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| Greetings, earthlings, and humans and others, whatever you got. | |
| I'm glad you're here. | |
| Especially animals, the highest form of intelligence on this planet, as far as I'm concerned, because animals, unlike humans, don't need to bullshit themselves in order to feel the joy of living. | |
| So that's much higher than humans. | |
| Welcome to the Roseanne Barr Podcast. | |
| Oh boy, have we got a banger of a show today. | |
| It's going to be a barn burner of a banger of a show today, I think. | |
| You know how I love to speak with geniuses, and I have them all the time, but this one is a great one. | |
| A genius filmmaker and a unique voice in America, carrying on in the tradition of the forefathers of America, a great American, a great artist, and a for sure genius. | |
| Dinesh D'Souza. | |
| Hi, Dinesh. | |
| Roseanne, it's such a pleasure to be back. | |
| I think we last did this for Police State a few years ago. | |
| That's a great movie. | |
| And boy, isn't it good that we got through all that, although not unscathed, I guess. | |
| And we're in a bit of a new era. | |
| So this new film is a film for today, for these times. | |
| Yeah, I want to talk to you about the film in a minute, but, you know, the dragon's prophecy. | |
| Right? | |
| Heck of a title, I must say. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And we just had Jonathan Kahn on our last show. | |
| So, you know, we talked about it with him. | |
| And then you've made a movie about it. | |
| Right. | |
| Debbie and I, my wife, we went to Israel in December of 22. | |
| And we discovered, we fell in love with Israel and the people. | |
| I felt like I was in the land of the Bible, you know, which is unusual these days because you can go to places, you go to Rome, you go to Stockholm, you go to Copenhagen. | |
| Those places have all become homogenized. | |
| They all look kind of the same. | |
| But Jerusalem is still Jerusalem. | |
| There's still the resonance of biblical times. | |
| So in any event, we discover biblical archaeology. | |
| I've been writing about Christian history and apologetics for two decades, but much of that stuff I didn't know. | |
| And some of it has come out of the ground in recent years. | |
| I mean, in the last decade. | |
| So I was like mesmerized by all that. | |
| And then, of course, nine months later, October 7th, and I realized that that's an epical event. | |
| And so I was trying to connect these two things together. | |
| And I realized they are connected in the sense that ultimately this is an argument over whose land is it. | |
| And one way you answer that question is you ask who are the original inhabitants of this place. | |
| So biblical archaeology, October 7th, there is a nexus. | |
| There is a link. | |
| And then along marches in Jonathan Kahn, who publishes his book called The Dragon's Prophecy. | |
| And he made an observation that blew me away, which is that he said, look, what's going on here is like a biblical event and that the battles between Israel and Hamas are a kind of echo. | |
| He calls it a resurrection of ancient battles between the Israelites and, you know, of course, there were the Moabites, there were the Hittites, but notably the most persistent of the enemies of ancient Israel, the Philistines. | |
| And he doesn't just claim this and he doesn't just hang it on the word Philistine Palestine, which is the same word. | |
| He goes into it with a rigor and a detail that I was like, I don't think people have heard this. | |
| I think I can pull this tapestry together into a film. | |
| And so that's what we did. | |
| Yeah, he takes it all the way back to source, doesn't he? | |
| Well, I love the example of Samson, where, you know, Samson is the biblical hero. | |
| He represents the strength of Israel. | |
| And he's captured by, guess who, the Philistines. | |
| And the Philistines blind him in much the same way that Israel is blinded in October 7th. | |
| And what do the Philistines do? | |
| The Bible says they dragged him to Gaza. | |
| Now, that area, the Gaza Strip, what we call the Gaza Strip today, was Philistia. | |
| But in Philistia, the land of the Philistines, there were five cities, notably Gaza. | |
| And so Samson ends up in Gaza. | |
| And then this is the crusher. | |
| It says the people of Gaza demanded that he be stripped and that he be brought out for their entertainment. | |
| What a key word. | |
| And then I remembered October 7th, October 8th. | |
| This is exactly what happens in Gaza. | |
| They bring out hostages. | |
| They're stripped. | |
| People are dancing with joy. | |
| Allahu Akbar. | |
| And so what Khan is saying is that when you look at this through the lens of the Bible, it takes on a much wider and even a spiritual significance. | |
| That's what I think I found really profound. | |
| And, you know, I have to say, Roseanne, obviously none of us could have anticipated Charlie Kirk's assassination. | |
| People are talking now about like a spirit of not just political and cultural, but spiritual renewal. | |
| And I want this film to be a part of that. | |
| Well, then we have talked about Charlie Kirk, right? | |
| We should talk about Charlie Kirk. | |
| I think that's another epical event of its own. | |
| It definitely is. | |
| And I remember just the eerie feeling. | |
| Debbie and I were right in five rows from the front in the funeral and just hearing these, you know, one after the other, cabinet ministers talking about God. | |
| I mean, I've never heard anything like that in American politics. | |
| And, you know, I was a young guy in the Reagan White House. | |
| Reagan would refer to God. | |
| Once or twice, he'd talk about the man upstairs, but it was in this whimsical, generic tone. | |
| Here it was very clear. | |
| You're talking about people with very passionate conviction about returning to the principles of the Bible. | |
| Were you at all, Jake? | |
| Were you at all alarmed by any of it? | |
| Well, I was alarmed. | |
| You mean alarmed by the speeches or alarmed by the event, by Charlie's assassination? | |
| Yeah, by the event for the memorial? | |
| Yeah, kind of, because something was alarming to me about it. | |
| And I mean, it's one thing if the president and his cabinet were talking about a return to God and all that stuff that included all Americans, including Jewish Americans and, you know, Buddhist Americans and all like religious groups in America, because it's supposed to be a big tent, right? | |
| Right. | |
| But it seemed like it was only one group of Americans they were talking to. | |
| And then when they capped it off with Goebbels, I mean Tucker Carlson, it was like, oh, how do you expect to keep a big tent when you're doing crap like that? | |
| You know, and it was very alarming to me. | |
| Like, what are they doing to MAGA? | |
| Are they turning this into a Christian nationalist movement? | |
| Because really, I don't want any part of that. | |
| I don't want any part of a church and state, of something with no separation between church and state where there is a one religion sanctified by the government. | |
| That's not America, as I remember. | |
| No, I mean, I agree with this completely. | |
| I do think I wasn't bothered by it for this reason. | |
| I saw it not so much as a governmental event, but as a Charlie event that was a resonance of Charlie himself. | |
| In other words, it's a private event. | |
| You know, here's a guy. | |
| This is his funeral, really. | |
| Except it was a funeral with 100,000 people, which is not going to be your funeral or mine, I don't think. | |
| And so I think everybody got in the spirit of that. | |
| Now, weirdly, and my wife will corroborate this, I get up to march off to the bathroom, which going to the bathroom and that kind of rally is like a 30-minute process. | |
| I come back and like Tucker is in the middle of his speech. | |
| I missed the, you know, like the key part, but then, of course, the day after, I see all the commentary and so on. | |
| And, you know, I do think that there's something very bad going on here. | |
| I've known Tucker not well, but off and on for 30 years. | |
| In fact, when Tucker started out, he worked for a magazine and I was a managing editor of it. | |
| He came in as like an intern, but I left almost immediately after he came to go to the White House. | |
| So I met him, I knew him a little bit, and we've stayed in touch over the years. | |
| Last year, Tucker and I did a speaking tour in Australia together. | |
| We spoke in like eight cities and was like put on by this Australian billionaire. | |
| And he was perfectly cordial. | |
| None of this came up at all. | |
| We're talking about COVID, police state. | |
| We're talking about political targeting. | |
| We're talking about globalism. | |
| But then suddenly this eruption all in recent months. | |
| And it's put me in a very awkward position because I've been reluctant to call him out. | |
| He's someone I've known. | |
| And it also makes it look like our side is fighting. | |
| And yet, I don't see how one can ignore these trends because they have the potential, in my view. | |
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| They're spiritually corrosive. | |
| They're politically divisive inside of the Republican Party. | |
| They have the potential of destroying the MAGA movement. | |
| Yes, that's what I think. | |
| And they have the potential of doing a lot of harm to the country in general. | |
| So for all of that, the stakes are a lot bigger than Tucker. | |
| And this phenomenon has to be addressed. | |
| And I plan to be part of that. | |
| Yeah, me too. | |
| It's like, well, Tucker was, we were talking before about, and I don't know if you want to go into it, you don't have to if you don't want to, but Tucker was kind of brought in and he, well, he's like the, and has been for a long time. | |
| His, he, Candace, Nick Fuentis, they are kind of a cudgel against MAGA and the growing numbers of disaffected youth that are following all that, all that. | |
| It's MKUltra. | |
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| He is. | |
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| He's in his third kid, too. | |
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| And his crazy wife, who's my crazy sister-in-law. | |
| Me and Josh are in the trenches every day with our kids. | |
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| You know, to subtly be, what's the word? | |
| Inferring? | |
| No, when they're trying to seduced, subtly seduced into a subtly being Islamicized. | |
| That's what I see, which is like the UN Agenda 30s one world religion, which is Chrislam. | |
| So they're being Chrislamicized. | |
| And Chris Lam is the one world religion that big money, big power likes, because it's also, though, horrifically, the destruction of Christianity, the teachings of Jesus, and Judaism. | |
| And it's like a whole new thing pioneered in Jeremiah Wright's church, where they just are making up a whole new thing where American youth subtly being seduced into wanting to bring many more dearborns here and ultimately a caliphate. | |
| And that's how I see it. | |
| And it has paid ops that continually blame Israel, our ally of 30 years, and this country that we get our intelligence about the Middle East from, whether, you know, and of course it has rogue bad people in it too, just like our CIA does. | |
| But ultimately, that's where we get in our intelligence for around the world. | |
| And, you know, they're on the wrong side. | |
| And I think that it is the destruction of America's soul. | |
| And I'm horrified by it. | |
| And it just. | |
| You know, there's so many dimensions to this. | |
| I mean, first of all, the case for Israel is a biblical case. | |
| It is a moral case, by which I mean it's the root of Western civilization, Athens and Jerusalem. | |
| There is a practical case. | |
| When I've debated this issue, I start with the practical case. | |
