Do you see the narrative shifting? We seamlessly went from years of covid tyranny to the Ukraine war. And now that the Ukraine war has been lost (with American taxpayers losing hundreds of billions of dollars) the narrative is shifting again; this time to Iran. This is how the U.S. has been bankrupted by endless war(s) for 100+ years. The senses of the American people are relentlessly bombarded, from every angle, in order to be enthusiastically led into the next major disaster.
Hello everybody and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today we have Chris Rossini, our co-host.
Chris, nice to have you here today.
It's great to be with you, Dr. Paul.
Good.
We're going to talk about one thing for sure that's in the news and that has to do with the potential or the early signs of what the foreign policy is going to be like in the next administration.
And there is going to be a next administration.
Somebody would like to think there's a real contest going on and other people would say the next administration is an opportunity for Trump to have his second chance at this.
But foreign policy is shifting.
They're talking about it.
And then with the resignation of the candidacy of Biden, this has opened up the doors.
And it's surprising.
Here they pick somebody that's less popular than Biden, but immediately there's some polling done.
Some of the polls, you know, Harris beats Trump.
So we'll see what happens.
But that's in the news that we want to visit in a few minutes about the foreign policy, what's going on right now.
But to open up, though, I wanted to talk a little bit about the economic policy because that's in flux too.
Some people like to think of economics separate from foreign policy and war, but it isn't.
It's all the one thing.
It's all the spending.
It's all the inflation.
I believe we're in a period of time, I would define it as stagflation.
We've talked about that off and on.
But there's a lot of things in this country that they hide, and they don't say, oh, that area, 30% of the people are in depression or something like that.
They say, yeah, but look at all the new jobs.
But they never tell you.
They're all government jobs.
And they don't mention the fact that the real wage has not gone up.
It has not kept up with inflation.
And that's traditional.
You know, if there's an inflation rate, a price inflation rate of 10%, and the wages for the working person gets an increase of 5%.
Used to be 5% increase in your wages, decent.
But if it's less than the inflation, it doesn't work very well.
I think that's what's happening because that is the big issue.
And they say, well, yeah, but the numbers aren't that bad.
Of course, there was one economic number today yesterday that came out in the one that the Fed watches.
And it said that, well, maybe it ticked up a little bit.
Maybe there is a little bit more inflation.
So they're arguing back that there is no bubble and the inflation we can control and all this.
It reminds me, though, of the history of the 1920s, because the stock market was booming.
And yet, yet prices weren't going up.
And people, there were some who anticipated the collapse of the bubble that was in the stock market.
And it did happen.
But what misled them at that time was the fact that They looked at that prices did not go up in an anomalous sense to make them worry about it because at that time there was a tremendous increase in productivity by technology and that kept the prices down.
So that affected prices, but it didn't stop the inflation.
The inflation is still pouring out and they were inflating in the 20s and finally the bubble burst and we entered into the depression.
So this is something there's a lot of manipulation with the Fed and with the government.
They'll say, oh, the inflation, the employment rates are not too bad.
It's improving.
But they might count only the government workers or concentrate on the government work.
Right now we live in an age where people become aware of the fact that governments lie quite frequently.
And they'll lie about these statistics too because the people in office and even the Federal Reserve contributes to it.
Lie, fib, mislead people and say that they're controlling things, everything is okay, because they're afraid that the people can't handle the truth.
And in a way, there's some truth to that, but the people who become knowledgeable about it recognize it and they have to defend themselves.
But it becomes very, very confusing to the average person on what's happening, and then they blame the wrong things.
They come in and blame price gouging, hurricanes, all these things.
COVID, that caused all the inflation.
Well, indirectly it contributed to it.
The prices did go up.
And the prices, when they go up, whether it's for war overseas or war here at home with COVID, when the deficits are run up, it is something the people want usually.
And that debt has to be monetized because they don't have any money in the bank.
The government's broke.
So they don't have any money.
And it's pretty tough raising taxes real fast.
But boy, they can print money real fast.
So it's bipartisan.
It happens all the time.
You hear two different stories.
But the thing of it is, the bottom line, the best thing for people to watch if they have this concern is what's happening to their purchasing power when they go to the grocery store.
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It's almost hard to figure out what it is.
It used to be millions and billions, but now it's into the trillions of dollars.
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But now I want to go with Chris and talk a little bit about our foreign policy and the shifting and the disagreements about the two parties and the people.
And there's all this argument going on.
But I'll start off by saying, just like inflation and spending, it's a bipartisan deal.
And that's why it'll be couched in different terms.
