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Now, ladies and gentlemen.
I think the West Wing is where a lot of liberals actually got the idea of how government works when liberals run it.
It was complete fantasyland for them.
It was how they stayed sane during the Bush administration.
They literally pretended that Martin Sheen was the president, and everything going on in that show was what was actually happening.
And that they were helping to beat Bush back and so forth.
And I think a lot of adult leftists today and adult Democrats have their idea of what government is and how presidents ought to be from that show.
Now the primary writer on that show was the radical liberal lunatic Lawrence O'Donnell.
He was one of the main writers for that show for a longest time.
He has or had a show at PMSNBC.
You know who Lawrence O'Donnell is, right?
You didn't know that.
Lawrence O'Donnell was now they had a lot of writers, but he he was one of the lead writers, head writers primary for a long time in that show, not the whole duration.
But I mean, that's one of the only things you really need to know about that show.
Lawrence O'Donnell's, I know some people in LA who also know Lawrence O'Donnell, and he sends me messages through those people.
Well, yeah, I can I can repeat them.
I mean, they're their messages attempting to convey respect, but that he thinks I'm full of it.
He's you know, I was talking to Larry the other day, is the way it starts.
It's mutual you're talking to you know, he's just in deep admiration of what you do.
Thinks you're full of crap.
But but he wanted me to be sure and tell you hello.
He really, he really admires what you've pulled off here, but it's a big thing's one of his biggest scams he's ever seen.
You know, stuff like that.
I've never actually met the guy.
I've just seen him.
He's also been a campaign aide for some people, I think.
Maybe it's just this TV writer credits.
Um I don't know.
Anyway, just to get that squared away by West Wing.
Now that cast is is is gonna be campaigning for Hillary.
And I'm telling you, uh I've I've I've focused on this a couple of times here in recent days, but I really do look at Hillary Clinton, and I see somebody in a time capsule.
She is, I and I made this observation last fall, back during the primary.
She seems stuck in the 90s.
She seems stuck in the 90s in terms of um the criticism she gets.
She still treats it like the same criticism she and her husband got back in the 1990s, vis-a-vis Lewinsky in the best red-wing conspiracy.
Same enemies, same people, same issues.
And everything about her seems stuck way, way back in the past.
And it's a challenge.
You know, Hill Hillary's an elderly person now.
And she's one of these people that does not age well.
And I don't mean physically, I'm talking about in terms of health.
I'm not saying anything that isn't obvious.
And it is it is a challenge.
It is a challenge for people as they age to not stay young, I mean, you don't really pull that off, but to stay, what is it?
Not not hip, it's but relevant.
I mean, to you know, a lot of elderly people as they age, distance from the younger generation on purpose, you know, uh, okay, I had my time when I was their age.
They're doing what they're doing now, and then there's no effort here to uh no, that's not true because there is effort.
I'm let me just say it.
I just think Mrs. Clinton has not kept up.
And I think the way she sees the world and the way she sees campaigns and the way she sees Republican political opponents is almost stereotypical, with the stereotype coming from the 90s.
And I m many of her staff, I think, are the same, and many of her fundraisers are from the same Bailiwick.
I mean, to go before a group of union thugs, don't why aren't I 50 points ahead?
Well, now, you know, to ask that question, you must have to honestly believe you you should be 50 points ahead.
Now, who believes that in any campaign that they are going to be 50 points ahead?
But she does.
And the primary reason she does is because of what they think of Trump.
And by extension, what they think of Trump's supporters.
And she's already told us.
Deplorables and idiots and ignoramuses who believe the economy and the country has passed them by and don't really care, and they may be right, but we're not going to do anything about it because they're not going to vote for us.
So screw them.
So we're just going to lump them all into this giant basket of deplorables.
The left is not tolerant and they're not compassionate.
And the attitudes they have toward people that don't support them, don't vote for them, is not compassion and a desire to change minds.
It's the enemy.
We are the enemy.
And we are the biggest enemy Obama and Hillary face in their minds.
Not ISIS.
Not Iran, not Al Qaeda, not any military opponent, not China.
American conservatives and Republicans are the biggest enemy.
Because the way they look at it, the Chicoms may be dangerous, but the Chincoms are not trying to take the White House from them.
