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April 25, 2023 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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What's Your Theory About Tucker's Firing?

Was it criticism of the Ukraine war? Jan. 6th skepticism? Pharma skepticism? Too many Democrat guests? What triggered Fox execs to fire America's top-viewed newscaster? Also today: US warships near Sudan - looking for a nice little intervention? Finally: Biden tosses his hat back into the ring for 2024 - what's Trump's reaction? Was it criticism of the Ukraine war? Jan. 6th skepticism? Pharma skepticism? Too many Democrat guests? What triggered Fox execs to fire America's top-viewed newscaster? Also today: US warships near Sudan - looking for a nice little intervention? Finally: Biden tosses his hat back into the ring for 2024 - what's Trump's reaction?

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Tucker's Media Presence 00:14:47
Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today is Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you this morning.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you this morning?
Doing well.
Trying to catch up and seeing what Tucker's doing this morning.
He might be playing golf or something like that.
But he doesn't look like the one that's going to be sitting around.
He hasn't been, but, you know, there's a lot of talk about him.
He hasn't gone away.
He's not out of the media.
He's in the media more than ever.
And a lot of people today, after that sudden announcement yesterday that caught us about two minutes before the opening of our program, but today everybody's talking about what does it mean?
Why did he get fired?
Was he really fired?
What's he going to do?
And some people think maybe he's going to run for president.
And under the circumstances, if he ran for president today, he'd probably do pretty well.
At least it would get out a lot of conservatives and independents, independent-minded people.
But he also got a type of endorsement from Robert Kennedy.
Robert Kennedy liked this, just because he wants independent thinking.
He doesn't want people to be rolling over.
And who knows, that might have been the number one reason why Tucker got put out.
He was too independent.
And he did have some super programs on.
And that his position, you know, on the various issues was the main reason.
I could see where Robert Kennedy would be sympathetic with that when you think about his family and the history in the 1960s because the Kennedys and others stood firm on the issue of anti-war and Vietnam.
And, of course, Tucker's position is not exactly with us on it, but he was willing to speak out, you know, and be independent-minded and doing his best.
That's one thing.
People think that if you don't go along with it, then you have to take another stand and you're absolutely closed-minded on everything.
But no, Tucker did have a different position, but he did some good exposure.
And I would think that he contributed a lot of good with the debate or the shouting and argument over COVID.
So that was the thing.
But anyway, I think the discussion about Tucker is going to go on for a while.
It's not going to have an announcement tomorrow.
It's over now, folks.
We're not going to be talking about it.
One little thing that I had, and I don't put much credence to this little item that I have, is, you know, I'm always looking for distraction.
Foreign policies, there's always a distraction.
Why are they doing this in order to do this when you're not looking at it?
But, you know, the biggest thing in this last week or two is the breaking news and the exposure of Hunter Biden.
And I thought, wow, I never expected that to happen.
But all of a sudden, at least Tucker was able to erase all that negative stuff coming out.
But the reason that theory probably won't hold much water is because I think it's been broken, the story.
I think too many people now have maybe are leaning toward changing their mind and say, hey, we might have, some of the media have done that too.
So that's a sign that that means that truth may be breaking out on that issue.
And the fascinating thing, I mean, caught everyone by surprise.
I remember yesterday we were just ready to start the show, and you ran into the studio saying, Did you hear about Tucker?
I mean, that's probably America, you know, the entire country at the time.
Taken by surprise, I think when he finished the show on Friday, he finished it by saying, That's all, folks.
I'll see you on Monday.
And apparently, on Monday morning, they were starting to do the show.
Nobody knew what was happening.
And so, of course, that has spawned a lot of theories, and we like theories.
Why did he have to go?
You know, was it which may be something that we believe?
Was it because he was so open to having so many Democrats?
Our friend Glenn Greenwald was on all the time.
Jimmy Doerr was on.
RFK was on.
He wasn't, you know, where you plug your brain into your R or D channel and that's all you get.
You know, he was open to a lot of different ideas.
That may have been it.
And that's why, in fact, someone, I don't remember who it was, but someone tweeted yesterday that more registered Democrats watched Tucker's show than watched the entire CNN network.
And because everyone says, well, Tucker was so divisive.
And this is what the person, I don't forget who it was on Twitter.
Everyone says, oh, Tucker was so divisive.
He pulled in more Democrat watchers, viewers, and all of CNN.
So it couldn't have been that.
We both looked at an article written by Michael Snyder for the end of the American Dream blog, and we caught it on Zero Hedge.
But he's got five theories of why he might have been fired.
The first one, the Dominion lawsuit.
