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March 7, 2024 - The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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"Evil come through the woman" with Jesse Lee Peterson | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #38
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Hey, greetings humans and earthlings and any animals who might be tuning in to the sound of my melodious and fabulous voice.
Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast. We're so excited.
Me and Jake are so excited because we love this guy so much.
He is very much a provocateur.
He's an incredible provocateur.
He wakes a lot of people up.
He's unapologetic.
He is amazing.
And we just love him.
Jesse Lee Peterson, thanks for being here.
Thank you, Rosanna.
I appreciate you guys having me on.
I'm grateful.
Thank you.
We always watch you every day and we're excited to watch you and the way you work it and the way you really blaze a trail for trying to wake up these people that are under such heavy-duty mind control of the left.
They don't even have any thoughts, do they?
No, that's unfortunate.
And again, thank you for coming on The Fallen State, my show.
That was amazing, too.
But one of the primary problems is that people don't think for themselves anymore.
They're like group thinkers, and so there's no individuality.
When I was growing up, by example, and we were taught to be free thinkers, To think for ourselves and not be afraid to disagree, not to be afraid of not being a part of the club.
So it's just in me to be that way, and I have never been a group thinker.
You know, I go out, I enjoy people, but I don't take my identity from that.
I made my self-identity, and it's amazing to live that way.
Well, you've had an amazing life.
I read your book, you know, from when I came on your show.
I don't even know how long that was.
I'm bad on time.
Maybe it was a couple of years.
But anyway, huh?
Something like that.
Yes.
Yeah.
But but but your people gave me your book and I I read it.
I found it fascinating for the life you've lived.
It's like my story, kind of from rags to, you know, rising To your dream.
But yours is so American as far as like, you know, your particular story.
Because you started out on a sharecropping farm, yeah?
I did, down in Alabama.
I grew up on a plantation down there, and my parents and their parents and their parents and their parents worked in plantations, and I stayed there until I left in 1968, at which time I moved to Los Angeles.
And so I never Ever, not one iota of a time thought that my life would go the way that it has gone.
It seemed to happen on its own.
I didn't plan it.
I didn't hear something from God.
I didn't run from God and all that.
It just, it has a life of its own.
I'm just living it, to be honest.
That's exactly how I feel, too.
I'm just living it, and it shows up, but I feel like God's putting it there, or it wouldn't show up, you know?
Absolutely, 100%.
One story amongst several, when I was growing up, my great-grandfather was killed in his bed.
What happened was, another black guy was fired from another plantation, and my great-grandfather ran the plantation that we grew up on, and so did my grandfather, by the way.
And so he hired the black guy that was fired from another one, And the white people came over and said, no, you gotta fire him, don't hire him.
And my great-grandfather said, no, I am hiring him, because he was an individual thinker too.
And so one night they came for him, and when they came for him, he went for his gun under the bed, and he ran them off.
But then at some other point they came again, and when he went for his gun, his wife had taken the gun from underneath the bed, and they were able to kill him.
And so they asked me, why did you move the gun?
She was like, I thought he might get hurt.
I'm like, what now?
But my point is, in spite of all that, we were never, ever, ever taught to hate white people.
We were never taught to blame someone.
They told us there's good and evil, and it's in all people, either you're on the side of good or you're on the side of evil, and that we should treat all people the way that we would like to be treated.
And I didn't hear all this mess about racism and all that.
Until I moved to L.A.
and when the so-called Civil Rights Movement started, which was one of the worst things that's ever happened to the blacks, is when they fell for the lie, other than abortion, when they fell for the lie of the Civil Rights Movement, they became group thinkers, they put other human beings over them, Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, all those people, and the government became their daddy, and it's just been downhill ever since.
Yeah.
Well, it definitely was a mind-controlled program.
Don't you think it's just that Marxist crap?
They just keep on selling that Marxist crap.
If they can get their hooks into people and make them think that it's somebody else's fault or that there's no hope for them to rise or get better, of course, they're going to give up thinking anything but that when it's all around you.
Absolutely.
I never, in growing up, I never imagined for one minute that black people were in, not all, not all, not all, but most, would end up becoming Groupie, non-thinking victims.
Because growing up, I did not hear that at all.
I was taught, the moment I popped out of my mama's womb, I was taught to work.
You know, I helped around the house.
I worked the cotton fields.
I used to have to get up every morning and go bring the cows up from the pasture, milk the cows, Feed them, put them back out into pasture, and get ready to catch the school bus at seven.
And so, I've been taught to work all my life, and that's how they prepared us.
As long as you can take care of yourself, you can work with your hands, you're gonna always have food on your table.
And they don't even do that with the children anymore.
They're not teaching them responsibility in their homes.
So when they go out, they're being made into even more vicious because they don't believe they can take care of themselves.
Well, they don't know how to take care of themselves.
I mean, I think you're right about that.
They made everybody, you know, it seems like every, every passing 20 year generation thing, the kids are weaker and less educated, more dumbed down, more trusting of authority, which, you know, in my time and yours, that's the last thing we thought.
We thought authorities there to hold, you know, to To hold you down.
You have to abide by the laws, but you can't just obey authority for no reason.
Things they have done.
Yeah, absolutely.
You're absolutely right about that.
And it's unfortunate that that is so far gone, left now down the road.
It doesn't look like it's going to ever return.
It's only getting worse day by day.
And I just don't believe, you know, it is a possible, I guess, but I don't see where my country is coming back to.
At least somewhat of a normal state in which it was before all this started to happen.
Yeah, I don't see how it can either.
And the thing that I wonder about a lot lately is, are we going to be able to vote our way out of this tyranny we're living in?
Will a vote be able to change that?
No.
It won't.
It's just too far gone now.
Even if Donald Trump, the great white hope, should get in office this year, this time around, he may bring back jobs.
He'll start drilling again.
He may put a fence around the wall, stop all the overflowing of illegal aliens.
He may make us safe.
But he's not going to be able to stop what's really going on in the country.
It's going to always be a messy boat.
It's going to always be the government creating problems for the people.
It's going to always be the division between the races.
It's going to always be that.
I just don't see that coming back.
Now, individuals can change.
You know, you can work on yourself as an individual.
You overcome the anger, you wake up from this mental state of being that you're in, and you overcome fear and anger, you can have a good life still, no matter what's happening outside of you, inside of others.
God will take care of His own.
So you can be fine as an individual, but as far as an American as a whole, that's not going to happen anymore.
Well, you know, I suspect that myself, but of course I hope we're wrong because it seems like people are waking up so, you know, in such large numbers as far as, you know, like the left, they have their, their, their, I don't know what the word is, but people that just repeat the stuff they tell them to repeat.
But the right has it too.
Yes.
They got their own.
So, I mean, people who are thinkers are somewhere in the middle and accept a little bit of truth.
Well, we believe in truth wherever we find it, right?
That's right.
Absolutely.
And you're right.
I even say now that We only have one party system now.
At one time there was a Republican Party and a Democratic Party, but now it's a one-party system because many of the Republican representatives are about themselves.
They're about power, They don't care about we, the people.
They really are in it for themselves.
Look how they send money to Ukraine.
Look how they are not really closing down the borders.
They're not really doing anything.
They hold these little meetings going after Joe Biden.
But what good is that doing us, you know?
They're not stopping the money from Ukraine.
We should be putting that money closer to the borders to deport these people.
And I noticed, too, that the Republicans, they're catering to the blacks, too.
They're trying to get blacks to be in the party, not because they're the best, but because they're black or they're female, because they're just trying to get the votes so that they can stay in.
It's the same thing.
We have a one-party system now.
I think that I have to agree with you there.
It's just the money party, right?
Yes.
Anything for money, they don't care about our country.
They certainly don't care about any individual rights, which is like...
