Sheila Gunn-Reid and Chris Sims dissect Justin Trudeau’s resignation as Liberal leader while staying PM, with Parliament prorogued until March 24, 2025, and the carbon tax—hated by 80% of Canadians—scheduled to rise again on April 1. They blame Trudeau’s unpopularity on scandals (blackface, Emergencies Act), divisive policies, and $1.4B CBC subsidies, arguing his resignation is a political maneuver. Public pressure via petitions at taxpayer.com could force policy reversals before October’s election, but Alberta’s energy shortages and regulatory hurdles like GBA+ show deeper systemic failures. Trudeau’s lingering influence risks prolonging Canada’s economic and ideological divides. [Automatically generated summary]
Justin Trudeau has announced that he will be resigning eventually, whatever that means.
But what does that mean at the end of the day for his unpopular inflationary carbon tax?
I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
Justin Trudeau announced this week that he is eventually resigning as the prime minister of this country, or rather resigning as the leader of the Liberal Party.
Now, the Liberal Party is the governing party, so the leader of the Liberal Party in our parliamentary system is the prime minister.
Now, Trudeau is staying on when a normal leader would appoint an interim leader until the Liberals complete a robust leadership selection process.
So that could be months from now.
We know for sure that he has prorogued Parliament to avoid a confidence vote until the end of March.
So Canadians continue to languish.
Justin Trudeau is still prime minister, and the only thing we know for sure is that we will have a new prime minister definitely, definitely by October 2025.
Now, what does that mean for some of Justin Trudeau's more unpopular policies?
Well, we do know that some of his censorship bills and his pandemic laws died when he burned them all down by proroguing Parliament to save himself and increase his party's fortunes in the next election.
But the carbon tax remains.
Now, I have some data out of the corner of my eye that I would like to share with you.
It's from Angus Reed.
It's from back in March of 2024.
And now, I think these numbers will have changed slightly since March, because since that this data was taken, we've had a carbon tax increase.
And the inflationary crisis happening in Canada has been exacerbated and life is increasingly unaffordable.
Now, back in March, before the carbon tax hike, most Canadians currently say that the cost of living and their concerns about the cost of living should outweigh climate change concerns when making economic policy.
The criticism of the carbon tax is driven by a sense that it is ineffective at reducing Canada's greenhouse gas emissions.
And two in five Canadians say the carbon tax is making their life a lot more expensive.
And one quarter say it's increasing their cost of living a little, while only 4% By the Liberals' line, that it's saving the money, that you're getting more back in return than you pay.
Now, the Liberals, they could kill this carbon tax right now, but they're not.
In fact, there is an increase again set for April 1st.
So, joining me next is my friend from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Chris Sims, to discuss the looming carbon tax hike right on the cusp of the Liberals returning after proroguing Parliament and what the Liberals could do now to, well, I don't care if they help themselves, but to help Canadians suffering under the carbon tax.
Take a listen.
So, joining me now is my good friend and good friend of the show, Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
I thought I'd have her on because it's such a slow news week.
There's absolutely nothing to talk about happening.
Of course, that's sarcasm.
There are a lot of implications for the cost of living unfolding right in front of us.
I think one of the main reasons the Trudeau Liberals are plummeting in the polls is, of course, because of the affordability crisis exacerbated by his carbon tax.
And before we started rolling, you pointed out a very important timeline in all of this.
Let us know what that's all about.
Yeah, this is a big deal.
And so, for folks who are thinking, oh, yay, ding-dong, the witch is dead, you know, the carbon tax will be over.
No, no, no, no.
In the famous words of Rambo, nothing is over.
This is not over.
This is just starting.
So, what's fascinating about this timeline is get a load of this.
So, right now, the Liberal Party is going to be selecting a new leader, and they got to get that done at lightning speed because they're going to reconvene.
Parliament comes back on March 24th.
Okay.
Just after that, because it's been prorogued, they have to have a throne speech.
A throne speech is actually a confidence vote.
Okay.
After that, even if they, for some magical reason, didn't have a throne speech, which of course they have to to reconvene parliament, there's also a supply motion to keep the lights on, to keep money rolling for the fiscal quarter.
So, there's going to be just minefield after minefield for this brand new Liberal Party leader, whoever that person is, that first week.
So, March 24th, they reconvene.
Shortly after that, thrown speech.
Opposition says the government is going to fall.
Then they hit the hustings, they start door knocking.
April 1st, carbon tax hike.
Imagine being that newly minted Liberal Party leader and a member of parliament trying to regain your seat or keep your seat, door knocking after you just hiked that person's carbon taxes.
