by the way, because as Randy Barnett, who's a Georgetown University Law professor told me, you use your foot vote if you don't like what's happening in your local area that moves somewhere else, and then help that economy. | ||
Take your resources out of the place you don't like, bring it to the other. | ||
And once we have federal control of everything, your only choice, if the feds control everything, your only choice is to leave the country altogether. | ||
So I would say that, um, so I voted against it because at the end of the day, if you force them to do it, they're going to take their money and their business and go elsewhere. | ||
If people want condoms without porn, and people are willing to make it, then passing a law in one state, stopping it, is not going to do anything. | ||
Ha! | ||
Is Louder with Crowder just a straight version of the Rubin Report? | ||
I don't think my show's that gay. | ||
I don't even know what that means, really. | ||
But I do like Steven. | ||
We've had some really healthy debates on things. | ||
He's a good guy, and I'll be live with him in a half hour from now. | ||
By the way, so we got about a half hour left, guys. | ||
Barring some sort of cataclysmic event, we are not going to get the results while I'm live here tonight. | ||
But again, I'm going to be on with Crowder for a half hour right after this, and then I'm heading over to the Daily Wire studios, and I'll be on with Ben Shapiro and a couple of those guys. | ||
I'll be hanging out with the evil Republicans! | ||
We'll see what happens. | ||
Trump has won South Carolina, which only has nine electoral votes, and he was They anticipated to win, and he also won Alabama, which has nine, and he was anticipated to win. | ||
So, so far, pretty much, I don't think there's been one surprise yet, one real surprise, if I'm not mistaken, but somebody could correct me if I missed something while I've been talking to you guys. | ||
Yeah, so that's where we're at at the moment. | ||
It's hard to believe this is happening. | ||
Like, let's just pause for a sec. | ||
It's just hard to believe we're finally here, and that tomorrow we're gonna have an answer to this question. | ||
It feels crazy, doesn't it? | ||
Like, we did it, people, and guess what? | ||
The country's gonna keep marching along. | ||
And I hope that all these new people that are engaged because of this craziness, and for all the wrong reasons, I hope that a lot of these people will stay engaged. | ||
This seems like a good reminder. | ||
Click share, or post this link to this video. | ||
We got a half hour left. | ||
Share some, if you like some of these ideas that I talk about, share this stuff with your friends, because that's how we'll grow some alternative movement to the nonsense that we're bludgeoned with daily. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
How is looking full-blitzers still hot? | ||
That's just a me question. | ||
Amir just said, how does Wolf Blitzer, how is Wolf Blitzer out here? | ||
How does he still have a job? | ||
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It's like, he's such a robot. | |
He's such a freaking robot. | ||
Meanwhile, 70,000 votes with 91% in has Trump over Clinton in Florida, which is huge. | ||
I mean, that really could be something massive tonight. | ||
All right, where are we at? | ||
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Well, this kind of answers that question. | |
Which state would you say is plausible to flip, or which state do you think would shock you? | ||
Mm, nothing like some cold Trader Joe's pizza. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
So the question is, which state is most likely to flip? | ||
And which would shock me. | ||
So even before this result, we don't know that it's gonna happen. | ||
I would have said Florida is the most likely. | ||
I recently was with some relatives on the husband's side, an older generation that were big Trump people. | ||
And I didn't really understand why and then I talked to them about a few things and I got a sense that that feeling was out there in certain parts of Florida. | ||
So I would have probably said Florida. | ||
Florida does skew older obviously, a lot of retirement people down there, Del Boca Vista and such. | ||
So Florida would have been the one I would have guessed would flip. | ||
Um, one that's interesting right now is that Virginia, which I think CNN, somebody on CNN earlier said was, was Hillary Clinton's firewall. | ||
Trump's winning by about 140,000 votes there, which is a lot because Virginia is not a huge state. | ||
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I don't think Kane's ever lost. | |
Oh, and Kane is never lost when he's been on a ballot in Virginia, but he might be losing now. | ||
By the way, I'm pretty sure that John King humps that wall, that magic wall. | ||
He just stands in front of that wall and he's like drooling, he's like looking at it like, ah, you know we're going to commercial, baby. | ||
(laughing) | ||
All right, where are we at? | ||
