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Oct. 5, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 5, 2016, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Greetings and welcome back.
Great to have you with us, my friends.
Rush Limbaugh here behind the Golden EIB microphone, the telephone number.
If you want to be on the program 800-282-2882, we have a new email address, El Rushmo at EIBNet.us.
And we are thrilled to have with us Governor Pence, Mike Pence, Indiana, Governor, running for vice president, fresh off the debate last night.
Governor, I have to commend you.
I don't know how you did it.
I don't know how you kept your composure last night.
That was some of the rudest beneath us.
I'm telling the audience all day, I thought the whole thing was beneath the dignity of the American people.
And you just handled it magnificently.
And how did you do it?
You had to just be, I don't know, burning, frustrating, frustrated at certain points, wanting to just pop out of that, but you didn't.
It was well done.
Well, first rush, coming from you, that's I'm very humbled by that.
Thank you very much.
And I just, the encouragement we received, we had a great rally in Virginia this morning, heading to Pennsylvania now on our campaign bus.
And it's just been very heartening to me.
But I think, you know, Mike, my goal last night was to really talk about the issues that the American people are focused on.
The vision Donald Trump has articulated to make America great again means a stronger America at home and abroad.
It means a Supreme Court that will uphold the Constitution.
And it also means that we're going to have the highest standards of integrity in the highest office in the land.
And I wanted to make that case for my running mate.
And I also wanted to draw the contrast.
But it was a vigorous debate.
But at the end of the day, I really do believe that Donald Trump won the debate.
Donald Trump's vision to make America great again won the debate.
And I truly do believe as we continue to carry his vision, that optimistic, forward-looking vision that we're going to drive for over the next 34 days and elect him as the 45th president of the United States.
Well, it's interesting and fascinating to hear you say that because I have been playing for the audience soundbites all day, reading various news stories, essentially saying that you did so well that you so overshadowed Trump that even though you won, he lost.
And it's fascinating, Governor.
No matter how well you guys do, they always turn it into a Trump loss.
That's just standard operating procedure with the national media.
But look, Donald Trump called me right after the debate to congratulate me.
And we actually talked a couple times last night.
And I'm very encouraged that some people think I won.
But really, I'm just telling you, I told the people in Virginia this today from where I sat.
Donald Trump won.
He really did.
It was Donald Trump's vision to make America great again.
It was Donald Trump's vision to end illegal immigration once and for all.
You know, the whole debate, I have to tell you, I thought the moderator did a good job of focusing on issues the American people really care about.
We had a vigorous conversation about economic growth.
And, you know, what was in high relief is that Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are going to raise taxes, and Donald Trump and I are going to cut taxes.
And the ability just to lay out to the American people, you know, the choice in this election, the failed foreign policy of which Hillary Clinton was the architect during her four years as Secretary of State.
And, of course, all of what has proceeded out of the Clinton Foundation, I just, these are all the things that this campaign has been taking to the American people.
It's the reason why Donald Trump is attracting record crowds all over the United States.
And as I campaigned with him and campaigned for him, I just truly do believe that this is a movement of the American people.
And it's a movement that speaks to the ideals that really have characterized your voice in your career throughout your many years in radio.
You truly are one of the most gracious and magnanimous.
I mean, for you to say what you just said, you are truly one of the, not about me, I'm talking to the moderator and other things that happened last night.
You are truly one of the most magnanimous and gracious men that we have in American politics today.
Because you have that knack, Governor, and I need to applaud you for it.
I don't have the ability to contain myself after an event like that, the way you do.
But let me tell you something else there.
I've been a friend for a long time.
See, I don't do the caffeine.
You do.
Or wait, it's the other way around.
I do the caffeine and you don't.
But look, here's another thing.
I have to tell you, I really was incredibly humbled to be on that stage last night.
I mean, when you think about my little family in my life, I mean, my grandfather immigrating to this country when he was my son's age, my mom and dad building a small business in a small town in southern Indiana.
For me to be there, I felt a great weight of responsibility.
But a few minutes before I went out, my wife looked at me and she said, just remember, this is about the American people.
This is about the country.
I mean, this country's in a lot of trouble.
