Ezra Levant’s Rebel News exposed Carleton University hiring Hassan Diab, a 1980 French-convicted terrorist (life sentence for bombing a synagogue) whose "terrorist diary" site appears in his Social Justice in Action course. During protests, Diab’s supporters dismissed his guilt, citing Canadian legal uncertainty, while a Russian student compared his presence to Putin’s Russia. Levant also detailed a pro-Israel rally where journalist Alexa Lavoie was assaulted by a pro-Hamas activist—police intervened only after pressure—revealing gaps in campus security and border enforcement, like unmonitored U.S.-Canada crossings. Canada’s open-border policies risk straining resources with potential undocumented surges, raising concerns about extremism and lawful consequences. [Automatically generated summary]
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We were just going to roll our billboard truck through there, but holy moly, was that a magnet for people who wanted to give me a piece of their mind or support us?
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It was quite a day, and we got it all on tape.
Boy, our campus is tough places for diversity of thought.
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Tonight, why is a convicted terrorist teaching at Ottawa's Carleton University?
It's November 20th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious thug.
It's a frosty morning and the students of Carleton University are filing in and And I'm astonished to learn that one of the professors at Carleton is named Hassan Diab.
That's not astonishing in itself until you know who he is.
He was convicted by a French court of terrorism.
He was convicted of blowing up a Jewish synagogue in the heart of France.
The first major jihadist terrorist attack in France that really set in motion decades of anti-Semitic terror.
It was in 1980, the Copernic Synagogue.
300 Jews were inside.
And according to a French court who convicted him, Hassan Diab was the bomber.
He set a bomb on a timer, timed for when the Jewish synagogue would finish its Friday night services and the Jews would come out onto the street.
It was time for maximum carnage.
Luckily, the proceedings inside the synagogue were running late.
And when the bomb blew up, four people, not 300, were killed.
Obviously, a horrendous murder and tragedy for those four who were killed and the dozens who were injured.
It could have been far worse.
Now, what's interesting is France in 1980 is a lot different from France in 2024.
In 1980, it had yet to be colonized by jihadist migrants the way it is now.
There was tremendous sympathy for the Jews.
Major labor unions stood in solidarity with the Jews.
It was considered a tremendous failure on the part of the government and in part, some people say, caused the replacement of the government as hundreds of thousands of Jews and those sympathetic to the victims of this bombing voted for the incoming French president.
That's politics, but the main thing is who did it?
Well, according to French authorities, it's that man, Hassan Diab, who incredibly and bizarrely came to Canada and got a job as a sociology professor at one of Canada's wokest universities.
Well, it wasn't woke back then, but it certainly is now.
When we arrived on campus today, we saw not just the rainbow crosswalk, but I don't even know all the symbols, so what they stand for these days.
There's about 20 different letters in the LGBT2QSL plus rainbow.
That's the kind of campus this is.
It's a place where, if you're triggered by microaggressions, you can go to your safe space where pronouns are de rigueur.
Everything to coddle young minds and keep them safe from criticism or ideas they don't like.
Oh, right.
And except they have a convicted terrorist working here.
Just that little microaggression.
Imagine being a Jewish student in a class with this terrorist as the teacher.
I doubt a Jew would sign up to be taught by a murderer of Jews, but he's here on the campus.
And what's so fascinating is this campus in so many ways is funded by the Jews that Hassan Diab set out to kill.
I'm standing right in front of the Azraeli Pavilion.
The name Azraeli is a famous Jewish architect, builder, developer, and philanthropist who has given countless millions of dollars to Carlton.
The actual building in which Diab is a professor is the Labe Building, L-O-E-B, named after Moses Labe and his descendants who were early migrants to Canada, set up the famous Loeb's grocery stores, have given millions of dollars to Carlton.
It must make that terrorist smile wryly every day to know that he is living a luxurious life at taxpayers' expense in a building paid for by Jews.
Indeed, he's colonized this university.
I want to read from my phone a little bit about the course description of Hassan Diab because he actually teaches social justice in action.
That's the actual name of the course he teaches a terrorist.
It's called, it's in the Department of Sociology and Anthropology, Fall of 2024, Social Justice in Action.
Dr. Hassan Diab.
You better call the terrorist doctor or he'll correct your pronouns.
It starts with a diversity statement.
In this course, you are expected to learn from your texts, your teacher, and from one another.
This requires striving towards understanding each other, but it does not imply striving towards finding agreement.
Our class will be racially, religiously, politically, culturally, generationally, and economically diverse.
Sure, it will.
Just if there's any Jews, they should be careful that they don't get offed by this guy.
Our class, we will be of different gender identifications and sexual orientations, and our lived experiences and reactions to the course material will reflect this diversity.
This is a convicted Jew killer.
I'll skip ahead because what's so incredible is that the course itself is not really a course about scholarship.
It's this terrorist diary.
It's him pleading his case for why he shouldn't have to go back to France, why he shouldn't be extradited to face justice there.
The official readings include his homemade website, justiceforhassan diab.org.
You have to visit that website and familiarize yourself with the case study for this course.
He's literally turned his terrorism into a course.
Now, there's an irony there calling the website Justice for Diab because justice was done.
A French court heard the case.
Diab refused to attend.
It was a conviction in absentia with the evidence being put before the court.
There was justice for Diab.
These are real cesspool dwellers.
What's your name?
My name's Fuck You.
Well, hey, come back here, coward.
Hey, Why would you say that?
I just think you're such a provocateur.
Well, what am I provoking today?
You tell me.
Why would you say it if you don't even know what you're talking about?
I do know what I'm talking about.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about you coming up to me and swearing at me out of nowhere.
And you're a coward.