But if you're an interventionist on monetary policy and you're not willing to cut the spending, certain things are happening and both sides are guilty.
So one thing that I've not accepted is when the Republicans gang up on Biden, and he deserves plenty, but it has to be for the right thing because they said Biden caused all this inflation.
Well, when the Republicans were in charge, they inflated like crazy and ran up the debt, you know, horrendously.
And so you have to think of it more in terms of the deficits that are running.
But regulations can play a part.
You know, you can, like just in the 30s, prices were kept down because there was a free market in a lot of things and productivity kept prices down.
So regulations can aggravate it, but it's the spending and the debt that has to be very much concentrated on.
But now we have to try to sort out what Biden was doing, what Trump had done, and what Trump will likely do because he's likely going to be the next president.
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But who knows what happens in this world.
But it is in flux because they don't have an anchor.
They don't have something to tie themselves to.
The unit of account, I think the unit of account is so important, and we have that.
It was totally eliminated in 1971, and that's why this has been building, especially since 1971.
So, Chris, what do you think is going on here, and what do you think is going to happen?
Yeah, Dr. Paul.
Well, first we have to talk about how we got here.
We went from years of COVID tyranny, perhaps the biggest crime in the history of the world those years.
From years of that, seamlessly, we transitioned to this Ukraine conflict.
And all of a sudden, all the COVID went under the rug.
All the perpetrators that were on television, we know who all of them are, they scattered into the shadows, never to be seen again.
They were on TV telling you how you're going to die if you don't obey them, and then they're just gone.
And then everything was replaced with Ukraine flags.
There were Ukraine flags everywhere you looked on Twitter.
People were putting them next to their names.
I remember going to the airport, and the airport had big signs saying that we stand with Ukraine.
They were selling t-shirts.
And now here we are.
Hundreds of billions of dollars have been siphoned away that we could have used in our country.
They're gone.
Ukraine lost, you know, they really suffered the brunt of it.
We took a financial hit, but they lost half a million people.
Their country has been destroyed.
And now, you know, the writing is on the wall.
Trump, I saw him with Vance doing an interview, and he says, yeah, he goes, Russia beat Hitler.
He said, Russia beat Napoleon.
Yeah, he's stating the obvious, there was no chance, you know, for Ukraine.
But look at the lies.
We went from COVID lies to Ukraine has to beat Putin because he's going to conquer all of Europe.
All of it was a lie, too.
There was no chance, and now the reality is coming.
And now we're starting to see narrative shifts again.
Now we're shifting from Putin to everything is Iran.
Iran here, Iran, Iran, Iran.
And they're just seeding.
They're planting the seeds in everyone's mind for what?
Another war with Iran, which is by proxy Russia and China.
They're not going to let Iran go up in flames.
So we are very concerned about this narrative shift because this is how they sweep Ukraine under the rug by putting your attention on Iran.
And this is very dangerous.
You know, and one additional fact that once they do that, and they said bluntly, it said, you know, reduce our obligation in Ukraine because we have to change our position.
We have to worry about China and all these other places.
So they're looking for one, and they're looking to Iran.
But there's been a concerted effort to get to Iran, China, Russia.
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There's always an enemy out there, and that's part of the system.
But, you know, the founders, one of my big, big beef is that, you know, how we go to war.
We carelessly go to war, how to stop a war.
Just think about what Chris was just telling us about, the disaster in Iran.
And then they say, oh, well, that's not a war.
That's a police action.
That's the way it started back when Truman got us in the control in Korea.
They didn't want to say it was a war because the Constitution has something to say about that.
It should be only pursued with the consent of the people by a vote in the Congress.
Well, that's when they decided that these aren't wars.
These are just police actions.
And this is just our moral obligation to restore order.
And they don't tell you what disorder they actually end up with.
And so it's the way we, the founders knew about this, how important it was about keeping out of war.
And that's why they made it where the people had to have a vote through the Congress.
But the wars pursue anyway.
So that's a big deal, the fact that we have all these wars.
And, you know, you end up with things like Afghanistan, 20 years of it, and Iraq, and just go on and on, Syria.
We still have troops in Syria.
It just goes on forever.
But then the other thing is the people get tired of paying for this, and they're unable to because it will exhaust the nation.
Now, we still look like we're very prosperous, and we are.
We still have a lot of wealth, but it's on borrowed money.
Every individual in this country could have a really high lifestyle if everybody got a million dollars a month for six months, and then it would all collapse or something like that.
So, yes, it looks like we still have a lot of wealth, and we're living off that, and that's always being threatened through inflation.
