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Sept. 15, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 15, 2016, Thursday, Hour #3
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Hey Bo, make sure that guy on line two hangs on there.
We got a guy, we're gonna get to him.
He says there is such a thing as bacterial pneumonia.
Now the the Obamacare site that codes diseases says there's no such thing as non-contagious bacterial pneumonia.
We got a guy.
Remember now anybody can call here and say anything.
And his host, uh, I can say anything.
This is up to you to trust who's who.
It's great to have you here on the fastest three hours in Media Rush Limbo on the most listened to radio talk show in America.
The phone number 800 282-2882.
Isn't the drive-by media just great, folks?
You've seen the story, by the way, that the media is held.
American trust in the news media has fallen to its lowest level in history.
This is according to the to the Gallup poll.
Americans' trust and confidence in a mass media to report the news fully, accurately and fairly, has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup history.
32% say they have a great deal or a fair amount of trust in the media.
Well, let's look at this.
On Sunday, Hillary Clinton seizes up.
She just she started bopping up and down.
She started wavering there back and forth.
She literally seized up, trying to get in to a double wide door van.
After having had to leave the 9-11 ceremony early because of supposed overheating and dehydration, she had to be literally thrown into the van, and two people had to move in quickly to keep her from collapsing to the ground.
She started convulsing.
What's the big story today in the drive by media?
The big story today is the health of Donald Trump.
And his appearance on the Dr. Oz show.
Has Trump collapsed?
Has Trump had to suspend campaigning?
Has Trump disappeared for days at a time?
Have doctors diagnosed Trump with any disease whatsoever that it would that would explain erratic physical behavior?
Does he have to have people hold on to him and help him get up flights of stairs?
Does he need a secret service agent or doctor rubbing his back, telling her, just keep talking, everything's fine, we're gonna get through it.
Does he need that like she does?
Does he have a health care worker on standby taking his pulse, simply walking down the sidewalk?
Is Donald Trump chronically dehydrated?
Have we heard stories about how Donald Trump hates water, doesn't like to drink water, has to have water forced in him.
She's the smartest woman in the world and doesn't drink water, doesn't like it.
Yeah, the drive-bys are so concerned Trump's 15 pounds overweight and he gets criticized for eating junk food.
I think a lot of 70-year-old guys would love to have Trump's weight-to-size ratio.
They would love to have the amount of hair he's got.
They might do something different with it.
But I know a lot of 70-year-old people that would love to have Trump's energy and stamina.
He sleeps four or five hours a night max.
He's one of these people, by the way, who loves getting up.
I don't know how many of you do.
He loves it.
He loves waking up.
He loves getting up.
This is the news about him, and this is the stories anyway.
Speaking of overweight, at least drive-by media people actually taken a moment to look at the size of the pants Hillary wears in her pantsuits.
I know it's sexist to talk about things like women being overweight and all that, but come on.
This is just one of any number of examples I could give you to explain why the news media's trust and believability is at an all-time low.
Audio soundbite time.
This CNN, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
It was PBS Charlie Rose last night at a fill in host, Andrew Ross Sorkin.
And he was speaking with little Brian Selter, who is the Stelter, I'm sorry.
Little Brian, he's the media analysis guy at CNN.
He's the Howard Kurtz of CNN.
He's got a show on Cenicall reliable sources, and they have him on during the day to opine and explain to everybody what's happening in the media.
And how the media is treating people, why they're treating people certain ways, and how some people do well in the media why some people don't.
He's the media expert.
And so the guest host last night, Andrew Ross Sorkin, said there was a lot of speculation about Hillary Clinton's health in the news media prior to her disclosure about mild non-contagious pneumonia.
Now you called some of the speculation back then reckless.
You assigned it to a bunch of conspiracy wackos and kooks.
But now that the news is out there that she does have pneumonia or something.
Is it still reckless for people to talk about her health this way?
Get this answer, folks.
Baskets are a popular phrase.
Let's use baskets for this.
There's a basket of legitimate questioning about Hillary Clinton's health.
And some conservative commentators and media figures fit into that basket.
They're right to wonder about her health in some cases.
Then there's this other basket, a truly deplorable basket.
Sean Hannity fits into it.
So is Rush Limbaugh.
These are people who bring up rumors and innuendo about Clinton's health and have been doing it for years.
I'm not saying Hannity or Limbaugh into this necessarily, but they some of these figures want her to be sick.
They want her to be dying.
They want her to be on her deathbed.
It's wishful thinking.
You believe that.
This is a little Brian Stelter at CNN.
I don't think.
You'd have to correct me on this.
