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July 6, 2023 - The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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Roseanne Barr interviews dear friend Mo'Nique
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Hi everybody!
I'm so excited for my podcast today.
It's with a great woman, an icon, just an amazing comedian, a great soul, somebody I'm Pleased to share this planet with.
To me it's like a miracle that she's alive while I'm alive.
It's just great knowing that she is in this world when I'm in this world and that I can talk to her and she gets it and she can go.
I just love that she can go.
She's a deep thinker, great artist in so many respects.
So let me bring on a dear friend, a great comedian, a fantastic artist who lives her life as an artist.
Monique!
You look fantastic!
I love the hair!
Thank you.
And look, I love yours too.
Thank you so much.
I did it myself because it was just all wire and like, I looked like Einstein.
So I had to like spray it down, you know, but I love that.
I love that braid.
It's beautiful.
You always have the best hair and you always look gorgeous.
I love the way you looked on your Netflix special.
Are you kidding me?
That looked like, uh, the, What do you call it?
A bond girl.
That's what you look like.
One of the bond girls.
It was pure glamour from tip to toe.
Beautiful.
And I loved your special.
It was fantastic.
So raw.
So brave.
So funny.
Cutting edge.
Fantastic.
I was proud of you, you know.
So proud of you that you don't You're not going to let anybody stop you.
I respect you for that.
I love you for that.
Dang, you're so strong.
But you know, that goes both ways because I feel the same way about you.
You know, I think that, um, it's so funny because coming up watching your show, right?
And I watched this woman who was so bold, who was just like, I'm like, did she just say that?
Did she just, And you were so unapologetic about it.
So to watch you as this younger person and grow up and to develop this beautiful sisterhood with you, it's almost like I think we're kindred spirits because we both get it.
And when I watched you go through all of that, I got it.
And that's why I wasn't going to let you go.
I'm like, no, y'all, because y'all are missing it.
Y'all are missing one of the most caring hearts in the game.
Do we say it a little rough?
Yes, we do.
Do we say it where people can go, oh, yes, we do.
But that's what we do.
But I knew your heart, and I know your heart.
You know, just starting out with, uh, you, you reached out and picked me up out of, uh, you know, I was feel like I was drowning and I couldn't fight.
You know, I couldn't, I couldn't fight cause it's like being in a tsunami of it and it wouldn't stop.
And, uh, they wouldn't even allow me to, um, explain myself, nor apologize, nor, you know, anything.
They just cut it off.
It's like, okay, you're gone forever.
You're dead.
And, um, and, and they got it so, uh, you know, everybody was afraid to say anything, um, in defense of me.
But here you came cause you, you are you.
And I, And you showed up, you know, you showed up for me at a time when there were people that looked like me that didn't show up.
And that was the Monique show.
And when people were trying to say these things, I'm like, listen, y'all, I know that woman when nobody's watching.
I know it when ain't no cameras running.
I know when there's no audience.
And the thing she said to me, a racist woman would not say that because she wouldn't care.
That's why I was like, nah, baby, me and you in this one to the end.
That's my sister forever.
So when you said, Mo, come on and do my podcast.
I'm like, what time and where?
I'm there.
I just love you so much.
You are like, I do feel that you are, you know, my sister.
I really, really do.
even tighter than sister. I don't even know if there's a word for it. It's a it is a one kind
of like a being a soulmate kind of thing. Because first of all, we have, we both were born with
whatever it sometimes we have called it a gift, you know, in our private conversations, the gift
and the ability to, you know, want to make people laugh and saying can feel good and go, Oh,
You know, I never thought about it like that.
And we both were talking, I heard you on another interview a couple months back where you're saying, yeah, you always knew, and I hadn't heard you say that, but we had talked about the gift, which is also slash a curse, because you can't not do it.
You can't not do it, right?
You can, it's, it, you know, I've said that they're gifted people and they're talented people.
And those are two different things.
Talent can almost be nurtured and molded and formed.
We're going to make you this.
When you're gifted, it's unexplainable.
You can't explain it because it was something that was gifted to you.
And I remember I was afraid to say that.
Like I was afraid to say, it's a gift because I didn't, you know, I didn't want to sound arrogant or conceited, but I can't explain it.
Like, I can't explain it.
And you're right.
It's something we have to do.
Like, it's just, it's how we breathe.
It's how we live.
You know, it just is, uh, in there and it just comes out.
It's, I, I was saying, I asked this shrink one time, do I have Tourette's or something where I just, I can't control it.
You know, it's like a, like a reflex.
Sometimes when I see some kind of bullshit, I just go around.
That's bullshit.
You know what?
I can't keep my mouth.
I really want to talk about that too because boy that is what they tell women and particularly when you're being really bullied when you're being really bullied and you don't have any allies and you don't have Any power is one they really like to tell you to let it go and don't talk about it.
Isn't that right?
Yeah, you can almost feel like... I'll say this.
I feel bad for the sisters that came before us.
Me too.
That had no foundation of people saying, let it go.
You crazy.
Don't say nothing.
Don't worry about it.
And there was no one to hold onto them to say, you're not crazy, baby.
You know what you're seeing.
If it quacked like a duck and it walked like a duck, it's a duck.
But we had no one to validate it.
They had no one to say what you're seeing and what you're feeling is okay.
So when I've been told, Monique, just let it go.
I'm like, y'all, but that's why the bullying and the exploitation keeps happening.
If we keep letting it go, we then let them go on to the next one and do the same thing, if not worse.
So it's not aiming to let it go.
Absolutely.
And I think that's why they say it.
It's like all they tell you to be quiet and don't talk and that is all to protect The aggressor, the abuser, it's all to protect them.
Everything seems like it's set up to protect them.
But you know what I noticed too, Roseanne?
Just in the way that the universe works, you never get away with it.
Even when you think, you know what, no one caught it.
You know on Scooby-Doo, when they almost got away with it, if it wasn't for them mangly kids, You never leave untouched.
You don't leave here untouched.
If you've done malice, if you've done hurt, if you've done harm, you don't leave untouched.
And if you've done good, and if you've been kind, and if you've been loving, you don't leave untouched.
Either way it goes.
You don't leave untouched.
That's why I kept saying to you, Rosie, don't worry about it, baby.
Because your heart is pure.
I know what they saying.
I know what's happening.
We gotta block it out.
Because it always comes back around to the ones that's supposed to get it, and to the ones that's supposed to get it.
