Aug. 31, 2016 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| Suddenly it seems the entire country is talking about the alt-right, so | ||
| I guess it's our turn as well. | ||
| For those of you who are attuned to the wacky, wild underside of the internet, you know that the alt-right has existed for a couple years now, but it's only in the last few days that the mainstream has started talking about it. | ||
| Last week, Hillary Clinton attacked the alt-right in a big speech, which led to coverage in every newspaper and online outlet across the globe. | ||
| Hillary blamed Breitbart.com for mainstreaming racism, which she said was proven by Trump's embrace of the alt-right. | ||
| CNN and Fox News both aired clips from the Rubin Report in which Milo Yiannopoulos talked about the alt-right, explaining it as a counterculture movement uniting disaffected conservatives with mischievous internet meme makers. | ||
| The usual pundits suddenly were all experts on the alt-right, even though they didn't know what it was while it was growing right before their eyes this whole time. | ||
| Our outrage culture always needs some new outrage to be outraged about, and once Hillary mentioned the alt-right by name, it meant the movement had officially arrived. | ||
| The alt-right seems to take many different forms, depending on who you talk to. | ||
| Mainstream media, and pretty much the entire left, brand the alt-right as a white supremacist movement rallying around Donald Trump. | ||
| Their members hate blacks, they hate Jews, they hate Hispanics, and they want some sort of racially pure country to stop white genocide. | ||
| Mainstream Republicans see the alt-right as a group of loud-mouthed, offensive racists who are tearing the conservative movement apart by throwing away traditional conservative ideals like small government and replacing them with a win-at-all-cost candidate. | ||
| Others say the alt-right is a grassroots movement born out of natural pushback to our increasingly political correct society. | ||
| I think if you mix some of those explanations together, you get what the alt-right really is. | ||
| But you have to add one more thing. | ||
| The internet. | ||
| The alt-right, whatever version of it you claim to be, was created right here on the internet. | ||
| And as something created by the internet, it is as amorphous as the internet itself. | ||
| What the alt-right really is, though, is a band of meme posters, anime avatars, and twitter eggs vying for attention from people in power. | ||
| They post Nazi memes, racist pictures, and offensive tweets with the express intent of getting powerful people to react, respond, and thus amplify their message. | ||
| They are keyboard warriors and professional trolls trying to get attention from the sold-out and corrupt media and political elite that we have. | ||
| The real alt-right isn't about one political ideology as much as it is a loosely linked group of people using the tools of the internet to upset the establishment. | ||
| Ironically, in some ways, this wrangling and mocking of the establishment is exactly what the Bernie revolution was supposed to be. | ||
| But while Hillary put Bernie's revolution on ice, she has now elevated the alt-right to mainstream status by giving a big speech about it. | ||
| The alt-right wants attention more than anything, and they trolled her into giving them exactly what they want. | ||
| Let me back up here for a sec because I don't want to gloss over that whole white supremacist, hate the blacks, hate the Jews, kick out the Hispanics thing. | ||
| This portion of the alt-right absolutely does exist. | ||
| I see it on Twitter every single day. | ||
| You can pause this video right now and find thousands of images, including Nazi imagery, | ||
| racist caricatures of minorities, and plenty more. | ||
| Do a quick search on Twitter, a scan on Reddit, or a look at 4chan and you'll see some pretty | ||
| nasty stuff. | ||
| I don't like it, but you guys know my policy on free speech and free expression, so I choose | ||
| to ignore these images and ideas rather than amplify them. | ||
| The real question though is, do these truly hateful racist memes and tweets represent | ||
| a real movement of hate, or are they designed just to get attention? | ||
| I think it's some combination of both. | ||
| Some true racists mixed with a bunch of people who just want to mess with those in power. | ||
| How many of each of them are there? | ||
| We have no idea. | ||
| What we do know, though, is that these people wield very little real world power. | ||
| Do white supremacists exist? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do black, Jew, and Hispanic haters exist? | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| Do some people want to keep immigrants out because of racism? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the people who make up the alt-right aren't the ones with the power. | ||
| Instead, they are the ones trying to upset the people in power. | ||
| And as for Donald Trump, he has blacks and Jews and Hispanics on his campaign staff. | ||
| This doesn't mean there aren't racist supporters of Trump. | ||
| Of course there are, just as there are racist supporters of Hillary and everyone else to ever run for president, ever. | ||
| Trump's blunt language, which has attacked almost every group out there, often blurring the line between being politically incorrect and truly hateful, is just an extension of the tactics that the alt-right keyboard warriors are doing on their own. | ||
| Personally, I think that the regressive left is more of a threat to our democracy than the alt-right. | ||
| The regressive left, with its tactics of stifling debate and silencing critics, has gained mainstream traction in our media and in our universities. | ||
| These regressive, not progressive, ideas have become all too common on the left, and they've actually given birth to the natural response, the alt-right. | ||
| I know this firsthand not only from the emails that you guys send me, but also from all the students at UCLA who came up to me after my event with Milo Yiannopoulos a couple months ago to tell me that they're supporting Trump just because they can't take the culture of fear around speech anymore. | ||
| The alt-right, with its Trump frogs and photoshopped pictures of sick Hillary, is little more than a bunch of guys in their basements using outrage culture against itself. | ||
| Most of us are not part of the regressive left or the alt-right. | ||
| This is precisely why we must talk about ideas honestly and not let the extremes on either side control the debate. | ||
| As I've said many times before, Trump's wall might not be sensible or sound policy, but a wall in and of itself is not racist. | ||
| If we refuse to have a conversation about immigration without yelling racist at everyone who disagrees with us, then we'll leave the conversation to anyone who comes up with an easy answer. | ||
| Trump's wall is the easy answer to a complex immigration problem, and it's one of the reasons that the alt-right loves him. | ||
| The alt-right is the organic result of a politically correct society that refuses to engage in ideas in an honest way. | ||
| That doesn't mean the alt-right is right. | ||
| It just means that they're here, and to demonize them without understanding them doesn't stop them. | ||
| It actually strengthens them. | ||
| My guest this week is Scott Adams. | ||
| Scott is the creator of the nationally syndicated comic strip Dilbert, as well as a proponent of Donald Trump's tactics. | ||
| I don't know if he considers himself part of the alt-right, but I would consider him part of it as someone who's using internet culture to spread his ideas during this insane election cycle. | ||
| We're going to dive into his feelings about Donald Trump and much more. | ||
| Will the alt-right Twitter Nazis make memes of us in Nazi costumes after the interview? |
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