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So we have this Wall Street Journal poll today that says 62% of Republicans say that the candidate with the most votes in the primary should be the nominee.
Screw this 1237 business, just whoever gets the most votes, the plurality.
62%.
Meanwhile, over the RNC, Rince Priebus has laid down a pretty clear marker over how many delegate votes it's going to take to win the nomination.
Rince Prebis says 1237 or bust.
There is no plurality.
I don't care what anybody else says.
Now, he made the statement before the NBC Wall Street Journal poll came out, but not that it would change anything.
But here's a let's see, a poll quote.
Is this a poll quote from uh Rince Prebis?
No, but here's one from Cucinelli, who's a cruise delegate.
He said, This is a banana republic approach from the Trump team because they're getting beat on the ground.
They have a media campaign that, you know, gets a lot of media attention, but Ted Cruz has built a grassroots campaign on people and people's vision across America.
So this is a basically a story about a crew is just cleaning up delegate-wise at all of these various state conventions.
And it's it's uh it's headlined in a couple of stories here.
I must have put it at the bottom of the stack, but it's it's about how Trump is just getting shellacked.
I mean, that's I think it's even mentioned in the yeah, Trump massacred in delegate fights once more.
This is uh politico.
More than 90 delegates up for grab Saturday.
Ted Cruz grabbed most of them.
And in fact, CNN is running a story right now about how this is funny.
CNN's running a story.
They were, it's not up there now.
They're running a story about how even Trump delegates are starting to cool to Trump.
Yes, the full court press is on.
Meanwhile, associated press story headline major fight brewing at RNC rules meeting this week in an extraordinary display of internal discord.
The chairman of the Republican Party's rules committee accused top Republican officials Saturday of a breach of our trust by improperly trying to impede a proposed change in bylaws that would make it harder for party leaders to nominate a fresh candidate for president.
This is Bruce Ash, a Republican National Committee committeeman from Arizona, wrote the harshly worded email to the other 55 members of the GOP Rules Committee that he chairs.
The confidential email obtained by the AP was written days before party officials gather in Hollywood, Florida for preliminary discussions about what the rules the GOP will use at the convention in July.
Bruce Ash says he's been troubled, he's become troubled during discussions with Rince Prebis and other party officials that by not making the proposed change, Republican officials could use their power to attempt to achieve a political result at the nominating convention.
So this is all about a breach of our trust, improperly trying to impede a proposed change in bylaws that would make it harder.
So you you you've got some party officials that want to make it harder for the establishment to say choose a Jeb or a Paul Ryan.
And others are not crazy about this.
So this is gonna be decided, maybe at the rules convention this week.
And all of this as a backdrop to uh Rince Priebus again saying that we need 1237 or bust.
There isn't gonna be any situation where a candidate with a plurality is named our nominee.
So the plot continues to thicken.
Now, on this uh on this white privilege business, I I had no idea.
I really did not know that there was a white privilege conference.
The Daily Caller News Foundation attended the 17th annual white privilege conference in Philadelphia.
It ended yesterday, April 15th through 17.
And I boil this down to its essence.
The white privilege conference is made up of African Americans, Hispanics, minorities, people of color, including Native Americans.
And the upshot comes from activist and author Paul Kivill, K I V E L. According to this guy, just about everything bad in the world can be traced to the core ideas of Christianity.
In the United States, there's seven to ten thousand predominantly white Christian men who run the major institutions of our society.
The corporations, the political parties, the think tanks, the foundations, universities, and cultural institutions.
He made his case the U.S. exists as a Christian hegemony by asking attendees to consider a variety of ways Christianity equally or quietly influence their daily lives.
Like making Sunday, the normative day of rest, by motivating nonprofits, ranging from the YMCA to drug rehab.
All of these are scourges, he says, and they derive from the white Christian hegemony.
He explained how Christianity provides the ideological underpinning of just about everything toxic in our society.
He said three problems are particularly severe in the modern world, and all of them are caused or made worse by Christianity.
He said the wars in the Middle East are a byproduct of a missionary drive to spread Western ideas and influence in non Western lands.
He then said that Christianity is to blame for a weak economy, as it provides the godlike invisible hand that supposedly drives market forces within a flawed capital system.
And third, this guy Kivill associated Christian hegemony with global warming.
Are you ready for this?
Because under Christianity, mankind has dominion over the earth rather than requiring that humans treat the earth itself as sacred.
Now, the details, forget them.
The point is that there's an all-out assault, folks, on Christianity, and you know it as well as I do, and that's why all these religious freedom laws in state after state are being written and passed, because these coordinated attacks on Christianity and Christian values, which are now said to be American values, are in full swing, happening full speed ahead.
And they wouldn't be getting anywhere if it weren't for the fact that they have a home in the Democrat Party.
It all comes back to that.