You won't even use your own name to do it.
No, well, why would I do that?
Because you're ashamed of yourself.
You know your conduct is unbecoming.
Quite the psychoanalysis of you, but...
Why wouldn't you say your name?
I mean, are you ashamed of yourself?
No, I'm not ashamed.
I'm not ashamed.
My name's Ezra LeVance.
Quite frankly, I don't think my reaction was the best, but I think I was...
Do you want to apologize and start again?
I am sorry for telling you to fuck off.
Okay, thank you.
I accept your apology.
Okay.
It was too much, but I do think that you're just a provocateur.
You're trying to get that reaction.
I actually do feel bad that I was goaded in.
I didn't go you at all.
You came up to me.
Your silly little van.
What's silly about it?
He's a convicted terrorist.
Did you even read the van?
I did see the van.
calls him a bomber I think that was convicted that by a French court Yeah, and I think, you know, our courts have thrown all kinds of questions around the process around that.
Our courts have not heard the matter of that court's conviction.
You know, I'm not as up on it as I should be, but I think you're just trying to poke a bear there, and you did with me, so you got one on that.
I just hope he doesn't bomb this place, and I hope he doesn't bomb you.
He's worked here for how many years, and he hasn't bombed anything.
He's bombed a synagogue in France, according to the French courts.
Yeah, and it's a whole disputed set of facts.
He didn't dispute it.
He didn't even go.
My understanding is that he's still fighting that trial.
He refused to fight.
He refused to go then.
At one point, I believe there was a judicial authority that threw it out on its merits.
It didn't have the merits.
And then it had to kind of come back in.
My understanding is quite politicized.
My understanding is that it's quite gray.
It's not gray at all.
How would a Jew feel in a course taught by a convicted terrorist who bombed a Jewish synagogue and killed four people?
Who's accused of doing all that?
Who's convicted of it?
You know, I don't, it could be uncomfortable.
Who cares about it?
It could be uncomfortable.
All right.
Well, at least I have that concession from you.
Have a great day.
Well, I do accept his apology.
Let's go back and finish our monologue.
Well, I'm back at the truck.
That was an interesting interaction.
He said that this truck is provocative.
I suppose it is, and that we're calling, we're seeking to provoke an outcome to have the convicted terrorists fired.
So I suppose that's provocative?
From my point of view, it's more provocative to be a university using taxpayers' dollars to pay for a convicted terrorist to say, I'm not guilty when a court found that he's guilty.
That gentleman knew a few of the facts, and I'll be honest, I haven't read the full conviction myself.
But for him to come up to me, swear at me, and run off without giving me his name, I thought was a little bit cowardly.
And you know what?
I think he realized it was, and he apologized.
I actually do accept his apology.
And we had a bit of a banter.
He was wise enough to concede that it might be a little uncomfortable to be a Jew in a class where a fella is praising his life's work as a social justice activist as a convicted terrorist.
You know, it's just so out of place.
I showed you the Rainbow Crosswalk.
They're so tolerant here.
Read to you the diversity statement from Hassan Diab's own course, that we have to be gentle with each other and we have to respect each other.
This is a convicted murderer.
Now, if this guy wants to appeal his ruling, let him go and appeal it.
He's resisted extradition to France under it, so he's not seeking justice, he's seeking to avoid justice.
I don't know if there would be an appeal.
I don't know if he would succeed in an appeal.
I know this.
He refuses to go to France to face justice and he's fighting every out with every ounce to avoid that deportation.
And in the meantime, the city of Ottawa, the University OF Carleton, the donors and the students have to live with a convicted synagogue bomber teaching here.
That just shows you how far things have moved in this country.
I told you a little bit of what it was like in France in 1980 when this terror attack happened and the country was much more sympathetic to Jews.
I suppose it had only been 35 years since the end of the Holocaust and and people were still alive to the horrors of Anti-Semitic violence and they couldn't believe it had come back to France, which had one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe, and it was just massacred by the Nazis.
Hey, come here coward coward, come here, coward.
What's your name?
Coward, what's your name?
What's your name?
Get out of my face, ass hat.
What's your name?
Why won't you say your name?
What's your name?
Why are you afraid?
Are you ashamed of yourself?
No, you should be.
I'm not ashamed.
My name's Ezra.
Well, you're full of swears and you and you won't say your name.
Make it fair, Canadian assault.
You're a liar again, but you're also a coward because you won't say your name.
Why are you swearing at a stranger?
Why you?
Why you?
This is, this is defamation.
He's a convicted terrorist.
A French court, a French court, convicted him.
You don't even know what you're talking about.
Why would you swear at a stranger?
This is a secure area.
You're not allowed in here.
Well, I am in here.
What are you going to do about it?
You're going to.
Are you going to bomb me?
Please do, and we can go and arrest the bomber together.
Sorry, no worries, leave the guy alone he's talking about.
He came up to me and swore at me.
That's not very polite.
That's a microaggression.
Your nose is running.
Yeah, I know.
Are you calm now?
You want to calm down a bit?
I'd like you to get on my face still.
Well, you came up to me, man like you just started swearing at me like an animal.
You look nervous.
Your thumbs are shaking oh, my god, you're shaking bike ride.
I think you're nervous because I I think you swore at a stranger and you're embarrassed by it.
Engaging the Trolls00:09:40
No, that's definitely.
You're not embarrassed by it.
You don't regret what you just said and did?
No, not at all.
Who are you and why would you treat strangers that way?
Why don't you?
Why don't you debate me if you have something you want to say?
Because you don't want debate, you want controversy and you're garbage.
Well, i'm not a terrorist who murdered Jews.
I have him being convicted by a court in France.