Well, you know, I've had my faith in that shaken a little bit because, you know, just looking at the world and how it works, it seems like a lot of people that are horrible, they die real comfortable in their big mansions, you know, and a lot of people who are good people die You know, dead poor and suffering.
So, I don't know, maybe not on this earth it doesn't all equal out, but somewhere I suppose it does in the great big, what do you call it, tabulation of things.
I think it does matter somewhere, but it doesn't seem to work here.
Well, you know what?
I think the perception oftentimes makes us believe they went out comfortable and they went out this way.
Because they may have went out in a mansion, but when you know you've done wrong, baby, you gotta take them last seconds of breath by yourself.
You know it when you know you've done right regardless as to how you go out.
If you land on a cot or if you land on a 20 million dollar bed, you know how you got to take them last seconds and what you gave is what you're going to get.
So I truly believe in this space right now.
If you've done good, it's going to come back to you as it's coming to you right now.
And sometimes, Rosie, we can't see it because we can only see the wrong.
You know what I'm saying?
I do.
I think you're right that when you know you've done right and you're taking your last few breaths, then I think you do rest in peace.
And I think that there are people probably who die and they go, Oh my God, I've done terrible, terrible things.
And there are some people that they just don't have those things like that regular human beings have.
They're like psychopaths or something.
And like their fuel is just to destroy and they don't feel guilty.
Do you know what I mean?
Well, we don't.
But we don't know what they feel.
That's true.
We can look at their actions and say, we don't know what they feel.
And for us, for the ones that's been told, be quiet.
You're no longer worthy.
Go away.
You've made a mistake.
You've messed up.
When this is pure, what happens, Rosie?
We keep showing back up.
That's true.
Yeah, that's very true.
We keep showing back up.
So I believe that For the ones that came to this earth gifted, you can't get rid of that gift because it's not yours to take.
That's so true.
Because I was like, okay, I just give up and I'm not going to.
And then, you know, I felt like, oh, God is always calling me on the phone, you know, or whatever and saying, you got to go, you got to go back.
There's so many things to say.
And I'm like, Can't you get somebody else?
Seriously, it never works out good for me when you give me this feeling.
Get somebody that they like and they want to hear something.
But he's like, no, it has to be you and you have to do it because I did give you that gift and you're not going to let it rot away.
I'm not going to...
I'm not going to sit here quietly.
That's how I felt like the fire again you know the fire you have when you're first real hungry and you're you know wanting to make your mark and that talent is on fire in your guts you know and so when you get your first opportunity you just eat it up.
I was hearing you talk about doing some movies and how fun it was and Creating while you're performing, you know, being in the zone of fire, you know, inner fire, and how great that feels and how wonderful it is.
So, yeah, you can't just sit there and do nothing with it.
That'll drive you even more into a horrible depression.
Yeah right?
You've got to act.
You've got to get out there and do it and act and reconnect and reconfigure and just try to find a new way in.
Well I was trying to find a way into people to Help!
That's what's so horrible is because we mean well and we want to heal, right?
It's part of the whole thing is to slay them dragons with words so people can be free, right?
Yes.
And I've gotten okay with if one person gets it.
You know, because you know how when you first come in and you want to make everybody happy and you want everybody to get it and you want everybody to get you.
And then you go through it.
You're like, you know what?
Everybody's not going to get this.
Everybody's not going to get me.
But if one person get me, we don't know who that one person might be.
Yeah, and isn't it great when they come up, you know, in your regular life and somebody comes up and says how they were touched or moved or, you know, wanted to change their life when they heard you or something you did helped them get better, you know, they realized they had some self-reflection because of something you had said.
Isn't that great?
That's beyond money, ain't it?
Beyond money.
Nothing can compare to it.
And I have to tell those people because when they come up and they say, Mo, you saved my life.
And I'll look at them and say, you saved mine too.
Because I want them to know it goes both ways.
We need them.
For me, there was a time, Rosie, that I needed those hugs.
I needed those smiles.
I needed those bright eyes.
I needed all of that to get me through.
Because there were times when I walked on that stage, baby, the stuff was so crazy, I needed the laughter.
I needed to know that people were laughing with me.
And not at me.
So for the people that do that, I'm so grateful.
But I had to let them know immediately.
You saved mine too, baby.
That's true for me too.
They saved me.
You know, it was a big thing that when I went through it, it was really like, it was like, why have I, but this and that and the other.
But one thing that did for me was I used to be, you know, I always wanted to snap on the joke, you know, come back.
Cause that's, Where I grew up and that's how I got along my whole childhood, but it was always like the joke, the snap, it was kind of a way to just separate myself from people, because I'd be like, yeah, you, you know, blah, blah.
Well, you, that's Chris, you know, have a joke there.
And then when I was just so broken, it was the first time when I accepted love from people.
I never had known how to do that before because I was always like, Oh, you're on.
You got to come up here.
You got to do the job.
And I just, uh, it just washed through me and I listened.
I didn't try to come up with a snappy snap back.
You know, I, I took it in, I accepted it and Oh my God, it was so healing.
I have never felt anything like it.
And you know, you were a part of that for me.
You gave me so much love, and you showed me love like a true friend, and I'm going to be forever grateful to you for that.
It was so moving, and I think it made me somebody different, and now I'm even wanting to be more fierce in my comedy.
Connecting with the love rather than the combat, It's changed me, you know what I mean?
Yes.
That's what I saw you doing in your Netflix thing.
I thought, well, she's gone to that layer of where it's not, I'm not here to prove or to defend or to, you know, I'm just here to be me, to show me, to be honest, to be raw.
And that's a whole growth of a comedian.
You know, I remember my husband said to me some years ago, right?
He said, Mama, you're really funny, but you haven't touched it yet.
And I said, what do you mean I haven't touched it yet?
And here, no one's ever been able to talk to me about my stand up.
That was something that was so personal and private and it was mine.
Like that was, that was my baby that I molded that I, so no one could, I didn't allow it.
Right.
But I trusted, I trusted what he was saying to me.
And I said, what do you mean?
He said, we know the greats.
We know them.
We know their hurts.
We know their victories.
We know when they've been victimized.
We know them.
He said, introduce that audience to you.
Let them know who you are.
So with the Netflix special, that's what it was like.
Let me let y'all know who I am.
I have no more to prove.
No, you don't.
But let me let you know who I am and to hear you feed it back to me.
I'm like, she gets it.
But then I'm like, yeah, she get it bitch.