And Donald Trump has really given voice to the aspirations and the frustrations of the American people, like no one in my lifetime since Ronald Reagan.
And for me to be some small part of that, being able to share his message, his vision, his passion, and the kind of president that he's going to be and make America great again is just.
Well, let me tell you something else they're saying.
I've got two more areas I want to explore with you if you have time.
One of the things they're saying, you laughed at the first one, where Trump's mad at you because you put pressure on him for making him have to work even harder this Sunday because you did so well.
And that he lost because you won.
Here's the third thing they're saying.
The third thing they're saying is you actually weren't trying to help Trump last night.
You already know Hillary's going to win.
So you were doing everything you did for 2020, Governor.
Your 2020 campaign began last night.
That's what they're saying in the drive-by media, Governor.
It's, you know, it is what we're used to.
I mean, look, I said in Virginia today at a rally, you know, most mornings I have to turn on the television with a stick.
You know, you just never know what's going on.
That's right, with a stick.
It's two-on-one every night.
Wearing latex gloves, exactly.
That's what Hillary Clinton's worked for.
And look, last night, again and again, what I sought to do was make sure people exactly what Donald Trump's vision to make America great was all about.
And I also wanted them to know what the choice was, what the other side was all about.
But I have to tell you, I thought the opportunity for us to really talk about solutions, a stronger America at home and abroad, compared to really the avalanche of insults coming out of Hillary Clinton's running mate last night.
And then they said that we were running.
Did you get that phrase insult-driven campaign?
I saw it.
I hope in some small way last night that I helped to point out that Donald Trump is the one who's articulating that optimistic, broad-shouldered vision that's going to revive our economy, rebuild our military, and have America standing tall in the world again.
But I promise you, the days that we have remaining in this campaign, we're going to continue to work shoulder to shoulder to elect this good man as the next great president of the United States.
We're talking with Governor Pence following his debate performance last night with Senator Kaine.
Governor, I want to share with you what I told my audience at the beginning of the program today.
What I saw last night in watching your opponent, it became clear to me that they are terrified of what you and Trump and a majority of the American people think.
They're terrified.
You were interrupted 72 times because they can't afford.
They do not trust to let the American people hear what you really think.
They're afraid of it.
They're not allowed.
Their purpose is to not permit you to actually speak the things that you believe because they don't trust the American people to elect them if they actually know what you and Trump and the rest of us stand for.
And that's what was outrageous.
And again, you dealt with it masterfully.
I really do believe that we need to make America more like Mike Pence again.
That's what I think.
After watching you last night, if American politics is what you were last night, then you'd have a lot more people with a lot more faith and trust in it.
And I'm not trying to embarrass you.
I really think that.
Well, Trump, I'm just staggered by that.
Rush, I'm very humbled by those words, but I will tell you I learned from Donald Trump every day.
And last night, the ability to be out on that stage, making the case for his vision, making the case for his leadership.
You know, a moment that I remember from the debate was when Elaine looked at me and she said, well, what's your strategy for dealing with a revived and more aggressive Russia?
And I just said strength.
I mean, what Donald Trump personifies is American strength.
I said again today in Virginia to be around him when the Kleeg lights are off.
You've known him for a long time.
You know I'm not exaggerating on this point.
The truth is the man embodies the American spirit.
He's freedom-loving, independent, willing to fight for what he believes in.
And I truly do believe, I truly do believe that when we elect Donald Trump as the 45th president of the United States of America, we'll make America great again.
And I couldn't be more humbled or more honored to be standing with him in this cause.
Look, I know where you're coming from.
You grew up in Indiana.
You're now the governor, and you find yourself on the biggest stage in American politics, a presidential campaign.
If it didn't humble you, you wouldn't be the kind of person that you are.
And it's all to your credit.
I think, Governor, you've got to know Ms. Trump quite well, obviously.
I still think a lot of people are making the mistake of trying to plug Donald Trump into what they think average, ordinary, everyday politicians are.
He's not a politician.
You made that point, Lynn.
He's not a politician.
And to try to plug him into that hole is to misunderstand who he is.
Such as, you know, when he gets attacked for this or that, he will fight.
He'll go right back at whoever does it instead of him.
That's who he is.
