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April 25, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 25, 2016, Monday, Hour #3
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Well, it's it's pretty it's it's sad news out there, folks.
It looks like the Cruz Kasich agreement is starting to unravel.
It looks like the Cruz Kasich Pact is starting to fray a little bit out there.
Greetings and welcome back, Rushlin Ball.
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Okay, I get it.
Folks, I find you want me to weigh in on the morality of the rules.
That's I know what I think I finally get it.
You all want me to pronounce the rules as having sucked.
You want me to proclaim that these rules are rotten.
Uh and and not that they're unfair, that they're just they're just part and parcel of the problem.
Sure, sure, sure, these are the rules.
But are they right?
Are they are they morally correct?
Rightly or wrongly, Trump has exposed this process.
You know, keep saying to people, hey, this is what it's always been.
And people, yeah, yeah, well, well, no, no wonder we didn't like it.
Our instincts are right.
No wonder we tuned out of it.
Our instincts were right.
Trump's exposed what a phony baloney plastic banana good time rock and roller process this is.
Well, I it it's what it's always been.
I mean, it's how Abe Lincoln was elected, folks.
It's how Ronald Reagan almost won the nomination in 1976.
It's time honored, uh, if you will, and it's it's simply candidates using remaining devices available to them to uh to try to win.
But I'm I'm looking at what's happening here with the uh uh the Kasich and the Cruz agreement here, and it's already starting to unravel, and the Hill.com has the story.
And I'll tell you, I know exactly what's going on.
I have finally figured this out too.
Here's here first off is the uh is the story.
Republican presidential candidate John Kasich today said that Indiana's voters should still vote for him despite despite an alliance with Ted Cruz to clear the way for his presidential rival in the state's Republican primary.
Kasich said, I never told them not to vote for me.
They ought to vote for me.
I'm not out there campaigning and spending resources.
I'm not gonna be spending resources in Indiana.
Cruz isn't gonna spend resources.
So what?
Well, the whole idea here is for Cruz to win Indiana and deny as many delegates as possible to Trump, and now Kasich's running around telling people in Indiana to vote for him whether he's spending money or not.
I'll tell you what's going on here with Kasich.
I think we are watching a man live out his fantasy.
And I think he ought to complete it.
And you and I first got wind of this, uh because it always seemed odd.
This Kasich campaign to me has always seemed a little odd because he's never he's not winning anything.
He didn't win a single state.
Uh there didn't seem to be any reason for his campaign in terms of actually winning it.
But when he fired the confetti gun after winning the Ohio primary, so okay, we we got some Walter Middy action going on here.
I mean, you win your own state and you fired a confetti gun.
What they fire confetti guns at Super Bowls.
You know, you you you fire your own confetti gun winning your own state, which is an expectation.
It's not an achievement.
It is an expectation.
And then we heard today that Kasich says he is vetting vice presidential nominees, that he is already vetting potential vice presidential nominees to run with him.
Folks, this is somebody living out of fantasy.
I think we can expect before this campaign ends an inaugural address.
We can expect a couple of uh inaugural balls that take place under the guise of uh celebrations after states have conducted their elections or what have you.
Uh Maybe we're gonna have uh even the naming of uh a cabinet as as part of this, because I I think I think Governor Kasich is is living the dream here.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he picked Cruz as his VP, you know, after going through the the uh Rigamer role here, but I mean what what a headline.
Kasich wants Indiana votes despite Cruz pact.
I mentioned that that Trump is back to Trump.
Trump is back to being Trump.
Trump is back on the Trump role.
He was in Warwick, Rhode Island this afternoon, and listen to this.
Did you see the news today?
Did you see where they band together where they collude?
You know, it's collusion.
You know, if you collude in business or if you collude in the stock market, they put you in jail.
But in politics, because it's a rigged system, because it's a corrupt enterprise, in politics, you're allowed to collude.
So they colluded, and actually I was happy because it shows how weak they are.
It shows how pathetic they are.
Folks, I'm sorry, I can't let that go by.
Am I just supposed to sit here and ignore that?
I am, aren't I?
I'm not supposed to, I'm not supposed to react to that.
There is no criminal enterprise here.
But then the you know, the the the Trump acolytes are gonna be out there full speed ahead on this meme now.
Oh, yeah.
Do you see Kresik and Cruz?
They're cheating.
They're colluding.