Cause she wanted a great.
So one of the greats will get it.
Right.
So to hear you feed it.
Thank you for that.
It's a, we do see stuff in each other that other people, they can't see cause they haven't lived it.
Like I, you know, We both have survived being knocked out over and over and over, and for stupid goddamn reasons.
I mean, do you think that it's all because we're girls?
You know, I think it's because We're girls with masculine energy.
Oh, you said it.
And I think that masculine part of us says, what did you say?
Wait a minute.
And that can set people back, especially if 99% is saying, okay.
And then you have this 1% and not only are we saying it's not okay, we're saying it with some spicy words.
We're saying it as we're kicking the door in.
We're saying it unapologetically.
So I think that it is, of course, there's a difference when it comes to men and women, no doubt, in our business.
When it comes to white women and black women, white men in our business, it is a difference.
So when you get women at, I'll say, and I say this humbly, but when you get women that have accomplished some of the same things that a man has accomplished, And you say, why is this treatment different?
And no, I'm not going to let it go.
No, I'm not going to just say, okay, well that's just how it is.
I'm going to say something about it.
And so I think our personalities can throw people off a little.
No, a lot.
Yeah.
Repeatedly.
Yeah.
I think that's true.
Well, we do have, um, we have that, uh, We want to compete and we know we can't compete and we know we can win.
And that's hard when you go into a place that's just used to women serving them coffee and saying, uh-huh, yes, oh, what a great idea.
It's not anything they have been programmed for at all.
It isn't in their programming that a woman is that fierce or funny.
It's not, you know, when I started to stand up there was only like three or four other women doing it, you know.
And here it is like 35 some years ago.
I mean, I was in a bubble in Denver there.
But I come, like, you were talking about the difference between black and white women, you know.
and here it is 35 years later and you know I know there's some great black women comedians but you know you're one who's distinguished herself in in those waters but boy those women I have tried to bring along or, you know, anything I could do to encourage and, what do you call it, mentor and stuff, which, you know, to a certain extent I can teach some things and then there's other things I can't, but where are all of them?
I know there's a few great, great ones that are new that people haven't heard of, but where are they?
How come they're not How come they're not out there like all these white guy comics I see all over YouTube?
I mean, how come they're not, you know what I mean?
I think that because though some things have changed, some things are still the same.
You know?
And in the comedy world, for Black female comedians, that's still the same.
It's inching, but it's really still the same to say, here I am.
You know, here's what I'm doing.
Here's what I can do.
It's still almost looked at as if, just be happy we invited you.
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly right.
And when you say, like, Samore is one of the greats.
Adele Simmons is one of the greats.
Miss Laura is one of the greats.
Sheryl Underwood is one of the greats.
Like these women are- I love Miss Pat.
I love Miss Pat.
I try to help Miss Pat, you know, and I brought her on that last comic standing.
I'm like, you're going to win.
You're great.
You're going to win, you know.
And then I saw what goes on backstage.
So, you know, my eyes, these here eyes, they always, I don't know, God forces me to see shit that I don't want to see.
You know what I mean?
Not choose to see what I do.
And then it blows my mind in a million different ways.
And I do see that, uh, they resent, they resent, uh, Well, first of all, I know they resent all working class people.
Then they resent working class women who have a brain in their head and can speak and tell jokes.
They resent that.
Smart women, they resent that.
But a black woman comic, because comedians are about putting the severed pieces together to create a full picture that's new for people that haven't viewed it in that way, to put those severed parts together, you know?
Um, but I've seen them undo black women comedians over and over.
And, you know, I just, I don't know.
I know you, you, you've mentored many women.
But that's why I'll speak to your audience and the people that are listening.
And when people were asking me, why are you fighting for Roseanne Barr?
I'm like, y'all, because I know her.
See, I can't, When I was going through that whole thing, okay, there were very few people that called and checked on me.
I know.
I can count on one hand and then I can take two fingers down, right?
And you were one of those people that continuously said, Hey baby, I'm just checking.
I got a recipe for you.
I got to send you a video of my grand baby.
Hey Mo, I'm out in it.
So it, it, it, That's why I'm like, y'all, we can't throw away the ones that's in our corner, because when you say, I called Ms.
Pat, I'm making sure that, you know, she's okay.
At the Monique show, when wasn't nobody around, you pulled me up and said, check this out.
Don't let them take advantage of you, baby.
Don't let them use you up.
You got something special.
Well, no one pulled, it was you and Rita Moreno.
Wow, that's cool.
It was the two of you women that pulled me up.
So when, as you sit there and you fight for black female comedians, And black writers, because you know what I just felt like?
Well, it was so racist.
I've told you all this, but I said, well, you know that a large part of, I mean, me telling all these white people all this time, all these producers, network folks, you know that a large percentage of the working class are people of color, right?
You know that.
Well, I've got to get those writers to reflect.
I'm trying to do a show that's real.
I don't want to do, I'm doing a different kind of show.
That's why I came to TV.
And the fight that they... I don't know why.
And even like the people that produced my show, they also did Different World and Cosby.
So they had black writers that they could have sent across the hall.
We all worked in the same... But they had something in their mind.
I don't know where they didn't want any Mix.
It's like they wanted segregation.
Even right now, when, like when you did Roseanne, I'm sure after, once I'm on the syndication as the star of the show, you got taken care of.
It's in syndication.
I got 20% of what my work made.
Okay.
But that's better than a lot of people get.
Right.
Well, Countess Varner and I signed an ownership deal, too.
You, as a white woman, have walked away with what you signed up for.
We as two black women, we now in a lawsuit because we're not getting what we signed up for.
We're not saying give us any more, but we're saying we can't take less.
Just give us what we signed up for.
So to say the treatment and difference, our beautiful brother, Dave Chappelle, when Dave Chappelle came out and said, I signed a deal out of desperation.
I did sign the deal, but does it make it fair?
And they said, no, it's not fair.
And they went in and they were able to work something out.
Well, all count is Vaughn and I saying is we signed a deal.
We weren't in desperate measure.
We weren't in desperate times.
We signed a good deal.
Can we just get the deal we signed up for?
So that's the difference in The treatment, that's the difference in what happens.
Yes, we go through it as women.
So if you go through it as a white woman, imagine what we're going through as black women and what happens, I think, in your case, they're looking at you saying, how dare you fight for them?
We're taking care of you, but your heart won't let you do that.
You know, I am grateful that I have a beautiful family.