Good luck.
Good luck.
It's almost like a leg snare laid out by Trudeau for his successor.
I'm not even sure, however, that the Liberals will have a new leader in place in the few short months between now and when Parliament comes back or the prorogation ends, because Justin Trudeau kept saying stuff like robust leadership selection process.
And robust to me means long and drawn out.
Yeah, but this is the thing.
Okay, let's just speculate for fun because it's fun.
I love it.
Political nerds.
Okay.
So they're gone for, they're gone now.
They're prorogued, which, of course, as everybody knows, that means that parliament is now on ice.
Everything has been held.
All of the bills have died on the order paper, as they say.
In extreme circumstances, if something is super special, you can bring back a bill at its current stage in a new parliament, but they have to have all parties agreeing to that.
So that would be something special, like a private member's bill that people feel is really important, something like that.
Okay.
So parliament is proroqued.
As of right now, they're working the phones trying to get a new liberal leader.
I think it's 90 days that is within the Liberal Party constitution that they have to have for their leadership review for their leadership race.
That's three months.
They say it's coming back March 24th.
Imagine if they don't have a Liberal Party leader selected.
Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, is still the Liberal Party leader as of March 24th.
Then what?
Then there's a throne speech and then there is a confidence vote and then it falls.
And is he automatically then still going to run as leader?
Like it's pretty crazy.
So folks within the British parliamentary system that like analyzing this, of course, will point out that we don't vote for a prime minister.
We vote for a member of parliament, whoever forms the majority, that party has their leader and that person becomes prime minister.
So this, you're right.
This is not over and this is still a bit of a dog's breakfast.
But say the Liberal Party gets its act together real fast and they manage to have a newly minted person as leader in time for them to sit again.
They'll fall immediately from the sounds of it.
That's a big asterisk because we have to wait and see what the NDP actually does, not what they say they're going to do.
Then we have an election.
But the big roadblock at the end of this thing that they're driving right into is a carbon tax hike.
And the carbon tax is one of the reasons why they're at the bottom of the polls.
As you said before, we started rolling, and I've put it in our op-ed that should be coming out soon in the sun.
It's their millstone.
It's the millstone hanging around the necks of all of these candidates.
So they should cut it off this week.
Like when they have their little emergency cluster meetings and stuff, oh my God, what are you going to do?
They should announce they're scrapping the carbon tax.
The liberals should.
Now, you mentioned something.
I just want to correct you on this.
You said, you know, we vote for an MP and that MP, if he is the leader of the party, will become the prime minister.
But that is not always the case.
We saw a scenario exactly this in Alberta with Jim Prentiss.
He was selected to be the leader of the PC party and thus the premier of Alberta, but he at the time did not have a seat.
And so we could be faced with a situation where we have a prime minister of this country who is not a sitting MP.
And, you know, some of the frontrunners being touted by the mainstream media, like Mark Carney and Christy Clark, neither one of them are sitting MPs.
Wouldn't that be crazy?
Yep.
So very like, that is a good point.
So in the interim, so what you're saying is before an election.
Yep.
So they select their leader within their own party.
That person, yeah, would automatically become prime minister.
Isn't that wild?
So in that rare instance, you're right.
If there's somebody who is currently does not have a seat, that person does become that, which is kind of fascinating.
Now, it would be expected and or hoped that they would then capture a seat, win a seat in the next election, but what an absolute mess.
What an absolute mess.
And good luck finding a safe liberal seat these days.
You have a tough time finding one in Toronto at this point.
Keep that in mind, folks.
That was not on like the edges.
Am I allowed to say fringe on this show?
I'm not sure.
Yeah, I find it offensive.
Just swear.
It was not on the fringy edges of Toronto.
That was in like the heart of Toronto.
That bright red dot that was always there that is no longer there.
So yeah, they're in deep trouble.
And I have got to stress a huge reason why.
It's not just because of Trudeau, as much as people don't like Trudeau.
It's what they did.
It's the fact that people can't afford jack anymore.
And one of the main reasons why they can't afford stuff is because of stupid things like the carbon tax, which punishes every single part of your life, from heating your home to driving to work to growing food, buying food, you name it.
And I still can't believe, frankly, they haven't had an announcement.
Like if I were members of parliament within the Liberal Party, I'd be gathering together some of the pointy heads in the party and saying, we're having a press conference like today, saying we're getting rid of the carbon tax.
Now, that's one of the reasons I think the liberals are sort of looking outside the party for a new leader is because everybody is just so tainted by Trudeau and their defense of the carbon tax to some like I see that they're sort of stuck in the same conundrum that Kamala Harris was stuck in.