I don't know a ton about that, but apparently a big payout.
That could have been it.
The other one is Big Pharma.
And actually, let's put on that first clip because this is the article we're talking about from Michael Snyder.
Five theories that are swirling the internet about why Fox News fired Tucker Carlson.
We can actually skip ahead to the next one.
The New York Times has its theory.
But here's what RFK said, Dr. Paul, since you opened with talking about him.
And this is a very interesting theory, and this is Snyder's number two theory: Big Pharma.
RFK tweeted out yesterday, Fox fires Tucker Carlson five days after he crosses the red line by acknowledging that the TV networks pushed a deadly and ineffective vaccine to please their pharma advertisers.
Carlson's breathtakingly courageous April 19th monologue broke TV's two biggest rules.
Tucker told the truth about how greedy pharma advertisers controlled TV news content and he lambasted obsequious newscasters for promoting jabs they knew to be lethal and worthless.
For many years, Tucker's had the nation's biggest audience, averaging 3.5 million, ten times the size of CNN.
Fox just demonstrated the terrifying power of big pharma.
What do you make of RFK's theory?
But the amazing thing is Fox was making a lot of money off this, so there's other motivations too.
But you know, I think what Tucker was into in the general sense was the attack on corporatism.
The corporatism that existed and pharma was part of it.
And I think that's why Robert Kennedy would have been so supportive, you know, of Tucker, what he was doing.
But on January, the same principle on January 6th, that was another item that was brought up in this article.
January 6th, this is a big deal because I think that's so high on the agenda for the Democrats.
I listened to some of the Democrats that lean toward trying to be fair-minded, but they are absolutely determined that you can't drop the word insurrection.
Everything depends on that.
They have put so much energy into this.
And even if you just ask a question, so they really detested the exposure that Tucker was giving to what was really going on.
When he released some of those films and all, and they had to live with that lie because that's the only thing they had to lead into, why the Republicans are so radical and evil and ready to take over.
But like the election on the details of the elections and what was going on with the briefcase and all and the lion they did.
No, that doesn't even deserve any attention.
But it looks like the people may be waking up on it.
Yeah, I think that could be a good point because Tucker was very good on the insurrection of January 6th.
He got the videos.
He showed the videos.
He demonstrated very, very clearly that it was not what the Democrats were saying.
But that's their narrative.
That's all they have.
Are they going to run on jobs?
Are they going to run on more freedom?
Are they going to run on no wars?
No.
The only thing they have, and actually when we talk about the election later, I'll show you, you probably have seen it, but Biden's announcement.
It's all about the evil Republicans.
So that's all they have.
So absent that narrative, and Tucker did more than anyone in America, I think, to blow that narrative apart.
The problem is now there was a real insurrection.
You wrote about it this week too, but it was Blinken and Sullivan colluding with the CIA to make sure that Biden gets back in office.
That was a real insurrection, but it was a white-collar insurrection.
It wasn't these truck drivers and people with buffalo heads on.
It was very neat and orderly.
But that may have been it.
That may have been his undoing, you know.
Well, why don't we go to the rest of those five there, the Dominion?
You mentioned Dominion, and I think that's fuzzy.
I agree.
I don't think that was the main reason.
But it does introduce the notion of how the company is run.
And they consider this so different because it isn't just money or they win for Tucker.
And it's unique.
And then the sons are in there.
And what is it, Lachlan?
Yeah, who now looks like he's the boss, but I doubt if he does much without his dad knowing what was going on.
And that is interesting because that company was being run differently.
And maybe the bottom line wasn't the whole thing.
But it could easily be when you lose a case, it's what's three-quarters of a billion dollars?
It's not chicken feed.
It was run differently, but I don't know how relevant that is now.
They did it.
It's their company.
We want to understand it.
But I don't think that gives us all the answer.
My gut feeling is that it had more to do with a bigger part of the deep state saying this guy's taking on the pharma.
He's taking on the military-industrial complex.
It's taking on the medical industrial complex.
I mean, all of these things, this is big time.
And the foreign policy, I think that would be, even though he's not quite there with us on all the foreign policy and things, but he was, you know, when we talk about the war, you know, and right now we're going to talk a minute about where they look like they need a backup in case the war ends in Ukraine.
We happen to have another one to go to.
Well, the other one, I think the last one that Snyder wrote about is running for president.
He's actually wanted to leave himself because he wants to run in 2024.
And I agree with Snyder.
He says, people talk about this, but I really don't think this is the reason.
And I think that's right.
A, it's too late.
He hasn't run for office before.
Now, someone tweeted back to me saying maybe he's going to run for Congress.
