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April 21, 2025 - Rebel News
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EZRA LEVANT | Media Party still melting down after Rebels flip the script at Leaders’ Debate

Ezra Levant accuses the Liberal Party and CBC of election law violations over "Make Canada Great Again" buttons, trademark theft, and biased reporting during the April 21 Montreal leaders’ debate. CBC’s Rosemary Barton allegedly misrepresented Rebel News reporter Drea Humphrey’s questions—later corrected on April 17—and refused Levant a right of reply despite unedited footage proving his interaction was off-air. Levant also challenges Mark Carney’s financial ethics, citing $25B tax-avoiding transfers to the Bahamas and ties to China/Jeffrey Epstein, while contrasting Pierre Poilievre’s conservative policies on immigration, pipelines (Bill C-69), and economic spending. The episode underscores systemic media bias against conservative scrutiny, urging accountability via lawbreakers.ca and cbclies.com while defending Rebel News’ accredited but contentious role. [Automatically generated summary]

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Merch Store Vibes 00:02:36
Hello, my friends.
The reverberations of the leaders debate last year keep on vibrating.
We're going to talk about a couple of crazy incidents, including a video I took of my encounter with the CBC.
You can let me know what you think of that.
But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.
It's a video version of this podcast.
Just go to RebelNewsPlus.com.
Click subscribe.
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That's rebelnewsplus.com.
Tonight, more echoing vibrations from the leaders' debate last week.
It's April 21st, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
Shame on you, you sensorious bug.
Hi, everybody.
There's a few videos I want to show you today that I just recorded today.
The first one is about merch.
I hope you don't mind.
I'm wearing my hoodie today.
I actually forgot my jacket in Montreal, and they're sending it back here, but I'll have to get another jacket for the show.
I know I'm looking a little casual, but I really love wearing this Rebel hoodie.
And I don't talk a lot about our merch, but we do have a store, RebelNewsStore.com, and I love wearing this out and about.
People come over and chat with me, even in foreign countries.
I was in the United Kingdom, and a cabby asked me about Rebel News and talked to me about Tommy Robinson.
So it's a great way to sort of show your identity.
And for people who don't know Rebel News, it sort of stays anonymous.
They just think, oh, that's some hip brand or something.
Reason I'm talking about our merch is because you might know that in 2016, when I first heard the word make America great again, I thought that's a pretty cool word, pretty cool phrase.
How about make Canada great again too?
Canada was still pretty great then.
We hadn't decayed under a decade of Justin Trudeau yet.
And so I filled up the paperwork to apply for a trademark of Make Canada Great Again.
I just thought I'll probably use that one day for something.
And indeed, in 2019, I got the trademark.
And we sell some merch at our store for Rebel News.
I mean, we use Make Canada Great Again as one of like 100 things we sell.
And we recently signed a licensing deal with a company that loved it so much and said, hey, we'll give you a portion of every hat we sell.
Well, that's win-win.
I tell you that to let you know that we actually do work the term make Canada great again.
And I know not everybody likes that, but some people love it.
Sued The Liberal Party 00:15:02
Which brings me to a lawsuit that I filed last week.
Here, watch this video, which we rolled out earlier today.
Take a look.
Hi, everybody.
Ezra Levant here.
I'm outside the CBC headquarters in Montreal, my stomping grounds.
I'm kidding around.
If I weren't here because of the leaders' debate, they would probably escort me off the property.
But while we wait to go back in, they're just having the police dogs sniff around for any danger.
I want to tell you about something I did today that's got nothing to do with this debates.
Guys, I sued the Liberal Party of Canada today.
You can find the lawsuit at a special website I set up called lawbreakers.ca because I allege in that lawsuit, and it's only 10 pages long.
It's a very quick read.
I allege that the Liberal Party broke the law and violated my rights.
Now, this isn't some cockamamia scheme.
They stole from me.
I don't know if you saw about a week ago, there was something called Button Gate.
Turns out some liberal, dirty tricksters from the war room went to a conservative conference and brought a bunch of sort of Trump paraphernalia and sort of pretended that it was conservative.
What they were trying to do is make Pierre Polyev look like a little mini MAGA guy, like a mini Trump.
So they had all these pins and Trump stuff, and one of them were pins that said, little buttons that said, make Canada great again.
And the idea was that, look at that, ha ha ha, Pierre Polyev is just like Trump.
But it wasn't any conservatives, and it certainly wasn't the Conservative Party.
It was dirty tricksters from the Liberal war room.
And I don't know if you remember, but Mark Carney was asked about this.
And he pretty much confessed, but instead of firing these unethical folks, he just reassigned them.
Did you see him say that?
Members of the Liberal War Room, so the central campaign distributed stop the steal buttons at a conservative event.
Given the anti-democratic implications of this phrase, how much does this event undermine the trust in the way that the liberals operate?
And what have you done in response to these revelations?
Thanks for the question.
Look, this is totally unacceptable, to be absolutely clear.
And on behalf of my campaign, I was unaware of this behavior, but on behalf of my campaign, I apologize for it unreservedly.
I've made it absolutely clear to my campaign that this behavior or anything approximating it or in that spirit is unacceptable, cannot happen, cannot happen again.
Well, here's what they didn't think about when they did their dirty trick.
Number one, I know from experience, if you publish campaign material and do not register with Elections Canada and have written on your stuff authorized by the Liberal Party, you're violating election law.
It may not sound fair, but believe me, I went through it when I published my book, The Libranos.
They chased me for years.
And so I know if you're campaigning in election, you got to put authorized by so-and-so.
But there's one more thing the Liberals did wrong.
Make Canada great again?
I don't know if you know that, but a few years ago, I trademarked that phrase.
I had no idea that it would become a thing in the debate, but you can look it up.
I registered the trademark to make Canada great again.
And the Liberal Dirty Tricksters stole that from me.
They stole my trademark without my permission.
They made buttons without my permission, and they did it in violation of election law.
Now, the thing is, Mark Carney could have taken responsibility and said this is wrong and fired them, but he didn't.