But if we had a sound monetary system, which the founders gave us, it would be very difficult to fight all these wars.
And we'll have to quit all empires end by stretching themselves too far outside of the perimeter, and they go broke, and then they have to pull back on their empire.
But the other thing is the founders did not institute a military draft.
You know, that's excluded, and they fought over in 1812.
They were fighting over drafts coming up.
But now we're back at it.
We just had an automatic drafting record register everybody who was 18 years of age.
So what are they planning this for?
You know, it was a draft.
There was registration for 18-year-olds, but if you didn't go, it wasn't enforced and that sort of thing.
But now there is an emphasis.
I think in order to make this point, what would it be like if we said we can't go to war unless the people who would have to fight would decide.
The 18-year-olds between 18 and 25, let them vote once them to go to war.
Because I am convinced the people who suffer through this, yes, there's a few warmongers and they love the atmosphere of war, but most of them, especially in Vietnam, did everything in the world to try to avoid that.
But it had to do with the draft, and the draft is a violation of liberty.
But if we allowed them to vote, I would say we'd have less wars.
I've argued the case that it isn't like young people in one country from 18 to 25 get together with the young people in Russia or China and say, hey, you know, let's have a war.
Things are dull.
There's boring.
Let's really have a war.
I bet it's lots of fun.
But then they're the ones who suffer, they suffer.
And who suffers the financial?
People get rich over wars, like the military-industrial complex.
But there's a lot of people who get poor.
Well, the one who really suffers are the people who suffer injury and death from the illegal wars.
But if they look for the cost, who's paying this?
It's again, it's the middle class.
The very thing that's going on right now, the number one issue is the cost of living.
And the cost of living is really based on both welfare at home, welfare abroad, and militarism and all this.
But what if we just cut it out of the military?
As people say, well, we wouldn't be safe.
We wouldn't be safe.
Well, I don't think we're very safe now.
I mean, we can't even protect a presidential candidate.
And they're there, hundreds and hundreds of people and millions of dollars.
And governments can't really protect us.
And that's their whole goal, is to protect us economically and socially and all the other things and make sure we get a good education and we have perfect medicine.
This is not the case.
So we can't have that much dependency, you know, on the government taking care of us.
That's an excellent point, Dr. Paul, you know, that they can't even protect the president.
And yet, as you mentioned, we have bases in Iraq, in Syria.
Why are my countrymen over in Iraq and Syria?
That's not the United States.
You're not defending us out there.
And I'm not blaming them.
They're sent there.
But they don't belong there.
And this week, we saw that they're being attacked at those bases.
They're sitting ducks out there.
They're needlessly placed in danger.
They should be here in America defending America.
So there's these tripwires for war because guess what?
Something happens out there.
They can say, oh, we have to go to war out there in order to avenge this.
But they don't belong out there.
They are placed in danger.
Their lives are valuable.
They don't belong in danger.
And also, we have this last week, some protesters, who knows who, was spraying painting on Hamas, on statues, and burning a flag.
And all of a sudden, conservatives are losing their mind and they're talking about Iran.
You know, this is what I mean.
This narrative shift to Iran.
These are psychological events to get people enthusiastic about yet another war.
And this is how it works.
Unfortunately, the people that want to drag us into war, they are very experienced at this.
This is not anything new.
Herman Göring was a Nazi military leader at Nuremberg.
He confessed, he said, naturally, the common people don't want war.
But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine policy.
And it's always a simple matter to drag people into war.
And he said, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
He said, that is easy.
And Joseph Goebbels, the propaganda of the Nazis, he said, think of the press as a great keyboard that the government can play.
I mean, is that not our press?
It is a propaganda keyboard that the government plays.
And if they want Ukraine, they'll just bombard you with Ukraine.
You'll see it everywhere you look.
And if they want Iran, they're going to bombard you from every single angle to get you to at least, even if you don't protest against it, it's just, all right, whatever, go along with it.
They don't need your full-throated support, just enough to where you don't protest against it and you're not against it.
So this is the opposition that we face.
They're very good at this.
They've succeeded many times.
But, you know, a war with Iran is not going to be like any of the other wars we've had.
This is a serious enemy that has serious backers that can defeat us.
And that's, you know, we should always be mindful of that.
Very good.
You know, there's a lot of activity going on in demonstrations here in a discussion of foreign policy with Biden and Harris and Trump.
Everybody's wondering about what will come.
But they're trying to deal with, you know, the conflict that Democrats have to deal with mostly.
And that is the traditional foreign policy that the Democrats wanted with really negligence of the Palestinians and token support for Israel.