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Dave, are you worried about massive immigration like you're up to the Hillary win? | |
I think this is a fair question and I've tried to address it somewhat | ||
and talk about it with some of my guests and people get so angry when you talk about this. | ||
So the question was about immigration, and do I think that America will have a flood of immigrants the way that Europe did if Hillary gets in? | ||
Now first off, look, you gotta understand, there's a different geographic situation. | ||
just understand the geography of it, that a lot of these people from Syria, | ||
and by the way, a lot of the immigrants, when people talk about immigrants or refugees, | ||
they're talking about migrants from all kinds of other countries | ||
that are trying to take advantage of the refugee situation to get into other countries. | ||
But there's a geographic thing there because what's happening is a lot of people come from Syria, | ||
they get into Turkey, and Turkey just basically opened the floodgates | ||
and let everybody in. | ||
They started letting them through Greece and letting them through, | ||
basically go through all of Europe and then end up everywhere, | ||
end up in Belgium and Paris and all these other places. | ||
So we're not connected to them. | ||
There's water between us. | ||
So there's a different geographical thing. | ||
That's just a fact. | ||
As I talked about with Rita Panahi from The Herald Sun, she's in Australia. | ||
Australia is surrounded by water. | ||
They've taken in a lot of immigrants. | ||
over the years, many, she's an Iranian immigrant herself. | ||
But there's different things. | ||
When you have geography does play a factor in this stuff. | ||
So do I think Hillary will flood America with immigrants? | ||
Look, the only reason that would matter really is if these people are a threat. | ||
Now, ISIS has said we are going to try to send in people with the immigrants. | ||
Do we trust our vetting process? | ||
I personally don't trust our vetting process. | ||
It seems incredibly untransparent. | ||
We have no idea. | ||
We also know that the people who shot up San Bernardino were on a watch list. | ||
We know that the guy who did the Pulse nightclub shooting was on a watch list. | ||
So like, are our systems, the guys that did the Boston bombing, were on a list? | ||
So like, Is our system prepared to deal with this is the question. | ||
I don't know. | ||
And then there's an economic component to it too. | ||
Germany, there's a huge strain on the German economic system right now. | ||
Germany, because of their history, which has a lot to do with xenophobia because of the Holocaust, they opened their doors thinking they were doing the right thing. | ||
And I think a lot of people regret what they did. | ||
And Merkel could be on the way out because of it. | ||
So do I think Hillary's gonna just flood America with refugees? | ||
My guess is that she certainly would have more than Trump, no doubt about that. | ||
And the question is, do we vet these people properly? | ||
And I don't know that we do. | ||
So it's sort of one of those, it's like a hot button thing where we don't know what they're going to do when they're in office. | ||
But I think most people in Europe would have done something differently than they got. | ||
And that's why Europe is having so many problems. | ||
And we have to have an honest discussion about it. | ||
If every time someone says, well, you know, More for closed borders, or I wanna sort out our vetting first, or I wanna deal with the illegal immigrants that are here right now first. | ||
If your response is, well, you're racist, well, guess what? | ||
Then somebody's gonna come in with an easy answer and say, build a wall with a casino on it. | ||
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So there you go. | |
Do you think there's something inherently designed about our voting system that causes almost every election to be partially neck-to-neck, no matter how bad a candidate is, or is it just more of a reflection of our country? | ||
That's really good, because the question was basically, Is there something wrong with our system that every election seems like it's neck and neck? | ||
Like, if this was true, right? | ||
Let's say Donald Trump was the true racist, bigot, xenophobe, misogynist, pussy-grabbing, money-laundering, evil bastard that the Hillary people would have you believe. | ||
If that was true, shouldn't She'd be up by 15 points right now, easily. | ||
But this thing looks pretty damn close right now. | ||
He's now taken a full one point lead in Florida. | ||
So this is incredibly close right now. | ||
So if it was true, all of those terrible things, you'd imagine after two years of a campaign, | ||
we've had the longest campaign ever, you would think more people would be aware of it. | ||
So it's a little bit, I think it has more to do with just the two party gridlock, | ||
and that's why we need more parties. | ||
And there are risks when you have a lot of parties. | ||
There are many countries in Europe that form coalition governments, | ||
where you need X amount of parties to join a coalition government. | ||