| I basically go, look, you know, we give $3.8 billion to Israel. | |
| Frankly, much of that ends up in the pockets of the defense contractors. | |
| But more importantly, I don't know a better return on investment than that pittance of a money. | |
| You know, we give money all over the world, and people twiddle their thumbs, or they turn around and insult us, give us the middle finger. | |
| With Israel, we have a country on the front line that actually knows how to fight radical Islam and is doing it. | |
| America, I have to say, just based upon close spectatorial experience of the last 25 years, we do not know how to fight radical Islam at all. | |
| At all. | |
| We start out with Jimmy Carter. | |
| He pulls the Persian rock out from under the Shah. | |
| Whoops, we get Khomeini. | |
| That's how radical Islam gets a major state. | |
| America started it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Then after 9-11, we go over there with big pomp and circumstance, shock and awe. | |
| Boom, the Taliban is out of Afghanistan. | |
| But guess what? | |
| They're back. | |
| So you can't say we won that long term. | |
| And then, of course, Iraq is a big mess we don't have to go into. | |
| So we don't know what we're doing. | |
| And for 3.8 billion, you've got these like super sluts on the ground. | |
| You know, they got pages. | |
| Hello, Abdullah, be ready for our next attack. | |
| Kaboom. | |
| I mean, this is genius. | |
| I mean, I wish I thought of it. | |
| If our CIA did it, I would be beyond shocked because they don't know how to do it. | |
| So Israel's doing it. | |
| And then you have this cabal of people in this country who basically point the finger at Israel and go, you're the problem. | |
| It's downright insanity. | |
| Because I think in the real world, you don't get to choose between like the good guy and the bad guy. | |
| You're choosing between what's out there. | |
| And the choice right now is basically it's either Israel or it's radical Islam. | |
| And let's look at it from the radical Muslim point of view. | |
| They're the little Satan. | |
| We're the great Satan. | |
| So they actually understand how this all stacks up. | |
| Oh, they get it totally. | |
| They get it totally. | |
| But we don't. | |
| And I mean, I was just looking at the internet, I'm like, my God, they have totally censored any kind of sane opinion on the any kind of sane opinion about what's really going on in the Middle East, specifically Israel, what Israel's doing. | |
| They have censored anything sane about Israel on all, almost all fronts on YouTube, on BitChute. | |
| It's all just puked anti-Semitism everywhere. | |
| And I mean, they've won. | |
| And they've targeted the minds of the youth. | |
| And they're all going to be like, you know, listening to Candace and Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson. | |
| And I imagine Charlie Kirk was really bothered by that. | |
| I imagine he felt, they say, oh, he felt pressured by Israel, but he didn't have a lot of Jewish donors at all. | |
| And I think that he was feeling pressured by those people's rising numbers. | |
| Charlie's donors are: look, in any organization that is a youth organization, you have a constituency, which is young people, and you're going to get money from older people. | |
| So the older people are going to represent the mainstream of the Republican Party, which is pro-Israel. | |
| This may have a subset of Jews in it, but it's not primarily Jews. | |
| It's basically rich people of an older generation who believe in the Reaganite tradition that Israel is our best ally. | |
| So, yes, it's not the first time in the history of nonprofits that you got a guy navigating between a younger constituency that's, as you say, being kind of seduced or tempted away to an anti-Israel position, and then his money is coming from basically pro-Israel people. | |
| That's not going to get him assassinated. | |
| That's actually normal. | |
| When I was at AEI, you know, you'd have all these corporations that were giving us money, all right? | |
| And then the AEI economists who are free market guys would say, listen, we're against government bailouts, we're against any kind of subsidies, and all these companies would be like, wait a minute, we want subsidies for us. | |
| And so, tension between our free market constituency, that's why we exist, and of course, the donors who are corporate and generally support free markets. | |
| But on the other hand, if they can get something from the government, they're only too happy to take advantage of it. | |
| So, I think this was Charlie's predicament. | |
| But to go from that, which is a completely normal situation that he was trying to navigate, to somehow, you know, there was, take a look at this picture, guys. | |
| Here is a pipe that can be seen in the video of Charlie's assassination. | |
| I think there was like a Mossad guy who came out of that pipe. | |
| That was the real shooter. | |
| I mean, this kind of stuff is so idiotic and bad for our side. | |
| And so it's hard to see. | |
| But aren't there donors that pulled out because of Tucker Carlson before the assassination of Charlie? | |
| Of course. | |
| I mean, I was telling you just before we got started that I know one of them, probably Charlie's largest donor. | |
| And this is a guy who had sort of had it. | |
| And I think what it was is that at the beginning, he saw that, look, you know, Tucker's got a big following. | |
| A lot of Tucker's admirers became admirers, not because of the anti-Semitism, not because of his view of Israel. | |
| They were admirers when he was on Fox News. | |
| They supported him when he got fired. | |
| He was the ultimate poster boy of political incorrectness. | |
| This was the appeal of Tucker. | |
| Well, that's why we all liked him. | |
| That's why we all liked Tucker. | |
| You did a tour with him. | |
| I did. | |
| Not too long ago, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, yes, Charlie had a donor problem prior to all that. | |
| Because a lot of his donors did not like Tucker Carlson. | |
| Well, they also didn't like the degree of prominence. | |
| Like, they noticed that even after all this, even after Charlie had heard from like 30 people or 100 people, this is a problem. | |
| Like, who's the keynote speaker at their upcoming December conference? | |
| Tucker Carlson, who was right up there at the funeral. | |
| I mean, it's not easy to get that speaking slot, Tucker Carlson. | |
| So I think this is symbolic of a problem in the Republican Party. | |
| I do too. | |
| And one that has to be taken head on. | |
| Now, I think the problem with it a little bit is this, and that is that Tucker is the man who, quote, asks questions, right? | |
| That's how he says, I'm not taking a position. | |
| I'm only asking questions. | |
| Candace takes the, I would call it, and all of this is slightly comedic, but in a dark way, she's always conducting a personal investigation. | |
| She's like, I've got my journalists. | |
| I want to recruit you, my audience, to be journalists. | |
| Send me videos. | |
| We're going to get to the truth of the matter. | |
| Citizen journalism. | |
| Now, all of this has a kind of respectable patina. | |
| Veneer. | |
| It's a veneer because, first of all, this journalism never produces anything. | |
| It never actually comes to a conclusion. | |
| It actually never produces an incontestable fact where all of us can look at it and go, you know what? | |
| That is obviously true. | |
| We didn't know that before. | |
| We need to revise our previous understanding. | |
| It's never like that. | |
| It's always some extremely wacky theory that never goes anywhere and is replaced by another even more wacky theory. | |
| So this is the surreal world we are moving into. | |
| And I'm all for asking questions. | |
| In a way, it embarrasses me because most of the time. | |
| I want to do a citizen inquiry into the one thing Candace will never do, and that's the Catholic Church and its horrible record on child molestation and trafficking. | |
| Candace ought to look into that. | |
| Boy, that'd get her a lot more viewers. | |
| But I plan to do that and why she apologizes for all that and hides it. | |
| Well, the other thing about the church that has been very disturbing is the way in which, well, the Catholic Church was hit with a lot of lawsuits. | |
| They, I think, were facing in certain areas major bankruptcies. | |
| But then they discovered almost like a business, like another source of revenue, illegals, right? | |
| Because you can set up shop on the border as the group that navigates these massive caravans that come 2,000 miles and arrive at the U.S. charities brought them over. | |
| Catholic charities, Catholic charities basically became like an unbelievably lucrative revenue operation. | |
| And funded, by the way, not just funded by U.S. taxpayers indirectly, funded by NGOs, funded by international organizations. | |
| USAID. | |
| All of this stuff. | |
| And so this is the backdrop of all that. | |
| But let me put it this way. | |
| When I started my career, I was myself like a young Charlie Kirk, right? | |
| I was speaking on campuses. | |
| My first book was called Illiberal Education. | |
| And so I lived that life of three days, four days a week, going from one campus to the other, often flying cross-country. | |
| Of course, it was a different era. | |
| I never had to worry. | |
| I didn't think I genuinely worried about getting shot. | |
| At the most, I thought some guy will rush the stage and be intercepted by some overweight campus policeman. | |
| It's going to be okay. | |
| I'll live through it. | |
| But I've tried to be an iconoclast asking questions, but you have to ask questions in the right way, and you have to do it seeking truth. | |
| You're not asking questions to poison the well. | |
| And so when you have a guy who's asking questions like this, all right, well, you know, I just wonder whether we might have been better to ally with, you know, Hitler in World War II against Stalin. | |
| I'm like, wait a minute. | |
| Our grandfathers died fighting Hitler. | |
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| Right. | |
| And then, of course, you'll hear something like, you know, well, I'm not the only guy who's saying, oh, you know, Patton said that. | |
| No, Patton didn't say that. | |
| After the war, Patton said, having won the war and vanquished the Nazis, maybe we're going to have to deal with the Soviet Union now, and maybe we should march all our way to Moscow. | |
| That's a whole different thing. | |
| And so, but for young people who are amnesiac and don't know the nuances of all this, they go, oh, well, Patton said it really. | |
| So I think that this kind of asking of questions is not, as it needs to be, a search for truth and genuine debate. | |
| No, you said it. | |
| It's poisoning the well. | |
| And on so many different counts. | |
| The other thing that's going on, you've heard about this, is this whole notion. | |
| And here I'm going to go a little bit into the sort of the Christianity a little bit, replacement theology. | |
| Oh, it is replacement theology. | |
| Jeremiah Wright, the whole leftist thing all the way. | |
| Right. | |
| Now, I just want to state. | |
| AGB, color revolution. | |
| It's all the same. | |
| But let's look at it how this replacement theology is, just from the Christian point of view, extremely heretical and destructive. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Because, and I'm not coming at it from the point of view of like a Protestant dispensationalist. | |
| No, I mean, I see myself in the C.S. Lewis mode as like what he calls miracianity, which is the very mainstream, the basics of Christianity going back 2,000 years. | |
| And so in the mainstream of Christianity, we learned that the New Testament is in the old concealed, and the Old Testament is in the new revealed. | |
| In other words, the Old Testament and the New, the Hebrew scriptures and the Christian scriptures are joined at the hip. | |
