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	Greetings, earthlings and humans, plus all the other things floating around.
	Gaborum, what are they called?
	Tanunaki, we love it.
	Anunnaki.
	Nephilim.
	Nephilim.
	All the other things floating around.
	I don't know who you are, where you come from, but we're glad you're here because we got a bubba banger of a show today.
	And I forgot to say, of course, the greatest viewers I have are in the animal kingdom, the highest intelligence of living beings on this planet, in my opinion.
	The animals, they love the sound of my melodious tones.
	And because they understand higher intelligence when they hear it, as they are also of my tribe there.
	Animals far smarter than humans, as you know, as I always say, because they, unlike humans, don't need to bullshit themselves in order to feel the joy of life.
	Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
	Oh, you see.
	My patience is growing fierce.
	Well, here we are.
	And it's an odd day.
	It's October 7th that we're filming, so that's an odd day.
	It's also Sukkot, the Jewish holiday of joy.
	Life is full of a lot of, what is it, dichotomies and I don't know what the word is, but opposites.
	Dichotomy works.
	Is that work?
	But I do have a bubba banger of a show today to repeat.
	Jake, I love to blow your eardrums out.
	But you know how I love to talk to geniuses, and I'm really excited because I have a genius, as I do every show, for the most part.
	But a real one this time.
	Except for the ones me and Jake do.
	But no, I think this person is like really in with the zeitgeist.
	He reads it well.
	I've been on his show.
	I admire him.
	He's an encyclopedia of facts.
	I am often stunned by the wealth of knowledge that he puts across and in a good way so that us regular dumb folk can actually follow and understand him.
	And he's a good guy.
	And I'm happy to have Tim Poole of Timcast here today.
	Hi, Tim.
	Hey, thanks for having me.
	Thanks for coming to my house.
	I'm so happy to have you here.
	I'm honored to have been invited.
	Well, I've been to your house or whatever it is that we go to.
	Big studio building.
	Yeah.
	Show up your chickens.
	Of course.
	Oh, I love that.
	They are fat and happy.
	They are so cute.
	We need to get chickens out here.
	I always had chickens in Hawaii on my farm, but we have so far here in Texas not acquired any chickens.
	You don't need antidepressants.
	You just need chickens.
	Yeah.
	Because when you watch them bobbing their heads around and goofing off, and they play rugby when they find food, they chase each other.
	Life is so good.
	It's so beautiful.
	Yeah.
	Just laughing.
	Right.
	They don't have the need to look for depressing things that they can't figure out.
	And they cannibalize each other sometimes.
	They do?
	Yeah.
	If one gets injured or bleeds, they'll eat it.
	They pick it to death and eat its body.
	Oh, well, maybe they are Democrats then.
	They also reproduce with their own children.
	Oh, they do?
	Well, humans do that.
	Yeah, so eventually we have to remove the rooster.
	Otherwise, it's like, I think, great, great-grandkids that are, you know.
	Interbred?
	Yeah, like...
	They call it line breeding, where they want a desirable trait.
	So because the chromosomes of chickens are different from mammals, you can get away with it a little bit.
	I think it's probably an excuse because no one cares if their chickens are retarded.
	Yeah, how would you know?
	Right.
	Yeah, because they're just like, to be honest, chickens are pretty dumb as it is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they'll sit and stare at a spot on the wall for hours.
	But isn't it so cute when the mama hen has little babies and they follow around and she covers them from the rain?
	Yeah.
	You know, it's funny if you have a hen and she's broody, she's sitting on the eggs, but the eggs are bad.
	What you do is you, in the middle of the night while she's sleeping, you buy some freshly hatched chicks and stick them underneath her and take the bad eggs away.
	And then she'll wake up in the morning shocked to find babies and she'll think they're hers when they're not, but it doesn't matter because she's happy.
	Where do those chicks come from that you do?
	Grocery, like the tractor supply or something.
	Farm.
	Oh, that's unusual.
	Chicken trafficking.
	They don't.
	Now chickens.
	Now chickens, I forget about animals sometimes because I know what we're here to talk about.
	I wondered if, what did I think if dogs were mammals?
	I couldn't remember what I forgot.
	She wasn't sure.
	I can't remember sometimes, but chickens, they don't nurse their chicks, do they?
	They don't give them milk.
	Nope.
	They're birds.
	Birds.
	No mammary.
	Oh, they give them worms.
	Do they give their babies worms?
	What do they feed them?
	I think the babies, I think, just eat.
	I don't.
	What do we give the babies with baby food?
	I don't know.
	Oh, the girls.
	It's been a while since we fed them.
	I think we just give them a protein mix or something.
	They just eat it like normal animals.
	Well.
	Yeah.
	Chickens don't barf into the mouth of their babies.
	No.
	But it is really, really cute when the so when the chicks are a little bit bigger, the mama hen will show them how to eat a bug.
	And it'll like peck the bug and then look at them and then wait for them to do it.
	Yeah, it's amazing.
	Isn't that cute?
	And then it's funny because at a certain point, the chicks get big enough, pullets, and then the mama hen just basically starts to ignore more and more.
	And then once they're adults, they're treated exactly like it's almost like the hen forgets they're related.
	Yeah.
	Once they become adults.
	Yeah.
	Then it's just competition.
	Then it's like, hey, look, you're an adult chicken.
	Do your thing.
	Just like just like we do with our kids.
	I'm still here.
	I'm 47.
	I still live here.
	Just the intelligence of animals.
	It really blows me away.
	Yeah.
	What's interesting is that there are a lot of animals that it's not just about intelligence, but about perception.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's a mono, I'm probably getting this wrong, monotremes, things, animals like the platypus and the echidna.
	I believe they have something called electroreception.
	I'm probably flubbing the words in some way because I'm vaguely remembering this, but they can sense electromagnetic fields.
	Wow.
	Yeah, so imagine if you could just see or feel the electricity from the cables and the lights.
	Yeah, they can.
	And so apparently when an animal...
	Do you think we have any of that in us?
	Because we're all connected, animals and people.
	Well, we can artificially give it to ourselves by taking a small neodymium magnet and putting it into your fingertip.
	And people have done this.
	You cut your finger open, stick the magnet, seal it up.
	And then when you hold your hand to anything near a magnetic field, it causes a slight reaction with the magnet you can feel against your nerves.
	And some describe it as not so much like a touch sensation, but you can feel electricity.
	And what's the point of why would they do that?
	It's an additional sense.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	So here's a practical use.
	Let's say you're going to hang something on your wall, but you're concerned about hitting a power cable.
	If you have this in your hand, you can run it along the wall and feel exactly where the cables are and then move over.
	And yeah, it's pretty wild.
	What about all that turning people into transhumans?
	Isn't that part of it?
	Yeah, I do think that all the trans stuff we're seeing is absolutely the precursor of transhumanism.
	Furry, other kin, transgender, whatever you want to call it.
	I don't know that it's intentional.
	You know, some people might think that people like Peter Thiel and other prominent individuals are encouraging this because they want to normalize the idea of changing your form in some way.
	But at the very least, I think it is an emergent phenomenon that will happen no matter what because we are integrating with machines more and more every day.
	Is that freaky to you?
	No.
	I saw this one guy and he had some implants in his brain, but he's paraplegic.
	And he was saying that this is God's gift to him because he's able to do things because he has all these whatever they are implants in his brain, whereas before he couldn't do things that he now can do.
	So I can see that it could be used for good or bad.
	But I always worry about the experimentation they do on captive populations before they bring it out FDA approved.
	Well, this is the funny thing.
	What they're going to do, let's start with the integration of humans into machines with social media.
	Facebook reportedly experimented on tons of people by injecting their feeds with political information to see if their opinions would change.
	And of course it does.
	When it asks you if you're a robot and the captcha pops up?
	You're actually training AI.
	They're not checking to see if you're a robot so much as you are telling the computer system what words are, what visual words represent which text.
	So in the early days, it would say, type out the words you see, and the words you get were passages from a book.
	With all of the people online typing this away, they were actually training AI to read books.
	Wow.
	Now you'll get these recaptures where it says click everything with a motorcycle in it.
	You're actually teaching it what a motorcycle is.
	And so that's how they're training the AI systems.
	So all of this.
	So when you ask me if I think it's freaky, the reason I say no is because some of it is and some of it isn't.
	Helping a paraplegic walk again is amazing or a blind person see.
	But where I think we're going to end up with it is they're going to create, and what I'm wondering is how easy will it be for us to invent read-write capabilities to the human mind.
	Meaning what you described with the man using the computer, that's read technology, meaning a computer can read your brain and translate it to something else.
	Write would be the computer sending information back and you absorbing or perceiving it.
	Once we get read-write, I assume 90% of liberals will disappear from public life.
	How much time do you spend every day on a web browser?
	How much time do you spend clicking around online, searching, scrolling, typing endless tabs?
	It's a lot, right?
	Well, okay, there's a new AI web browser from Perplexity called Comet.
	It is completely changing the way you're able to interact with your browser.
	Using Comet feels like having a personal assistant living in your web browser that can actually do stuff for you across the internet.
	Yeah, do stuff, not just give you answers.
	Because it's a web browser, Comet can use all the accounts you're already logged into to take action across the web.
	Yeah, this thing is, so AI scares the crap out of me, right?
	Like the track and trace program.
	This is not.
	Yeah, we don't like that.
	No, this is AI what it should do, where it's not satanic, where it actually does tasks for you in the background.
	It's an assistant that lives in your computer, and it's pretty crazy.
	So you just go in this browser and you type stuff up, your browser turns blue, and it does everything.
	My friend.
	Well, what it does is compile and synthesize information.
	You give it a directive and it uses whatever you have on your computer.
	So for instance, if I say, we want to cook a chicken picotta night, you and me, right?
	I can say, give me the recipe for chicken picott, then go into my Instacart, order said ingredients, deliver it to my house, email all my family in the area that dinners at seven tonight, click, go shower, go what you want, go mow the yard, and everyone will show up with your ingredients and you can cook together.
	It's pretty spectacular.
	It's scary, crazy, cool.
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	Because they're going to be like, hey, look, to all these trans people want to be a woman, plug your brain in the machine and you can exist in a fake video game reality where you experience life as a woman or a man if you're a woman.
	You want to be a dragon.
	Or how about this?
	You're a bored incel living in your basement with no purpose.
	You want to be a dragon slayer?
	Plug this in.
	Maybe you want to be a famous comedian with the number one show in the late 80s, early 90s, who is currently hosting a podcast.
	Plug your brain in and now you're sitting in a chair interviewing some guy.
	Yeah, it creates artificial reality for incels, basically, right?
	Conservatives likely will avoid plugging their brains in because of their faith in Jesus.
	And I think, you know, Muslims, you know, religious folk will very much avoid plugging their brains in.
	They'll have a faith-based and gut reaction against it.
	But liberals and seculars and atheists are going to be like, who cares?
	Plug me in.
	And they will put themselves in the matrix in two seconds with smiles on their faces.
	Yeah.
	What was it that Facebook was doing with that?
	I forget what it was called.
	It was a world you could buy real estate years ago.
	Buy real estate?
	Yeah, you could buy real estate in this virtual world.
	Oh, that was the Sims, wasn't that?
	I'm thinking about Second Life.
	I don't know if that was Facebook.
	No, it was the one before Facebook, the MySpace.
	They were the farms, too.
	Those were games, but there was an online game called Second Life where you can buy property, build houses, and it's – some people liked it.
	But what Facebook was doing was they isolated – I could be wrong about this.
	The reports, I believe, suggested, they isolated groups of people by the millions and then intentionally fed them political information to see if it would alter their behavior.
	And it did.
	And it's evil, but welcome to the Brave New World.
	Well, I remember when I was going on there, because I'm a troll.
	As one should be.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, I saw it as a spiritual troll, you know.
	And I was noticing more and more on the MySpace, I think it was, and then Facebook, how it was moving more and more to the right and fudging the line between total fascism and socialism, trying to fudge that line.