It's like Wall Street.
You collude in the stock market.
He put you in jail, but not in colluding.
I guess you can never co-sponsor legislation ever again because you're colluding.
That means.
Anyway, uh here's the next Trump soundbite.
This is I heard it last night at 11:30.
I was called and they said, sir, Kasich, we call him one for 41.
I thought it was 38.
He's won one race in 41 states.
One, okay?
States and islands.
So I call him now.
I have a new nickname for him.
One for 41.
Very soon it's gonna be one for 46 or seven.
So he's going nowhere.
And it wasn't finished.
You know, once once you step into it with Trump, you had better be prepared to be swallowed.
Because that's what's gonna happen to you.
Here we go again.
Now you look at Kasich, I don't think he knows what you know.
Did you see him?
He has a news conference all the time when he's eating.
I have never seen a human being eat in such a disgusting fashion.
I'm always telling my young son Baron, I'm saying, and I always with my kids, all of them.
I'd say, children, small little bites, small.
This guy takes a pancake and he's shoving in his mouth.
It's disgusting.
Do you want that for your president?
I don't think so.
No.
I did I not tell you though, did I not even I, your humble servant Ill Rushbone noticed the way Kasich was eating it?
You just don't do that.
He Trump's right.
I didn't know whether it was half of an omelet or half of a pancake, but he was shoveling it there all the while berating a reporter.
And little bits of food were spidling out of his mouth while he's talking to him.
And I said, I can't believe this.
But I actually saw it.
And as you know, Cruz has been running around saying that Donald Trump is scared.
So you know that Trump at some point's gonna react to that.
He's now in third place.
But I heard Cruz say this.
I want to debate Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is afraid to debate me.
He's afraid, you know, with a hand drawn, oh yeah, yeah.
So dramatic.
So dramatic.
You know the truth?
I heard he was a good debater in college.
And you know what?
He might be, but in college, they don't interrupt you every 15 words like I do with him.
Right.
So uh Trump's back to being Trump, Trump's back on his role And full fledged energy.
And whatever all this talk about making Trump presidential.
Who says that isn't presidential, by the way?
See, that's another thing.
I think people say, what is this presidential?
What is presidential mean boring?
Why does presidential have to mean why can't somebody be who they really are?
And Trump is actually being who he is.
And that is what is attractive in many ways for Trump.
Folks, there's there's other stuff in the news out there besides all of this.
I tried not to get too far behind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, the knife and fork eating the pizza slice, casic knife and fork, pizza slice, and then shoveling this paint.
You should have seen it.
It really was.
You just don't do it.
I mean, you don't do it anytime, but you don't do it in politics.
You never ever see a serious politician eating, even at a banquet.
You don't see them eat.
They eat before or after, but never at the event.
You don't have time anyway.
You're posing for pictures, you're giving speech, your uh signing autograph, whatever you do, you don't have time to eat.
Um, you know what?
Let me take a break here because we get some great people lined up on the phones.
They've been waiting for quite a while, and this stack of stuff is gonna remain the stack of stuff.
But there's a couple of things.
Let me give you the headline.
The green war against the working class.
This is from the Heritage Foundation.
It's a great, great Sir Stephen Moore piece.
And it's it's about uh green energy and the havoc it's causing just throughout the mainstream of our culture.
Pope Francis tells teenagers happiness is not an app that you can download.
Wonder how many people were shocked when they heard that.
We've talked about this before.
This story's not going away.
The number of middle-aged white people committing suicide in this country is soaring.
White middle class Americans are committing suicide at an alarming rate.
Uh story here attempts to delve into why.
Intel has hired 15,000 immigrants and then laid off 12,000 American workers.
This is this B1B visa story.
You know what this really is?
You know, when you when you see, I know a lot of you people like Facebook, and some of you might think Mark Zuckerberg's a great guy.
And Zuckerberg is leading this uh uh supposed pro-immigration open borders based on compassion movement.
But what Zuckerberg actually wants is what all of Silicon Valley wants is cheaper labor.
And it's the old story you've heard about Disney.
They hired a bunch of people who were uh from foreign countries and made they fired existing workers, Americans, and hire their replacements the cheaper, and then made the current employees train them.
That story came up during the campaign earlier.
The the thing with with Intel and all the other companies doing this, the real issue behind all this, that there's a reason for all of these things happening.