I don't think I ever weighed in substantively on Hillary's mythical illnesses or not.
I simply reported what I saw.
The seizure-like behavior and all that.
There are other people that were really, really focusing on really, really trying to point out she was really, really sick, and they were being attacked as conspiracy kooks, and they've all been vindicated.
And so, since there's vindication, what now happens?
Well, they they really want her to die.
They want her to get sick.
They wanted to be on her deathbed.
Yeah.
And that is is I guess CNN thinks this guy is a responsible commentator.
I have to ask the offices, is Brian Stelter ever called here once to ask to speak to me for clarification on anything.
You've never gotten a call from CNN saying that.
But he can he contradicts himself here.
He says, uh some conservative commentators fit into that basket.
They're right to wonder about her in some cases.
And there's this other basket, this truly deplorable basket.
Sean Hannity fits in there, so does Rush Limbaugh.
These are people who bring up rumors in a new window.
I'm not saying Hannity or Limbaugh fit into this.
What do you think you are?
You're specifically alleging, Brian, that we want her to be sick.
Brian, you you really need to research the transcripts of this program.
If you do, you will find that I am the one person who started expressing concern for Mrs. Clinton in a number of areas.
The most recent time when she had that four-minute coughing spasm.
It was I who asked, how could her staff do that to her and not send somebody out to rescue her?
Who left her out to dry in that episode?
I was also the one who came to her defense when people started making snarky comments about who wants to watch an aging woman in the White House Oval Office.
I don't know how I get lumped.
Well, I do know how I get lumped in.
These people are lazy, and they just assume that conservative leaders are reprobates or whatever they think of conservatism.
Look, I know Sean Hannity.
He doesn't want anybody to die.
What is this?
This is this is bottom of the barrel stuff.
Stelter doesn't really know what to say.
He doesn't really know how to categorize what I think are Hannity.
So just, you know what?
They're deplorable.
Hillary's right.
They want her to die.
They want to see her in a deathbed.
They want her to get sick.
How do you know that?
And just make a blanket statement like this.
Brian's a guy.
Little Brian's the one that sounds like a basket case.
What rumors have I talked about for years about Hillary's health?
What rumors did I create and spread?
I don't recall any.
For years.
My problem with Hillary Clinton has to do with what she believes.
My problem with Hillary Clinton has to be totally and 100% policy related.
But I guess Brian's at home.
I mean, these are the people that also blamed me for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Let's not forget that.
Bill Clinton himself and all of his glory.
So I guess these people must idolize the Clintons.
Now here's another bite, totally unrelated.
It's Jeff Zelney.
Turns out to be another CNN reporter, formerly of the New York Times.
And this was on their newsroom program this morning.
And he is explaining the objectives and the goals of the Clinton campaign as it relates to her health.
Hillary Clinton is going to leave her home in Chappaqua today in just a couple hours or so and return to the campaign trail.
The Clinton campaign knows that it has some ground to make up after she's been off the road for a couple days.
So she'll be going to Greensboro, North Carolina, one of those key battleground states, and then on to uh Washington, D.C. for a speech tonight.
But that first debate, some 11 days away, the top priority for the Clinton campaign, I'm told is to keep their candidate healthy for that night for that first debate.
Whoa.
Now stop and think about that for a second.
The objective of the campaign is to keep the candidate healthy for 11 days.
Right there it was on CNN.
That's the objective.
Yeah, they gotta keep her healthy for 11 days.
It must be a tall order.
It must be a very challenging objective here.
If it's make news that their objective is to keep her healthy for 11 days.
Maybe sounds like they're not sure they can do it.
And by the way, what does the campaign have to do with keeping her healthy?
How does the campaign keep her healthy?
Does it mean limit her time in public?
Does it mean make sure she stays in bed a certain number of hours every day?
Does it mean limiting her travel?
What does it mean?
You know, if I were Trump, you know what I would do at the first debate?
I'd show up wearing a surgical mask.
Well, I mean, if she's got pneumonia and they're saying it's non-contagious, I'd show up as Trump in a little surgical mask, just saying, hey, I want to protect myself.
They say it's non-contagious, but I can't take the chance.
Oh, I'm kidding, I know what they would do with him.
But there's more to this than just that.
Can we talk about these debates for a second?
If I've heard it once in this campaign, I've heard it a thousand times.
In fact, let's let's review.
Back in June, we heard that history shows that whoever is leading in the polls on June the 11th wins the presidency.
And then Hillary promptly lost the lead.
Then we were told that whoever is leading before the conventions begin, that's who's gonna win.
That's history shows us this.
And when that theory bombed out, then they said history shows Whoever is leading whoever gets the biggest bump coming out of their convention.