	And I mean specifically that the Nazi propaganda that was on those things seemed like that was what was keeping it going.
	That was what was keeping all social media going because they had way more followers than anybody else.
	That bubbling up, and it was left and right, but just the anti-Semitism and the Nazism, it was just taking over all of it, and it was being fed and fed and exponentially growing.
	And so I got off of it because it was terrifying.
	This was 20 years ago.
	Yeah.
	When they began to moderate these platforms, They simply took action based on what their personal biases were.
	So for your run-of-the-mill liberal who was like, hey, look, racism is bad and gay marriage is fine.
	Anybody who opposed something that was pro-liberal, they'd say, who cares?
	Anybody who was far right or neo-Nazi or whatever, they would ban.
	So this created a cultural skewing in the Democratic Party largely.
	Republicans just went to other places to get their opinions, even though they were getting censored.
	The way I described it is, imagine you see a woman and she has two kids walking down the street and one kid is covered in just ice cream and dirt and he's all messy looking.
	The other kid looks perfectly clean, wearing a nice little suit.
	You'd assume the messy kid has got some mental problem and you'd assume the other kid is probably well kept, right?
	What was actually happening is that because liberals were biased and were allowing the liberals to say and do whatever they wanted, this allowed the craziest of the left to run rampant.
	Meanwhile, that kid who looks clean, his mom just wouldn't give him ice cream.
	So when they censored the far right, the white nationalists, the neo-Nazis, and I'm saying this as distinct groups, it made it look like the moderate, the mainstream conservative was clean-cut, professional, and meritocratic, and the liberals looked insane.
	And that's where we've kept going.
	I think one of the reasons Elon Musk wanted to bring the right back to X was to restore balance where, hey, look, a lot of people on the right are bad too.
	A lot of people on the left are bad.
	But if you only can see the bad left, the right looks real great.
	So that was a big mistake they made.
	And boy, did it make things worse for themselves.
	They don't understand it, but here we are.
	What exactly do you mean by that?
	Where are we right now?
	That's what I want to get.
	In this country.
	Yeah.
	Where are we?
	Oh, man.
	I mean, well, politically, we are in what is called civil strife.
	This, I think it's fair to say, academically and politically assessed as a fact statement, not an opinion statement.
	So a civil strife is usually defined as 70 or more deaths related to politics within one year.
	We've been in these periods before, like the civil rights movement doesn't always mean you'll get a civil war.
	But I believe that the probability favors a civil war in this country right now.
	There are a lot of people that to quote Stephen Hawking and to be as offensive as I can in this regard, smart people sound crazy to dumb people.
	And so what ends up happening is, I love this line, because I always talk to people, and I've been saying this for seven or eight years, I think we're on track for a civil war.
	And they go, what are you talking about?
	I go outside and nobody's fighting.
	And I'm like, did you think in 1862 in Atlanta, a guy would walk out of his southern home and see his neighbor and go, oh, I'm going to fight you.
	No, they were neighbors.
	They got along with each other.
	They agreed with each other.
	The fighting was in Gettysburg.
	The fighting was in Antietam.
	The fighting was in Manassas.
	But people don't comprehend that.
	Yeah, they don't.
	So they go outside and they say, touch grass.
	I talk to my neighbors.
	Nobody's fighting.
	And then I'm like, I just did it.
	I recorded a video earlier.
	There was a Katie Davis court's a reporter.
	She's in Portland where the rioting outside the ICE facility is.
	And she's standing on the rooftop smiling with another woman taking a picture.
	Some liberal guy who works for Gavin Newsom said, wow, looks like every war-torn place I've ever seen.
	As if to say nothing is going on in Portland.
	So what I did was I pulled up my photos and videos from Egypt during the Second Revolution in 2013.
	And I made a video where I shared those photos and videos.
	And you know what they show?
	Nothing.
	They show people driving their cars, going to work.
	Everything looks totally fine.
	And you'd have no idea the military just staged a coup d'état and took over the country.
	In war, nothing is different.
	People don't understand this.
	They see movies and they see the front lines.
	And they think that when you're in war, everyone's panicked and you're ducking and hiding.
	They don't realize that in every single war, 99% of the population experienced no violence.
	That's right.
	It is only ever a small group of individuals.
	So my point there was, here I am in Tahrir, in Cairo, from the 26th floor of the Hilton building, and I pan left to right.
	And when you look left, what do you see?
	People are going shopping.
	They're at McDonald's watching a football game.
	You pan right.
	There is a few thousand people on Tahrir Square and you hear chanting.
	That's just a protest, right?
	No, that was a revolution.
	In one part of a country of millions of people, a few thousand people jumping up and down resulted in the government collapsing, the military coming in and shutting down bridges, and then massacring their political opponents.
	So, where are we in this country?
	We are so far beyond that.
	Tahrir Square was a protest, and the government collapsed twice.
	The first revolution in 2012, the elections, and the second collapse of government in 2013.
	Where are we now?
	Well, a year ago, they tried to kill Donald Trump.
	Someone tried to kill him again.
	The Democrats arrested his lawyers illegally.
	They hunted down Trump supporters across the country.
	And I'm not talking about J6 writers.
	I'm talking about the people who were walking around the Capitol who didn't know a riot was happening.
	That's just the tip of the iceberg.
	They accused Trump of being a traitor.
	We just learned with Arctic Frost, they were spying on members of Congress, the Biden administration.
	They were spying on Turning Point.
	And where we are now, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
	Four terror attacks in that month, four weeks in a row.
	Last Sunday, from the time of recording this, there were two attacks by leftist extremists on ICE.
	And you know where that went?
	Following the vehicle rammings of ICE, and they defended themselves with firearms, resulting in a leftist woman fleeing to a hospital for treatment.
	The Latin kings reportedly put a bounty on the commander of DHS.
	Chicago police were instructed to stand down, and Latin King gang members went to the area to secure it for their gang faction.
	And I'm sitting here thinking, you'll never know when a civil war has begun.
	Famously, in 1861, we say that the Civil War in the United States began with the Battle of Fort Sumter.
	But the only person who died died on accident.
	No one actually tried to kill each other.
	However, at the time, they didn't think Civil War was happening.
	So much so that when troops actually amassed in Manassas, people came out and picnicked on the hillside, thinking there would never be a civil war.
	Now, this is funny because by our recollection, historically, we say they were already in the Civil War.
	It happened some time prior with the Battle of Fort Sumter.
	And then what happened?
	Well, Union troops clashed with Confederate troops, resulting in panicked civilians fleeing, blood splattering everywhere, the mayor losing his mind and running, people getting injured, heads getting blown off.
	The crazy thing is, even after that, the Confederacy won the first battle of Bull Run.
	And you know what the Confederate soldiers said?
	We won.
	Now there won't be a war.
	And as the Union troops fled back into D.C., the Confederacy said, pack it in, boys.
	We're heading home.
	The fight is over.
	And then what happened?
	Abraham Lincoln said, we will not tolerate the secession of these seven states.
	We will amass troops and send them in to quell the rebellion.
	After he did that, four more states who were actually favored the Union flipped on that, terrified by what Lincoln was doing, and said, we're seceding.
	Today, Gavin Newsom and Trump are currently in legal battles over who controls the National Guard in their states.
	Oregon filed suit.
	A federal judge ruled in favor of Oregon, saying Trump has no authority to station.
	I'm not talking about violating posi comitatas.
	For those that are not familiar, the law that states that military can't enforce domestic law.
	What Trump is trying to do is station National Guard at a federal building in Portland, which has every authority to do.
	And this is under something called the protective principle, where military can be deployed for the purpose of protecting federal buildings, not to enforce law.
	A judge said, no, Trump, you can't do it.
	So what did Trump do?
	Fine.
	I won't take Oregon National Guard.
	I'll send California National Guard, who I already control, because I won that court battle, send them into Oregon.
	This judge then immediately updated her temporary restraining order saying any federalized troop cannot be sent into Oregon.
	So Trump says, we're going to appeal this.
	In the meantime, we're sending the troops into Chicago because they were attacked by gang members, or I should say, a bounty was put on by gang members, and they were attacked by leftists.
	And Illinois under Pritzker sued, and the court today ruled Trump can deploy National Guard.
	So it's fascinating that several years ago, people are like, why would the states ever align against the federal government and each other?
	Greg Abbott in Texas just told Trump he will grant him 400 National Guard troops from Texas to deploy to Chicago and Portland.
	The states are aligning against each other and have been for six or seven years.
	For all we know, today, Pritzker goes on TV crying and says, I was wrong.
	Trump, we need your help.
	How could I be so blind?
	Trump then walks up, they hug each other, and they sing kumbaya, and everything ends.
	However, I think that's remarkably unlikely, and so it's likely going to escalate.
	Chicago is going to be the heart of it.
	I mean, I really think that that's why Trump, Well, I think that he nationalized, he federalized the National Guard a long time ago.
	And also, didn't he kind of call, I mean, people say I'm crazy, but he kind of called everything an insurrection a little while ago, too.
	Yeah, a few days ago.
	So he didn't federalize, so each state has their own National Guard.
	He's federalized California, and he has the authority to do it under certain grounds.
	What he's going to have to do is invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807, which says that when states are in a state of insurrection or rebellion, the president can take control of not just the National Guard, but he can then send in the military to enforce domestic law.
	And it's happened, I think, three or four times throughout American history, notably in the Civil Rights Era.
	So the reason why he hasn't yet is because I believe that he's being advised by Stephen Miller, who is a genius.
	Yeah, he is a genius.
	My God.
	Absolutely.
	And I think Miller told Trump, don't just invoke the Insurrection Act.
	You want to massage these things.
	So first, protective principle.
	Let people become accustomed.
	Then, once they challenge you and you have no choice, Insurrection Act.
	I think he's doing the same thing with labeling Antifa domestic terrorists.
	That is a meaningless distinction.
	There's nothing in law about domestic terrorism.
	So why did he do it?
	I believe Stephen Mill is advising him.
	And he said, first, executive order that the domestic terrorists, which means nothing.
	You can't sue against it.
	It doesn't do anything.
	But culturally, people start to recognize that Trump has done this thing.
	Then there will be some media coverage around Antifa that Trump can highlight.
	Within a few months, he can then designate Antifa a foreign terrorist organization.
	Yeah, he's close to doing that.
	Now, that gives him real power under a bunch of provisions like Patriot Act, FISA court stuff.
	When that happens, he can start wresting these people for financing.
	So there's a guy named Mark Bray who wrote the Antifa handbook.
	They just reported he fled the country the other day.
	Well, it's been reported that he was fundraising internationally on behalf of Antifa.
	Right now, because Antifa is not designated an international or foreign terrorist organization, that's perfectly legal.
	Once Trump does declare it a foreign terrorist organization, simply asking for money makes it a crime.
	But not retroactively, right?
	Not retroactively.
	So apparently, again, these are all reports.
	Bray shut down his fundraising because of this, but fled the country to Spain.
	So, you know, I think it shows that there is, let me put it like this.
	I'm biased.
	I'm of one side.
	I'm on Trump's side because Trump represents the Constitutional Republic of the United States.
	The Democrats represent the multicultural democracy of the United States.
	These are two distinct nations with different sets of cultural norms, moral standards, and laws.
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	Hence, the Democrats arrested Trump's lawyers.
	Yes.
	Well, they arrested Trump.
	Arresting Trump is one thing.
	It's never been done before to a presidential candidate.
	It is shocking.
	But the argument they make is, yeah, well, if you commit crimes, we come after you.
	We've gone after Nixon, for instance.
	But arresting someone's lawyers is a declaration of war.
	Yeah, it is.
	We have a constitutional right to legal representation.
	They arrested Trump's lawyers for simply representing him.
	And the charge, RICO.
	That's it.
	What does that mean?
	Well, racketeering, right?
	Corruption.
	You're part of a criminal enterprise.
	By being a lawyer to Trump, you are now part of a criminal enterprise and you will go to prison.