And it's, by the way, something the Republican Party has not been doing for enough years that Americans, Republicans, are frustrated by it.
So are you feeling good about where things are now that you're coming off the performance last night?
Your crowds are over the top, big and excited.
You still feel the same energy out there for the campaign as when it started?
Oh, it grows every day.
You know, Donald Trump, I talked last night.
He was in Nevada.
And this week, you're just seeing record crowds that are coming around him.
And even when I do little rallies out there on my own, 500 and 1,000 people that will come out and hear from me as I campaign for him.
It really is one of the things Donald says to me more often than anything else.
And that is, when we'll pull into a venue and you'll see the enormous crowds, you'll see the long lines.
He'll look at me and he'll just say, you know, Mike, this isn't about me.
This isn't about us.
He says, this is a movement, and it's about this country.
And it's about the American people.
And I think that's what people sense about him.
This is a man who the day he walks into the Oval Office, he will be their champion.
He'll fight every day to make the country great again.
And he'll fight for the American people and for our nation to stand tall on the world stage and to have the kind of economy that will deliver jobs and opportunities for this generation and the next.
Where are you today?
Where do you go the rest of the week and weekend?
Well, we didn't get too much sleep last night, but they put me right back to work.
I got on this campaign bus, and we had a great stop in Virginia, not far from James Madison University.
And now we're headed up near Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
And I just couldn't be more excited.
I mean, the enthusiasm that we're seeing out there, literally, as we canvass the country, it gives me great confidence that if all of us do all we can, if we recognize that it's two-on-one with the national media doing most of Hillary's work for her every day, we go out, we tell our neighbors and our friends that we can make America great again.
I really do believe that we're going to elect Donald Trump as the 45th president of the United States, and I'm going to work my heart out.
Congratulations, Governor.
It was well done last night, and I'm flattered to have you on the program again today.
Best of luck.
Thanks, Rush.
You bet.
Thanks.
That means the world coming from you.
All the best.
You bet.
Thank you.
Gets Governor Pence fresh off the debate last night.
He means it when he says he's humbled by this.
He really does.
He doesn't take this for granted.
It hasn't gone to his head.
And he's truly humbled by the position he finds.
This is rare air that these people breathe.
Running for president, running for vice president, being the nominee and the vice presidential nominee of your party.
It's really, really rarefied here.
As you know, there have been, what, 43, 44 presidents.
Some of them serve second terms, so there hasn't really been that.
It's a very, very small club of people.
Okay, got to take a brief time out here.
We'll come back and resume here on the EIB network.
Do not go away, folks.
Stick right with us.
Okay, the moderators for the next debate Sunday night are Anderson Cooper and Martha Raditz.
Did you see, did you see they tried to hire Anderson Cooper for Live with Regis and Kathy Lee, which, of course, now is live with, used to be Michael and Kelly, Kelly Ripa.
And Cooper turned him down.
I better not say what I'm thinking.
The final debate is Chris Wallace moderating.
That's October the 19th.
Oh, yeah, there's an.
I've got that here somewhere.
There's a feud that has developed.
Yes.
Rumor has it from media.
Rumor has it.
ABC and CNN are feuding hard ahead of next week's debate.
The powers that be have chosen to go with a town hall style setup and two moderators, Anderson Cooper, Martha Raditz.
Page six in the New York Post says that they're beefing.
Specifically, each one of them reportedly wants to be the one who hits Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump with the hard questions.
Page six reported that sources close to the two networks are describing the Washington meetings, both between both network producers, talent, and executives as acrimonious.
Here's the full quote.
Getting the two networks together has been a challenge.
They are feuding over petty things like who does each particular topic.
Both Anderson and Martha want to shine, to be tough on the candidates and not to be accused of bias.
Ha!
That's all I need to hear.
The story's bogus.
Avoid being accused of bias.
Okay.
And what is this?
They each want to be the one who hit Hillary Clinton and Trump with hard questions.
You mean there are going to be some soft ones?
What does this mean?
That somebody's going to be assigned to softballs and somebody gets the hardballs?
Why can't they be hardball every time they talk to one of them?
I don't mean unfair.
Is somebody going to ask Hillary about the server?
Somebody ask her about the emails?
Somebody going to ask her about what differences are making now about four people being dead in Benghazi?
Is somebody going to ask?
She hasn't been asked that yet.
Is somebody going to ask her about the way she bullied women who had had affairs with her?
Is somebody going to ask her these things?
Are they arguing to see who doesn't have to ask those?
My guess is that neither one of these people want to be the one to go there.
And if they don't, it's going to be up to Trump to do it.
The rest of the quote is, so there's a lot of turf grabbing going on.
See, these moderators, they want to be every bit as much of the show as the candidates.
I don't care what we hear about.
I don't want to be noticed.
I just want to blend in.
They all want to be Candy Crowley.
Well, in terms of style, they think they're in the same league.
This is the thing that, look, it's all showbiz.
And the news people think that, you know, they're more legitimate claimants to the showbiz aspects of this than even the politicians.
But they at least think it's equal footing.
So, well, we'll find out soon enough how this all plays out.
So the drive-bys are all excited that Julian Assange of WikiLeaks has nothing.
You know, WikiLeaks have been promising for weeks now that they had another Hillary document dump coming.
It's supposed to happen yesterday.
And then Assange didn't show up.
So they're postponing it.
And it's because some people speculate that Hillary had asked some people, why can't they just drone the guy?
That's what the Obama administration does.
I mean, they launch drones.
It kills people.
And Hillary is now saying she doesn't remember.
What is it?
She doesn't recall joking about droning Julian Assange.
And she may not, folks.
I mean, after all, she may not.
It could have happened during one of those seizures.
I mean, you just don't know.
Anyway, back to the phones.
We go.
Stephen in Kingston, Tennessee.
It's great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hello, Rush.
It's a pleasure speaking with you from Transplanted New Englander to the Cowfields of Tennessee.
Thank you, sir.
Very much.
Great to have you here.
I just wanted to mention how much, and I point this out to my kids, too, because my oldest is of voting age.
And I point out to him how much Trump is Reagan-esque in everything he's been doing, and especially about, you know, him following a poor president like Reagan did.
But the big thing I've noticed is he has the ability to choose the people that need to be in the positions they need to be in because he has the understanding, like Reagan did, of that they don't know everything and that he knows where his limitations are so he can choose the right people.
And Pence just proved that last night.
Oh, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
You might get some argument from people who think that Trump is Reagan-esque because of a couple of things.
Although I have to tell you, Jeffrey Lord, American spectator, who worked in the Reagan White House in the political office, political department.
You know, I asked you when I learned last year that he was an ardent Trumpist, I said, I was a little surprised.
And I said, Jeffrey, what's going on?
He said, Rush, I'm sorry.
I've met him.
I've talked to him.
And at the early stages here, he reminds me of so much of Reagan and so many things.
And Trump has never reminded me of Reagan, but I didn't know Reagan personally, the way Jeffrey Lord and other people do.
So I can't sit here and say that Jeff is wrong.
He knew Reagan intimately, and Trump knows him pretty well too.
And I hear you.
You're not the first person otherwise, aside from Jeffrey, make this reference to me.
The way he can do this ability to be in the limelight and almost be celebrity, just like Reagan was, and the way the media has attacked him, like they attacked Reagan for him being celebrity or doofus or whatever they tried labeling Reagan with unintelligent.
And now they're trying to use the same argument with, oh, he shouldn't have his finger on the button.
Remember how everybody was going to launch the missiles?
Well, I'll tell you what it is.
And it was true in Reagan, too.
One of the reasons that Reagan was hated, and folks, I'm not throwing that word out lightly.
I mean, the media hated the guy.
It probably was not personal hatred.
It was hatred for the whole idea that Reagan could succeed.
It was hatred for the idea that Reagan could overcome them.
And that's exactly what he did.
Reagan did not have a conservative media.
He had nothing.
He didn't have talk radio.
There wasn't any.
Not national.
He didn't have blogs and websites.
And he didn't have all these independent thinkers that were smarter than he was telling him what to do every day like exists now.
It was it.
He didn't have a media behind him.
But he had the ability to reach the American people directly.
He didn't need to go do a press conference or an interview in order to communicate with the American people, meaning he didn't need to use them as the middlemen.
And Trump doesn't need that either.
Trump can reach the American people on his own without having to use the media.
But one big difference, Trump will do any media that asks him.
You know, if Talk Radio Mars called, Trump would make time.
He'd go to a studio with an uplink to Mars.
He does everyone.
He does every interview that people ask him to do.
He's everywhere.
And he's not afraid of them.
And he's not afraid to be who he is.
And a lot of people, that's you realize how many people in politics, you always wonder who they really are.
With Trump, you don't.
You know exactly who he is.
Stephen, I'm glad you called this as Alessandro.
The reason I paused is because it's on two lines here.
There's one line with part of the name, and the bottom line has it.
So I just had to study it for a minute.
In where is it, Chino Hills in California?
Alessandro, hi, great to have you with us.
Hi.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm really good.
Thank you.
Oh, you're 13 years old.
I just saw that too.
Yes, sir.
Well, great to have you here with us.
Thank you.
My question today is, I play soccer, and in the games, there are referees, right?
So my question is, why doesn't Hillary follow the rules of the FBI and why doesn't the FBI catch what she does, such as private emails and those things.
You know, you have asked a perfect question.
It's a question that somebody like you at your age looking at this would be at the front of your mind.
How can she get away with not pay?
You just mentioned your soccer refs.
You have to listen to them.
What they say goes, right?
Whether they're right or wrong, they're the authority on the field, and you have to do what they say.
You have to play the rules of the game as they interpret them and all that.
Well, the answer to your question, Alessandro, is the reason that she doesn't have to follow the rules of the FBI is because the FBI is not enforcing the rules on her.
I see.
It's no more complicated than that.
It's as if you're playing soccer and the referees are for the other team.
That's what's happening here.
The FBI is part of the Department of Justice.
And that's part of the executive branch, which means President Obama is the boss.
He appoints the leader of the Department of Justice, a cabinet position, and the FBI.
And they serve at his pleasure.
Now, in the past, those people have been pretty much independent and have tried to remain unaffected by the political wishes of the president.
There have been examples in the past where that hasn't worked.
But this, it is clear that the FBI, as the referee or the enforcement of the rules, the laws, is not applying them to her.
Now, that then, you might say, well, why?
And that's the $64,000 question.
That we can only guess.
I can tell you what my guess is, Alessandro.
I think the reason that the FBI is doing what it's doing is because the FBI, the people there, the director, does not want to be the person who took action that damaged the nominated candidate of the Democrat Party for president.
I think that's something that the man does not want to live with the rest of his life, doesn't want it on his resume.
Let the American people decide.
The Democrat Party nominated her, and I think he just doesn't want to take the steps to cause her problems in that regard.
As such, the rules don't apply.
I mean, they've had to invent this new thing for her that she's not guilty of any of this because they couldn't find any evidence.
She intended to break the rules, which, Alessandro, that's clearly not true.
And it doesn't matter.
You know, ignorance is no excuse if you break the law.
You know, you can say, I didn't know I couldn't steal those Skittles from the 70s.
Doesn't matter.
They're still going to get you for stealing the Skittles.
Well, they're telling us that Mrs. Clinton, she didn't intend to break any of these rules.
And so there's really nothing we can do.
It's real flimsy.
So people have lost a lot of confidence in the referee here.
Right.
Doesn't seem right, does it?
I mean, you've got your soccer matches.
You've got the referees enforcing the rules on both teams.
And here's, and that's nothing compared to the FBI.
The FBI, that's serious stuff.
People running for that's serious stuff.
And for them to be excused from following the rules, it doesn't seem right, does it?
No, it doesn't.
Well, obviously, because you called and asked about it.
So, well, what do you think needs to happen to people like this?
Or in situations like this, what do you think needs to happen to fix it?
Well, the FBI needs to try to stop these type of things.
And that's what I think.
Yeah, makes sense to me.
Well, look, Alessandro, I'm glad you called.
It's great to hear from you, and I'm flattered that you are in the audience.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Guys, quick timeout, my friends.
I'm just looking here.
I shouldn't do this because I'm not a meteorologist.
I shouldn't do this.
Somebody just do it, but predicate it by saying, I'm not a meteorologist.
I'm not trained at all.
I'm looking at the latest model run.
I told you there's going to be a model run at 2 o'clock.
I'm looking at it.
And a lot of these models have shifted way west.
Some of them right up the middle of the state.
A lot of them.
The 5 o'clock forecast is going to be interesting.
I don't expect they're going to change the track much because not all models are equal.
And this is a real spaghetti model.
I mean, there must be 25 or 30 models here, and it's impossible to track each one of them individually, but there's a whole lot more model activity over the peninsula of Florida than there was at 8 a.m. today.
Well, they don't have it coming ashore yet.
The official track doesn't have it.
Closest to coming ashore just south of Cape Canaveral on the 11 o'clock.
The next official forecast will be at 5 Eastern Time.
The models, as I say, they just reported the latest model runs at 2 o'clock, 45 minutes ago.
And I'm telling you, this model run looks different, drastically different.
There's still a whole bunch of models right on the forecast track.
That hasn't changed, but a lot of them have shifted way west.
Some of them now over to Tampa.
But I shouldn't say that.
I'm not a meteorologist, nothing official here.
Just tell you what I'm looking at.
You'd see the same thing if you saw the model runs that I'm looking at.
Back in a sec.
You know, I got a quick question.
We have this hurricane out there.
This hurricane's 150 miles away.
Let's say 200, and they don't know where it's going.
Why is there not a consensus of scientists that can look at this hurricane and tell us right now where it's going?
Because we have a consensus of scientists that can tell us what the sea levels and the temperatures are going to be 50 years from now.
The climate change global warming hoaxers, they claim there's a consensus of scientists that we must accept and agree because it is incontrovertibly true that there is going to be rising sea levels and rising temperatures to the point that the planet may not even be habitable in 50 years.
They've been saying this, by the way, since 1980.
Why isn't there a similar consensus of sciences that can tell us where this freaking hurricane is going to go?
Is that a reasonable question or am I being unreasonable here?
That's a rather brilliant question, actually, in terms of the point that it makes.
Here's Ann in Williamsport, Maryland.
Great that you got through today.
Hi, how are you?
Hi, I'm good.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, ma'am.
I just appreciate all you do.
I love listening to you.
Thank you.
But the reason I called was I really loved the way last night Pence looked into the camera and spoke to the American people.
Even if they tried to get him off course, he actually acknowledged the America out in TV land, I should say.
But I just really appreciated that.
And I hope Trump does the same thing.
Well, you know what?
Your observation, I think, is shared by a lot of people.
He kept his cool.
He was importantly was not flustered off of the points that he wanted to make.
They were trying to just rat-tat-tat endless interruptions and assault, try to get him off his line of thinking, is forget his train of thought and the points that he wanted to make.
And they didn't succeed.
Kane ended up looking like El Jerko.
And of course, now we've got the cover theories.
Well, Rush, I mean, they're so far ahead.
Kane actually went in this to lose it.
That was the first theory I heard last night from Drive-By End.
Oh, yeah, he wanted to lose this.
They've got a cushion.
He could lose this.
It was important to have the stuff about Trump said.
And Kane said it, and he said it and said it.
He repeated himself five or six times on each one of those things.
And he was willing to run the risk of losing the debate on style points or whatever just to make sure that those talking points.
And then they concluded, well, you know, Pence really did well.
Pence didn't rise to the bait.
He kept his cool and all that.
And in the process, Donald Trump lost because Pence did so good.
He made Trump look bad.
Then they told us that Trump was mad that Pence did so well.
Because Pence doing well puts more pressure on Trump to do well.
As though Trump's going into the debate, not really giving it his all, but no, he's mad because Pence did so well that Trump really has to try now.
They actually try to make us believe this, Pap.
In the immediate debate aftermath last night, where we retreated all the analysis.
Oh, and then the piece des résistance that Pence knows that Hillary's got this lockdown.
It's over.
Pence was simply positioning himself for his own 2020 presidential run.
These people, I don't think they realize how obvious and transparent they are now to people.
Okay, folks, that's it for us today.
We will be here.
Well, I will be here tomorrow.
Remember, as long as I'm here, it doesn't matter where here is.
Things will be normal on this program tomorrow.
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