There's so many levels to it.
But I was happy to see that more black people were coming over to the Republican side and waking up as to they're just prisoners of the Democratic Party.
Democrat party.
But they're just social prisoners.
And I'm Jewish, you know that.
And I feel like the Jews are too.
They're all just owned by the Democrats, their body, mind and soul.
They cannot think.
They'll be out there marching against their own best interests, both these groups.
And I love how you confront on that.
I just think it's hilarious, but it's so brave.
And you do make it funny.
But the way these people look that come on your show, it just is like they hit you in the head with a big old hammer.
And it's like they're stunned.
Like we used to call in Utah when I grew up, we used to call it the stunned ox look.
Yeah.
It was meat packing houses where they hit the cow in the head and it just goes.
But that's how they look, because they're like, wait a minute, is anyone really thinking not like me?
They look shocked.
Yeah.
And I try, in my interviews and discussions with people, my whole point or desire is to try to get them to think about stuff, you know?
Don't just take anything because I said it, or some preacher said it, or some pope, or some president, or someone.
Always think for yourself to know, is this true what I think?
What does this really mean?
But I noticed that in the interview, most of them still won't get that.
They won't.
They won't.
They just don't get it.
I don't know.
It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
They feel terrorized at anybody whose opinion doesn't match theirs.
Word for word.
They could agree with you on eight of ten things, and they'll be real happy, but You get to one thing that there's not an ultimate agreement in, and they're just, I guess they're afraid or something, but they turn mean.
Yes, they do.
The nastiness come out.
I can ask them, Do you love white people?
They'll be like, what?
They're like, I love all people.
Do you love white people?
I love all people.
Do you love white people?
They can't even say yes or no to that.
And I've had guests tell me, well, I can't answer that question.
White guests.
I can't answer that.
I'll look like a racist.
How are you going to look like a racist to say you love white people?
If you don't love all people, you love none.
So why can't you just say yes or no?
But they're afraid that they're going to look like a racist or something.
Well, don't you feel like they're afraid they're going to be exposed for what really is underneath all that?
Underneath all that self-righteous talk about how they're the saviors of humanity, they are a racist.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be afraid to say it, right?
They are protecting something.
They're hiding something.
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Absolutely, they're hiding something.
And I want them to encourage them to get over that.
You got to overcome fear.
You're never going to have an amazing life as long as you have fear, because fear is not of God.
Fear comes from anger.
Anyone that has anger has fear.
And anyone that has fear has anger.
So when you let anger go by forgiving your parents, when you forgive them, God will forgive you.
He will take away the spirit of anger, and the spirit of fear will disappear as well.
And you will live a life of no fear.
It'll just be gone.
I agree with that.
And also when you feel gratitude for the things you should actually feel gratitude for, that helps you to reconfigure the way you live your life and the things that happen to you as a result too, right?
Absolutely, 100%.
Life becomes clear.
You have a clear mind.
You're not all confused and trying to figure things out.
It starts to happen naturally for you.
And so that's why I encourage people to overcome fear by overcoming anger.
You gotta do that.
And you're right about the Jews.
When I was growing up, Christians and Jews were one.
I know that's what I say, yep.
It won!
It was taught, it was known that if it wasn't for Judaism, there would be no Christianity.
And so I grew up with much respect for Christians, and I always wanted to go to Israel because my grandparents and everybody would talk about Israel, they would sing about it, they showed it to us in the Bible, and I had a chance to go to Israel, and it was amazing!
It was so nice that we sent a second trip over there as well.
It was really, really nice.
But I never knew that there was something called liberal Jews.
When I first saw it, During my radio and stuff like that, and I would hear about liberal Jews, I didn't understand what that meant.
I'm like, how could you be a liberal Jew after all what the Jews have gone through?
And they were like, well, I think the liberal Jews feel sorry for the blacks because they think the blacks have gone through what they went through with the Holocaust and all that.
But I'm like, it's just not the same.
I just, I couldn't go through hell like that and become a Jew, I mean, a liberal.
It just didn't make sense.
But now I've discovered there are more liberal Jews than what I even imagined.
Yeah, they don't, they're not even, I mean, don't get me started, but they don't, most of them don't even believe in God, so I don't know why they call themselves Jews.
They don't believe in God.
They don't believe, they don't keep, do anything you're supposed to do as a Jew.
They don't do none of that.
Instead they adopted, it's funny, they adopted a social A social justice policy, you know, like all the liberals have.
That's what replaced their religion and their God was the state.
And they never want to admit that, but they believe that they are going to make the better state than the one they've lived in.
But they still want the state to have all the power and everybody to bow down to it.
That's amazing.
I understand now how the mind works, but it just doesn't make sense that you could be a Jewish person and separate from God.
It's not like Jew and God go together, you know?
It's like hand and glove, you know?
How do you separate from that?
It just seems to be part of your identity because, like I said, if it wasn't for Judaism, there would be no Christianity.
The world would be totally messed up.
There wasn't any Islam either.
Yeah, yeah.
But I guess the Jews just got bored.
I mean, they got bored with it, I guess.
They had to do something new, which is to go and pretend that the world is not the way it really is.
That's what's behind all that liberal thinking, don't you think?
They're living in a fantasy.
Yeah, no, it's absolutely a deception of the mind.
It's darkness of the mind, 100%.
Yeah, liberal.
It's a weird word that the meaning of it, I think, changed because originally it said that the word liberal came from a particular way of reading the Constitution, that there was a conservative way to interpret the laws and a liberal way to interpret the laws.
But, you know, it didn't have anything to do with social experimentations on groups of captive populations like we do.
You know, it was just an interpretation of the laws.
But you can see, I just think it's all, I think it's all just communism.
It just came and got a great big old toe in and it was a Trojan horse
and they rolled it over all of us.
Yeah, absolutely.
I've been told that it's kind of been in the making for a long time too,
but mostly we just didn't see it coming.
And when I was growing up, I did not know, until after the so-called Civil Rights Movement, I did not know any liberals growing up in Alabama, and I did not know any Democrats.
Everyone in my family, all of my friends and their family members were all Republicans.
And so they were conservative in their thinking.
They worked for themselves.
They bought land.
I did not know any liberals or I didn't know any Democrats, but that has all changed now.
And though there are some blacks that are becoming conservative now, Republican, but that wasn't before the civil rights movement.
They were conservative.
They were building and taking care of themselves.
They were independent thinkers.
And I believe... They were building wealth all over, in pockets all over the country.
And then those places like Rose, Rosa... Oh, I'm so bad on names.
I used to be able to go like, name them off.
But, you know, the places of black wealth were invaded by I mean, largely Democrats.
And they were run off, hung, lynched, and their land stolen.
Like Manhattan Beach, California, was a black city.
And you know, the developers or whoever, the oil company, I don't know, the big money came in and all of a sudden it was just rich, rich white people living there and all the black people were shoved out and their, their wealth stolen.
Like Juneteenth is about that too.
The black Wall Street, you know, just the, just the invasion of Democrats really.
Yeah.
To prevent anybody from rising on their own where they don't control it or get a little payoff.
Just like the mafia, you know?
They go, it'd be terrible if something happened to this little town, but we can protect it if you pay up.
Right?
It's all about the money.
and perceive power.
It's not about love.
It's not about the people.
It is about the money and so-called power.
That's all the so-called civil rights movement was about.
It was about money and power.
It was never about becoming one nation under God, being one, Bring the people together.
It was never about that.
It was always about money and power.
You can only do that when you divide the people.
Divide and conquer, and that's what they did.
And when the father messiah became the president, you know who the father messiah- You mean Obama?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The father messiah, Big Mama Michelle.
When he became president, it went downhill fast.
And I remember when the radical far-left Black Lives Matter were chanting, what do we want, dead cops?