And I'm grateful that I have a husband.
You've known him... He is back in the room.
You guys are best friends from 14 years of age?
Yes.
Wow.
God given.
He's been there for the whole...
Journey.
You know, the whole journey.
And I'm so grateful for it because I don't have to second guess it.
He was there when there was no money.
He was there when there was no fame.
He was there when I was going through with my family before I got to the fame.
He's been there every step of the way and he's been the person that could Say it to me and how I need to hear it.
That's a big thing.
I know you've been married three times like me.
You know, a lot of them tried to tell you shit, but you can't hear it.
Cause like, F you, I'm not hearing that from you.
But when you can get a man that can tell you so you can hear it, cause it has to be with a lot of kindness that you really got it made.
I loved when you were talking about how you hung up your cape and, and learned to be, The wife of a black man or the partner of a black man.
Can you talk about that?
Cause I, I'm just saying from my side of the fence here, you know, trying to find decent women for my sons to get with.
I know exactly what you're talking about, but I would like to hear you say that.
I love it.
You know, I, um, I was a part of the Oprah Winfrey University of Empowerment and Independency, and you don't really need a man.
I signed up.
Me too.
I signed up.
I wanted to go get it.
It was like, oh, I don't... So I had that... And let me be clear, she's never said that.
I know.
I just paid attention, right?
I just paid attention to the actions of the person.
And it was this whole woman thing.
I am woman, hear me raw.
And my father said, whoever make the money, make the rules.
Well, I've always made the money, even if I worked at Popeye's.
If I was on the cash register, I make more than the fry cook.
I've always had that in my personality and I've had that cape on that I am superwoman because I'm taking care of this one.
I'm taking care of that one.
Everybody come to me for everything until my best friend became my man.
Wow.
And he said to me, when we were best friends, you were not my responsibility.
That was up to your other husbands.
But when you became mine, you became my responsibility.
So you're my responsibility.
And Roseanne, when I tell you, I've never had anybody that loved me when I was at my worst.
Like I was at my best.
Like, because I was a handful.
I was shit.
I was famous.
I had the money.
What you saying?
Until I got with somebody that said, none of that matters.
I see you hurting.
I can look at you.
And if you keep going the way you going, you might not be here.
So it was those conversations that made me submit.
And I know sometimes women get... What you mean submit?
I submit to my husband.
I honor him.
I trust him.
His word is what goes.
It's like, if he says yes, it's yes.
If he says no, it's no.
And I don't feel any less of a woman.
I feel more.
You've got somebody you can trust.
You can trust this works to you, that they are not piercing and mean, that they're loving and kind, and you can hear them, you can let them in.
So I can totally understand that.
Boy, isn't that the rub, trying to get with, find a partner for that when you're like, we are, man, that's gonna be tough.
Right.
And two, we have to grow up.
Because even though we have that gift, you know how they give you something in one ear, but they didn't give it to you in the other?
Right?
So I think that sometimes, or I know for me, years ago, I could get caught on me.
Because don't you know I'm tired?
Don't you understand?
And I can remember I used to always say to Sidney, can you go get me some water?
And he would say, sure.
Can you go get me something to eat?
He would say, sure.
Never.
the one time he said to me can you go get me something to drink and he said so
let me ask you something You think that it's okay
For you to ask me to do things for you, but for when I ask you it's a problem, he said, that's not going to work.
Well, I had never had as simple as that is.
I never had anybody say, that's not going to work.
This is how this has to work.
Like when we first got together, Rosie, I sat at the head of the table.
Because I was, come on baby.
And without it being a conversation, it just shifted.
One day I just sat to the side.
I know exactly.
I went through this exact same thing.
I know exactly what you're saying.
Yes.
Yes.
So I know what you feel when you're saying, trying to see that one's for your sons, because I have sons too.
And my sons are very kind.
They're very, they're gentlemen and they're patient.
They're, they're sweet and they are what I would want my daughter to bring home.
So it makes me a little nervous for what the pickings are.
Because it's like, what kind of personality will they come with?
But I tell them, if they come with your mama's, if she don't cuss, you can't have her.
She got to cuss.
If she don't cuss, you cannot have her, okay?
And she got to be spicy with it.
She got to be down, all the way down.
She got to be loud.
She got to be!
I said, but if she comes with a challenging personality, But she has a beautiful heart.
Give her a chance, because your daddy gave me a chance.
Like your daddy gave me a chance to grow up.
So that's why I took my cape off.
But don't you feel a little bit guilty, because I do, for all these young girls that like saw us, like we saw Oprah, they're like, I'm gonna tell that son of a... You know, and now they're the ones who our sons have to pick.
Oh God, that's our karma.
Listen let me tell you I told them when you tell me she the one we going for a ride you say mama she the one me and your sister taking her for a ride because there's some qualifications you've got to come to the table with.
Can you bake a cake and stretch?
Can you bake a cake with the room temperature butter and the room temperature eggs and a little bit of vanilla?
I'm so signing on that that is very important yeah.
And then I'm going to tell her, if you can't bake a cake from scratch, you better walk around naked in heels all day.
Well, my son here, Jake, that, you know, he was married to this woman.
She talked smack to me, right to my face.
And you know, she talked shit to me, you know, tell me, well, you're like, here's what she said.
Tell me, uh, Well, you're lucky I even let your son come over there to see you after all you put him through with what you, uh, with the boyfriends and husbands you've had, Blah Blah.
Yeah, she did.
Did you take my glasses off?
I had to take my glasses off.
I had to take my glasses off.
Let me grab my glasses.
So, listen, so I, in my mind, I was like, you, I use every damn Bad word.
I'm like, I'm gonna break this up.
This has got to go.
I'm not having this, you know.
So, you know, I had to do some shit and I did it and it worked and I was divorced.
So I took my son over there to Israel because we're Jews.
I took him over there to the Wailing Wall.
I said, you know, I guess, how old were you? 36?
Uh, probably closer to 40.
40.
Whatever.
I says, get over there and pray for a decent woman.
That's what you... Get over there right now.
I brought you over here.
Get over there and ask God to send you a decent woman that gets along with me.
That's the most important thing.
Right?
I'm not gonna bring in some bitch that tells me how I do when I'm friggin 65 years old.
Hell no!
No, I won't have it off any young bitch.
No.
Come on.
Come on.
Now see, this is why I tell you, Rosie, this is where I'm going to have to call you up.
Okay.
