Ezra Levant revives Ethical Oil, arguing Canada’s oil sands could replace Russia’s $100B+ annual exports to Europe, undermining Putin’s war funding—yet pipelines like Keystone and Transmountain were blocked. Meanwhile, nurse Amy Hamm fights back against her college’s politically charged investigation, fueled by anonymous complainants and dropped medical inaccuracies, refusing a gag order and vowing Supreme Court battle. In Montreal, protesters clash with Trudeau over emissions deals and Azov Battalion ties, accusing police of silencing dissent while he dodges accountability. Levant’s push for ethical oil and Hamm’s defiance expose systemic failures: economic hypocrisy and freedom suppression under progressive governance. [Automatically generated summary]
I don't know if you remember, but 11 years ago, I won a prize.
I won the National Business Book Award of the Year, and I'm not even really a business writer.
And it wasn't just like a Cracker Jackbox prize.
This was a juried prize.
Peter Mansbridge was the head of the jury.
I was so certain I wasn't going to win.
I wasn't even listening to him when he announced the winners.
I heard my name.
I shouted, what?
I'll tell you that story, and I'll tell you a little more about the book that won it for me, Ethical Oil, The Case for Canada's Oil Sands, because I have decided it's time to bring back ethical oil, the project, the campaign.
Because since we didn't do that 10 years ago, Germany and other parts of Europe are still importing their oil and gas from conflict regimes like Russia instead of from ethical places like Canada.
If only Trudeau had let the pipelines be built.
I'll tell you about my thoughts in today's show.
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All right, here's today's podcast.
Tonight, is it time to bring back ethical oil?
It's July 12th, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
I saw this big headline front page of the Globe and Mail today.
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I don't know if you saw it.
It goes, Canadian envoy, that means diplomat, summoned by Kiev over Russian turbines.
Zelensky, that's the head of Ukraine, calls equipment export plans an absolutely unacceptable exception to sanctions.
That was their news story.
And then they published this commentary in the Globe and Mail also.
Ottawa says it stands with Ukraine.
Its decision to return turbines to Russia suggests otherwise.
And here's the first two paragraphs, which sum up the news pretty well.
This is from the commentary.
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky was right when he said that Ottawa's decision to skirt its own sanctions law and send Nord Stream 1, that's the name of a pipeline, gas turbines back to Russia via Germany was, quote, absolutely unacceptable.
The six Russian turbines that the German company Siemens Energy had been servicing in Montreal, but which became stranded owing to sanctions on Moscow, had been a bilateral irritant between Ottawa and Kiev for some time.
The Russian government had claimed that the missing equipment was the reason it reduced the flow of natural gas to Germany through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, prompting Berlin to press Justin Trudeau's government for the turbine's release.
But this week, Canada actively amended its own sanctions laws in order to return them to Germany, which will then turn them over to Russia.
Now, I'll skip a bit, but I thought this next paragraph was pretty punchy.
And you tell me what you think of this.
Put aside your thoughts on Russian Ukraine.
I think this is a factual statement.
You tell me what you think of it.
Oil and gas exports on average generate more than $100 billion a year for the Kremlin, which in turn helps fund its invasion of Ukraine.
Russia is incredibly unimportant in the global economy except for oil and gas, economist and Obama White House advisor Jason Furman told the New York Times, it's basically a big gas station.
What do you think about that?
You know what?
Statistically speaking, he's right.
Obviously, there are lots of minerals and there's lots of agriculture.
But in terms of just foreign exports, oil and gas are the thing.
Russia is pretty much tied for first place, a three-way tie with Russia, the United States, and Saudi Arabia.
All are making about 10 million barrels a day.
And Russia is huge into natural gas.
Gazprom, you've probably heard of it.
It's the world's largest gas company, natural gas, that is.
And that's what they're talking about, the Nord Stream pipeline.
All this gas goes to Europe.
And I mean Western Europe.
I mean Germany and other countries.
So do they mean it or not, these sanctions?
Now, I wrote two books about this strange thing, this phenomenon of buying oil and gas from your enemies.
First one was called Ethical Oil, The Case for Canada's Oil Sands.
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It was about ethical oil versus conflict oil.
And then I wrote a book called Groundswell.
I just want to talk about that for one minute because I used to really focus on that.
It was the number one thing I talked about.
I wrote the book more than a decade ago.
Obviously, since then, a lot of things have changed in the world, including my position.
I'm now with Rebel News.
And we talk about many things.
In the last two years, we've talked about the pandemic, the lockdowns, the civil liberties fiasco.
But if you've ever been to my office, and we don't have a lot of visitors around here, I have a few things hung up on my wall that I'm proud of.
And I took two things off the wall and I brought them into the studio.
I don't know if you'll be able to see this.
This is on my wall.
And I don't think it's vanity.
It's more a remembrance of what I thought was an achievement.
My book, Ethical Oil, actually won the National Business Book Award of the Year in 2011.
It was a jury that made the decision.
Peter Mansbridge was the head of the jury.
The sponsor, a couple of banks sponsored it, plus the Globe and Mail.
I was so stunned when I won.
I was invited because I was a finalist and I thought there's no chance I'm going to win.
I went to this thing because I thought, all right, you know, I should, out of courtesy, go to the lunch.
It was at a fancy lunch.
It was at the four seasons.
Michael Ignatieff was right in line there.
Like, I thought, boy, am I out of my element?
And I thought, oh, grumble, grumble, grumble.
Why am I wasting my time here?
And then I heard Peter Mansbridge say, and the winner is Ethical Oil by Ezra Man.
I remember that moment.
My reaction was, what?
I didn't even say hooray because I was practically ignoring him because I thought, I don't even know why I'm going through the motions.
And my reaction when Mansbridge said I won was, what?
No way.
And I got up there and I just couldn't believe it.
And I told some jokes, but I won.
And I went on to create something called Ethical Oil, the advocacy group, a website, and it was a big thing.
I actually, I want to show you one more thing that I hang on my wall because I'm proud of it.
Now, this is a little harder to see.
I trademarked it, Ethical Oil.
And the reason I did that is I don't think I would have thought of trademarking the word ethical oil other than environmental activists, when they saw my book's success and they saw I had set up this website, ethicaloil.org, and that I was really fighting that project.
They tried to register that trademark so I couldn't use that.
Those environmentalists are so tricky, I had to go to court to protect the rights to ethical oil because someone else had seized it and tried to trademark it.
I tell you that as a reminder to myself and to you, actually, that I've been thinking about this issue of ethical oil versus conflict oil for more than a decade.
And just to sum it up, I used a tactic that I think was effective, even though it's being denounced by the left.
I think that's why they denounce it.
Instead of talking about oil and gas from a right-winger's perspective, I tried to use the language of the left.