And then sometimes the problem is that if you have two mandates, you have a lot of power | ||
because if the coalition threshold is, let's say 80 votes and you have two, | ||
but you're the ones that put them at 79, 80, you have a lot of power. | ||
So there's all kinds of problems in other systems, too, so I'm fully acknowledging that. | ||
But that said, we need more choices. | ||
What we need, I think it would be great if the Democratic Party split into two, and it was the progressives versus the old-school Democrats, the liberals. | ||
And then you had the Republicans split into two, and you had the Trump wing versus the conservative wing. | ||
Well, guess what? | ||
It might turn out that a coalition could be formed between liberals and conservatives. | ||
That would suddenly be like, you know what? | ||
These guys would disagree a little bit on taxes, but they're not our enemy. | ||
So I think that's potentially the future of this, and I'm going to keep pushing for it because I think it would be a good idea. | ||
Alright, where are we at? | ||
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Do you think that Trump or Hillary could get impeached? | |
Do I think that Trump or Hillary could get impeached? | ||
Look, they both will be scandal ridden from day one, right? | ||
Hillary, with the emails and everything else, there is so much stuff there. | ||
There is so much there that you've got to imagine the Republicans are going to use it. | ||
And with Trump, it's like, you know, what other, I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Look, it would be like, I guess I suppose it would be a little harder to impeach Trump Because there isn't the body of work related to the government. | ||
But who knows what he's going to do? | ||
I think we're in for a messy four years. | ||
But again, that's why stay engaged right now. | ||
If you're feeling passionate about this, if you're feeling disgruntled or angry about this, stay engaged right now so that So that hopefully, four years from now, we get some better people. | ||
Imagine if we had really good people. | ||
Whoever you might think is good on this earth. | ||
Imagine if you walked into that booth today and really felt that someone, it's a gross system. | ||
It breeds bad people. | ||
It breeds dishonesty, all that stuff. | ||
But imagine if we had the type of people that you felt were making us better and being more honest. | ||
That is not the system we have right now, unfortunately. | ||
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Any thoughts on runoff or preferential voting? | |
America's first past the post system means with two awful candidates you have to pick one or waste your vote. | ||
Here in Australia you can say one is the least worse while endorsing someone else. | ||
I don't really know too much about that. | ||
It was something about the runoff or preferential voting which they have in Australia. | ||
Honestly, I don't know much about it. | ||
I will do a little research. | ||
I've had two Australians on recently. | ||
They should have taught me that. | ||
That was Rita and Andrew Bogut from the NBA. | ||
So I'll definitely learn more of that. | ||
Alright guys, we've got about 20 minutes left here, then I'm jumping over to Crowder and then I'm heading over to the Daily Wire Studios with Ben Shapiro. | ||
Hope you guys are getting a little more out of this than you're getting from Robot Wolf Blitzer and John King who's humping the magic wall over there and the rest of these guys. | ||
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I wanna tell how Trump is winning the popular vote right now with fewer electoral votes. | |
Yeah. | ||
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So can you just explain how that works? | |
Okay, so confuse Brent, how is Trump winning the popular vote and losing the electoral vote? | ||
So our electoral college, without getting too wonky here, the reason that the electoral college was created | ||
partly was a way that the two parties could control the whole thing, | ||
but it was also that back in the day when it was harder to travel, | ||
they wanted the states to be important to the president. | ||
So like, if you were a president and you knew there was virtually nobody living in Wyoming, you'd never go there, right? | ||
You'd literally never go. | ||
So they gave them a couple electoral votes, so maybe the guy would have to swing by once, say hi, and that's it. | ||
Now, it doesn't really make sense in 2016 when information is at everyone's hands automatically. | ||
So what could happen is, so for example, California, I don't know off the top of my head, maybe someone will Google it, has something like 200 electoral votes, right? | ||
It's more than that, I think. | ||
And that's because there's a ton of people that live in California. | ||
But California, all of the states, basically, you're just awarded the, how many? | ||
55? | ||
Did I totally mangle that? | ||
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I may have mangled it. | |
Sorry. | ||
California has the most with 55. | ||