	When that happened, I said the dam has broken.
	If Trump does not respond by arresting these people, we will end up in gulags.
	They do not represent the moral worldview of the average American or what America has been for the past 250 years.
	Even with all the changes we've made, they are something totally different.
	What do you think they want?
	The Democrats?
	Yeah.
	What are they really after?
	It certainly isn't what it was when my family were Democrats for 3,000 years.
	That was supposed to be about labor rights and, you know.
	They want labor rights.
	We want labor rights.
	They want health care.
	We want health care.
	Right?
	So let me answer your question, but first ask you, what do you want for this country?
	I want to see this country and the people in it who do all the work be able to thrive without the boot on their neck.
	That's what I want to see.
	Real freedom, real liberty.
	They want the exact same thing as you.
	Identically.
	Now, there's a moral philosophy behind what they do, and you may be thinking, well...
	I think they want control.
	Well, don't you want control?
	No, I want freedom.
	But I mean, isn't there a degree of control that our system needs to protect that freedom?
	Yeah, law and order.
	Right.
	They want law and order too.
	Well, they don't like the Constitution.
	agreed they they like what so the constitution is not a real thing the what What a Constitution, the word where it comes from is what constitutes a people.
	And most countries don't have written constitutions.
	They have spoken constitutions which represents the will of the body politic and the nation itself.
	Okay, the Declaration of Independence.
	You know, that we would have a representational government that actually represents the people who vote for the people they send to represent the government.
	This is the point I'm trying to make.
	Okay.
	So the Constitution has in it a bunch of things.
	And we like those things, right?
	Like, you like free speech.
	Of course.
	So do you think that you agree with the founding fathers on free speech?
	Yeah, I do.
	Well, they don't agree with you.
	Why?
	Because blasphemy was illegal back then.
	obscenity was illegal back then okay even george carlin got arrested in the 70s that's true so So what we want as free speech did not exist back then.
	Do you think you have a right to keep in bear arms under the Constitution?
	Yes.
	The Founding Fathers didn't agree.
	The Founding Fathers thought that each state could ban whatever guns they wanted, and they did.
	The federal Constitution only prohibited the federal government from taking your guns.
	The states could do whatever they wanted.
	So our views are dramatically different from what the Founding Fathers thought when they wrote the Constitution.
	Not to mention, the Ninth and Tenth Amendments basically don't exist anymore.
	So the left's view of what the Constitution is, they say, we want the Constitution.
	We believe in free speech.
	What is free speech?
	It's saying whatever you want so long as you don't offend someone.
	And we go, but that's not free speech.
	Well, the Founding Fathers didn't necessarily disagree.
	Blasphemy was offensive, so it was illegal.
	The point I'm making is that there are two countries with distinct moral worldviews and interpretations of the Constitution.
	So when the liberals come out and say, Donald Trump is destroying the Constitution, they're saying the Second Amendment means that militias controlled by the government can have guns.
	Not that anyone can have one.
	Trump is destroying the Constitution.
	And we go, no, the people.
	The militia was comprised of the people.
	So we have interpreted these things very differently.
	Now, to be fair, I believe that the political right in this country is correct on most things.
	And that is because I believe the left is largely comprised of political opportunists and grifters at the high level and the ignorant default libs, the lowest level, who don't actually know what's going on in this country.
	But the point I'm making here is not to say that they're correct, but that they have a moral worldview that is a mirror image of ours.
	So when you ask them what they want, they will say, and I mean the regular person, identical to what you say.
	And you're like, how does that make sense?
	Because their understanding of these concepts is very, very different.
	But there is an easy way to explain this.
	I want you to imagine you are in a big open field in the middle of nowhere, isolated, for the purpose of this thought experiment.
	There's no one around.
	There's no phones.
	You have a gun.
	A gun?
	You have a gun.
	A real nice one.
	It's a Glock signed by Donald Trump.
	It's gold and blue and loaded, ready to go.
	And you're walking through this field, and all of a sudden you hear screaming.
	And so you rush towards the screaming, and what do you find?
	There is a deranged-looking white man mercilessly beating a black man who's screaming for help and locked up in chains.
	Uh-oh.
	What do you do?
	Kill both of them.
	Got him.
	One for being evil, the other put him out of his misery, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, the purpose of the experiment is obviously the guy beating the black guy is bad, right?
	I don't know.
	Well, he's mercilessly whipping a guy in chain who's screaming for help, right?
	Yeah.
	You're gone.
	No, but you don't know the circumstances.
	So you're just going to let him do it?
	No, I would, you know, tell both of them to stop.
	Well, the black guy in chains ain't doing nothing.
	He's being beaten.
	Okay, he's not getting.
	Oh, I'd go stop.
	I'd stop the beater.
	All right, now.
	And then I'd say, what is this about?
	All right.
	Now the white guy screams, I've captured this man from his home and I own him now and I can beat him all I like and you can't stop me.
	Whips him again.
	What do you do now?
	Shoot him.
	Okay, I agree.
	I completely agree.
	The white guy, shoot the white guy.
	And agree.
	And I'd say, now maybe the circumstances are beyond what we recognize.
	Maybe we don't know what really happened.
	But the point of the thought experiment is: man, if you saw a white guy mercilessly beating a black guy who he claimed was a slave, you'd do what you could to stop him.
	Well, if it was slave times, yeah.
	No, I'm saying right now.
	You're like, this guy just kidnapped a dude.
	He's a racist, kidnapped.
	Well, maybe that black guy killed his whole family and the guy got it.
	But attacked him and put him in chains waiting for the police.
	Well, no, but the point is the guy says, I've captured him.
	He's my slave now.
	Well, that would make me kill him.
	Agreed.
	How do you feel about that white guy saying that has he beaten that black guy?
	Does it make you angry?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's like that time's up.
	Bye-bye.
	Agreed.
	So that feeling you get when you imagine that scenario and you're like, this mother effer, what a disgusting, he's hurting that man.
	He's breaking the law and he deserves to die because he's threatened the life of another person.
	That feeling is the exact same feeling these Antifa guys and leftists have for you.
	No, I know it.
	So the difference is, in that scenario, let's put it from the left's perspective.
	You come across a deranged white guy screaming that he can own any black man he wants, spitting racial slurs and beating this guy.
	You come across him, the only difference, there's 10,000 white guys standing behind that deranged man saying, don't you even try it.
	We own them all.
	The left thinks.
	Yeah, they do think that.
	The only reason they're not gunning people down en masse is because they're like, the whole system is white supremacist.
	It is all a bunch of racists speeding and killing black people.
	And we have to be strategic about how we destroy them.
	Yeah, I know they think that way.
	But here's how I see it.
	I disagree with you in the, not disagree, but I see it another way.
	The left is, here's how it goes.
	The left is a bunch of billionaires who, you know, have their favorite courtier class who live in the big cities and have, you know, $200,000 apartments that they live in with their cushy jobs, for which is basically just guarding public opinion so it doesn't turn against the billionaires.
	And then their token clerk class that they pay not so well, but not so bad so they can just, you know, barely make it.
	And they can point to them and going, go, look, here's our voting slave class, but we'll call them consumer class.
	I think that was true until 2008, maybe.
	And so where it really took.
	Well, then it changed with Obama.
	Then it was, these are our street gangs and we're paying them.
	So what I think happened is the real profound switch was the election of Trump.
	Trump does not, in my opinion, represent the billionaires who want.
	No, I'm just saying the left.
	And now.
	Right.
	Agreed.
	Agreed.
	But it was a working class that went, this is bullshit.
	You know, we're never, we're not ever allowed to, you know, gain wealth, build wealth on the left.
	We're going to be this permanent subservient class to billionaires, donors.
	And so we're going to elect Trump.
	Fuck you.
	That's what it was as a big fuck you to the Democrats.
	And, you know, they got Trump.
	And the Republicans.
	Huh?
	And the Republicans.
	Yeah, and the Republicans.
	It's a working class movement.
	It's a grassroots.
	Trump is the result of the working class waking up.
	Agree.
	I think that before Trump, the Democrats and the Republicans were the same thing.
	Yeah.
	And then what happened was...
	Well, Clinton proves that.
	Right.
	Right.
	You had the Democrats and the Republicans where they disagreed on most nothing, and they did what you said.
	They created division just to give a false idea of you can choose this side, you can choose that side, but it's never changing.
	Yeah, it was a class war.
	It was a complete class war.
	And then what happens is Trump gets elected, and we see the Republicans join the Democrats.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And now the left, as we know it today, is actually the old uniparty system for pre-Trump.
	And the right, they call it the far right because they need a way to make it distinct from the old system.
	Trump represents the working class populist uprising.
	Yes.
	And the Democrats represent the machine state of the neocons and the neolibs from 20 years ago.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	So they've got billionaires, they've got financiers, they've got intelligence agents, and Trump is winning.
	He hasn't won, but he's winning.
	Yeah, he is winning.
	He's shutting it down on so many levels that Americans have no clue.
	They have no clue as to what he's really doing at all.
	And not just him, I think, to be honest.
	Trump is only a surface-level guy for the most part.
	Stephen Miller, I think, is a principal organizer of a lot of what we're seeing at the granular level.
	And then you've got with RFK Jr. and Tulsi, I think they're largely following orders.
	RFK Jr. has his mission.
	I love him.
	He's fantastic.
	And he came in and they said, here are the parameters by which you can accomplish what you want to do, but don't tread over here, like where it could cost us.
	So RFK is getting a lot of really great stuff done.
	I think RFK would be a different president, but I think he's like, I'll stay in my lane.
	Tulsi is the same thing.
	And then I think, I got to be honest, I think Miller is largely the guy behind everything.
	When you listen to him talk and his stance, you've got to come to that conclusion.
	Yeah.
	He seems to be the guy who knows what's going on and his strategies are effective and clever.
	I think Trump has a mission and agenda, but I think it's largely surface level, to be honest.
	And Miller is the deep roots guy.
	Well, I think Trump's finally maybe got some good advisors, but when you look at, I mean, I don't think we've seen it yet.
	I mean, some people that look at it deeply see him dismantling the whole debt system, the whole system of debt worldwide.
	Well, this will be apocalyptic.
	Yeah, it will be.
	It's not the end of humanity necessarily, but I think the global economy will collapse.
	Okay, so let me put it like this.
	I always be careful with predictions.
	Based on what has happened today, if we were to fast forward skipping over any potential variables 10 years, the economy has completely collapsed and you can't find a toothbrush anywhere.
	And the reason for this is that the next generation, and this is near-global, is non-existent.
	Generation Alpha, whose oldest people are 15, is only 42 million.
	And that's the high estimate.
	40 million is the low estimate.
	That's half the size of Gen Z and half the size of millennials.
	Now, when I bring this up to people, they say, oh, no, don't worry, Tim.
	Those jobs will be replaced by AI, so it's good.
	My response, your customers cannot be replaced by AI.
	So your businesses will collapse.
	Supermarkets will evaporate.
	There's an economic principle that the average person does not understand.
	They look at things like surface level numbers and think, if there's 10 grocery stores and 10 people, or let's say 10,000 people, and you subtract 5,000 people, you'll have five grocery stores, right?
	Because without those, you know, because each grocery store can sustain 1,000 people.
	Incorrect.
	You'll have zero grocery stores.
	The reason is each grocery store operates on thin margins of around 2%.
	So if you have 10 grocery stores that have a 2% profit margin, just barely scraping by and covering the cost of all their staff, and your population collapses by 5%.
	One grocery store doesn't see a 5% collapse.
	Every grocery store will see a 0.5% collapse.
	What happens if your population collapses by 50%?
	Every grocery store will see a 50% collapse, or at least it'll be split up, a 10% collapse.
	What happens then?
	So we've actually seen this with in certain African countries and stuff when it comes to shoes.
	But one example I'll give is really simple.
	You have a town of 100 people.
	They have one shoe store.
	One cobbler makes all the shoes for everybody, and it's fine.