I talked about an imaginary young grad student named Zoe, who, you know, vegetarian activist, you know, peace activist, someone really progressive.
What would she care about?
Not what do I care about.
And I really listened to the critics, the good faith critics of the oil patch, and they had four things they seemed to care about.
The environment, obviously.
Peace, obviously.
The treatment of workers.
How well are they paid?
Are they safe?
And finally, even though we sort of take it for granted, civil liberties, treatment of minorities, a religious minority or indigenous people or women, or if you're gay.
Those are the four things that this imaginary person I called Zoe cared about in the world.
Environmental responsibility, peace, as in you're not using the proceeds of oil to wage a war or terrorism.
Economic justice, as they would say, you know, are you paying people a minimum wage?
Are you paying people a living wage?
Compare people who what they earn in the oil patch to you know people in Nigeria or Dubai.
And finally, civil rights.
So don't even get me started on the difference between civil rights here and in many OPEC regimes and Russia.
So in my book, Ethical Oil, and I gave a ton of speeches on the subject.
It really used to be my thing.
I said Canada's oil sands oil, when you compare it to any other alternative, not some fantasy fuel of the future that hasn't been invented yet, like that movie Avatar, where they talked about unobtainium, this perfect energy source, perfect in every way other than it's not real.
If you're going to fill up your car with gas next week, it's going to come from gas, not from a mystery fuel.
And that gas comes from oil that comes from somewhere.
And if it's not coming from Canada or the United States, two of the most ethical places in the world, it's coming from odds are a dictatorship or a warmonger.
Look at the countries in OPEC.
Russia is not in OPEC, but it's one of the largest producers.
Venezuela, Nigeria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan.
So if you are not getting oil from Canada, you're getting it from a place that is terrible, that treats its own citizens terribly.
And I said that Canadian oil is the fair trade coffee of the world's oil industry.
The book did well because it didn't challenge the left on their beliefs.
It accepted them.
It held them to their own standards.
And I must have given 100 speeches on that book across the country and even in Europe.
I remember I gave a speech in Frankfurt and a speech in Munich.
It was actually translated into German.
People had never heard that point of view before.
And I did a lot of speeches in the oil patch itself, even in Calgary, even in oil companies.
And sometimes people say, well, why are you wasting your time talking to the true believers?
And I said, no, actually, that's the crazy thing.
Within these oil companies are often people who have bought the line that oil is evil and we need to transition out of it.
They felt like they were working for a tobacco company.
Oh, it's so disreputable.
Oh, it's so terrible.
I'm ashamed I worked there.
In fact, oil is not evil at all.
Oil and all other sorts of fossil fuel energy lift us out of poverty and keep us warm in the winter, cool in the summer, allow us freedom to drive and move and lower the cost of living and bringing food to market.
Everything we touch is because of fossil fuels.
Imagine life without an ambulance or a fire truck that runs on fossil fuels.
Maybe one day we'll get that on Obtainium.
Maybe one day Tesla cars will be able to go a little further and they'll be recharged on something other than coal-fired electricity.
Maybe one day.
Maybe they'll be affordable one day.
But my point is, until that happy day comes, you're buying gas.
Now, whether or not that gas is made from Canadian oil or Saudi oil is up to us.
That's the thesis of ethical oil.
And it applies even more so to gas as a natural gas.
Because Europe, contrary to Ronald Reagan's warning 40 years ago and contrary to Donald Trump's representations even the last few years, buying your oil and especially your natural gas from Russia is crazy.
But they did anyways.
You know, today, funny thing happened today.
Let me read you this tweet.
This tweet's from yesterday, I think, or maybe it was a couple days ago.
The tweet a couple days ago said, tomorrow, Russia will take Nord Stream 1 offline.
That's this big gas pipeline that these turbines are going back to.
There will be a major potential for escalation of the geopolitical and energy crisis.
So here's a thread on why not to panic now when you might want to, and just one on earth is EU regulation 2017-1938.
If those turbines hadn't gone back to Germany and on their way back to Russia, it absolutely would have had a shocking domino effect.
And I'll tell you about that.
Now it still might.
Vladimir Putin still might say, oh, we closed this pipeline for maintenance and we discovered all these problems.
And I'm sorry, Germany, you get 40% of your energy from Russia, but we have to turn it off.
They would have done that for sure had Trudeau not agreed to send the turbines back to Germany, back to Russia.
And that's the point.
Are sanctions only going to be deployed if they're easy and cost-free?
Or are you going to deploy sanctions at some cost?
Now, it wouldn't have been a big cost to Canada to keep those turbines, but it would have flattened Germany's economy.
Imagine if Russia said, sorry, mate, we're not turning the gas pipeline back on.
Why don't you make do with some more wind turbines?
So Canada is unserious about sanctions, and Germany is unserious about sanctions.
If the only way you do sanctions is if you make them cost-free, if you really aren't as brave as you are in your photo ops, then you'd better get Western Europe, Germany in particular, and other countries off of conflict oil and replace it with Canadian ethical oil.
If you're serious, you know, Trump said this.
They laughed at him.
He talked about energy independence.
He talked about how insane it was buying your energy from Russia.
said that in September 2018 when he went to Germany.
Look at this headline in the Washington Post.
They're so, so proud of themselves.
This is the Washington Post.
Trump accused Germany of becoming totally dependent on Russian energy at the UN.
The Germans just smirked.
And the Washington Post smirked along with them.
I don't think Trump accused anyone of anything.
He said, guys, you're crazy to rely on Vladimir Putin for your gas.
They said, no, we're smirking, you dummy.
Now, here we are in 2022, and Trudeau gives the turbines back, which is the right move.
Because really, does Canada want to destroy Germany's economy?
Let Germany decide whether or not to destroy Germany's economy by deciding to no longer buy Russian gas.
They can do that, but they don't really mean it.
Trudeau is one of the few world leaders who could actually help with the underlying problem.
But he refuses.
He could build oil and gas pipelines, oil pipelines to the coast.
He could build fracking and allow natural gas in those special ships called LNG, liquefied natural gas.
We could actually ship both oil and gas to Europe, including to Germany.
Ethical oil, not conflict oil.
Oil that we would be prepared, created, produced, drilled, exported with those four things that Zoe cares about.
Environmental responsibility, peace, the treatment of workers and civil rights, as opposed to Russian natural gas.
Environmental responsibility, you think Russia cares about the environment?
Peace?
No, they're invaders.
Treatment of workers?
Yeah, I don't think they get paid well in Russia.
And civil rights, so don't even get me started.
Russia, their population and their economy are both one-tenth the size of China.
If we're not serious about putting sanctions on Russia, how would we ever be serious about putting sanctions on China?
It goes to the cowardice of our population, of our political leaders.