So that is a ton. | ||
When you know a state like Delaware I think maybe has three. | ||
Somewhere around there. | ||
Or Alabama has nine. | ||
I'm ballparking some of this stuff. | ||
Can't fit every bit of information in here. | ||
I got Delaware right with three. | ||
That's pretty good. | ||
So basically, You could win, you could technically, you could win in a landslide in the popular vote and lose the electoral college because it's about, you need the electoral votes from the state. | ||
And that's the issue. | ||
And we could end up in that situation tonight. | ||
I'm looking right now, Florida, they're still saying too close to call, 91%, but Trump's up by over a percentage point, which is about 100,000 votes. | ||
That could be hard to overcome mathematically at this point. | ||
Clinton's up a little bit in Ohio, and that's another swing one. | ||
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This is currently in Florida right now for medical marijuana. | |
Medical marijuana looks like it's going to be passed in Florida. | ||
That would be great. | ||
It's at around 70%. | ||
That would be great. | ||
And think of all the old people there, all the grandparents there with glaucoma and all kinds of other things that have had to take all these prescription drugs when they could have maybe just smoked a joint and had some of their... Oh, that's close. | ||
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I guess that happened. | |
That's passed. | ||
Oh, it passed. | ||
All right. | ||
That's close. | ||
Wow. | ||
All right. | ||
There you go, Florida. | ||
Get stoned at Del Boca Vista with the Seinfelds tonight. | ||
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Um, if Hillary wins, this is Peter on Patreon, if Hillary wins, what would you like the outcome in the Senate to be? | |
Majority for the Republicans or the Democrats? | ||
Why are you still eating that? | ||
I'm still hungry, I'm working on the same two little... I have two little small pieces. | ||
Um, can I have some more beer and some more pizza? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Please. | ||
Um, if Hillary wins, would I want the Republicans or the Democrats to control The Senate. | ||
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I would probably say the Republicans because of that checks and balances thing. | ||
I don't want an ever-expanding government, and I think Hillary would expand government immensely. | ||
Now, at the same time, I don't want the endless gridlock that we've had where Republicans have done nothing with Obama. | ||
And he wasn't also, he wasn't really in it with them in terms of wanting to negotiate. | ||
He wanted his way, and they wanted their way, and they didn't get anywhere. | ||
I do think she'll negotiate more, so I would hope that the Republicans would realize this is maybe someone we can negotiate with. | ||
But I don't want everything that Hillary wants to do just be handed to her by the Democrats. | ||
I think that would be bad as well. | ||
All right. | ||
270, by the way, is the magic number that either one of these guys, Hillary or Trump, have to get to. | ||
It's 68-66 right now. | ||
We got a long night ahead of us. | ||
I would guess, my gut feeling is right now, you gotta think that the Clinton people are sweating a little bit more than the Trump people, because the Florida thing is tough. | ||
Ohio is leaning towards Clinton. | ||
But the Clinton people, I think, were hoping for a landslide. | ||
And it's certainly not looking like it's going to be a landslide. | ||
It might be a landslide electorally at the end of this thing, if she somehow bounces back Florida, keeps Ohio, etc. | ||
But this isn't going to be an electoral, this isn't going to be a popular vote landslide, no doubt about that. | ||
North Carolina, Clinton's up by a little bit. | ||
Yeah, we got something interesting on our hands. | ||
It's fun. | ||
This is what it's all about, people. | ||
This is what being in civilization in 2016 and picking our leaders that will shape our lives and all that good stuff, that's what it's all about. | ||
All right, I've been delivered fresh pizza. | ||
I've been delivered fresh beer. | ||
What a day. | ||
What a day. | ||
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Okay. | |
Let's see here. | ||
What do you got for me? | ||
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You may have just answered this and maybe I missed it, but do you think that the Electoral College is obsolete? | |
So that goes off the previous question, do I think the Electoral College is obsolete? | ||
You know, it's really hard to change a system that's worked for so long. | ||
I would say that basically it is. | ||
At this point, because everyone's vote is the same, everyone's vote counts as much, whether you live in Montana with very few people around you, or whether you live in California with a ton of people, the person who wins the popular vote, you've got more votes than your opponent, You probably should be the president. | ||
As I just said a second ago, we may not have that situation tonight. | ||