He just reassigned them.
Who knows what they're working on now?
I'm suing because that's my property.
Like it or not, I own Make Canada Great Again in Canada.
They deliberately tried to confuse people to make it look like it was Pierre Polyev or even me.
I don't know.
They violated election law.
So I am suing them for violation of the trademark.
And in the lawsuit, it's a very quick read.
It's only 10 pages for violating election law and trademark law.
Go see for it yourself.
Here's what's interesting.
I've sued the Liberal Party of Canada, but I've also sued John Doe 1 and John Doe 2.
Those are obviously not real names.
Those are placeholder names until we find out who actually did it.
Are you a little bit curious?
Oh, I sure am.
Who was it that actually did this?
Who gave the orders to do it?
Who paid for it?
Those are all very relevant things when it comes to getting damages from them for stealing my trademark, but also for violating election laws.
Were there campaign managers in on it?
Was Mark Carney himself briefed on it?
Because all of that is going to be relevant, and all of that will be discoverable in this lawsuit.
You might think Ezra let it go.
It's just a little theft.
It's like shoplifting.
No, no, no.
You missed the point.
When the prime minister of the country, who's prime minister now and running to be re-elected for the prime minister, waves and blinks and laughs at law breaking, we're in deep trouble.
Now, Elections Canada would never do anything about this on their own, but you know what?
I'm a Canadian and I've just filed the lawsuit.
Go to lawbreakers.ca to check out the lawsuit yourself.
And if you want to help me find out who the dirty tricksters are behind here and get a little justice, because no one else is going to, go to lawbreakers.ca and chip in a few dollars to help me cover the legal bills.
Let's hold these liberals accountable.
God knows these regime media journalists won't.
That's lawbreakers.ca.
What do you think of that?
I think it feels like destiny or something, or certainly chance, that they stole property from me for their campaign dirty trick.
Like of all the people, don't they know I'm going to assert my rights?
I mean, I think if anyone else had the rights to some of those buttons, they would say, oh, what can you do?
The prime minister stole from you.
How are you going to fight back?
Well, I know some lawyers and I know a little bit about my rights.
And I actually do value that trademark.
So we're going to see the Liberal Party of Canada.
Not only them, but we're going to find out who John Doe number one and John Doe number two are.
All right, I have one more video for you.
And this one, I want you to be very honest with me.
I want you to watch it and then send me your messages.
This is my encounter with David Cochran, the CBC journalist who spent basically all day last week smearing Rebel News, trying to get us kicked out of the Debates Commission.
I went to him during a commercial break and I said, hey, you're bashing me on air.
Can I come on for a write-a-reply?
And they basically said, buzz off.
After that, he told everyone who would listen that I busted up his show.
I interrupt his broadcast.
I was a wild beast.
And I had videoed my interaction.
I thought he's lying.
And so many people believed his lies.
I said, you know what?
I'm going to publish the video of our interaction.
Here, take a look.
Hey, there was a weird moment at the leaders' debates in Montreal last week where the CBC sort of stopped reporting on the news about the election and instead turned into a lobby group trying to get the debates commission to ban rebel news from being accredited, even though two courts had said it was an illegal infringement on our freedom of the press to keep us out.
Nonetheless, the CBC and in particular, their host David Cochran, who I'd actually never spoken to before, they were just obsessed with getting us kicked out.
Talk about inside baseball, though.
No one else in the country cared.
Now, I watched some of David Cochrane's reports, including him making the allegation that Rebel News was somehow doing illegal things with our beautiful billboard truck.
Cochrane actually told that lie to the debates commissioner himself as part of his vendetta Rebel News.
It was really weird.
Watch just for a moment.
Okay, so I know the past precedence, but like this is a filing with Elections Canada from this election where Rebel News has filed as a third-party advertising group.
They are raising money in their own documents for partisan political activities.
That's not what a journalistic organization does, right?
So I appreciate that you've lost in the past, but if they are raising money to run ads to influence the outcome of an election, surely a judge would look at that and say, this isn't a journalistic organization.
Perhaps we didn't get there.
But why not?
Like, I understand you lost before.
This is a material change in their conduct.
They have this truck going around with a video wall promoting conspiracy theories and allegations, mostly against Mark Kearney.
Let's face it, like we're showing it there.
You can see this on the screen.
You know, that is one of the few things we can show on TV that appears on the side of that.
I mean, this looks like evidence in a court battle.
I mean, you're entrusted with this authority.
Why not?
showed them in the last lawsuit doing an advocate political advocacy and they did not convince the judge so for us this agreement this this argument was not going to be more effective this time yeah that's sort of crazy they also complained that we had a third-party campaign group just like the cbc has just like most journalists do with their union uniform anyways um Cochran was factually inaccurate there.
Those ads on the billboard truck are clearly marked.
They weren't Rebel News ads.
The CBC was accusing us of doing something contrary to the Elections Act.
This was on top of a full day's defamation of us.
It really was remarkable, the vendetta.
So I waited until Cochran was clearly in a break.
And I politely approached him on his set to ask him if I could come on a show even for a few minutes to try to set the record straight.
It's weird that he was spending so much time slandering us without even asking us for our side of the story.
I mean, we were right there.
So I waited until it was really clear that he wasn't on TV because I saw other guests standing up and leaving the set and a producer in a bright red shirt standing up to do things on the set, obviously blocking the camera shot.
So I knew that they weren't on the air.
And I went over to ask for a write of reply and I was refused.
So I left after just over a minute.
They never did let me or any other rebels on to correct their lies.
In fact, they did the opposite.
After I asked for a rebuttal, they ran to Michelle Cormier, that's that debate commissioner, and they told him that I had come onto their set and into their set.
That's what they said.
And that I wouldn't leave.
That's what they said.
And that I interrupted a live broadcast.
That's what they said.
They demanded that I be kicked out for this.
Now, obviously, Cormier had told the CBC that based on that complaint, he would indeed kick me out because Cochrane reported on TV that I had been kicked out.