We're not serious about any discomfort, are we?
But we could actually do what Trump did.
We could actually do what Harper was trying to do.
Get our oil and gas to market to free the world, to give people a choice.
India and China will always buy oil from Russia and Iran.
They don't care.
But for places like Germany and others that do, why don't we give them an ethical alternative?
The oil sands, Canada has about 171 billion barrels of oil, of which 166 billion are in the oil sands.
It's like almost all of it.
There is some offshore and there is some fracking.
That is stranded.
Because Joe Biden canceled the Keystone Excel pipeline that was going to bring 800,000 barrels a day down to America.
That could theoretically have gone on to export.
But Trudeau himself and Gerald Butts canceled the Northern Gateway pipeline that would have gone to the West Coast, the Transmountain pipeline that would have gone to the West Coast.
It was actually already there.
It was just going to be expanded in size.
And the Energy East pipeline, which would have taken Alberta energy all the way to New Brunswick, which, by the way, is Canada's largest refinery.
Right now, they refine foreign oil, including, I don't know if they still do in the last few months, but they've been refining Russian oil for years.
That's the only permanent solution.
And it's a win-win-win.
It's a win for Canadian oil and gas producers.
It's a win for the billions of dollars making the pipelines.
It's a win because you get secure, ethical oil into Canadian markets.
You're not importing it from the United States, as oddly enough, we do out east, or from OPEC.
And it's a win for the world because every barrel of oil that you buy from Canada is one barrel of oil less than you buy from Russia, Iraq, Iran, Nigeria, Sudan, Venezuela.
It's $100 more to Alberta and to Canada, and $100 less to the bad guys.
So I was thinking about this when I saw this incredibly obvious and easy to predict dilemma on the front page of the Globe and Mail today.
The Globe and Mail wasn't actually mad about turbines.
They weren't actually mad about Germany.
Those were the outward expressions of the problem.
The deeper problem is what they smirked at Donald Trump about, is that the West is dependent on Russia.
Now, don't get me started about how dependent we are on China.
But it is true.
Russia is a gas station for Europe.
Natural gas, oil, and the things that come from oil.
That is not going to stop by building some wind turbines.
You don't drive a car based on wind turbines.
You don't heat your home with wind turbines.
That will only stop if Canadian ethical oil can get to market.
And I mentioned that I sort of saw this coming.
And I gave speeches a decade ago when I made a lot of fun of Vladimir Putin.
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I wrote a book about it.
I gave speeches about it.
I have some activism and did some punditry.
I've got the trademark to show it.
And so I saw this today, and I thought, I think I'm going to revive ethical oil.
As in, 10 years ago, I set up this little NGO.
We had a website.
We had a spokesman.
We did little campaigns.
It was fun.
It was small.
It was a part-time thing I was doing as a volunteer while I worked at Sun News.
It still did some great stuff.
Then I got busy with rebel news and I sort of focused on other things.
But don't you think it's important to bring it back now?
Here's what I mean.
What would it mean to revive ethical oil on our website, ethicaloil.org?
That was my website back.
But what would it mean to do that now?
Well, I think it would do journalism, right?
I mean, back then when I was at Sun News, I wasn't the boss.
I didn't command a team of journalists.
I just had my nightly show.
And sure, I talked about ethical oil.
But now I got rebel news.
We got 70 people here.
We got well over a dozen reporters in Canada alone.
We could make the oil beat a full-time beat.
I mean, everyone could talk about it, but we could hire a full-time ethical oil journalist to talk about these stories, not just of ethical oil and gas in Canada, but to contrast it with conflict oil from Russia, Nigeria, Iraq, etc.
And that quickly got me thinking, well, you know what we did just the other month, and it was a great success.
We made a documentary film.
I don't know if you heard about that.
We made a film called Trucker Rebellion, the inside story of the Coots blockade.
And not only was it a hit at our premieres, but it's been showing in movie theaters every week.
A few, but it's a great start.
What happens if, what would happen if we did something I didn't have the resources to do 10 years ago?
What if we sent a great Rebel News documentary camera crew, bear with me, around the world to document the difference between ethical oil and conflict oil?
To go to Nigeria and look at the pollution.
To go to some of the Gulf states and look at how the indentured workers are paid nothing while the Saudi princes polish the gold on their Rolls-Royces.
I don't think I would send our people into Russia, too dangerous, but maybe into Venezuela.
to look at where conflict oil comes from and to go to Germany and show how on their knees they are and to the Baltic states, which even get more from Russia.
Wouldn't it be great to have a theatrical quality, cinema quality documentary on ethical oil?
Do it right.
Travel to those places with a great camera crew and do a theater quality documentary called Ethical Oil.
Things that I wish I could have done a decade ago had I had the tools.
Hire a full-time investigative reporter on the ethical oil beep to look into the critics of ethical oil.
Who's funding them?
Who's directing them?
I think there's a lot of things ethical oil could do now using the strength of Rebel News and the tools that we have and the team that we have and the experience that we have that I couldn't really do a decade ago when I just wrote the book and had sort of this little volunteer group that I had set up as a part-time hobby.
I've still got the trademark.
I've still got the book.
I should revise and update the book.
And I thought about this when I was reading that story on the front page of the Globe and Mail because the Globe and Mail, just like those Germans to Donald Trump, they smirked and sneered at the idea of ethical oil.
Ha!
Ethical oil!
No such thing!
Really?
Maybe 10 years ago, if they would have supported the idea of ethical oil and promoted the pipelines to the coast, both for oil sands oil and for Canadian fracked natural gas, instead of having to give the turbines back to Germany to give back to Russia, it wouldn't even be an issue.
Because instead of a Nord Stream 1 pipeline, we'd have Canadian pipelines to the coast and then LNG ships and oil tankers taking Canadian ethical oil to Germany.
They smirked at Donald Trump and they smirked at ethical oil.
Well, the only person smirking now, thanks to that anti-development philosophy, is Vladimir Putin himself.
Well, I think I'm going to do it.
We're going to start it up.
EthicalOil.org.
That's the website I used for my little NGO a decade ago.
I want to raise a budget to do the documentary film and to do it properly, to travel to those places around the world with a team, not just one or two guys, but like four guys, to do it right, to have something that's so high quality, movie theaters will say we've got to have that.
I think that film alone could be $100,000 or $150,000, including travel, to have a beautiful theatrical quality movie called Ethical Oil.
I want to hire a full-time reporter on the beat, maybe two, including that investigative journalist I talked about.
That's another $100 some thousand dollars a year too.
I want to get back into the ad project, you know, billboards and leaflets and pamphlets reminding people how nasty conflict oil is.
You know, one of the things I talked about back when I ran ethicaloil.org was we have country of origin labeling for almost everything in our life.
You know what I mean?
If you look at the tag on your clothing, it says where it was made.
If you look at every toy, every tool, your food has country of origin labeling.
Almost everything you buy has country of origin labeling.
And so if you care, you can choose.
You can try and not use something made in China.
Good luck with that.
But the one thing that doesn't have country of origin labeling on it, and you know why, is gasoline.
Because if you had one gas station on this side of the road advertising 100% ethical oil made in Canada, gasoline, and on the other side, you had our gasoline made from oil from Saudi Arabia and Kazakhstan.
If the price was equal, you'd go to the Canadian oil.
And in fact, some people would probably buy the Canadian oil even if it was more expensive, which it shouldn't be, of course.
Now, some people wouldn't care.
Some people would buy the cheapest oil in the world because they're on a budget and they just can't afford to care.
Okay, well, that's no worse off than we are right now.
But why don't we have country of origin labeling?
Do you really want to buy oil and gas products that come from Russia or Saudi Arabia?
Especially if you have an ethical alternative in the form of Canada.
So I want to revive ethicaloil.org as the website that hosts these things.
I ran it a decade ago and I think we made a dent.
I think we made a difference, even if the Globe and Mail smirked about it.
Now, we've got to do it, and we've got to do it with the tools at our disposal.
I didn't have the email lists.
I didn't have the viewers on the YouTube channel.
I didn't even have a YouTube channel back then.
I want to revive the Ethical Oil Project.
I want to do it as a journalistic project, as a documentary project, and as a campaign project, like we've done with so many things.
If you believe in this idea too, go to ethicaloil.org and let's get going.
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Stay with me for more you ever see this billboard in Vancouver Now, if you don't live in Vancouver, you probably didn't, but the images of this billboard went viral.
I heart, I love J.K. Rowling.
Now, millions, hundreds of millions of people love J.K. Rowling.
Her series, Harry Potter, was one of the most popular series ever written.
The movies were huge blockbusters, too.
A lot of people do love J.K. Rowling, but that was not the rationale behind that sign.
That was a statement that J.K. Rowling's form of feminism meant distinguishing between true biological women and what are called trans women, ex-men, as you might say.
People who say, I was born a man, but I identify as a woman, and maybe I'll get my twig and berries cut off, but I want you to treat me as a woman.
J.K. Rowling and other old school feminists say, yeah, you are something, and you were perhaps not a man, as you claim you're not, but you are not the same as a woman.
Well, J.K. Rowling was thrown down the memory hole for that.
In fact, some of her stars of her movie denounced her and said they would not make more Harry Potter films if the creator of the series herself was involved.
There is a slur.
TERF is the word, trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
The word turf is a hostile term for feminists like J.K. Rowling, but it's also a rallying cry for others who want to understand there is a difference between men and women, and men should not be able to crowd out women from existence.
Well, our next guest had the audacity to put up that billboard in Vancouver, and instead of being met with debate, she was met with an investigation with legal power over her by her profession.
She happens to be a nurse, and she was investigated by that body.
It's ongoing.
Joining us now via Skype from New Westminster, BC is Amy Hamm.
Amy, what a pleasure to have you on the show.
Thanks very much.
Hi, Ezra.
Thank you.
It's nice being here.
Well, it's my pleasure.
You know, when I was a younger man, there were debates over the gender wars, feminism, and men.
And I mean, it was a lively debate.
And, you know, what was called a radical feminist maybe was a challenge to patriarchy or whatever.
But I think the lines are completely redrawn.
I find myself in moral alignment with people who might be called radical feminists or TERFs, as the other side says, simply because I believe women are women and women ought to have their spaces, whether it's a bathroom or a change room or a girls' sports team or something.
I find myself in league with people who maybe 30 years ago I would have sparred with.
It's very strange.
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on these days with people calling themselves politically homeless and aligning or working with people that they never thought that they had, you know, that they had shared principles with before.
And now it happens so much because of kind of this postmodern woke stuff that has taken over our culture and the backlash is coming from all sides of the political spectrum.
Well, why don't you tell me a little bit more about that billboard?
I mean, it couldn't be simpler.
I heart J.K. Rowling.
And frankly, an enormous number of people do.
They love her creativity, the sort of fictional fantasy world.
There are people for whom the Harry Potter series is almost like a cult obsession.
It's like some people used to feel the same way about Star Trek, like that's a code for living or something.
Like she is deeply loved, and those books have an uncanny hold on, I'd say, a whole generation.
Imagine throwing her out and not being able to say I love J.K. Rowling because she's a feminist.
It's shocking, and that's why I wanted to get involved in this in the first place: because there's a public conversation to be had about gender identity ideology.
And the fact that if you put up something as innocuous as an iHeart JK rolling billboard, and then it causes the city council in Vancouver to accuse you of hate speech, it causes you to get tens of thousands of hateful and abusive messages and threats.
I think that has the effect of showing a lot of people how toxic this debate actually is.
So that was what I wanted.
I wanted to start conversations.
And then what ended up happening was that got a lot of attention, and some members of the public complained to the nursing college, which gives me my license to practice as a nurse.
These people found out what I did for a living, and they're trying to cancel me and take away my career because they disagree with my politics.
And so, to be clear, 100% of this investigation and upcoming disciplinary hearing is about what I do outside of work.
I've never had a patient complaint ever.
It's 100% about thought crimes that I've allegedly committed.
Yeah, I mean, I have trouble even processing it.
By the way, our friends at the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom, that's John Carpe's Civil Liberties Group, are helping Amy, and I couldn't be more proud of them for rising to the occasion to stand for Freedom of Thought.
I believe there should be professional ethics governing professions like doctors and nurses and lawyers and engineers.
There's elements of public safety.
When you say you're a doctor or a nurse, that implies you have certain credentials.
I think that's wise.
And I think that doctors or nurses who engage in medical malpractice should be investigated.
We saw that abused a bit during the pandemic quite a bit.
Anyone who had a dissident opinion on the virus was investigated for really political crimes.
But what you said wasn't even touching on health at all.
You know, when they investigate Dr. Roger Hodkinson for his views on the coronavirus, well, at least you could say that's within the realm of medical stuff.
But you were giving a I Love JK Rowling poster has nothing to do with your job with the profession of nursing.
You are a nurse and they were coming at you through your profession for a completely unrelated matter, your political matter.
Yeah, so they investigated for a long time.
They compiled a report, more than 330 pages of tweets, articles that I've written, because this is a topic that I've been writing about and talking about and organizing events about for quite some time.
So they, yes, they compiled this evidence of my apparent wrongdoing.
And kind of the latest thing that has happened a few days ago, the Justice Center issued a press release because I had been accused of spreading medically inaccurate information.
And now the college has dropped that charge.
So kind of the only remaining charge against me right now is that I've said derogatory or discriminatory things about trans people, which I haven't.
I completely disagree.
It's bogus.
But I do feel partially vindicated that they're no longer saying that I've said anything medically inaccurate.
So the medical inaccurate part, that was they started combing through your political comments.
So it was so the big billboard was maybe the spark that made ah here's a dissenter.
We've got to crush her, destroy her, demoralize her, tire her out, burn up her money, burn up her time, put the fear of God in her, make her regret this, and poor encourage les otre, to let everyone else know you stand up to us and we will make your life hell.
I'm guessing that's what this was all about.
Yeah, I absolutely feel like I'm just being made an example of.
Meanwhile, you know, the complainants, I know the identity of one of them.
It's someone I've never met before.
I've never encountered this person, but describes themselves publicly as a Marxist and kind of a social justice warrior.
The other person who complained about me, they've been awarded the privilege of being anonymous.
So you can't face your accuser.
You don't know who it is.
And because they said I might retaliate, which is very insulting.
Yeah.
And if that were to happen, let you be faced with whatever concept, whatever retaliation means.
But the idea of facing your accuser, meeting your accuser, you don't know if it's someone who's had a personal vendetta.
You don't know if it's someone who has a collateral motive.
You don't know it is contrary to our system that the accusation is secret.
That is, that's a star chamber.
That is an un-Canadian sham.
That is not how justice is done in Canada or any of our judicial antecedents going back centuries.
Yeah, and my, obviously, I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of the legislation around Anonymous complainants, when you're talking about a healthcare regulatory body, is that the reason sometimes people are allowed to be anonymous is when there's an issue of patient confidentiality that you're trying to not violate, or a patient's life could be endangered in some way.
But from what I know, there's no reason that they should be allowed to apply this in my case.
I feel that I should know who this person is.
Yeah, it's nothing.
I mean, again, I can understand that maybe if you were doing something bad to a patient and the patient didn't want you to know that because maybe you would inject them with something.
I know I'm making up an insane scenario.
Okay, I get it in that extreme circumstance.
But like you said, this has nothing to do with your practice as a nurse.
It is so, it's so troubling.
Have you had, I mean, and again, I salute the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
They really take great cases.
Have you had any other support from the BC Civil Liberties Association, from any freedom of speech groups, from any nursing organizations?
I mean, you're being scrutinized by the college or whatever it would be.
Has your union, I take it you're part of a union, have they helped?
So when this all started, I did have the option of choosing a union-appointed lawyer.
However, I had reservations about that because I suspected that the BC Nurses Union would be similarly ideologically captured like the college was.
So I opted to reach out to the Justice Center, which I agree with you, amazing organization.
And then, as it happens in the months following that, and I've written about it, the BC Nurses Union tried to, on behalf of all of their members, so I wasn't consulted about this, but they pushed Justin Trudeau to pass the so-called conversion therapy ban legislation.
So obviously, I think I was correct in not trusting that I could use a lawyer from my own union.
And, you know, I've had another small issue that I can't get into, but they have not been helpful to me whatsoever.
Has anyone stood by me, asked you a question?
I think I know the answer in advance because I know the times we live in.
Has any political leader, any elected official, any MP, MLA, anyone whose job it is to weigh into public matters, have you had any, has anyone even said, you know, this makes me uncomfortable.
I don't know all the facts, but I don't like how it looks.
Even that kind of a tepid intervention.
Have you had anything like that?
Politicians, no, my actual, the writing that I'm in is an NDP riding, and my member of parliament, Peter Julian, has blocked me online and has for years now refused to speak to me or engage with me or discuss my concerns about gender in terms of like how it is impacting children in schools and local policies that change washrooms in our city, for instance.
He won't meet with me.
He had blocked me on Twitter previously.
And I had Lisa Bildy, who's my lawyer now, she wrote him a letter and kind of impelled him to unblock me on Twitter.
And then he's since blocked me again.
So, no, I have, I don't have any support.
I have support from a lot of the feminist community and sort of, you know, a lot of people who are heterodox sort of thinkers or centrists, and even as you mentioned, people that you would never think that you would necessarily align with before.
So there is a lot of support, but it's unofficial, it's grassroots.
No one from any establishment institution would you describe yourself aside from this issue, let's say before this issue, would you describe yourself as a woman of the left?
Yeah, I think i've always thought of myself as a lefty previously and um I, I don't anymore.
So you know that.
I think when you voted like you don't have to tell me if you don't want, but let's say, the first time you voted, did you vote NDP?
Yeah, you were an NDP.
Oh yeah, I used I, I was a longtime NDP voter.
I would absolutely never in my life would I ever vote for the NDP ever again.
They've sold the women down the river, you know, and that's what's odd, I mean, I remember when I was a young kid in college and I loved debating and I sparred with the feminists and um, I don't, even the difference between my view and the view of a feminist 30 years ago is so microscopic compared to the idea of should the concept of a woman be obliterated itself, be eradicated itself?
The Golden Age of Women's Sports00:05:59
It's, you know I, I suppose we were arguing over millimeters back then and now we're talking about miles and you know, I sometimes think, I mean I, I find it astonishing to look back at the history of women's sport and I didn't know that women were not allowed to run in the Boston marathon until less than a century ago, like very recently, I think, 73 72 73, something shockingly recent and like it's almost,
and and the Olympics and and competitive sports and sports and college, like women sports is so new and it's and the golden age of women in sports is pretty much.
It's not just Jk Rowling, I mean um, Martina Navritilova, the uh, and she's lesbian, so she's she's not anti-gay, she's certainly not anti-female, but she knows about women's sport and she knows about the difference between a male body and a female body and it's just, I feel like we're at the twilight of the age where women can be in sport.
I see these fellas, these ex-men competing and I I hate to see one guy or one trans woman and then two yeah, genetic women in second and third place, often looking dejected.
But I tell you amy, we're one year away from all three positions being trans men.
If one guy can do it, another guy can say oh, I can beat that guy, or I can at least beat those girls.
Yeah, and soon you're gonna.
All it takes is three guys and all three podium positions are gonna be fellas.
And if you want to say x-men or trans or whatever you want to say, it obscure and that's the thing.
The language, I don't know if you share my view about the book 1984.
It really is a story about language.
If you destroy the ability to, to speak plainly, you're actually.
It's a form of mind control, and when and and when you say you must call these people women or at least trans Women, and when you force people to say that, you're acknowledging that it's a lie, that you cannot convince them.
And so you have to punish them, and that's what they're doing to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, that's the thing.
And all that is left in their case right now is that maybe I've hurt some people's feelings, essentially, because I don't.
I refuse to play along with their language games.
I agree with you in terms of using someone's preferred pronouns in a professional setting as a matter of respect.
Of course, there are times when I do that, but for the most part, I'm just going to refer to a human as male or female.
Yeah.
These are very strange days.
I want to tell you on a personal note that I admire your strength and your courage and your resilience.
It is not easy to stand up to institutional power, especially one that controls your ability to earn a livelihood.
It's not easy to stand up to every official person and to not lose your mind when the world around you goes mad.
And I've been in that position myself, and I won't bore the viewers with my stories.
I think they probably know them.
I feel like I was built for conflict.
And I think you were built to be a nurse.
I mean, you seem like a caring person who, you know, I don't know you that well, but I don't think you were meant for, I don't think you chose to have a life of conflict and yet you were thrust into it.
And I admire the fact that you didn't simply say, to heck with it, I don't need this, just apologize and retract and get on with my life and slink away.
I have to say that I'm impressed with your decision to stand.
Thank you so much.
And I did have the option.
The college tried to get me to sign a consent agreement.
I would have had a temporary suspension on my license and had to have signed the statement of facts about having said transphobic things.
So to me, it was never, and there's just no way that I will ever do that.
So I don't know how far this case will go now that it looks like it's falling apart for them, now that they have dropped some charges.
But I definitely will take it as far as I have to take it.
And even if that is the Supreme Court of Canada, I don't care.
I will, I'm not taking any punishment when I haven't done anything wrong.
Well, I deeply admire what you're saying and what you're doing.
And I couldn't be happier that you're with the JCCF.
And it sounds like you had that win when they abandoned the spreading medically inaccurate information.
And I think that's an acknowledgement that they knew that was a stretch.
And I'm sure that you'll be victorious on the derogatory statements thing.
My God, if our charter of rights for freedom of speech means anything just absurd.
Amy, please keep us posted.
And I expect that you will in time win.
Bullies often expect an easy, short fight.
The fact that you're digging in your heels and you have allies, maybe they bid off more than they can chew.
And will you let us know when the next milestone is, when there's a hearing or a final result here?
Because if it's a victory, we want to celebrate with you.
And if it's a setback, we want to encourage you to appeal.
And we want to tell our friends to support the JCCF to help pay your bills.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you so much.
I'll keep you posted for sure.
All right.
Well, great to spend some time with you.
And we wish you all the best.
That's our friend Amy Hamm, a registered nurse in New Westminster, BC.
What an incredible story.
Stay with us.
More ahead.
Hey, welcome back.
World Economic Forum Insights00:11:58
Letters to me, Caroline Cavalcante says, it's incredible.
Everything this guy says makes sense.
Even if you are not part of the Conservative Party, you still have got to respect your money and spending.
And everything Pierre says makes sense, financially speaking.
You're talking about Pierre Polyev and his little video about inflation.
I thought he had a good command of the subject.
I thought he told it in an engaging way.
I thought throwing those items in the air was great.
Like he's got a sense of humor there, but he's not silly.
And I don't, and most importantly, he didn't talk down to people.
Justin Trudeau has this thing where he talks to you like you're a grade three, and it's very condescending.
And I think people are a little tired of him.
Wiferstee says, fantastic coverage, and there's virtually none in the legacy media on the story in Canada.
The only item I could find was a quick blurb on CTV about police finding at it firing at a tractor.
But if things get ugly, stay safe, Lewis and Lincoln.
You're talking about our tween to our team in the Netherlands.
I'm really glad they're over there.
It was a little expensive to get them over there.
Let me tell you one thing I think I might have mentioned to you.
You can't get into the Netherlands unless you're vaccinated.
They only, unless you're in the European Union.
So neither the United Kingdom nor Canada are you allowed to come from those places into Holland without a vaccine, except they have a specific exemption for journalists.
Did I tell you that?
So we applied to the embassy in both countries under their journalistic exemption.
And it's actually sort of beautiful.
It's written right on their embassy website.
They value freedom of the press and freedom of speech enough that they will put aside their COVID rules to allow unvaxed journalists in the country.
It's a special exemption.
It's not a conscientious exemption.
It's not a medical exemption.
It's none of that.
It's not a religious exemption.
It's if you're a journalist coming here to do journalism, we will let you in even if you're not jabbed.
Isn't that amazing?
I think that's very open-minded and liberal.
Compare that to us here in Canada under Trudeau.
Derek Ryan says, we also breathe around 70% nitrogen in our air with 21% oxygen and the rest, noble gases.
The nitrogen excuse is quite frankly ridiculous.
People are the power, not the people in power.
Yeah, I mean, I've just never heard of nitrogen is the problem before.
I mean, it really is the majority of air.
And even if there were some pollution, I mean, there are some nitrous oxides or NOx and SOX as they're called.
Yeah, is Holland really the world's largest polluter?
Or is this not like everything else where you can literally destroy your entire industry and in about six hours, China's dirty economic growth overtakes it?
I mean, what are they building 700 coal-fired power plants in China right now?
And you want to shut down your one to save the world?
It ain't going to happen.
It's not about saving the world.
If you're destroying just Holland's farmers and leaving the rest of the world, it's not about saving the world.
It's about destroying Holland's farmers.
And there's no good reason for that, but many bad ones.
That's our show for today.
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Hi, Prime Minister.
Just a fast question.
You know me.
Yes, yes, yes.
We spoke in the past in the summer.
Remember me.
I said, I said, Prime Minister's first question on Tamera List.
You preach.
You preach the whole wild world about freedoms.
How come freedom fighters for the convoy are still jail?
Why?
Prime Minister, any, any, any case, any answers?
Any answers for destructing the lives of so many Canadians for the last 20 years?
Prime Minister and the answers answer the people of Canada.
The capitalists are not.
Oh, they are pushing the plan to hide Mr. Trudeau.
They are pushing the plan for it.
Can you believe that?
I'm just gonna touch him.
At this moment, I'm going to go to the right side.
I don't touch him.
I'm going to go to the other side.
That's why I'm going to go to the other side.
You're going to go to the other side.
Don't touch him.
Now, the police are giving me an order to cross the other side.
Hey!
You're not going to touch him, monsieur.
I just want to remind you that we have already had a conversation with the SPV.
Votre nom, votre bâtiment.
Kukowski, c'est marqué le C084.
Bye-bye.
So here Alexa for Rouen Us, and I'm currently in Montreal.
And tonight we receive a tip that Mr. Trudeau was in Outremont for having a dinner with maybe co-worker or friend.
So we ran on the scene to see what is happening.
And what you can see behind me, police is there all around the restaurant.
They have a lot of citizens who are asking questions.
I'm going to take the chance to ask as well my question to them.
Let's check it out.
Mr. Trudeau, what you talk about, like Chef, I think I know, Mr. Trudeau, you will work, is that it in the new version of non-digital traveler identity that you signed with the World Economic Forum in 2006, Mr. Trudeau?