	One day, an oil company comes in and says, we need to hire 100 more people and bring them here to run this company.
	Overnight, the population has doubled.
	And the cobbler says, I'm sorry, I'm at capacity.
	I can't make any more shoes.
	I'm too busy.
	So one guy says, I've got an idea.
	I'll open my own shoe store because there's demand for it.
	There are now two shoe stores, each servicing 100 people each.
	After a few years, the oil drilling company says, we are done.
	The wells are in place and we don't need you anymore.
	You're all fired.
	Now there are two shoe stores, but only 100 people.
	Well, they needed 100 people to sustain the shoe store.
	So what happens?
	Does everybody just go to the old shoe store again?
	No.
	They divide their business among each.
	Now each of these stores is saying, I'm slowly building up debt because I don't have enough customers to sustain my store.
	I can't pay my taxes.
	I can't pay my electric bill.
	I'm going to put it on credit cards.
	After a few months of this, the credit card bills pile up.
	They go into default and shut down.
	And now you have no shoe stores anymore.
	Now 100 people are saying we have nothing but bare feet.
	Now, after a few years, someone will open a new shoe store and it'll start to recover, but you will get a depression.
	With the population collapse that's coming among Gen Alpha, that is going to happen.
	And there is nothing that can alleviate it.
	Now, that being said, that's nothing based on today.
	For all I know, tomorrow someone invents the robo customer who for some reason needs to eat food and starts buying from grocery stores.
	But pending some variable I can't see, which is incredibly likely to happen, meaning I'm probably wrong, the prediction is with population collapse will come a total economic disaster on every level.
	Isn't that happening in Japan, the population?
	That's why they're bringing in 1 million Indian and African refugees desperately trying to create customers for their businesses.
	And what have we seen?
	Horrifyingly, tons of stories of crime and rape popping up in Japan.
	Well, what are you doing when you have no kids?
	Their birth rate's below one.
	Yeah, no, I know.
	That's what I'm asking.
	Oh, yeah, we're cooked.
	So we've got more kids, is what you're saying.
	Yeah, it's you need to have more kids, but there's nothing you can do because we have a 20-year lag.
	So even if everyone right now had, everyone right now had, if everyone right now had two kids, every Gen Z. So millennials are aging out of being able to have kids, which is kind of wild if you think about it.
	The oldest millennials are in their early 40s.
	Fucking old.
	So this means that millennial women are not going to have kids soon.
	In fact, a 35-year-old woman who gets pregnant, it's called a geriatric pregnancy.
	Oh, my God.
	So right now, Gen Z are supposed to be having kids.
	If every single one of them had two kids, then Generation Bravo, they're calling it, because nobody wants to say beta, would be, if it was a replacement, you'd have 80 million.
	But that's not going to make up for the deficit among Gen Alpha.
	So we're still looking at a 40 million person deficit.
	This would mean that no matter what happens, Gen Alpha is about to enter the workforce at 15 years old in the next few years.
	The boomers are at what's called the mortality shelf.
	The oldest boomers are 79.
	That's mortality.
	What we're expecting to see right now, there's about 60-some-odd million boomers, 20 to 40 million deaths in the next 10 years.
	A massive portion of the market will disappear.
	Customers will disappear.
	And these are the ones who hold property and own corporate equities.
	We have all the money.
	Indeed.
	And purchasing power.
	So people rely on boomers right now largely because they're the ones buying stuff.
	When they leave, we will not get a comparable replacement with Gen Alpha.
	The economy will take a hit and there's nothing that can be done about it.
	Well, what in the hell are we supposed to do?
	I mean, I'll find my way out of it.
	But I mean, what's going to be left of my grandkids?
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	Humans will survive.
	I'm not saying that it's going to be the end of the world.
	It just means that the luxuries that millennials grew up with will be gone and Gen Alpha is going to be like, this sucks.
	And the joke is you're going to be able to say, you know, when I was your age, we could watch any show we wanted at any point.
	I'm like, really?
	Yeah.
	I wish we could afford a TV these days, but a TV goes for $20,000.
	So only really rich people have them.
	Seems like we're heading back to, and this may be a good thing in a lot of ways.
	The depression of the 30s.
	I mean, not necessarily the depression, but, you know, all of human history, we were farmers.
	Yeah, that's what I think too.
	They would be wise to get even an acre and learn to farm it and grow food.
	I mean, I always thought that that was coming too, and that, you know, the currency would become homegrown food.
	A tomato, I said way back, that'd be more valuable than a car.
	Because people will always need to eat.
	An organic tomato.
	That's what I say.
	People are going to be like, is that a real tomato?
	Like, yep.
	Shut up.
	It's not a Monsanto RX-59.
	That's right.
	Nope.
	And the most wealthy people would be the Mexican immigrants that know how to grow them.
	The Honduran farmers.
	That'd be a fun movie where it's a nightmare dystopia in the future, and someone's got in a glass refrigerated case an organic, original heirloom tomato.
	And they're like, if you get, if that can, you know, that's worth a million dollars.
	I'll trade you my car for it.
	Here's a funny one for you.
	I remember, you know, Alex Jones used to always say, buy your gold, people.
	And my thing was always: if the economy really did collapse, the government collapsed.
	Imagine a guy's walking down the street, and there's two guys walking down the street.
	One guy's got a bunch of gold, and there's a guy sitting on the side of the road, and he's eating a sandwich.
	And these two guys are hungry.
	And one guy says, I will give you 10 pieces of gold for that sandwich.
	The guy next to him says, I'll share my bottle of water with you.
	Does he buy the gold or the water?
	What does he trade for?
	The water is the obvious question.
	Obvious answer.
	So water will be the most valuable thing.
	That's what I think, too.
	That's true.
	Gold is true.
	It's already happening.
	Like Iran, they say, is totally out of water.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	And water is the essence of life.
	So if you don't got water, you ain't got nothing.
	Plus, you can only go three days without water.
	You can go a lot longer without food.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you can eat some stuff you might not want to, but getting something to drink, that's tough.
	You know, that's.
	I guess that's the way it has to go because, you know, it will, I guess, evolve around a new value-for-value money system instead of inflated bullshit, you know, where it's like, oh, well, the dollar is now worth $5,000.
	You know, or the other way around.
	$5,000 becomes equal to a single dollar today.
	Right.
	Yep.
	Because it has to come down to value for value.
	Well, the funny thing is, like, with Bitcoin, there are a lot of people that say Bitcoin is a scam because nothing could rise in that much value in that much amount of time.
	And then you smirk at them and say, you are correct.
	The dollar has collapsed.
	Bitcoin has gone up in value based on its adoption.
	But the real scary thing is the value of Bitcoin comes from the dollar losing buying power at a ridiculous level, like speed.
	It's crazy.
	I mean, we went to the grocery store.
	See, that's like Marxism.
	That's all like the other side of the whole scam, the whole grift.
	Because Marxism only works to collapse the bubble so that vulture capitalism moves in to buy at the bottom dollar.
	After, you know, it's like gentrification.
	As soon as everything collapses, the same assholes run in and buy it for two cents.
	At the beginning of the show, you gave a shout out to all the Nephilim and Anunnaki and all that.
	You forgot the Tartarians and the Atlanteans.
	Oh, yeah.
	And my favorite conspiracy theory is, I always say my favorite conspiracy, but a fun theory that I actually don't think is that implausible is that Bitcoin is intended to be the global currency or a global store of value, and they're destroying the dollar intentionally through the pandemic lockdowns.
	If you want a one-world currency that's used everywhere, the first thing I say is look no further than Visa and MasterCard.
	You already have it.
	It doesn't matter if you have American dollars.
	You can go to France and swipe your card and it's Euros.
	But if you want everyone to adopt the same currency standard, the same denomination, the same symbol, what do you do?
	You do Bitcoin.
	And then everyone thinks they're going to get rich and they're going to buy it up.
	You slowly start killing off the dollar.
	You slowly start pushing adoption of Bitcoin and then give it a generation and everyone's like, oh, Bitcoin's, I want dollars.
	I want Bitcoin.
	And it's like, well, you can always have dollars.
	No, no, I want Bitcoin.
	And then 40 years later, Bitcoin is the only currency used.
	Well, but they say never count out the dollar.
	So that's why I don't really count out the dollar.
	For now, but the dollar is just the political system of the United States.
	Well, but look at Trump.
	Yeah.
	Don't you think America?
	I don't know.
	If there's a civil war, the dollar is gone.
	China's going to come in and fund one side over the other, and you're going to get BRICS and NATO fighting for everything.
	China's going to give California money.
	I don't know who's going to back Trump.
	Maybe Russia, but I doubt it.
	Russia's bricks.
	I think Trump's fighting bricks.
	I think he's taking bricks down.
	That's why I don't think they'd come to his aid, which is scary because if a civil war breaks out, you basically have Europe and BRICS siding against Donald Trump.
	So California is going to get flushed with cash.
	One of the reasons the Confederacy lost was a variety of reasons, but one was that the Union had financiers from foreign countries, and they, here's one example.
	At the Battle of Gettysburg, they largely won because they had breech-loading rifles, and the Confederacy had muzzle-loading muskets.
	So the Union was reloading every 20 seconds, and the Confederacy was reloading every minute and a half.
	They got wiped out.
	Technology matters.
	So if there were to be a civil war, imagine this.
	Who are Trump's allies?
	I mean, the European countries don't like him.
	BRICS doesn't like him, right?
	So let's say it does result in a civil war.
	And then internationally, you get NATO nations and BRICS nations saying, we side with the Democrats, not the Republicans.
	And then the Democrats win with international support.
	That's what blows my mind about, okay, that takes me to let's discuss this.
	Well, then we have to discuss Charlie Kirk, too.
	But all this thing with all the ex-MAGA folk turning on Trump over the subject of Israel.
	Okay, first of all, you know, I've said this.
	Okay, you want to dump Israel?
	Okay, fine.
	Then Israel will simply pivot to India and make them the world's leading world's technological leaders in weapons and other things and other technology.
	Is that what America it's like they're doing it on purpose?
	It's like I think the Israel thing is largely a component of foreign influence.
	I think most Americans don't really care.
	When you poll the average American, they support Israel except for Gen Z. And I think that's largely to do with TikTok, which is why they bought TikTok.
	Yeah, I know.
	But I'm saying to tell Americans to get rid of Israel is to the detriment of America.
	To a great degree, I think so.
	But man, they got to get rid of Netanyahu.
	Even if just for, he's been in power way too long, even if just for, he is a PR disaster for American Israeli politics, that guy's got to get out of there.
	I don't disagree.
	And also because he went to school of Americas and he's WEF all the way.
	He always gives up at the end.
	He always grabs defeat from the jaws of victory every fucking time.
	I don't know, but I think that he's there because the other people that are running are fucking full-on leftist furries.
	And from Tel Aviv, they're Obamaites.
	And there's a real civil war going on over there between the left and the right.
	So, you know, they haven't had anybody step up who's smarter than him.
	I'm not really a fan of his either.
	I would consider myself to be largely America first.
	Well, so am I. I'm a fucking American Jew.
	And I really resent that they are, you know, because I care about, I have family there, but that I would be on their side makes me anti-American.
	That really pisses me off.
	Yeah, me too.
	American Jews fought and died for this country for as long as they've been here.
	And I don't like that cudgel they're putting in, and that they it's all a fucking psyop.
	It's left and right, and those fucking people, they sound just like Democrats.
	What I will say is the pro-Israel side is probably the worst at PR and social media management.
	I agree.
	I say it every fucking day.
	Miserable.
	So I was invited to meet with Netanyahu earlier this year, and the anti-Israel people just keep vomiting on themselves over it.
	But I feel like it was largely a waste of our time.
	He just was basically saying Iran's coming to get you when you got to go to war, and no one was buying it.
	It was a miserable job.
	And I asked him about these stories that Qatar is funding anti-Israel sentiment, and he brushed it off and didn't care.
	And I said, man, this guy really has no idea what he's doing.