Did you see this?
Here's what's going on here.
To my left, there's the room there where the media is gathered.
It's where they can watch the debates.
This is where the scrums are happening with the leaders.
There was some sort of an altercation inside there in the last little while involving Ezra Levant, who is the head of Rebel News and other journalists.
Michel Cormier has escorted Ezra Levant out.
His credentials, we believe, has been revoked.
But that just didn't happen because I showed Cormier a video of the whole incident.
And he immediately realized that the CBC had lied to him about us and what I had done.
Believe me, Michelle Cormier does not like me and Rebel News, and he would have loved to have kicked me out.
And frankly, if I really did crash the CBC's live broadcast, they probably should have kicked me out.
But David Cochran just made up a false story, another defamation of us.
Cochran was still raging about us, and here's what he wrote on Twitter.
He said, we were playing a 60-second report when Ezra accosted me.
He wouldn't stop.
So the control room in Ottawa kept playing tape to prevent the incident from carried live on air.
The debate commission wouldn't take action because we were in commercial.
We weren't.
So this was allowed to continue.
We had to scramble to cover the incident by placing tape until it was over.
No proper professional interrupt the broadcast or work of another professional journalist.
We were inside an RCMP swept security perimeter today for our job, and the Montreal police had to be called and we had to sneak out of the building we owned with the help of security to get home safely.
Oh my God, was it really that bad?
Is any of that true?
If it was true, you'd think the CBC would release video of it.
I mean, after all, they literally caught it all on camera.
Is it really true that I wouldn't stop?
Is it really true that they had to scramble?
Or is it in fact true that they were on a break?
And their own producer was leisurely puttering around the set, doing things I don't know exactly what he was doing before I arrived, while I was there, and after I left.
Did they really scramble, given that our entire chat was about a minute?
And did they really call police?
And did they really have to sneak out at night because of their safety?
Is all of that true?
Is any of that true?
Well, lucky for me, we recorded the incident.
Take a look at the full unedited interaction.
Observe that when I arrive, a producer was standing in the shot.
Observe how I asked if I could somehow reply to their day-long attacks on me and I was told no.
And after asking a few times, I just left.
And if you can find any police in the video, let me know.
Okay, let's take a look.
Play the tape.
So you can see, I arrive, and there's a CBC guest.
Okay, stop right there.
So that was a guest getting off the panel.
And you can see someone in a red shirt or sweater puttering with Rosemary Barton's earpiece or something.
So you could see that that first guest who was just leaving the CBC panel, he was in the shot where I am now.
He casually said hi to me.
You can see there's a producer in red who's puttering around in the shot.
They're all clearly on a break.
And I introduced myself immediately and said why I was there.
Here, watch a little bit more.
Yeah, how are you doing?
Live On Air 00:05:36
How are you doing?
I'm live on the air.
Okay, Roger, come to the revolution.
I'm live on the air.
I don't interrupt your broadcast.
I'd ask you not to interrupt mine.
Okay, stop for a second.
He said they're live on the air.
Is that true?
Do you see the guy in the red sweater with the hat on puttering with Rosemary Barton's equipment?
Was this really on air?
This was happening before I approached.
This is why I approached.
I could see that they were not on air at all.
Maybe they were about to be, but not in any way that that guy in the red vest took seriously.
You'll see that he was there before I arrived, while I was there, and after I was gone, was he scrambling?
Were they talking at all?
No, they weren't.
Here, keep playing some more.
I think we have to correct something you said right now.
Did you see my challenge?
Okay, stop it right there.
So I didn't go to talk to Rosemary Barton.
I mean, she lied about us in other ways, but I really went because David Cochran had this whole day-long vendetta against us.
Rosemary Barton stood up instead of doing whatever she was going to do and squared up with me and called security to have me thrown out.
All right.
I mean, in fact, you can see I step down and start to leave.
I'm only a few seconds away from leaving.
But these people were not on air.
They were not trying to make a broadcast.
They were not in any rush at all.
The fella in the red sweater kept doing what he was doing, but Rosemary Barton was quite aggressive, or at least tried to get the security to be aggressive.
But, you know, I left soon enough.
Here, take a look.
All right.
Well, David, I'd like to come back on and reflect some of your errors about Revolution.
Yeah.
That's cool.
See you later.
Have a good debate.
Who can I talk to you about that?
He's leaving.
Go into the media room, Israel.
Like, I know you're going to...
I know you're doing your thing.
I'm doing a show.
I know you dropped your broadcast.
Is there someone I can talk to?
Is there someone talking about this?
So stop there.
So by now, I'm out of the shot.
The guy in the red sweater is still there doing, I'm not sure what he was doing, but he was still doing it.
They're obviously not live.
None of them are live.
None of them are being broadcast.
And I've stepped away because, frankly, I don't want to, you know, put the security in the pickle.
They were commanded by Rosemary Barton to shoot me away.
But I'm still asking, is there anyone I can talk to?
I mean, they had talked about us all day and said some very particular false facts about us.
They defamed us.
And I waited till there was a moment to talk to me.
I mean, normally you reach out to someone you're going to attack in journalism, just to make sure you get your facts straight.
They didn't do that.
I positively said, hey, is there anyone I can talk to?
Can I come on the show?
You said some defamatory things.
I'd like to rebut them, even for a few minutes.
And all they said was, we're busy.
Go away.
Go away.
Rosemary Barton really felt like chiming in for some reason.
I think she's got a bit of a, she hates rebel news, but I made a gentle crack about the two of us.
I had challenged her, the two of us, to have a public fitness contest.
I don't think she liked that very much.
Anyhow, keep playing the rest of the tape.
David's in charge, bro.
But is there like a producer or a lawyer or something?
So stop there again.
Rosemary Barton literally pivoted in her seat, spun around, because she still wanted to argue, bargie with me.
These are not people who were on air.
These are not people who were busy.
These are people who were still puttering in some break.
The guy in the red jacket is still there.
The reason I tell you all this is twofold.