It's it's not, I mean, why do companies want cheap labor?
Well, it's in the book, it's in the manual.
You want the cheapest labor you can to maximize profits, but there's more than that.
There are reasons why you want cheap labor just beyond what's in the book.
There are extenuating circumstances, and one of the biggest unspoken extenuating circumstances is Obamacare and the never-ending list of demanded and required benefits that American companies must pay their employees.
Now, in the case of Intel here, they they hire 15,000 immigrants who will not be immediately Qualified for Obamacare, nor will they immediately qualify for benefits.
The 12,000 people they fire, they are offloading Obamacare responsibilities.
They are offloading a lot of benefit demands that come from federal policy.
So Intel is basically shedding a large portion of its American workforce while it goes to every length possible to import more immigrants to the U.S. because it's cheaper, but not just because it's cheaper because they're immigrants and they don't have standing and so forth, it's because they are not subject to all the Obamacare requirements and other benefits packages.
All of these things get pooled together and they matter.
And the left comes up with all these brilliant great programs, and they just assume that businesses are going to sit there and pay and pay and pay, whatever new tax fulfill whatever benefit, they look at these things and they do not re do not score the results of these pieces of legislation in a dynamic way at all.
They do it very static.
And all of these good intentions, health care, affordable health care for all Americans, ends up with nobody having better health care, nobody has cheaper health care, and in fact, people are getting fired because they're required to have health care provided.
It's it's it's just it's tragic what is happening to this country emanating from liberal left wing, do gooder, well-intentioned policies.
And the real irony here is that all these CEOs are donating and contributing to the Democrat Party so forth.
That's why the Democrats are helping them on immigration and all that.
But the people getting caught in the middle, white working class Americans being aced out of jobs here and there for one reason or another, and the very flavor and shape and form of the culture.
Our society is being made over each and every day.
Gradually, in ways that people don't even notice it.
In some ways, people applaud it.
It's under the guise of diversity or openness or what have you.
But the basic foundation that was this country is being undermined each and every day, primarily from Washington, D.C. And policies that emanate from the Democrat Party.
And by the way, the Republicans don't get a pass because they haven't stopped it in seven and a half years.
I can never leave that out of the equation.
The most listened to radio talk show in the country, the most talked-about host of the most talked-about show in the country, have my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
And here is Amanda in Atlanta.
Great to have you with us.
Hi.
Hi.
Long-term listener, first-time caller.
Great to have you with us, Amanda.
Okay.
Reason why I called was in 2012, I was a state delegate to the Georgia convention.
And what a lot of listeners probably don't realize because they don't uh get involved at the local level and then go through to the state level is that while it's not necessarily cheating, a lot of underhanded things do go on.
We saw firsthand how rules were changed and implemented specifically to reduce the impact of the Ron Paul supporters.
And we were at the convention for many, many hours before we actually.
See, that that is, by the way, folks, that is an excellent point.
A lot of this stuff, like Rule 40B that we've all talked about this year.
Rule 40B states that a nominee cannot win the nomination, that a candidate cannot win the nomination unless he wins a majority of delegates in eight states.
That's Rule 40B, that's from 2012.
That rule was written in 2012 to stop Ron Paul From pulling some chicanery with Romney.
There are going to be rules written at this year's convention.
There's a rules committee at every convention.
There's going to be a platform.
There's going to be delegate rules, all kinds of rules that will be written that govern this convention.
Now, normally what happens is that in an average campaign year, the nominee is known before the convention.
The nominee wins in a primaries early enough so that the nominee is in charge of all that.
The nominee gets to determine, the nominee becomes a de facto head of the party.
And the nominee gets to determine who heads the committees, what the rules are going to be, what the platform's going to be.
The convention ends up being a mirror of the nominee.
It's the way it's always been.
It's just the way it's always been.
It's part of uh the power that accrues to winning.
I didn't mean to use a cruise.
I'm not talking Ted there.
It's it's one of the benefits of winning is that you get to run the convention.
Well, who's going to do that?
If nobody gets to 1237 before the convention, and there's not going to be a nominee before the convention, therefore there's no nominee who gets to run the.
Well, it's the RNC that's going to run it.
And then after a nominee is chosen, then the real meat and potatoes begins.
Then the rulemaking and uh delegate selection process changes, party platform, all of that.
And it's uh hardly any of it is ever, ever seen.