When do we want them now?
Peas in the blanket, fry them like bacon.
Instead of Obama rebuking those people or locking them up, he invited some of the leaders to the White House.
He sat with them and talked to them.
But if any white group had done that about blacks or black officers, it would have been a different story.
And it's just Obama pushed that race idea more than any other president I ever heard of.
And I don't think that's why they put him in there.
I mean, it's a perfect evil devil thing.
think about and I really made me so mad at the time, you know, I ran against him in 2012, just because I knew what
was happening. And I knew since he signed away all our money in
2008, he ran back to Washington DC to sign all that.
you know, giveaways to the banks and you know, all that he ran
Yeah.
right after he was sworn in. But I was like, man, they got a guy
that they can totally control. And they're going to use him because his skin is dark. Yeah, they're going to use him to
destroy the black middle class and it's well, and the and the
and the black wealth of every black community.
And that is what he did.
And he's continuing to do it because this is third term.
And then all they show on TV, they never show a dissenting black person saying, oh, he's, you know, he did this to us.
He went down there to wherever it was where they were drinking poison water and pretend he was drinking some of it.
Yeah.
Flint, Flint, Michigan.
Yeah.
Flint, Michigan.
He, he's just an actor.
He, he, I think I always say, Oh, the guy wants to be a standup comic.
He really likes to do comedy, but I, you know, all the comics were talking about him saying, Oh, you know, they have to worship him, you know, so that, Oh, he was just so great.
So funny.
Well, Trump's funny.
Just off the top of his head, but Obama was a practice, like he would Practice comic like they got on the Colbert show, you know?
My script can never ad-lib, you know, as they say, can't ad-lib a fart at a bean-eating contest.
They said that in Utah.
But, you know, he can't, but Look what he got away with, and then the people who look like him are supposed to cheer him on, which is the same thing it is for my community, because I'm like, the only people that the Anti-Defamation League comes out to support, not me, certainly not me, but George Soros, are you kidding me?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
They care for the death of their own communities, and that's how they make their money.
Absolutely.
And you're right, there are so many Blacks who are disappointed in Barack Obama, even to this day.
And they will tell you, but they do not show those Blacks on the media.
They do not hear from those Blacks.
They were disappointed.
And most of those Blacks, the Blacks voted for Obama because they thought That he was going to make their lives, somehow or another, even better.
But instead, it got worse for them.
And they could not believe it.
They could not believe it.
They were disappointed.
And to this day, they don't like Obama.
They're disappointed that they voted for him.
But rarely do the media ever put any black face in front to say, I'm sorry I voted for him.
I'm disappointed.
But I hear it all the time when I'm out and about, even some members of my family.
Yeah, me too.
Even from some of the most liberal in my family, they're saying it now too.
It's funny because at first they were calling me all crazy and whatever they were saying, but now it's like, hey, more and more people sound just like me.
Yeah.
Every day.
And you, from Common Sense is breaking through it.
A lot of people, because of the economy and how bad things are right now, they see that the Democratic Party has done nothing but hurt them, made their lives difficult.
A lot of people are waking up, and I'm just hoping that they react in the right way, because I'm hearing it from Blacks and Whites and all kinds of Mexicans, You know, Mexicans who are members of this country, citizens of this country, they are totally waking up as to what is happening right now, and they don't like it.
And a lot of them say that they're voting for the Great White Hope this time because of that.
So I'm hoping that that brings on somewhat of a relief, somewhat of a change, and maybe then we can start building on that.
I hope so.
I don't know, but I hope so.
Well, you're a big part of it.
I remember you going and talking to people, and you were just going down to where people were on the streets.
I think you were in San Francisco.
I know you did a lot in Los Angeles, too.
But you were just saying, don't you understand that the Black communities, Black neighborhoods are gonna be...
Yeah.
the ones that are going to have to bear the cost for these people you're voting to let
Yeah.
invade our country.
They're going to come to where you are and take your stuff.
Yeah.
You know, and there are a lot of them are criminals and rapists.
I think they did it on purpose.
Don't you?
They don't like black people.
Come on.
It's without a doubt.
It was done intentionally.
It was done on purpose.
It was done on purpose.
It was on purpose.
And another thing, Roseanne, that they're not talking about, that if it's not dealt with, it's going to get worse.
It's going to be bad.
They have all these illegal aliens coming in now, and they are ending up in the black communities and places like that.
And they're bringing their gang members from different countries.
And now the black gangs and the other gangs are at war with each other.
And you don't hear a lot about that, but that's going to get worse and other people's lives will be at risk.
Yeah, I think so too.
Well, I think that that's what they did it for.
They do want to replace, you know, they want to replace the entire American working class, which of course has huge people of color percentage numbers to it.
But they do, they just want docile workers that will, you know, work for 10 cents an hour and not complain.
That'll hide from immigration.
And not complain, docile workers, you know, to replace the workers who might say, hey, 50 hours a week is enough.
Hey, Ma, do you trust your doctor right now or anyone in the medical community?
I don't even have a doctor.
That's how much I trust them.
I go to a voodoo practitioner, which I find Far more healthy and trustworthy.
I feel so good, I decide to go back to my natural hair color.
And I just feel so youthful.
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I noticed that in Chicago, a lot of the blacks are speaking out.
They are against that mayor.
They're bringing in all these illegals and put them up in hotels and things like that.
Give me some water.
Yeah, Donald, look what it's been covering here.
Huh?
I've been talking all day doing my show and stuff like that.
But they are against the Black mayor there because he's bringing in these illegals.
They're giving them free stuff.
They're housing them.
And the Blacks are starting to feel the pain of that.
And for the first time in a long time that I've seen the Blacks stand up for themselves, as I see happening right now.
So that's something new in the recent years.
So we'll see what happens with that.
Yeah, I think that's heartening.
Well, any free thought and breaking away from the control of a very few people over a large amount of people is a good thing, especially in America.
But I guess some of us, you, because I watched you talking about it, and a few others of us, we knew We knew, you know, they don't like any countries.
They just want one big glob of stuff that a few at the top rule over everybody.
They got docile slaves and servants, you know, like royalty used to.
They're feudalists.
Yeah, it's a waste.
Another thing that I want to mention that has happened, and I never imagined that one day I would see happening, is that they have destroyed the family.
I remember when I was growing up, The father was the head of the family.
The grandparents were there.
You know, we had the family union with that order of God and Christ, Christ as man, man over woman, woman over children.
That's gone now.
And you can hardly find, especially in the black community, but not only now, you can hardly find a family where the father's there.
Yeah.
And if he's there, He doesn't have an authority, you know, his wife running the family, running him.
And so he still don't have that strength there that we had when I was growing up.
The family has been destroyed.
And when you destroy the family like that, the kids don't have a chance.
They just, they don't have a chance.
So we got to restore the family that was created by God.
I mean, you say it all the time.
The man, the male, the male has been destroyed.
Yes.
You know, they used to, when I first started my show, they was always all the time calling me a man hater and this and that.
But I was just talking what I was trying not to be a man hater, because they were all having a family with no, no man in it at all.
But I wanted to show a family with a mother and father who, you know, both work together for the You know, with love for the benefit of their family, and the way I thought at the time.
Yes.
Different than now, but I think we got to do something with the men.
And I'm so mad at the men, because I don't know why they gave up so easy.
I mean, maybe they're afraid.
Maybe it's because women are increasingly more violent to them.
I've always seen women beating men's butt.
When I would go on stage in Austin, I'm telling you, I would say, I mean, I had a couple of drinks and I was loose, you know, but I said, uh, how many men here are getting their butts beat by their wives or girlfriends?
Because I just know it's huge numbers because the women are used for their violence every minute, every day.
I can't stand it.
You wouldn't believe how many men started applauding.