I said, that'd be a disaster because he's got the biggest perch in the entire country.
Why would he be just a member of Congress?
One of 435 was no say.
So political ambitions, I don't know, it's a possibility.
What do you think?
I don't think he's going to run.
And I think your points are right because he becomes a smaller person and a big, you know, a smaller fish in the ocean up there.
He's king.
He's a kingpin.
But right now, even the people who become jealous, just like Trump, everybody, I guess, in politics, they can find something that they can build up or they lie about it.
So once Trump had a success, they had to destroy him.
And it was mainly because I think they became jealous of him.
And so they have to do it.
And it turns into hatred.
So right now, I can see that people are worried.
What is he going to do?
Because he's a powerhouse.
He has a lot of options.
And I think that's why they're talking about it.
And I think there'll be more and more things going on which will try to change his image because his image was only put out there by libertarians and conservatives.
And the far left wasn't trying to crucify him.
I think there's going to be more of that.
It does make you wonder what's the future of cable news because with Tucker gone, I mean, most people went to, there was a joke around the only reason Hannity had anyone watching his show is that people who put on Tucker and just forgot to turn the TV off.
That may be the case, but you have to wonder what is the future of cable news now, especially with the rise of platforms like Rumble and Substack, where people are striking out on their own.
Now we notice, I know you watch the stocks a lot more closely than I do, but they lost a billion dollars yesterday, Fox did, when they got rid of Tucker.
So, you know, who knows, people are going to speak.
The one thing that I saw that's funny, and I didn't talk to you about this before, but someone, and I forget who it was again, made the point, because CNN is in the tank.
Even he had to get rid of Don Lemon, the guys that said, well, whatever.
So the funny theory is that maybe CNN will pick up Tucker and he'll resurrect the network and put it back on top.
That would be funny to see.
If money was the only issue, he'd say, oh, I'll show those guys.
I'll show that Fox program.
It would be funny.
Yeah, let's do one last thing on this Tucker because I think Glenn Greenwald, who has been on the show a lot, he was great on Tucker, a progressive with an open mind, and I would say Tucker is a conservative with an open mind.
Here's what Tucker tweeted out yesterday, and it's a very good point.
There are few people in the media who have their own independent following loyal to them.
Tucker is one of them.
If he goes to an independent platform, his audience will be even bigger and his voice more influential.
Fox needed Tucker way more than Tucker needed Fox.
Interesting.
So this is one thing.
We have a lot of complaints on how social media works and how biased the mainstream media is.
But, you know, there's a certain amount of liberty that you need where you can speak out.
That's why I always say you have to have the First Amendment so you can compete.
but it's also the reason why they're attacking people and arresting people and punishing people when people have become more cautious.
But I think as long as you have that tool of being able to speak out, you can.
China's Investment in Sudan 00:08:40
And we get frustrated at times.
You know, our audience is small and they don't care, you know, and there's too much apathy.
But that's the activity in a libertarian approach.
You have to be willing to persuade people.
You can't resort.
Now, Jefferson, Jefferson probably would lean toward using force a little bit sooner than I did.
He says, when it gets corrupt, that's the only thing he can do is get rid of him.
But I think, of course, Jefferson contributed a lot in the philosophic approach to it, too.
But it was amazing how the founders were sort of pessimistic.
This is a good thing we're doing, but will it last?
And unfortunately, well, fortunately, they don't have to sit around and watch what we did to we as that doesn't include you and me.
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Now, Dr. Paul, the next one, you hinted a little bit about this, and that is Sudan.
And I don't think either of us is prepared to take on the complexities of what's happening there.
I did a shallow dive, not a deep dive, but I think we can make some observations and put on that next clip because this is, I think, what first got our attention.
And this is from our good friend Dave DeCamp at anti-war.
U.S. ships and drones positioned near Sudan to help fleeing U.S. citizens.
I don't know about you, Dr. Paul, but when they say we're going to bring some warships to help, I start getting a little bit nervous.
You know, Special Forces, I think, have been moved in there.
The CIA, probably they're the biggest cheerleaders and the first ones on board to go into these.
But no, this, and it, you know, we complain because we don't think people know about exactly where Ukraine is located and what we're doing there.
But this is even more remote, except for the fact, guess what?
There's a lot of American dollars there investment by China.
Yeah.
The Chinese got our dollars.
Because we, even under today's circumstances, all the sanctions and everything, we still end up buying stuff from China.
And it just begalls me to think that they're almost falling into the trap of becoming capitalists, you know, taking their money.
Instead of buying bombs, they buy their own.