	So I said, look, you've got 10 years.
	Gen Z hates Israel.
	24% support.
	10 years from now, these people are going to be running for Congress.
	They're already 27.
	And you guys are going to get voted down by the Republicans and the Democrats because the Republicans are anti-interventionist, anti-war, and the Democrats just hate Israel.
	And you have no answer for it.
	And they still don't.
	So I don't care if they do good.
	I am not, Israel is not a priority of mine.
	I don't have positive or negative feelings.
	It's just it is what Israel is.
	So I say this with the utmost milquetoast fensitorism.
	They are doing a piss-poor job of explaining why America should be funding them in any way.
	And the enemies of Israel are doing a bang-up job of doing it.
	Here's what I think.
	I try to explain to people how you mind rot somebody.
	It's really easy.
	Young people go online.
	There's a grifter class, largely, the left I would consider to be largely grifters.
	Oh, yeah, totally.
	They're all getting paid.
	And it pissed me off when I was on the left.
	I just have to say this.
	To see those kids that are mentally ill who are their ground troops, to see them pay them to get beat up and go to prison when they could easily instead actually give them jobs with the future and benefits.
	It really fucking pisses me off.
	Well, here's the best part.
	They don't pay those people.
	They pay the organizers.
	The organizers convince the stupid people to get beat up and go to jail.
	Saves them money.
	So here's what I see happen.
	Oh, God.
	Republicans have, you know, one in five on the right is going to be a grifter.
	On the left, four out of five is going to be a grifter.
	I agree with that.
	So you see this in the most prominent of personalities.
	Conservatives will go on shows for free because they want to express their ideas to the widest audience possible.
	Liberals say how much.
	Well, because they think they're going to get a corporate job out of it.
	Come on.
	So what ends up happening is – Nobody is saying what they really think or believe in because they don't have any beliefs I guess.
	On the right, they do.
	On the left, they don't, generally.
	Here's what happens.
	You find a young person who makes YouTube videos.
	They put out a video every day.
	You can go on Google and buy ads on any video you want.
	In fact, you can make that video an ad itself.
	So here's a simple rudimentary psychological attack.
	A guy makes a video where he says, I like Israel.
	I like Israel.
	I hate Israel for this, though.
	I like Israel.
	You then take his anti-Israel video, run it as an ad on Google, and get it 100,000 views.
	He wakes up in the morning and he sees pro-Israel 1,000, pro-Israel 1,000, anti-Israel, 100,000, pro-Israel.
	And he goes, whoa.
	I need to do anti-Israel.
	I got to be anti-Israel.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And then, and that's it.
	From that point on, his whole, I have seen this happen.
	This is so fun.
	There's like a fitness channel.
	I'm not going to call anybody out, drag them, but there's a fitness channel where it was a guy who did fitness videos.
	And then he made a commentary video on October 7th.
	Got a bunch of views.
	So he went, I'll talk about it again.
	Got a bunch of views.
	However, when he made pro-Israel videos, he would get less views than if he made videos critical of Israel.
	That's my channel.
	So he goes like this.
	Man, it's really bad what Hamas did.
	And I feel so bad for the Israelis.
	A bunch of views, and it was good.
	Then he gets a bunch of criticism in the comments.
	And they say, yeah, but what you don't understand is that Netanyahu did this, this, this, this, and this.
	So he makes another video and he says, I'm seeing a lot of people saying that Netanyahu did bad thing and did bad thing.
	All of a sudden, everyone's praising him.
	You're so right.
	You're the best.
	More views.
	And he goes, that's what I should do.
	Here's the best part.
	These accounts are probably largely fake.
	Yeah, they're bots, right?
	Not necessarily.
	They're probably just Pakistanis and Indonesians.
	And I'd be interested to look at the metrics of a lot of these channels to see what percentage of their viewers are coming from Muslim majority nations who hate Israel.
	No, they are, and that's who controls them.
	And I've been doing the trolling to find out that for myself.
	I mean, I got fired from ABC, not because of what they say, but because I said Muslim Brotherhood.
	And all over media, I've been doing it for a long time.
	Just using the words Muslim Brotherhood gets me kicked out of everywhere because that was the number one visitor to Obama's two terms as president.
	They don't want us to know about Qatari influence on our campuses and in our government.
	In fact, it's those people who scream APAC, AIPAC, AIPAC.
	Billions of dollars in influence buying coast to coast and especially in the media.
	I call this Israel derangement syndrome.
	It is.
	And it's like, you know, of course they hate Israel.
	Israel has women's rights and gay rights.
	Of course they don't want that in the caliphate.
	Well, I just mean in the United States, there are people on the left and the right who they think everything is Israel no matter what.
	Like the APAC thing is a really good example.
	I've had people come on my show and they're like, so you're not pro-Israel?
	And I'm like, I'm not pro- or anti-Israel is what it is.
	And they're like, you're not concerned that APAC is controlling our Congress.
	And I said, how is APAC controlling our Congress?
	They spend millions per year on our politicians.
	And I'm like, okay.
	Welcome to lobbying.
	They shouldn't.
	Sure.
	The Chinese spend 20 times as much.
	The Chinese lobby is the biggest lobby in this country.
	So I agree with you.
	But why are you acting like Israel's the biggest threat?
	But here's the lie about it.
	APAC is an American PAC.
	It's American Jews.
	And they're pro-Israel.
	They keep fudging that it's American businesses and Christian businesses who do business with Israel.
	So it's an attack on Americans.
	It's an attack on Americans.
	I have no problem.
	Someone says, should AIPAC register under FARA?
	And I go, sure.
	And so should all of the other lobbies.
	It's fascinating that I can say – Italians that do business with Italy should then too.
	I'll go ahead.
	Agreed.
	And I don't like that anyone in our Congress is going to be influenced by any other country specifically.
	Anybody can lobby anybody.
	That's fine.
	We have alliances.
	My issue is that.
	China is real, though.
	It's $450 million per year.
	Our whole Congress, look at Biden.
	I mean, they sold our whole fucking country out to China, gave them our secrets and everything else.
	The Democrats did over 30 years and the Republicans.
	So my only position is, guys, if you're going to come at me over Israel and APAC, that's fine.
	Just tell me why you don't care about the other ones.
	That's what I'm saying.
	You don't care about Cutter.
	Cutter runs Al Jazeera and Al Jazeera Plus in the United States, which is woke leftist insanity.
	Like, you're coming at me and go, Israel bad.
	I say, okay, cutter too.
	And they go, what about it?
	I'm like, no, no.
	I'm saying we should be concerned about Muslim brother.
	That's the Muslim Brotherhood.
	I just think there, you know, I had to.
	And these people like, well, let's take Candace Owens.
	I mean, never a word about what's really going on in the real world.
	It's all like a psyop to keep us from seeing what's actually going on.
	I don't, I don't, you know, Candace.
	Isn't it to split MAGA?
	Isn't it to.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I know that she gets a lot of views.
	Yeah.
	I know that she's real mad at Ben, but I think she believes what she believes.
	I think she says what she thinks is true.
	I just think that she is a I think she's easy to convince.
	She thinks Trump's controlled by BB.
	Does she really?
	Yeah, no.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	I think that.
	Or at least she says.
	I think that if you show Candace Owens like a text message that says, I am BB and I control Trump, she'd be like, whoa.
	Whereas many other people would be like, I don't know about that.
	Back this up with something.
	I mean, Trump just bitch slapped BB in 100 ways, and they're still like, BB Netanyahu controls Trump.
	They got to get rid of Netanyahu.
	That would defang a lot of this stuff and just get somebody else.
	I'm sick of that.
	I disagree.
	I mean, I know what you're saying.
	I agree with that.
	It's not just about you.
	I think it's done a bad job.
	No, I know.
	I'm just saying it won't defang the anti-Israel component.
	The snake will still be there, and it can coil.
	But what I mean by it is that.
	I think the cat's out of the bag.
	I don't think we're going back.
	Oh, for sure, for sure.
	I'm just saying it.
	I hope we don't get like UK.
	I mean, oh, my God, or Europe.
	Oh, yeah.
	But that's the way it's going to go, it looks.
	I think Netanyahu is miserable at his job.
	I'm just like, shut up.
	So do all the Israelis.
	I know.
	The PR thing, by all means, talk about the military.
	All the people who are critical of Israel, the actions he's taken.
	He has not been able to justify this stuff.
	I'm like, can you hire somebody to at least say words better than you?
	I'm not saying I agree with what he's doing.
	I'm saying that he is a terrible leader.
	You're talking about PR, too, which is a large part of what we're doing.
	I mean, their PR is like, I mean, let's just say it true.
	I bitch about it all the time.
	And, you know, so I might as well say it on here.
	They get all their, I was so glad to see the ADL go down.
	I hate the fucking ADL because they never defended me, but they defend Soros.
	Yep.
	They only defend those kind.
	And I'm like, how come you don't ever defend me?
	I, you know, obviously there was a lot of stuff because of how I was, you know, defending Israel against, you know, the Iran deal and what it meant for me getting fired, but you never came to my defense.
	And in all these Jewish taste makers and what are they called influencers, I'm never invited to any of that in the United States because I'm not a leftist.
	And, you know, it's just so psyop, ridiculous, donor-based horseshit.
	And they don't like Judaism much, those Jewish organizations.
	And they pay these kids, I guess, just like the left does.
	They paid these kids who are not Jewish like I am.
	And so my voice has been totally censored out of the whole thing about Jewish opinion.
	And I'm the one saying the most radical things.
	And so I'm censored by left and the Jewish right.
	It's unbelievable.
	Now these people are, and they have been pushing that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
	Yeah.
	And then something happened, which is just like a text message came out.
	Candace got big news today.
	Where Charlie says he just lost a big Jewish donor, and it's putting him in a position where he's— Overhaving Tucker there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He says now he has no choice but to put him in a position where he has no choice but to leave the pro-Israel movement.
	And now he wants to invite Candace, to which someone responded, don't invite Candace.
	And this is not evidence that Israel killed Charlie.
	No.
	This is not evidence that Charlie was abandoning Israel.
	No.
	No.
	It is evidence that Charlie was feeling pressured by a Jewish donor, and he made a statement which may be indicative of abandoning Israel and may be indicative of a threat to the donor, where he's basically saying...
	That's how I read it.
	Yeah, if you're not going to donate to me, then I'm off Israel.
	And then they go, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.
	Don't do that.
	He was basically saying, I can have what I want.
	I support Israel.
	But maybe, maybe not.
	I don't know.
	What I do know is Andrew Colvett publicly confirmed the messages.
	And I don't know why he did that.
	Me either.
	Because all that does is confirm in the mind of the conspiracy theorists, it proves Israel killed Charlie.
	Yeah.
	So they don't need any facts.
	To be fair, there is the challenge of, well, if it's a real text, should Colvett come out and say it's a real text?
	You know, I mean, maybe he wants to be an honest guy.
	Well, all this is going to do is now the position is basically this.
	Across the internet, you've got people who are not really that interested going, whoa.
	Maybe they did kill Charlie.
	I'm like, okay, well, good job, Colvett.
	Good job turning point.
	You know?
	It's like, well, it's obvious that that's what they want.
	They had Tucker there, who's Goebbels.
	His speech reminded me of Goebbels.
	Which Charlie Kirk is doing.
	The hummus eater comment.
	Why?
	I don't think.
	He said dog whistle to use leftist terms, the hummus heaps.
	What did he say?
	I didn't have a problem with it.
	He was talking about the people that killed Jesus because Jesus was telling the truth and they were just sitting around eating a bunch of hummus.
	That was the line.
	I apologize for it.
	I know, but not really.
	Can I say something real quick?
	He's possessed by a demon.
	I've already told you.
	Yeah, we did this on.
	I'll tell Alta.
	But anyway, we won't go into that.
	I just want to say something real quick.
	For Candace, for example, she's had these texts for a long time.
	Right?
	So she inferred this from the beginning.