Pacific manifestations just self-aware with our manifesto, your normal racial issues.
Yes.
All of this is a private business.
And, I've asked you why, it's a private business.
It's a private business.
Well, Mr Trudeau might have been talking to people with questions.
It's possible to respect the other people around it.
Mr Trudeau...
Mr. Trudeau is supporting the new regulations, nitrogen, dazzles, and carbon dioxide that markets in diplomacy in the language.
Est-ce que vous le supportez, les régulations, M. Trudeau?
Ah, mais ça le prend le premier ministre qui se promène en jet.
Qui se promène en jet.
On dérange le reste de nos clients, s'il vous plaît.
Si on peut juste me laisser travailler, ça sera...
Alors pourquoi ils ont pris une table à l'extérieur?
Si ils voulaient la privacité.
Moi, je suis juste dans le trottoir.
M. Trudeau, pourquoi vous n'écoutez pas une partie de votre peuple qui a des questions pour vous?
Ça fait quand même pourquoi.
Est-ce que vous soutenez la nouvelle régulation sur le nitrogène et la émissions de carbone que Marc Routet est en train de faire en Néphalène?
Mr. Trudeau doesn't want to answer to any question.
I tried to ask questions in French and in English just to see if he would answer.
And obviously, he's not doing it.
So we can see the nice meal that Mr. Trudeau is having, probably on our taxpayer and he's eating your money and is not answering the question that he should answer.
Tell me in my face that I'm a racist.
Mr. Trudeau, with the World Economic Forum, I've never been as close as Mr. Trudeau, but obviously he's not turning his face to watch or to try to have contact with me.
completely ignoring a part of the people that is on the street asking questions to him.
Mr. Trudeau, I'm going to repeat again, Tamara Leach, who is a pacifist, is taken in prison to have taken a selfie with another politician.
Are the liberals not supporting civil liberties now?
Mr. Trudeau, otherwise, you signed with the World Economic Forum, other queen non-digital traveler identity.
As you mentioned, Mr. Trudeau, when you were in chaos, and that people were in front of your education and you observed when we left Rifkin and all this communication, we could not vaccinate.
My mother is 100%.
It cannot be a carago because they cannot pay the vaccine.
And my mother who is a Canadian queen arrived here, which created this country, which was a political prisoner who was next political d'Orvaliva with a value and two standards in the middle, we lived.
It was trust-funded baby trucks, revived in Canadian titanium that the Canadians must live.
Okay, I will live, and it is my pension, and all the days.
Oh, they are pushing the plan to hide Mr. Trudeau.
They are pushing the plan for it.
Can you believe that?
So, it's like Mr. Trudeau, you treat your citizens by pushing a plant to try to hide behind you?
Mr. Trudeau, how many agreements did you make with the World Economic Forum when you went to Davos?
Mr. Trudeau, do you support what Mark Route is doing in Netherlands on the new regulation of the nitrogen and carbon emissions?
Do you support it?
Are you going to do the same here in Canada?
Are you willing to trade your beautiful meal tonight for bugs, Mr. Trudeau?
He's always ignored common citizens.
That doesn't disturb me too much.
It happens with a lot of politicians.
What disturbs me is that he has deprived us of freedom for years and he's funding neo-Nazis in Ukraine, sending our tax money to the Ukraine.
And he doesn't care.
He probably doesn't even know what Azov is.
Right?
So to me, this is a dictator, a dictator who is funding neo-Nazi units in Ukraine who are openly anti-Jewish.
And he does this in Outremont, which is a Jewish neighborhood.
This is just unbelievable.
So we have the president of the police now.
We see that the police are there for, I don't know, the protection of Mr. Justin Trudeau, but it seems that most of the people here, it's children.
Security Wants to Ticket Sidewalk Stayer00:12:58
Est-ce qu'on ne peut pas juste fermer dans la rue comme ça?
Ah oui?
C'est qui?
Et où?
Oui, c'est la réunion municipale.
Bonjour, maëlle.
Juste, attention, je veux juste me passer.
Avez-vous dit qu'elle n'était pas permis de rester dans la rue?
C'est pas ça que je lui ai dit.
Qu'est-ce que vous avez dit?
Vous pouvez vous répéter pour moi, s'il vous plaît, je vous le demande.
Pardon, qu'est-ce que la police vous a demandé?
Ils disent que je n'ai pas le droit de rester là.
Moi, j'ai dit que j'ai commencé à faire mon workout, puis ils m'ont dit qu'ils ne veulent pas me donner un ticket.
Puis là, je dis que je fais mon workout.
Dans la rue, je circule, mais apparemment, on n'a pas le droit de rester.
Juste si j'ai.
C'est un trottoir.
Monsieur, c'est un endroit public ici.
Apparemment, c'est un règlement municipal.
Il n'y a aucun règlement qui m'empêche de ne pas rester dans la rue en ce moment.
Est-ce que vous avez participé à Ottawa?
Je pense que lui a participé à Ottawa.
En ce moment, c'est un milieu qui est public.
You can't do it.
I don't know if it's the same.
If you refuse the circulation on the side, I think we can't see the thing and the other thing.
Now you're circling.
Let's go.
I'm going to call my lawyer.
We're going to see who you're going to have it.
I'm going to call my lawyer.
I'm going to call my lawyer.
I'm going to stay everywhere.
I'm going to stay here.
Why?
Because you repose that.
You're saying something.
I have to believe you.
I don't believe it.
Stop it.
Hey, you're in the ticket.
After something, we don't know.
It's my boss.
I don't want to put that in front of me.
It's a question of security.
If you don't understand, it's going to be an entrave.
Entrave on a public place?
Impossible.
You can't give a ticket without telling me which law.
Tell me the regulation numbers.
Okay, that's it.
What?
What do you want?
I just want to stand here.
Okay.
You will not stay there.
What are you going to do to me?
You're going to arrest me for that?
I'm going to give you a ticket for you.
No problem.
Okay.
Booked.
Book me.
No problem.
But what?
For standing on the corner?
Don't have to give my ID.
I'm not driving a car.
You're in Frankfurt, sir.
But I don't have to give you an ID.
I'm not driving a car.
Okay, what is your name?
I don't have to tell you my name.
You can stand on the sidewalk.
You shouldn't stand on the street as shaywalking.
No, it's a sidewalk place.
You have the right to be on the sidewalk, and we're already suing the SPVM.
Yeah.
I'm happy to talk to them.
Unfortunately, I don't speak French.
They speak English actually to me.
Yeah, so I reject your demand that you get off the sidewalk and I'll sue them if they tell you if they touch you.
They want to give me a ticket if I'm staying.
And I'm happy to sue again.
I'm happy to talk to the police if you can fetch.