I've got some troll from Rebel News chasing after me.
He's in an area here where he's not supposed to be.
It's a secure Viking area.
come in without authorization.
I cannot say that right now if I can, because he's asking me.
Awesome, thanks.
You're ashamed of yourself.
You won't even say your name.
Well, you're not proud of yourself.
Are you sure you don't want to try again?
Quite sure.
Quite sure.
Are you in the terrorist class?
Yes, obviously.
Obviously.
Every Carlton professor is obviously a terrorist.
Well, he was convicted of it.
No, he was convicted of it.
Obviously, most aren't.
In fact, the Azraeli building, the Lowe Building, are by Jewish philanthropists.
Don't you think it's weird that a convicted Jew killer is in a building donated by Jews?
How would a Jewish student feel in a class taught by a convicted terrorist?
We're going to get you out of here so that you leave other people's property alone and we'll wait for security to come.
What class are you going to now?
Are you going to his class?
Obviously.
Are you a social justice activist yourself?
Obviously, obviously.
You're embarrassed by yourself.
Yes, that's what it is.
Why don't you...
Why don't you...
You're harassing me.
Get out of my face.
I'm not in your face.
How about get out of my face?
That's assault.
Get out of my face.
I'm not in your face.
You're the guy who came up to me and swore at me.
You're out of control.
Your emotions are out of control.
You don't.
I think you don't know how to handle yourself.
You don't know how to handle someone you disagree with.
Exactly.
Cool.
Hey, how's it going?
So how long have you been trolling all of Canada with a bunch of bullshit all your life?
So you're swearing.
You're shaking.
Does it feel good, though?
You're shaking.
You're emotionally out of control.
Does it feel good?
How many times has Rebel News been convicted of libel?
Found liable to Canada.
Never.
Multiple times.
Never.
Name one.
Who's the founder?
Who's the founder?
I don't remember his name right now, but I sure know that that's the case.
Well, if I ever talk to the founder of Rebel News, I'll pass on your message to him.
You sound like you know him pretty well.
You made a mess this morning.
Sure did.
You're swearing, you're assaulting people, you're shaking like a leaf.
Engaging the trolls is my problem.
But you haven't engaged.
I've never fed the trolls under the bridge.
But you haven't engaged.
You haven't made the case.
You don't want an engagement.
There's nothing honest about what you're doing.
Well, why don't you make the case for the convicted terrorists?
You say.
Your assumption is faulty is the problem.
The French court convicted him.
So are you saying that that's not a just conviction?
They tried him a second time.
They tried him a second time.
They only tried them the first time.
There was only one trial.
Yeah.
See, this is not an honest conversation, right?
Anyway, I want your camera out of my face, and I want your mic out of my face.
It's not in your face.
Oh, okay.
Then I'll walk over here and you'll leave me alone.
Cool.
Well, I want to continue to engage with you.
This is harassment.
I haven't sworn at you.
When campus security gets here to make sure you're never allowed on this campus again.
Well, as long as you don't bomb me and kill me, I guess that's a step forward.
Right, every prophet Carlton is a bomber.
No, just one is.
No, but I mean, you've already told me that I am, apparently.
No, I didn't.
Right.
I wish I would have that on camera.
I don't think students at Carlton are very good at disagreeing with people.
I don't think you've been taught how to disagree properly.
No, that's not what I spent my whole life learning.
You've sworn at me, you've bumped up against me.
You won't say your name.
I don't think you've been properly trained to dispute anything.
Hey, how's it going?
I won't use your name out of courtesy for this situation.
Thanks, sir.
waiting for security to come do you want to do you want to apologize for swearing No, I don't think so.
Is that how you handle things you disagree with?
Swear at people, like seriously, is that?
Like, surely you can do better?
You're a student at Carleton yes, I am or a professor, or a TA I don't know what you are, I have no idea.
I mean, I understand people well, into their 30s are still students sort of a failure.
What's that?
What's that?
You thrive on this.
You thrive on comment.
I was minding my own business and he came up to me and swore at me, do you have a more articulate way of putting things?
I have no comment.
Yeah okay, fair enough.
At least you're not swearing at me and bumping up against me, so I'll give you credit for that.
I think you probably.
I mean the thing about a guy your age is you could be a student sort of a failure to launch kind of student.
Or you could be a worker here, you never know, in 2024, you never do.
All right well, I'm gonna go back to my job, because I've got a job and I wish you good luck in overcoming your shame.
I want you to get to the point where you can engage with someone without swearing at them, where you embrace yourself and confident enough in your position that you're willing to give your name.
I think you should reflect on the fact that you're too ashamed to own your conduct today.
Well, what is it then?
Oh sorry, I didn't engage.
Have a good day, sir.
All right, I'm having a good day.
It's very educational.
The state of Carleton the state of Carleton is is poor.
Okay, come back if you want to, if you want to change your mind, okay.
Well, that was our second unsolicited interaction here at Carleton.
It really is Hassan Diab's place now.
Sure, the name Azraeli and Loeb are on the buildings, but those are people who are in their 70s, 80s or passed away already.
I'm not sure which generation of the Loebs and the Azraelis helped build Carleton, their names on the wall, but Hassan Diab is in the classrooms teaching, and I don't think either.
The two people I've talked to today are actually students of the convicted terrorist, but they are advocates for him.
I don't know if they're particularly good advocates.
I don't know if they know how to engage with people who disagree with them.
I read the course outline for Hassan Diab's class and it talked about not necessarily agreeing with each other and having a respectful debate.
It's sort of odd coming from a convicted bomber, but the two people who have come up to me and I'm not sure exactly if they're students, because they seem older, and I mean these days there's people in their 20s and 30s sort of failure to launch students for life.