And the Iranians aren't trying to take the White House from them.
But we are.
And that makes us.
Plus, we uh we we stand for a different cultural norm than they do.
And so it's it's really enemy combatant time.
Okay, Loretta Lynch, the attorney general.
When I saw the transcript of this, I said, this has to be a mistake.
This is not Loretta Lynch.
This has to be Marilyn Mosby.
Does that name ring a bill, Marilyn Mosby?
Marilyn Mosby was the state attorney, the district attorney in Baltimore, and it came out and announced that she was going to go after those cops for what they did to that nice young man, Freddie Gray.
So I read the transcript here what Loretta Lynch said at a press conference at the Department of Justice today, and I literally thought I was listening to Marilyn Mosby.
Listen to this.
To those who are exercising that most fundamental of our freedoms, we hear your voices and we feel your pain.
To all the law enforcement officers who continue to risk their lives day in and day out to keep us safe and to protect those essential freedoms, I extend my deepest thanks and support.
But finally, I urge all Americans to ask themselves what they can do to contribute to the more peaceful, the more perfect, and the more just union that is our shared heritage, that is our mutual responsibility, and that is our common goal.
All right.
So the first people she acknowledges are the protesters, just like Marilyn Mosby did.
I feel your pain.
I hear your demands for no justice, no peace, but you gotta get out of the way so that I can do the justice part of that.
Well, here's Loretta Lynch.
To those exercising that most fundamental of our freedoms, you rioters.
We hear you.
And we feel your pain.
Pain?
What pain?
They are the ones inflicting the pain.
I mean, they even attacked a CNN journalist.
Can I go through some of the headlines here for you?
I have the right stack here.
Now, some of the headlines from the UK Daily Mail are as precious about what's going on there.
I know, I know there was somebody shot by a cop, but We already been through that.
There was not a it was not a racial incident.
Here we go.
War zone in Charlotte.
White man begs for mercy as he is beaten while a reporter is nearly dragged into a fire by rioters.
As people are told to stay home from work after the police shooting of a black father.
Disturbing videos have emerge of protesters brutally attacking bystanders.
It was the second night of unrest following the deadly shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by a cop.
Governor Pat McCrory has declared a state of emergency, has called in the National Guard.
Major companies with offices in the downtown told employees not to come to work today.
Mayor Jennifer Roberts is also considering putting a curfew in place.
She also said that Scott's family will be shown video of the police shooting today.
One of the demonstrators shot in the head outside the Omni Hotel fighting for his life.
At least three other protesters and four cops were also taken to hospital.
A man believed to be Scott's brother was captured on video saying all white people are effing devils, as he imitated John Fing Carey.
So that's just a read of some of the some of the headlines.
And then here's a story about the white guy allowed to drive away alive.
Stop now.
Think of this headline.
There was a white guy brandishing a gun, holding it in his left hand out the driver's side window of the car he was driving.
And they clear a path and they let the guy go through.
It's a white guy.
Nobody made everything.
And the headline, he was allowed to drive away alive.
As though getting out of there alive last night was an achievement.
White motorist armed with a gun in all capital letters, is filmed driving slowly through a crowd of protesters in Charlotte.
Writer Heather Head filmed the car driving into crowds in North Carolina.
Illegal to openly carry a gun in a protest or civil disorder.
But this guy did it anyway.
State of emergency has been declared in the city in the midst of chaos.
Headlines go on.
So uh Loretta Lynch with her press conference first acknowledges the protesters exercising the most fundamental of our freedoms.
We hear your voices.
We feel your pain.
And then she acknowledges law enforcement.
And then finally, I urge all Americans to ask themselves what they can do to contribute to the more what are the what's the rest of America got to do with this?
I urge all Americans to ask themselves what they can do to contribute to the more peaceful, the more perfect and the more just union that is our shared heritage, that is our mutual responsibility, and that is our common goal.
Yeah.
Well who would do that?
Oh, oh, oh.
I see what you're saying.
Mr. Snerdley is saying this woman ought to be up there telling every one of these lawbreakers what's going to happen to them if they don't stop this.
Right?