It was shocking and sad.
This was in Austin, too.
And I go, what?
Why are you putting up with these women doing like this?
Why are you doing that?
Why are you letting them do that to you?
Why are they letting them do it?
Yeah.
You know, I totally agree with you.
When I first started asking that question, how many of you guys allow women to beat up on you?
Why?
I was stunned at the number of men who were getting beat up by their girlfriends or wives or live-in.
And the men won't do anything.
They're afraid to.
And now they're telling me that they're afraid to react because they might go to jail.
They will.
Because all the woman has to say is, oh, he hit me.
Yeah.
Oh, he was very, very abusive.
And the man is not even given a chance because the court is not for the man.
They're only on the side of the woman.
And so a lot of men are afraid.
But what's wrong?
They're not just on the side of the women.
I think they're on the side of whoever is wrong.
They're just on the side of the wrong.
Yeah, but and then again, but the real deal is they're afraid of their mothers.
I think so.
When they were growing up, their mother was angry, and she would impose a wheel on the kids.
I'm just kidding.
I can speak on this, Jesse.
No, I will say it is a lot of the feminists because I grew up I was born in 78.
So I grew up in the 80s and 90s.
And I can answer this question why guys put up with the shit is we basically were told In first grade, second grade, third grade, and so on, from every angle, from television, from teachers, basically that if you're a man, your job is to keep quiet, don't push, don't fight back, you're a toxic male, and it got worse.
I used to talk about this all the time.
And it's men now, they're pussies, but I think they're doing it also because they have to.
If they stand up, they're done.
It's just the state.
It's just the way it is.
What it is, they're afraid of the spirit of their mothers.
If they were to face their mothers and forgive them for imposing the will on them, and turning them away from their fathers, I promise you, if they would face their mother, the hardest thing in the world for the average man to do, It's to go to his mother and say, Mother, I have been resenting you, angry at you all of my life because you imposed your will on me.
You turned me away from my father.
And now I feel like something is missing.
The love of a father is missing.
I can't find my identity.
If they face their mother and forgive them and forgive the father for not protecting them from the mother, The fear would be gone and they would be able to deal with every human being in the same way, with no fear and with perfect love.
And love is not a feeling, but we'll get into that later, but with perfect love.
But if they don't overcome the spirit of the mother, they're never going to be able to deal with those spirits in other women, because every woman they get involved with, you become attracted to what you hate.
So every woman they get involved with is mama.
And so the guy end up becoming the boy, and the wife end up becoming the mama, and the cycle repeats itself.
But they gotta face mama and let the anger go so they can be free of that spirit of the mother.
That's what the problem is.
Well, didn't you have to heal, Jesse, from your relationship with your mother?
It's very toxic in your early days, right?
100%.
And I didn't know it until I finally asked God to let me see and understand.
My mother, my father was dating when he was like 18, 19.
And my mother got pregnant.
And she went and she told my father, Hey, I'm pregnant.
And he's like, No, you can't be pregnant.
And he thought that they could she couldn't get because they had sex standing up.
And so he thought that you could get pregnant if you had sex standing up.
Isn't that amazing?
That's amazing.
And I used to think the same thing growing up, because they would tell her that you cannot make a baby standing up.
So I dated, whenever I would have sex with my girlfriend, I would have her stand up if I could.
Sorry, I've never heard this.
Yeah, don't be sorry.
It is funny, man.
But that was the thinking at the time.
And my mother's like, what are you talking about?
I'm pregnant.
But my father totally denied it.
And from that point forward, she became angry at him and didn't want anything to do with him.
And so what happened was she got married before I was born to another guy, my stepfather, who was an amazing father.
You know, he was really nice to me.
But I didn't accept him, though, because I had a yearning for my natural father.
And so she tried to keep me away from him.
And I resented her for that, but I didn't know it as a kid that I resented her for that.
Because I would ask her, where's my dad?
And my grandmother would sneak around and let my father come to see me.
My real father, right?
But she got mad at him, and as a result, I was mad at her, and I became just like her.
I lived in my imagination.
I was very emotional.
I couldn't deal with women in the right way.
I was afraid to stand up to them.
But when I moved to L.A.
at about the age of 38, I was going to different churches.
I was reading the Bible.
I was giving tithes and offering and doing everything, volunteering, but nothing was helping me.
I still have fear.
I still have the anger.
So I finally asked God to let me see myself.
I'm like, what's wrong with me?
I still have this fear, very emotional.
I can't deal with women in the right way.
And God allowed me to see that I resented my mother.
He just allowed me to see it.
And it was holding me back in life.
He allowed me to see that.
And I'm like, wow.
How did that work?
Was it just in an instant or did it take a time?
It was in an instant.
And it didn't happen the moment I asked God to let me see myself, but what happened was, one day I was getting up, getting dressed, and I'm in the mirror, and I saw inside of me, a quick glance, and inside of me was a dark spirit.
And it was not like the night spirit.
It was like a wicked spirit.
Those kind of spirits that come through your door.
Were you sleeping in the bedroom?
Yeah.
And the spirits are kind of flying around in whatever, dark clothes.
It was like that.
And I saw that in me, and I didn't know I had that in me.
And I'm like, what the?
That's scary.
What did you do?
And so, it just happened at a glance, and I knew I had to go and forgive my mother.
And so she came to LA to visit her sister, and I'm driving over there, 38 years old now.
I'm driving over there, and fear just overtook me.
I could barely breathe.
And I'm like, why am I so afraid to go and tell my mother I'm sorry for resenting her?
And I realized that because I resented her, I had fear of her.
I couldn't be honest with her.
I couldn't correct her.
I couldn't disagree because of the fear.
And so I get there and I had to walk up three little steps, two or three little steps at the house.
I went in.
She's sitting there having fun with her sister.
They're laughing.
You know how black women laugh real loud.
Jewish women.
Yeah, you're right.
And so, the devil telling me, oh, you can't talk to her now, you're going to mess up her vacation.
But I knew I had to forgive her so I could be free.
And I called into the room, away from the family, and I told her, all of my life, I have been resenting you because you tried to turn me away from my father.
And I resented you for that, and I realize now you cannot help yourself, so I'm sorry for resenting you.
And my life's changed, and it has never been the same since.
Wait, I gotta hear what she, what did she say when you said that?
She started crying.
And she apologized.
And she said to me, I'm really sorry.
I didn't know I had done that to you.
And then the first time in my life, she told me about her life.
And exactly what she had done to me, my grandmother, her mother had done that to her.
And she resented her mother.
And I never knew that.
I thought my grandmother was an angel sent by God.
But my mother resented her mother because her mother did the same thing to her in post-honor.
Try to keep away from her father and all that.
And she told me about her life and exactly what she did to me was done to her.
And it just goes on from generation to generation.
Because it's unexamined.
When it's unexamined, of course, you're going to keep living it because you're not really fully conscious, right?
Absolutely.
All angry people are unconscious.
Their eyes are open, but they're dead.
They're not alive.
I agree with you.
And my mother and I, we became close after that.
I didn't know that I resented her because I felt what I thought was love for her.
You know, I thought I loved my mother, right?
But that was emotional love, and emotional love is not real love.
God's love is a dispassionate love.
Satan's love is an emotional love.
Oh, I love that.
I have not heard that.
I love it.
Yeah, that's why it doesn't last.
It builds you up.
To let you down.
It lets you down to build you up, and build you up to let you down.
It's always based on what you have or don't have, or somebody who's in your life or not in your life, because it's not real love.
And so, it builds you up and down, and after a while, you want to jump off a bridge somewhere, you know?
But God's love is a light unto your feet.
And you don't have any anger.
You don't judge people.
You don't judge situations, but you overcome them.
You no longer identify with the situation because you realize you are not the situation.