How do you position yourself as a person to fix this mess when you are the person who got everybody into this mess, either by running cover for Justin Trudeau or introducing many of Justin Trudeau's flagship policies, Freeland?
So, you know, they're looking from outside of the party for maybe for somebody with less political baggage, but their two main names that they're throwing out to us are Mark Carney, Carbon Tax Carney, and Christy Clark, who I think, if you roll back Christy Clark's public statements, she is one of the reasons we have a national carbon tax.
Because when she was the premier of BC, she was saying, look at the carbon tax in BC.
It's working.
It's revenue neutral.
We're strong supporters of this nationwide.
So how do you get around that?
How do you bring forward two outside the party carbon tax supporters to sort of wash away the carbon tax support within the party?
I think they've really screwed themselves here.
It's just delicious.
So this is what I love about live shows.
So did Christy Clark make a statement against a carbon tax recently?
You said you're despite her public statement.
No, no, no.
I mean, what I mean is she has publicly stated that she is in support of the carbon tax.
But now she's sort of being polished by, oh, maybe we'll have a new female leader of the liberals.
But how do you get around the fact that she was pushing a carbon tax, which is immensely unpopular nationally?
Oh, big time.
Okay.
So for folks who don't know, I'm from BC.
Yeah.
So I was born and raised there and I worked there as a taxpayers federation director there as well.
So Christy Clark is literally a carbon tax cheerleader.
She's always have one.
Yes, I think.
Yes, big time.
So like that is the headline in the CBC like article from I think 2016.
So this was not a billion years ago.
It was just as she was on her way out.
So the NDP, for folks who don't remember, the provincial NDP in British Columbia unseated the then called BC Liberal government in 2017.
Okay.
There was this whole foo-farah about a minority, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, the BC Liberals lost their grip on power in 2017.
Carbon Tax Controversies00:06:17
I will point out directly that carbon tax was not revenue neutral.
That BC Liberal government can say until it's blue in the face that it was revenue neutral.
It was not.
If we have time, the original BC Liberal premier who started the carbon tax was then Gordon Campbell.
To be fair, when they did introduce the first carbon tax the first time, they did do a corresponding income tax cut.
So mathematically and on paper, one could argue that was revenue neutral.
Fair.
It didn't take them long though, Sheila, because government's going to government.
They started playing with the books and we caught them playing with the books.
So what they were doing, including under the government of then BC Premier Christy Clark, was this.
They would take the revenue from the carbon tax and they would place it in the budget on one paper, one sheet.
They would list the revenue, whatever it was, for an argument's sake, say it was $1 billion.
Okay.
Then they started putting a whole bunch of pre-existing and unrelated and in some cases old tax credits into that column, like shoving it onto that sheet to take away the revenue, making it balance out to zero.
Like we're talking film tax credit, converting farm property to school tax credit, kids fitness tax credit.
Like this was not, you know, in order to invent dilithium crystal charging machines or to give people, you know, hydrogen powered vehicles or something.
No, no, no, no.
It had nothing to do with emissions, nothing to do with fuel or the environment.
They were taking old tax credits and stuffing them into the revenue column for years and making it balance out to zero.
So much so, you know, when you come into something new and you ask stupid questions, that's a good place to be because that was the first budget I was covering for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
I noticed this immediately in their books.
I went to the deputies.
So don't go to the politicians.
You go to the finance bureaucrats.
And he looked at me dead in the face during lockup.
He said, yeah, this has always just been an accounting exercise.
So that was not the case.
And keep in mind also, when they first hatched the carbon tax in BC, they told us that it was going to stop at $30 a ton, that it was actually going to be revenue neutral, that it would trigger a plethora of affordable alternative energies, and that it would make emissions go down, that it would make them meet their targets.
Today, none of that is true.
And you're right, you're bang on because British Columbia's carbon taxes, there's two of them, have been used as a template for the rest of Canada.
Trudeau directly went to British Columbia.
He used the BC carbon tax as a template.
And that's frankly where you see Christy Clark at the time, the premier, being a cheerleader for a carbon tax, talking directly into Trudeau's ear about this.
So unless she has come forward recently, and I don't know, where she has disavowed her previous huge support for the carbon tax, that's the reality on the ground in BC.
Yeah.
I mean, it didn't do the one thing that it was designed to do, and that was reduce emissions.
If you believe that that's what it was designed to do, it just wasn't some revenue-raising scam as these things tend to be.
And Mark Carney, I mean, carbon tax Carney.
In his spare time, he works for the United Nations to de-bank and de-insure energy projects.