She's the top law enforcement officer in the country, and instead of acknowledging this and encouraging this and saying she understands this, she ought to be telling these people it's about time to stop it, or they're going to be sent places they don't want to go.
Well, that's not what she did.
She's up there.
We feel your pain.
This is basically a green light and throwing the onus on the country.
Remember, this is all happening in her mind.
The country, the people of a country.
We have a lot to do.
We have a long way to go.
We are not perfect.
We are imperfect.
We are not fulfilling the ideal.
We're not anywhere close to it.
We, the people of the country.
We've got a lot of work to do, and you and I, the people of the country, we better get serious and we better start doing whatever.
But I uh I think I think Mr. Snerdley has a uh has a point.
Hey, She's the top cop.
It's time to shut this down instead of running around acting like we understand.
We feel your pain.
And we we really we admire or we what whatever it is that she's trying to convey here.
It is not anything that you would hear from the law.
But she's not the only one.
Law enforcement is so under the gun because of this.
I mean, the cops know that the DOJ's not with them.
Or they let put this way.
The cops, you can understand them wondering whether or not the DOJ is with them when she goes out and acknowledges the protesters and says, hey, we totally get what you do.
We understand it.
We feel your pain.
If you run Black Lives Matter and you hear the attorney general come out with a statement like that, what's your reaction going to be?
Green light.
I think you've been green lighted.
Story from yesterday didn't have a chance to get to Sunday at the Men's Day program hosted at Union Temple Baptist Church in Washington, D.C., the Nation of Islam, Grand Poopah, the Minister Lewis Farrakhan said to President Obama, your people are suffering and dying in the streets of Chicago.
So you failed to do what should have been done.
Farrakhan continued by saying it's time to let Donald Trump do what he wants to because he's not destroying your legacy.
Farrakhan said, So you Democrats, you've been in their party a long time.
Answer me.
What did you get?
You got a president, and he's worried about his legacy.
You want Hillary to get in to protect your legacy because Trump said the minute he gets in, he's going to reverse the Affordable Care Act because that's your signature achievement.
To show you how hateful the enemy is, he hates that you achieve what you did achieve.
So he said, I'm gonna tear it up when I get in.
So he don't want his legacy destroyed.
Mr. President, let the man do if he get in what he wants to because he's not destroying your legacy.
If your legacy's bound up in health care, that only affects a few million people, and they're trying to make it really difficult for those of us who signed up, but that's not your legacy.
I want to tell you, Mr. President, you are from Chicago, and so am I. I go out in the streets with the people, I visit the worst neighborhoods, I talk to the gangs, and while I was out there.
They said, you know, Farrakhan, the president ain't never come.
Could you get him to come and look after us?
That's your legacy, Mr. President.
It's in the streets with your suffering people, Mr. President.
And if you can't go and see about them, then don't worry about your legacy.
So Calypso Louie just unloaded on Obama on Sunday.
Essentially charging his priorities are all out of whack.
What legacy?
You ain't gonna have no legacy.
If all you dig it is is healthcare, your people are dying.
Your people are getting killed.
You don't care.
And then Douglas Wilder of the noted Wilder Effect, the former governor of Virginia has come out and trashed Hillary, claiming she takes the black vote for granted.
Details coming up.
Okay.
We now have we now have some people that are on hold and on the phones and have been cleared to appear on the program.
So we're gonna start with Tom, who is in Charlotte.
I'm glad you made it through today, Tom.
How are you doing?
Oh, Rush, I can't tell you how glad I am I made it through too, man.
This is amazing.
Uh talking to you is just amazing.
Um I just need to your listeners have got to hear what happened here in Charlotte yesterday.
City officials in the afternoon sent out uh email to all the city employees.
And I think it was on the local news too.
They basically announced that there was gonna be a uh a scheduled protest at Marshall Park at 7 p.m.
And that they expected it to become violent.
Uh and then they basically ordered everybody to go home.
Not just city employees, but like all the banks sent out mass emails to everybody and said, Everybody go home at four o'clock.
I saw that.
Yeah.
And and it was crazy.
I mean, I had people, friends call me, and I saw friends on Facebook telling me what chaos it was.
So basically they they told everybody there was gonna be a protest, and then they cleared out uptown.
Right, except the change.
What they ended up doing was clearing a path for these people.