You're just dealing with the issue.
It's not personal.
And if somebody curse you out and yell at you or call your name, it has nothing to do with you.
You know that they cannot see.
And that is in them.
It's not in you.
And you're able to live Heaven on earth.
Paradise right here on earth.
But you gotta forgive and walk in the light of God.
And the light is inside of us.
And that light is not gonna shine until you forgive.
You gotta forgive your mothers.
You gotta forgive your fathers.
And God will forgive you.
Don't ask for forgiveness.
You apologize for resenting them.
I'm sorry for being angry.
I love that.
That's a whole different context that moves all that crazy blame and all that social engineering they've tried to get us on.
It's taking responsibility.
And then you don't give that other person the right to define you.
That's right.
They can't do it, even if they try, they cannot do it.
Because now you can see for yourself from within, and then you stop identifying.
When we're angry, we have layers and layers of false identities.
There are evil spirits in our mind and emotions, right?
But they're all false identities.
They're wicked spirits.
And that's why I tell people, never call yourself a drug addict.
Never call yourself an alcoholic, never call yourself a murderer or a thief, never call yourself this or that, because when you call yourself that, you're giving these false spirits, you're taking on the identities that you identify with it.
It's enough to see that you drink a lot or whatever, but don't identify with it, so you can overcome the spirit of it.
Because the drug is not the problem, it's the false identity, the spirits that made a home in our mind and emotion.
And believe me, we have layers and layers and layers of false identities, false spirits in our mind and body, but they're not in us.
Yeah, they're imposed.
Yes.
24-7, every single day, through the media, through the airwaves, through other people, you know, it's just imposed on us.
These thoughts that we think, they're not even our thoughts.
They're not our thoughts at all.
They're not from God, and they're not from us.
That's why I tell people all the time, all thoughts are all lies, all the time, about anything.
You're not your thoughts, you're not your emotions, and you're not your body.
We are up here.
The real us, the real person, has the mindset of God.
We're a conscious being, but because we haven't let the anger go, we're living below consciousness.
But when you let the anger go, all those identities will disappear.
It's called ego, right?
Vanity, proudness, and proud, and all that.
It will disappear, and when that disappears, the real you will appear, and you are a son or daughter of God, and you're already free.
You just didn't know it because you live in a false illusion of the imagination.
Wow.
I so agree with you, and all that is biblical, too, because, you know, I read and study the Bible, and all that is very much detailed in In the Bible too, it says entities and each person is made up of many entities.
Absolutely.
Very false, like a screen door floats, you know, like air just floats in and out, but you know, don't trap it and keep it with you.
Let it go.
Yes.
See your thoughts.
Don't be your thoughts, right?
That's deep. 100%.
It is!
It's in the Word!
That's what Christians would say.
In the beginning, it's in the Word, right?
But the Christians don't understand it because the preachers don't understand it.
They don't even teach the flock that at all.
And I tell them, these are your thoughts.
This is you.
And when you became angry at your mother, You escaped your innocence and went into your imagination.
And you grew up in your thought, thinking that it was you.
Identify with it.
But when you're tired of the hell that you're living inside of you, because the hell is in you, right?
It's in other people too, but it's in you.
And as long as you're in your thoughts, you're living in hell.
But if you want to overcome it, you got to start questioning, what's wrong with me?
Why am I so angry?
Look within, and God will show you that you're angry, and that anger is separating you from Him, from God, from love.
And He will bring you out of those thoughts, And you will start seeing them as they're going, coming and going, right?
And if you don't identify with them because they're spirits, they're false identities, they will be taken away from you.
Because Satan lives in human bodies.
That's why the human heart is so wicked.
That's right.
All wars are in the human heart, in every person, too.
When they talk about, you know, the war of good versus evil, well, that's in you, that you choose to do right, despite if you don't get paid.
Karma too.
That's where karma is.
Salvation is of the heart.
Your vices is not the problem.
You got those vices because your heart is wicked.
Your heart and anyone that has anger is wicked.
Why do you think he was being treated so badly?
I mean, we all came from God, but look how we treat each other when we're mad.
And because the heart needs to change, that's what salvation is.
And God will change the heart, and then the light of God will destroy the imagination, which is the ego, the nature of Satan.
You will destroy that, and Satan will have to go find a home in somewhere else, and you'll be free.
You will have a clear mind.
It's so amazing.
It's very deeply Jewish, and also it's very deeply Jesus, because that is what Jesus taught.
He taught that, you know, well, we could go into that for hours.
Let's do it, because it's Buddhism, too.
He taught the human heart and making Making the, uh, walking away from the world and walk into the world of, of spirit where that's, you know, like real, real deep Bible stuff says the real world is 99% spiritual and the physical world is only 1% of the reality.
But here we are on this planet believing that that 1% is the 99.
That's amazing.
I didn't know you knew all that!
That's neat!
A lot of people have hobbies, and since I was a little girl, my hobbies were reading the Bible and having conversations in my mind with God.
I don't know why I was born that way.
Well, I kind of do know why I was born that way, and family tragedy had a lot to do with it.
I'm so glad for it, because I always had my anchor.
I always had my anchor so strong in that, you know, so strong in knowing that I was connected and that that was everything that I say, going and plugging into this wall, like, you know, you plug in a lamp with power.
I always wanted and craved to be I was the same way as a kid, and I didn't even understand it at the time.
means. I was the same way as a kid and I didn't even understand it at the time. And I've noticed
that I do a lot of counseling around the world by phone, Skype, or walk-in.
And I've noticed that in nearly all of the families, there's one or two of the children who seem to be set apart from the family.
They're in the family, the beloved family, but they don't really feel like, you know, like they're a part of something else that's missing.
And it seems that God has set aside somebody in that family to use for His message.
to put the love out there, right?
And I don't have time to tell you the number of People I've counseled with that have gone through all kinds of evil spirit issues.
I mean, I didn't know them that bad.
I just had no idea what Satan has done and is doing through the human body, through their mind.
But once they go and forgive, everything starts to change.
Because you know why?
Because you secrete different chemicals.
Yes, everything changes.
And they actually, those chemicals, this is biblical too, but you know, the liver, the bile from the liver, when you live in anger, that creates heart disease.
That's why they call it bile.
Well, when you're living in forgiveness and gratitude, of course, you're going to secrete better chemicals that are more in tune with life.
Yeah.
So it is about you.
It isn't about nobody else.
About no one else.
As an adult, we are responsible for us.
We are our world.
We are responsible for what happens in this world.
So it's up to us to work on ourselves, to see the Kingdom of God in His right way, and all will be added.
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Yeah, we are in Hawaii and it's, it is a really, it is a, you have, you don't have to, but it's nice to drink in Hawaii because you've got a creek in the backyard and the birds.
And also there's no like- And I start early, let's be real.
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I don't know for sure that I have a fatty liver.
I kind of resent that people may be just looking at me and thinking, I bet she has a fatty liver.
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Like I say, it takes about 12 hours.
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The blood cell, the bone, anger, because it's evil.
Anger is pure evil.
And I hear people tell me all the time, we have Bible Thought for Thursday, right, on my show?
And people tell me all the time, when Jesus was angry, they always equate human anger to God's anger.
They think that they're the same, and they're not.
Oh, yes, you're right.
You're so right.
They think it's the same.
I'm like, dummy, it's not the same.
But they believe it is.
But it affects the whole body, and the people just don't understand it.
But those who are seeking, they're starting to understand it.
I want to tell you one thing that happened to me when I was a kid, because I totally understand how God was with you even when you were a kid.
I remember when I was a kid, I used to go to church and hear about God, they would sing about God, right?
And I remember walking down the road one day, bright sunshine today, down on that plantation in Alabama, and I said, alright, I said to God, okay God, if you're real, there is a God, if you're real, let it rain right now.