To let you know just how unprofessional they are in terms of getting the other side of the story.
All day they had been attacking and smearing and lying about rebel news.
But they never once reached out to us to check a fact or invite us on for some right of reply, never once.
So I calmly waited till I could see they were not on air to ask for that opportunity.
I didn't raise my voice.
I didn't swear.
I didn't shout.
I didn't call security.
I just said, can I come on the show?
Who do I talk to?
Is there a producer?
Is there a lawyer?
You'd think at that point they would say, send an email, or here's a phone number, or we'll send someone over.
They basically said, ha, no, we will never platform you.
That's essentially what they said.
So I left.
Total engagement time, just over 80 seconds.
Play the rest of the clip.
Well, we'll have to find another way.
And that's it.
Is that how David Cochran described it?
It is not.
The CBC are liars.
David Cochran and Rosemary Barton, they're liars.
Correction Crisis 00:14:49
They lied about Rebel News.
They lied about our reporter, Drea Humphrey.
I don't know if you saw, but in her case, they actually were forced to issue a grudging correction, even though that correction wasn't man enough to say sorry to Drea or, in fact, to say who their correction was about who they smeared at all.
I think the CBC are out of control.
They were not acting as journalists at the debate.
They were Mark Carney's personal smear machine.
They were trying to get us kicked out of there.
David Cochran lied on the air, and then he lied in his tweets, and then he lied to the Debates Commission.
You saw his tweets.
He lied.
We never interrupted their broadcasts at all.
Never trust a word the CBC says.
Always remember, they hate you.
Sign our petition at cbclies.com.
The petition is that they should stop treating the CBC as a personal vengeance machine.
I know they don't like rebel news, and I know they hate me and hate Drea Humphrey and hate our team.
But if they're going to be journalists, they should invite people on when they attack them.
And they shouldn't be so afraid to have the other side of the story on their show.
They're welcome on my show anytime.
Those are words you'll never hear from them.
Go to cbclies.com.
What do you think of that?
I want you to be very candid with me.
Was I rude?
Maybe a little bit.
Was I too rude?
Definitely not.
Were they in the wrong by not asking us for our side of the story?
I think so.
Hey, while I'm asking for your feedback, let me read to you some of the comments that folks are making under the video on the paywall site.
So these are Rebel News Plus comments.
And there were so many nice comments in the last few days.
I'm going to read some of them to you.
Bernhard Jatsuk says, after seeing a number of videos of the reactions to what happened with the post-debate media scrum yesterday, one can safely conclude that the days of gentlemanly reporting, typified by the work of people like Norman DePoe and Charles Lynch, are a thing of the past.
The vitriol and language used to describe rebel news and Ezra Levin in particular would never have been tolerated 50 years ago.
Then again, journalists were allowed free and independent thought back then.
It was crazy.
And I mean, I got a really thick skin.
I don't care.
But the way they went after Drea Humphrey was shocking.
And the way that the Quebec Québécois media went after Alexa Lavois, I tell you how those young women stood up to this, it was amazing to see their resilience.
Jerry Purbis says, great job, Rebels.
Once again, you expose the regime media for what it is, smug, arrogant, and condescending.
It's the same here in the States.
As someone explained that attitude to me, if liars' pants really did catch on fire, the news would be a lot more fun to watch.
Yeah, I mean, they did all the things they accuse us of doing.
They were rude and disruptive.
That's what they accuse us of doing, but we're not that way.
Bernhard Jatzik actually has a second comment and says, did any of them actually see how that nut bar reporter for The Hill verbally attacked Kian Becksty and then Ezra Levant?
No doubt the presence of Juno and Rebel were considered unprovoked acts of violence.
By the looks of things, the leftist media finally has their January 6th type of incident that it's been craving for years.
That's exactly what I said.
I said they trumped it up into, oh my God, we had to, if you listen to the CBC, they said, oh, we needed police and we needed an escort to get out of there and I was violated.
I mean, I think they've been radicalized.
There's something's wrong with them.
These people are not right in the head.
Susan Gerbis says that CBC reviewed from Mark's comment, Rebel News was to blame for everything.
What absolute cowards our national media is.
Please vote conservative so Pierre can abolish this leeching organization.
You know, it's a terrible idea to have the government run debates because all those decisions are not proper for the government to make.
The government should not decide who can and can't attend.
And it's the fact that they tried that gives us the charter right to go to court.
Perversely, paradoxically, ironically, whatever you want to say, the fact that Justin Trudeau nationalized debates is precisely how we get in because it makes it something subject to the Charter of Rights and the courts.
David Neal says, make this episode free and spread it out there.
We did.
We emailed it out far and wide.
I'll just read one or two more.
I really like these comments.
These are comments that you can make run under our video.
Bruce Acheson has a very long one.
I'm not going to read it all, but I'll encourage you to find it on our site.
And I'll close with Nicola Timmerman, who says, Our household just resubscribed to Rebel News after the incredible spearing of Rebel going on by the media.
I believe Ezra said commissioner asked to speak to him about the English debate, and he offered to let him ask one question, and Ezra agreed.
So, why cancel the scrum and why no journalists present?
What Ezra said, not making a fuss about getting more questions.
And Menzies getting attacked again?
Crazy.
You're right.
I love the idea of just having one question instead of a question and a supplementary question.
Sorry, I totally agree with that.
That would have a lot more questions go through.
Second of all, I think it's a good idea to limit a question to 30 seconds or more, probably 60 seconds.
So, sorry, I misunderstood your letter.
I absolutely agree with what you said there.
But the whole point wasn't to make it a better debate or a better scrum.
Their point was to shut down Rebel News any way they could.
And in the end, the only way that they could was to nuke the whole thing.
It was really sad.
I mean, Jagmeet Singh is a bit of a racist.
He wouldn't answer the question by the only black woman in the room, Drea Humphrey.
He looked down his nose at her, and it was sort of a gross moment where he mansplained to her that she wouldn't, she's not allowed to ask questions.
He was pretty gross.