Look at all the the hotels and the businesses that likely will now suffer because of this.
You add to whatever damage that bathroom law has done and the NBA piling on.
And what did you guys do to deserve any of this?
Well, we're just the next stop in the Obama world tour brush.
I mean, this is the same stage show that they put on in Baltimore.
You are that you're for the riots.
Charlotte is the next city which must suffer in order to generate African American turnout in November for Hillary.
Well, I mean, I think it maybe is just a way of divide the country.
I mean, yeah, I agree, you're right.
I mean, they're they're trying to get the voters to turn out.
They've already done that.
They let the national media come in and cover this.
They set the stage for violence.
Now they just sit back and wait, and then you film it when it happens.
They put it on the national media, and then they stir it up and say, look, look, we got a race war going on.
Everybody let me get out there.
No, no, you're right, but I'll tell you the national media is not all there yet.
There are plane loads of drive-by media en route even now.
I know flight attendants all over the country.
I'm getting I'm getting private notes about all the drive-by's on the planes.
Hi, welcome back.
El Rushbo having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Okay, so Calypso Lewis goes after goes after Obama for essentially abandoning the African American community in favor of his legacy.
And by the way, folks, this gets to exactly the point that I have been making the past two days.
We have riots now, the expected norm, the new norm in the second term of the first presidency of an African American.
First African American president.
And what's the legacy?
What's the expected norm?
Riots.
When law enforcement uses its weapons, bam, automatic.
Everybody just assumes now we're gonna have riots.
Doesn't matter why, doesn't matter the specifics.
The facts in each instance don't matter.
It's a license to riot.
Sanctioned by the highest levels of our government, because they make no effort to stop it, as evidenced by Loretta Lynch's most recent press conference.
As I say earlier, if I were African American and living in an inner city or part of an inner city like Charlotte, wherever, I'd be mad too, folks.
So would you.
Their anger just misdirected.
But remember, the leaders of this movement are not really the same people who live in these inner city neighborhoods.
They are purely 100% political.
This is not about living conditions.
It's not about any of these things they they belly ache about.
This is about advancing liberalism, globalism.
This is about transforming the United States away from what it was founded to be.
This is about defeating Republicans and conservatives disguised as an effort to ratchet up the quality of black lives.
The whole thing is misdirection.
And the proof of that in this case is there's not a white cop anywhere involved in any of this.
And it doesn't matter.
And Farrakhan, he sees what's going on.
Hey, man, you know, you your people in Chicago, people in Charlotte, they're dying on the streets.
You're not doing damn thing enough.
You're worried about your legacy on health care.
You go out and make a speech and you beg us to show up and vote for Hillary for your legacy.
I hate to say it, but that's a common sensical reaction to what Obama's doing.
The fact it comes from Calypso Louis doesn't disqualify it as far as I'm concerned.
That's a very common sense reaction.
I mean, I I I would think, you know, I'm not African American, and I'm not I'm not suggesting that I am in any way, shape, manner, or form, but I just I think about this, and if if I'm African American, there's Obama up there begging me to go out and vote for him and to save him and his legacy and to help Hillary.
That's not why I've been voting Democrat the last 50 years, I would say to myself.
I've been voting for you.
I haven't been voting here for you so that you had a legacy.
I thought what all this was about was you getting even with people that have been holding me down.
I thought all this voting for you and voting for Democrats was to punish the people who've been mistreating us.
I thought it was about changing the playing field here, giving us a leg up.
None of that's happening.
We're in a second term of the Obama administration.
Economic circumstances for African Americans in real income, median income, uh wage increases, unemployment.
It's a disaster.
And over here, Donald Trump's the one guy running around trying to literally make unification inroads with black leaders at black churches.
The first elected black governor, Douglas Wilder, this is in the Hill.com, says that Hillary Clinton assumes she has unwavering support from African Americans, and it isn't true.
So Farrakhan trashes Obama yesterday and Wilder trashes Hillary today.
He said, Doug Wilder, for her to go out and say to the African American community, I want you to elect me so that we can continue the legacy of Barack Obama.
What exactly is it that you want to continue?
Wilder asked in a Washington Post interview today.
You can't win this election without the African American vote, added Wilder.