Do you think that the no pipelines bill and all the GBA plus nonsense shoehorned into our energy approvals process will disappear with somebody like Mark Carney in charge?
I think it's just going to get worse.
It'll be the prohibition by regulation and bureaucratic nonsense on any energy project going forward while our American friends are doing drill, baby, drill.
Oh, gosh, you imagine and just juxtaposing that with the incoming Trump administration.
I know.
Every now and then, just to amuse myself, I imagine trying to do a pitch meeting with Trump and trying to sell him on a carbon tax.
Can you imagine?
I mean, let's be real.
If Barack Obama and Joe Biden didn't do a carbon tax, like, what are you smoking?
The idea that you would be able to convince Donald Trump, the U.S. President Donald Trump, to go for a carbon tax.
So to your point, there's going to have to be some member of parliament who's so far in the back benches that they can try to say, listen, I was dragged along.
I tried my best.
I felt really bad for my constituents.
But this guy, our former leader, was just attached to this thing.
And I don't know, Stefan Guibo was bullying me or so.
Who knows, right?
And have to come clean and say, but now I've changed.
I've seen the light.
I'm against the carbon tax.
Clearly, like learning your lesson.
Right.
Because they're going to take a drubbing in the polls over this, largely over this issue.
Or it's going to have to be somebody that we don't know yet.
It's going to have to be some businessy person out of Toronto who's never said anything publicly about a carbon tax and comes out vociferously against it.
Like I just can't see the Liberal Party hanging on to this topic for a minute later.
I just, I don't know how they jettison it after this was just their thing since 2015.
I mean, remember Catherine McKenna just celebrating the like the Canadian government signing on to the Paris Accord?
It was like their flagship thing.
So I don't know how nine years later they can turn around and say, you know what, that was a terrible idea.
All that begging and pleading you guys did that we didn't listen to, we're listening to you now.
It'll just seem so insincere.
And I think that's reflecting at the polls.
I want to change real quick.
I'll just appeal to them this way.
New Taxes on Electric Vehicles00:09:33
Even if you know you're going down, it's never too late to do the right thing for people.
Right.
It isn't.
I believe in redemption.
The redemption is there.
All they have to do is reach out and grab it.
I just think that nobody will.
I just, that's where I'm at with these guys.
They could save people money if they killed it right now, which they could, because it's just a regulatory thing because it goes up automatically on April 1st.
They could kill it today and save people money instantly, even if they're going to lose the election.
Because that would be the right thing to do.
So we'll see.
I'm not holding my breath, but I would really love to see that happen.
As I said yesterday on X, I firmly believe that Justin Trudeau has a congenital inability to do the right thing, given how he resigned and he still didn't even do that.
Sorry, resigned.
You guys were one of the only ones that was pointing this out, saying, uh, wait, he's not gone.
Intends to resign.
And he's waiting until after the new leader is picked.
So that could, that could be three months.
Like, that's, that's a long time.
Yeah.
And sacrificing the welfare of Canadians to bolster the fortunes of the Liberal Party, to make sure that they are as close to election ready as they can be, given the chaos unfolding in the Liberal Party, while Canadians wait and wait and wait and pay.
We're the ones paying the bills and keeping the lights on.
Like all the MPs, MPs make backbenchers make $200,000 per year.
Cabinet ministers make $300,000 per year.
Pardon me?
While not working right now.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're still getting paid.
Yeah.
And cabinet ministers are still cabinet ministers.
You know, if aliens invaded, we would need like the foreign affairs minister to go talk to them.
So she's still the foreign affairs minister.
Party, I don't know if we want that.
Let's roll out Premier Smith again.
Thank goodness she's acting as our foreign affairs minister.
I don't want Melanie Joli negotiating with aliens.
I don't.
Premier Smith is actually into as an aside, she's into sci-fi.
She's like super into it.
So she could totally talk to them.
She probably has a universal translator.
I bet that she has given this some thought.
Now, just quickly changing lanes to Premier Smith and Alberta, because much of your role is focused on Alberta.
A couple of new taxes in Alberta at the beginning of the year, a vape tax.
And then they've raised the registration costs for electric vehicles.
Now, normally, and I think I'm doing this for the wrong reasons.
Normally, I'm against tax increases, fundamentally speaking.
But those electric cars are using the roads I pay for with my gas tax.
And I don't think that's right.
Right.
So, as you said, I'm with the Taxpayers Federation, right?
So I am allergic to tax increases and new taxes.
So I have hives even saying these things.
Right, exactly.
I grind my teeth.
There's, but it's so easy to increase a tax on something like vaping because it's essentially a sin tax.