	She's a brilliant propagandist.
	She's not a journalist.
	People got to stop doing it.
	She's a propagandist and she's getting clicks.
	Let's be real.
	Please let me finish.
	So she has this.
	She sets this whole thing up.
	The day after Kirk is assassinated, she's already inferring that he was under pressure from Jewish donors.
	There's no reason to get into that because they clearly had nothing to do with the assassination.
	So she peppers it.
	She holds.
	People are going.
	Even Nick Fuentes is coming after her.
	You don't have any receipts.
	She waits until yesterday to drop this text she's had the entire time.
	I ask you, first, I want to ask you, why do you think she waited until yesterday?
	Well, I don't think she had the text the whole time.
	I think they were given to her by someone at Turning Point who's high up, and I think it was done intentionally.
	I do too.
	Okay, well, then let me just finish this.
	So she's, what she did is she's inferring that Israel is no, she's inferring that Charlie didn't like Israel after all.
	But why is that?
	She's doing investigations every day.
	I'm going to get to the bombers.
	My best friend was killed, and then it's Israel, Israel, Israel, right?
	Then when people start calling her out about it, she goes, I never said Israel had anything to do with it.
	How dare you?
	And then waits and cooked, bro.
	No, I know, but my point is it's because of people like Candace that we should be talking about fucking Trantifa or fucking Antifa or the leftists and all the shit that we've been.
	You were the slowest red pill in history.
	I followed you for a long time.
	You now talk about a civil war and leftism.
	Chinese.
	We're in a civil war longer than anyone else.
	No, I know.
	My point is we're not talking about the left right now.
	We're not talking about the violence of the left anymore.
	We're talking about Israel.
	And what does that benefit any American right now on the brink of a civil war?
	Because I do agree with you.
	To me, it's propaganda.
	i agree like it's just right right now splitting the red on any issue at a time when weren't when when why did you do that what Whether or not you believe or disagree, whatever the Charlie Kirk situation is in your mind, we are watching far leftists shoot ICE agents, ram vehicles.
	This is why it's like the logic of the market.
	How many trans shooting has there been?
	There's been like 8 in a row.
	So here's the thing.
	Charlie Kirk was pro-Israel.
	And whether or not he was planning to not be pro-Israel does not create grounds for any intelligence agency to kill him.
	It makes no sense.
	I think he was pissed at those donors for not letting him have Goebbels.
	And the text message is like this.
	It's saying to somebody, you're not going to donate this money to me?
	Then screw you.
	I'll screw you over.
	Not that he was actually saying, wow, I guess I hate Israel now.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So this doesn't change that opinion on Israel.
	That isn't the point.
	He was saying if they're going to try and bully me on this one, I'll ditch them and they'll regret it.
	But she released this text yesterday to make it look, I was just saying.
	I don't think she had those early.
	Okay, then forget that.
	But the point is, she's using this, and her people are saying she was right all along.
	There's no new information here.
	Charlie Kirk talked about this on Megan Kelly.
	We all know he was under pressure.
	We had Dinesh D'Souza here last week.
	There was nothing new in those texts.
	Right.
	But now they're celebrating that Candace was right all along.
	She's right about what?
	We haven't even talked about the guy that fucking blew his neck off.
	We're not even talking about him.
	We're talking about Israel.
	The issue is not Candace releasing the text.
	The issue is Andrew Colvit confirming it.
	Yeah, but we already knew they were real right away.
	I knew they were real.
	We already knew he lost Jewish donors because of Tucker.
	Yeah, a long time ago.
	Because of Turning Point, he brought Tucker and Nick, whoever he brought.
	Jewish donors dropped out because of that a long time ago.
	The statements made in that text were already publicly known weeks ago.
	And I discussed it on my show when I was at Turning Point last week, where Charlie said he lost $2 million from Jewish donors, pressured over Tucker.
	People talked about Bill Ackman and all this stuff.
	So Candace putting out the text message is just more hot gossip for these people.
	But when Colvet came out and said this is a real message, it created like a nuclear bomb.
	He basically put her text, which meant very little to most people.
	I saw her put the story out and I was like, how about that?
	We already knew that.
	No, exactly.
	When Colvett came out and said, this is real, it went.
	And now, like, I've been getting messages from people saying, why would he do that?
	Like, why did he come out to amplify the not, it's not about what's true and what's false that people are complaining about.
	It's about amplifying the inference of the people.
	Yes, the inference, absolutely.
	Which is that Israel killed Charlie because he betrayed them or was turning his back on them, which doesn't add up logically.
	No, they wouldn't kill Candace.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	No, it's the dumbest thing.
	It's the dumbest theory I've ever seen.
	That's actually the best rebuttal.
	No, it's true.
	It's Tucker.
	Right.
	If Israel was really right.
	That's not stupid.
	So Massad gets into a meeting and they're like, we're in trouble.
	Candace is coming after us.
	Tucker.
	And Charlie Kirk has concerns about our donors.
	Let's kill him.
	Charlie.
	The one guy who loves us.
	No, if you look at the motivation, he was actually, you talk about Israel cooked because the younger generations hate Israel.
	He was actually keeping the younger generations.
	Do you think Israel is going to go, oh, fuck, they see what we see?
	Oh, shit, in 20 years, we're fucking cooked.
	Oh, we're going to shoot the one guy in the fucking neck that's keeping the young people on our side.
	I think more likely killed them.
	Thank you.
	Charlie was keeping Shabbat, which is a definition of what is a Jew.
	So to me, Charlie was a Jew.
	He was keeping Shabbat.
	So there you go.
	Fuck yourself.
	He was keeping the commandment of what a Jew is.
	So, you know, he was part of it.
	So that to me disproves everything they say.
	You Jews are really bad at being in control of everything.
	What's going on?
	You would think that as a Jew in control of all media, I wouldn't have got fired.
	Prevention of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	No, I agree.
	It's a very interesting point.
	Yeah, what's going on?
	How come you guys can't get your PR together?
	I don't know.
	And in control of the weather, but I can't quit smoking.
	Damn.
	No, it's obviously stupid.
	That's the thing.
	That's what's really this whole thing to scramble our money.
	I had a friend.
	They're trying to fuck up our minds so we can't see what's really going on and who the agent is.
	I'll tell you a story.
	I have a friend in Hollywood.
	I was at her house, and she had a Muslim woman poster that was rainbow.
	And it was the Obama hope thing, but like a woman in hijab.
	And then I said, why do you, you're Jewish, right?
	And she's got a bunch of artifacts and like Holocaust memorial stuff.
	And she was like, yeah.
	And I was like, why the activism in favor of Muslims?
	No disrespect to Muslims.
	I don't care.
	I'm not telling you you don't.
	But I'm like, I find it interesting that you're very, very pro-Muslim despite being Jewish.
	And then she's just like, well, it's the way that they're being targeted in this country and all of these things that have happened and they're oppressed, blah, blah, blah.
	And I said, can I ask you a question?
	How many Muslim countries are there in the world?
	Do you know the answer?
	What is it like 26?
	Is that what it is?
	54.
	Depends how you define it.
	54?
	It's just in the Levant.
	If you do like population, if you're just countries.
	Countries that have a state religion of Israel.
	It's officially 20-something.
	I think it's 26.
	But maybe you're right.
	Maybe you're right.
	I said, do you know how many Muslims there are in the world?
	2 billion.
	Yeah, just shy 2 billion.
	And then I said, how many Jewish countries are there?
	One.
	Not really.
	There's a state which is conflicted and at war over its territories.
	So we can say technically one.
	And how many Jews exist on the planet?
	14 million.
	That's the diaspora, too.
	That includes people who aren't practicing Jews.
	And I said, what's fascinating to me is you would be an activist as a Jew, a proud Jew, an activist for Islam when they are one of the most dominant religions on the planet with wealthy billionaires.
	And Jews are a fraction of the population of Christians and Muslims.
	But it was funny because when I said, how many, when I asked her how many Muslims are there, she's like, I don't know.
	And I was like, you know, it's like 1.6, 1.8 billion.
	How many countries?
	It's several dozen.
	And when I said, how many Jews are there?
	She was like, like practicing, 6 million maybe in the diaspora.
	It's like 12 to 14.
	And then I said, how many countries?
	She goes, one.
	And I was like, see that indignation you have?
	And I was like, I can see that when you logically go through the who is oppressed, there are substantially fewer Jews in substantially weaker positions.
	Yet for some reason, in this country, the left venerates the Muslim, which I don't understand.
	They're right now, too.
	And you know, it's funny, I got into an argument with somebody on my show because, again, I say this all the time.
	You are welcome to, nay, I encourage you to criticize the government of Israel all day and night.
	Yeah.
	In every way, by all means.
	And they do it.
	And they do.
	And you're allowed to do it.
	And so they're like Tim's blunt paper.
	Listen, I'm like, some guy was telling me that Trump's controlled by the Jews.
	It might have been Elijah Schaefer.
	I don't know.
	And I like Elijah too.
	And Jews have so much power in AIPAC.
	And I said, this country, how vulgar can I be on your show?
	Very.
	This country sucks the dick of Saudi Arabia.
	No shit.
	Going and having meetings with their princes, telling them that we will do them favors if they please don't pump oil because it'll screw up our petrodollar plans.
	And then when they get off the petrodollar contract, we shit our pants.
	There was the whole Khashoggi incident.
	This country, we knew that Saudis were involved in 9-11 and the families weren't allowed to sue the Saudi government over their complicitness or complicity in this because we protect the Saudis.
	By all means, you can tell me that Israel has influence in our politics, and I think it's true.
	But why do you ignore the Saudi royal family and how when they say, you better do what we want or we're going to pump oil, we want you to go bomb Yemen right now?
	We go, yes, sir.
	Thank you, sir.
	I don't think the U.S. government is under the control of the Saudis.
	I do think we do them favors and we do things for them which are detrimental to us because we are scared that if they pump oil, it'll disrupt the petro-dollar system, which we control.
	Israel certainly has influence in the United States as well because they are a central military hub for the United States in the Middle East, which grants us a lot of power.
	They're a client state of the United States.
	And when you have a customer who makes you a millionaire, you don't want to piss them off.
	It doesn't mean they control your life and tell you what to do, but you say, okay, okay, we're going to keep the customer, client state, happy.
	I'm like, I think the U.S. controls Israel.
	I do too.
	Of course they do.
	But the U.S. is, and I'm like, when APAC comes here and advocates for Israel, why do you think it's Israel doing it to us out of us doing it to Israel?
	Exactly.
	That's the truth.
	Israel was created.
	There's a lot of arguments over how Israel was formed.
	But the point is the United Kingdom and the United States backed Israel because it gave Western powers control in the region.
	Which is intelligent.
	It's an intelligent military.
	It's the British Empire that did it.
	Right.
	And then sells arms to both sides everywhere.
	And that's what Trump's taking down the British Empire and their control of the debt system.
	The issue I take is that to these people, only Israel exists.
	That's all they see.
	Derangement syndrome is a perfect.
	And that's why I describe it that way, because I look at the map.
	I pull up a map on my show of U.S. expenditures internationally where we're spending money.
	And these people come and they say, Israel this, Israel that.
	Look how much money we spend on Israel.
	And I said, Did you know that we've spent more on Ukraine in the past four years than we've spent on Israel in 70 years?
	Yeah.
	So do Ukraine.
	Did you know that Vladimir Zelensky came to the United States and they waved his flag in Congress?
	That's how much Ukraine controls.
	No.
	We're doing it because we're propagandizing the American people support a military operation.
	Because Obama overthrew the government of Ukraine so that Biden could move his family in and they could open all those that's illegal to do here or any other country.
	And Ukraine was the money laundering system for the Bidens and all the other criminals.
	Well, the bigger picture on that is that the U.S. destabilized Syria because we wanted to run a pipeline into Europe to offset Russia's gas prime gas monopoly.
	Because we were losing.
	So Obama effectively, you can get as conspiratorial as you want, either helps ISIS or lets ISIS fester.