And it was a clear day, no clouds, no anything.
And lo and behold, it started raining.
Just like that, it started raining.
And it didn't rain on me, it rained down the road in front of me.
And I'm like, what the?
I couldn't believe it.
That never works when I do that, so that's cool.
Congrats.
But then I said, okay, I'm a kid, I'm about six or seven years old, something like that.
And then I said, okay, that's pretty cool.
I'm like, okay, guy, I want to do one more.
If you're a guy and there is a guy, let it thunder in the West.
And lo and behold, again, no cloud, no rain, no nothing.
It's thunder in the west, just like that.
And I'm like, what?
It was so amazing.
And so, and I realize now, and even before now, that God has always been with me.
I just didn't know it.
Yeah.
I did not know all that hell I went through when I first moved to California from a plantation at the age of 18.
On my own?
I went through hell!
What kind of hell did you go through?
There was a time when I lived in a motel, a roach motel.
It had so many roaches that I had roaches for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
But I couldn't afford to get an apartment.
I had a job, but I could only afford a cheap motel.
So I stayed there and I went through that.
I didn't complain about it.
I didn't say I gotta go back home to mama or move it back to my family.
I dealt with it, but I just dealt with it without complaining about it.
Complaining really breaks your bones down.
Yes.
It makes everything and everybody feel just dark and helpless.
To be around somebody who complains?
Yes.
Yeah, that's why you're not supposed to hang around complaining people all the time because it's evil and it will bring you down too.
If you hang around.
You're not supposed to hang around.
It's not good.
What a mess, huh?
Yeah, what a mess.
Hollywood's full of nothing but complainers.
I couldn't take it.
They're living large, too, in big old mansions.
But all they do is sit in them and complain.
Yeah.
Because they're miserable.
They have the money.
They have the house.
They have the fame.
They get the glory.
They go to their little wars and things like that.
But inwardly, Roseanne, they are miserable.
They have fear.
They have doubt.
They feel insecure.
They feel like something is missing.
And I know that for a fact, not only because I know how things work now, but I've counseled with them in private.
I would never mention, no matter what happened, I wouldn't mention who they are or their personal stuff, but they're miserable inwardly.
That's why a lot of them end up on drugs, because they're trying to find peace.
And when I tell them, you got to go and forgive, And before you enter into the kingdom of heaven, you must go and forgive.
And when they do it, they feel completed.
They really feel whole.
They are no longer divided, living in the past or the future, which does not exist.
They start to do my silent prayer.
They come out of those thoughts, and they realize they're not their thoughts, and they're finally having a life.
But they thought that money, glory, and fame would bring peace, and it just doesn't work.
No, not that he gets... Huh?
I haven't even come across politicians who have... Everybody has the same problem.
Everyone that has anger has the same problem.
And they have been turned away from their earthly father, and as a result, turned away from God.
And they thought if they got married, if they had this, if they had children, if they were going to feel better, nothing can fulfill you until you forgive and return to the Father.
That's got about 95 different levels to it that I love, and I've been thinking about it too.
There's a lot of levels to it.
I really love it.
Are you kind of saying that, in a way you're saying, I think, that women are angry, and so they bring that on to their kids, And then project the anger onto the man.
Is that what you're saying?
100%.
Women are angry.
All women.
Yeah.
Certainly the ones I've dated, I can tell you that.
Yeah.
Well, that's after they date you.
Yeah.
No, that's true.
Yeah, I agree that that's true.
Without a doubt, without a doubt, without one iota of a doubt, evil comes through the woman.
And it happens.
When you read the book of Genesis, you'll see it clearly.
Eve had a relationship with her husband, Adam.
Adam had a relationship with his father.
Adam and his father communicated without words.
Adam loved his father, and then the woman loved her husband.
And she would listen to her husband, and all was well in paradise.
And one day, Eve went shopping for some black-eyed peas, and cornbread, and candy yam, and macaroni and cheese.
And so she would let the store She was at the store, and Satan, she saw Satan at the store.
And Satan's like, hello, how are you?
She's like, I'm fine.
How's Adam?
Oh, he's fine.
He's at the house.
And he was like, you still listen to that woman?
I mean, that man?
He's like, yeah, that's my husband.
I love my husband.
Why you listen to him though?
You could be your own woman.
And Satan said, she told Satan, get out of here.
I don't want to hear it.
So she went home, and while she was making dinner, and Adam was cleaning up, you know, taking out the trash and stuff, and she said, oh, I saw Satan at the market today, and he was telling me, Adam, I shouldn't be listening to you.
He's like, stay away from that devil.
He's evil.
Stay away from him.
She's like, okay, okay.
And long story short and fast, she went back the other day to get something else for lunch, and this time they had a nice little salad, With some blue cheese dressing.
And she ran into Satan again, and Satan said, you still listen to that man?
You could be your own woman!
You could take your bra off.
You could have an abortion.
You could do whatever you want.
You could be equal to your husband.
Don't let Adam rule.
Look at Adam.
He's listening to his father.
He's not even his own man.
And Eve believed at that time.
She believed the lie.
And once she believed that lie, Satan became her god.
And Satan's evil, and he became her god.
And she went home and told Adam.
Adam was like, what have you done?
And she's like, don't tell me what to do.
I do whatever I want.
I'm my own woman.
I'm a sergeant, women's movement.
Well, what got him to eat the apple though, he took it too.
And so what happened was she told Adam, eventually she told Adam, why do you listen to your father?
You should be your own man.
Why are you being such a baiter by listening to your father?
Look at me.
I'm a free individual.
I'm a free woman.
And Adam eventually believed the woman and the woman became his God.
And so Adam could no longer listen to his father because he's now listening to the wife, the woman, right?
And God said, because you listen to that woman, you will suffer.
And every time the man listens to the woman today, he suffers because he's not... I believe it.
It seems that way.
I mean, I can't believe that I came around to that, but, you know, watching my two sons trying to get with a decent woman, I mean, finally, finally they have in their But the process of it was pretty eye-opening for me to see how these women, I'm like, you're not going to treat my son that way.
What are you doing?
You're not, he's not going to, I'm not going to put up with you.
And there I was like being against other women.
But then I was like, well, you've got to, because look how they do.
They're not right in the head.
They're not right spiritually at all.
When your sons were angry at you, they could not avoid meeting women that are just like you, because you become attracted to what you hate.
And so every woman that got involved would be you, and they would become the boy, and then the women would hate them for being weak, because women need men to guide them out of the hell that they're in, and they hate weak men.
They literally hate weak men.
But when they forgive you, they will no longer be attracted to that spirit.
They'll be attracted to a woman that will obey them and love them, right?
But they got to forgive the mother so they don't be attracted to that anymore.
God will put the right You're not supposed to try to make a relationship work.
They will have a marriage because this woman would love obeying her husband and won't be
like an ego trip and all that mess, they tell you, right?
She would love obeying her husband and her husband would love what's right.
They will have a marriage that would last until death do them part without even trying
to make it work because a marriage in life period is supposed to work on its own.
You're not supposed to try to make a relationship work.
I just work naturally.
You have to work so hard for every, you know, that's why I always hated to be in a relationship
because everybody at the time was like, oh, you got to work on it.
But then I was like, why?
Right.
Why keep working if it's not, you know, but I never had because of all my programming and brainwashing the time I grew up with and my mom's generation, too.
I never well, I never could find a man who Um, I guess they were all afraid of me.
I guess that's the kind of man that liked me is because I was loud and all that, but also do everything.
I do all the damn work all and come home and do all the work there too.
While they just, you know, they weren't, uh, I don't know what the word is.
They didn't lead me.
They didn't help me.
I had to be their mom.