Right.
In the same way that you have increased tobacco taxes.
And so it's hard to defend.
Frankly, you know, government should be small enough to drown in a teacup and it should do less of everything.
So we shouldn't have these tax increases to pay for things.
That said, the bigger one I thought was the electric vehicle tax, which I found interesting.
So to your point, exactly.
It's a taxation, but it's a form through registration and it's $200 per year.
Now, their thinking is this, exactly to your point.
Well, you're not paying the provincial fuel tax, which is used to maintain the roads.
And you're also apparently electric vehicles are heavier than conventional vehicles, go figure.
And so therefore, the thinking is they'd have more wear and tear on the road over time.
What I found really interesting is that when they made this announcement, they did so at last year's budget in February in Edmonton.
And it was weird because right there in the budget language, they said, yeah, we're creating this or imposing this electric vehicle fee tax thing because you don't pay fuel taxes to maintain the roads.
Although we do not use the provincial fuel tax to maintain the roads in Alberta.
I thought that was the weirdest thing.
And I've never figured out why they included that in there.
Yeah.
Is it because they were trying to say that it isn't automatically dedicated in a fund for it or they pay more in road taxes than they take in in the fuel?
Like it was, it was something.
So, or was it just a dig?
To me, it kind of felt like it was a bit of just a dig at EV owners saying, yeah, we don't make the regular car drivers pay through their taxes to maintain the roads, but we're going to make you pay for it anyway.
Deal with it.
Is kind of what I gathered from that, but I could be misinterpreting.
But yeah, those are the two main new taxes here in Alberta.
Now, with regard to the electric vehicles, I don't even care if they have to pay increased registration.
I would prefer if we cut the subsidies to electric vehicles and then I don't care about the $200 getting them on the other side.
Same.
Same.
So cut the subsidies, which is just costing us a billion dollars.
It's a crazy amount of money that taxpayers are subsidizing.
I will point out, like, mega international corporations.
Right.
You are not helping your.
Yeah.
You are going to go broke afterwards.
You are not helping your local ice cream shop here.
No, you are giving money to Volkswagen and Ford and a whole bunch of other major international vehicles.
And it's not just like millions, it's billions.
It's billions.
And they're going to go broke.
Or they hire temporary foreign workers from another country.
They don't even hire Canadians.
And so we've got this three-headed gross monster here.
We've got the taxpayers' money going to these mega corporations.
We have got a ban coming up on normal cars.
So the Trudeau government, in lost in all the chaos of the carbon tax and stuff, the Trudeau government is banning the sale of new elect new gasoline and diesel-powered cars.
So your normal cars, new ones are going to be banned for sale like real soon, unless the government changes and unless the new government decides to repeal that ban.
So that's the second one.
The third one drives me crazy.
We don't have the energy to charge these vehicles.
So even if in my happiest Star Trek moment, everybody got an electric vehicle like tomorrow.
It's a dilithium crystal vehicle right out there and you have to charge it using electricity.
Say it was for free.
Where's the energy coming from to plug it in?
Like we don't have it.
Like we get warnings every winter, don't use your hair dryer in the morning because we're going to have a blackout.
Like we have unenergy right now.
And I sat down and did the math.
If everyone in Canada, if their vehicles were switched by a fairy godmother to electric tonight, we would need 14 new can-do nuclear reactors.
Not those little itty bitty ones that Scott Mo is talking about.
No, no.
The big honkers at Darlington Nuclear in Ontario, the ones they're not building anymore, the ones that take 10 years and like $10 billion, we'd need 14 of them.
So yeah, that's just, sorry, you've got me on my bug of there.
No, I completely agree with you.
And I'm glad you pointed out that Alberta, with 800 years of clean burning coal under our feet and all the natural gas that we could ever ask for, we don't have enough energy to run our furnaces when it gets to minus 40.
And the reason for that is not just that they accelerated the coal phase out under the NDP, but regulatory uncertainty caused by an NDP government in Alberta and a liberal government in Ottawa meant that either the retrofitting of the old plants just didn't happen or didn't happen fast enough and new natural gas plants weren't built.
Nobody was investing because when you have to worry about how it's going to make the ladies feel, because there's a GBA analysis plus, gender-based analysis plus, put on energy approvals, the companies are like, no, thanks, we'll just go to North Dakota.
Thank you very much.
And here we are energy starved in Alberta.
In Alberta.
It was one of the craziest things I learned moving here.
So yeah, that's another thing.
If Pierre Polyov becomes prime minister, that's the other thing on his to-do list to try to get done before launch on day one is to put an end to this nonsense.