And we, eight years ago, uh, not eight years ago, uh, what was it? | ||
That was, uh, Clinton-Bush. | ||
That was, not Clinton-Bush, Gore versus, uh, oh man, Gore versus Bush. | ||
That was a long time ago. | ||
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16 years ago! | |
It's hard to believe it was so long ago. | ||
Um, you know, Gore won the popular vote and lost the electoral college. | ||
So, We have to do some things to make the system a little better. | ||
and hopefully the frustration of this election will get us there. | ||
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I think that's all fully legit. | |
No, I don't think so at all. | ||
The question is if Clinton win, is she immune to the FBI in all the email stuff? | ||
I don't think so at all. | ||
I think that any investigation that's pending or anything that's really going on | ||
or if new information came to light or whatever it is, I think that's all fully legit. | ||
I don't think you get diplomatic immunity by being the president. | ||
If anything, there'll be more scrutiny on those things. | ||
And that's been one of my concerns about this all along, which is we don't know exactly what else is out there. | ||
We don't know if WikiLeaks has more or whatever, and it's like, she could get into office | ||
and there could be some pretty scary stuff coming down the pipeline. | ||
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What do you think the next thing coming down the pipeline is? | |
The next thing coming out of the pipeline, um, yeah wait just real quick, Trump has taken over | ||
a two-point lead now, no just about a two-point lead in Florida. That's kind of interesting, | ||
still we're still at 91%. Um, the next big thing coming down the pike, I gotta believe, | ||
I gotta believe that there's gonna be some sort of third party, third way come out of this thing. | ||
The Republicans are going to regroup and, as I said, maybe some liberals will realize they're not there anyways. | ||
Maybe something will happen that will make some sense. | ||
People are tired of this fighting. | ||
This isn't right. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
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Whoever you're supporting, you know something's wrong right now. | |
Firewall? | ||
something's wrong and it's wrong within the constructs of this is still a great | ||
country that you can walk outside and we're not killing each other. Trump is | ||
winning Virginia which is interesting. They have 13 electoral votes and as I | ||
said earlier they were saying that's Hillary's what they call it safeguard or | ||
the firewall. I'm not totally sure why they refer to that as the firewall. | ||
I guess, someone correct me on this one if I'm wrong, I think it's because it's gone Democrat pretty solidly the last couple years, and Kaine is a Virginia guy, so they view it as like, that's one you should have, like not a big, a huge issue, but I'm not, I'm not totally sure the answer on that one. | ||
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Both Clinton and Trump have been criticizing the influence of big money on the elections. | |
Is the end of the super PACs near either way? | ||
Well, the question was, both Clinton and Trump have been talking about the end of money in politics. | ||
Are the Superbacks ending? | ||
Clinton has raised more money than everybody. | ||
She, uh, you know... | ||
It's all about money. | ||
The guy that was anti-money, Bernie, she conspired basically to destroy him. | ||
Trump, it's hard to understand really what his finances are, but certainly didn't have the big money of other corporations and things and powerful people that she had. | ||
I don't think either one of them would stop it. | ||
There's simply no reason to think. | ||
Let's say Hillary wins. | ||
She already beat the Bernie Revolution. | ||
The Bernie Revolution is no more. | ||
They're angry and disaffected. | ||
But she won't feel like she owes them anything because she won. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
She'll have won. | ||
She won't feel like... I don't think that's the way it really works in politics. | ||
That, oh, I beat you. | ||
It was public that I cheated you. | ||
And now I still won, like, I gotta give you something now. | ||
I just don't think that's really how it's gonna be. | ||
So I don't think she would change it, and I have no reason to think Trump would change it. | ||
Trump likes big money people. | ||
And I think, unfortunately, that ship has sailed. | ||
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I don't sense this stuff flipping. | |
Dave, isn't the idea that two parties can represent 300 million people kind of ridiculous? | ||
Yes! | ||
Isn't the idea that two parties can represent 300 million people kind of ridiculous? | ||
Yes, absolutely! | ||
If you think that the whole spectrum of politics should be between what Democrats think and Republicans think, that's crazy! | ||
There's a reason! | ||
The donors give like 51% one year and 49% the other. | ||
It's never 70-30. | ||
They're all in on it together. | ||