And say, listen, I'm at that place now.
I'm not taking him to Israel cause I ain't Jewish, but I'm going to take his ass downtown.
Okay.
And let him go to the wall and talk to it because see, okay.
Now you see what I'm saying?
Let me tell you.
So we come home, not six months later, he meets the perfect, lovely, Woman, you know, so it is all about you.
You will have the final say over your son's woman.
And the best is if you don't let them know you're doing it, you know, you can't let them know how you're doing it, but you will know how to do it.
You raised them.
And when you see, you know, you've got to like really scope her out and see how she, you know, sees what she, and if she's mean to your son at all, You're not gonna put up with it.
Gotta go.
That's right, yeah.
Gotta go.
And I thought... I didn't think I would ever be that type of mother.
Okay?
You didn't?
I have.
No, because...
I have two sets of kids, right?
I have older kids with one marriage, and then I have the twins, you know, and Michael with the marriage to Sydney.
Well, with my older son, I was so busy being famous that it really wasn't that connection.
Yeah, I hear that.
I got it today.
It really wasn't.
So I prayed for another chance.
Like I said, please give me another chance to be a mother, right?
And I got it.
And with them now, it is like I find myself being a mama bear, where it's like, listen, I don't want to have to put my claws into nobody because I know this.
Roseanne, don't let me have to call you until you're locked up.
You have a collect call.
Because You know your baby Jake is a sweetheart.
And not just because you're his mother.
Like, I don't play that.
Like, if my son was a bum, it's like, listen, his ass is a bum.
But you know when you have a good human being.
And it's like, because I know they're good human beings, Yes, if I see that that's going to the left, I'm going to mind your business.
I'm going to.
Cause you know what?
Cause you know what's going to happen?
I tell you what happened.
If you don't regulate the women that they marry and stay on top of it without them knowing, and I'm sure Cindy will tell you the same, but he probably has some other way of doing it, being a man.
But then she can ruin his whole life, that woman, you know?
She can take his kids from him.
You know how these women are.
I just like that you might be into, like, actually discussing how horrible women can be to men.
They can be horrible!
Listen, they can... But I believe it is conditioning.
If you've watched your mama be horrible, your grandma be horrible, your aunts be horrible, who taught you not to be horrible?
You have grown up with a bunch of horrible bitches, so now all you know is to be horrible!
So, and that's why I say to them, if you find someone, she might be loud.
She might be a jump-off queen.
She might be the person that says, I don't bother nobody, but if you bother me, we get ready to fight.
She may be all those things, but if her heart is pure, see, that's the difference.
That is the difference.
I go there too.
Yeah, if her heart is pure, and you can talk to her.
And the ability to do the cake from scratch, that is no light thing.
Come on.
And if she can't, we're going to teach her and I got to tell her, tuck your teeth.
If you can't take them out, tuck them.
Tuck them.
I'm sorry, I saw my grandma, my mom, my aunts, you know, they was all big fat women.
So there goes that.
But they were all horrible bitches to everyone, but as soon as a man came around, they pretend like they were nice.
That's the thing I saw when I was a little girl.
It didn't make any sense to me.
I'm like, what?
Who are you now?
I don't know what you're doing.
Well, in my family, they stay mean bitches when the men were there and when they were not there.
A man didn't change it, baby.
Them bitches was just mean.
Tuck your teeth.
Tuck your teeth.
And you know, because I have a daughter, right?
I got three.
Right.
So now she's a woman, like she's a woman, woman.
She's a grown woman and we have to have grown women conversations.
You know, it goes incredible because she sees by example, right?
She sees my relationship with her dad.
By example, she sees how There's no arguing.
There's no going back and forth.
If he says that's what it is, that's what it is.
I said, but you gotta be wise in your pickings, because every man doesn't deserve that.
Right.
You gotta make sure you got the man that deserves that, that can understand what's being given.
And it's like, we as entertainers, we've seen it all.
We've had most of it.
Not yet.
Hello.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I always say to her, I'm not going to tell you nothing that I ain't been through.
Now what you do with it is up to you, but I'm not going to tell you nothing.
I've already been down that road.
So I'm telling you, if you go down that road, baby, this was going to happen to the car.
But if you go down this road, so we have a relationship where I, I feel like I know she listens.
It's like, listen, but she's the fighter, right?
So I tell my sons, I can't fight your women.
I can't put my hands on them, because I'm too old.
But your sister can kick ass.
That's good.
That's very good.
And then we were talking today about aging.
That's it.
Amen, bitch.
I'm loving it.
You're young.
You're only like your 50s, ain't you?
In your 50s?
I'm 55.
Of course you think aging's great.
Did you go through the menopause yet?
Yes, ma'am, baby.
I'm hot and cold at the same time.
Well, listen, ask Sidney how he loved it because he was like, listen, that's enough.
I'm like, I'm hot and I'm cold and I'm emotional.
And listen, I love everybody.
He'd be like, Hey, get your, I'm like, I cannot, I can't.
One time I thought he peed on me, Roseanne, because the bed was so wet.
I'm like, did you?
Did you pee on me?
He was like, get out of my face.
I done sweat so much from the menopause.
Now, I thought menopause was a black woman's reason to be mean.
I thought it was.
I was like, why are you being so fucking mean?
Well, it was the menopause.
Until menopause knocked on my door and said, hello.
I'm like, are you visiting me?
Am I emotional?
Am I sweating?
Am I cold?
Am I weak?
Am I strong?
Exactly.
I'm enjoying this phase.
I enjoy the videos you send me of your grandbabies.
I enjoy that part of it.
I enjoy when we swap recipes.
I enjoy when you're out in the garden.
I enjoy that chapter of it.
I do too.
Yeah, I enjoyed that.
That's gone, which is good because, well, we both climbed up as high as probably, I won't say as we can go because who knows how, you know, I don't want to put any limit on either of us because I think Sydney's right.
I don't know if either of us have found it all the way yet or not.
When I watch you, this one, we'll talk about that in a minute.
When I watched you acting in that, when you were the killer on that, I can't remember when you, you know, first.
Yeah.
Oh, I just loved it so much.
I love that performance.
I'm a fan of acting and you did things I've never seen before.
I know nobody else could do, but that evil laugh.
I love that evil laugh and that emotional.
I mean, you just really went there.
I don't think there's any limit to, uh, your, Acting and comedic ability.
And I think, you know, in old age, let's make a pact that we're not going to go, oh, we've done enough.