Because the very idea that Alberta, we're supposed to be the energy patch here in Canada, is lacking energy for our basic functions.
Okay.
It's crazy.
Like that has got to be fixed.
Bill C63 Dies On Order Paper00:04:02
Now, lost in all the bad news and fake resignation resignations happening over the last couple of days is that bill C63 died on the order paper, so that's just Intrudeau's censorship bill that would regulate what we can say and do on the internet.
And I know uh, you speak to this issue um, as a former journalist, but as uh, head of the Alberta Taxpayers Federation, and part of what you do is try to hold the government to account when the government is censoring citizens under the auspices of safety.
Uh, that makes accountability all but impossible.
Um, so that's good news, but the online news act remains, the streaming act remains, and so we still have government controlling not just the internet but funding journalists and contaminating and polluting their coverage.
Yeah, big time.
I've described it before as a two-sided vice where we've got government money, taxpayers money, government funding of journalism and, to your point exactly, not just CBC, which is 1.4 billion, and the Truth government, at the last second, announced they wanted to increase that to two billion per year, by the way, for the CBC before they were out of here.
Um, so we've got funding of the CBC plus tons of the mainstream media now on government payroll to the tune of when you work it out.
Between all the tax credits and the direct funding and stuff, it's close to thirty thousand dollars per employee in a media company.
It's unbelievable.
So there's the funding on the one side of the vice and, exactly right Sheila, we've got the censorship on the other side of the vice.
So we've got C11, we've got the Online News Act, we've got them trying to regulate even podcasts and stuff through C11 now, which is crazy, going after podcast providers for content, etc.
And you're right though, we should take a little win there, a victory with bill C63, because that was the stuff where they were tacking it on with harms right.
So i'll I won't be graphic, but this government, for reasons known only to them, for some reason took a bill that was supposed to prevent sexual abuse of children and the sharing of images of child sexual abuse on the internet.
I don't use the other word because it's disgusting.
So they took laws about that, which every decent person would should, would support strengthening like I don't know anyone that would know like yeah, throw the book at them forever, that's fine.
Like, put them under the Party Bill Passes under the jail forever.
Exactly yeah, under the jail.
Like that, put them down there.
So they took that and they tacked on this like online speech and what people would consider to be harmful speech.
And then we had all this crazy situation of the idea of having, like a, a human rights tribunal type person, some bureaucrat deciding whether somebody has to go on house arrest yeah, for something they've said that somebody else finds anonymously offensive like it Was wild.
Right.
And so and future crimes.
You could go under house arrest for somebody complaining that you would cause them detestation somewhere down the road for something you hadn't quite said yet.
Yeah.
Call Tom Cruise.
We're in minority report.
It's awful.
We were dealing with future crime and also past past crime.
Yes.
So if you made a tweet, you know, 15 years ago that somebody now decides anonymously, again, I will point out.
Yep.
And for, didn't they have a didn't they have a chance of winning damages too?
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
So imagine this, folks.
Money's anonymous.
You have a chance of cashing in and you get to complain to some bureaucrat and try to nail somebody you don't like over and over and over again in Canada.
That's what Bill C63 had in it.
Conservatives and Chattering Classes00:14:41
It was wild.
So yeah, you're right.
We should take a W on that, as the kids say, because it's gone.
And the Conservatives have promised, boy, they have a long laundry list.
They've promised to just completely get rid of all of that.
So.
Yeah, I think the first two years of a conservative government is going to be nothing but repealing and commissions, investigations and inquiries.
We're going to see like Gomery-style inquiries, I think, for the first couple of years, especially with stuff like the Green Slush Fund.
When I was a little kid, I'm misremembering because it was in the 80s and I was like a small child.
But there was a moment, I think it was the Lou Ferrigno Hercules movie, I think.
It's where he diverts the river and it rushes through the stables.
It's going to look like that.
Yeah.
So it's going to look like that for the first year.
They've got so much to do.
Oh, I hope it sweeps all the nonsense out to sea.
Similarly.
Chris, how do people find the work that you're doing?
And how do they get involved in the very important accountability work that the Canadian Taxpayers Federation does for us the Canadian?
Exactly.
So I really have to hammer this point home.
It's not over.
Like, I can't stress this enough.
As an observer of politics my entire life, and I've been in the arena for 25 years, now is the time.
Like we've got walking wounded members of parliament.
We've got politicians who are scared they're not going to get re-elected.
If you want them committing to things to change things, do it right now.
Email them now.
Phone them now.
Say, if you think I'm going to pay one more nickel of your carbon tax, like you are dreaming in Technicolor, you've got to push them now because this is when they reform their new platforms and make their new commitments.