	He invented them.
	He didn't, I would call that hyperbole.
	So it's like, it's technically the truth, the best kind of the truth.
	He sent weapons into the region and gave them to rebel groups, which joined up with ISIS and armed them inadvertently.
	The official statement is, oops, we armed ISIS.
	Exactly, air quotes.
	He was giving Islamist extremists weapons to fight the Assad government because Assad was our enemy.
	The reason why, oh, because they're bad people get it.
	No, it's not.
	The Qatar-Turkey pipeline was proposed a long time ago.
	Russia controls natural gas largely with a quarter, controlling a quarter of the supply of natural gas in Europe, keeping the prices high.
	They won't come down.
	They won't negotiate.
	Russia's a gas station.
	They ship oil through the Black Sea and through the Bosphorus, through the Suez, around the world, and through the Mediterranean.
	So when conflict arises in North Africa and the Middle East, which many security experts believe was fomented by the U.S. government through sock puppet accounts on social media, propagandizing the American people to support this unrest.
	Bashar al-Assad says, I'm not going to let you build this pipeline.
	Two strategies are implemented.
	We will let ISIS destroy Assad, and then we'll get a favorable regime to come in and let us build this pipeline.
	In the meantime, we will take control of the Ukrainian government through this unrest, and then we can regulate the gas-prime gas monopoly because we will control the flow by which it enters Europe.
	So something happened.
	Hillary didn't win the election.
	Trump gets in, flattens ISIS, says, I don't care for Ukraine.
	Russia backs off.
	All these people tried to get Trump removed because he was disrupting the liberal economic order plan of disrupting the gas prime monopoly.
	Of the British Empire's standard oil business.
	A component of it.
	So Biden gets in, and what happens?
	War kicks off again.
	Terrorists start rising up again.
	And then just before Biden gets out, Assad is forced out.
	War is rampaging through Ukraine.
	It's exactly, it's fascinating when you just look at the simple layer.
	Liberal economic order in power, war.
	Trump gets in power, war starts subsiding.
	Biden gets in, burns everything to the ground, puts Trump in.
	And I predicted this in 23 and early 24.
	Biden had caused such damage to the region.
	I'm not sure that Trump could actually end the Ukraine war at this point.
	That Russia was too heavily invested and too at risk based on the moves Biden had made with Assad.
	As soon as Assad was out, this means Russia lost Tartus, their naval port, which weakens their ability to control these waters where they send oil.
	And that meant that Russia was not going to risk losing the Black Sea at this point.
	Sure enough, Putin will not agree to any kind of end of the war.
	So Trump says, I guess we're taking this all the way.
	That was it.
	I think when the reason why Putin wants Crimea is because they have the Sevastopol fleet, the Black Sea fleet.
	If they lose control of that, they have to rebuild a multi-billion dollar port.
	It's very difficult to do, but they could do it.
	They don't want to do it.
	So Putin says, we just want control of the Donbass region down to Crimea to maintain our ability to ship oil.
	The Kurzan bridge gets blown up.
	That's why Russia wants control of the eastern region of Ukraine because he loses access to Crimea if the bridge gets blown up.
	And they did it.
	They also have Tartus, which is a naval port in the Mediterranean.
	So he has Black Sea access and security.
	The Tartus base allows him some security into the Suez Canal, where they send their oil to India and other parts of Africa and the Mediterranean out to the other parts of the world.
	If they lose that, the Russian economy maybe not collapses entirely, but it's a huge threat because it's a third or more of their economy.
	There was no way Russia was ever going to give this up.
	That's why when Trump got in the first place in 2016, Russia was like, we chill.
	Tartus is secure.
	Crimea is secure.
	What am I worried about?
	Biden gets in, sets it all on fire, ousts Assad, and Russia says, escalate.
	So I don't know if Trump can pull us out of this tailspin, to be honest, and he's got too much on his plate domestically.
	It's going to go all the way to, you know, what was it when Kennedy was in?
	Cuban Missionary.
	Bay of Pigs that it's going to go that far.
	I think the deep state.
	Well, I don't know what that, I think it is worse.
	I mean, World War III.
	Like, Russia's not going to back down.
	China wants Taiwan.
	Venezuela is under threat right now.
	Trump's talking about potentially drone striking Venezuela, and he's bombing these narco boats.
	I think that the deep state strategy, the Uniparty, is if we can't have it, no one can.
	So, what we're seeing with Antifa and the far left is we want a civil war.
	The left does, because if Trump is struggling at home to maintain order, then it puts a damper on what he can do in terms of foreign policy, or at the bare minimum, they would rather destroy the U.S. system than see Trump reorder the global structure.
	That's what I think, too.
	Yeah, me too.
	The liberal economic order has been in power since the end of World War II, and their attitude is if we can't have it, no one can.
	I think so, too.
	And people are saying America is in for a near-death, a near-death.
	We'll always exist, but it's possible we won't be the global empire anymore.
	Well, I don't think Trump's going to let that happen, which is why I don't think anybody really knows what he's doing.
	And, you know, I just all my faith is in Trump that he does have, what is it, 600 generals.
	I think America can pull it out, but it's going to come real close for us.
	If I was an evil intelligence operative, I could draft a plan for U.S. global dominance like that.
	I could end the culture war like that.
	What would you do?
	Blow up an ICE facility while some conservatives are outside of it, maybe in Portland, and false flag it, blame it on the left.
	Congress would step out of your way.
	You'd get $200 billion for security.
	You'd shut down the culture war overnight, and no Democrat would ever vote against you until the end of your term, allowing you full reign in terms of foreign policy.
	I think you're a tad bit optimistic.
	Optimistic.
	I don't think that would happen.
	I think they'd be like, I don't think that would happen.
	No, I'm sure.
	It's the left that does false flags.
	Absolutely.
	They'd be like, that's not anti-Tivas an idea.
	That didn't happen.
	The death of Charlie Kirk fractured the middle libs.
	Many of them went far left, but I've seen a lot of prominent individuals say, ooh, I'm very sorry about this.
	There are prominent individuals who I would call Normie, default liberal.
	That's what Andrew Breitbart called them.
	The default libs largely broke right.
	But the standard libs, the flag bearers of the Democrats, who aren't really politically active but are pro-Democrat, went far left.
	But this fractured the Democratic base in a sense, because the Normies are scared.
	If a false flag were to happen that took out an ICE facility, killing prominent and beloved conservative personalities who were there, so here's an example.
	I think Canada's would just blame it on Israel.
	But that doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	There's one thing that Trump's economics in elections, and it's security.
	So we saw this after 9-11.
	It's a historic fact.
	When security issues reach a climax, people vote for the law and order candidate.
	Yeah, they do.
	If Trump were to false flag, let's just ignore the false flag because that's somewhat accusatory.
	If the left were to detonate a bomb that killed several prominent conservative personalities and ICE agents, Trump would have carte blunch.
	There would be opposition, of course, but no swing district in the midterms would back Democrats.
	They would be terrified.
	Trump would come out and say, I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry to the American people.
	We have warned and warned about the threat of the far-left extremists.
	We have warned, and it got to this point.
	I need your help.
	We have to stop this.
	I want you to have peace.
	I want you to enjoy a slice of pizza with your children.
	I don't want you to be scared.
	Please support me.
	He'd sweep the midterms.
	You get a Republican supermajority.
	No one was.
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	I think that is what's going on in Chicago.
	I don't think it's a false flag.
	I think it's like, you know.
	I don't either.
	I think the left is actually just nuts.
	I think they're coming for, I think, I think that they despise Christians so badly.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, they hate Christians more than they hate Jews.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they really do.
	And, you know, they hate everything that it stands for, including the family.
	The family itself, you know, the basic building block of American culture and society, they hate it.
	They hate breeders.
	They hate believers.
	They hate the very basic foundation of our country, morality, and all the things we're supposed to believe in.
	They just think that it's obsolete and that it's against their sexual, you know, their sexual libertines.
	And they think that that's the way to go, to have no limits, no boundaries on any of their sexual desires, no age limit, no gender limit, no limit at all.
	Just chaos.
	Just sexual chaos.
	They dig it, and they feel like the Christians are in their way of their Valhalla or whatever it is.
	Are we sufficiently depressed yet?
	Yeah, I was depressed.
	I'm not depressed because I, you know, I'm a believer, and that's what it says is going to happen.
	So it's like, great, bring it on.
	Because I see the end as being, you know, a good thing after all the battle is over.
	Good's going to win.
	The universe is designed towards positive and good.
	So maybe there'll be some bad for a while, but in the end, of course, it will be for the best.
	I think we are in some kind of like biblical end time.
	100%.
	You know, I don't know.
	I mean, it feels like it.
	Maybe I'm just crazy, but I don't think you're crazy.
	It feels.
	Watch him fall, though.
	The evil, and it is evil to.
	Who's the Antichrist, though?
	Well, I don't think we're there yet, right?
	Well, I've seen it all over, you know, because all I do is Kevin Newsom.
	Well, I think it's a spirit more than it is a person.
	Well, it's supposed to be a charismatic individual who leads people away from Christ.
	Or he purports to be, right?
	Is that how it works?
	Yeah, that's the question.
	But I've seen it.
	They say it's Trump's son-in-law.
	What's his name?
	Baron.
	Oh, Jared Kushner.
	Yeah, Jared Kushner.
	They say it's him.
	He's not charismatic.
	He's not charismatic.
	Then I've seen him say it's Obama, which I sort of think.
	Then they say it's the new Pope.
	Everybody's saying it's everybody.
	I think it's also an energy.
	Have you seen you're aware of the Dragon's Prophecy, that book by Jonathan Con or Dinesh Sousa's?
	No, you should watch our last two podcasts.
	It's basically saying we're in biblical end times, but he cites the Bible and compares it today.
	It's fascinating.
	It was some of our best podcasts, to be honest.
	Well, whoever's going to become real popular and everybody's going to listen to him, that's the guy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then if, so that's why Newsom is interesting because he's the frontrunner for the Democrats right now.
	He's a snake newsom.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah.
	What about that zomdammy or whatever?
	Well, in New York as a mayor.
	I do think Mom Dani could be the principal Democrat.
	He has what it takes to manipulate stupid people.
	Yeah.
	So he wins in New York, then he runs for the Senate.
	Then he's geared up in the 2030s to be president.
	And then, you know.
	Well, he's Muslim.
	They don't take over companies.
	Maybe they're pretty chill.
	But I wonder what's going to happen.
	I mean, it does feel like biblical end of days type stuff.
	I'm going to give you the book when you leave, or you should check him out.
	Whatever you believe, read it with an open mind or watch it with an open mind.
	Well, I think that it could go one of two ways.
	And, you know, of course, my hope is that Americans just wake the fuck up.
	Just wake the fuck up and see what's actually right in front of your face instead of searching for conspiracies.
	See what is.
	Get some information.
	Stop listening to grifters and actually search facts.
	Facts are God.
	God is, you know, truth and facts are all you need.
	You don't need to search under rocks for shit when it's right in your face.
	And Americans are so brainwashed that that's the last thing they can do is see what's actually happening right in front of their face.
	I'm glad you brought a lot of fact data.
	You're really good at that.
	And I think that is, that's our weapon.
	That is the weapon of truth.
	That's all we have.
	And I wish people would wake up to it.
	And you are, you know, you're a force on the right side of that.
	I was thrilled to have you here.
	Well, I appreciate it.
	This is a big get for us.
	Oh, man.
	Are you kidding?
	I got invited to hang out with Rose.
	Shall I sing the theme song at this point?
	I mean, just, do you have any other questions?
	Are we good?
	You hear that brisket is why you want to end it.
	Maybe we should get barbecue.
	Can I ask one question and then we'll go eat?
	You don't believe.
	And you're going to get so mad at me.
	And I didn't mean to insult you with the long red pill.
	I just thought that was funny because you used to say that.
	No, but we have watched you go more and more red.
	But what does that mean?
	No, I don't know red.
	I mean, we've seen you less diplomatic.
	We were all liberals.
	Yeah, maybe diplomatism.
	We still are.
	I'm still a liberal.
	I actually moved further left.
	Okay, let me see.
	Well, that's what I think about myself, and I say that all the time.
	I took a test recently to see where I was at.
	Luke and I, where were we?
	We were in France.
	Luke and I took a political compass test, and I was slightly center left, and he was slightly center right.
	And I was like, Illien, Korea.
	And then I took the test again, and now I'm like a liberal social libertarian.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But the thing is, the way you want economics and government to work has nothing to do with left and right right now.
	Right.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	So I can say something like, I'm in favor of universal, I call this universal basic healthcare because I'm not retarded.
	The people who are like, we should have free health care.
	That's not a thing.
	My argument for universal basic health care is a taxpayer-funded system that covers minimal costs like broken bones and the flu.
	Exactly.
	But you need private insurance to supplement things like cancers and long-term diseases.
	Makes sense.
	I don't know how I have concerns about government corruption in these programs, but when people are like, you know, Bernie Sanders has abolished private health care, I'm like, he's lying.
	It's insane.
	But what's your question?
	Just you don't believe in the term woke right.
	I've noticed that.
	And James Lindsay is someone you kind of go after.
	I love James Lindsay, but he's a grifter.
	Yeah, I know you and James don't get along, but the term woke right is something we use a lot because we're seeing a division of MAGA.
	Yeah, woke right's not a real thing, and it's James's fault.
	Okay, but you don't believe that there's a division or that there's a woke element, meaning crazy element of MAGA.
	That's not what the issue is: woke has a universal definition.
	It's a word used by most people to represent something.
	And the left used it first, and the right used it again, but it became a pejorative in the truest sense of the definition.
	It slowly morphed into an insult.
	So what would you call them?
	Who?
	The people dividing MAGA.
	But who, like, I would cite.
	Well, woke right doesn't apply to her because Dave Smith and her have different opinions on different things, so they agree on some things.
	Well, woke would be having syndrome.
	Derangement syndrome is, I would put in the category.
	Aaron McIntyre does not have Israel derangement syndrome.
	I don't know who that is.
	He's someone James Lindsay called woke right.
	And that's the problem.
	If you wanted to say that there is a way to describe the anti-Israel side as similar to the woke left, I've done that in the past.
	Not just anti-Israel, just the people that it seems like there is a division in MAGA that is not organic.
	Well, it's over Israel, though.
	Yeah, it's Israel.
	That's the wedge, but it would be something else.
	No, it is Israel.
	So the argument initially was: I was like, back in the day, it was funny that since Occupy Wall Street, I've told people: if you want to figure out which ideology to join, just figure out who you hate.
	Is it rich people?
	You're an occupier.
	Is it the Jews?
	Well, congratulations.
	You can join the left or the right with that one.
	Fantastic.
	Is it the Republicans?
	You're a Democrat.
	It's them.
	So you pick which group you hate and then fill in the blanks on what problems they've caused because everybody says the Jews caused the war.
	And Occupy, they said it's the banksters and the corporate elites who are causing these wars.
	They just fill in the blanks.
	So here's the problem with the phrase woke right.
	Woke was used by the left to reference their intersectionalist, cult-like, non-theistic religion.
	Yes, that's right.
	It's amorphous.
	It doesn't have a set base of tenants.
	So woke was their word they used.
	I have woken up to this.
	The right says red-pilled.
	The right would then say, you're woke, telling them like you represent this ideology.
	They got offended by being called woke because we were making fun of them, so they abandoned the term.
	So woke means the cult-like adherence to liberal orthodoxy.
	Yes.
	The best example is Hassan Piker, I'd call woke.
	He is pro-trans kids, anti-Israel, anti-Middle Eastern wars, anti-military industrial complex, pro-Ukraine, pro-military industrial complex.
	Huh?
	His ideas don't seem to make sense.
	My favorite.
	That's double standards.
	This is why I say woke is defined as the cult-like adherence to liberal orthodoxy.
	I like that.
	Whatever liberals as a political faction, not the true sense of the word, whatever the liberal political faction believes, you must believe.
	If you defy it, you're excised.
	So woke changes.
	Well, that's his point, is that it's all.
	The point is that people have said, like James Lindsay, woke is critical theory wrong.
	That doesn't explain why they support Ukraine.
	Ukraine has nothing to do with critical theory.
	It does because Russia is a big country and they're a small country and therefore the oppressor.
	No, you're shoehorning that idea in.
	They support the U.S. military industrial complex, the global empire machine.
	That's right.
	That does not apply to critical theory.
	They do have critical gender theory, critical race theory, critical theory, Marxist stuff, as well as these things.
	My favorite example is that the Community for Coalitions was a coalition for communities of color claims that Slavic people, white people, are people of color.
	That is a contradiction.
	It makes no sense that white people are simultaneously oppressed and oppressors.
	So all that matters is when the high priests of the left say, I think thing is true, do you agree?
	They go, I agree with random nonsense thing, and they all adhere to it.
	So a really good example would be when you go to a liberal and you say something like, what do you mean?
	That guy in Maryland wasn't a U.S. citizen.
	They don't respond with, I think you're wrong.
	They respond with, why are you defending Trump?
	Are you a white supremacist?
	What they're really saying is, you're a bad guy.
	You're a bad guy.
	You disagree.
	You're a bad guy.
	So then James Lindsay comes out and says, there's a woke right.
	And I go, interesting idea.
	I don't think the word applies, but he's taking this concept of this cult-like adherence and applying it to a section of the right, which is a qualifier.
	The problem is, he then went, Candace Owens, woke right.
	And I was like, okay, the Israel stuff.
	And he goes, Dave Smith woke right.
	And I was like, oh, okay, you're saying Israel, right?
	And then he goes, Arn McIntyre, woke right.
	I was like, hold on.
	Arn McIntyre is not talking about Israel.
	Arn McIntyre is a civic nationalist.
	And he goes, yeah, Mary Morgan woke right.
	And I was like, what?
	She's like a millennial conservative Catholic.
	What does she have to do with Israel or even civic nationalism?
	But does he say it's Israel?
	No.
	Right.
	That's why I asked.
	What he did say was, very simply, James Lindsay said two things, which he exposed himself on.
	He said something to someone.
	I can't remember what the context was, the preference, but someone made a statement where he said, if you actually believe this, I would be your leader.
	And everyone groaned.
	We get it, James.
	You're mad.
	No one is putting up on a pedestal.
	And then he said, the true final boss is national conservatism.
	He's not talking about Israel.
	He's not talking about racists.
	He's not talking about Groipers or Nick Fuentes.
	He literally tweeted out he has a problem with Christians, Christian conservatives.
	He said the final boss is national conservatism.
	And I said, we get it.
	Woke right means not a liberal.
	And so I like the term woke right.
	And I'll tell you what it means.
	What is the woke?
	Cult-like adherence to liberal orthodoxy.
	James Lindsay is woke because that's what he is doing.
	The only problem is he's not pushing trans kids.
	So what does that mean?
	Well, he's kind of the right side of the woke coin.
	He's woke right.
	All right.
	I'll show him this clip I think he talks about I know I know You know what he does?
	I think he talks about Marxism specifically.
	And that using Marxist tactics among the right that the left did is what he's referring to.
	That doesn't apply to Arn McIntyre or Mary Morgan.
	Well, maybe he got a lot of people.
	So he's just, he's doing what liberals do.
	He's created a term to smear everyone who disagrees with them.
	They did this with alt-right.
	They said, you're alt-right.
	And I'm like, what does that mean?
	It means whatever we want.
	And then once it became a universal term, they said it means white supremacists.
	So if we talk about the Marxists, but it is the smothering of any kind of dissent, any voices of dissent, because that's Stalinism.
	That's Marxism.
	Mary Morgan is not a Marxist or using Marxist tactics.
	No, but I mean, I don't even know.
	She is a host of one of my shows, Pop Culture Crisis, where they talk about, she says like women should have kids and have families.
	She's a Gen Z conservative Catholic, and she comes on IRL all the time, and she's like, she has a style of like hyperbolic aggressive comedy where she says things that seem extreme, but she's actually just like a run-of-the-mill Catholic conservative.
	And she's like, deport them all.
	Just shut down immigration, you know?
	And so it's like, why did she end up on his list of woke right?
	It's because what he's done is James's whole play is that liberals should have been in charge of institutions the whole time, but they got infected by this stupid critical theory garbage, which pushed moderates out of the liberals, like me.
	Yeah.
	And Joe Rogan.
	And so he said, how do we create liberal supremacy again?
	We need to call out this critical theory element within our liberal orthodoxy.
	We won.
	Woke is on the ropes.
	But now he's saying, okay, but now how do we get these people back from the conservative side?
	I'm going to call them the same thing I called the critical theorists, woke.
	So he starts insulting people randomly.
	He puts a bunch of people in different ideological camps under one umbrella.
	That makes no sense.
	He is trying to enforce the liberal orthodoxy.
	He just wants to be in charge of it.
	I think what happened with James is that when he spoke out against the liberal orthodoxy, he lost his career.
	But he's not a conservative.
	He doesn't want to be a conservative.
	He wants to be a polycule, polyamorous guy who does drugs and does whatever liberals do.
	Conservatives will not give him power.
	So now he's trying to rally the likes of the centrist types back towards, he's trying to restructure liberal supremacy under his view of what liberals should believe, excising gender ideology and critical theory, but using the exact same tactics to smear and besmirch anyone on the right the way they did.
	It is the core function of wokeness.
	There was one point where he blocked Carl Benjamin.
	Carl Benjamin is a post-liberal, perhaps just conservative.
	And then when challenged on why he did, he responded with, It's not my job to educate you, which is the core function of woke.
	When you defied their ideology, they said, I will excise you, and I don't have to tell you why.
	And I'm like James Lindsey went woke.
	He's just the right side of the woke coin.
	All right, fair enough.
	I get it because that is Marxism.
	There will be no dissent, and we don't have to explain to you why that is.
	Just ask him why.
	Because we are, you know, we are that arrogant.
	Ask him why Arn McIntyre and Candace Owens are somewhat related to each other.
	They tweet about different things.
	Arn McIntyre talks about civic nationalism.
	Well, he says anyone that uses Marxist tactics to divide a populist.
	What does that mean?
	I'm just saying that.
	Whether I agree with her or not, I'm just telling you that's how he defines a revolution of putting everybody in a page of it.
	Fair enough.
	It's a fair Christmas.
	I'm just saying he's not saying, I don't like this.
	This is so perfectly Alinsky.
	Accuse your enemies out of what you are doing.
	Yeah, it is, Alinsky.
	Yep.
	Blew my ear down.
	Did I get too loud?
	Yeah.
	No, but anyway, I just wanted to ask you that.
	It's good to talk about Alinsky and how, boy, that guy really.
	Smart guy.
	He took America to its knees on every level.
	And I think he won.
	I do too.
	I kind of think they won.
	Well, we're taking it back.
	I don't want to give up.
	I want to keep, but, you know, like it's a quote I read, but you can't really wake up people who are pretending to be asleep.
	That's a good one.
	I'm going to use that.
	Yeah.
	I can't remember whose line it is.
	Oh, I thought you made that up.
	No, I read it and incorporated it into everything I think every day.
	And I see them too.
	You know, their eyes, when you're talking to people and you can see their eyes disconnect from reality and they start going, oh, I wonder, I always say this.
	They're like, I wonder what the Queen of England and the Royals are up to.
	I imagine that there's just clowns going, in their head, you know.
	I think it's like this.
	I wonder how long it'll be before I can go home and consume porn and continue my chronic masturbation.
	Agreed.
	On that note.
	On that note, I'll sing the.
	So you see, my patience is running thin with this synthetic living in.
	Thank you so much.
	Wonderful.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for having me.
	It's an honor for me.
	Wow.
	Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.

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