So I don't know if they were students or if they were teachers, assistants or something else, but I don't think they did a very good job at disagreeing with me.
Hopefully, if someone feels passionate about this issue, they will come up to me and and engage in debates and and maybe they don't have all the facts at their fingertips too I mean, I haven't read in detail the French language ruling by the French court, but what?
What I've seen today just in my half hour on campus tells me that our universities really are hothouses for extremists.
And I'm not going to say that either these two guys were particularly violent.
Both of them did swear at me, which suggests they didn't have other words at their disposal.
And that second guy sort of physically bumped up against me, which I mean, it didn't hurt me or anything.
And I'm not going to call police or sue him or anything.
But it just, like, if you disagree with someone so much, maybe you have a swearing outburst at first.
I get that.
I'm sure I've done that in my life too.
But then, you know, a minute goes by, two minutes goes by.
Maybe you just pull back and calm down and engage in a debate.
The first guy did apologize, and we talked a bit, and actually, I'll give him credit for that, but that second guy calling the police cowardly refusal to use his own name.
If this is the state of academia in 2024, we're in trouble.
And I think it is the state of academia.
Well, these two guys I've spoken with are, I think, what we would call old-stock Canadians.
They're not newcomers.
And they didn't come to Canada from endemically anti-Semitic countries.
But I think that's that coalition you see of the Islamists and the leftists, the woke leftists together.
That's the trouble with Canada.
I'll let you know if anyone else chats with me or bumps up against me or swears at me.
I heard you were upset with the truck, is that right?
Wrongfully Accused00:07:20
What's wrong with it?
This is all propaganda and it's all a lie.
And you know what?
We don't want to be intimidated.
We're Canadian.
We have rights.
You're putting a colleague of mine right there.
You know, there is a war in Canada.
Innocent until proven guilty.
So you need to exercise a proper and honest media ethic.
And don't intimidate us.
We're Canadian like you.
Okay?
We have rights like you.
So don't use a media power and media propaganda to make us we're all threat to Canada.
We're not.
Now, where do you see?
I have nothing to tell you about it.
Okay.
And do you have a similar point of view?
Like, you know, the threshold of extradition is, like, really low.
Like, Hassan Diab has been incarcerated in France for years.
The evidence used by the French government has been just dismissed.
Dismissed by whom?
Even by the judge.
Like, why do you think that Hassan is here?
Well, he was convicted.
No.
He was not convicted.
Why do you say he was convicted?
He was convicted by the French court.
He was convicted in absentia.
On the basis of an evidence that got dismissed by the Canadian government.
But they didn't have a trial of him.
There was no trial of Diab in Canada.
The only trial was in France.
He's not charged in Canada.
Right, so they want to extradite him to France to face justice.
He was extradited twice.
He was incarcerated there for years.
Like, the basis of his extradition has been ruled as garbage.
But you said earlier that he wasn't convicted.
You know that he was convicted.
You can challenge the conviction.
You can want to appeal it.
You can dispute it.
But he was convicted.
On the basis of evidence that has been ruled to be garbage.
Okay, I take it.
Are you familiar with the handwriting evidence that's used by the French government?
I know there were four different sources of evidence.
And listen, if he's innocent, why wouldn't he go and prove his innocence?
Why wouldn't he go and defeat the claims against him?
Why did he refuse to go to the court?
He's been there for years.
He's been incarcerated for years.
Can I ask you?
You know that.
You know that, right?
I do.
He's been incarcerated for years.
But now he's here.
Yeah, now he's here.
And what's the problem with that?
Well, I can put a few problems to you.
And first of all, thanks for talking with me.
How do you think a Jewish student in this class might feel?
I don't know.
They take a guess.
What do you know about that?
A Jewish student in this class?
I can only imagine how it feels to have a convicted terrorist teaching at Carleton.
I mean, you may disagree with the conviction, but he is convicted.
You may disagree with it, and I accept that you disagree with it.
You say it's not fair.
You say the evidence was iffy.
And I'm hearing you.
I hear you.
But would you hear me and say that there's Jews and others on this campus who look at the plain fact that he was convicted by a court and he's pride of place here at Carleton?
Yeah, I don't see any problem with that.
There's such a thing as wrongful conviction.
You know that.
But you're just saying that, that hasn't been made out, that he hasn't been acquitted on appeal.
In France.
In France.
Yeah, he has not been acquitted in France.
The government of Canada has decided that the evidence used by the French government to call for an extradition is not grounded.
In fact, it's made up.
So there's a dispute going on, but what we know for sure is that Hassan Diab refused to go to France to face the trial.
The trial continued in MCNC, and he was convicted.
He was in France for years.
He was incarcerated.
We're both repeating ourselves.
I want to talk more about Carlton.
What about you're wrongfully convicted?
But you're wrongfully accused.
Don't you want the government to fight for you?
Sure, but that hasn't been made out.
That hasn't been made out yet.
Why are you saying that?
Like, Hassan's lawyers team, in Assange's ordeal in court in Canada, has lasted for years, and now he's not going back because the reasons for him to go back are iffy, as you say.
So keep going.
Yeah, and so he's allowed to be here to do his work, to teach.
What's wrong with that?
Well, what's the state of anti-Semitism at Carleton?
How is it for a Jew?
I don't know.
I'm not a Jew.
Right.
Okay, but you can have empathy.
You have empathy.
I can tell you have empathy.
You have a big heart.
I can tell.
What I see at Carleton is that pro-Palestinian discourses and activism has been shut down.
You have no evidence of anti-Semitism.
If you think that, like, Hassan Diab teaching is a manifestation of anti-Semitism, then I think you're wrong.