That's who goes on to win the White House.
Well, Hillary's lost her lead.
It's all gone.
She is losing.
I mean, they're back in business in Colorado.
Trump was down 12 to 15, if you believe that he was ever down that far, but now he's back in the lead.
Hillary pulled out of Colorado.
They got to go back.
He's up in Ohio.
He's up in Colorado.
Pennsylvania's in play.
All of these things that we were told back in June and early parts of July and August that were not in play.
In other words, they've told us how many three different ways, four different times.
The race is over, and Hillary has won it historically.
Then the next thing they tell us is.
Yeah, the debates.
Yeah.
The debates.
That that that first debate, that that's it.
I mean, that's where the whole race is.
The first debate.
Whoever comes out of that first debate, the clear winner, that's who's gonna win the White House.
Is it?
My point is they've got all these different markers.
They come up with all these different off the wall theories to try to comfort the Clinton campaign and Hillary supporters into thinking it's all wrapped up.
So now it's whoever wins the debate will win the election.
They keep telling me that on Fox, too.
They kept telling me on CNN, they the whole drive-by media tells me whoever wins the first debate will win the election.
Well, let's see.
Let's go back to 2012.
Who won the first debate between Romney and Obama?
Oh, yeah.
He cleaned the clock.
He wiped the floor with Obama in that first debate.
In fact, it was so bad that people were wondering if Obama had been drugged.
Or if Obama was sick.
Or if Obama was so overconfident that he just doesn't even show up or didn't care to be there.
It was that bad.
And then they finally said, no, you know what the price is the altitude.
He had altitude sickness.
They're out there in Colorado.
Oh, yeah, that's what it was.
Altitude sickness.
He was having trouble catching his breath.
He was having trouble getting enough oxygen in the blood.
It was altitude sickness.
That was the excuse.
The second debate, Romney was perceived to have barely won that one.
Now who won the election?
Obama.
Obama won the election.
Romney won the first debate.
They're telling us now this first debate in 11 days.
Their objective, got to keep Hillary healthy for 11 days.
She's got to win it.
That's not true.
We all remember the last debate where Candy Crowley came to Obama's rescue and basically took Romney out.
And then after all of those debates, after all three of those debates, what did the Democrats and the media tell us?
You know what?
They said the American people really don't pay all that much attention to debates.
So these people are full of it, folks.
Everything is a soap opera narrative written every day with changing goalposts, different objectives, all designed to make it look like Hillary is going to win in a walk when she is in the process of losing, and perhaps significantly so right now on her trend line, back in a sec.
Here's here's Mike in Jackson, Michigan, who uh you say that there is such a thing as bacterial pneumonia.
Yeah, there is.
In fact, it's and it's the leading cause of pneumonia in people over 30.
I'm looking this up in uh in the doctor's handbook.
In the are you are you a doctor?
No, I'm not.
Okay.
Well, I'm not either.
Uh I can read you a line out of this out of this book.
Maybe they'll convince you.
Uh go ahead.
Go ahead.
I'm I'm looking for what I've got on this too from the Obama.
Here it is.
What I've got is something called the ICD10 Data.com website.
This is a internal classification of diseases website that the Obamacare, well, the Obamacare uses as their Bible of medical coding when they are assigning coverage and payment treatment for various diseases.
It doesn't exist on this site.
So, and the site says that a lot of doctors have pointed out there isn't any such thing.
So, well, what do you have?
What is what you expect?
The Merck Manual.
That's uh it's a book put out by the drug company.
They've been publishing that for over a hundred years.
The Merck Merck manual, okay.
you can look that up online.
They have an online version of that also.
Big pharma, okay.
Well, what it says in here is it says causes, symptoms, treatment, preventative measures, and prognosis differ depending on whether the infection is a bacterial, viral, fungal, or parasitic.
So there's a lot of different things that can cause pneumonia.
So because it says bacterial, you're assuming that there is such a thing as bacterial pneumonia.
Well, yeah.
And that's that's that's really why penicillin got to be such a big drug back when that was endemic, is it?
That got rid of a lot of cases of pneumonia.
Pneumonia used to be one of the leading.
Well, no, no, wait, but nobody's saying there isn't pneumonia.
It's that these doctors are saying they've never heard of quote, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia.
In other words, Mrs. Clinton's doctor is saying she's got a version of pneumonia that's almost just like a cold or like her husband, she had the flu.
She had a flu out.
And they said, No, Miss, but she had pneumonia.
Oh, that's right.
Flu pneumonia, what's the difference?
It just means she got a bacteria in her lungs and they and I and got infected.