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| They cannot be separated. | |
| They cannot be replaced. | |
| In fact, in Islam, as you know, there's a doctrine of abrogation, which is that like later verses cancel out the earlier verses, you know. | |
| And so, but nothing like that in Christianity. | |
| In Christianity, the Christians are engrafted into the Jewish root and they become, you could almost say, spiritual Israelites. | |
| That's a phrase Jonathan Kahn uses, and I like it. | |
| I like it a lot. | |
| But there is no question that somehow trying to cut off the Old Testament and push it away. | |
| And some of these Christians are like, yeah, but Jesus, but Jesus. | |
| Well, in Christian theology, there are three persons and one God, right? | |
| There's God the Father, there's God the Son, that's Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. | |
| Well, what are we going to do? | |
| Cut God the Father out? | |
| That's the Old Testament. | |
| And what, leave two people in the Trinity? | |
| I mean, if you tell this to the Pope, he would have a heart attack. | |
| He'd fall over. | |
| Well, maybe not the new Pope. | |
| Well, look, I mean, I like what I think it was, I don't remember if it was Benedict or if it was John Paul II. | |
| He said, listen, it is the Holy Land for everybody, but it is the promised land to the Jews. | |
| He was talking about Israel. | |
| So, look, we have a big fight on our hands. | |
| Muhammad says it too. | |
| Muhammad says it too. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Interesting. | |
| That's why we say they're actually all Zionists. | |
| They're all Zionists. | |
| They're all arguing over Jerusalem. | |
| It's not just the Jews. | |
| Christians, Islam, they all have a claim to that land, and they're all fighting for it. | |
| That's what we're witnessing today. | |
| Right. | |
| But the Christians don't want it. | |
| I mean, the Christians aren't trying to take the land politically, right? | |
| The Muslims want the physical control of the land. | |
| So in that sense, it's a little different. | |
| And look, so when we embarked on this film, quite honestly, we knew about October 7th. | |
| We knew about the biblical archaeology. | |
| We were entranced by Jonathan Kahn's introduction of elements of like biblical prophecy, the book of Revelation, very eye-opening stuff. | |
| In fact, the title, The Dragon's Prophecy, comes out of a passage where the dragon, which is Satan, is at war with a woman representing Israel. | |
| And so that's a kind of an image or metaphor for what's going on. | |
| But we didn't know that we would be facing these powerful currents, not only from the left, but from the right, that seek to delegitimize Israel and in effect help radical Islam. | |
| Now, I know why the left wants to help radical Islam. | |
| Well, I don't know entirely because, of course, think of what strange bedfellows those two were. | |
| I mean, it doesn't make any sense. | |
| Right, exactly. | |
| The LGBTQ people wouldn't survive very well under Sharia. | |
| Yeah, right. | |
| Tell them what your sister calls them. | |
| It's hilarious. | |
| Oh, my sister calls, she's gay, but she calls them rooftoppers. | |
| Rooftoppers. | |
| Yes, hello. | |
| There's the window. | |
| Keep walking. | |
| Anyway, sorry. | |
| They're so severely brainwashed that they're actually working a lemming program of their own destruction. | |
| I think from the left. | |
| But that's how I see it. | |
| It's anti-colonization, that's what it is. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Well, the left, I think, is the left doesn't know what it's doing, but the Muslims do. | |
| So the left thinks, listen, we got all these ethnic groups. | |
| They all, you know, these people identify as black and these people identify as LGBTQ and these people identify as feminists. | |
| And hey, these people identify as radical Muslims. | |
| So you're just another ethnic group. | |
| Of course, from the radical Muslim point of view, it's like, listen, we are outsiders to this society. | |
| We need someone to give us passports so we can kind of get in. | |
| We can get in the door. | |
| We can get on the school board. | |
| We can run for office. | |
| Someone needs to run cover for us when we do bad stuff and defend us in the name of free speech or legal process. | |
| We need lawyers to represent us and economy. | |
| All your freedoms, all Christian democracies' freedoms against them. | |
| And then get a dearborn right in the heart of it, you know. | |
| And then the mayor of Dearborn says last week, no Christians are allowed here. | |
| He didn't say no Jews are allowed here. | |
| He said no Christians are allowed here. | |
| And they want a dearborn in every state. | |
| And that's how they'll do it. | |
| All these gays are going, Israel is a, you know, it's so brilliant how they've done it. | |
| And now they have to do it on the right because they already got the whole left working for them. | |
| And now they're going to get the right working for them. | |
| You know, it's an exchange of money. | |
| Because none of them would do it for free because they're all hucksters. | |
| This is what I was going to say. | |
| And they'll do anything for money. | |
| People ask me, like, what's the motive? | |
| Now, I've debated Nick Fuentes. | |
| I think. | |
| You have? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Well, what happens was Nick Fuente is parading himself around and he's basically going, everybody's too scared to debate me. | |
| That makes me the alpha male. | |
| He goes, Tucker won't debate me. | |
| Ben Shapiro is too wimpy to debate me. | |
| He's like, Charlie's a wimp. | |
| So I'm like, I'll debate you. | |
| So I debated him. | |
| And it was very, he didn't look good, let's put it this way, because, of course, the guy, his scope of knowledge is like 13 years old, right? | |
| He'd say things like, regime change is always a bad idea, Dinesh. | |
| And I'd go, well, Nick, off the top of my head, I can give you 25 examples of where regime changes work beautifully. | |
| And I just start rattling them off. | |
| And then you can just look at the video. | |
| And I had to look at it later. | |
| If you look at his face, he's like, why did I get into this? | |
| And then, of course, his young audience is like, who the hell is this young? | |
| Who's this guy debating Nick? | |
| Because Nick was like their little, you know, King Arthur, Sir Galahad, you know, and they were, they're not used to seeing him like embarrassed. | |
| So that's Nick. | |
| Nick wants to be, Nick is proud of being an anti-Semite. | |
| But he claims, and this is part of his so-called witty shtick. | |
| He goes, well, I'm the intelligent anti-Semite. | |
| Like Candace is the low-grade anti-Semite. | |
| She's like the low-grade version of me. | |
| So that's Nick. | |
| Candace, I don't know as well. | |
| I was actually a regular speaker at her Blexit events because a lot of her Blexit stuff came out of films I did like Hillary's America, which kind of exposed the secret history of the Democratic Party, all the racism. | |
| All the racism. | |
| And so Candace loved me. | |
| I'd go to her events. | |
| But of course, that was a different Candace. | |
| I was going to say that's a different agenda. | |
| It's actually a different Candace. | |
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| And I don't quite know. | |
| I know that she has always wanted to be a cultural icon. | |
| She, even more than a political icon. | |
| It's like politics is a stepping stone to me becoming like Kanye West. | |
| So she aspires to move into that space. | |
| And I think she realized that this creates an electric cord with an audience that might open the door for that. | |
| So that's kind of my reading on Candace. | |
| Tucker, to me, is the most puzzling of all. | |
| Hard for me to see someone just doing it for the money. | |
| Tucker's from a wealthy family. | |
| He's very well off on his own. | |
| His wife is also very wealthy. | |
| He's not doing it for money at all. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, you know what I think about Tucker? | |
| Because he was a friend. | |
| I still tell him he's a friend and I'm trying to save his soul from going straight to hell and burning there for time and all eternity in a lake of fire, being, you know, anally raped by Satan every single day. | |
| But, you know, but, you know, because I still have feelings of love for him. | |
| But, you know, Tucker, I told him, you know, when you got attacked by that demon, you know, it took you because you changed then. | |
| And that demon, I know its name and I can help you. | |
| What is it? | |
| Just ask me. | |
| B-Lock. | |
| B-Lock. | |
| Uh-huh. | |
| Is B-lock? | |
| I'm trying to do that. | |
| B-Lock is the one that curses Israel. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| The donkey. | |
| Huh? | |
| The donkey, the biblical donkey. | |
| Well, Bilak and Bilam was the talking donkey. | |
| And, you know, Tucker does sound like he's talking out of his ass. | |
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| That demon did take him, and all that demon does is curse Israel. | |
| And that's what happened to Tucker. | |
| He's possessed. | |
| You know, 10 years ago, the idea that, you know, a guy like Tucker would be sort of possessed by a demon, it would seem to me so far-fetched, I wouldn't even know what to say about it. | |
| But as you know, the central theme of the dragon's prophecy is that there is, is that there is a world behind the world. | |
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| Yeah. | |
| And that there is a cosmic battle that is going on between God and Satan. | |
| Yes. | |
| Because people often say, it says in Torah that God created this world, that it would be the place where the war between God and the Satan took place. | |
| And it was to judge your soul. | |
| Which way are you going to go? | |
| And that's exactly what's happening as I see it. | |
| Me too. | |
| And part of the genius. | |
| And people fall. | |
| You see people fall right before your eyes on TV every day. | |
| And we're supposed to, the reason, Jew, where it says, you know, where it says the chosen and all that stuff that everybody doesn't know anything about, what that means is chosen to witness, chosen to witness how Torah unfolds in the world and how it comes true. | |
| And that's what the dragon's prophecy is about too. | |
| Seeing how the word happens and how it manifests in the world. | |
| And you see people fall off and they go the way of death. | |
| They choose death, not life. | |
| So, you know, and you're seeing it every day. | |
| And I always tell people, your job is to witness. | |
| Your job is to see it. | |
| But, you know, they don't see it. | |
| They go, Laudi Da, I wonder what the Queen of England's up to. | |
| Or, you know, how big Kim Kardashian's butt got this week. | |
| They're not witnessing what's right in front of them, that the wicked are falling right and left. | |
| I mean, they're undoing themselves on television in front of us every day. | |
| Comey, we've waited all these years for, you know, the people who betrayed our country and overthrew the Republic of the United States of America and took so many years to do it are coming to judgment now. | |
| We're seeing it. | |
| We're seeing it and that we're not witnessing it. | |
| And the people who know are BSing us about how it's all Trump's fault on Jimmy Kimball's show saying, oh, Trump, you know, telling us it's Israel, it's Trump, you know, because they don't want us to witness what's right before our eyes and is very obvious. | |
| I mean, I'm watching MSNBC and they keep using two words, retribution and vengeance. | |
| Right. | |
| Now, first of all, I am a strong believer that retribution is the very essence of justice. | |
| Of course. | |
| And what I mean by that is all justice is based on retribution, right? | |
| What goes around comes around. | |