It's all backstage stuff.
It's always been backstage stuff.
Trump just happens to be exposing a lot of it in this campaign.
Last week on this program, the, and I referenced this earlier in today's program.
The uh North Carolina bathroom law was discussed, and and and Trump said something that I thought there might be a little blowback on.
I didn't think anything but Trump's gonna ever be major blowback, because his his crowd is is loyally glued to him.
But nevertheless, I I thought there might be some like if if Trump comes out for massive tax increases, I'm thinking maybe there could be some Trump people that'll pause, say, wait a minute, I don't associate massive tax increases with Trump.
Um and I I thought this bathroom law and the way he came out basically in in favor of the change.
I thought, well, there might be some blowback.
There wasn't any blowback to it.
This is in fact, it was uh when did I say this was uh Bloomberg talked about this.
I guess this is right after Friday's show.
John Heileman and Mark Halperon uh talked about Trump saying that he disagreed with the new North Carolina bathroom law and to set it up.
They played an audio soundbite of moi.
No problem with LGBT bathrooms.
I mean, if you think you're a woman at two o'clock this afternoon and want to use the ladies' room, have at it.
If you're really a guy, it doesn't matter.
If you like a woman, go in, no problem.
We'll see if there's any blowback on that.
So with these comments, Trump has now taken a position that could hurt him in this nomination fight and potentially help him in a general election.
John, is Trump taking this position, you think, out of principle or a sense of the politics of it?
Okay, so that's Halperan, and he's asking, asking Heileman, and here's Heileman's answer.
Principle, and of course it suggests something not flattering about Trump, which is that in my judgment, Trump is probably, I think in his gut, a social liberal.
I think his position on abortion, for instance, the position he held for most of his life is the real position when he really thinks about abortion.
I think on this issue, he's like most Manhattanites or most New Yorkers.
He's basically a social liberal.
I think he's saying what's in his heart.
I also think he knows that it helps him politically in the general election.
These two other gentlemen, Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Cruz, you know, they're obviously incredibly crude in how they talk about this issue and have no real respect for people who are transgendered, but I think Trump speaking his heart.
I think he is speaking his heart, and that's what's leading it, but it's clearly has potential political benefit.
If Trump can take the sting out of social issues in a general election, uh issues of tolerance that a lot of young voters care about and make this in a general election if he's a nominee about economics and about competence, his chances of winning are a lot greater.
So I think it's leading with his heart.
You know, see, it's fascinating to me to watch people make Trump into what they want him to be.
So here you have these two guys, Heileman and Halpern, who are liberals.
And they want to like Trump, I think.
And so when it comes to abortion, they're gonna, yeah, you know what?
Trump's real position is ours.
Yeah, he's pro-choice.
And when it comes to transgender bathrooms, yeah, yeah, Trump is, he's just telling, he just he's just acting like a conservative now and then when he thinks he has to put who he really is, is who we are, and then that enables them to like Trump.
And then of course the gratuitous slam at me and Mr. Cruz uh incredibly crude in how we talk about the issue.
I don't think there's anything crude in describing the issue the way it is.
But nevertheless, Mr. Snerdley will back me up on this because I asked Mr. Snerdley, do you think that Trump's gonna walk this back?
And Snurdley looked at me, and no way he's no way Trump walks this back.
He's gonna stick with what he said.
Except Trump did backtrack a bit.
Now he didn't walk it all the way back.
He did, but don't get mad, I'm not criticizing Trump here.
I'm just telling you who he did walk it back because there are people on both sides of the aisle that want Trump to be what they want him to be and find ways to make him what they want him to be.
So if you're a leftist and you're pro-choice, and you want to support Trump, then of course you're gonna say, what he really is.
He's pro-choice, he's just lying that he's Republicans when he has to.
He's really one of us.
We're cool and he's cool and everything's cool.
Uh and the same thing with the with the transgendered bathrooms.
So and people on the on the right will say the same thing.
They'll say, yeah, Trump, you know, he really, really is pro-life.
But he's a New Yorker and he wants to get these left-wing votes, and he's trying to expand.
So he'll go out and say things that he really doesn't think that anybody ought to be able to walk in and use any bathroom anytime they want, but he's gonna say that because it's gonna be attractive to the left.
So both sides do this with Trump.