Yeah, you're allowed.
You can talk to them.
I don't want to talk to them.
June, I will.
Remove that from my face.
Just make sure you get the names of the police, Alexa, because we'll be suing them, their names and badge numbers.
OK.
We will take all their badge numbers and their name, because what they are asking is, like, I'm not allowed by a municipal law to stand on the sidewalk where I'm allowed, because it's a public space.
So, what they are asking right now is not legal.
So we'll take all their names, and I will make them remember that we have already a lawsuit against the SPVM.
Donc, votre badge number, monsieur?
Monsieur de l'agence Santana, 5793.
5793.
Monsieur, badge number?
Je ne travaille pas.
Vous écoutez, vous ne travaillez pas.
Enlève ça de mon geste.
Monsieur, je vous demande votre badge.
Pour ma sécurité, j'aimerais ça que tu recules et que tu enlèves ça de ma face, s'il te plaît.
Je vous demande et je me recule, mais j'ai besoin de votre badge, number 1.
Votre numéro de badge, monsieur.
Monsieur, j'ai besoin de votre numéro de badge et votre nom.
Je n'ai pas d'affaires à vous, madame.
Je vous demande de vous identifier, monsieur.
Ça a été dit positivement.
Est-ce que tu l'as pris pour moi?
Non.
Now you can see they are arrested, like giving a ticket to this man because he didn't comply to move from the sidewalk.
You can see it.
This is a sidewalk.
This is not the street.
This is a public space.
We are allowed as a citizen to stand up in the public space because you have no reason.
We are not a threat.
We are not doing anything bad.
So, one I've been taking away for probably receive a ticket and we'll continue to ask our questions because we are therefore asking questions to Monsieur Trudeau because Mr. Trudeau doesn't give any answer to all the other parts of the citizen that are asking for answers.
Monsieur Trudeau, do you agree with Mark Route about the new regulation on nitrogen and carbon emissions?
Do you support it?
I'm doing my job.
This is my right to be on the sidewalk.
Why can I not stand here?
You've already explained why I can't be here.
We've explained it, it's a municipal rule.
There's no municipal rule.
You're in a way of flamming.
Because we're not going to flamming.
Thank you.
No, in fact, we don't touch first.
You don't touch me.
You're almost touching.
I'm not going to flamming.
I'm working, I'm doing my report.
I'm a reporter, I'm a journalist, I'm doing my job right now, I'm not just doing anything.
I'm not going to flamming.
You said I can't stand, so I'm walking.
OK, but not here, on the other side.
Hey, man!
Monsieur Trudeau...
You don't respond, it sounds like a rhyme.
Yes, well...
I'm here for doing my job.
Parfait.
On va vous demander de traverser l'autre côté, s'il vous plaît.
Non, sur quelle...
C'est un ordre.
Un ordre de pauvre.
Traversez, madame, s'il vous plaît.
Mais sous quelle raison?
Madame, je vous la demande.
Traversez l'autre côté.
Parce qu'un ordre vient nécessairement avec quelque chose.
Non, ne me touchez pas.
À ce moment-là, traversez.
Je fais mon travail de journaliste, monsieur.
Je ne vous toucherai pas.
Traversez l'autre côté.
Sur quelle raison?
Celle que c'est un ordre.
Un ordre?
La police vous donne un ordre, vous obéissez.
Ça finira.
Écoutez, ne me poussez pas.
Non, mais vous allez rentrer à travers ça en ce moment-là?
So now, the police are giving me an order to cross the other side.
Hey, vous n'avez pas le droit de me toucher, monsieur.
Je veux...
Just The police did push me, so we had an interaction.
I did nothing.
I was just doing my job as a reporter to ask questions.
They are pushing away everybody.
But if it would be the president of the United States, they would block up three blocks.
This is not security.
No, it's not security.
Anybody grab with a gun to start shooting, you know?
With their so-called SPV, I'm standing around.
This is not enough security.
Especially what's going on in this crazy world, you know?
You have shootings all over the place.
So, what is your thought of the fact that probably his meal that he's eating right now is the money of the taxpayer and is not going to answer any of your questions as citizen of it's not a fancy restaurant?
He's not eating in the you know a cheap restaurant, he's eating what the people eat, you know.
But what do you think about the fact that the police came, they give a ticket to someone that was just standing on the street?
They give a ticket, yes, you need security, you know.
This is not security, it's not security, but bags of meat empty bastards with meat in it.
That's it.
I'm just wondering, you're the security of Mr. Trudeau.
Yeah, don't ask if you know why the police is doing your job instead of you pushing away the people.
No comment on this.
No comment?
Because now you have no security around, but the police came, so the taxpayer money is using for having more security instead of you maybe standing there to protect the prime minister.
No, it's your point of view.
But why are you standing just in the street and not doing anything?
Not supposed to be paid for being like the security?
Or maybe not?
I don't know.
He seems to know better than me, so I don't know.
It's why I'm asking you the question.
You are so many.
No answer.
Explanation why you cannot stand on the street.
They said it's a regular regulation of municipality or something.
I don't know exactly what, but I asked them to give me a regulation number, they couldn't give it to me.
That's it.
And what do you think about all of that?
I told them that I think that they're bullies, and that's it.
Yeah?
And especially because we know that during the curfew, the acidic place was the most targeted.
What do you think about all of that?
And Mr. Trudeau doesn't answer any question.
I don't.
Mr. Trudeau, you can't talk to him.
Look, I can't talk because I'll be singled out afterwards as an acidic Jew saying my own personal opinion.
This is not, I'm not talking on behalf of anybody, but this is my personal opinion about Mr. Trudeau.
I think that what he's doing is really not right and it's not right to the people and he's not listening to the people.
But this is my personal opinion and I don't want people to start scapegoating the whole community because I said something.
So that's about it.
That's my personal opinion.
So no ticket, it was not fine.
They just say that they can give it to him a ticket, but he didn't do it.
They say that is a municipal law to not stand in the street and not doing anything.
This is again untrue because on public space you are allowed to stand as a free citizen in the street.
Not in the middle of the street but on the sidewalk.
Police is there asking people.
I'm really far away from you.
I ask you to stay on the sidewalk.
Yeah, but you have like a lot of people on this side.
What is the difference?
I'm about to make the move.
All right, so as you.
All right, please move.
Thank you.
Move again, actually, for the 10th time.
Thank you.
Oh, still, you see, they are pushing away the people that are just trying to stand somewhere and redirecting them the other side of the street.
So this is kind of incredible.
So Justin Trudeau just left the restaurant.
As usual, he did ignore everybody.
Took some selfie with some people who were in the restaurant.
And afterwards, the police did block the street for him to enter in the car.
So as usual, Mr. Trudeau doesn't want to be confronted on real questions.
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