Like you said, I ended up with Baby man that I had to be their mom.
Because every man you met, because your father didn't protect you from your mother, he was weak.
He didn't know how to deal with the hell in your mother.
Every man you met was just like your father, a weak man.
You only attracted to what you hate.
But if you have forgiven your father for not Yeah.
For protecting you, you would not have been attracted to weak men at all.
It would have never happened.
You would have been given a man, by God, that would have been there with you and led you all the way, and you would have loved it because you would not have had the hatred in your heart.
Yes, I can totally see that because my dad did not protect me from my mom.
No!
And I just, you know, always wondered why.
He was afraid of her.
Yeah, he was scared to death of her.
He was scared of his mom and her mom and her.
And his sister, too.
These are Jewish women, Jesse.
Oh my God!
We're very controlling, like a lot of ethnic women are.
You have to be.
All the women are like that, that has that anger.
But the beauty is, just so they'll be out there, when you forgive, when all human beings forgive their mothers, because all have to do it if they want to be free.
They got to go to mama and say, mama, I'm sorry for resenting you.
I become like you.
I have fear.
I'm I have doubt.
I'm angry.
I'm just like you.
I overreact to life.
I realize now you did the best you could.
You could not help yourself.
And I'm sorry for resenting you.
Don't ask for forgiveness because human beings don't forgive.
But when you apologize for being wrong, judging, having anger, God will forgive you and take that away.
And then the woman...
Excellent triangulation there.
I've got to interrupt for a second.
This message you're talking, this is probably what Christianity and Judaism and Islam, this is what they're really talking about that we never hear.
That message is never heard of.
Yeah, we never get to that because they're too busy making us hate each other.
Satan playing in like this.
I always heard this forgiveness thing.
I'm like, why would I forgive anybody that's done wrong to me?
That just sounds really fucking lame and beta.
Right?
But when I'm hearing you today, I'm like, oh, now all these messaging I heard, because I'm not religious, but I follow them, I understand them.
This is probably what they're talking about, what you're talking about.
But they don't even understand it, though.
They don't understand it.
They're just intellectual scripture reading, That's the problem.
They're not in touch with their own soul.
Bad messengers.
And that's what hurts religion.
Because a lot of people go, I'm spiritual, but I'm not religious.
Well, it's because you're hearing from bad teachers.
And I got to say one more thing.
I'll let you guys talk.
You guys talked earlier about this thing that is actually a Buddhist tenant.
called non-attachment when you were talking earlier about, you know, don't basically you were saying don't attach to emotions in that state.
And that's not just Judaism or Muslim or Islam or Christianity.
Buddhists talks about that a lot.
And it's basically you are not your thoughts.
That is another whole tenant that nobody's ever.
That's what I mean is wherever we find truth with our basic connection to our maker, well, we can find and perceive truth wherever it is, no matter No matter where it is.
We don't need to have labels.
We just know it is because God gave us the ability to decipher what's good and evil.
If we're in that good space where we're all connected.
I like that you said that because I was going to tell you, I like everything you say, of course, but I had a thing with my mom where me and my mom, we did have a forgiveness thing and our relationship did Did get a lot closer and better.
So I did confront her.
I kept confronting her for a long time, but I always would say, you, you, you.
And then later I was like, oh, it's me, me, me.
And it's like, so you say, you have to apologize for what you do.
You don't have to stand in your own soul and your own truth.
And be really real about it.
And when I was able to do that, and it was really hard.
It took years for me to do that because I didn't want to let go of it being somebody else's fault.
Right.
Amazing.
But when I did, it got better.
That's why I tell the people, you gotta get to know yourself.
God said, know thyself.
See what's going on inside of you.
When you see that anger, you're gonna see that this is wrong, having this anger.
This doesn't even make sense, right?
Because you're gonna see that it's holding you back, it's separating you from the Father, and it's not good.
When you see that you're evil, because the heart is evil with anger, You go and forgive everything.
You're going to enter into the kingdom of heaven within.
That's why God said, before you enter into the kingdom within, you must go and forgive, because the evil heart is the heart of wickedness, and evil cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
It's not going to happen.
That's why you must go and forgive.
And you're right.
This is real Christianity.
And when I started out, when I first started, I didn't know anything about other religions, right?
I just knew about Baptists.
And I have started to hear about Catholics and Buddhists and all that.
And I've learned over the years, I've learned much, much more about them from other different people.
And it seems to be the same thing.
You must forgive, stop identifying with the not you, you're not your thought, you're not your mind.
Even Paul talked about that in the Bible.
He said that, I've been trying to change myself.
I got all these issues going on, and I've been trying to do right.
I can't do right.
I want to do right, but I can't.
I only can do wrong, and I don't want to do wrong.
I had to realize it's not me, but something else made a home in me.
And that's exactly what he's talking about.
It's in the thought.
God said, bring every thought, every imagination to captivity.
Your thoughts are not my thoughts.
Your thoughts are not your thoughts.
They are evil.
Satan pretending to be God in the thoughts.
He is not God.
And we got to stop identifying with him.
Amen.
That's so true.
That's really real.
That's a great message for right now, because that's the last thing any of these people will hear or have heard.
But it's the number one thing that they need to hear is that You do have the ability to change yourself.
The Bible also says, if you have the capacity to change, that's how you know you have a soul.
People who have a damaged or dead soul, they cannot change.
That's why we have to... We shouldn't feel sorry for people who are living in hell.
Because there are people who love their hell.
They don't want you to tell them you can overcome your hell.
They love their misery.
They love their thrills.
They love hurting other people because it gives them a thrill and feel good.
They love being angry.
It's a thrill.
They love feeling good.
It's all ego.
It's a thrill.
And you tell them, you know what?
You can overcome that if you want to.
I don't want to hear that!
They'll kill you.
I love my hell.
So don't feel sorry for them.
I don't care if it's family member, husband, wife, children, friends.
God doesn't force you to come out of your hell.
He's made the way.
It's up to you to come out.
But if you want to stay in your hell, he and his son, they just hang out up there.
They look at you.
They have cafe and mocha and everybody.
Hey, can I say one more thing before we wrap up?
I feel like I've been in church for the first time in my life.
Does this mean we have to apologize to liberals for the resentment we feel for them in order to improve things?
Isn't that Satan?
No, we don't have to do that.
No, because what's going to happen?
I can't do that.
What's going to happen, and I promise you this, because I know now, this is not something I read or heard, once you forgive your parents, your mother, your father, all bitterness will disappear.
Okay.
You won't hate anybody, no matter what they say, what they do, how they act, because you're going to understand that it's not them, but it's that thing that made a home in them, and they can't help it.
What were you going to tell us about love?
I would like you to, because we were going to get to that.
What were you going to tell us about love?
That love is not a feeling.
A feeling of love is hate.
It just disguises itself as love.
Satan imitates God.
He plays God.
He makes you feel good, right?
Let's say you meet a guy and he treats you really well, and he buys you flowers or whatever you like, right?
And you're like, this man loves you.
He calls you every day, every night, and you feel really good about him.
But if he missed one phone call or one birthday, now you're angry at him.
That's true.
And that feeling of love now is feeling of hate, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so you start pouting, and you won't talk to him, and when you get around, you're acting all grumpy, and blah, blah, blah, and you're mad because he didn't cater to you.
And then he said, all right, I'll go buy you some ice cream.
You go buy your favorite ice cream and turn on the fireplace.
Now you feel love for him again.
But it's not love, it's hate.
That's why it's not stable.
God's love is just a light unto your feet.
It's a kingdom of heaven.
It's a state of being.
It's just perfect, and it's not based on anything that you have or don't have, anything that someone does for you or against you.
It's not based on anything.
It's the nature of God, and it's just perfect, and it's not based on where you live.