How is, how is, so you haven't seen any anti-Semitism, but you've seen anti-Palestinian censorship.
Is that what you're saying?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Wow.
That's a different worldview than mine, and I thank you for putting it to me.
Can you give me an example?
I don't know.
I'm not a student here.
Give me an example of how that's happened at Carleton.
There was this student group, like Independent Jewish Voices, who organized an exhibition about scholasticide that was supposed to take place at the library.
This was shut down by Carleton University.
Okay.
So they were documenting the deliberate killing of scholars and education facilities in Palestine since October 7.
Can I ask you your view on Hamas?
Do you believe it's a liberation movement?
No.
Do you think it's a terrorist group?
You tell me, use your own words.
How would you describe Hamas?
I'm not sure, like, my opinion about what I'm asked is, is relevant to our conversation.
I think it might be because you...
What are you doing here?
Well, I'll answer.
What are you doing here?
Why are you just disparaging a colleague?
Sure.
I promise I'll answer that in one minute.
But the reason I ask you what you think about Hamas is because you've told me you don't detect anti-Semitism here.
You think that Hassan Diyab was wrongfully accused.
You think that it's actually in some form been proven that he's not a terrorist, and you think that actually the discrimination here has been against the Palestinian side.
So you said all those things to me.
I'm not saying that Asandiyah has been wrongfully convicted on the base of my own research.
This is on the base of...
And I hear you, and I'll accurately portray what you said.
So the reason I want to know your view on Hamas is because that could help explain to me, if you think Hamas is a liberation group or a political group, then I would look at your earlier answers in a different light.
If you were to say Hamas is a terrorist group, I would have a different approach to your views.
I want to understand where you're coming from, because you've made some judgments today, and I want to know, are they animated by a belief that Hamas is a terrorist group or not?
I think it is important because I want to understand your thinking.
Like, I'm not condoning Hamas's violence.
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If this is what you want me to say, this is not what I'm saying.
I just want you to tell me how you feel about them.
You don't have to, but I would find it useful if you did.
Like, I don't see how this is relevant.
I just don't understand why you're disparaging our colleagues here on campus.
Okay, that's, I think, easy to answer.
Not colleagues, plural, but colleague, the one man who was convicted by a French court.
Yeah, on the basis of evidence that was dismissed by our government.
I think I would disagree with you in part there.
Like, this is factual.
Like, this is factual.
This is not me saying he's innocent.
This is like judges in Canada saying the evidence that the French government is using is inaccurate.
It's made up.
I'm not sure if they said that.
Anyways, listen, I've really enjoyed talking with you.
You might think I'm kidding, but I'm not.
First of all, I appreciate the fact that you would engage with me in a debate of sorts.
And you've been polite to me, too, which I appreciate because two other people had a lot of swears for me.
Well, this is not conducive to a polite conversation.
What is being portrayed there is not a conversation.
You're not appealing to a conversation.
Well, it's raising awareness.
Why are you doing that?
It's not raising awareness.
This is disinformation.
But it is a fact that he was a convicted bomber.
You may dispute the conviction and disagree with the conviction, but it is a fact.
I'm not disputing.
I heard you.
And you don't have to repeat yourself again.
You made it very clear, and I will move.
Do your research.
I'm going to just talk to those security just to make sure we don't have a problem.
Nice to talk with you.
Can you tell me what field of study you're in?
Yeah, I'm a criminologist.
Criminologist.
Okay, thank you.
Hey, how are you?
Good, I'm Ezra.
Hi, I know.
Yeah, I'm aware of you.
How do you do?
Hi, how do you do, Madame Junot?
You are to bring this garbage on campus.
Sorry, are you interviewing Campus Safety now?
I just want to clear it up.
I'm just asking you a question.
We just arrived on scene.
We're just here to chat with everybody involved, figure out what's going on, and determine next steps.
Okay, you know this is a colleague in sociology?
Sorry?
You know this is a colleague in sociology?
This is a problem.
I think we're well equipped to manage the situation.
Oh, I'm not disputing that.
I'm just curious.
Yes, I'm aware of who that is, yeah.
Okay.
So this gentleman here is allowed to come and defame our colleague on campus.
We just arrived on scene.
Can you just answer my question?
Can someone come on campus and say this colleague is a killer?
Well, they drove on campus and they're saying that and we are now on scene.
So what are you gonna do?
Well, do you want us to address the situation with the company, or?
Can you just answer my question?
Is he allowed to do that?
Sorry, I'd like to just clarify who you are first.
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Okay, I didn't know that.
Okay, I'm Nick Lisa Melanie.
We work at Campus Safety.
Nice to meet you.
Good.
So is he allowed to come to campus and defame a colleague?
I like to do that.
Okay, thank you.
So, okay.
Okay, thanks.
Anyway, how are you?
I'm okay.
You know, I've had an interesting morning.
Two people have sworn at me, which I'm used to.
And that professor actually engaged in a very interesting debate with me.
It seemed like there was an interview.
Yeah, he was pretty nice.
I mean, he very much disagrees with our message, but he was very collegial about it.
Very college.
That's good to hear.
Just to clarify, are we being broadcasted right now?
I just want to know.
I don't know.
I mean, I could have a heart to heart with you, but I think it is part of, you know, he, that professor, I think he was a little bit wrong.
He was saying.
Here, go ahead.
You have this guy who loves the truck.
What do you think of the truck?
This truck?
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree with what it says, actually.
Are you a student here?
Yes, I'm a student.
So, first of all, I want to say that I am from Russia, and we, together with family, moved here to Canada, because in Russia, let's say bad things are happening.
The war is started, and the similar cases are there.
There are people like Ramzan Kadyrov, like Dilimkhanov, if you know such names.
I can't say used to be because they are terrorists like this Ramzan Kadyrov claimed that he killed the first Russian when he was 16 and now he is basically warlord of Chechnya And Dilim Khadov is also the terrorist and he is a lawmaker in our parliament.
It is called Sdarsna Dume, but it is like parliament here.
And we moved together to Canada because we thought there would be law in order in this country.
We thought that criminals actually serve punishment here and crime is prosecuted.
However, what I witness here is not really different from Putin's Russia.
And I was very upset when I discovered that things like this are happening in our country, I mean in Canada.
And I really want this to stop, actually.
As far as I understand, there was a judicial decision made in France claiming that this man actually committed this terror attack.
But no judicial decisions have been made in Canada claiming that he is innocent.
And he do not seek political asylum.
So as far as I understand, there should be no legal borders to basically send him back to France where he will serve the punishment he deserves.
At this moment, I understand that any judicial decision can be wrong and there is indeed a small chance that judicial decision of French court is wrong.
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However, there are no decisions that take precedence over decision of the French court.
So I really believe that this man should be deported back to France and serve life sentence in prison.
Well, you seem very well informed on this subject.
And I appreciate you coming over to me because two other students were very hostile, but they didn't really want to engage.
So thank you very much for coming over.
What field do you study in?
Physics and chemistry.
Well, nice to meet you.
And thanks for stopping by.
Yeah, thank you, Tua.
Goodbye.
Yeah, we usually do it like this.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Tua.
All right.
Well, very interesting.
I mean, opinion is mixed here on campus.
Let's talk to the security guys.
All right.
So my goal was to come down here, broadcast the message, and engage.
We didn't do the camera thing.
Sure.
Yeah, you know what?
I know you're allowed.
Can I hand this to you?
Yeah.
Yes.
Well, campus security was called.
I'm not sure who called them.
There's a lot of people in windows looking down at us.
There were a couple people who swore at me and then ran, and I ran with them.
There was a couple of professors who gave me a piece of their mind.
I think it was the guy who swore and then was sort of nervous about himself and called campus security.
Campus Security was great, by the way.
They said that the one main complaint they had was that we're not parked in a proper parking area.
They said they don't actually object to the truck, and I appreciate how reasonable they were.
I told them that we had come here to display the truck, talk to people, and we had pretty much accomplished our goal.
And I didn't want to turn this into a huge matter.
I actually respect these campus security.
They were very, I think they were actually more tolerant of a diversity of views than the other people we spoke with, which is, isn't that interesting?
I don't know if the campus security folks themselves are college educated, but it seems that they have more of an open mind and more of a tolerance for diversity of opinion than the actual students here.
Although we did talk to that one Russian guy who didn't have any time for Hassan Diab.
You know, one thing I heard, and it's obviously a line that has been circulated on campus, is that Hassan Diab's conviction was illegal, was controversial, was inappropriate, in some cases, was false.
That one professor who spoke with me at length actually took different positions.
He said he wasn't convicted.
And then when I said, well, actually, he was, he said, well, the information upon which he was convicted was shoddy, and he claimed that there was a Canadian trial of some sort, which there has not been.
The only people prosecuting and convicting Diab was French.
Now, I will confess, I did not read the entire conviction in French.
I suppose I could get it translated.
But I do know it's an incontrovertible fact that he was convicted of terrorism.
It's true, it was in absentia.
But the fact that he resists going to the trial and refuses to go and to file an appeal and has found a luxurious home here at Carleton, I think is odious.
And when I asked the professor the state of anti-Semitism on campus, he denies it exists at all.
He wouldn't really let me pin him down on Hamas.
And he said, in fact, the only discrimination on campus is against pro-Palestinian voices.
I'm not sure if I believe that.
But I tell you one thing.
The truck has, again, proven its worth.
This truck is a conversation starter.
And the reason we got this conversation started of a truck is because, as you know, we've been renting billboard trucks at Rebel News for years.
But after the October 7th terrorist attack by Hamas against Israel, when we sought to rent the truck to do this kind of messaging, the truck company said, Ezra, we like you, we like Rebel News, we actually agree with you, but we're afraid.
We're afraid that people will harm the truck, harm the driver, harm the company.
For our own safety, we don't feel confident in Canada with this kind of messaging.
So we actually bought our own truck so we can't be censored.
And look at the kind of conversations they're starting.
I love this truck.
We'll continue to drive it.
We'll continue to spark conversations.
I'm not sure how much I learned today from the critics.
I think I'm going to look into a little bit more the extradition legalities.
I think that professor was wrong in a number of ways, but I'm going to check it out.
I have an open enough mind to do that.
What I really learned today is that Canadian leftists and Canadian students are so woke and so hostile to ideas that they don't agree with, but they don't know how to deal with them.
I mean, seriously, running by me, coming up to me while I'm doing an interview or doing a commentary, swearing at me and then running away, that's their style.
Like two guys, and they were old stock Canadians.
That's sort of pitiful.
Like these are the thought leaders of Canada in the future.
This is our future leaders who they don't know how to marshal their words.
And I don't think I was that rude to them.
I mean, I said, you're ashamed and you're a coward.
I was just sort of poking them a bit, hoping they would say, no, I'm not.
Here's my name.
But it is sort of weird that you go to an elite university.
I don't know if anyone calls Carlton elite, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
You go to a university, you study, you're in the world of ideas, and you encounter an idea you don't like, and the only thing you can come up with is a swear.
But I will say to that one guy in the bike room, if I ever come across the founder of Rebel News, I'll give him a piece of my mind.
In Carlton University at Ottawa, I'm Ezra Levant.
Well, maybe you watched our kerfuffle on Sunday when a whole team of rebels, I think there were more than a dozen of us, in support of David to a weekly rally, a pro-Israel, pro-Canada rally.
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and a counter-protest by pro-Hamas Palestinian activists.
The reason we went is not that the event itself was particularly newsworthy, but rather that David Menzies was arrested by police for simply asking questions of the pro-Hamas side.
So a whole bunch of us put on little Panama hats.
They were too little.
I think they were for kids or something.
And we went there in solidarity with David.
And wouldn't you know it, the police did not arrest us this time because they saw we were serious and we were there in numbers and they realized the path of least resistance, which normally is arrest David, was no longer the easiest pass.
But an unfortunate thing happened, and I think it's emblematic of this whole thing, is that one of our reporters, our star from Montreal, Quebec, Alexa Lavoie, who had come in to show solidarity with David, she was hit by a pro-Hamas activist with a flagpole.
We caught it on tape from two different perspectives, and yet the policeman refused to lay charges until we made a fuss.
Here's a quick recap of what happened.
Are you?
Whoa!
Go!
Shut up!
She's in this place!
She's not moving!
No!
No, I don't let me hit!
No, I did nothing!
Stay right here.
He pushed me!
Stay right here.
Yell at me!
He pushed me!
Yell at me!
He pushed me!
You're not me, have it on camera!
This guy on the street!
Oh, that makes me so mad.
And by the way, this same pro-Hamas activist on several occasions.
As you can see in the background here, he's been harassing our journalists for months.
I tell you all this because we're going to go right now to talk to our Montreal star who right now is just across the border in New York State in the city of Plattsburgh, where she's doing a story on migrants crossing from America into Canada.
I'm going to ask her about that very important story, but first I want to catch up with her on the assault against her by the Hamas activists.
And joining us now via Skype from Plattsburgh, New York is Alexa Lavoisi.
Alexa, great to see you again.
And I'm excited to hear your news from Plattsburgh.
But first, I just want to check in with you about what happened on Sunday.
Tell us in your own words what happened.
I think we saw basically out of the blue, this guy hit you with the flagpole.
Is that how it was like on your end?
Yes, of course.
I went over there because someone was whispering something to all the protesters.
And I was curious to know what he is saying.
And when I arrived towards this guy, he actually reacted really aggressively.
And he tried to hit me twice with his flagpole.
And at one point, I had to protect myself.
And I was pushed and I almost fell on the ground.
Yeah.
I'm glad it was broken up really quickly.
Actually, one of our other staff, Yankee Pollock, I think he intervened.
Police were standing about 10 feet away.
I don't think they were focused on this guy, in fairness to them.
But when we went to the police and said, take a look at the footage, they refused at first, which I found atrocious that they said they had better things to do.
But you have a little bit of news for us today, and I'm excited to hear it.
Just before we turn the camera on, you told me that you just received a phone call from the Toronto Police Service.
And again, you don't have to give away all the details of the call, but it sounds like they're contacting you to follow up.
Is that correct?
Yes, they called me to follow up and to get my statement about what happened Sunday.
Okay, well, that is the first step in an investigation to get the victim's report.
So I'm glad they called.
And that was a question because the commander on the scene did promise to follow up.
I'm glad to hear it.
Since Sunday, as I mentioned, we've discovered that this same criminal has been harassing people, not just our staff, but there's a street citizen journalist named Karim Asad who's been harassed by him too.
I just want to say to you what I said to David, which is that we're going to back you 100%.
I'm glad you weren't injured or anything serious, but an assault is an assault nonetheless.
And he used a weapon.
Assaulting someone with a flagpole is outrageous, even though you weren't injured.
We will help you pursue this.
And I've already spoken to an excellent criminal lawyer that we use for David Menzies.
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And I don't want to get into too much detail now because we're just in very early days.
But I find it encouraging that the Toronto Police have, in fact, contacted you.
And we will give you whatever support you need.
Thank you very much for supporting me.
And it's why we all came last Sunday in solidarity and in support for David Menzies, who also got handcuffed and arrested aggressively.
I was really shocked to see that.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to do my best to stand with you and David and any of our staff who are attacked either, God forbid, by police or by street activists like this guy.
All right, I just wanted to talk about that because it was on my mind and I hadn't seen you since Sunday.
But let's talk about the exciting project you're on now.
You and our colleague Lincoln Jay have put together a little introduction for what you're doing in New York.
So just to catch up our viewers who haven't seen it yet, here is our guardtheborder.com project.
Take a look.
Have illegal crossings increased since Trump's victory?
Are we prepared for what might becoming?
What is the current situation at the border?
These are the questions my colleague Lincoln J and I will be working to answer in the coming days.
I'm currently in Plattsburgh, New York, investigating illegal crossings.
But yesterday, we conducted an extensive overview on the Canadian side in Quebec, which is a hotspot for people to illegally jump the border.
With over 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the US, Trump's promises of massive deportations, and Canada's already struggling immigration system, are we truly prepared?
Do we have the resources in place to handle a potential influx?
Premier François Legault, who has repeatedly urged the Trudeau government to reduce immigration into Quebec, he seems to distrust Trudeau's open border policies.
In response, Legault has announced the deployment of the Certé de Québec SQ for border surveillance.
But will this really make a difference?
We created guardtheborder.com to keep you informed about the border situation.
There, you will find all our reports and you can support our hard work with a donation.
While mainstream media parrots Trudeau's narrative, we are committed to bringing you the truth from the ground.
Well, that's very exciting because Donald Trump has said he's going to have a mass deportation.
And some people will leave willingly.
Some people, you know, will try and hide.