| What you did will be done to you. | |
| And not only that, but rival theories of justice make no sense. | |
| Sometimes people say, well, Dinesh justice is really based on deterrence. | |
| Well, deterrence has nothing to do with the perpetrator or the victim. | |
| Deterrence means let's calibrate the punishment so some third guy, uninvolved in the situation, is going to have his motive structured right so he will or will not be more likely to do it. | |
| But that's nothing to do with the justice of the situation itself. | |
| And the other thing is these guys keep talking about retribution and vengeance, and I'm thinking to myself, retribution for what? | |
| What did you do to this guy that makes him want to be in a mood of retribution? | |
| Yeah, they always erase the agent and the crime. | |
| Right. | |
| Or they turn it upside down. | |
| You know, they do a switch like when you turn the... | |
| Inversion. | |
| Yeah, but you've got the sand that runs through. | |
| Oh, the hourglass. | |
| The hourglass turn. | |
| The flip. | |
| You go, oh, you aren't the victim, you're the aggressor. | |
| And this is the essence of, I think this is the essence, because the essence of evil is not the opposite of good. | |
| The essence of evil is the inversion, where good becomes evil, evil becomes good. | |
| If you can pull that off, now you're like an A student of Satan. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| And that is where our culture is today. | |
| I think the thing is that Satan is not strong enough to defeat God, right? | |
| Of course not. | |
| No. | |
| So what does Satan do? | |
| He always targets the beloved of God. | |
| And his idea is, if I can ruin them, I get the last laugh. | |
| I still don't win, but at least I get a major chuckle on God. | |
| I've one-upped him in this case. | |
| So the whole meaning of Genesis 1, to me, the story of the garden, Adam and Eve, is exactly that. | |
| Satan targets God's beloved creation, which is man. | |
| I think for the exact same reason, Satan targets the Jews. | |
| The Jews are the chosen of God. | |
| All right, let's destroy them. | |
| Let's take their holy temple that Solomon built, was rebuilt by Herod. | |
| Let's go stick the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock on top as a victory arch. | |
| And let's see if we can push the Jews out from the river to the sea. | |
| Now... | |
| Because God said, I give you the land between the river and the sea. | |
| That's it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so why the secular, godless, leftist for this is one thing, but to see people in the name of Christianity, in the name of the good, the true, and the beautiful signing up for this, this is the real scandal right now. | |
| I agree. | |
| It definitely is, and it will bring America down. | |
| And, you know, it will destroy America's soul. | |
| Israel, and, you know, I'm terrified of that because I love America, and I don't want to see that happen like it happened to every other nation that did that. | |
| Israel will be fine. | |
| Like, you want to get rid of Israel? | |
| Fine. | |
| You won't destroy Israel. | |
| Israel will merely pivot to India and make it the technological giant of the world. | |
| It's America that will fall. | |
| Well, first of all, Israel's in the Bible, and America isn't. | |
| So what that tells you right away is that to the degree you accept the Bible or believe it, it is a, there's an unfolding of events, and Israel is at the center of it. | |
| The United States'position is going to be judged by which side we take. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Right? | |
| Now, we know that the architecture of this country, going back to the founders and long before, they didn't come to this country empty-handed. | |
| So we're afraid, and we did this. | |
| They came bringing Athens and Jerusalem. | |
| Athens, we know all about it. | |
| It's Socrates, it's philosophy, it's the Greek theater, it's democracy, Pericles. | |
| But Jerusalem is the controversial part because Jerusalem is based upon this astounding idea of God's revelation, right? | |
| And I think the Bible to me is a fascinating document because it doesn't prove anything, it just asserts it. | |
| In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. | |
| And I remember when I was reading this and reading it as a young adult, like at 17, I'm like, who's talking? | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| It doesn't say in the beginning, I created the heavens and the earth. | |
| So there is a witness, to use your word, a witness to these events, but who is that witness? | |
| And on what basis are you supposed to like accept it or believe it? | |
| This is where I think the archaeology stuff is so fascinating because for centuries, I mean, if you go back to 1985 and someone were to say to you, prove to me definitively not using the Bible that there was a King David, you couldn't do it. | |
| No, they couldn't do it for Jeremiah, Isaiah, and not only that, minor figures in the Bible. | |
| I'll just give one example because this to me is so interesting. | |
| In about the sixth or seventh century BC, you have the prophet Jeremiah, and he's out on the streets. | |
| He's railing against the king, a guy named Zedekiah. | |
| And Jeremiah basically goes, You better straighten up because otherwise the kingdom from the north, the Babylonians, are going to invade. | |
| They're going to destroy this kingdom. | |
| You're going to be ruined. | |
| So the king doesn't believe it, but he's nervous with this guy, Jeremiah. | |
| So he picks two dudes at the court. | |
| One is Gedaliah son of Pashur, and the other is Jehukal son of Shelemiah. | |
| Minor figures in the Bible, barely mentioned in the Hebrew scriptures. | |
| He goes, Go keep an eye on Jeremiah. | |
| Make sure he's not causing me too much trouble. | |
| Fast forward 2,500 years. | |
| And recently, they're digging in the city of David, and they find 51 seals out of the ground, clay seals that are used to seal documents. | |
| The documents are lost, but the seals are preserved. | |
| And one of the seals, Jehukal son of Shalamiah. | |
| The other one, Gedaliah, son of Pashur. | |
| Boom. | |
| Suddenly, like out of the Bible, jump these two guys into the face of history. | |
| And suddenly you realize there really was a Jehukal. | |
| There really was a Gedalia. | |
| There really was a Jeremiah, and there really was a Zedekiah. | |
| And all these events, you can disagree with the theology, you can reject the miracles, but the fact of the matter is the historicity of the Bible is being proved every day. | |
| Well, that's why they put the golden dome on top, because what's underneath that proves all the history of the Bible, and they don't want us to get to it. | |
| And you can't dig there. | |
| No. | |
| Right. | |
| But, you know, something will happen, and, you know, God will, God's got it all figured out how the movie will go. | |
| Yeah, I mean, you're right. | |
| Earthquake stuff. | |
| Was this the earthquake stuff? | |
| Well, I've thought for a long time because, you know, I studied the Torah and, you know, and plus, I'm kind of crazy and I dream things. | |
| Go for it. | |
| Something's about to come out. | |
| Like, like, you're about to discord. | |
| No, I see things and then they happen. | |
| My son knows it and my family knows it. | |
| But, you know, about all five, I don't know how long ago, because time doesn't work for me. | |
| But I just said there's going to be a big earthquake in Jerusalem. | |
| And, you know, I just thought that. | |
| And then so I was studying the star of Jacob that came Friday night and my mom saw it. | |
| She said the whole sky was whirling in colors. | |
| And, you know, and I told her about it, then I fell asleep. | |
| But my mom did see it. | |
| And so, you know, and it's Atlas 3i2 and all that stuff with the seven comets coming. | |
| Some say the star of Bethlehem returning, all this stuff. | |
| But it also, because when the UN, when all those nations voted for the Palestinian state, you know, on target, that was the kickoff of Gagamagog. | |
| And so that's a sign of Messiah. | |
| So it says that after, and also in Zohar, it predicts that comet to the day, the 27th, on a Friday, it predicts it to the date. | |
| And the star of Jacob. | |
| So it says that after the star of Jacob, after Gagamagog comes the star of Jacob, and 70 days after that, we'll find out I'm right. | |
| But I read it, it goes, an earthquake hits Jerusalem. | |
| And I went, wow, there's another thing that I thought. | |
| And then I read. | |
| But so now we'll see if it's right. | |
| Let's time stamp this podcast. | |
| Okay, so it says 70 days after Gogmagog's onset and the star of Jacob comes 70 days after that comes, earthquake and a major earthquake in Jerusalem, and shortly thereafter comes Messiah. | |
| So we'll see. | |
| But that's what it says. | |
| Well, you know, this is how the future connects weirdly with the past, because there is currently a debate between two groups of scholars about the location of Sodom and Gomorrah. | |
| There is a San Francisco? | |
| No, okay. | |
| Good one. | |
| Good one. | |
| That may be the modern day recreation of it. | |
| Where does it say? | |
| Well, all right. | |
| So Sodom historically was believed to be at the southern end of the Dead Sea on the Jordan side of the Dead Sea on the southern tip. | |
| That's where Albright, one of the founders of biblical archaeology, thought it was. | |
| And that place was destroyed by a massive earthquake at right about the right time. | |
| This is what kind of brought it to my mind. | |
| But this is kind of how this is a fascinating element of biblical archaeology. | |
| Another group of archaeologists said the site cannot be there because in the Bible it says that Abraham and Lot were standing on a mountain and they decided, you know, one of you go this direction, the other go that direction. | |
| And it says, and Lot looked toward the Jordan Valley, right? | |
| And he saw that it was very fertile. | |
| And then he moved in that direction, quote, as far as Sodom. | |
| So according to these biblical archaeologists, they're like, you can't see the southern end of the Dead Sea from this spot. | |
| What you can see is the northern end of the Dead Sea. | |
| And so Sodom, if the Bible is right, would need to be there. | |
| So they go and start digging. | |
| Sure enough, as they dig, they find ashes, people blown to smithereens. | |
| Now, interestingly, that destruction, which also happens at the same time, this is why there's a debate. | |
| Both cities were totally destroyed. | |
| But in the case of the northern location, seemingly by some sort of a meteoric blast, where the meteor disintegrated in the sky, and essentially everything was obliterated completely into ash, and the remnants of the ash are there. | |
| So the key to the biblical archaeology is not the Bible says it, therefore it has to be here. | |
| It's the Bible says it, so let's go and take a look. | |
| It's a beautiful marriage of sort of theology and science. | |
| Yeah, that's what it is. | |
| That's exactly what it is. | |
| And that's why when I came across it, Debbie and I were looking at each other. | |
| We're like, why isn't this being shouted from the rooftops of every synagogue and church? | |
| Because we're not, you know, young people are trained in the language of history and of secular reason. | |
| And I feel that almost as if, as the world has become more secular, as the world has pulled away from God, it's like God is like, all right, I'm going to send you a message, but I'm going to send it to you in your modern secular language through science, and you're going to be looking at seals and stones and tablets. | |
| And you're not going to know what to do with it because all this stuff that you thought was mythical, you know, you have these literary critics in the 19th century sitting around going, the Bible was written hundreds of years later by people who made half this stuff up. | |
