AVI YEMINI highlights security guard Daniel Jones’ confrontation with Australian PM Anthony Albanese in Melbourne, exposing flaws in close protection protocols—just two officers left Albanese vulnerable during a housing affordability and immigration question. Jones, a six-year Rebel News collaborator, critiques the PM’s selective public engagement, comparing it to Penny Wong’s exclusionary China forum, while dismissing media claims he’s violent, stressing his non-aggressive stance despite far-left, Islamist, and neo-Nazi threats. The incident underscores systemic failures in safeguarding leaders amid rising societal tensions. [Automatically generated summary]
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What a week it has been on the campaign trail.
Again, the Prime Minister has been confronted by the daring voting public this time in Melbourne.
Watch.
Mr. Albanese, I have a question for you on behalf of hundreds of thousands of Australians around the country.
Nice to meet you.
There are hundreds of thousands of Australians around the country who are unable to afford housing.
And I have a question for you, Mr. Albanese.
When are you going to put Australians first?
Albanese, when are you going to put Australians first?
That's enough.
Thanks, mate.
That's enough.
Thank you very much.
Yes, thank you.
I'm here to ask Albanese a question.
Thank you.
Elbow, how do you feel about the rise in immigration, mate?
Do you think it's fair?
Do you think it's fair?
Thank you, sir.
No, you don't need to touch me.
I'm not touching anyone.
Thank you, sir.
That's all.
I'm not touching anyone.
Thank you.
That's right.
And you're not also approaching.
Why not?
I vote.
That's fine.
I've got questions.
You can approach him.
Yeah, yeah, we can approach us while we vote.
Otherwise, how can I have a chat about who I'm meant to be?
We don't get public forums.
He doesn't attend them.
What about Penny Wong when she came to China?
They didn't let us in.
Unfortunately, you're not staying here season leave.
That's all right.
I'm happy to do that.
Thank you.
Thanks.
See you later.
No worries.
You have a good day.
Thank you.
And one of the men you heard in that clip, many of you may know.
You may recognise his voice.
Yes, it is our very own security guard that we hire to protect me in some very sticky situations.
Probably the best security guard I know in Australia, Daniel Jones, and he joins us today on the Yamini Report.
Daniel, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on.
Well, Daniel, listen, for the last few days, I've my I don't know if it's just me, but I have Google alerts on my name just to hear when haters and friends and foe talk about me.
I like to know before I'm hit with, you know, blindsided.
So I've been pinged a few times in the last few weeks, in the last few days, and I've got to say thank you, Daniel, because it's all got to do with you.
The media is running hit piece after hit piece and for some reason, tying me into it because it's no secret, you have done some bodyguarding or security for Rebel News over the years.
I think it's probably been a good six years in which you've done security and we've had a good history.
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We'll talk about that in a second.
But it's almost like, look, I didn't know that you guys, I didn't even know.
And I'm here to actually, unlike the mainstream media, I want to talk to you.
You could tell us what happened, why you did it, whatever.
But the bottom line is, surprise, surprise, you have your own political views.
You're your own man.
In fact, the work you do for Rebel News is very minor compared to the actual security work you've done and self-defense work and all the other work that you do.
But it's a shock that you have your own political worldview, isn't it?
Yeah, it's like obviously when I worked with Rebel, I don't say any, it's not my role.
I often say to people, we've got to understand who we are, what we do and what our roles are.
So obviously, while I work for Rebel, my job is security.
So when you're talking to people, I don't interject.
Well, hang on, I've got an opinion here.
It's just not appropriate.
But the reality is, like everybody out there, I do have my own personal views that I think about politics and the way of the world and whatnot.
And on this particular occasion, I decided in my capacity as an individual person, separate of Rebel News and separate of anyone else, to express those political views and ask a question of the sitting or current sitting Prime Minister.
Look, I'm not surprised people, including you, are angry at the direction of the country and are worried about the upcoming election and want to see the Prime Minister answer the questions that the average Australian wants answered, not the selected few media personalities or outlets that he chooses.
And we know, look, I too have attended press conferences with the Prime Minister and he just ran away.
In fact, there was one at the Jewish synagogue where he told, he told the staff that he just doesn't want to talk specifically to me.
He doesn't want to have to answer questions from me.
And there's that very, you know, the viral footage in which he runs away out of the synagogue and into his car.
So I'm not surprised and I'm not surprised by the mainstream media trying to character assassinate you over the last few days for doing it.
I'm not necessarily saying it's the way I would have done it or whatever.
And I want to hear about how you did it and how it ended up that you were, you know, hitting the Prime Minister with questions that he had no idea was coming and he was unprepared for.
And I guess it looked like he ran away.
But that's no surprise.
But are you surprised by the media's attempt to, I guess, I don't know what they're trying to do, probably go after your gun licenses again, like in the past or something along those lines, your security license.
Are you surprised by the mainstream media's reaction to you, what do we call it, confronting the Prime Minister with questions?
I honestly didn't think it would get that big.