So that's what's happening. | ||
Or you can turn on CNN. | ||
You can either watch me right now or I highly recommend you turn on CNN and watch Gloria Borger, who has never said anything interesting ever, who uses anonymous sources. | ||
Oh, my source on Capitol Hill told me. | ||
Oh, my source arrives in the bathroom over at the At the hotel there, and somebody said this. | ||
Then you have David Axelrod, who is a former Obama campaign guy. | ||
They do have Michael Spurkonish on there, who I do think is pretty decent. | ||
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Dave, do you think that Trump is more liberal than Hillary is conservative? | |
Ah, that's interesting. | ||
Do I think that Trump is more liberal than Hillary is conservative? | ||
Well, again, this goes to the issue of the core of Trump and what's there. | ||
We know he wants to win. | ||
And I think that's enough for some people. | ||
We know he wants to win. | ||
But what is at the core of him? | ||
Does he just, like, I think if he got into office he would not be trying to really flip abortion or stop gay marriage or any of this stuff. | ||
So in a certain way, and I don't think he'd be feeling beholden to the Christian conservatives, I think he would do what he thinks is popular and I think most of those things probably would be excuse me, somewhat liberal. As for Hillary, do I think she's | ||
more conservative? It really depends on what you mean by conservative, I guess, at the moment. I | ||
mean, conservative, I think she's pretty left in most things related to taxes or gay marriage or a | ||
couple of those other things, but she's not for legalizing weed, which is extremely | ||
disappointing, even at a medicinal level. | ||
So, thank you. | ||
So do I think she's more right? | ||
I guess she's a little more right when it comes to foreign policy. | ||
She's a little more right maybe with the money in politics, maybe, but I don't know. | ||
That's not really a right-left issue. | ||
Um, so, you know, it's a hard question to answer because we just don't know what Trump's moral center is after winning. | ||
We know he wants to win, but after that we just don't know. | ||
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Um, so somebody chimed in on Patreon and said they call it a firewall because if she wins then, as is likely, then Trump has next to no chance. | |
But if Trump wins just one, then he has a very good chance to win the election. | ||
So it sounds like the reason they're saying firewall is that because if Hillary wins Virginia, there's a very little chance. | ||
I guess Trump's paths start really getting cut off. | ||
At the moment, it looks like Trump's going to win Virginia, or it's pretty damn close. | ||
Michigan's looking pretty close too, but only 9% are in. | ||
So right now, the firewall thing has to be feeling pretty good for the Trump people at the moment. | ||
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I have seven minutes left. | |
Seven minutes left, people! | ||
And then I'm jumping on with Prowder, heading over to the Daily Wire studios with Ben Shapiro and team. | ||
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Somebody sent me a picture on that you're the Maajid Nawaz of the left. | |
I'm the Maajid Nawaz of the left? | ||
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Is Maajid Nawaz a liberal? | |
Maajid is a liberal. | ||
Well, first off, any comparison to Maajid is extremely nice, and he's really one of my heroes. | ||
A guy who was a former Islamist. | ||
Who now is trying to reform Islam. | ||
Who the Southern Poverty Law Center called an anti-Muslim extremist just a week or two ago. | ||
They called him and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. | ||
Ayaan Hirsi Ali. | ||
If you ask me who might be the greatest human being on earth, I would possibly say Ayaan Hirsi Ali. | ||
And they've said she's an anti-Muslim extremist. | ||
A woman who grew up in Somalia, in a Muslim society, who underwent female genital mutilation, who fled. | ||
She was going to be forced to marry the cousin. | ||
Eventually gets to Holland, where she becomes a member of parliament, speaks up about Islam, and her friend Theo Van Gogh, Vincent Van Gogh's grandson, who was doing a documentary on Islam, I think, was murdered in the streets in broad daylight. | ||
They pinned a note on his chest saying, Nayan, we're coming for you next. | ||
She now goes across the world fighting for freedom, fighting for women's rights, talking against jihadism and all this stuff. | ||
And the Southern Poverty Law Center says she's an anti-Muslim extremist. | ||
So, on that point, who will become the Dave Rubin Reformer of the Right? | ||
You think that's Shapiro? | ||
It's not Ayan. | ||
That's very nice of you to say about Majid. | ||
I would say he is a liberal, but I guess maybe you were referring to the fact | ||
that he's in the UK, or he's in Britain, and I'm here. | ||
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So on that point, who will become the Dave Rubin Reformer of the Right? | |