Let's keep trying to grow and trying to keep shocking the shit out of people.
Well, let's shock the shit out of them together.
I'd love to.
You know, I told you I was writing that play.
Yeah.
Let's shock the shit out of them together because I think I don't think, I won't say that I've done it all.
I won't say that.
However, everything I've prayed for, I've been given.
I've walked the carpets.
I've done, I've, I've done the movies.
I've, I've walked on the largest stage.
You can walk on and receive the gold plate.
You got to tell me what that felt like, you know, just for you.
I know I heard you say, Oh, it was for the people and the, you know, how you, You know, the payment was the love and the respect of the fans.
And I understood that.
But just in that little tiny selfish place where we were talking comic to comic, after all you had gone through, what was it like?
I mean, was there some kind of thing where it was like you went back to being three and everything healed or something?
I mean, what was it like?
When I got that, when they, okay, let me rewind.
This is what was special for me.
Okay?
When I showed up that night, let me rewind even further.
I'm in grade, Sidney and I up on the balcony in our high school.
And I looked at him and I said, we're going to be famous.
One day we're going to be stars.
And he said, you first.
So we go from that moment to that moment, right?
Wow.
And I was so, and I'm going to say this humbly because I want to make sure I'm clear about what I'm saying.
I was not so impressed with the night of the Oscars.
I was not so impressed with that night, because as a black girl and woman growing up, when I saw the Oscars, people didn't look like me that got it.
So it wasn't that, when I grow up, I want to win an Oscar.
That wasn't that for me.
It was, when I grow up, I want to win an Image Award, because I saw people win an Image Award that all looked like me.
And you did win that, too.
Several of them and I say that humbly, right?
Okay, so in that moment that night It was a special moment because I received the orchid that Hattie McDaniel wore in her hair Someone brought it to my home, right?
Yes, someone brought this orchid to my home and said this is the orchid Hattie McDaniel the same kind she wore I was supposed to wear orange dress Okay.
But the zipper broke.
So now I have to wear a blue dress, the same color Hattie McDaniel wore when she received her Oscar.
So now we get in there and this beautiful man named Robin comes up to me and says, I'm a comedian and you're a comedian and I'm here.
Presenting.
I guess I'll see you later.
Wow.
He had already sneaked in to look at the envelope.
No.
He said, I guess I'll see you later.
So those were the moments for me.
It wasn't so much receiving that trophy.
It, it, it, it, it was the moments.
Yeah.
But when they said your name, come on, what do you feel when they said, and, They opened that envelope.
Monique!
I mean, did you just about shit yourself or what?
It must have been like thunder and lightning.
I felt Hattie McDaniel saying, go get it.
Because when they gave it to me, I had to sit in the back.
And they didn't bring me up front till they called my category.
So I want you to walk up on that stage and have so much pride and have so much dignity.
And I want you to say what you need to say.
And then I want you to say good night.
And when I said good night, I meant good night because we left there and we went to Uncle Andre's and we got barbecue and we went home and took off all our clothes and ate that goddamn barbecue.
And laughed and said, look what they done messed around and gave me.
Can you believe that?
So it was, it wasn't that, it was just all the things leading up to it.
It was everybody saying, she not going to win.
She, she, she threw it away.
You got to campaign, you got to do this, you got to do that.
And they were coming out like bats out of hell for your ass.
But I'll tell you how I felt when I saw it.
I just had tears running down my face.
I said, she broke every fucking one of their goddamn boundaries.
Look at her!
She broke through every one of them barriers they set up for her.
Every, what, 20 feet along that long road to get there.
I was so proud.
And you're a comedian that did it.
I mean, there aren't, there's just, I mean, yes, you have that legacy of being one of the few black women to have been honored.
There's many more who should have been, and still today there is.
But as comedians, there ain't too many of them that have gone to win the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress, which is basically- And I'm grateful for all of it.
I'm grateful for every award I've ever got.
I am.
I'm grateful for anyone that feels like what I did What's that one?
I didn't know that.
But there's one award I received that means a lot.
What's that one?
Maxine Waters has a preparatory school in Los Angeles.
I didn't know that.
And it's for women that need a second chance and trying to get out there and do it again.
And I went down and we spoke to each other, me and the women, we spoke to each other.
And Roseanne, when I tell you these women made me an award, and you're talking about sisters that don't have the money, they don't, they don't, they don't, but they put together and they made me an award.
That for me, that outweighs all of them.
I've received awards like that myself that mean... I put them up there with the Emmy and all that other jazz on my bureaus there.
Those ones, they really mean a lot.
The most one that I won that I have to brag about, because it meant a lot to me, was that... What's his name?
That guy that makes the movies?
The big movie maker that made, oh, I can't remember anybody's name.
Harvey Weinstein?
Not Harvey Weinstein!
God!
No.
Well, I didn't want to say that!
I didn't want to say that!
But, uh, Oscar, Oliver Stone.
Oliver Stone.
Yeah, Oliver Stone presented me and that was cool to get it from him.
But I got, I won, I won the Eleanor Roosevelt Freedom of Speech Award.
That meant so much to me because anything having to do with her, she was always my idol or one of my heroes growing up because she She was just, she changed, she like was a big change in our country for the way everybody thought about everybody else.
Do y'all see what's happening?
It's like we're fighting and going through it and it's just this and that and this and that.
What happens when the sky opens up?
Now who mad at who?
What happens when the sky opens up?
I'm really saying, you're thinking aliens are going to come here?
A lot of people do think that.
Do I think they're going to come?
You think aliens are coming?
Or you think... Baby, I think they're here.
Did you see some of these people walking around?
You like, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I see you not swallowing.
I see you not swallowing, baby.
Yes, indeed.
You ain't blinked in six minutes.
I saw that.
Oh, well, if you're going to go there, then I'm going to go right there with you because I've been faking like I didn't see that, but yeah, I really go there all the time.
Yeah, I don't even think half of these people on TV or whatever we're seeing there.
I don't even think they're human.
It might be some AI shit they cooked up to get us to look over here while they're stealing all our money.
But you know, I don't even know if they're real human.
I don't know if they're alien or what or if they're... I don't know.
I want y'all to look at my neck.
I got a fat neck.
You see that Roseanne?
I do.
Look at mine.
It's all wrinkled.
If y'all see another Monique and that neck ain't fat.
Are you saying that you think they take people out and clone them and put a robot in their place?
Well, this is what I'm saying.