Hillary obviously has necessary qualifications, but tell me how what you've done relates to what the black community needs.
Bingo.
I mean, from the way they look at things, you may think I'm crazy agreeing with this, but I understand how Democrats vote.
They vote for government and for people based on what they're going to get back.
What government's going to do for them, included in that is who is government going to punish.
And so Hillary's out there, you've got to elect me.
You got to elect me so we can preserve Obama's legacy.
And Wilder is saying, you really think that African Americans all over this country care about Obama's legacy?
That the most important thing to them is the historical legacy of the first African American president.
Well, let me tell you something.
That's exactly how they do think.
Hillary, specifically, thinks that the black vote is automatic for the Democrat, 92 and 93 percent every presidential year.
And I'm telling you this too, folks, and I don't doubt me.
It's going to be hard, but don't doubt me.
The Democrats so consider the African American vote automatic.
They, I am convinced, really do believe that the African American vote is focused on the preservation of Democrat leaders.
I think they're that far gone.
I think they really think there is hero worship in all these constituency groups.
And they vote for the Democrat to help the Democrat.
And the voters are looking at the other way around.
They're voting for these people, thinking and hoping there's going to be something come back to them.
And their hat doesn't have to say 50 years.
That's why I've been asking, what have you gotten for all this?
Nothing.
And that's what Trump's been making the same point.
What do you have to lose voting for me?
I don't see it working all that rate for you right now.
And then you can tell by the cat call reactions of Democrats and media people what a home run that comment is, because they act like squealed pigs, stuck pigs, squealing around.
So it's not hunky-dory out there, and there's resentment seating in, and the black lives matter protests and all this sort of stuff.
what it's really about from the leadership level, not the people in the streets doing the rioting and the burning.
But the people promoting that and encouraging that, the leaders of these strictly partisan political operatives being funded by partisan political donors like George Soros for the express purpose of advancing the Democrat Party.
All the while making it look like the people joining the riots, all of this is ultimately going to benefit them.
It's not about them.
They're just made to think that it is.
John in Indianapolis, we will squeeze a call in on our remaining moments of this busy broadcast segment.
How are you doing, John?
I'm doing fantastic.
Hey, right off the bat, I just like to tell you that Trump had my vote when he caused Lindsay Graham to get his golf club out and destroy his own cell phone.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
I remember that, yeah.
Anyway, I think the Democrats and Hillary needed Charlotte because it's like Ram Emanuel famously said, never let a good crisis go to waste.
Yeah.
If you notice, if you notice, the Jersey bombing, the thing that happened in Minnesota, the thing with cargo jets full of cash and Iran, Hillary's health, Hillary's emails have all gone away.
And I think I think the uh the optics of uh Hillary on 9-11.
That was over.
I think it's a done deal.
Okay, now wait, wait, wait, I hear all this.
And I I'm gonna admit something, I take a little bit of it personally.
I don't you don't you don't mean it that way.
But I have people, the reason I do it'cause I have people email me accusing me of falling for the latest Democrat trick of getting soaked up into this story and not covering the email scandal, not covering her illness, you're falling for it too, Russia.
So not falling for anything here.
Whatever they do, there's an opportunity to explain it.
But let me ask you this.
If you think this was largely engineered to distract people from Hillary's illnesses and the Iranian payoff and all these other things you mentioned.
What started this?
Remember, there was a shooting in in Charlotte.
A cop shot shot somebody.
Did what did that was that part of the plan too?
Well, they could have picked any other story nationally.
But, you know, we've already experienced Baltimore and Ferguson.
And I think if the if the TV people just pack up their cameras and load up their trucks and ski dad out of there, you know, it's all gonna go away after the debates on Monday.
Sherrill will be forgotten.
Don't you think?
Uh oh, yeah.
Like like, well, forgotten in the sense that it's no longer a front page or lead item on cable news, yeah.
But it's not going to be forgotten as a reference point.
It's going to join a long list of supposed examples of how racist and discriminatory and mean America and the cops are.
But no, my my only point is look, I under I understand uh people think that this whole thing is uh a gigantic distraction, so that Hillary's emails and her health problems are swept away and nobody's talking about them anymore.
But and I and some people even go so far as saying, yeah, this is a conspiracy.