But let's be honest, Jagmeet Singh is sort of dumb.
I mean, he's really cool.
I'll grant you that.
He's really good at TikTok videos, but he's sort of dumb.
And I think by saying, I'm not going to talk to Rebel News, that lets him avoid answering tough questions.
When I say he's sort of dumb, he just sort of is.
Is there a single policy out there that you can say Jagmeet Singh really knows his stuff?
There was an interesting little statistic that the debate showed of how many minutes of talk time each candidate had.
And to their credit, I thought the debate itself was quite well run, by the way, both the English and the French.
The French debate, they tallied up how many minutes and seconds each candidate got.
And Jagmeet Singh's was way down low because the guy is not built for debating.
He's not really built for ideas or answering tough questions.
So I think one of Jagmeet Singh's strategies for avoiding embarrassment is to say, oh, I don't like that journalist, so I'm not going to answer that completely legit question.
Anyway, I want to show one of the videos that one of the questions to Jagmeet Singh.
I say again, it was our own Drea Humphrey.
And she asked a question about the anti-Christian crime wave in Canada.
I talk a fair bit about the anti-Semitic crime wave in Canada, torching of synagogues, smashing glass, shooting up a girls' school.
Like there's this very serious crime wave against Jewish institutions, but there's also one against Christian institutions.
And thank God it hasn't had anyone harmed yet.
But over 200 Christian churches have been vandalized or even burnt.
You might recall a few weeks ago I went up to Winnipeg to film a church that had been totally torched.
So Drea Humphrey, who is herself Christian, and by the way, black and indigenous, asked a question to Jagmeet Singh.
And I want to show the question, but Ephraim, I also want to show Rosemary Barton's response to it.
So here's Drea's question, which was an excellent question.
The CBC hated this question.
I'll show you how.
Take a look.
Hello, Mr. Singh.
Drea Humphrey, Drea News.
Your party takes great pride in standing against hate, such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and all.
Sorry, I didn't get your outlet.
Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.
Okay.
Your party.
You know where I'm going to go with this, though, right?
Can I speak?
Yeah, you can.
I'm just going to say, you know where I'm going to go with it, though.
Wow.
Your party takes pride in standing against hate, such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online hate speech.
Yet you stay silent about ongoing attacks against Christians, even after conservative MP Jamal Giovanni's order paper question revealed that over 200 churches have been targeted by arson and vandalism since claims of remains being discovered at former residential schools swept the nation in 2021.
These claims have been disproven by bans that excavated and remain unproven by those that have not.
Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today and explain what your party will do moving forward to keep Christians safe from hate in Canada?
Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization that promotes misinformation and disinformation like Rebel News.
So no, I'm not going to respond to your question.
Wow.
Yeah, thanks very much.
That's enough for that clip.
So he called that misinformation and disinformation.
And so did Rosemary Barton, my doppelganger at CBC.
Do you have that clip of Rosemary Barton just raging against Drea?
So Drea has been on this.
She actually went to Kamloops to look into the allegation of mass graves.
She actually bumped into the chief and talked to the chief.
Okay, take a look at Rosemary Barton describing Drea's question as factually false.
Take a look.
I think we have to sort of address the elephant in the room.
How are these people chosen to answer these questions?
And I don't know if either one of you have an answer for that, but I think there will be people at home saying, some of these seem like odd questions.
Some of them aren't getting answered.
How come we've heard so often from this one particular outlet?
Any idea what's going on?
There's three right-wing, very right-wing media.
We can call them media websites that are present in there.
They get in line to ask a question like anybody else.
Their accreditation has been approved by the Commission of Debates.
And so they get the right to stand in line and ask a question that they choose to ask.
In this case, you saw Mr. Singh, and this has been his position for some time, to refuse to answer questions.
Rebel News in particular, traffics in misinformation, facts, lack of facts, and as you heard in that question, which was woven with some truth and some things that weren't true.
Yes, there have been burnings of Christian Catholic churches.
Yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places around the country, which she misrepresented.
We'll see if Mr. Polyev gets any questions.
Well, in fact, Mr. Polyev did get questions from Rebel News, two questions asked by Sheila Gunri, and they were great questions.
There's some sort of weird implication there that we don't ask tough questions to Pierre Polyev.
But let me bring your attention to something that I just discovered today, which is a correction.
Do you have that handy, Evron?
The official correction on the CBC's website.
Now, you could see it right there.
Yeah, scroll down a little bit.
They made the correction on the 17th.
They said on April 16th, during a live broadcast following the French language federal election leaders debate on CBC News network, chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton said, quote, yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places across the country.
As CBC News has reported on multiple occasions, what several Indigenous communities across can have discovered on the sites of some former residential schools are potential burial sites or unmarked graves.
So there have been no unmarked graves that have been found because none of this, I mean, the accusation has been made by airheads like Jagmead Singh and Rosemary Barton, but none of them have been found yet.
So she was lying, or maybe she's just dumb.
I don't know which one's a better one.
Are you lying?
Like, did you know it was a lie and you said it on purpose?
Or are you just that dumb?
You're the chief political correspondent for the state broadcaster and you don't know your basic facts about an incredibly large issue.
But imagine the chutzpah to call Drea the misinformation peddler.
In a fact check, you position yourself as a fact checker.
The CBC did more fact-checking of rebel news at the debates than they did of Mark Carney, who they're championing for obvious reasons.
He said, far from cutting the CBC as Pierre Polyev has promised to do, he's going to give them a boost in spending.
Rosemary Barton is a disgrace.
The CBC is a disgrace.
They lied about Drea.
Much more importantly, they lied about the truth.
They lied about Indigenous graves.
And they don't, you know what?
We get things wrong once in a while.
We occasionally publish corrections, and even occasionally we publish apologies, as in, we didn't just get it wrong in a neutral way.
We got it wrong in a way that hurt someone.
Every once in a while, we publish an apology.
It doesn't happen often because we take getting our facts accurately very seriously.