Both sides, left and right, Republican and Democrat, Mars and Venus, whatever, both assigned to Trump various things that he believes in order to make themselves feel at home with him.
But I just wanted to point out here that Thursday night on Hannity, that Mr. Trump came back from his original position on this.
Question, I wanted to give you a chance.
This is Hannity.
I wanted to give you a chance to explain your position on that bathroom business in North Carolina as it relates to transgenders picking which bathroom they want to go to.
See, this was a do-over.
Uh many it's it's rare in conservative media you get a do-over.
Remember John Kerry got a do-over a couple times in the 2004 presidential campaign.
I don't remember specifically what.
But some CBS reporter asked him a question or two, and he just flubbed them.
He flubbed the answers big time, and they gave him a do-over.
And so Trump appeared with Hannity on Thursday night on Fox, and Sean gave him a chance to take another shot at this with the question, I want to give you a chance to explain your position on that as it relates to transgenders picking which bathroom they want to go to.
I can't believe I'm asking a question, Mr. Trump, but I am.
And here's what Trump said.
We have to take care of everybody, frankly, and North Carolina, which is a great place, which I won, by the way.
I love North Carolina, and they have a law, and it's a law that, you know, unfortunately is causing them some problems.
And I fully understand if they want to go through, but they are losing business, and they are having a lot of people uh come out against.
Uh with me, I look at it differently.
A community, whether it's North Carolina or local communities, really, they should be involved.
We have so many big issues to be thinking about.
We have ISIS to worry about, we have bringing trade back, we have rebuilding our military.
But I think this, I think that local communities and states should make the decision.
And I feel very strongly about that.
The federal government should not be involved.
Right, so that's a little bit of a walk back because he's basically deferring to North Carolina to do what they did there.
Well, okay, it's a lot of walkback.
I'm trying to be polite here, but that was a lot of walk back.
And I'm t I I told you it would happen.
I told you it would happen.
Because Trump's first allegiance in this primary is to people on the right and Republicans.
That's who his base is.
And then the gravy is whatever leftists that he can attract.
Um so I'm I just wanted to get that in before the program ended today.
We'll be back with more in a moment.
Lisa in Perry, North Carolina.
Great to have you with us.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
How are you?
Very well.
Thank you.
Good.
Thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
Um, I just wanted to express my frustration with the Trump supporters who are constantly complaining about Ted Cruz playing the rig system and doing what the Liberals would do, and that's what they don't like.
When Trump has all but admitted that he used to play the system which is rigged towards business people who can make large donations to candidates who can get them what they need later.
Like his contributing to Hillary Clinton, um Chuck Schumer.
You know, now I have to say, just in terms of logic, that's a good rejoinder.
Trump has himself bragged.
He has himself used as an well, that's the system.
I I I did a lot of Democrats where I live.
I had to donate to Democrats.
That's how the system worked.
That's I that's a fair point you're making.
They don't seem to see it at all.
It's like everything else, I guess you've said that he can do what he is gonna do and they're gonna stay loyal to him.
Well, it's one of these things.
When your guy does it, it's fine.
When it's done to you, it's cheating.
It's like if you've got a guy named Roger Stone threatening delegates, that's cool.
That's using your power.
It's not thuggery when he does it.
But yeah, but if Roger Stone does it to you, well, that's not fair and let's rigged and what have you.
Uh I use Roger Stone generically here.
I I'm just uh I don't know what Stone does.
I just uh using a name generically.
But that's actually that's actually a very uh very good point.
Are you a Cruz supporter?
I am, and I like to think of myself as a constitutional conservative.
Right.
So I'm finding this entire season a little bit.
Let me ask, look, I've got 45 seconds.
Let's let's play a game.
Hype, but let's say let's say Cruz pulls this off, just play the game here, and in the second or third ballot gets the nomination.
Do you think there's any possibility of party unity after that?
Do you think that there can be any way?
Well, I think there can be with the with the conservatives who are maybe Trump supporters.
Not maybe not the people, the independents and the more liberal leaning people that we think or people say that Trump is bringing in.
Right.
But I think the conservatives would understand, again, like you've repeated over and over, we need to beat Hillary.
Yeah, uh that that's when all is said and done, that remains the primary objective.
That must happen.
Lisa, thank you so much for the call.
A brief timeout, back to wrap it up in a moment.
It is so good to be back, folks.
I missed being here on Friday, and glad to be back.
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