And so, if someone is nice to you, Okay, thank you.
And if they're mean to you, okay, thank you, because you, the real you, are not affected, because God love is a dispassionate love.
It's not based on anything out there.
It's based on inside of you, the kingdom of heaven.
It is the nature of God.
It's the light of God.
It is the nature of God.
It's the nature of the universe, too, because they say that the whole universe always goes to the positive, not the negative.
As a matter of fact, you're absolutely right, because as a matter of fact, when you let anger go, and you're now living from that new nature, not the old ego nature that's taken away from you, you're going to realize not only are you your own world, you are the universe.
Yes, you are.
Look, I'm black and slow, and nobody taught me this.
It's only because I asked God to let me see myself.
I was living in hell.
I was miserable, right?
Hell was in me and I thought it was out there, right?
And I asked him to help me to let me see and everything started to change.
And that's what we have to do if we want to be free.
What about all these people that you confront or, you know, you make them look like, well, you expose who they are.
It's so great that you just use words to do it.
And I just love watching your process of how you do it too, because it's very studied and definitive.
How you play it.
But have any of them come back to you and said, hey, thank you for waking me up or any of that?
They have.
Really.
Over the years, I had several men and women come back and say, you know what?
I got mad at you doing that.
I hated you.
But I thought about what you said, and I started paying attention, and you were right.
I'm sorry for being angry.
And that's what I want for them.
That's what I wish.
Now, the talent to interview in the style that I do, I can honestly tell you, both of you, that came from God.
I did not plan that.
I did not go to school for it.
I'm not, I don't, even when I do my interviews, I don't read out what I'm going to say.
I don't study.
I just want to, I read a little bit about the person, who they are, where they came from, because I want to know that I know the truth too.
And so when I'm up there talking to them, interviewing them, I'm being given the questions to ask, the response.
I can honestly tell you it's not from me at all.
And then the humor that comes to me and people laughing, the jokes that come, I don't know where that come from.
It just pops up.
It comes from truth.
Well, truth is the funniest thing of all.
I also love that because I say, I've been saying, you know, I do put a lot of blame on these lesbian publicists in Hollywood for how they do it, you know, and it cracked me up when you said that BLM was a bunch of fat They are the angriest.
lesbians or whatever you say.
Because it's true.
A bunch of radical, fat, black, lesbians.
They are the angriest. I mean, there's women being angry and then there's lesbians being angry.
Because they won't never let go like a dog doesn't let go of a bone.
Those lesbians, they just want you dead.
Oh yeah.
Don't they?
Absolutely.
They want you dead.
And I didn't know that they were lesbians until they said it.
Because, you know, I couldn't look at them and just tell, but they're the ones that... And they say they're lesbians, right?
And they hate the order of the family.
They hate that order.
They don't want men to be over their family.
They hate God, they are socialists, and so they are evil through and through, and I understand it.
So they said it, I didn't.
What a mess!
What a mess!
It sounds like Satan to visit Eve.
When you were telling that story about Satan visiting Eve in the grocery store, it's like, that sounds like a fat Well, I have another interpretation of how that Satan story goes.
Well, I think that it was that Satan says to her, you are going to be able to help your man to become very, very successful.
That's what I think he told her.
I love that.
Yeah, I think he told her that, you know, you are going to help him because he deserves better.
Therefore, he's going to give you more, but you're going to help him.
And and she's like, yeah, I can do that.
I can.
And and then she goes to him.
I'm going to help you.
And he's like, good.
I need some help.
So you can see how that worked.
And then they say, well, she took the apple and Adam bit it.
And one interpretation of that that I read that I liked was God said, It was Adam that caused the fall because he took the bite.
She was already hoodwinked by the serpent, but he should have said no.
If he had never believed the woman who believed the serpent, man would have been free.
We would not have to go through the hell, right?
But because he believed her, the woman became his God, we had to pay the price for it.
But thank God for Jesus, there's a way out.
Because once you forgive men and women, once they forgive their mothers, and I keep expressing mother because most people don't know they need to forgive their mothers.
No, it's never talked about.
Right!
And so, they try to forgive their father, but they're just stuck because they didn't forgive their mother.
God said for us to honor our parents that all he's saying is don't resent them.
He's not saying that they can come in and live with you and you have to call them every day.
He's just saying don't resent them.
They've done the best they could.
They couldn't help it.
They had no love.
And so, I want Everybody should know, and those who want it, if you want perfect peace, and you can have it right here on Earth, you gotta forgive.
Your heart—salvation—is about a change of heart from evil to good.
And once that happens, the light comes on inside, and it will destroy the darkness.
It will take the spirit of evil out of your body and mind, and you will have the nature of God, and you will have a clear mind, not living in the past or future, not wanting for anything.
And you're like, "'Cause God loves us!"
But we just don't know it because we didn't know about him.
We heard about him.
We intellectually thought we knew him, but that was just intellectual.
But you can know God.
He said, my children shall know me by my voice.
And his voice is a voiceless voice.
It's so amazing.
And I hope that somebody catch on and go forgive.
I can tell you that's true.
Thank you for that wonderful message.
You're welcome.
It is true.
It's very true.
I know I've done a lot of work.
I used to have rage attacks and go completely crazy.
Me too.
I make the craziest looks.
A lot of my walk is like your walk.
To leave my rage and my loss of control and Being locked into anger behind.
It's been for a few years now and my life is so much better.
And so is my happiness level because I don't have to feel so bad that I acted out.
As a matter of fact, you shouldn't feel bad at all because it was never you.
It was always that false thing working through you.
And He would call you to do the things you don't want to do.
And then once you do them, He would say, look what you have done, right?
And then He would make you feel guilty.
But it was never you.
So there was never a reason to feel guilty.
There was never a reason to feel bad because it was never you.
And God never judged you.
That spirit of spirits of evil was drawing that to you.
It was never you.
There was never a reason to feel bad about anything.
Because it was something that was in you.
You just didn't know it was something that would cause you to do the things you didn't want to do.
Well, I appreciate you being on so much.
We look forward to it for a long, long time.
We're so happy to have had you and be able to hear you and, you know, not have to fight with any idiots.
But anyways, I still am going to watch you and I'm always enjoying and overjoyed To see you be amazing.
Amazing!
Jesse, we're going to be in LA soon, I hope.
You know, we live there too.
We would love to have you over at the house or dinner or something.
I would love that.
Of course we would.
Yeah, let me know.
Let me know.
All right, thank you so much.
We are family.
Jay, real fast, did you forgive your mother?
I did.
I wanted to speak on this.
I told him he had to or he's out of the will.
I've done a lot of self-care.
I don't know if I've come to you, Mom, and actually said those words.
I feel like we've had those conversations.
You showed me, son.
Well, have that talk in private.
You know, Mother, I resented you and I'm so sorry for it.
I understand now that you did the best you could.
I'm telling you, Jay, things will change and you will never be attracted to an angry woman again.
Well, that's impossible because I'm not gay.
So you have to be with an angry woman.
I'll take the little bit of... You will never be attracted to an angry woman.
God will give you a woman that doesn't have the anger.
Yeah, I agree.
And I feel that's happened for me.
But I'll say it just to bring it home.
This blew my mind, this episode.
I knew it was going to be good.
I didn't know it was going to be this good.
I knew it, too.
I was looking forward to Roseanne.
This was way even greater than what I thought.
It was real talk.
It was grown-up talk.
It was real talk.
And that's what we needed out of society today.
We need this.
We need this type of conversation to be happening.
Not all that mess, but we need this.
We've got to step out into the 99%.
Yes, absolutely.
So thank you guys for having me on.
And when you're in LA, let me know.
We'll get together.
Yeah, we're going to have you over.
I'm cooking.
All right.
All right.
I can taste it.
Take care now.
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