But every once in a while, we have an apology, a retraction, a correction, whatever.
You'll notice that so-called correction did not say who they were smearing.
They couldn't bring themselves to say it was Drea and Rebel News who got it right.
And second of all, they didn't tweet this.
Rosemary Barton didn't retweet this.
They buried this on a page of the CBC that no one ever goes to.
That shows their mind, doesn't it?
You know, they're not glad to be corrected.
They're not happy that the truth came out because they prefer the lies because it suits their agenda.
And yeah, what a day it was.
What a couple of days.
And Rebel News just smashed it.
And I got to tell you, it was such a team feeling.
I was so proud of our people.
And what you couldn't see in that Drea Humphrey clip, and I mentioned this that night.
I don't know if you saw my live stream comments.
One thing Rosemary Barton said accurately is there's a ton of other journalists in the room.
100, 150, somewhere between 100 and 150.
That's 120.
And anyone can get in line.
So we just got in line, and four out of the five of us had questions.
I actually was the only guy on our team that didn't move fast enough to get in line.
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The CBC had four questions too.
There were 17 questions asked.
We had four, CBC had four, and the other guys had the rest.
And we just moved a little bit faster than the other guys.
You know, how about work a little harder if you want to beat Rebel News?
They're so lazy because they've never really had true competition before.
I don't know if you remember that clip where it was David Cochran, the bald guy, Rosemary Barton, my separated at-birth twin.
And then there was a commentator on the other side, Adrian Arseneau, who said, some viewers at home might find these questions to be odd.
What?
Who the hell are you to say that?
She was objecting to the substance of our questions.
As if the C, and there was an extended conversation to that effect.
And they were basically saying, how dare you ask things that we don't approve of?
Literally, who the hell are you, sister?
Like, who the hell are you?
That's what irked them.
It wasn't that we had four questions.
Like I say, the CBC had four questions.
That didn't irk anybody because they were the right kind of questions, weren't they?
Just unbelievable.
Yeah, they call it, is that a new clip you have there?
Yeah, play this one if this is a new one.
This is a good one.
If it's on time from seeing Jugmet Singh at the podium, but Rosie, I'm curious what stood out to you because at one point when some of those last questions came up, I just checked to make sure, yeah, no, we're in Canada because these identity politics questions asking about transgenderism is uncanny.
This happens on the same day that the United Kingdom, that's where a court ruled that woman and sexual biological sex.
True North is a very right-wing website.
There have been issues in the past with who gets allowed into these scrums and who's allowed to ask questions of the commission.
The Debate Commission was the one who decided that these people were allowed to come in and ask these kinds of questions.
So there you go.
These kind of questions, it's in questions they don't like.
Oh my God, you couldn't fit more pomposity per square inch, per cubic inch in my doppelganger Rosemary Barton.
Just incredible.
Hey, you know what?
Let me just check to make sure I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.
You know, I'm not very good at the live streams because I don't pay attention to things I'm supposed to do, like, you know, read out super chats and things.
So I want to make sure I do what I'm supposed to do.
But can I tell you something that I did last week that I didn't tell you about because I was so busy focused on the debates.
Remember Button Gate?
Button gate.
That's such a silly word, adding gate to any little curve bubble.
It's so dumb.
But do you recall?
Actually, we may as well play the video.
It's only about five minutes, right?
I want to show you what I was up to.
Now, I was out there in Montreal and I was totally focused on defending our team, handling the debates commission, fending off the jackals.
Oh, I didn't finish that story.
When Drea Humphrey was asking her question, it was like all the demonic jackals were hissing at her and heckling her.
They were heckling her.
Other journalists were heckling Drea.
He wasn't picked up on her microphone.
It was insane.
I've never seen anything like it.
By the way, that's the exact behavior they accuse Rebel News of when, in fact, it's them what does it Alexander Boffer Rebel News and I'm currently in Nippian riding the Mark Carney riding.
So I came all the way here in Ottawa.
First of all, I wanted to take part of the press conference of Mr. Poiriev this morning.
Unfortunately, we didn't get a question in.
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We took the opportunity to speak with the resident about what their thoughts are on Mark Carney, the candidate.
So you will see it was really hard to get the opinion of the people, but we managed to get some of the people who wanted to talk with us.
So I'll let you check the full report.
President Trump, he's clear about his strategy.
His strategy is to break us so that America can own us.
You know, we are over as a country.
We are over the shock of the betrayal.
But we should never forget the lessons.
Never forget the lessons.
That's right.
We didn't ask for this fight.
We didn't ask for this fight, but Canadians are always ready when someone else drops the gloves.
Elbows up, elbows up.
And in this trade war, just like in hockey, we will win.
Can I ask you quickly, what do you think about Mark Carney?
I think he's a socialist liberal who is very friendly with China, along with a lot of other Laurentian elites in Canada, just like Trudeau.
He's just another shade of Trudeau, with a different face.
That's why he's the current prime minister now, right?
He's got the same policies, but just a new face that doesn't have as much negative controversy as our previous prime minister.
I love him.
Yeah?
For which reason?
He knows his financial information.
He knows how to handle the economy.
And I think he's the best to deal with Trudeau.
Or not Trudeau, Trump.
We were thinking he would be the one we would be voting for.
For which reason?
Because my wife told me.
That's a kind of good reason, I guess.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, it's been watching the news a little bit.
Yeah, I think he's my choice.
For which reasons?
Education, experience, international exposure.
Wait, you said that Chandra Arya was removed from his position here to be replaced by Mark Carney?
Yeah, Mark Carney is good.
I think my opinion is my guiding area.
More than Chandra Aria?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah?
Not a big fan.
No?
For which reason?
I just, I don't think he stands for what's good for Canada.
I think Canadians deserve better.
And I think the Liberal Party have proven themselves as ineffective over the course of the last 10 years under Trudeau.
So I think it's time for change.
We're not sure what we think yet.
Yeah?
You wait for the debate?
Yes.
But so far, do you have any maybe concern about one of the 50-50 chance right now?