| Let's test that. | |
| If you lived 300 years after King Zedekiah, would you have known the names of these two junior officials at the court? | |
| There's no way you would have known that. | |
| That's right. | |
| It had to have the information by someone very close to those events. | |
| And this can be said of the entire Hebrew, and I would add Christian scriptures. | |
| There's authenticity to it. | |
| I would say every modern scientific discovery and archaeological discovery only proves the existence of the truth in the Bible and of God. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So the skeptics now are reduced to, well, we still haven't found Noah's Ark. | |
| We still haven't found the Tower of Babel. | |
| Okay, granted, we haven't found certain things. | |
| But let's ask this question. | |
| Can you cite, and I do this in the film to an old guy who's been doing archaeology for 40 years in Israel? | |
| I go, Can you name a single archaeological finding that disputes or contradicts the Bible? | |
| And he's like, no. | |
| And in fact, none exists. | |
| So this alone is very telling because applying the old idea of the philosopher Karl Popper, refutation is the essence of science. | |
| If you haven't found Noah's Ark, well, keep looking. | |
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| It might turn up 50 years from now. | |
| Maybe it was destroyed. | |
| So that proves nothing. | |
| But if you can find something where the Bible says X and you can now prove Y, well, then you've got a point. | |
| But they don't have a point. | |
| Well, You know, in deep teachings, it says that, you know, the messianic, you know, the messianic times will be where it all goes together, where God is proven by science, and science is affected by that. | |
| But, you know, like I can't remember who says it, but that hell is the place where there is no reason. | |
| Don't you love that? | |
| I love that. | |
| I love that. | |
| But all of our stuff is going to come together. | |
| Where science and the belief in God are going to be the very same thing. | |
| That's what I think is our next, I hate to say evolution, but growth, acknowledgement, healing of all the splits we got in us. | |
| It's so true. | |
| Yeah, no, it's absolutely right. | |
| So, you know, I think we're at a moment now, much more than I've seen in my lifetime, where the political, the cultural, the moral, the spiritual are all these rivers are intersecting. | |
| And we sort of now have to look at the events in front of us through all these prisms. | |
| One of them is not sufficient. | |
| For example, the Middle East. | |
| People have been trying to solve the Middle East politically for 50 years or more. | |
| I remember when I first came to America, there was a Carter peace plan, and there was a Reagan plan, the Clinton plan, the Obama, of course, you know, about Obama. | |
| No one has fixed it, right? | |
| If they would just shut up and let God fix it, it'd get fixed real quick. | |
| But, you know, the people that are in the way, the fixers, you know, they don't have the right mentality or heart to fix nothing because they're just in there for the grift. | |
| Let's be real. | |
| If people of God got together and just prayed together and let things alone, I think that would be the big fix. | |
| I think also I'm finding on social media these days, like the depth of ignorance is very deep. | |
| Oh, it's deeper than I ever feared. | |
| So people say, like, the Jews don't really belong in that land, but you know what? | |
| The Palestinians do. | |
| Well, let's take a minute for, let's put the Jews aside for a moment. | |
| Let's look at the Palestinian side. | |
| That area called Gaza, right? | |
| Which was Philistine territory. | |
| And granted, there is this kind of onomatological or name similarity between the Philistines and the Palestinians, but it should be very clear. | |
| Those are not the same people. | |
| So the Philistines were called the Sea Peoples. | |
| They came from Europe. | |
| They came from the Aegean. | |
| They were from places like Cyprus. | |
| So they inhabited that land. | |
| Palestinians are just Arabs who essentially either colonized or infiltrated that land, and they didn't even do so as Palestinians. | |
| Recently, when I did a conversation in Jerusalem a few weeks ago with Moab Hassan Yousf, the son of Oaz. | |
| Yeah, this guy, I love the fact that he's like Dinush. | |
| He's like, there's no such thing as a Palestinian. | |
| He's like, there's Palestinianism. | |
| And I'd never heard that term. | |
| I was like, Palestinianism, that's interesting. | |
| He's like, there is an ideology, but there isn't, in fact, I mean, as you know, as well as anyone else, but maybe the audience doesn't all know, the name Palestine was inflicted on the Jews by the Romans as a punishment. | |
| Yes, absolutely. | |
| The Jews are doing the Jewish revolts. | |
| The Romans are, we'll teach you a lesson. | |
| Let's take the name of your ancient enemy, Philistine, and we're going to rename your country, your nation, Palestine. | |
| That's how we get Palestine until the Egyptian Yasser Arafat goes, nice name. | |
| I think we're going to call ourselves Palestinians. | |
| Well, he got it from the Mufti of Jerusalem, who was Hitler's friend. | |
| And they, you know, brainwashed him and raised him. | |
| He was a royal Egyptian. | |
| He was of the royal house of Egypt. | |
| And, you know, they invented this whole way to rid not only, they wanted to chase all the Jews from Europe to the Middle East and kill them there. | |
| It was a continuum. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And the Arabs fought for Germany in the Middle East. | |
| And everybody wants to forget that. | |
| But Glenn Beck, he has a museum and he has the uniform of the Arabs who fought for the Third Reich. | |
| And it's the sword of Islam over the swastika. | |
| And people don't want to know that either. | |
| But, you know, that's what jihad is, is the Reich. | |
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| Yeah, and you see it, I think, in October 7th. | |
| Definitely. | |
| One of our decisions in this film is: how do we start the film? | |
| And I'm like, well, if you're making a movie about World War II and the Pacific War, you have to start with Pearl Harbor. | |
| That's what got it going. | |
| So we want to start with October 7th. | |
| And I think the most significant thing about October 7th is that it was filmed by Hamas. | |
| We make the point in the film that even the Nazis did not array their atrocities in Germany. | |
| They hid them. | |
| And they put all the death camps in Poland and occupied territories, whereas Hamas was really proud of what it did. | |
| And so the eerie feeling of watching the film when you start it is you're seeing it, but you're not seeing it from the point of view of the victims. | |
| Normally, if you're showing a home invasion, it's the people in the house, but you're seeing it from the point of view of the home invaders. | |
| Almost like you have a GoPro and you're riding into Israel with Hamas. | |
| Why? | |
| Because they're filming it. | |
| And I also think what's really eerie is we were in like Nahalaz, the kibbutz. | |
| So we're talking to Leishai Moran, whose husband is a hostage. | |
| In fact, I just saw it on social media just minutes ago before we started talking that Hamas is now claiming they can't find him, that he's, quote, disappeared. | |
| They've lost him, right? | |
| But we're talking to Le Shai, and we're standing like 700 yards from the Gaza border. | |
| You can actually hear bombs, machine gun fire going off in the background. | |
| And, you know, Leishai is talking about what happened on that day, how these guys came through the window. | |
| They're heavily armed. | |
| She and her husband and two children ran into the safe room. | |
| So the terrorists go next door and there's a teenage boy over there. | |
| They grab him and they bring him over and they tell him, listen. | |
| So the teenage boy knocks on the door and says, please open the door because if you don't open the door, they're going to kill me and then they're going to kill you. | |
| So they open the door, right? | |
| But as we're talking, and all of this is in the film, Debbie says, we actually have that footage. | |
| In other words, from all the live streaming that Hamas did while Le Shai is talking, it's not a case that we're recreating it. | |
| We have the original footage. | |
| You can actually see the people coming in the window. | |
| You can see them in our house. | |
| So the event comes alive. | |
| And this to me is the essence of good filmmaking. | |
| In my earlier 2000 meals, I wanted to show the 2020 election fraud by putting you on the scene. | |
| You're standing there. | |
| Here's a male in Dropbox. | |
| Here's a guy pulling up in a car in the middle of the night. | |
| He like looks left and right to make sure no one sees him. | |
| He's got a big backpack of ballots. | |
| You can see it. | |
| I don't have to tell you about it. | |
| And the same here. | |
| I want people to at least to a limited degree experience October 7. | |
| And that's why we've got like, we have a little bit of a graphic warning. | |
| And it is a little arresting, but it's not, it's something we need to watch. | |
| It's essential for a right understanding of what's going on. | |
| Well, it's a snuff film. | |
| And, you know, when Israel wanted to enter it into a Canadian film festival, they wouldn't allow them to because they said they didn't get this for satanic. | |
| That it was Hamas owns the footage. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| And they denied it. | |
| Have you guys got permission from Hamas? | |
| That's what they said. | |
| Really? | |
| And so Israel said, no, we don't have permission from Hamas. | |
| Well, then we'll have to expel you from the film festival because the footage belongs to Hamas. | |
| It's their intellectual property. | |
| So that's like putting, if Ted Bundy had filmed all of his murders and, you know, dismemberments of these women, that's like they would put that film out and people would watch it and identify with Ted Bundy. | |
| If that isn't some satanic mind control, I don't know what is. | |
| It's to get people to identify with the aggressor and the murderer. | |
| I mean, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying, and that's what happened, because people saw the girl's body. | |
| They saw the girl's bloody pants. | |
| They saw her broken in half. | |
| And the day after, worldwide, it popped up with tents, with the same signs. | |
| On October 8th, worldwide. | |
| Like, does a grassroots movement pop up overnight worldwide with the same signs, the same tense? | |
| Everything. | |
| Does that happen? | |
| Or was that planned for a really long time? | |
| And it was. | |
| And they're cheering for murder and rape. | |
| And Israel becomes the only, the raped Israelis become the only women on earth who are denied the ability to name their rapists under international law. | |
| I mean, if this isn't satanic, I don't know what is. | |
| Well, I think it also helps to italicize the true test of anti-Semitism. | |
| I say this because, as you know, a lot of young people have become a little like resistant, like, because they think that if you say anti-Semite, you're trying to shot them up, prevent them from asking questions. | |
| Hey, I refuse to be silenced, blah, blah, blah. | |
| I can, and I'm allowed to criticize the Israeli government by saying women, these Israeli women deserve to be raped and they're demonic. | |
| Well, I'm sorry, but that isn't criticizing the Israeli government. | |
| Right. | |
| That's something way different. | |
| So, the standard, I think this is a, it ties right into what you were saying: is, look, if you are applying a different standard to the Jews and to Israel than you apply to anyone else, then boom, your motives are suspect right there. | |
| So, let's take an example. | |