Who will become the Dave Rubin Reformer of the Right? | ||
You think Ben Shapiro? | ||
Is that what he's trying to do? | ||
Yeah, I think it's possibly Ben Shapiro or Crowder, which is why I like both of them. | ||
Like someone that's really trying to bridge some ground. | ||
I don't know, I don't see Ben, and I'll discuss this with him later, so this is nothing I wouldn't say in front of him. | ||
I don't see him trying to build bridges in a certain way that I'm trying to build bridges. | ||
He's really trying to fight for the principles that he believes in of conservatism. | ||
Crowder maybe a little bit more. | ||
And I'm sure there's some people that I'm not aware of that are doing the same thing. | ||
But look, it's hard to say because there's so much in flux right now. | ||
The labels don't mean as much anymore. | ||
You're a liberal, you're a conservative, you're on the right, you're on the left, you're a Democrat. | ||
The labels just don't mean that much anymore. | ||
So because of that, It's hard to say, but I'll keep working on those guys, because I think I can show them that for a lot of reasons that they're conservative are the same reasons that I'm liberal these days. | ||
Because defending my liberal principles is becoming a conservative position. | ||
That's not something that I want to say as a liberal, but that's true. | ||
The left is not defending my liberal principles of free speech and the rights of the individual and open dialogue. | ||
That's not what the left is about these days. | ||
It happens to be what the conservatives are about at the moment because they're on the other side. | ||
But if they were in power, would they be for, you know, promoting free speech for liberals? | ||
Maybe not. | ||
Maybe not. | ||
But at the moment, I have some interesting allies and it's actually kind of cool. | ||
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What time are you actually on Crowder? | |
Okay, I'm on Crowder at 6. | ||
Okay, so this is... What's that? | ||
All right, so I'll be on with Crowder in about four minutes over on his channel. | ||
It's called Louder with Crowder on YouTube, so just pop it in there. | ||
It's YouTube slash Steven Crowder, and then after that I have like a 20 minute break or something, I gotta get to the studio and then I'll be over with Shapiro and company. | ||
Anyway, so I'll just give you my final thoughts here. | ||
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And that's in the Daily Wire. | |
And that's over with the Daily Wire. | ||
So I'm asking one last question or you just wanna go? | ||
Yeah, one last question and then I'll wrap up. | ||
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Will you be excited if Gary Johnson gets 5% given the Libertarian Party federal funds for the next election? | |
Well, I'd be excited if Gary Johnson gets 5% because then they get the funds for the next election. | ||
Yeah, let's get him to 5% so they get the funds. | ||
But he needed to be better than he was. | ||
This was a chance. | ||
That's why I've been so disappointed with him. | ||
People think I'm being irrationally hard on him. | ||
He needed to be better, to lay out libertarian principles cleanly and honestly and clearly. | ||
And have a better sense and command of the issues. | ||
That would have done so much good this time around. | ||
And unfortunately this won't happen. | ||
Anyway, my last thoughts here before we jump off. | ||
We got a long night ahead of us. | ||
This is really, really interesting. | ||
Ohio is now within 0.1%. | ||
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Jesus! | |
Florida has that one and a half percent for Trump. | ||
So we got a long night ahead of us. | ||
Look, no matter what happens, so this is my final thought on this for now, but I'll probably jump, I may do another one of these later when I get back if this thing's going late tonight. | ||
My final thought is we're all Americans tomorrow. | ||
For any of us that are Americans right now, we're still going to be Americans tomorrow. | ||
Let's not kill each other. | ||
Let's just remember politics should only be a part of our life, not all of our life. | ||
That's why I talk about role of government all the time. | ||
These people are not our kings and queens. | ||
They have to facilitate the society functioning, but it's much more important that we can live our lives | ||
the way we think is right, and do what we think is best for ourselves | ||
and our families and our communities and stuff like that. | ||
Anyway, it's an exciting night. | ||
The next poll is closing in two minutes. | ||
I'm just gonna end it now. | ||
So I have one minute to maybe scarf down a slice of pizza, take a leak, and have fun everybody. | ||
Thanks for watching. | ||
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The link to our poll will be right down there. | |
Oh, and by the way, we're gonna do a live wrap up tomorrow. | ||
So even if this thing's going into tomorrow or it ends tonight or whatever, we'll do a live wrap-up tomorrow and keep it going. | ||
So thanks for watching, and hey, I hope whoever you want to win wins. |