They want to defend their country.
But we're the big guys in all the weaponry we sell.
And so we're over there now.
Yeah, we're in.
How much are we going to invest so far?
How much have we invested so far?
So compare that to how much has China invested in mining or oil or something like that.
And in these last few years, they have sort of spread their wings.
And people instead of looking at, well, could we have caused any trouble?
Like, could it have ever been such a thing, this crazy idea about blowback?
It's blowing back now on our dollar.
Yeah.
You know, because we have not been frugal in that sense.
We go over and think we can tell them what to do, but we're prepared.
I keep thinking, you always have to be prepared.
Well, Ukraine, you know, there's been these hints, we reported on it, about Ukraine.
Ukraine might have to admit that they can't win the war and they can't, you know, go back and chase Russia away.
Yeah.
That NATO, that NATO didn't fulfill their promises.
So now they are looking for something just in case.
So, but it's just, it's just so, to me, it becomes bewildering.
Why do they do this?
Then I answer my own question.
And I think of stupidity, I think of philosophy, and I think about long-term plans to get a lot of activity in the military-industrial complex.
And also, chaos brings changes, and some people want to change in a direction directly opposite of what we would like.
Yeah.
Well, I've been following Sudan, and not extremely closely, but since I worked for you on Capitol Hill, because you remember back then that the big thing was free d'Arfur, Free Darfur, we've got to save these people because Sudan was governed by a president that didn't bow down to the U.S., Bashir, his name was.
Interestingly, he left.
He just broke out of prison.
So what the U.S. did with some allies is it basically cut Sudan apart and created South Sudan.
That's the one that had all the oil, and we put our guy in there.
So that's what happened then.
So I was watching that way back then.
You know, one of my conspiracy theories is that if, as you suggested earlier on, we already know that the administration is not expecting the Ukraine counteroffensive to be that effective.
If that happens and the U.S. realizes we bit off more than we can chew, maybe a nice little war in Sudan might, you know, appease, you know, take people's attention away.
But I do want to put this up, and this is making the rounds on Twitter.
I can't vouch for all these dates, I have to admit, but I do find it fascinating if you follow the timeline of U.S. interventionism.
There's something that's going to ring true to you.
So August 24th, 2022, U.S. Ambassador appointed to Sudan for the first time in 25 years, 25-year lapse.
Then in September, the next month, U.S. Ambassador warns Sudan against finalizing Russian naval base deal.
Move up to November 11th, 2022.
Blinken urges Sudan to consider U.S. support for the rapid formation of a civilian-led transitional government.
So already trying to change the government there.
December 6th, December 5th, 2022, UN brokers a framework agreement between Sudan's military leaders and leading pro-democracy parties.
December 7th, 2022, Blinken threatens travel ban for Sudanese who endanger the framework agreement deal.
February 12th, 2023, Sudan confirms deal for Russian naval base.
Key players, Lavrov and Burnham.
February 16th, 2023, Biden administration sends $288 million in humanitarian aid to Sudan.
The next month, March 9th of this year, this is the one that's going to get you, Dr. Paul.
Victoria Newland visits Sudan to, quote, discuss democracy.
That's just last month.
Then March 9th, a conflict escalates between Sudanese armed forces under General Bernan and paramilitary group RSF under DeGallo.
That's April 8th.
April 22nd, a couple of days ago, U.S. evacuates Sudan.
Everywhere Victoria Newland goes, chaos follows.
So I just wonder what's going on here.
You sign a deal for the Russians to build a naval base, your government gets overthrown.
I wonder if Pelosi went with her on that trip.
Their secret weapon to smooth things out The American people always improving on our freedoms.
So that's that's I guess what the conclusion is is we'll probably hear more about Sudan.
Joe Biden's Announcement 00:05:38
Yeah, yeah.
Because we always have to be prepared.
We don't want to have our military sitting around not doing anything.
Of course, a lot of them are doing stuff, but they're not doing the right things.
A lot of disappointment about the readiness of our military.
Not that we want to have an aggressive military, but we do want one that functions properly.
Matter of fact, one that can do their job and act with restraint and compassion and a little bit of common sense is what the military should be all about rather than protecting oil.
You already mentioned, oh, Sudan has a little bit of oil.
So it's just like the division of Syria.
Syria, yeah.
We've got to go for the oil.
There's a little oil in the Middle East.
Yeah, that we're going to have a little touch of it, yeah.
Well, before we finish up, we do want to comment a little bit on the big announcement.
President Biden, he's going to run again.
He's raring to go, apparently.
And I had a couple clips I wanted to play, Dr. Paul.