| Nobody denies that when the Japanese came and pulverized Pearl Harbor, the United States was A, correct to be outraged, B, correct to declare war on Japan. | |
| You can debate whether the atomic bomb should have been dropped, but even the people who say the atomic bombs should not have been dropped agree that a U.S. land invasion of Japan, which was the alternative, would have been legitimate. | |
| So, no one said things like, well, let's count the number of civilians who were killed at Pearl Harbor, and then let's limit U.S. retaliation to exactly that number. | |
| And if the U.S. goes above that number, this is a moral horror, and the United States now becomes the villain, and Japan becomes the victim. | |
| No one takes this position, but they take the position on October 7th. | |
| So, that tells me something's up. | |
| Because suddenly, the standard, or even apply the same logic individually, right? | |
| If I'm in my house with my family, we're all eating dinner, and some home invaders come breaking in. | |
| They like start firing shots, they kill my wife, they rape my daughter, they do this and that, then they run away, and then I grab my gun, I chase after them. | |
| They go into a car or a van, they come out, they've got their own kids, and they grab their own kids and stick them in front of them. | |
| And they go, You can't shoot because you're not allowed to shoot civilians. | |
| I got some civilians right here. | |
| Most people would say they are the ones putting their own kids in danger. | |
| You have every right to retaliate. | |
| It's not your job to watch out for their kids, it's their job to put their kids to the side and face you straight out. | |
| So, this is such a miniature replication of what's going on with Hamas. | |
| And the idea that you could blame the victim of the home invasion, in this case, Israel is just morally preposterous. | |
| And yes, satanic. | |
| It's satanic. | |
| It is satanic. | |
| It is an inversion. | |
| And also, what other army do they go? | |
| Did you feed the people that are holding your hostages and keeping the war going? | |
| Are you giving them enough food every day? | |
| Let me give, let me, I was watching, Debbie and I were watching this about a year ago. | |
| Netflix had a very interesting documentary in World War II, new footage of a lot of those bombing raids. | |
| And I will never forget this conversation with one of the bombing commanders. | |
| He said he was dispatched on a bombing raid and he looks at his orders and he's asked to hit a target. | |
| I think this was either Dresden or Hamburg. | |
| And he goes, What's the target? | |
| And they go, There are 20,000 women and children sheltering in this building. | |
| And he goes, I'm not going to bomb a building with 20,000 women and children. | |
| They don't have anything to do with this. | |
| They're not combatants in this war. | |
| And his general goes, it's an order. | |
| And so the guy goes, So I did it because he goes, I didn't have a choice. | |
| But he goes, I haven't been able to live with it to this day. | |
| Now, my point is, in the logic of World War II, and let's remember, Churchill and FDR were very concerned that the German public supported Hitler and they were hanging with Hitler to the end and that the German refusal to surrender was coming in part from the fact that the German public was saying no. | |
| We think we can turn it around. | |
| And so the, and here we're not even talking, Israel doesn't even do this. | |
| We're talking about a direct targeted attack on civilians to break the will of the German people. | |
| I think probably, I mean, it's a horrific thing. | |
| There's no question about it. | |
| Churchill thought there was no alternative to doing it. | |
| And this is part of the dirtiness of war. | |
| But again, Israel goes out of its way. | |
| We were talking to guys who go, you know, you can't imagine how many both soldiers and Israeli dogs have been killed because they planned all these devices. | |
| So it's much easier to carpet bomb Gaza, but they don't do it. | |
| They're doing it almost with moral scruples all the way, and they're getting blamed for it. | |
| Yeah, so that's why everybody's mad over in Israel at Bibi, because why didn't they're like, why didn't you just go all out and start dragging it out all this time? | |
| Because obviously they never released the hostages. | |
| So that means they didn't want the war to end because who steals hostages and then refuses to release them even though they're losing? | |
| Who keeps the war going? | |
| I mean, the guilty. | |
| Certainly not victims of genocide. | |
| Certainly not people who say they're the victims, who hold the keys to the end of the war in their hands and their tunnels. | |
| And then people are still like the poor, those poor perpetrators, those poor, murderers, rapists, and baby killers, those poor, poor people. | |
| They could end the war in a second. | |
| It's Satanism. | |
| I think I just satanic and they all are brainwashed and they won't survive. | |
| The farther they go down that road, young people, the farther you go down that road, the worse it's going to get for you. | |
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| And, you know, I want to wake them up. | |
| I really, really do because I like children. | |
| I hate to see them used to destroy themselves in some lemming programming. | |
| American boys that listen to Nick Fuentes and all those people, they got to get some balls. | |
| He's just taking their balls away because he's obviously gay as hell. | |
| Everybody knows it. | |
| All these guys are, I won't even go into that, but, you know, they got to stand up and get some balls for their country because they don't want to lose their rights. | |
| They don't want to lose America. | |
| They don't want it to become a caliphate for God's sake, just because they have secret fantasies of wearing pink panties and skirts. | |
| They better turn man. | |
| They better man up. | |
| I'm telling you, get off those games and man up. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, the pastors need to speak up more. | |
| They have themselves. | |
| Or step aside. | |
| I mean, if you're on the devil's side, may God remove you. | |
| I don't mean from the earth, but from power and any kind of position. | |
| And just may you be replaced by a patriot who really knows what America is about. | |
| That's my prayer for it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A lot of these guys are just, you know, this is a controversial topic. | |
| You know, I don't want people to be leaving my congregation over this. | |
| Pink panties. | |
| Wearing pink panties, I tell you. | |
| It's the, no, it's, I mean, put it this way. | |
| Like, what is your business? | |
| I mean, you're in the business of morality. | |
| Supposed to be saving. | |
| Supposed to be lifting morals and souls, not denigrating them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Not rubbing men's face in the dirt and saying, you know, you've got to help people who want to kill you. | |
| Now, I got to tell, I got to have you explain. | |
| Jake, you sent me a beautiful note after you and your mom saw this film. | |
| I got to say, it was one of the most moving things I've seen. | |
| I write it to Debbie Elliott. | |
| He used ChatGPT to write that. | |
| That's right. | |
| It wasn't even me. | |
| Bro, we were chatting. | |
| We write something moving for Don Ash. | |
| You're going to keep him happy. | |
| We just watch this film. | |
| We'll talk about it. | |
| I wanted to thank you for setting me up. | |
| I was just going to do this. | |
| We've got to talk about the film before he leaves because you have been. | |
| No, I know. | |
| All the meat and material. | |
| But I mean, specifically this film. | |
| It's beautiful. | |
| We loved it. | |
| Mind-blown. | |
| And I just got to tell you that the message I sent you from us was, of course, real. | |
| It wasn't ChatGPT. | |
| But we were truly touched because, you know, as you can see, we're very passionate about this. | |
| We talk about this every week. | |
| We've been seeing this since the beginning, and we don't feel like there's other people that validate our opinions. | |
| We feel alone a lot of the times. | |
| And we'll go out and we'll talk to people. | |
| Even Tucker, you're not even the Jews of the Bible or whatever these people are saying, which is terrifying shit. | |
| So to see an actual movie that touches on the Bible, you touch on archaeology, all the stuff we talk, but it validates what we've been saying really did touch us because we didn't feel alone after. | |
| We felt like, okay, there are good people out there that see it too. | |
| And I can't tell you how good that feels. | |
| I mean, I'm getting emotional. | |
| It's a scary time. | |
| It's a very scary time. | |
| I have young children, and I needed that so deeply. | |
| So thank you so much. | |
| Because I'm like, is this a time for Jews to leave America? | |
| I mean, maybe. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm not going to leave. | |
| We have guns now. | |
| I'm not scared this time. | |
| We have guns, but it is terrifying that it's the right wing. | |
| That's the one thing the right and left agree on is the hatred of Jews. | |
| They disagree on everything. | |
| They hate each other. | |
| They're mortal enemies. | |
| And even after Charlie Kirk's shooting, I said this on the podcast last week. | |
| We've been waiting for this moment as Republicans for so long. | |
| We finally have it now. | |
| The moral authority to say the left is the violent ones. | |
| The violence is coming from you. | |
| Totally. | |
| We can win the next 10 elections. | |
| We've fought so hard. | |
| And as soon as it happened, Candace, Tucker, Nick Quentin, they turned their cameras on and they go, it was the Jews. | |
| And they blew it. | |
| They blew MAGA. | |
| Right. | |
| And this is a point that a lot of these young MAGA people don't get. | |
| Okay, so let's look at the Charlie Kirk assassination. | |
| You've got this twisted kid who is so-called dating a trans, whatever that even means. | |
| You know, our theory, Debbie's in mind, is that some of this trans stuff is these are basically people who are gay, but they're raised in a conservative household. | |
| That's right. | |
| So they think they have to go trans. | |
| Right. | |
| So they basically go, well, you know, think of this kid. | |
| He was raised in a law enforcement household. | |
| I'm sure his parents were like, what? | |
| You're gay. | |
| So he's like, no, I'm not gay. | |
| I'm actually dating a woman. | |
| True, it's, you know, I forget the guy's name, but, you know, it's a man becoming a woman, but, you know, but we're in our own way mirroring the heterosexual lifestyle. | |
| Anyway, and then you have all these reports which remain to be investigated that there were these trans chat groups that knew about it beforehand. | |
| They're like, something big is going to happen tomorrow. | |
| This is like on the record. | |
| 100%. | |
| And they had a book on Amazon two days before. | |
| Yeah, that is true too. | |
| Oh, and then leave aside, basically carving your motives on the bullets. | |
| You know, this is something I've never even heard of, which is like, catch this fascist. | |
| And so we got him. | |
| And it's like dead to rights. | |
| And then just when you're like, okay, you know what? | |
| This is the time to crack down on Antifa. | |
| Some of these trans groups have this military training. | |
| They train for violence. | |
| Okay, we need to stop this stuff. | |
| And then right at that moment, from the right, unexpectedly, like your right window gets blown out. | |
| And you've got these people whom some of whom you, I mean, in our case, we know. | |
| We don't know Nick Fuentes, but we know Candace, we know Tucker. | |
| And suddenly you're getting a, no, it's not the trans, it's not the trans leftist. | |
| It's Netanyahu. | |
| It's Mossad. | |