But now all of a sudden with this war lingering on, there are some people, you know, that argue the case that Palestinians have a right to demonstrate and make these points.
And I'd be in that category.
I think some of the things are going there would annoy me if I was a Palestinian and my property was taken from me.
But what happened, though, is that the rhetoric grew and grew and grew and the hatred grew and the killing kept growing.
So what we had was other groups joining in.
So let's say there are some people in this country that are Palestinian oriented and are supportive of Palestine.
They all of a sudden found out that they were getting support from really bad people.
And I think just like here at home, the cultural Marxists move into cultural and economic problems here to move, bring on the chaos.
That's how we're going to get Marxism in here.
And I think this is what's happened out there because some people will be sympathetic to the demonstrations and protection of civil liberties of those who want to demonstrate, you know, I guess what's happening in the Middle East.
At the same time, all of a sudden it gets really, really violent.
And some of the things just went on this weekend.
And I think what happens is the demonstrators, well motivated and maybe the majority, will be invaded and some people will take advantage of it to join in.
They have their griefs too, but their griefs might be much more serious and more targeted at the permanent chaos in this country so they can usher in a new age of terrorism.
Excellent, Dr. Paul.
I'll finish up with my closing thoughts.
We need to take care of America and America only, and we need this very badly.
Otherwise, this philosophy that we've been following, this empire, it's going to lead us to total bankruptcy and perhaps devastating and finishing war.
I mean, that's what we're actually faced with, whether we realize it or not.
And we better hope, you know, assuming he wins, that President Trump does not want this.
I don't think he wants war with Russia and China.
That's just my thought.
I don't know him.
Only he knows what's in his mind and in his heart.
And a war with Iran would bring that.
So we better hope that President Trump does not want war with Iran.
Our country is nothing like it was back in World War II when we were victorious.
All of the advantages are gone.
We had all the gold at that time.
Today, Russia and China are up to their eyeballs in gold.
We manufacture nothing.
China manufactures everything.
We were an actual creditor nation.
We were the creditor of the world.
And today we are 35 trillion in debt.
And we had the dollar reserve, and country after country are ditching the dollar.
They're going with their local currencies, trading with Russia and China in their own currencies.
We are in zero position to get into any type of world war.
We need to rebuild what has been destroyed in this country.
And, you know, when you looked at Congress the other day, when they gave all those standing ovations, I read that they gave more standing ovations to Netanyahu than Kim Jong-un receives in his own country.
That's how many they gave him.
Now, there were no U.S. troops sent to Ukraine, thank God.
Despite all the devastation, I feel so bad for the Ukrainians.
American troops were not sent there.
But if we're called to get into a war with Iran for Israel, do you think our Congress is going to say no to a draft or to sending troops to that war?
You better think about it hard and look at how they are.
Do you think they would send Americans for Israel out there?
It's very possible.
This is a great danger that we are facing.
And it all really hinges, again, assuming that he wins, on where Trump's mind and where his heart lies.
Very good, Chris.
And I hope our viewers take note of your warning because it's very appropriate.
You know, the whole idea of America First is very, very attractive.
But I think at times it could get very distorted.
The enemy that does not want, let's say, America First does emphasize, you know, less war and minding our own business and not empire.
There's some people who don't want that to happen, so they have to distort the whole principle of thinking in those terms because if they do this, they have to destroy the principles because there was a time when America First meant promoting liberty and independence and taking care of ourselves and staying out of wars.
And that was very important.
But the other thing that happens is they turn around and make it say, like, you guys that want the non-intervention and you don't want these wars, you're a bunch of isolationists, and you're the ones that made us weaken.
You're the ones who caused World War II.
And on and on they do this, but they're just demagogues for it.
But I like the notion because it's never been perfect, but it's been involved with America First.
America First should be, because in our early history, we were looked up to because it was unique and it was different.
Our Constitution was very unique and different.
And I think America First is in the presentation and examples and setting the standards for what a free society ought to be.
It was never perfect.
The Constitution is not perfect.
But it did represent a serious and significant improvement on the thinking of what government should be like.
And if we thought more in promoting becoming first in the world, America First, in the presentation of liberty, it would be a lot different because we have to refute the people that come along, a bunch of isolationists.
And yet, I see non-intervention as the opposite of isolation because you're friends with people, you trade with people, you don't cheat people with a bad monetary system, you don't use force to take countries and pretend that we can protect everybody.
So it's quite a bit different.
And the definition of American First and their intent is very important.
But the many who still believe in it and the origination of it was mainly motivated to promote the goodness of America.