Okay.
I'm hoping he loses.
Yeah.
Why?
Because I'm a conservative and I don't like what Trudeau did for the past 12 years.
I'd like to see Rob Ford run.
Rob Ford?
Yeah.
Not going to vote for him.
No?
For which reason?
Don't like him.
Don't like him?
No.
I'm not much of a voter.
Maybe my soon, like future-wise, I'll be voting.
I don't really have a stand on it right now.
Are you planning to vote for this year?
I haven't voted in five years, so no.
No?
And what about you?
Maybe next year, or I need a little bit more detail soon, but maybe this year.
So where we are in Canada right now, and especially in comparison to what we're seeing in the U.S., there's been a really high rise in far-right politics among people around our age, right?
And so when I think of this election-type deal, and I think of Mark Carney, I think of Pierre Polyev, whatever, like that, I'm really nervous that we're going to get into that, like sort of, you know, I mean, the Trumpisms and things like that.
So, in terms of how I feel about Mark Carney, I mean, I'm not, I don't think of politicians as celebrities or anything like that.
He's a great perfect guy for the position.
You know what I mean?
But there is sort of the loud minority that comes from groups like that.
The, you know, I mean, the Holocaust deniers, the abortion people, stuff like that, and everything like that.
So it's not really specific to Pierre Polyev.
It's more specific to the party lines and what the parties can sort of pander to.
Yeah, I don't like bankers, but I like Mark.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm excited.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm really excited about Carney.
I think he's handling this situation with the tariff war with Trump extremely well.
As you say, look, I followed all the rules.
I've followed them in advance.
I've disposed of my assets before I became prime minister.
So, and have a blind trust.
I have conflict of interest screens.
I work only for the people of Canada.
My only assets now are cash and personal property, which means a house and college.
How do you react when you heard that Mark Carney used Bahamas to put investor money of 25 billion dollars instead of putting here in Canada and paying tax to Canada, instead of avoiding it by putting it in the fiscal even?
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Canadian law allows investment companies to invest where they deem appropriate.
It's in though.
Now, whether you want to argue whether it's ethical or morally right to do that, that's another entirely different issue.
I think Mark, I think his biggest attraction as a politician is that he understands the international monetary financial economic systems.
And there's nobody else running these days that has that kind of a background.
And I think that's what we need for the person in charge, I guess.
Did you like Justin Trudeau?
Oh, I didn't mind.
No, I didn't mind Justin.
No, I knew his father.
Well, I'm a Brookfield shareholder, so I have to say I'm interested in profits, yeah.
So you don't care that they didn't pay their share to Canada to help paying for programs?
I'm not exactly sure it works that way.
Ultimately, ultimately, the people at the end pay their taxes like me.
I wasn't aware of that.
I'd have to investigate that, see if that was valid or not.
I think it's very unethical.
Yeah, I think it's, I mean, it's a proven track record of mismanagement of money, even when he was, you know, went over to the UK, mismanaged money over there in the role that he had there.
So yeah, I think his track record is not good.
And like I said, I think Canadians deserve better.
I read about that this week.
I don't know enough to have an informed opinion.
Him moving his company to the U.S. wasn't good.
There's a lot of things that I don't like.
Absolutely.
Anybody that avoids taxes should have issues with her.
And again, not a partisan thing.
If you're a conservative, you're avoiding taxes, it should be investigated.
If you're liberal and you're avoiding taxes, that should be investigated.
I don't care who you are.
There's no surprise.
These people, they advocate taxing the rich and giving to the poor, but they always find a way to make themselves a lot richer when they're in government.
It's a nice coincidence, isn't it?
Let me turn the table and ask you.
It sounds like you're coming from a conservative perspective.
No, I'm just asking questions.
Paul Yan will do the same thing as well, though, right?
He doesn't have any.
He doesn't have any skeletons in his closet.
No, no, any money in the middle of the money.
But he also doesn't believe in body autonomy.
Abortion, right?
He's actually been clear recently that.
But you go back to some of his old statements.
He said, this is what I'm saying.
We don't know the truth.
Everybody has things that they did and they said, but he doesn't need the money.
He doesn't need, you know, he could retire.
He's doing this, I feel, for the right reasons at the right time.
Did he make some mistakes?
Of course he did.
Is he going to have some challenges?
Yes, he will.
But that he chose that knowing, you look at Trudeau, he made some mistakes, the blackface and all of those things.
That resurfaced.
It doesn't mean he's racist.
It means he's a young idiot kid.
What do you think about the fact that Mr. Carney was able to get the loan from China, the Bank of China, for Brookfield Asset Management?
And we still not know how much share is still hold of this company today.
I don't know.
He was saying that he was going to put everything in a blind trust.
So anything that he has that is in a blind trust, he has no control over.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I think there's definitely influence there.
I think there's numerous things that he's done over the course of his career that are politically motivated.
So yeah, I think there's major concerns with him in power.
Yeah, no, that doesn't mean anything to me.
No?
There's been a lot of things with him that I don't like for sure.
So where we stand right now in Canada, China has a lot of interference among everyone.
It's very apparent that the, sorry, not apparent, it's evident that China colluded to make Pierre Polyev the leader of the Conservative Party, or at least they helped in that.
It's also very apparent that China's been caught garnering favor for Mark Carney in the States based on, you know what I mean, social media campaigns, things like that.
The fact that Mark Kearney has done some business with China, sure, can be a bit concerning, I agree.
That being said, we are still part of a global economy and we still need to participate with all countries, America included, even with the craziness that's coming on right now.
Do you think it's a bad idea to hold money from a dictatorship country?
Well, I think we probably owe money to the States and they're pretty close to a dictatorship first now.
Well, the answer is that the American influence is 100 times greater than China.
China would ever have.
China's influence is essentially with respect to Canadians who have roots in China or associated with China.
And that seems to be where they seem to, people that they seem to be talking to.
But India does the same thing.
It's a little bit, it's a side issue.
don't see it as a major issue.
As far as Brookfield is concerned, they...