| And it's not organic. | |
| You can feel it's not organic. | |
| It comes from a very weird place. | |
| And even Ian Carroll we had on the show, I tell people all this time, we had met him outside. | |
| We had him on the show. | |
| Everyone was mad at us. | |
| But outside, I'm like, what is going on? | |
| Because I wanted to debate him. | |
| Yeah, no, and he was respectful to his credit. | |
| But I got him. | |
| We did. | |
| But the point was, he had said, he said to me, and I tell this all the time, even he knew it's not organic. | |
| He said the Fuenta stuff, this movement that he's a part of, I can tell you it's not organic. | |
| That's what he said to me. | |
| It's manufactured. | |
| So even he knows that. | |
| Let's talk about the Qatar angle here a little bit. | |
| They own all our universities, our State Department. | |
| They're heavy and they're Obamaites. | |
| Who's, honey, who was I talking to the other day? | |
| And the guy goes, he goes, Dunesh, she goes, you know, listen, he goes, I can tell you that Israel has a lot of influence because I'm constantly being invited on free trips to Israel. | |
| And I've never been invited on a free trip to Qatar. | |
| And I was like, that's because the Qataris, first of all, they are going after the institutions at the root. | |
| Yeah, they're not going to invite you on a free trip. | |
| That's because they own the political science department at like 12 major universities. | |
| They endow chairs. | |
| They take over these institutions. | |
| They put a lot of money into Hollywood. | |
| So, I mean, you're talking about, first of all, 2 billion people in the Muslim world. | |
| You're talking about massively oil-rich countries. | |
| Qatar, you know, the Qataris basically joke that they're the chosen people because none of them have to work. | |
| And basically, oil comes out of the ground and it's like dollar bills are flying into the air. | |
| And they're like, obviously, God must have liked what he saw when he saw Medi Made Us. | |
| So these people are using their, and who was the guy? | |
| Oh, Mossab. | |
| Mossab told me, he goes, it's financial jihad. | |
| Yep. | |
| It is financial. | |
| They figured it out. | |
| And, you know, Charlie Kirk, one of the last things he said, and I want to say this, is he said, Islam is using the left to slit the West's throat. | |
| And they shot him in the throat. | |
| Okay, put those two things together. | |
| I did think that that was so, that was, you know, you would expect a shooter to go for the chest. | |
| It's so symbolic that they went for the throat. | |
| And I mean, I can't say, I mean, probably none of us is really over it even now. | |
| I still wake up, first thing I think. | |
| I don't think I think there's a lot more lessons coming, and we're going to find out a lot more. | |
| And, you know, I hope that we are still mentally alive enough to be able to accept the truth. | |
| And we don't rationalize it away going, oh, no, it was Bibi came in there. | |
| He flew in on a private plane there and just Oram, Utah. | |
| I hope we don't do that. | |
| I hope we're strong enough and mentally capable enough to be able to witness the truth and not try to rationalize it away for our superstitions and our hatreds. | |
| You know, I don't even really blame the young people so much. | |
| I think the phrase that was used at Charlie's memorial was the lost generation. | |
| And it is true that there is a generation of young people. | |
| They are the product of the most broken of broken families. | |
| They don't have the opportunities that their parents did. | |
| That I think, you know, Debbie and I struggled when we're both from other countries. | |
| But we could buy a house and we could see the American dream. | |
| And I can understand a certain sense of just despondency and even enumy that comes out of like, I don't see a future. | |
| I get all that. | |
| And that's why I blame the professors and I blame the people in authority. | |
| And so, you know, if we seem to be like focused on even the right-wing pundits, it's because when you're leading a lost generation, you have a lot of responsibility not to be the Pied Piper that takes them off the cliff. | |
| And if you are, and you do it knowingly, you're the apostle of Satan. | |
| That's right. | |
| I say that. | |
| And you're doing the very people that you claim to be helping. | |
| You're misleading them. | |
| You're relying. | |
| You're using what in rhetoric is called the argumentum ad ignorantium. | |
| You're the argument that appeals to the ignorance of the audience. | |
| You presume your audience is really stupid. | |
| They don't know how stupid they are. | |
| So you can tell them things and they go, wow. | |
| That was when I came to television what their attitude there was about working class people and why they hated me so bad because I said, no, these people are smarter than you. | |
| I'm not going to play down to them because they're not ignorant. | |
| You are. | |
| And that's why they hated me because, you know, I knew that I was there to uplift, not degrade. | |
| And they're the same people in all those positions of that tastemaker position. | |
| They have that same attitude of just despising their own audience. | |
| It's horrible. | |
| The other thing they're playing on, and this is the other feature of anti-Semitism that we haven't mentioned, it's raised briefly in the film that racism is different than anti-Semitism. | |
| People think of the two as the same. | |
| But racism is essentially, I'm up here, I'm looking down at you, and I'm like, you're inferior. | |
| And so racism in that sense always has this downward trajectory. | |
| Anti-Semitism is not like that because Jews are one of the most successful tribes in world history. | |
| So, you know, as Netanyahu says to me in the film, he goes, we found this land. | |
| It was mostly barren. | |
| And he goes, and look what we did with it. | |
| And he goes, and so we're going to keep it because we essentially built it. | |
| It's kind of like saying we bought Manhattan from the Indians for 50 cents, but it was worth 50 cents. | |
| There was nothing there. | |
| We built it. | |
| We created Manhattan. | |
| And so the value is not in the original. | |
| But the Pilgrims built America. | |
| The Pilgrims built America. | |
| And I even have gotten into fights about this. | |
| People, Dennis, you're an immigrant. | |
| And I go, yeah, but immigrants didn't build America. | |
| The settlers built America. | |
| Immigrants immigrated to a good society that was better than their own, but that society already existed. | |
| So we've contributed as immigrants to this society, but we are not its original builders. | |
| The settlers built it. | |
| It is about building, isn't it? | |
| Rather than just destroying. | |
| It's about whether you're going to create or destroy. | |
| That's good and evil, too. | |
| It's the same thing, same root. | |
| It is. | |
| And I think also, and Khan talks about this, he goes, one of the signs of the last age is there will be not just an attack on God. | |
| That's sort of a little more to be expected. | |
| Not just an attack on the Jews and the Christians, but like an attack on productivity, on family, on community, on God's creation, on the distinction between men and women, all the fundamental human and rational and even natural categories and affections, all of it will come under attack. | |
| Yeah, like building community wealth is a bad thing now. | |
| Right. | |
| Every group, every tribe has built by helping its own. | |
| You know, the Mormons did it. | |
| The Hindus do it. | |
| The overseas Chinese did it in places like Malaysia. | |
| And so again, why are you singling out the Jews? | |
| The Jews do it, but I know 10 other people who do it. | |
| In fact, not only do I know 10 other people who do it, that is, in fact, the recipe for groups pulling themselves up out of discrimination and out of poverty. | |
| That is the formula. | |
| And not only that, but then when you have members of your group that do bad things, it's going to make your group look bad. | |
| So that's why, you know, people say, well, why are you doing this? | |
| Why are you making these racial judgments? | |
| Well, unfortunately, when a lot of bad people are coming from one group, people are going to cast aspersions on the group. | |
| Even the whole DEI phenomenon comes out of that, because you give preferences to a group and the achievements of everybody in that group, not just the people who got the preference, all of them fall under suspicion. | |
| Yep. | |
| Well said. | |
| Can I ask a quick question? | |
| Sorry, in the dragon's prophecy, because we had Jonathan Conan. | |
| Do you think we're at the end days? | |
| You specifically? | |
| Well, it all points to it. | |
| Well, let me put it this way. | |
| I approach this from a much more kind of sort of secular mindset, I would say, than Khan. | |
| And the way I look at it, there are people who are very ingenious in being able to read the fine print, so to speak, and even between the lines. | |
| They'll read the book of Revelation and they will give you a rather blow-by-blow chronology of the last days. | |
| My view is that the book of Revelation is deliberately more veiled. | |
| It's deliberately more obscure. | |
| There's a lot of imagery and metaphor in it. | |
| Now, Khan exploits this beautifully, right? | |
| He talks about the colors of the apocalypse. | |
| And I think in a beautiful transition, he goes, you know, he goes, the green for the green horse, the red for the red horse, the black for the black horse. | |
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| And now let's take a look at the colors, not just with a Palestinian flag, but a lot of the other flags of the nearby Muslim countries. | |
| They've got the colors of the apocalypse. | |
| And that's striking and interesting, right? | |
| But my view is that when it comes to biblical prophecy, let's just focus on the really big stuff. | |
| So the return of the Jews to their ancestral homeland. | |
| That's enough. | |
| That's a big one. | |
| And the reason it's a big one is because prophecy is impressive in direct proportion to its improbability, right? | |
| If I toss a coin and I say, I'm going to call three heads in a row, and I get three heads, unlikely, but it could happen. | |
| On the other hand, if I spin a roulette wheel that has 800 numbers on it and I tell you, I'm going to call the number in advance and then I do it, that's pretty impressive because the chances I could do that. | |
| So what are the chances? | |
| If you lived, let's just say in, you know, 100 AD or 500 AD and someone told you, these Jews are all over the world, scattered, are going to return, not just going to return together, they're going to return to the place that they came from. | |
| They're going to revive the Hebrew language after 2,000 years. | |
| They're going to eat the same food and celebrate the same holidays and worship the same God. | |
| Most people would think you're nuts. | |
| In fact, when I came to America, the Shah was in charge in Iran. | |
| If you were to tell me that there's going to be a jihadi revolution and it's going to be led by the Muslims and the Bible points to Iran, I would say, well, that's not going to happen because look at the Shah. | |
| He's pro-Western. | |
| He's pro-Israel. | |
| So it took the Khomeini revolution to move us where that passage in the Bible becomes more plausible. | |
| So my view is just this, where we don't know anything about the date or time of these events, but we can see signs that some of the broad trends described in the Bible are eerily familiar to us. | |
| So we can't deny we are in that last age. | |
| How long it's going to last, I think, is an open question. | |
| Well, I would tell everybody, go ahead and search the star of Jacob, and you'll find a lot of stuff that'll blow your mind there. | |
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| Because it happened. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| And it had seven comments with it. | |