So if you want to go to our website, taxpayer.com, click on the petitions page, and there's tons of petitions there.
So if you want to scrap the carbon tax, you want to defund the CBC, which PALIAV has also promised to do, if you want to reverse the firearms confiscation, big time, okay?
Reverse the censorship laws, all that stuff is in there.
Sign up, and that automatically makes you part of our standing army.
And the next time I'm sending you out a call to action, which I'm literally doing today, saying everybody email your liberal MP and tell them to scrap the carbon tax this morning, then you're on that army list and you're part of the thousands of people who flood their inboxes.
And trust me, it makes a huge difference.
That sort of action played a huge role in making sure the Conservative Party woke up to its senses and re-reversed itself on the carbon tax.
Remember for a little while, there was like a phase where they were like wanting solar blenders and carbon taxes?
Yeah.
So that action played a key role in making that happen, making that change happen.
So go to taxpayer.com, sign the petition.
It's for free.
And you're automatically on our army list and you'll get the call to action.
You know, I'm glad you mentioned that this is not just about the liberals.
This is also about keeping the conservatives conservative.
Ralph Klein was really good at this.
He would say, Show me the parade that's marching and I'll jump in front of it and lead it.
So, what the Taxpayers Federation does, and I think we do this here at Rebel News, is we get the parade going.
We show the decision makers or the wannabe decision makers right now what the people care about.
So, this is your ability to send a message to these people in between elections that these are the issues that Canadians really care about and they better damn well do something about it.
To your point, and this is the beautiful part: Polyev gets it.
Oh, yeah.
And he said so on, he said so in his op-ed, which he keeps sharing, by the way, that he put in the National Post.
And he just said it to Dr. Jordan Peterson.
He basically said, paraphrasing, I can't do this by myself.
If you guys want this done, this done, this done, you got to mobilize your people.
Make sure your factory workers, your corporations, your unions, your school boards, all of these groups, your moms' groups, they need to tell me what they want me to do.
And they need to push back when I'm running into cobwebs and regulations.
So there's going to be, hey, imagine if he becomes prime minister and he announces he's defunding the CBC, like the sky is going to fall.
All of the chattering classes are going to freak out.
All of academia is going to freak out.
And all of us who want them to defund the CBC, it's up to us then to push back on them.
We got to be louder.
Exactly.
Do it more.
Be faster.
So to your point, exactly, Polyev has said directly that he wants standing armies on these issues.
It doesn't even need to be with the Taxpayers Federation.
It can be with Rebel.
It can be with whatever group that is mustering the posse of the parade.
Make sure you guys stay in the arena.
It is not over on election day if and when that ever happens.
Right.
And, you know, it is so important to keep conservatives conservative.
Hold them accountable to the promises that they make to the people.
I think we did that with Jason Kenney.
We will do that with Danielle Smith.
When she wanders into crazy country, we'll do our best to bring her back.
I know you have been critical of her when she's not bringing in tax cuts enough.
And now she is.
So it's important.
These politicians will listen to you if you're loud enough.
And part of being loud enough is the petition process at the Taxpayers Federation, but also over here at Rebel News.
Yeah, for sure.
And it's one of those human nature things, right?
They see that you're engaged.
Yes.
If you're just some person they've never heard of before, you're less inclined to listen to that person, no matter what political ideology you have.
But if you're showing up at the meetings, if you're bringing the bake sale cookies and stuff and like you're talking to them, like that's a relationship you're building there.
And that's how you get change done.
So yeah, thank you so much for highlighting that.
It's a huge factor.
I really don't want people to think if and when the election happens and if and when the government changes that it's tools down.
No, no, no, no.
Like the rebuild starts that day and it's up to us to make sure it happens.
Chris, what are you up to next?
I know you've got something coming.
Yes.
Tell us what's up next for you.
So the next thing should be an editorial that should pop into the Toronto Sun newspaper chain.
I'm hoping very soon within the next 24 hours.
And this is critical.
Again, the liberals are burned right now.
Those MPs are freaking out.
We could get rid of the carbon tax this week.
This week.
The conservatives don't need it.
They've got an entire army of caddies pulling clubs behind them at this golf course that they can beat, you know, the liberals with.
They don't need the carbon tax club.
They've got a billion other things that they can also run on.
But just imagine if we could get this thing gone this week, we'd be instantly saving people money.
So that is my laser focus right now.
Well, I'm glad.
I'm glad for it, especially as Alberta is in the middle of a cold snap.
Chris, it is.
Thanks so much for coming on the show.
Thanks so much for always taking the time to advocate on behalf of just the regular people, the forgotten people.
As you say, the politicians like to listen to the chattering classes.
And really, the chattering classes don't get them elected.
It's us.
As always, I turn over the last segment of the show to you because without you, there is no Rebel News.
It's my little way of thanking you because we'll never take a penny from Justin Trudeau.
We rely on your support to keep going here.
And you really did help us stay fighting and keep going during a time of intense government censorship that still remains and it will remain until the conservatives root it out out of our government.
Now, you can send me your questions, comments, story ideas, or viewer feedback about the show today by writing me an email.
Send it to Sheila at RebelNews.com.
Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know why you're writing to me.
But also, if you are finding clips of the show or any of the work that I do here at Rebel News on the censorship platform of YouTube or on Rumble, leave a comment.
Sometimes I go looking over there to see what the people are saying.
Now, today's viewer feedback comes to us by way of the YouTube comments on a live stream that we did on Monday.
It was a live stream hosted by myself and initially the big boss, Ezra Levant, although he had to poke off the show and do some outside media appearances because the Americans are really looking to us here at Rebel News to break down what Trudeau is really doing with his resignation, which is not really a resignation at all, and to explain a little bit about how our parliamentary system really works.
So cut through the BS and the jargon to show that it is really just the most Trudeau thing Trudeau has ever done.
The man cannot even resign properly without being some sort of malignant narcissist.
Anyway, on that note, let's get to the YouTube comments.
No dig BK Mish, right?
Thank you, Rebel News.
I'm certain that your journalism played a huge part in Justin finally admitting defeat and stepping down.
Well done.
I hope I never have to listen to his voice again.
Thank you for making his exit speech bearable.
What did I say on that live stream?
I said his neo-feminist emoting felt like someone was licking the inside of my ear.
It was just gross.
But we are going to have to hear a lot more from Justin Trudeau over the next little bit because he's still prime minister and there's no timeline for him to no longer be prime minister.
I mean, as Chris explained, if they don't have a leader in place and the government falls on a confidence vote by the end of March 2025, he could be the leader of the party going into the next election.
So we are not even close to being done with him.
I don't know if our journalism had a lot to do with Justin Trudeau resigning.
I'm flattered that you think that it did.
I think it was Justin Trudeau's series of scandals and our honest reporting on those series of scandals versus the varnished version that you get from the mainstream media that may have moved the needle for a lot of people.
And a lot of my journalism on this stuff is simply just covering committee testimony or commission testimony, the Public Order Emergency Commission on Justin Trudeau's illegal invocation of the Emergencies Act or the Foreign Interference Commission, where you are just reporting verbatim what is being said at these things.
And it really shows you how selective the mainstream media is in their coverage of the same topic.
They are sitting there watching the same committee hearings.
I do.
Their coverage looks a heck of a lot different.
Barbara Corbett, ZE3MY on Trudeau's tongue-licking resignation, resignation speech.
She says, he is heartbroken because his luxurious world travel, luxury taxpayer-funded groceries, booze and accommodations, his exorbitant salary and perks for doing nothing, his security detail, non-stop photo ops, and attention will all be grinding to a halt this year.
Reality is going to hit him hard.
I'm not sure.
I mean, his chances of becoming a World Economic Forum darling or a United Nations darling have plummeted in the last year.
I think if he had extracted himself from this earlier, before he hit rock bottom in the polls, and before the rest of the world sort of realized what a floppish idiot Justin Trudeau is, I think he could have maintained those perks by joining a globalist organization.
But I think now he's even so unpopular and so disrespected that his ability to move on to those opportunities is completely gone.
However, we know he comes from wealth and he's got wealthy friends.
Let's see if his wealthy friends have abandoned him.
I'd like to think that they have, but who knows?
You know, Epstein had friends right to the end, too.
All right, one more.
Canadian citizen 4700 writes, he never takes responsibility for his own scandals, dividing the nation, breaking Canadians' trust in government or his overspending.
He just doesn't get it, shielded by his enablers, fluffers, and the media.
Yeah, every time that he did something wrong, it was a learning opportunity for all of us.
Like, I never did blackface.
I never groped any journalists in British Columbia.
He did that.
I don't have to learn how not to do that.
He did.
But when he did something wrong, it was our collective shame.
And when he did something right, it was his victory and his victory alone.
Just Screwing Us00:00:26
I can't wait.
I can't wait till our National Nightmare is over.
But we're going to have to wait because, as I said, Justin Trudeau cannot even resign like a normal person.
Just screwing us right to the bitter end.
Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.