You know, it's one of those things where you're asked a question, you don't expect it to sort of go down that road.
But I'm not surprised at all by the mainstream media.
I mean, they've done it for years and years and years to many, many, many other people.
I had a feeling once everything really blew up.
Sorry that it was highly likely to happen.
The thing is, politics attracts a lot of narcissists.
And I don't know whether the people in the media, narcissists or just enabling narcissists.
Narcissists love to keep a harem of enablers.
But when they can't control the person, and obviously I'm not easily controllable, so I have asking questions out of turn.
So when they can't control the person, they want to control the narrative and how people view that person.
So it doesn't surprise me at all that since, you know, I've gone up and asked a question and they're like, oh, well, we can't control him.
He's going to do this.
Or he has done this.
So let's control how everyone sees him.
Let's call up images.
And one of the images they put in, I think it was the age, was eight odd years old at least.
That's the age.
And he goes, Jesus, mate, you look a bit young in that photo.
And I went, yeah, they dug pretty far looking for some stuff.
So how old did you say that was?
Eight years?
I reckon one of them, because I didn't have a beard.
That was at least eight odd years old, that image.
Look, they've been working hard to, I think there's two levels here, or a few levels.
They're trying to paint a picture of those who are daring to confront the Prime Minister.
And it doesn't mean everyone that, or even for that matter, the opposition leader.
But it doesn't mean everyone that's confronting or asking questions or crashing press conferences or whatever, that they are good people or whatever.
It doesn't matter the questions.
I think questions are valid from whoever, but they're trying to paint a picture that they're big, nasty, dangerous people.
And I guess in Australia, it's very easy to paint someone that way if you show some images of them with weapons because Australia has got, even on the Conservative side, have got a particular view, you know, widely held view about any sort of weapons.
We'll get into that in a second.
I want to go back to what actually happened on the day.
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Tell us how the idea came about, how you found out where the Prime Minister is actually going to be, how you got so close to him, because that's insane.
You know, I'm no particular fan of the Prime Minister, but the idea that random people, somebody, no offense, that looks as scary as you could get so close to him is concerning.
Where are the security agencies?
Where is that line of protection?
And I'm not talking about to protect him from questions, but, you know, there are unhinged people out there that no matter which side of politics, especially in today's current political climate, that will want to hurt the leader of the country.
And it's no good for anyone if the leader of the country, whether he's Labour or Liberal, is physically harmed.
It would be devastating to the country.
So I don't understand how you got so close.
Tell us from the beginning where the idea came from and how it was actually executed, which with, if the idea was to ask him questions from a close proximity, how you were so successful in managing to do that?
Look, I don't really know where the idea come from.
All I'll say is on the day I happened of my own accord to walk into a hotel, and I don't want to say what hotel, because I understand with operational security and whatnot, I don't want to give away too many details.
Can you tell us how you knew he was going to be there?
Was it publicly announced or something?
All I'll say on that is I walked into this hotel lobby while wandering around of my own accord and thought I wouldn't mind a coffee, saw this hotel author.
They usually serve coffee in hotels.
So I walked straight through the lobby doors.
Now, the fact that there was several very distinguished white BMWs that all look the same in a row in the lobby should have been a giveaway that something interesting was in the lobby.
Walked in though and got a coffee, sat down, flicked through Facebook.
I think the thing that's upset a lot of people is where they've talked about beefed up security.
I literally, and I'm sure the AFP will go through the CC TV.
And I'll see, I'm not lying.
I did literally just walk straight through the lobby, straight 12 o'clock, straight ahead.
And you weren't alone.
There was someone else there with you because we heard a first voice and then your voice kicks in.
Is that right?
Yeah.
See, I was sitting downstairs on my own enjoying my coffee.
And that's where I heard a commotion upstairs.
And I was sort of like eyes down looking at the phone.
I looked up and I went, oh, what's happening up there?
And I went, oh, hang on.
There's somebody important here in the lobby.
I didn't realize that.
So, yeah, it was there after that person got removed.
I thought, oh, well, I might take my opportunity and see if I can catch up with him and ask a question myself.
So you're telling us that by fluke, you happened to be in the lobby and you watched or you overheard a commotion of a third person, of another person.
And when that happened, you go, oh, wow, the prime minister's here.
I'm going to throw a couple of questions on my own.
That's what happened.
You had no idea he was there.
Essentially, yeah, that's what happened.
Okay.
So how did security react when you well, you from the video, because we can't see any of you, we can only kind of see the prime minister and some security personnel personnel.
So what kind of happened?
So he was getting dragged away and then you just stepped in and what did the security personnel do?
Well, he got dragged away and I think it was about 10, 15 minutes later.
So the way the video is put together, they didn't actually happen together.
No, no, no.
So what actually happened was I approached with questions maybe 10, 15 minutes later, give or take.
So you seen the guy get dragged away and then you and then you waited around till you could spot him again.
Well, I sort of went up and saw him sitting in a like a little outdoor courtyard with approved media who were allowed to ask questions.
So he was filming an interview out there and I saw him out there.
I thought, oh, look, I'm not going to go crash out while he's doing that with the media interview and whatnot.
So I waited till they wrapped up and he walked through the door back into the hotel lobby.
The security cum around him and that's where I thought, oh, I might try to approach him and ask a question and see what happens of it.
So I've got two questions on that.
Firstly, did you know the first guy?
No, no, I wasn't sure who it was.
Okay, no, it's fascinating to me because that means they already had what they would consider a security breach and you managed to be sitting around that entire 15 minutes and no one approached you in that time.
Not a person, not at all.
Daniel said completely unhindered sitting in.
And I think there was, oh, look, I didn't count, but maybe five other people-ish sitting around the coffee area.
So, I mean, it's not like there was a big amount.
There was people, obviously, patrons of the hotel, but there wasn't many people sort of coming and going.
And it does sort of surprise me that the security did seem like the layers of security.
There was no one checking, coming in and out the lobby door of like, listen, you know anyone here?
Do you have a pass to stay here and whatnot?
It was all open to the public.
The prime minister standing out the front had what appeared to be two CPP officers with him or close protection officers.
There was possibly a couple of other people that seemed to be running perimeter or outer checks, but no one, again, like I said, it seemed to be, but no one really approached.
They didn't really pay any attention to me sitting there.
So to me, that's mind-boggling.
Okay, so for context, you've done a lot of security for us over the years.
And one thing I know about you, so when we get into any event or whether it's a public protest or an actual private event or go to a kind of sketchy place or even when we're out and about in not in a situation which isn't particularly hostile or sketchy or concerning of any sort,
you're always, you're always looking for people and when there's somebody that you think just doesn't fit in, you immediately notify me to watch it.
Sometimes you, if it's a place that I know, you'll point him out, you go, hey, do you know that guy?
You know, okay, so in short, if we went to a place where I was talking or facing a group, in this case, the media, whatever he was doing, in a lobby, and there were five, under 10 people, because we're talking about situations where there's generally thousands and you're picking him out.
But when there's five to ten people and you saw someone that looks like you hanging around, there is no way you would not have noticed it.
And so I just don't understand how no one came up to you in that time, especially after he was confronted by one person already, you know, in that time.
That's a failure of security.
Yeah, it's look, I mean, one of the CPP officers was standing further back while he was out in the courtyard.
And in their defense, his eyes were, he was looking around.
I'm gathering after the first time he was approached that being close personal protection officers, they probably were too willing to engage every individual.
Daniel, I don't want to break this to you.
You're not every individual.
If the tables were turned and you were the security guard or you were the close uh, uh protection, what is it?
Uh, close protection officer?
Uh, is that what they're calling essentially a bodyguard?
If you were body, if you were working for me and you saw someone that looks like you sitting there, there is no way you would just be.
There was no way you were going to allow you to come, get that close, to get like fine, I get it.
Maybe they didn't want to engage everyone there, mind you, i'd argue, when they look like you maybe, I reckon probably engage him, like at least spark a conversation to see what's going on, and then don't, definitely don't, let him get close.
But they did.
And with all the talk around, with all the talk around um, upping security around both the prime minister and the opposition leader, it makes no sense that you got that close.
Yeah, I mean, I got relatively close.
It's uh.
To be honest, I sort of blew it when I sort of picked up a little jog to catch up behind them and I yelled out a bit early mate, I looked back at that, went, oh, if I had to just bit me tongue for maybe a second more, I probably would have got a bit closer and and and what does that tell you?
Like, imagine you weren't there not to and and you were there solely to ask questions um, but imagine you were there with, with um more nefarious, for a more nefarious reason, like you were there to actually cause harm and you know, you just at that point bolted and, instead of talking at all, just boom and did whatever it was.
You know.
Imagine, god forbid, you had a weapon or something like that was somebody that was out to target the prime minister.
Surely that's doesn't doesn't sit right with me.
And and you, as a security somebody that worked and trained so heavily in this area of security, do you not see that as a, as a as a problem?
Oh look, it was.
Personally, if I was running the detail for the prime minister, who obviously has a lot of resources, I would have put a bit more of an outer perimeter with a few more look, they don't have to be identified security, but plain clothes security around the sort of the perimeter.
So you've got the close guys near the prime minister and a couple more further out.
So ideally, if someone picks up a job, jog in that direction, the outer perimeter can bang and close ranks to stop that threat, while the people closer to the prime minister just grab him, go mate, we need to go.
We're moving uh as opposed to the uh, and i'm not rocking the security guys that they've worked with what they're given uh, and they did do a good job, in all fairness, but without that outer perimeter.
When I did come, they did quickly close that rank and sort of put their hands up and made sure I couldn't get any closer.
But I mean, it's a bit of a, like to say from a security point of view, if there was nefarious intent or something, it's something luckily we've not had a great deal of in Australia.
Like the worst we've had really is a few eggings with you might sandwich, I think.
Yeah, but it's not that bad till it happens.
You know, there's always a first.
Yeah, and you look around the rest of the world.
I mean, from assassinations to the start of World War, was it World War I or two with France Fernard?
I forget which one.
And then you look at presidential assassinations in America and everything.
So, look, I don't know if you can.
You don't even have to go back.
Just knowing the current political climate where it is so divided, there are so many lunatics out and about.
There are literally people marching in support of terrorist groups.
You have the far left.
You have the Islamists.
You have the neo-Nazi right.
Like you have all these groups that are literally promoting violence at the moment.
The last thing you would think is that you could get so close to one of the people in the country that would be a target to at least one or a couple of those groups, if not all of those groups.
So it's crazy to me.
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But I hear you.
And it does make sense.
They did the best they can with the resources they're given.
I'm surprised that they're not given more resources.
To be honest, I was surprised with how easy everything, like just there.
It's like, oh, okay.
It'sn't really the media were talking about beefed up security.
And you're expecting this hard layer or several hard layers.
And then for having two close personal protection officers, I personally wouldn't consider that beefed up.
Exactly.
And that's my point here.
That's my point here, is that you're not the first person to have confronted the prime minister.
It's been the last few weeks, it's dominated headlines.
Both the Prime Minister and the opposition leader have been confronted.
They've, you know, the headline has been beefed up security.
The government is saying they're beefing up.
But if this is beefed up security, I would hate to see what lax security is because it just seems like you can get way too close to it.
I think we've unpacked that a lot.
I want to know, so to, because I know something that I'm more, I have more expertise on, let's say, is formulating a line of questioning and then trying to execute the questions.
And I know you said you felt like you went too early.
And Daniel, I'll tell you this, you're the security guy, but I'm the guy that generally asks questions.
I could tell you so many times I walk away from a situation.
This was your first time, essentially.
So, you know, what tends to happen is you get that adrenaline dump and sometimes you end up executing it in a way that you're not particularly happy because you either start too early, you can't spit the question out exactly in the way that you want to, the tone or the words or the thought, like it just doesn't play out.
And you're contending with the adrenaline plus the reaction of the person plus the security plus, you know, everyone doesn't want you there plus trying to think.
Tell us how you felt, how it kind of panned out and why you went that particular line of questioning.
Obviously, you say you had 10 to 15 minutes between the first person.
So I'm assuming that's when you formulated the angle in your head.
Tell us how that side of it all played out?
Um look, I didn't think too hard about it, to be honest.
Um, I just went with a question that was on my mind about things where people have been talking about it.
Uh look, I think I did all right.
Where the security said you're, you're not going to get near him, I said, look well, you know don't, don't put your hands on me, i'm not touching anyone.
Um, I mean that said, you know you got to go through the routine in the game.
They're always going to put their hands on you anyway, and I would have done the same.
So that's a real.
You've done it lot of times.
Yeah um, then I sort of said, you know, like I was happy with my response, yeah look, I vote.
I said, oh well, you know public forums and it's about there where everything went a bit hayoh, i'm like well, he doesn't go to public forums and if he does, it's a bit like Penny Wong and what I was trying to say in that situation where I said um something, something in China, or didn't let us in in China, and um, what I was trying to spit out and what I was alluding to and meant was, you know they're talking about public forums.
Well, go talk to him in a public forum.
It's like well, what about Penny Wong?
Uh, was it Box Hill Town Hall or China Town Hall, as they named it?
It's like well, you wouldn't let a certain type of person through into the public forum to ask questions of the elected officials anyway.
So how am I meant to go to a public forum with Labor to ask Anthony Albanese a question when, if i'm the wrong race, the wrong colour uh, the wrong whatever Labor have decided is not the right person, then as a voter, we're going to get to get in and ask it um.
Unfortunately, like you say, the adrenaline situation that didn't get spat out terribly articulately in the video, but it is what it is.
But and as somebody that's experienced that a lot, I can tell you it's quite normal.
It's very hard, you know, and I walk away sometimes, you know, especially in places like the World Economic Forum in Davos, where you, you know you come, you end up coming face to face with somebody.
You've been waiting so long to ask questions and and suddenly I go blank, can't remember what this person does, did what I wanted to ask him, um.
But so, from that perspective, I think you did pretty well and I think everyone has a right to ask the prime minister, especially the voting public, and I think you're right.
I think it's a cop-out to say, you know, wait for a public forum, because the prime minister never lets random Aussies ask questions.
Any of those public forums, they're either targeted for a specific minority so like in the case that you're referring to in box here, where it was targeted only to the Chinese community and anyone that wasn't Chinese was not allowed in, or it's to public forums where they vet every single person they bring in, and so in that case, somebody like you especially, because if you google your name you're gonna you know the media has continually tried to tie you to me um, you'll never get in, you'll never get a question,
and I don't think that that's.
That's a.
That's right.
I would have way more respect in those situations where it's clear that you're not there to harm him.
I would have way more respect for any leader, and this goes for the prime minister, also the opposition leader.
If somebody came up and hit you or disturbed your press conference with questions, is to just actually answer it.
Actually answer it.
And you can say, mate, you weren't invited here, but hey, you have a right to ask a question.
I would say, and then answer the question.
And then, you know, like if the person continues beyond what is reasonable, fine, go, look, I gave you, I answered your question, and now I'm going to walk.
Instead of cowardly bolting and getting, you know, security to do their job, even though I think from a security perspective, you should never have been allowed that close because not because of you, but rather because of the current climate and the fact that if you were there to cause harms, to do him harm, well, unfortunately, I think you were close enough to do it.
Or at least if the intent was there, you would have gone harder and faster.
And if you had, God forbid, a weapon, it was no good.
Speaking of all that, you were there just to ask questions.
So they grabbed you and moved you away and the Prime Minister got away.
How did that all play out?
I don't think they even grabbed me, to be honest.
It was more just like that and pushing and just hands up and more shepherding.
And the Prime Minister was kind of moved on.
Did he have guards again?
Did he have guards next to him?
I think both of them slipped off by memory.
Both of them had slipped off to contend with me while he headed towards the elevator.
he was alive uh i'm pretty sure he i'm not alone He did have Fiona with him at some stage.
No, Fiona.
I'm talking about from personal security, personal protection.
He had no personal protection with him when you were.
Yeah, he had been too close protection officers.
And they came in.
By memory, both of them appealed onto me.
But that said, there was where he was, there was no other way to approach him either because it had gone into a dead endish area towards the elevators.
So that's assuming that they knew that there was no, was there no one else around there?
No, no.
Okay, so he was in a corner where the only way that somebody could get down to him was if they were coming down from the elevator.
Yeah.
Now, let me put it to you like this.
Again, the fear here from a security perspective, like again, let's make it clear.
You were not there with any ill will, like any intention to cause harm.
But if you were, and if this was planned and you were there to distract and somebody else was coming from the elevator as a coordinated attack, this was in a hotel.
So there surely could be somebody from the public that came down in the elevator.
He was left without security.
Is that right?
Essentially, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, for that to happen, I guess you would have had to have planned had someone staying in the hotel who had a key.
But they said it's not out of the realms of possibility.
Mate, to me, it's definitely not out of the realms of possibility because in the fact that you were able to get so close so easily, especially after he was already confronted once.
And I just think it's dangerous.
And I just, when they say, when they promise they're beefing up security, I can't see a situation where it makes sense where, because it just seems like if it was an attack, you would be the person, the perfect distraction.
Somebody coming from below, asking questions and security coming in and dealing with you, the personal protection, leaving him open.
Somebody comes from the elevator.
Boom, they have direct contact with him without any um, without anyone there to defend him, and that just, it's our, it's.
It's the Australian prime minister.
I'm gonna say, with um, security and, given the resources the prime minister's office has the taxpayers expense uh, which is fine, but I would have expected what he had, minimum two close protection officers minimum uh, but then an outer layer of security that would sweep in to someone like me.
At no point I, I don't yeah, I don't.
I don't think at any point there should be a situation where the prime minister of Australia um, especially on the campaign trail in in such a uh, political climate, in such a divisive time, is left alone, yeah.
So yeah, deal with the guy asking questions um, and then also uh, have somebody still with him and and again, it's all like like, like this, there's there's two things here.
Like I make the argument that I, from his perspective, I think he should have engaged you in the questions um, just to make him look like somebody that's not afraid of questions, but from a security perspective.
So there's two things kind of happening happening at the same time.
You should have never been able to get so close, but if you did, from his perspective, he probably should have just engaged in the questions same as the other people in press conferences, because it's not about you or who you are.
It's about showing the public that you're not afraid of their questions and you shouldn't have to be vetted to question and your questions shouldn't have to be vetted like you see on.
You know a lot of these shows like Q A and all that, which is what i'm assuming they want you to do.
Um, I think we've established that this was a massive secure security failure.
It's kind of funny too, like the video there blew up, really blew up.
And the funny thing is, if he had a turn around said, all right, i'm going to answer your questions, I think nothing would have come of me in the video because it would have been okay.
So he answered a few questions.
I think he would have come out on top, I think.
I think people would have respected it.
It would have worked out a lot better for him, in my opinion.
Uh, and I agree with you all the security, it was quite a.
I mean, like you say, I don't want to harm anyone.
I did a big live video about it the next morning.
So i'm like, oh yeah, this is.
This is blowing up.
I better put my point of view across.
Um obviously, I I don't want to harm anyone and, like you say, in this political climate, there are some very crazy people out there and I don't want to be misconstrued to say this or that.
Um, I don't think anyone should be physically attacked or hurt, but what I am saying is the possibilities of that happening.
Um, like when I was saying about political assassinations and that uh, what I was sort of leading to was just because it hasn't happened in Australia.
Like you said, said This climate out there, with some really crazy people threatening violence, It's, I don't want to be misconstrued here, but from a security point of view, you've got to think about this and you've got to say it and you've got to consider it.
That it's not a point of if something bad is going to happen to the prime minister.
It's a point of when is it going to happen?
I think it's going to happen.
You can prepare for it and you should be well prepared so that it, when it happens, you've got measures in place to stop it from happening and reducing or completely mitigating that risk.
Their job should be mitigating it.
And the personal protection must be, you know, the most valuable target in the country.
There should be no question about ensuring people cannot harm him.
And this on this, in this occasion, which shows the broader problem, they are failing to do that.
And I fear that, yeah, you're right.
Like, I think it's not a question about whether people want to hurt him.
There are people, there are unhinged people in our society from both sides of politics that are targeting political leaders.
And if they get the opportunity, they will hurt him.
And so the only way that is stopped is the only way to ensure that never happens is if his personal protection and both buttons is of a standard, of a level that cannot easily be breached.
Now, what we've seen here is nothing even close to that because you accidentally got so close.
So I would hate to think somebody who planned it out.
But moving on, like the media again, the media on one hand, who have been promoting the narrative that security has been beefed up, has then on the other hand, tried to paint you as somebody who is one of those unhinged people that are potentially trying to harm him.
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I know you.
I know that none of that is true.
But I'm a far-right terrorist now, and I've been wanting to learn what is the appropriate alahu akbar for alt-right terrorism because I'm going to have to learn how to say it according to the media.
Look, and the media is disingenuous in their reporting of you and picking up.
I've skimmed through a bunch of the articles.
It's the same nonsense.
They're looking at your live.
I didn't watch your live.
And they're taking words, things that you say out of context and they're taking photos of you.
I know you as somebody that's been very into security, into self-defense, into close quarter protection, but also personal protection, bodyguarding.
That's why you've worked with us and I've seen you operate.
You've saved me a bunch of times.
You've never been violent towards someone.
You do say stuff that intimidates or raises that is easy to take out of context.
So straight up, is your intent to ever hurt any political figure in our country?
No, no, it's I wouldn't.
It's like I said in my life Eater, if the team I don't want wins this election, stiff.
You go home, you lick your wounds, you reassess what went wrong and you plan for the next four years to do it again.
And for that four years, you grit your teeth, you bear it, and that's the will of the people.
That's how democracy works.
Other, I suppose life choices are you can have totalitarianism, communism, where you just shoot everyone who disagrees with you.
And we've seen in the real world that can and has and does happen.
It's I'm happy in a first world country not being shot at.
So all I'm going to say is I'm not going to harm political opponents because that is not the kind of society or world that I want to live in.
I would rather lick my wounds for four years and go, well, I hope my boy gets in next time and we get some improvement as opposed to violence and chaos.
Because obviously you don't want loss of life or unnecessary loss of life.
You don't want violence or unnecessary violence because nobody prospers from that.
Nobody wins.
People get hurt.
People die.
Families get torn apart.
Lives get torn apart.
And there is no particularly positive outcome from any of that.
So there's no reason for me to sit there and say, look, we should be hurting elected officials.
So the media's painting you in a very different light.
And I've got to say, with the way you look and some of your interests and hobbies in Australia, it's very easy.
And some of the things you say, you haven't made it particularly hard for them.
Do you have you had any kind of backlash so far?
Have police come to speak to you?
Have you had any, you know, I know in the past they've managed to get your security license, your drug, your guns confiscated for a period.
We helped you fight that because it was, again, it was a politically motivated.
Has anything come of it yet?
And are you worried that there's something coming?
Nothing's happened yet.
I've been expecting a knock on the door for a like, listen, mate, we want to talk to you.
No, no one's knocked yet.
On the day, did police have a conversation with you after, or they just moved you and that was it?
No, just moved me and that was it.
Or because they sort of got the point where, what's her name?
Fiona, the communications minister.
And that was a very conjurescending, smug smirk.
You're not a guest here.
And it was about that point.
I went, look, there's no point in persisting and pushing on.
I'm just going to make the security do more work than they have to do.
I'm not going to get a question anyway.
He's moving on.
So it was at that point I just said, yeah, look, I'm happy to leave.
And I walked out.
Like, nobody pushed me out.
I walked out of my own accord because the moment was over.
It had passed.
And I didn't look back.
I assume that security would have got straight back onto Elbow and up the elevator and off to safety.
But that's one point I did want to make with the papers where you say some of the stuff I've said.
Because my mother pulled me up on this one.
She goes, oh, I was just here in the paper.
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You said something about, you know, easy to kill people.
I went, oh, God, here we go.
You know, because I had letters from certain, what do you call journalists?
Sorry, certain journalists from certain outlets that had outright said to me, listen, you know, we've got this evidence against you from the White Rose Society.
I thought, Jesus, hang on, you're labeling me a far-right extremist.
Oh, right, far right.
And you're getting your information from the White Rose Society, a group well known for being a very far-left extremist group that quite often misconstrues and takes things out of context and then embellishes things out of context.
They support Hamas.
Enough said.
This group that has, and just so people know, the White Rose Society is appropriating a group that fought the Nazis.
in World War II on behalf, you know, to protect fighting back to protect the Jews.
And they've spent the better part of the last year and a half targeting Jews for a group that shares the same ideology as the Nazis.
Make it make sense.
These are the worst people in our society who are protected for some reason.
They'll label you as a far right, but they will not describe them as far left.
Yeah.
And what, too, that Dr. Kaz Ross and they're like, and Dr. Kaz Rose from the White Rose Society, a researcher, has researched into Daniel.
And one of the things they love to put around is a picture where Blair Cottrell was speaking.
Now, this again was years ago.
This was before they openly became Nazis.
I remember that.
Look, I think there was a thing where, you know, they were sort of no one Nazis, but I'm in the photo in a mirror in the background.
And the White Rose Society has taken this one photo.
So you're talking about one split second in a moment of time and they're like, this is evidence he's a Nazi.
And the reality of this photo is I was there.
I don't deny it.
What was it?
What was the secret meeting that was held at their gym headquarters?
And the meeting was about the idea of forming community groups to patrol the community to help keep the community safe from rising crime that was happening.
So it was nothing to do with neo-Nazism.
I only attended because the idea of community safety was interesting to me.
It still is.
So I thought, you know what?
There is no harm in turning up one time to get their perspective, ideas, and hear what they've got to say.
But I remember at the period of time, so I know you say, you know, they were called Nazis for a long time, but there was a period of time in which people like Blair Cottrell were claiming not to be Nazis.
And it was much more in that time in which that meeting happened.
Yes, there were people on the part of the groups.
You know, you had like Neil Erickson at that time, who had been part of the Nazis and then claimed that he was against the Nazis and doing all these videos.
The thing I would say is in response to that, and And I love when the White Rose Society and the mainstream media are so worried about people like you to be a Nazi when we're good friends.
I'm a proud Jew.
The Nazis hate me more than anyone.
You've been a defender of the Jews in the last few years.
I guess when it comes to actions speak louder than words, your actions over the last couple of years, especially since October 7th, but I know you've worked with me for a lot longer than that, but since October 7 has shown that if I have to, if any Jew, if any Jew has to put your deeds next to the deeds of either the White Rose Society or much of the mainstream media, including those who are painting you as a Nazi now, they would say that, no, you are a defender of Jews,
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while that group, the White Rose Society, plus many in the mainstream media, well, if we have to decide which one is more of a neo-Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer or a Jew hater or whatever, somebody that supports anybody that wants to annihilate the Jewish people, it will be them, not you.
And it's disgraceful that they use that.
They try to paint you because it's not hard.
You're white.
You've got a head that's bald.
You're a little bit of cap and baldness.
I can't help it.
You could fit the profile from when somebody looks at you and if they have one image in which they can take out a context and paint you in that way.
But it is, they know they're lying.
They are no, they know they're lying by omission.
Oh yeah, even that thing where, like I say, the context where I said, you know, it should be easy to kill.
The actual thing, and I stand by what I said, and I'm going to say it now.
I stand by what I say is that you should be hard to kill.
Didn't say people should be easy to kill.
What I often say is you should be hard to kill.
Like you shouldn't be a vulnerable target.
You shouldn't be an easy person.
And you look at what's happening in Melbourne, you know, with the home invasions where five people come through your door and you got your kids sleeping in the room, your missus.
You should be hard to kill.
Listen, someone they can just walk in and go, oop, and now we're going to do whatever we want to your kids and missus.
And I don't want to go into how bad they can get, but it's just the way they misquote.
And again, like disingenuous.
The White Rose Society, Dr. Kaziroz, they know what I've said and they're purposely giving it a little tweak so that it sounds worse than what it is.
And then you put that next to some of the photos, some of which are five, eight years old.
You know, look, I've put silly things up on the net.
You don't think it's funny?
Two things.
We all have flaws.
You definitely have done some things which I think you walked away and go, oh, I probably shouldn't have done that.
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But also, I know that you're somebody that, one, either enjoys shit posting from time to time, but you also, when it comes to self-defense and talking about, you know, combating violence with violence, I know you're a direct person that doesn't sugarcoat any of the realities of violence.
And when I said earlier, you sometimes make it easy for them, it's because you do run that security thing, that tactical combat, combatives page and security and self-defense classes and whatever.
So, and you do, that's how you talk because you're not trying to make things less, you're not meant to, you're not, you're never trying to paint something less brutal than it is.
You say the brutal truth that you believe, but you never incite actual violence.
And the truth is, you're a self-defense guy.
You've always promoted it and you've acted in that way.
And I think even what you've pointed out here in this situation has been to try help the government ensure that we protect, even if they are our opposition, the leaders of this country.
Listen, before I let you go, I want to know, are you worried though?
Because the media is working overtime to take you out.
They want to scapegoat you.
Are you worried that something's going to happen from this or you're not at all?
I'm not particularly worried.
It's, look, I've not done anything illegal.
I'm not going.
I'll point that out real quick.
I'm not going to do anything illegal either.
So I'm not really worried.
It's not my first rodeo.
I've weathered a few storms before.