| And now there's this, the Atlas 3i breaking apart and stuff. | |
| I mean, I don't know. | |
| Have you been tracking the Atlas 3? | |
| I have not been tracking the Atlas. | |
| Yeah, I want people to search. | |
| Well, they don't have to search. | |
| The dragonsprophecyfilm.com. | |
| Oh, and that's right. | |
| That's where we're going. | |
| But it goes along. | |
| It goes along with all of it. | |
| It ties into all of this. | |
| Our conversation is funny because we don't actually have to do, quote, film talk because this is the material that this film deals with. | |
| And what I love about it is that it engages the political head-on. | |
| I mean, Tucker is in the film and the left is in the film. | |
| And we deal with everything we've talked about today is colonization. | |
| I mean, think of the strange phenomenon that the Jews alone are accused of colonizing their own land. | |
| Right. | |
| We talk about this like the Indians are colonizing India, really. | |
| And I made the point, I was on with Matt Gates and Matt Gates was. | |
| Another one. | |
| Yeah, he's well, he's like, Dinesh, he's like, Listen, so what if the Jews were there first? | |
| He goes, Listen, he goes, Uh, the Native Americans were first in America, so does that mean they get to keep the whole country? | |
| And I go, Well, I said, Look, there are only three ways to get a country: one original inhabitancy. | |
| That is one way to get a title. | |
| Two, negotiation. | |
| Somebody gave it to you in a treaty. | |
| Three, conquest. | |
| If you look at the whole world and the borders of the world, they were settled in one of these ways. | |
| I said, Now, when you look at America, I basically see that the American Indians get one check mark. | |
| They were there first, but they were also raiding and conquering each other. | |
| And then comes the white man that conquers them. | |
| So the conquest check goes to the white man. | |
| So it's a dispute. | |
| I said, But now let's apply it to Israel. | |
| The Jews were there first, check. | |
| They got the land assigned to them by the UN after World War II. | |
| Czech. | |
| They fought at least three wars, 48, 67, 73. | |
| They've held the land by conquest, check. | |
| No other country has as clear a title because it checks all three boxes. | |
| But here's the big one: the Bible is our deed. | |
| Well, I wasn't even me. | |
| I was giving a, you're right. | |
| I mean, I was giving a completely secular account. | |
| Let's add that one. | |
| Yeah, that's for my family. | |
| Let's call that the God checkbox. | |
| Here's mine. | |
| My family name is David. | |
| And I wanted to sue the whole damn international community. | |
| That's my city, Jerusalem. | |
| I own it. | |
| I own Jerusalem. | |
| My family name is David. | |
| Kiss my butt. | |
| Really? | |
| Love it. | |
| Really? | |
| When's this film release and where can people go to see it? | |
| Yeah, so it's in theaters just two days. | |
| So not October 7th, October 6th and October 8th. | |
| So the two days alongside October 7th. | |
| It'll be in about 400 theaters. | |
| And so if you go on the website, you just put in your zip code, boom, all the theaters around you will come up. | |
| So see it in the theater if you can. | |
| But the very next day, October 9th. | |
| I want to say it's beautifully shot and you should see it in the cinema because it is beautiful. | |
| It's very I make it for the theater. | |
| I mean, and we also have, we could tell you, and it'll bring us to tears about the guy who did our music for this film because we hired this guy, Richard Friedman. | |
| He's actually a very good friend of Dennis Prager. | |
| His wife works for Dennis Prager. | |
| He's a brilliant composer. | |
| We hire him and seven days later, he has a heart attack and he's in the hospital. | |
| So he, but he has a sound guy who's an Academy Award-winning guy. | |
| So the two of them are putting music into our film from the hospital right now. | |
| Right. | |
| And he completes the job. | |
| And then what is it? | |
| Three days after he finishes it, he dies. | |
| So, so talk about the fact that there's a kind of a spiritual element, even in the composition of it. | |
| But anyway, streaming on October 9th and DVDs. | |
| It's going to be on Salem now, which is the Salem platform. | |
| It'll be on Rumble. | |
| So on Rumble, you can just basically click and buy it. | |
| And we're exploring a bunch of other platforms as well. | |
| We're going to make it really easy for people to see it. | |
| See it in the theater if you can, but these days a lot of people like to watch at home and that's fine too. | |
| I'm going to say two things. | |
| One, I believe, and Debbie said it outside, but I just wanted to say this because I didn't get to say in the episode. | |
| This film really feels, and I believe in my heart of hearts, that it's God-led. | |
| It's not a typical film. | |
| There's an energy behind it, and you just have to see it to understand what I'm saying. | |
| Once you see it, you'll understand what I'm saying. | |
| This movie, and I don't. | |
| You agree, right, Debbie? | |
| I mean, this is my co-sign. | |
| Yeah, it's a film that God produced this film. | |
| I'm talking about it all the time, and I sometimes have like a little difficulty, which is true of, I think, really good films, right? | |
| If someone were to ask you, like, what's the Shawshank Redemption about, right? | |
| You're going to say, well, it's about friendship. | |
| Well, it's about prisons, but you're not even beginning to do justice to it because you're talking about the film. | |
| You're not actually talking about the experience of the film itself. | |
| And ultimately, you want in a film it to take on that life of its own where there's that added X factor. | |
| And I think this film does have it, and we feel it. | |
| I think it does too. | |
| And both movies are Shawshank is about hope. | |
| It's about hope, redemption. | |
| And, you know, when we made this film, a lot of my films, people jokingly say they're horror films because you leave the film and you're a little dazed. | |
| You're like, oh my God, the stolen election. | |
| Will we ever have like another election in this country? | |
| Are we like done for? | |
| So that you will have that feeling. | |
| This film has some of those low points, but it also has high points, which I think is very congruent with where our culture is now. | |
| People are looking for a way out and a way forward. | |
| I felt more hopeful after seeing it. | |
| And then the other thing, and then I'll stop talking. | |
| Are you concerned with the, because you know you're going to get backlash for this film because it's pro-Bible, pro-Israel. | |
| Are you prepared for that? | |
| Are you worried about it? | |
| I'm not worried about it. | |
| Good. | |
| I'm not worried about it. | |
| My philosophy is this, this is what in the Reagan years we call supply-side economics. | |
| And what I mean by that is for my books and my films, I come up with an idea. | |
| I test it to see if it is current with what's going on in the world. | |
| Because we, you know, frankly, if you, in today's culture, you have to surf on the wave, right? | |
| If someone were to make a great film right now and the film was, let's say, about, you know, Afghanistan or about China, it would sink like a stone. | |
| So I do subject my work to like, is this relevant to our moment today? | |
| And then I ask, is the central idea of it like interesting to me, not to anyone else, just to me. | |
| And then if I like that, I'm going to go for it. | |
| And I'm in complete indifference to anything else. | |
| When I made my first film on Obama, I would go literally to potential funders, investors, and I'd say, I'm going to make a film. | |
| What's the film about? | |
| I'm like, it's about how Obama is an anti-colonialist. | |
| They were like, seriously, you're going to put a film like this in the theater? | |
| Nobody even knows what anti-colonialism is. | |
| And to the degree that they even know, they think it's a good thing because America used to be a colony of the British. | |
| So how are you going to explain this rather arcane third world concept? | |
| And I'm like, I don't care. | |
| It's my job to do that. | |
| And if I do it well, I think the film will catch on. | |
| And it did catch on and launched my whole documentary film career because it was the second most successful documentary ever made after Fair Night 9-11. | |
| So I wouldn't be in the film business if I didn't hit a home run out the gate. | |
| But Debbie and I have talked about this, and we do think this is, in a sense, our most profound film. | |
| I think it is too. | |
| It's a very uplifting film for Americans to see, to remember who we are and why we are that. | |
| This is it. | |
| And in a way, it goes even beyond that because we're saying, look, in the big scheme of things, we don't know what's going to happen to America. | |
| But what we do know is we all have a soul. | |
| And the line between good and evil runs through every human heart. | |
| And it is this moral choice that we all have to make individually. | |
| And ultimately, our, you know, I think we all believe our spiritual judgment is based on that. | |
| It's not what did your country decide? | |
| It's what did you decide? | |
| Whose side were you on? | |
| And this film wants to put that question like front and center. | |
| So when people go, in fact, yesterday we talked to some guys like, well, Israel is like way over there. | |
| I'm over here. | |
| We're like, well, yes, geographically, you're right. | |
| But the issues and the moral choices that come out of Jerusalem are right in front of you every single day. | |
| Every day. | |
| And without that, by the way, we would, you know, our country is built on these two pillars. | |
| You remove one pillar, Jerusalem. | |
| There's no Western civilization left. | |
| No. | |
| They're getting everybody to remove their own source of life. | |
| But anyway, well, I think we're going to cap it. | |
| That was amazing. | |
| And I like that we cap it on that. | |
| Everybody's being trained to kill off their own source. | |
| And we have to fight that. | |
| We have to fight that because without our source, we won't stand. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And if you, you know, if you're interested in the stuff we've been talking about, you're going to find this film mesmerizing. | |
| It's going to hope. | |
| It's going to uplift you. | |
| And it is beautiful. | |
| It's just beautiful. | |
| Thank you. | |
| The dragon's prophecy. | |
| Great job. | |
| DragonsprophecyFilm.com. | |
| That's it. | |
| And by the way, movie tickets, buy them on the website. | |
| You can't go to the theater and buy it right there. | |
| You have to buy them off the website. | |
| We've done these theatrical buyouts, which means we buy every seat. | |
| I gotcha. | |
| And it's worked for us. | |
| We know how to do it. | |
| And it's in select theater. | |
| So if you can't find it near you, no problem. | |
| Just sign up for streaming and order your DVDs and you're going to be fine. | |
| I'm laughing a little to myself because I talk about this movie Gives Me Hope and Proof of God, but it's like the dragon's prophecy and Satan is real and all these really scary, terrifying things. | |
| Well, people want to forget that. | |
| But you can't. | |
| You can't forget it. | |
| You have to. | |
| You have to face it. | |
| We are. | |
| Oh, come on. | |
| We got to win. | |
| Wake up. | |
| We got to win. | |
| Which way, Western man? | |
| Huh? | |
| Which way, Western man? | |
| That's it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you see, my patience is running thin. | |
| That's our end song. | |
| In this synthetic world, we're living in... | |
| Dinesh, thank you very much. | |
| Love you all. | |
| Thank you, Dinesh. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |