Miss Understood No. 39 exposes recycling’s failure—U.S. rates plummeted to 5%–6% in 2021 from 9.5% in 2014, thanks to Greenpeace’s revelations about exported waste miscounting. Nat and Kat mock "virtue signaling" packaging, pandemic-era hostility (like a masked woman harassing an unvaccinated person with a cane), and Extinction Rebellion’s performative activism, while critiquing the left’s illiberal turn and politicians’ ideological rigidity over real solutions. The episode blends sharp satire with systemic skepticism, questioning whether climate or social movements ever deliver meaningful change. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the culturally and politically misunderstood lady, gent, non-binary, alien.
It, it, they, her, him, spoob it and poop it.
Spoob it and poob it.
I forget what.
We are your hosts.
I'm Nat.
It's.
I am Kat Hersher.
For sure.
For sure.
And this week we're talking about climate, the death of the liberal, and briefly, possibly briefly, how the pandemic has changed us.
It's fascinating.
And we don't have a culture shock.
It's going to be shocking enough, you guys.
I'm shocked.
Well, this one is shook.
This one shook me to my cold.
Shook her to her cold.
To my apple core, okay?
Which you should compost, by the way.
Yes.
There's a new study out that, okay, well, the article title is Plastic Recycling is a disaster and a myth.
And this was written by Vice, y'all.
Yeah, guys.
So that's interesting.
It's not even like we're like right-wing extremists saying this.
This is Vice.
Like, as left as it gets.
And Greenpeace USA are the ones who conducted the survey.
So.
Crazy times.
Or maybe they didn't conduct a survey.
I think they did.
They did a report.
They did a report.
Yeah.
It was a report.
So a new report from Greenpeace USA paints a dire picture for recycling efforts in the United States.
They've fundamentally failed.
Ouch.
I mean, as shocking as it is, I also think it's kind of obvious in a way because there are so many limitations to what you can and cannot recycle.
And it's unfair to expect the everyday average person to know how to separate, like you can't recycle black plastic, for example, or your coffee cup with the line.
I recently learned those.
Right.
And it's exactly, but it's not intuitive at all.
So it's like, of course we failed.
It's also interesting, Nat, that like it changes depending on your jurisdiction.
I do.
Yeah.
So you have to actually look up in your riding what the recycle rules are.
Oh, that's silly.
Yeah.
They're setting us up for failure.
Yes, they're literally setting us up for failure.
But according to this report, the U.S. plastic recycling rate was estimated to have declined to about 5% to 6% in 2021, down from a high of 9.5% in 2014.
Sorry, 2014, and 8.7 in 2018.
But listen to this.
When, in 2018, when the U.S. exported millions of tons of plastic waste to China and counted it as recycled.
Oh, sure.
That's not a lie at all.
How what?
Like, I've heard people say that recycling is a scam, and I'm like, okay.
Tinfoil hat.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm still going to rinse out my yogurt tub and put it in the recycling bin.
But like.
Well, also, it could smell if you don't.
Yeah, that's true.
You're doing yourself a favor, too.
Yeah, but like five to six percent.
That's I guess that's better than zero.
Is it worth still?
Like, is it, are you going to continue doing this, like recycling after this?
I probably will not, to be honest.
Although there is, I guess maybe it's a force of habit at this point.
But the article even says that the plastic and product industries have been promoting plastic recycling as a solution to plastic waste since the early 1990s.
Some 30 years later, the vast majority of U.S. plastic waste is still not recyclable.
So it's like, we know this.
But don't you find it strange that the government and like the activists aren't trying to maybe come up with a new solution?
Like, why aren't we, you know, maybe creating different kinds of plastics that are all recyclable or incentivizing businesses to use those plastics?
Like, why are we changing?
Well, it's it's why you'll go to like a yogurt shop and get a wooden spoon instead of a plastic one.
And honestly, I have no problem with that.
Oh, me nice.
As long as there's no splinters in it.
Yeah.
Like the paper straws, they're stinky and horrible.
Yeah, those are bad.
Those are bad, but they're getting the technology is improving with the paper straw.
They're making them thicker.
It's true, it's true.
So, like, that is something that it sucks, but it's like, okay, I can make my piece.
And the new Starbucks lids when they ice coffee.
People are kind of cute with carrying them.
They always look a little chic to me.
Yeah, exactly.
So I can make my piece with making those changes, but like the plastic lid is still plastic.
Yeah, it's funny.
Paper straw, it wrapped in plastic, put it in the plastic cup.
Yeah.
And you're like, wait, this can't be good.
No.
But I don't know.
Like, don't you think it's weird that they haven't come up with a way or a solution to recycle either all types of plastic or just like ban certain kinds of plastic and that's what they're doing in Canada.
I think starting in 2023, I believe single-use plastic is going to be banned.
And we were, I think we were talking about that on the live stream a couple weeks ago.
But I, again, by the end of 2021 was the original goal.
Okay, well, we're lagging.
But I do.
I do think, like, apparently microplastics have been found in like human bone marrow or something.
Yeah.
Something science man, but some, some deep, some deep part of the human body in post-mortem have found that there's like microplastics in our bodies where there weren't before.
So every time I'm using like a paper, a plastic spoon or something, I'm like, I try to avoid it because it's like, hold on, Miss Neese.
Oh.
Yeah.
Bless you.
Sorry.
It's coming.
Bless you.
It's gone.
Okay.
That was good.
Very satisfying.
So every time you're using plastic.
Every time I'm using a plastic spoon or eating out of something plastic, I'm like, this is the microplastics they're talking about.
It's literally like drawing pen on your skin.
It's going in, seeping in the sky.
It's literally disgusting.
Like, do not microwave your food in the plastic container that you got your takeout in, guys.
Like, I am taking of that.
Takeout.
Don't do it, Nat.
I'm not going to do it.
Don't do it.
I'm going to stop.
Yeah.
Also, like, the fact that so much takeout still comes in plastic, it's really gross because you're like, the food is hot.
Like, you can store food in plastic as long as it's cold.
But once it's hot, like it's hot and you put it in the plastic, like it's picking up little micro particles.
It's really, really bad for you.
So Swiss LA has changed to like the cardboard.
It's still like plastic line, though, I think.
Right.
And so you can't recycle it either.
So it's.
Basically, all these businesses are just virtue signals.
Yeah, I do recycle it because I feel like I should, but like, probably it's probably going in the garbage.
It's in China by now.
Yeah.
It's insane.
So it would be nice to see.
Or even the tinfoil ones.
Those are, I feel like those are better.
Right.
Yes.
Yeah, the aluminum foil ones.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So we should be working towards reducing our single-use plastics because I know I sound like a hippie douche, but well, I don't think, okay, I'm sure conservators will get mad at us for talking about it from this point of view.
Come at us, bros.
But I mean, we are called the steward of the earth.
I want to take care of the earth.
I don't want garbage everywhere.
And yes, I do think that a lot of the data about all of this stuff has been wildly inflated.
Wildly inflated.
And I think the climate change agenda is a scam 100%.
But I'm not against recycling.
No, absolutely not.
No.
I think what's interesting too is, and I saw this somewhere on the internet once, is that it seems like we've created more stuff that cannot be recycled as time has progressed.
Whereas back in the day, people would get their milk in glass bottles and stuff like that.
And I understand glass is not the safest.
Like if it breaks, it can be my glass, my milk and glass.
Right, exactly.
It's very thick.
I've dropped it.
It's so thick.
Yeah.
And you get a $2 deposit on it.
Right, exactly.
Like, so maybe trying to utilize things like that.
And it tastes better.
Yeah, of course it tastes better because it'd be cooler, like all these things.
So, I mean, there are, it's interesting how we've gotten worse, even though the hysteria around climate is also increasing day by day.
You're like, I don't understand.
And also, like, your phone, heller, like, how much of this is recyclable?
Oh, yeah.
What, what metallic components that we got from slave labor in Africa are recyclable in that phone.
And then the con we're caught, like, it'll be like TELUS or Belle or Rogers being like, today is, like, we recycle day.
Do we also?
The next day, they're like, you need a new phone because we made your phone in such a way that it will die in two years.
Or you can't plug it into your phone.
And you can't recycle it.
And you can't recycle it.
Right.
And it's the same with like electric vehicles.
Any electronics.
Yeah.
Electric vehicles with batteries.
They don't decompose, you guys.
It's a scam.
It's a scam.
It's unfortunate.
It really is.
But it is interesting that Vice is acknowledging that recycling is a scam, yet they're still like perpetuating this climate hysteria narrative.
And it's like, well, maybe if we're questioning recycling plastics, we should also question what else the government is telling us about, you know, climate change and all that.
I don't know.
Question nothing.
Yeah.
Trust the government.
Right.
Just wait for Vice to tell you what to do and then you'll be good.
And then another article from Vice about those young climate activists who were throwing soup on the Mona Lisa and whatnot.
Now, my biggest takeaway from this article, which is a big relief, is that all of those paintings that have been destroyed were covered, were protected by glass.
Yeah.
Guys.
Thank God.
Thank God.
Because I was thinking, like, should priceless art, like, I'm like, is they should either hack off the arms of the people who are doing that or we should put them behind glass.
So it's like, okay, they're at least, they're making like a theatrical statement, but really the only people they're hurting are themselves because they're super gluing themselves to stuff, which I don't understand.
It's absurd.
And there's so many things to say about this, but it's also like, are you actually, like, what is this accomplishing?
Like, when did raising awareness ever actually do anything tangible that benefited the cause?
I've never, I can't think of one example.
Like, cool, you, you got a bunch of clicks on Twitter and whatever, but what do you actually do for the environment?
It's raising awareness.
Right.
Because we don't hear enough about climate change.
Yeah.
It's never talked about.
It hasn't been a decade.
It hasn't been addressed.
It's never been addressed.
Yeah, there aren't anything.
It's not something that the Prime Minister of Canada literally talks about every single day on Twitter.
Ugh.
And we've done a sketch about Extinction Rebellion, but I didn't know that.
So in this article on Vice, they talk about the group Extinction Rebellion, whose single demand is that the government commits to ending all licenses and permissions for fossil fuel projects.
Like, give me a break.
What are we going to do?
In the meantime, in the meantime, people will die because they can't drive anywhere.
They can't heat their home.
Which is funny because they're so scared about the earth dying and they'll die by climate change, yet they're willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause.
It's like they're using at our expense as well.
And there's a lot of cognitive dissonance here.
I think it's maybe brainwashed a little bit.
A little bit.
It's something brain related.
Well, of course, it makes sense from like a secular perspective because these people are, they've found something to put their hope in and they've latched on to it and now it's their entire life and their identity.
And it's pretty sad, but honestly, it just, these kids are brats.
Yeah, they're brats.
More climate brats.
Mostly that's what I take away from it.
Yeah.
I think also the first article, sorry, the first sentence in this article is, for most of us, doing our bit for the climate means giving up meat, remembering to take the recycling out and avoiding shrimp rack cucumbers in the supermarket.
Okay, so I'll recycle.
I will buy cucumbers that aren't shrink wrapped because why does it need to be?
It's already in like its thick waxy skin.
Sure, it is.
But if I could find one, I'd buy it.
Sure.
But for most of us, doing our bit means giving up meat.
Near.
No.
Near.
No, near.
And giving up.
It's very, very arguable that by eating processed, like soy and canola oil products that are like mushed into something that looks like meat, it's actually a lot worse for the environment.
And yourself.
And yourself.
Meat is 100% meat.
Beyond meat is a bunch of other creatures.
It's a bunch of stuff.
It's like 30% of the time.
Apparently, impossible burgers are like maybe not suitable for eating.
Oh.
Like this is like new.
They're like, oh, it might not actually, you probably shouldn't eat that.
That's great.
Great.
That's great.
That's great.
So please don't eat impossible.
They're literally called impossible burgers because they shouldn't exist.
Yeah.
And they're disgusting.
I've never possibly disgusted.
Have you had one?
No.
I refuse.
I refuse.
I love meat.
I'm a flame incarni.
And I will eat cows till the cows come home.
Ethically, of course.
Yes.
Well, that's the thing, though.
My husband and I buy ethically raised, sourced meat from our local butchers.
So not only are we, we're supporting our local economy.
It's all from Ontario.
It's good.
You can't get any better than that.
You can't get better than that.
Unless you go out and shoot it yourself.
Yes.
That is the best you can do as a city slicker.
Yeah, it's true.
Not me, though.
No.
She's up.
I'm a hard.
Yeah, I'm hunting.
She's already taught her baby as his arrival.
So she's soon.
Claps for cat.
Yeah.
There's also another thing I wanted to talk about.
Yes.
So, okay.
So in this article, they kind of profile a couple of people who have been arrested doing these Extinction Rebellion stuff.
One of them is super funny.
So this guy, I wrote his name, but then I didn't.
I thought I did, but I wrote XX.
So his name is XX.
He's like 21, and he's been in prison since March.
And so this is his quote about living in prison.
Oh, good.
I wake up every morning and exercise in the yard and spend an hour or two socializing with my neighbors who show me kindness and care.
I'm sure they do.
I spend most of my days reading and watching TV and play pool and snooker with my friends in the wing.
The vegan food is pretty good and the culture is jovial and positive.
Yeah, like honestly, this person's life is probably better than it would be if he wasn't in prison.
Because he's a 21.
He's 21-year-old with probably no skills, maybe, who, like, in the UK, this is like UK-based.
And in the UK, the cost of living is extremely high.
Like, this one girl who's 29 said she came back from living in Thailand with her partner to come home and the cost of living was too expensive.
So she immediately joins Extinction Rebellion and gets married.
That's what you do.
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Yeah.
Like, so basically, you are watching TV, playing pool, socializing, eating vegan food while the taxpayers are funding it.
And you don't have to worry about bills or anything.
No.
All you have to do is pretend to work.
Pretend to worry about the climate and blame everyone else while you're in prison.
It's yucking it up.
Basically.
It's a genius.
It's like a male going to a female prison.
It's genius.
It's pretty, it's pretty like, you know, maybe in America, the prisons would be rougher.
Perhaps, I don't know, but it's like, maybe they're literally just getting arrested so they don't have to deal with the real world.
I don't blame them.
Sign me up.
There's this other girl, too, how she was asked if she's concerned about the impact this will have on her future.
And she's like, she's 20, by the way.
A little bit, yeah.
I'm in my 20s, so I do have a long future career ahead of me.
Oh, that's the girl who's 29.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
She's 20.
She's 20.
Oh, she's in her 20s.
Sorry.
Yeah, I know, but it's just like 29 girl.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
Okay, yeah.
So she's in her 20s, she says.
So I don't have a long future career.
I do have a long future career ahead of me.
A lot of the activists that went to prison are retired.
There's a reason that the older generation gets involved with this high-risk kind of stuff.
Yeah, so basically old, miserable hippies whose lives are over, like, yeah, do it, do it, because they want you to be miserable just like them.
That's what I'm getting.
Stinky.
Yeah, and really stinky.
These old farts don't care about you.
Like, and ironically, I was listening to Joe Rogan on the way to work today, and he had Bridget Fettisy on, and they were talking about this exact same, not this exact article, but they were talking about the brats throwing the soup on the paintings and whatnot.
And she was like, she was like, just clean up a beach.
Yeah.
Just go clean up a beach, Phil.
Show me pictures of all the stuff you got off the beach, all the plastics you took out of the ocean.
It's so funny.
Do something.
That's the thing, though.
It's like when Jordan Peterson says, like, you got to make your own bed first.
Like, why, if you want to inspire change, why don't you start with yourself?
Like, if you want to be a climate activist, I guess so.
But, like, I don't know, you start recycling.
Set a positive example.
Maybe people will follow suit if you don't, like, you don't have to have a temper tantrum and rule and try to ruin paintings.
And then in this article, they talk about how being a climate activist is a lot of sitting around, like, on the phone with lawyers, being in jail, sitting in front of a bulldozer or whatever.
Wasting time.
Yeah, so you're basically a climate inactivist.
You're just sitting on your butt doing nothing, complaining that the world is screwing you over, and then going to prison where you're getting fed vegan food and playing.
That's funny.
That should be the title of the show.
Write that down.
I don't know what I said.
But anyways.
Climate inactivists.
There we go.
Nailed it.
Okay, anyway.
Anyways.
And by the way, I agree with their right to protest.
And I know you do too, but like vandalization for the sake of clicks is way different than protesting for your rights and freedoms or just protesting to raise awareness for something.
I can live with that if you want to.
Yeah, yeah.
But not protest away.
Not at the expense of people's safety and at the expense of priceless paintings.
Okay.
There's not much to enjoy in 2022.
It's nice if we can just look at the beautiful art.
Yeah, look at the art.
It's priceless.
It's priceless.
It's not bad.
Anyways, great.
Let's talk about how the old libs are dead.
They've died.
Shocker.
They're gone.
Shocking.
Where did they go?
Yes.
So this article is from the Daily Wire.
It's the anti-war left is dead and gone, if it ever even existed.
So basically, the whole point of this is, like, my takeaway was like these three things.
Like, the left is now pro-big pharma, anti-free speech, and pro-war.
Yeah.
And that's pro-war is specifically what they're talking about in this article.
Because a couple weeks ago, the Democrat Washington rep Congresswoman Pramila.
Pramila J. Appell.
Yeah, Jay Apple.
She had a letter co-signed by 50 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, CPC, asking Biden to proactively seek peace talks with Russia and Ukraine.
Yeah.
Oh, but wait, what happened to the letter?
Oh, well, she pulled it because the letter was chiefly because calling for peace talks appeared to line up with GOP Republican talking points.
So basically, they're willing to forego peace because they don't want to be in line with the Republicans.
Oh, my Gersh.
Oh, my Gersh.
By the way, there are Republicans who are pro-war.
There is a lot of them.
Yeah, it's particularly like it sus a little too many.
A little too many, yeah.
And that's also what I took away from this because it's like we have to be so discerning when it comes to politicians.
Just because they slap a nice label of Republican or Democrat or conservative or liberal, that doesn't mean anything.
You can't be in a cult like that.
Yeah, you have to question everything because like, and that's why I think when Trump refers to the swamp, it's unlikely he was just pointing fingers at the Democrats because there are so many politicians, especially in Canada.
You notice this too when you have the same politicians winning over and over again, like these people are just in it for the paycheck.
I would love to know what they've actually accomplished and what they've actually, as conservatives, have conserved in the conservative sense.
Like it's like, I don't know, we just can't get caught up in the words they say.
I think we need to pay attention to the legislation they pass and all that sort of stuff.
And that's what I took away from this article, even though it's about the death of the liberal in a sense.
It's kind of like, well, actually, it seems like it's the death of politicians with integrity.
Or were there ever exists as per the article?
Yeah.
But like, we've probably said this before, but like, you can't just be in a cult where you agree with any exactly.
Like, if maybe a conservative candidate that you like is like, oh, I feel this way on abortion, you're like, I agree with that.
But that does not mean that you have to co-sign on all of the other things that they agree with just because they're on your side on one issue.
And I think, like, you have to use, like, Nat was just saying, you have to use critical thinking and like look at each issue and make these decisions.
They're important.
And informed decisions.
Exactly.
They're important decisions.
And I think that's what's interesting about bipartisan, partisan part, that's what's interesting about bipartisanism.
Whatever.
Whatever.
That's what's interesting about the two parties, the left and the right, is that we hate the opposition so much that we're willing, we're blinded by our hatred.
So we're willing to vote in the Conservative Party or the Democrat Party or the Republican Party just to get someone out.
And it's like, that is silly in a way because it's silly.
You have to vote for your values.
Like, you got it.
You owe it to yourself.
And also, like, not just that they're willing to vote in the other guy who's the opposite or whatever.
They're willing to bring us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia just to not be a Republican, not to line up with the Republican values on this.
Like, what the heck?
You guys, like, talk about putting the people last.
Yeah, like, people are worried about the climate.
They think that's an imminent threat to them when literally we're like 10 seconds to midnight on nuclear war right now.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's mind-boggling.
It's mind-boggling.
Yeah.
And it's like, is there some secret room where all these politicians are going to get to if this nuclear war erupts?
Like, probably.
Like, I guess we're not invited us regular folk, but don't worry, keep gluing your head to a painting.
Yeah.
That's going to change the world.
It's going to solve all.
Instead of actually calling on your people that you've represented for to this is exactly what they should have been writing a letter asking Biden to proactively seek peace.
Yeah.
That is the best thing we can do.
That's all we can do.
They're will like, I'm not an expert on Russia, Ukraine by any means, but my understanding of it is Russia big, strong, Ukraine, small, weak, probably not going to win an arms war with Russia.
So like even Russia's the bad guy.
We need to make a negotiation.
Like every day, like on the weekend, I woke up and went on Twitter and I saw that Justin Trudeau had just sent more military vehicles to Ukraine.
And they're like, he said, we're going to train them how to use them and we're going to support Ukraine every step of the way and we're going to give them as much aid as they need.
It's like, you're signing our death warrant right now because you can't just, and you can't just keep like sending money and arms to which is causing, I mean, the cost of living in Canada is insane right now, but let's just keep sending more money overseas.
Let's not unlimited money.
But even still, like.
You're bringing us to the brink of nuclear war.
What we need to do is negotiate.
But Zelensky has literally said negotiation is not on the table.
And that's the person that we're funding.
Yeah, that's it's not great, you guys.
But like, and so they had an opportunity here.
Sure, it's just a letter, but it's a step in the right direction.
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And because they didn't want to be seen as Republican, they pulled it.
Yeah, they care more about how they're perceived.
Yes, exactly.
Then literally your face melting from a nuclear blast.
It's pretty disgusting.
Anyways, didn't think that would go in that direction.
There's no hope for politicians, I guess.
They're all bad.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Even you, if you're a politician, you're watching.
You're terrible.
You are the problem.
Unfortunately.
What else have we got here?
You know, the economists talking about the illiberal left.
So much jargon in this.
Yeah, it's a lot.
But basically, Classical liberals are now conservatives and lefties who once identified with classical liberalism are now so far left that they're just mad people.
They're crazy.
That's what I took away from it.
Yes, pretty much.
Yeah.
Basically, also one interesting part about this is Milton Friedman once said that society that puts equality before freedom will end up with neither.
And that's that's something, I mean, because the far left right now is so into equity and equality and diversity and spoobity spoobity spoop.
And like it's not doing anything good.
Yeah.
Like it's done.
It's only created more divide.
And I think in 2022, even though we don't have vaccine mandates and all that stuff, it still doesn't feel like we're really free because we're under the bondage of these social expectations.
Yeah.
You know?
It's better than it was a year ago, but you're absolutely right.
But even still, you know, the left, the mob gets woker and woker and bigger and bigger and cancel culture.
Can you get?
I know.
And you can get canceled for everything or doxxed or whatever it is.
And it is scary.
Yeah.
They've become totalitarian.
That reminds me of another quote from this article, which is extremely left-leaning.
This whole article talks about how Trumpism ruined the world and whatever.
But there's some nuggets here.
So here's a nugget.
They say, they have also, they being the left, they have also brought along tactics to enforce illogical purity by not no platforming their enemies and canceling allies who have transgressed with echoes of the confessional state that dominated Europe before classical liberalism took root at the end of the 18th century.
And it's like, yeah, like if you've seen the movie Braveheart, like, you know when he's getting tortured at the end and spoiler.
And they're like ripped, they're disemboweling him and they're like, confess, confess.
It's literally that, like, you're not getting disemboweled on a table in front of a crowd, but you're getting dehumaned on a massive platform and canceled.
And like you could lose your job.
You could lose your banking account.
Like you can lose your ability to take part in the public discourse.
Exactly.
And unless you confess, like just like we talked about last week with Taylor Swift.
Exactly.
Like she did nothing wrong, but she had to like confess to her sin of saying sometimes she's worried that she's fat because she has an eating disorder.
And she had to confess lest she be canceled.
Yeah.
And there's no such thing.
There's just no grace.
These people offer you no grace, no room to grow or change, even if you do actually say something that's truly wrong.
Like I think I believe in repenting.
Yeah, we all make mistakes.
And that's the thing with social media being as big as it is.
Like if I'm on Twitter every day popping off, you know I'm going to say something stupid eventually.
That's why we have to be careful with our words.
But people make mistakes.
Are we not above like forgiving people?
Like our politicians are in rooms right now bringing us closer and closer to nuclear war and no one cares about that.
But if someone like Nat misgenders someone or I say or I say climate change isn't real, like that's the biggest threat going on right now.
Like that's what we need to cancel each other for.
Gosh darn it.
Goosh Derner.
Gus Derners.
Cancel them.
Cancel them.
All right.
All right.
Speaking of being canceled.
The pandemic.
It's canceled.
Yes.
It's over.
So new research provides evidence that the pandemic changed our personalities.
So a new study published in PLOS One, I don't know, I don't know.
Suggests that the COVID pandemic has indeed triggered much greater shifts in personality than we would expect.
So the researchers found that people were less extroverted, less open, less agreeable, and less conscientious in 2022 and 2021 and 22 compared to before the pandemic.
I personally witnessed this in my friends and my family.
Well, absolutely.
Because it was the most polarizing time, especially if you were someone who was questioning the narrative from the get-go, you were automatically deemed a bigot or right-wing or a conspiracy theorist.
And then these people who mostly tended to be on the left in my experience, they were like, peace out, we're not friends anymore.
Yeah, literally.
You literally spent years on the defense, basically.
And before the pandemic, you could have, I could have interesting political debates with my friends where it's like, I think this.
Yeah.
I think this.
Like climate change was always a touchy issue.
Yes.
But there were things you could talk about where you're like, I don't know about that.
I've heard this.
And it's like, oh, okay, maybe.
But once the pandemic hit, it was completely all of that discourse was completely gone.
It's like, oh, you don't believe in the science?
You want to kill grandma?
Like, you're not getting vaccinated.
Like, you're done.
Like, exactly.
You're not invited to Christmas anymore, Catherine.
Like, seems like the reasonable response.
And it totally makes sense, though.
We were trapped in our home.
Some people were trapped in their homes listening to various conservative commentators.
Some others, it was every CNN and CBC.
Yeah, so on both sides.
Exactly.
Absolutely.
So there wasn't a lot of well-roundedness.
And it was, it's fair.
I mean, of course, people were just, they wanted to know what was going on with the world.
It was a, it was an uncertain time.
But then you like, exactly.
You have, like, if you're one of the people not just mentioned listening to CBC or the opposite or whatever, you are being inundated.
Is that the word?
Yeah.
And with a message that you are, you should be scared of your fellow man.
Like, were you ever walking on the sidewalk?
And they crossed the street.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
That was so normal back then.
People were crazy.
They were crazy.
People were yelling at each other in elevators.
Yeah.
Like yelling.
Yeah.
Things that you would never have done.
You would only do that on Twitter in the past, but now people are screaming at each other in their, like, I had a lady.
I had a, like, I have a really bad back sometimes.
So sometimes I use a cane.
Like, it's very rare.
But sometimes I need my cane.
It's terrible.
It's embarrassing.
So this one time I had to use my cane and in my apartment building, you were during COVID, you had to go downstairs to get your food dropped off like from the DoorDash.
Yes, they wouldn't bring it up.
They wouldn't bring it up.
So I asked the guy, the DoorDash guy, to bring mine up to me because I was crippled.
And there was a lady in the lobby when the guy tried to come in and use the elevator and she yelled at him.
And so the guy calls me, the Uber delivery driver calls me and he was like, oh, there's a, I can hear her in the background yelling.
There's a woman here.
She won't let me get in the elevator.
I was like, I was like, fine, just leave the food there.
I'll come get it.
So I waited five minutes because I was like, I want her to go away.
Yeah.
So I get my cane, I hobble down in the elevator.
Like I'm literally like, this is crippling pain.
Get out of the elevator.
And this woman in a mask right up in my face, like two feet from my mouth is like, is this your food?
Is this your food?
And I was like, yeah.
She's like, don't you know the rules?
And I was like, don't you see my cane?
Where's the humanity?
I was like, I can't walk.
Like, where's the humanity?
She was horrible.
But that's crazy.
And that's something masks did.
And I think we've talked about this before, just how that like it like empowers you to be bolder because you're hidden.
You're in a mask.
You're anonymous.
So you're able to say things that you wouldn't normally say.
That's that's like being on Twitter.
You're able to say things you wouldn't normally say in the public sphere because you are an anonymous troll.
But like the fact that we've got to get to this point where there's just, you're not a human being to her anymore.
You're just an anti-mask or anti-vaxxer or just you're breaking the rules.
You're going to kill grandma.
Well, it's like, lady, just leave the freaking lobby.
Like you're spitting particles in my mouth right now.
It's just so insane that they've minimized people to be just these labels.
And it's like, man, like you are human beings.
Like you, like, I can't even fathom how it's come to this.
No, but we're all in this together.
Yeah.
Remember that?
Remember how fast that went away?
Oh, yeah.
It was like, we're all in this together unless the list is too long.
Yeah.
So we're all in this together over here and you guys can just die.
Yeah.
As per the Toronto star.
And the government did this to us.
Yeah.
The government did this to us.
So politicians are to blame.
Yes.
And the media, legacy media went right along with it.
And everyone went along with it.
Celebrities, our institutions, our once trusted institutions, although I feel liberated knowing that we shouldn't trust them now.
And then you see someone like Justin Trudeau, who has literally called out Rebel News by name, saying that we are the cause of division in Canada.
Like, what?
No.
Like, what are you talking about?
You literally said, like, those people, those disgusting, unvaccinated people, like, they shouldn't be allowed to do this.
And then they're like fringe minorities.
But Rebel News is causing division in Canada.
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We need to shut down their misinformation, even though the things that we said six months ago are now proving to be true.
Yeah, not just out loud.
And the mainstream media is saying it all out loud.
Like, so many people are coming out being like, hey, by the way, they were maybe right.
Those tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.
Maybe they were a little bit right.
Yeah.
Maybe.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
That's okay.
Anyways, I guess for sure.
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As long as we don't repeat the same outfit on the same day.
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In order?
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