Unless the media make it a major issue.
Yeah, and Brookfield, it's a large investment company and it looks for its best return that it can get for its assets that people give it to invest.
So it doesn't bother me too much.
I don't think you're going to find anyone that hasn't done anything that maybe, you know, that has crossed some lines as far as one way or another.
I'm sure Polyev has some posits in the skeleton.
Do you think that Mark Carney should just be clean in front of Canadian about the relationship maybe he has with Justin Maxwell, that she's the accomplicite of Jeffrey Epstein?
We still don't know yet what is happening around that.
No, we don't.
And we can't really make a decision until we know what's happening around that.
Do you think you should disclose it?
Yes, I think so.
You know, it is a hot topic.
That's hard to say.
Who knows if they were just there casually, you could have had no idea.
So I don't really have an opinion on that.
But if you disclose, everybody would know then.
Yeah.
Were they friends?
I don't know.
100%.
100%.
If you want to run this country, you've got to disclose everything.
Now, whether Mark Carney got that deep into it, if he has compromised on him, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but we don't have any evidence, right?
But I don't put it past these kind of folks to do all kinds of some creepy stuff.
Mr. Carney, Renee Brewer, much.
Last night on Tour Monday Paul, you mentioned that for Justin Trudeau, the economy wasn't a main priority.
Could you elaborate on what you meant by that and how you plan to differ?
Yeah.
Of course, I'm speaking in relative terms, but I stand by what I said.
I'll give you a few examples.
You know, over the course of the last 10 years, the pace of government spending, particularly operational expenditures, rose by an average of 9% a year.
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9% year after year after year.
That's about twice the rate of growth of the economy.
The level of government support for industry and business investment and housing and other factors will be considered.
You'll see when we release our detailed platform.
That level of support is much lower than the level of support that we are going to give it.
Do you have a faith that Mark Carney with the same cabinet, almost the same cabinet behind him, can actually do something?
Because the cabinet with Trudeau were kind of responsible of what we are seeing today.
Well, yeah, and I'm not going to say that it's been perfect under the Trudeau government, but The pandemic had a lot to do with it.
And also, I think a change of leadership.
I have no issue with Trudeau.
He did the best he could.
He made some mistakes, but we all do.
I think a change in leadership, even if even though it's the same team, sometimes, like, you know, like in hockey, they say they lost the room, right?
It's the same team.
Look, I'm going to use the sense, for example, almost the same team.
They bring a new coach, they're making the playoffs for the first time in since 2017.
Well, I think as long as we got this Liberal Party, and if they win, why are they going to feel any pressure to change?
They won't.
They're going to be exactly the same as they've always been.
Look, we had massive immigration for how many years?
They finally, finally started to do a little bit about it because it was just super negative.
Like, the whole population, I see leftists on Reddit, because I go on Reddit.
I see leftists saying they're complaining about the immigration.
And, you know, a few years ago, they were the staunch defenders of it.
So when your own base is turning against you on something, of course, they're going to back up on it.
I would expect more of the same from this party, honestly.
Do you see the polls right now?
Do you have any concern that it might be the Liberals?
No, I'm not worried about the polls.
It's all run by CBC anyway.
Look at in the States.
Showed Kamala Harris was winning and Trump won by a landslide.
So I'm not worried.
I think Pierre is going to get in.
So hopefully.
After knowing all this, you will still vote for Mark Carney?
That's where we're leaning right now.
Do you have any concern that you might win a huge majority?
I'm more optimistic and I'm more hopeful that, you know, I think the Canadians will will will hopefully.
What do you think, buddy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think Canadians will hopefully have a better sense in this election.
So I think common sense will prevail.
I want to see the debate.
I want to see what all parties have to say.
And, well, facial expressions read a lot.
I know you can mask it, but I definitely want to hear what they have to say first.
Sorry, if they're causing an issue, I'm happy to go on.
Do you guys have permission to be on this property?
It's private property.
It's owned by Canadian tire.
This is my property that I paid for.
Okay, and I'm asking why you guys are here.
Well, we are doing journalism.
We're asking the opinion of the people as other journalists.
Okay, but do you have permission to be here?
Usually you don't need the permission.
You do on private property.
You can remove that from me, please.
Don't touch my microphone.
You can remove it.
I don't know why you're so because these are my customers.
They're trying to eat.
For me personally, going the other side is a little terrifying for me.
Why?
We are talking about that.
Yeah, Polyev.
Yeah, yeah.
Again, I'm concerned with the negativity that has crossed the border.
And I'm not saying he's a Canadian Trump, but even his slogan, you know, Canada first.
It's just, I feel he's borrowing from that.
And I feel that a lot of people are following that.
And not necessarily a left or right, but that sort of divisiveness.
And, you know, I'm just, I'm a liberalist in the ways of thinking.
And I find that this, you know, the language in Canada has changed.
The negativity towards the GLBTQ community.
And it wasn't, I'm an old guy, and it wasn't always like that.
How do you reconcile keeping Bill C69 with your plans to build infrastructure in Canada?
Do you plan to repeal Bill C69?
We do not plan to repeal Bill C-69 to answer your question correctly.
Do you have any concern?
Maybe like to see that Mark Carney say, we will build new energy projects, but it's still keep Bill C69, that is the no more pipeline bill.
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
I think that there should be.
We should be tapping into our own resources instead of importing it from other countries.
Canada has so many resources, like Alberta and Saskatchewan has so much oil and gas.
We should be using that instead of importing it from Saudi or wherever the hell he gets it from.
I do not want to hear what leftists have to say about green energy or infrastructure if they're afraid of nuclear power, which is probably the most efficient green energy available.
If they don't want to do that, then they're not serious.
It's probably connected to kickbacks they get when they fund green programs that their buddies are the owners of these companies and they all kind of cash out with each other when we funnel money into windmills and such, which just take as much plastic and create as much pollution as anything else, right?
But yeah, if they were true environmentalists, they'd be advocating for nuclear, but I don't hear that from them.
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