That's all that means.
Oh.
Okay, so they have viral pneumonia.
If you can get you can get viral pneumonia also, how the virus gets in there, I don't know.
But viral pneumonia would be a virus, and bacterial pneumonia would be what an infection?
Because it's a bacteria.
Yes, they they say streptococcus is the most common.
That's a bacteria.
Stryptococcus.
Okay.
So the Merck, big pharma drug manual, alludes to uh how to treat various cases of pneumonia and mentions the word bacterial, and so you're assuming that there's obviously such a thing as bacterial pneumonia then.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
Are you a Hillary supporter?
Oh, absolutely not.
Okay.
Who do who are you supporting?
Gary Johnson?
No, I well, I was supporting Trump, but with this daycare thing, I'm beginning to wonder now.
Don't have a lot of choices left, so I probably still have to stick with him.
Yeah, the daycare thing.
It's uh uh You know, as I said yesterday, and I guess it enraged many.
There's politics and there's ideology.
And I guess what enraged people was who the hell?
What are you politics is ideology, you doofus?
I imagine some people said.
Well, not this year.
Can somebody point to me the conservative on the ballot?
What do you mean, Rush?
Are you admitting Trump's not a conservative damn right I am?
Who's who when did I ever say that he was?
Look, I don't know how to tell you this.
Conservatism lost in the primary.
If that's how you want to look at, we had Cruz, we had Rubio.
By the way, I'm the guy.
I got in trouble for this too.
You remember when the conservative movement was disavowing Marco Rubio early on in the primaries.
The same conservatives, many of the same, who are who are now and have been trying to disavow Trump, they wanted to throw Rubio overboard because of his gang of eight.
Heresy.
And I remember.
I I I'd had my fill of it, and I remember saying on this pro came to his defense.
I said, I'm getting sick and tired of hearing how Marco Rubio is not a conservative.
He is.
All you have to do is listen to him.
And I got grief for that too.
It's it really isn't.
I made the point yesterday that that at election time, the left, no matter how much they hate each other, they hate us more, and they unify.
They come together when it's time to win.
When it's time to beat us, they come together.
We haven't figured that out.
And uh a lot of people well, yeah, Rush, that's because we got a lot of highly principled people who are not going to sell out just for the sake of winning.
Well, uh okay.
To each his own.
But I don't know, what what do you want to do with with Trump and his his daughter proposed this thing?
It had conservative elements in it, Like the savings account option.
I was not surprised by caller reaction to it.
Hey, Rush, if the federal government's passing out money, it's about time those of us who've been paying for it for 20 years got some of it back.
What are you gonna do?
Tell them you're wrong, you're betraying conservatism.
I think you should die.
What are you gonna tell them?
Is that is that the appropriate?
Well.
Look, it's the eternal question.
We had a guy earlier.
When is this going to stop?
It's gonna stop when you nominate a conservative.
It's gonna stop when there's a conservative that can win elections.
That's when it's gonna stop.
But it isn't gonna stop then, because when that happens, you better be prepared for more hate and more opposition than you've ever seen.
If a conservative was elected president, I wish it would happen, I've wished it would happen for 25 years.
You know what the left and the media would mobilize to do to deny this concern.
That's why whoever the eventual conservative winner had better be charismatic, had better be loved, had better be able to directly communicate with the American people.
And I'm not saying be Ronald Reagan Jr., anything of the sort.
I'm saying what it's gonna take.
Because the degree of opposition is even what we've seen now.
We haven't seen anything.
But the establishment's gonna come together to protect themselves, regardless of ideology.
I wish conservatism was on the ballot.
Um Mr. Sturder, let me ask you this.
Let's say uh No, never mind.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play the game.
I just what what would be the um, not gonna ask the question.
That that would just create more frustration and anger out there, and I'm trying to be a great healer here.
Moving on, who's next?
This is Randall in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
It's great that you are here.
I'm glad you waited.
Hello, sir.
Randall in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Are you there?
321.
Okay, he's not there.
What was he gonna say?
Trump was searching for a reason to vote for him, found it.
He's the only one who will put Obama in his place after his term is done.
Okay, so the guy was opposed to Obama, but wanting to find out a reason to vote for him, and he found it.
Trump's gonna be the only guy to put Obama in his place after his term's done.
What does that mean?
Why that's I I oh, oh, that that well, that's by the way.
Thanks for the reminder.
Obama has announced that he and Muchel my bell, well, no, wait, I guess she's part of it.
They're staying in Washington.
Ostensibly so that the girls can finish their education.
So they won't have to be uprooted.
Well, maybe.