But what we've seen before is that when Donald Trump was first elected, tens of thousands of people just decided to walk across the border into Canada.
That could happen again, right?
Oh, of course.
And it's more than certain because I spoke with some border patrol and I spoke with the department of the sheriff of the Clinton County.
And them, they are looking into an increase of influx that might come soon.
Now tell me about Wroxham Road itself, that very small road.
And there's this little ditch.
No fence, no nothing.
You went there many times.
Have you been there again on this journey?
Did you see, is there a fence there?
Is anyone crossing?
Are the RCMP still there?
So you just said that this could and is likely to happen again.
What's the state of it right now?
Is it closed right now?
Are there cops there right now?
No, there is no cop.
There is some RCMP who are patrolling around.
But as me and Lincoln J, we saw, it's multiple, multiple roads end up in the end of the street where there is a little fence stopping maybe a car to cross over, but not a human being.
So at Wroxham Road, there is no fence.
There is only a small, they dig a ditch with a little bit of water that separate the USA and Canada just for, I think it's a prevention for the car to not drive straight into the US.
So what we saw, it's there is not enough RCMP on the ground to cover the, I think it's thousands of kilometer of unprotected border.
There is camera around, but like the time, like just an example, me and Lincoln J, we went to one of this end of street during the night.
And I did count how many times it took for the RCMP to reach out to us.
So we were not in a hurry.
We were filming and everything.
And we stayed at this place for about 30 minutes.
And afterwards, we started driving up until that we finally got pulled over for being questioned.
And they say to us that they opened a criminal investigation because we were over there.
But if the person did speed or hide his car, close the lights, how the RCMP will have been able to catch them because there is no camera along the main road.
So my point is, if they took about 30 to 40 minutes to find us, this is just a long reaction for many, many people who are coming in with coyote or humans trafficking.
They are letting them buy car.
They walk over the land.
And after that, someone else is pickuping them up on the American side.
So I found a lot of people advertising those illegal crossing.
There is many of them.
And just today, I found many, many different accounts.
Some account from Toronto who are bringing them to the Quebec border.
So this is just insane what is happening at our border.
Wow.
Well, I hope you do your reports in English, but also in French, because of course, Wroxham Road is the border between New York and between Quebec.
And I think of all the premiers, the Quebec premier has been the most vocal with his concerns about immigration.
He's concerned about legal immigration too.
He's talked about temporary foreign workers and students.
But of course, illegal immigrants are even less desirable because many of them have a criminal record, which is why they were refused permission to stay in the United States.
Here's something that's been on my mind.
A couple months ago, there was a lot of stories out of Springfield, Ohio, which had a huge influx of Haitians.
And Haitians have had temporary rights to stay in America because the country of Haiti is basically in the Civil War, to be honest.
But if that permission is removed, you will have tens of thousands, maybe over 100,000 Haitians who will have to leave.
And Haiti, I actually have been there.
It's a really rough country.
There's a lot of violence.
I wouldn't, even if I was Haitian, I wouldn't want to go back there.
But Montreal has a large Haitian community.
Montreal, of course, speaks French.
So you could see, theoretically, tens of thousands, not just a trickle, but a flood coming across.
And I don't think the Canadian government is ready.
I don't even know if they care, but I know they're not ready.
What do you think?
They are not ready.
And it's really funny because this coincides with the sprung shelters that Ottawa wants to build in small community.
And those community who are mostly from immigrant background, they are pushing back against that because they say, we came legally here.
We have limited resources.
And you are talking about putting 150 single man asylum claimant in one big sprung shelter in the middle of a community where children is everywhere.
So this is a problem.
And you know the biggest problem that we have?
There is no consequences for the people who are crossing illegally the border.
And I spoke with one of the RCMP.
And you know what they say to me?
I say, okay, if we put that in the theory, that I'm actually a human trafficker.
And behind me, there is immigrant that I'm actually driving around.
What would be the next step if you caught me?
And they say, okay, but we will lay some criminal charges against the driver for facilitating the entry into the country.
And I say, what about the immigrant?
Right.
They say, but we will put criminal charge too.
But I say, but if they are claiming asylum, what will happen?
They say all charge will be dropped.
You know, there is no such thing as a refugee from America.
America is a safe country with the rule of law.
And it's a, you know, you may disagree with this policy or that policy, but no one is in danger in America.
And the idea that we would even consider a refugee application doesn't make sense.
Frankly, the idea of a safe third party agreement we have with America says you can't be a refugee from Canada to America.
You can't be a refugee from America to Canada.
But the countries don't seem to be enforcing this.
Anyhow, Alexa, I'm really glad you're down there.
How long are you going to be on this project?
How long do you plan to stay in New York?
So I think we are going to stay overnight because there is another area where there were a lot of crossing happening.
So we want to investigate on that side.
Also, I tried to reach out to the main spokesperson for the sheriff department.
So we wish we will have like a callback because they are allowed and they need to talk.
So they did a whole and their duty is actually deliver the information to the public.
And I would say if we want as Canadians to have more information about what is going on at the border, the transparency is more mainly in the US side.
Isn't that interesting?
If you try to have information on the Canadian side, you might end up with nothing.
I believe you.
Well, listen, I'm very excited you're down there.
It looks lovely.
It looks a little chilly.
I'm glad you're wearing your rebel toque.
By the way, you can get that rebel toque at our store, rebelnewsstore.com.
I have the same toque.
I love wearing it.
Stay warm, stay safe, of course, because not just the migrants themselves, but the people who smuggle them, we know from that they have attacked rebel reporters on two different occasions.
So stay safe.
No story is worth getting hurt over.
And by the way, I'm glad that the Toronto police have, in fact, called you about what happened on Sunday.