Well, look, then did somebody hire this cop to go shoot somebody so that the story would begin?
I mean, the story happened.
There was a shooting.
It was a black cop, but a cop shot somebody.
Did they is that part of the whole thing that was arranged in order to take Hillary?
There are people who believe the Clintons are able and totally capable of doing something like that.
Don't count me among them.
What you're really saying is this happened and they're fully willing to take advantage of it because it's a crisis that they're not gonna let go to waste.
I understand your standpoint, your your point of view on this.
But look, we can we can walk and chew gum and multitask and deal with my spam folder blowing up on me today and still do the program with nobody knowing of the distractions unless I tell you.
So don't accuse me of being taken off message here.
Okay, we have some conflicting news here on a subject.
As you know, the Carolina Panthers have a home game in Charlotte.
In fact, hang on, just the Carolina Panthers play on Sunday?
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Carolina Panthers NFL Schedule Sunday.
The Panthers Vikings game is Sunday at 1 p.m.
Okay, so it's the Vikings.
So the Hill.com, 24 minutes ago says the NFL is considering moving the game out of Charlotte.
Because of all of this.
The Washington Post says the NFL wants to play the game in Charlotte.
So we have two conflicting stories on this.
The Washington Post story is a little earlier in the day.
The Hill story is 24 minutes ago, but 25, maybe 30 minutes ago now.
But they've already had the bathroom law totally just this LGBT thing, the NBA pulling out of there their all-star game.
And now this and if they don't, I mean, this is a target-rich environment for whoever wants to make mayhem.
If the Panthers play a play their home game on Sunday, I can't see them moving the game.
I I can see them bringing in spets nets and whoever they have to for security, but I can't see a move of the game.
This is Linda in Atlanta, as we stay on the phones.
Greetings and welcome to the program.
Hi.
Hi, Russ.
How are you today?
Very well.
Thank you.
Good, good.
Uh first of all, I just want to give you uh a big thank you for everything from your radio show to your books and all that you do to educate and inform the public.
And uh that's that's tremendously important.
And you keep us up to date on everything and and your opinions, and I want to thank you for that.
Thank you.
I appreciate that very, very much.
Okay.
Uh protests are nothing new, okay?
They've been going on since the beginning of time.
We read about them in the Bible and and and everything moving forward.
And protests, just like anything, have rules.
And what I can't really figure out is um why people don't follow the rules.
When the police say, put your hands in the air.
When the police say, do not get into your car, when the police say, stay still, sit down, be quiet, whatever they say.
I've had a pet care business for 16 years, and I train animals, and it's it's probably easier sometimes to train an animal than it is a human being.
But when it comes to life, when it comes to a bullet, when it comes to anyone losing their family, their environment, their job, losing everything.
Well, let me take a stab at this.
Because it's a it's a it's this is the third great question.
You might think I can I can see some of you people.
What do you mean why do people break the rules?
Why do people rob banks?
Why do people break the law?
But this question is actually, she's asking a specific question and really what it is.
Because the latest incident here, when the cops tell you to put your hands up and walk away, it's for the safety of everybody.
It's for the safety of the cops, it's the safety of you and bystanders.
There are procedures that are taught in police academies.
Everything is rooted around safety for everybody involved.
And if the cops tell you walk away, put your hands up, put your hands behind your head, get down on your knees.
The vast majority of people have respect for this kind of authority and will abide by it.
But Linda, the answer to your question is in many neighborhoods in many parts of this country, people do not trust the cops and do not want to give an inch.
It is an automatic confrontational adversarial relationship.
Whenever a cop involves himself in any aspect, could be a traffic stop, could be an accident, anything.
When a cop's involved Some people instinctively, because of either the way they've been raised or their life experiences, it becomes adversarial, and it becomes a game of stare down.
And you have people who will refuse to give an inch.
They will refuse to be put on the defensive by cop, especially.
It's manly to stand up to the cop.
It's manly to call a cop a name.
It's man it's just it's it's a lot of it is uh is cultural.
And it it's the the answers to this question are deep, and the the solutions to it are even deeper than that.
But that's the that's the surface answer for you.
And I would delve deeper, clearly capable, but I'm out of time.