I'll take it as it comes.
To be honest, when I popped up in the age and everything, I just had a huge laugh about it.
And I went driving around to make sure I could pick up one of the papers to put in my collection of times I've ended up in the media and gone, oh, I think this is my new favorite one, actually.
I'm not too concerned.
I'm actually surprised I haven't, but if I got a knock on the door from the Australian Federal Police, again, I've done nothing illegal.
I'm not worried.
I'd be happy to sit there and say, well, listen, I'm happy to answer questions if you got them, you know, within reason.
I know that about you, but I also do know the processes of punishment and you should know that because you've been through that.
And that they often can open an investigation and you being somebody that relies for your income on, you know, to survive on a security license.
And that's something that's very easy for them to take away, at least to suspend while they're investigating.
But if you're not worried, look, we know you've definitely done nothing wrong.
And, you know, we know that we can always rely on you and call you to ensure our security.
So I hope that there's nothing.
I hope you're right.
And I know that there's not many things that phase you in life.
But, mate, it was good to have you on the show as well.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on.
Look, God honest, I think it's just a good old struggle session, the old communist struggle session.
Like, if we can just embarrass him and change the narrative about how everyone views him, that should be enough, you know.
So I think the punishment is, in their eyes, that, you know, I'm meant to feel ashamed and embarrassed and I'll meant to be ostracized from family and friends because I've ended up in the paper as this terrorist, which is fine because that's not exactly how it went.
But I think that probably will be the end of it, that they run that through and that is the punishment or the outcome they were hoping for.
I don't know.
I personally have, I think the mainstream media, especially when it comes to right-wingers, not the extremists on the left from the White Ray Society, but when they go after the right and the yeah, but I feel like they always have an ulterior motive, which is far more nefarious, and it is to publicly pressure the police to do something.
Whether the police go and follow up or not is another matter.
I hope they don't.
But either way, you know, you have our absolute support because we know we can always rely on you.
And I know who you really are.
And I, you know, and no matter how they paint you, I know that you're a genuine, a genuine person who believes in protecting what's ours and never inciting violence, never turning violent, never anything to do with that.
Because to be frank, I wouldn't have you around if you were like that.
Well, here's the funny thing.
I mean, if they come up to me and say, Daniel, will you protect Anthony Albanese?
Here's the conditions.
Here's the pay.
Here's what's happening.
Me, I might consider taking the job.
Because part of protecting people, and I had to do it, where you protect people you don't particularly agree with, it's like it doesn't matter.
As a security professional, your opinion is irrelevant.
Your job is to keep someone safe.
And if you say yes to the job, that's exactly what you do.
For better, for worse, for right or wrong.
That's what you said you do.
That's what you do.
So if the AFP knocked on my door right now and said, listen, here's the pay.
And I looked at it and went, you boys kidding?
That's, I mean, I would probably protect FD Albanese and run a security detail because it's not like I've got anything against the, oh, I don't know him personally.
I've got nothing against him personally.
I just don't like the government's policies at the moment.
And that doesn't make people in the government bad people.
It doesn't mean they don't deserve protection or security.
And it doesn't mean that I wouldn't provide it for them.
So I like the note.
And this is what I think we'll wrap up on.
You're saying, listen, if Albanese, there was clear failures here in his personal protection.
If the government wants, I am volunteering, not well, volunteering to take on the job, obviously pay job, to help him fill in the gaps of where they failed in your case and in some of the other cases in this campaign.
Is that we're saying you're happy to join as his personal protection team?
Wouldn't say yes, wouldn't say no.
I would say, as with any job, you look at the conditions and I think the AFP conditions are going to be far better than anything you've worked.
They're definitely going to be better than the conditions you get at Rebel News.
I've got to say that.
They've got like working at Rebel News.
I know.
I know you wouldn't, you know, we've hired through the years multiple different security personnel.
And I've got to say that you are definitely the best we've ever had.
And I would hate to lose you to the AFP to be protecting Albanese.
But I dare say that their conditions, because they've got far deeper pockets than we do, the taxpayer is a lot greater than the revenue that Rebel pulls in from the viewers watching this.
The conditions will be right.
You would be happy to up, when they say beef up the government, the prime minister's security personnel, you would be happy to join that team and to ensure that he actually has proper security.
Yeah, yeah, I probably would, to be honest.
There you go, Albanese.
The ball is in your court.
Thank you, Daniel, for joining us.
Where can people find you on, I think you're on Facebook and X and where are you just before I let you go?
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I'm not overly active on X.
I got another band the other day.
I'm very active on facebook.com slash tactical force combatives.
And I have started a little t-shirt line where I took the photo from the A, oh, I didn't.
Morgan did it for me.
The photo from the age with the rocket launcher, and it's got a cartoon thing that says, I stand with rocket launcher man.
So, yeah, I thought I'd make up a bit of merchandise as well.
So, you're embracing the names that they're giving you.
I love it, brother.
Have another one.
Till next time, take care, stay safe, and uh, I hope to see you there side by side with the Prime Minister next week.