But the reason Obama is staying there is to protect his legacy.
I am here to tell you, folks, whoever the next president is, if it's Hillary, if it's Trump, if it's Tim Cain, if it's Biden, if it's Crazy Bernie, whoever it is, whoever it is, the moment they try to unravel or undo anything Obama holds dear, he is gonna go to the media.
He is going to be raising holy hell about it, he's gonna be violating all of these so-called traditions of former presidents going away and shutting up and letting their successor have the stage.
That's not gonna be Obama.
You just wait.
If Hillary tries to change Obamacare, if Hillary tries to do anything, like keep Gidmo open, you name it, that might not do it, but something that he thinks is important to his legacy.
He's gonna call his buddies in the media, which is all of them.
And they're gonna raise hell.
At this new president, whoever he is.
And so this guy was saying, I want Trump.
I want Trump just just to hand it to Obama.
I want, and I think Trump will beat a guy to do that, so that's why that's what he was going to say.
Now we got another obscene profit break, folks.
We will be back after this.
Here's Karen in Durham, North Carolina.
Great to have you, Karen.
Hi.
Uh hi, how are you doing?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Thank you much.
Yeah, no, it's calling uh in regards to the uh the discussion you were having about pneumonias.
Yes, ma'am.
And uh I'm actually a physician here in Durham, North Carolina.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a physician call in before this, but uh there's absolutely bacterial pneumonia, and the reason you're having trouble finding it in the ICD-10 listing is that that's not you're not being specific enough.
It will list it by the various organisms like the pneumococcal pneumonia.
You probably have received a vaccine for that yourself to prevent pneumonia as you get older.
Um so uh the the bacterial pneumonias, there's a large number of organisms that can cause bacterial pneumonia, the most common being the streptococcal, and and that would be responsive to antibiotics, as possible viral pneumonia.
Uh doctors, I have heard doctors in the email, but my problem isn't anybody can write and say they're anything to me, and I don't know who's who.
But what I'm hearing, what I'm hearing from most people is it's it's it's not that there's no such thing as uh bacterial pneumonia.
There what people are telling me now is there's no such thing as non-contagious.
What what about this?
Is that true or not?
Um well, the if it's a bacteria, it's absolutely contagious.
So it means that she if you're talking about Hillary Clinton having a bacterial pneumonia, she has to have caught the bacteria from likely another person, either through someone coughing on her or eating or drinking after someone, so it's likely that she has caught if it is a bacteria or a virus, she's definitely caught that from someone else.
So it's contagious in that that's how she caught it.
Well, can she spread it then?
Well, sh if she is coughing on other people, she certainly can uh until the case.
Okay, well see, that's the rub because her her doctor is specifically saying it's mild non-contagious bacterial pneumonia.
That's in quotes.
That's what her doctor is saying.
And what I'm told by people claiming to be doctors is that it's contagious.
To say that it's not contagious is is not accurate.
Essentially, every time she coughs, uh, she's coughing out particles, either viral or bacterial.
Okay.
Um now, once she's been on an antibiotic for a period of time, probably twenty-four, forty-eight hours, she probably isn't contagious anymore because she's being treated.
So I don't know if her doctor is speaking to the fact that on antibiotic.
Isn't it also true that it may take two or three different times to get the antibiotic correct?
Well, if it's resistant, but if it's something like pneumococcal, it will tend to be uh pretty um uh sensitive to the antibiotics that that they're that you're normally being treated with.
I think people are familiar with the type of organisms in their particular locale, and they'll tend to treat their patients with what's gonna be most effective.
So it it may be resistant, it may get uh, you know, if she's not getting better, they may have to change her antibiotic.
But if she's been on an antibiotic since Friday, which is what we had heard on the news, then she may well not be infectious or contagious at this point.
Well, okay.
I doctor, I'm glad you got through.
I appreciate it.
I the reason why this has come up is because pneumonia's pneumonia, it's contagious, and she's hugging a child an hour and a half after her seizure and an incident in New York, and now her doctor conveniently says, Oh, it's a it's a mild case, non-contagious, uh bacterial pneumonia.
Um as is always the the thing you can't get away from with these Clintons is it's never just cut and dry.
There's always some mystery to it.
Because there's appears to be some misdirection.
But uh but Karen, Doctor, Karen Durham, North Carolina, appreciate the call.
Thank you.
I'm not even sure that it's pneumonia.
I mean, this with these people, folks, you never know how much misdirection that we're getting.
So time hotel.
Mark Stein will be here tomorrow, uh, taking an extended three-day weekend.
Some things to do, and I'll be back on Monday.
We'll look forward to seeing you then, folks.
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