The first one is Biden's announcement.
I'm just going to play the beginning of it because, as I hinted early on, this says a lot about where he's going to go.
Look at the images that he starts with.
If we can play that first, here's Biden's announcement.
Now, he didn't do it live.
He just made a video.
Maybe it's a Tick Tock.
Freedom.
Personal freedom is fundamental to who we are as Americans.
There's nothing more important, nothing more sacred.
That's been the work of my first term to fight for our democracy.
This shouldn't be.
So I just thought those images.
January 6th, tear gas.
It's an interesting.
When he says these nice words, it just really turns me off.
It makes me want to ever say those same words again.
But you know what I learned, and I hope that this is very positive, is that an audience, if you, because somebody did told me once.
Joe Biden is such amazed at that because in the debates, every once in a while he issued the Constitution came up.
And afterwards, some young people came up to me and they were very supportive.
And I said, why are you supportive?
Because we like what you're saying about the Constitution.
I said, yeah, but so-and-so was next to me.
He followed up.
He said the same thing.
And the kids said, yeah, but we didn't believe them.
Yeah, exactly.
So maybe that's what happened.
So there is, I think that is a common trait.
I think people see through it.
And almost always, you don't even have to have much explanation.
You don't have to listen too long.
Oh, I'm a politician from Washington.
All of a sudden, you're on the defensive on what you do.
But you do have, you do, but it's good because if you get a Thomas Massey talking, all of a sudden, you know, he's leveling with it.
You don't have to worry one bit.
It doesn't mean he has perfect answers.
It means that he is not going to deliberately lie to you.
Not talk about talking points.
Yeah.
Well, I also wanted to put on Trump's reaction to it because it does make me think, I was kind of, I liked when Trump ran against Hillary because I think it was just funny.
I didn't, you know, we were very critical of Trump, but that was a fun.
I think this might be a precursor to a funny campaign.
Let's put on Trump.
I forget how many seconds I wanted to play this, but let's listen to Trump's reaction to the imminent announcement from Biden of a re-election.
Joe Biden is said to be on the verge of declaring tomorrow, maybe.
Do you think that's really going to happen?
And if it does in your gut, do you think he's actually going to be the nominee of the Democrat Party?
It seems hard to believe.
And I'm not speaking from any standpoint other than I watch him like everybody else watches him.
And it certainly seems hard to believe.
It seemed hard to believe four years ago, but he was in the basement.
And now they're actually doing a tape of the announcement.
He's not going to make the announcement.
You know, normally you get up and you say, hey, I'm running.
And wish me luck, everybody.
But he's doing a tape.
This way he can do it four or five times so he gets it right.
But, you know, I don't think a thing like that's ever been done to put it on tape.
But it would seem to me that way he gets to do it four or five times again.
You know, he did that so differently.
He was much more sincere.
He wasn't bombastic, but he was stating something very factual, you know.
And, no, I thought he needs more of the tone that he used there because he says the same thing.
But if you, if you get to the, people get tired of it, especially the ones you're trying that are on the margin.
I mean, the hardcore, they like it and like to hear it.
But the people who are on the margin want to look at him.
I think he sounds like a reasonable person.
And a little funny, too.
You have to have some humor in the whole thing.
Well, anyway, I'm just going to close again.
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Crowds And Conviction 00:01:58
We've got to be among like-minded people.
I think, you know, it recharges our batteries.
So over to you, Dr. Paul.
Very good.
And I want to thank all our viewers today, as I do on every visit we have with our program, for visiting with us.
And I invite you to come back again.
And we certainly want to have you come, if you can, to our meeting on the 3rd, because I believe a lot of people still think that they come and they get energized and they hear good speeches and borderline speeches.
And they come and they tell me how much they enjoyed it.
But they don't realize, especially for myself, I speak for myself, how much benefit we get.
Because if I'm doing something I want, and this issue of liberty happens to be a favorite subject of mine and sound money and the Constitution.
So if they come to hear it and they feel better, I think it's just great.
But the crowds make me feel better because they come.
And especially because there'll be some new people.
Or there'll be somebody that came thousands of miles because they haven't heard about our little program.
But the young people will come and the young people that might have been young when the campaign was going on and they're not so young now and they started their own program.
So First Amendment rights are so key.
The right to speak out, the right to present our cause.
I believe we can win this because I think the majority are with us now.
We just don't have the authoritarianism that keeps the big government going and the welfare system going and the money going on and the deep state controlling banking and the wars and the pharmaceutical industries.
They're a minority and we have interest in the majority viewpoint that liberty is much superior to the authoritarian system that we suffer from.
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