I don't know what they doing.
I don't know what they doing.
What I know is our eyes, it's like you almost saying, are my eyes deceiving me?
Am I saying what I think I'm saying?
So I don't know what they're doing.
I'm just telling y'all, if you see me and my neck ain't fat.
Did you see that?
Sometimes he's signing with the right hand and then other times he's signing with the left.
Plus sometimes his earlobes are not hanging like, sometimes they're like this and sometimes they're hanging like this.
I don't know which one's the robot or if he's got a facelift or if he's a Every time I see him, I'm like, somebody go get Joey.
Somebody go get him.
Somebody go get Joey.
Go get him.
Go get our baby.
Now, go cook.
He Uncle Joey at the cookout.
Go get him.
Y'all don't go get him.
Now, shit.
Go get him.
When I was a kid, they came over and they'd go, hey, somebody found Grandpa.
He walked 30 miles to the next town.
They thought he was just going to the store, but he forgot where he was going.
They found him 30 miles away.
Yeah, that's what it's like.
Yeah, you're right.
You'd be like, somebody get our baby.
Somebody go get him because, you know, we don't know.
And we know that, wait, listen, listen, go get him.
What's his wife's name, Jill?
Yeah.
You'd be like, Jill, go get Joe.
Go get him, because... Well, do you think they're nefarious?
Like, do you think that it could be they're aliens that's out here to just drink our blood and leave our corpse laying there, taking our lizards and shit?
Do you think they're gonna take our plants?
Again, I don't know what they doing, but if you ever FaceTime me, and my neck ain't fat, I'm going to come get me.
You come get me.
Listen, I was doing a show in New York, right?
It was the first time I've shared this story publicly.
I was doing a show one night in New York, and this guy had on sunglasses in the front row.
And I said, listen, I'm not going to come back over here seeing you with these sunglasses.
There's no sun in here and you're being disrespectful.
I need to be able to see you.
Right?
So he laughing and I walked to the other side of the stage.
I come back.
I said, you, you think I'm playing.
If you don't take them damn glasses off.
Roseanne, he lifted up his glasses and everything was black.
Oh, he didn't have any eyes.
Did you hear what I said?
He lifted up glasses and everything was black.
The energy I got from him was, do you write?
Do you want to comment?
I look back at him.
And the energy I gave him was, I'm gonna mind my business and walk my ass back down to the other side of the stage.
Cause I want to keep my fat neck.
I'm not questioning shit.
Keep your glasses on.
I bought him a drink too, because I didn't want it to go no further.
I didn't want him to be offended.
Oh, that's scary.
So, you know, we don't know.
I thought you meant he just had like a black holes there with no eyes.
No, no.
There was just complete black.
Like it wasn't, it was like, it was as if, take my eyeball, just make my eyeball all black.
Yeah.
Just demonic you mean?
I didn't get that feeling.
Like I didn't get a feeling of evil.
I just got a feeling of you really don't want to fuck with this.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
You really don't want us to go any further.
And I'm just like, you're right, sugar.
You're right.
I'm going to walk down here.
You want to run?
No.
Hennessy, what you like?
That's terrifying.
I'm trying to think of something I've seen from an audience that's terrifying.
I've had a lot of people.
Have you had people go crazy at your shows?
Stand up and start screaming at you and shit?
I had this one.
In Vegas, when I was doing the residency over in Vegas.
And he's sitting in the back, and I'm on stage, and he was like, fuck you, Monique.
You in an open marriage.
What kind of shit is that?
Fucking nosy bastard.
So here comes security, right?
I said, no, no, no, no, no.
Leave him alone.
I said, come up here.
Come on stage.
And I want you to tell me how you feel.
Cause you here with your woman.
And for you to yell that out and you with your woman, you know you not getting nothing tonight because she's embarrassed.
But I'm getting ready to try to save your ass.
You come up on this stage where he came up.
He said, I want to apologize, Miss Monique.
It's all right, baby.
You just was feeling yourself.
Now go on, sit back down.
And I patted him on the ass.
Go on, sit back down.
Yeah.
But people love you because you're so sweet and then you sneak in a meanie.
That's really good.
That's that's like double.
What's a meanie?
Double level.
It's good.
My baby said, you sneakin' a meanie.
What's a meanie, Rosie?
Well, I mean, you know, everybody loves you so much that you could say anything, is basically what I mean.
So when you tell somebody, ah, you know, but you don't do that a lot, where you don't go, well, why don't you go F yourself?
But on the off chance when you stand up and say this ain't, people can, like your husband, people can hear Monique tell them things that they can't hear Real people know it's coming from a real place.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like when I did the reels, and we were talking about you, I said, guys, listen.
If you listen to this woman, she ain't coming from nowhere but love.
The way we deliver it might set you back and be like, oh, shit.
But she's not coming from nowhere but a pure place.
There's never where she's coming to be offensive.
We, as a gifted comedian, we say shit for how we see it.
Now how you speak it, it's up to you.
But then you have to say to yourself, tell me where the lie is.
Oh yeah, that's great.
I love that.
I love that.
That's really, that's a good one.
Tell me where the lie is.
Regardless as to, it may hurt your feelings.
It may have been, some people say offensive, but is it a lie?
Well, no, it's the truth, then we're done talking.
If it's the truth... People are afraid to hear the truth, though.
Let's get political for a minute.
Do you think... I'm trying to fix my... Oh, well, I'll just give up on my hair.
Do you think people are really terrified to hear the truth?
Any kind of truth?
Yes.
On any level?
Yes.
I used to be one of them.
That's why I don't judge it.
Oh, really?
I used to be...
Yeah, because my ego was what it was.
Don't tell me about me.
Don't check me.
I, my job is to pay attention to everybody else.
So I ain't gotta pay attention to me.
So I know what that is.
That's why I don't judge it when I see it.
I speak to it, but I understand it because I can remember Roseanne when I was over 300 pounds, I would not get on the floor.
I would not get on a scale at the doctor's office.
I wouldn't do it.
And she said, Monique, I don't care if you don't get on it.
It is what it is.
You can keep hiding from it, but this is what it is.
I didn't want anybody to say anything to me about it because in my mind, this is how I make my money.
In my mind, I'm a big woman until my husband said to me, if you keep going like you're going, me and the boys will be burying you.
Well, that would.
Well, that's my name.
Yeah.
So I understand what it is to want to be in fantasy.
I get it too about the fat thing.
I, yeah, I didn't, I never, yeah, I had that and I didn't want to hear that either.
Well, how scary is that when you're finally getting your shit together on your body?
Cause after you've had an abusive childhood, don't you think that losing, uh, losing, it's not control, but it's like losing touch.
With your physical body as part of the symptom of having to grow up with that in your head.
And it's just like so that you just put on these layers and layers of protection.
I remember when I was a little girl, I was really fat and I remember having this real clear thought about nobody's gonna be able to pick me up and carry me anywhere.
And it was good.
And I carried it into my entire life.
But it was layers and layers of protection.
And letting that go is hard, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's scary.
It's scary because you get so comfortable in it.
I remember I was comfortable in conflict.
Oh, me too.
Oh, yeah.
I was comfortable.
Something had to be happening.
Something had to be going.
You know, Sidney said to me, he would say to me, nine great things can happen for you.
And that one thing that don't go your way, you knock out all the nine great things.
I was just used to something being wrong.
Yeah.
Because then that's part of trauma in your childhood because then you're like, you're used to it.
And then you feel like you're going to get in there and set it straight and fix it.
But I would ignore I would ignore 3,000 people clapping and standing on their feet for me, for the one heckler that told me to go F myself or something.
That's what I'd obsess on, that one guy.
I never let that, I never let light or love or self-acceptance, I couldn't let it in.
I couldn't, I thought I wouldn't be funny if I, you know?
And I think too, That we just got used to trauma and we felt better with trauma.
We didn't feel good with the standing ovation, that's nice, but I feel better if I walk off the stage and I get on the phone and there's something wrong.
Right, and I think that once we got to a place where we decided to save our lives, people around us took up it.
Because once you decide to save your life, you gotta drop some of that.
Oh, you are so right.
Oh my God, I love how you're putting it.
When you decide to save your life, it pisses the people around you off, a lot of them.
Don't it?
My family.
My family, it was like, what are you doing?
What are you changing?
He's changing you.
I'm like, but don't you see me getting better?
Don't you see me healing?
Well, nobody wanted to see that.
It's like, listen, don't you know we like confusion?
So when you are starting to heal the way that we had to heal, it's like a junkie.
It's easy for us to go back and use.
It's so easy for us to go back.
And that's why I'm like, listen, I've got to walk away, period.
I've got to drop off, period.
Because if not, I'll take that poison into my family that I prayed for.
Oh yes, you are so right.
Oh yes.
We'll take it right into what we prayed for.
So I am at this place where it's like, I am comfortable.
Oh, I love to hear that.
I love hearing that.
But there was 2,999 other people here.
Listen, baby, you should get your money back.
Because it's no fair that 2,999 people had fun and you didn't.
Go and get your money back.
Go on.
Focus on what is instead of what's not.
I never would have come to feeling that love for myself.
For myself, for my desire to touch people and entertain them.
And to feel that they felt something for me besides just laughing at my jokes.
That they actually loved me, you know?
I never felt it till I was down.
Here I am with new eyes.
And all the time I thought my whole life, well, hell, if you ain't suffering or effed up or having some problem, you're not going to be funny.
I did think that.
And now I prove to myself all that is wrong.
I'm right and better.
I'm performing happier and existing in a healthier way.
So, yeah, we both learned a lot about How you can heal from trauma in childhood and having abusive shit happen to you.
You've got to come to the thing where it's like, okay, I'm not going to continue it.
It happened, yeah, I'll deal with it, but I damn sure I'm not going to put myself in the position to have it happen to me over and over because I realize I put myself in those positions.
Right?
Yeah.
Once we became adults, everything that happened, we allowed.
And I can remember Sydney saying to me, because even when I went to therapy and I went to therapy for years, right.
And my therapist who was absolutely incredible, awesome.
And she would always understand and talk me through the behavior because of the molestation.
Right.
And one day Sidney said to me, listen, stop using that molestation as a crutch.
That's something that happened to you when you had no control.
You were a child.
He said, now as an adult person, you have control over your emotions, your actions, your choices, your decisions.
So anything that you do, you are totally responsible for.
Well, that gave me a whole different perspective because I thought I had blamed my behavior on.
It was easy.
It was easy for me to say, well, I'm only doing it because of what happened.
And then you walked across the line into Victor mentality, right?
Yes.
I heard you talk about that.
You did, that you did a later time.
Can you know, you confronted and your brother and you know, That's as brave as it gets.
You know, when I did the movie Precious, it allowed me to stop resenting him.
It allowed me to understand it because it is truly a sickness to intentionally want to hurt Someone that's defensive, right?
Now, do I ever want to deal with him again?
No, I'm very clear about my position.
However, I can move forward without that resentment that was in here.
I can move forward because now I understand it and I wish him the best life has to give him.
I just don't choose to see him again.
So it allowed me to grow up.
It allowed me to understand it.
It allowed me not to judge.
Boy, that's fantastic.
You are a vision of genius in every way.
I love talking to you.
I probably, I probably wore your ass out with all this here, but No, listen, for all y'all listening, I just gotta let y'all know this.
Roseanne will text me sometimes, just so y'all know, it's 3 o'clock in the morning, my time.
I don't know what time it be where Roseanne is, and listen, she be having shit to say, so I will text her back.
I will call you in the morning.
She be like, okay, but I got more shit to say, and she will just keep texting.
I'm like, my baby, like, listen, it's on my heart right now.
I'm gonna give it to her right now, so.
And when the phone be going, ding, ding, I'd be like, daddy, that's Roseanne.
He'd be like, okay, she okay?
I'd be like, yeah, she okay.
He'd be like, all right.
Well, I, I'm just, uh, I, I, I just feel so lucky to be alive and sharing this earth with you, girl, at the same time and space.
And, uh, at these, at this, uh, very weird time, uh, maybe, you know, uh, I just feel something good.
Something good will happen.
Something good is going to happen for both of us.
I felt that for a long time because we put so much good out there.
I just want to see it grow.
I want to see people grab it and share it and spread it, you know?
I love you so much.
Thank you so much for coming on.
I love you too, my baby.
Jake, I want to say something to you, Jake.
You a sweetheart.
So when you used the word accolade, and Jake had to say, no mama's accolades.
I looked at my baby girl like it's the same thing.
Cause I say some shit that don't fit and she'd be like.
We're lucky.
We, we both loved her.
She's just a great person.
A great spirit as you are.
God bless you, your family and everything you do.
You know, I love you.
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