You could have this bunch of ragtag protesters, this amalgamation of a bunch of different minorities, but if they didn't have the support of the Democrat Party pushing their agenda, make no mistake, the Democrat Party is fully behind this.
And I know you're saying, but Rush, but Rush, what about all the white Christians?
Yeah, what about them?
What about all the what about all the Democrat Catholics?
It doesn't it doesn't dominate them.
They fall into line with it.
The Democrat Party owes everything to minorities and minority support.
So that's what the Democrat Party is.
The Democrat Party is an amalgam of a bunch of different constituencies.
Individual constituency groups, and they are aligned.
One of them is hatred of Republicans and conservatives and increasingly hatred of America.
And they all love big government as the instrument to accomplish their objectives.
And that's what aligns them with the Democrat Party.
And since the Democrat Party wants big government, they'll they'll embrace anybody that wants to join the movement and give outward tacit approval to whatever each little constituency group's agenda happens to be.
You think it's an accident that Hillary Clinton shows up at Al Sharpton's conference, starts talking about white privilege, condemning it, saying we all must be aware of it.
We must be guilty.
We must understand our role in white privilege and how it's unfair.
You understand now why white privilege is essentially the state of existence at practically every major university in this country, the attack on white privilege, the condemnation of it, the definition of it.
It is a growing movement, and it's perceived to be the majority, so that's why it's being blamed.
That's why it's under attack.
But as I say, it wouldn't have any legs whatsoever if it weren't for the Democrat Party.
Gonna take a brief time out and come back and resume shortly, my friends.
It won't be long.
Be back right.
Okay, back to the phones.
Rachel, hi.
It's great to have you with us.
Hello.
Hi, thank you for taking a call.
I also want to say thank you for being the voice of reason in this crazy campaign season.
So that we appreciate it out here.
Thank you very much.
I'm in the state of Indiana, and I kind of wanted to the whole idea of the Cruz having some slick campaign, at least here in this state, is an absolute fallacy from what we're seeing.
Um from what I can see, he's more the beneficiary of you know the GOP go get Trump campaign, and he's number two, so he's benefiting from that.
But here in this state, uh the Trump campaign is all in.
We have uh three um three offices up and running.
I'm actually at one right now.
I came in on Saturday just to volunteer, and it was fun.
So I came back today.
And um I don't think Cruz even has any, has any um offices up and running in Indiana yet, and we're two weeks out.
Um also this week, rumor is both of them will be in the state, Cruz and Trump.
And keep in mind, I actually like Cruz.
I'm not like some anti-cruise person, I'm really not.
But um Trump is, you know, rumor is he's gonna be here on Wednesday talking to the people at the carrier plant for people outside of Indiana.
Carrier is a huge, huge story here.
We've lost um a couple thousand jobs because of the movie to Mexico.
So crew uh Trump is coming to speak to the people at the carrier plant the following night on Thursday, Cruz is going to the Indiana GOP Spring Dinner to speak to the inside GOPers.
And I know you might think, well, he's smart, he's playing the game.
But the truth of the matter is the way our 57 delegates are awarded, um, it's pretty fair in this state the way it works.
So you know, I guess I just appreciate that I see Trump out there trying to talk to the people while the other campaigns are trying to schmooth, you know, the GOP.
Wait a minute.
Trump's out talking to people while Cruz is out talking to delegates.
Is that what you mean?
Well, yeah.
I mean, uh, this is a perfect example.
Um, this week, if you can believe the rumors, and I think they're probably accurate at this point, isn't on the news.
Wednesday, Trump is supposed to be here doing a rally.
Wait a minute, just because Trump's gonna be there does not mean he's actively working the convention for delegates like Cruz is.
I mean, that's oh no, you know what?
I I think you're right.
I don't think he's actively working the delegates.
I think he's speaking his mind and having people listen.
And that's why I think people like getting behind him, because he's he's he's doing big, you know, picture um you know, he's thinking big, he's he's talking from his heart.
He's probably more worried about doing what he feels is right for the country than running around and schmoozing delegates at dinners.
Yeah.
And I I understand that might be the smart thing, but just from an average Joe like me who just, you know, actually was a cruise supporter, but because of the numbers, he can't get to 1237 realistically.
I don't want to see a contested convention.
I don't ch trust French Priebus at all.
I I I think I'm sorry, I I I don't trust him.
So I don't want to go to Cleveland and have this disgusting display of what's going to happen.
Look, I hate R Rachel.
You I I just I need to tell you, Cruz opened an office in Indianapolis five days ago.
He is there.
I mean he may have snuck in there and you haven't seen him, but he's there.
I Googled it uh the other day because I'm like, where is you know i I I got a call that's kind of funny while I was working here on Saturday volunteering, just putting signs together.
I actually got a call from somebody who said they were with the cruise campaign and Lawrence Township or something like that.
So I let the guy speak, obviously.
I let him tell his, you know, what he wanted to say.
And then I let him know that I actually was a cruise supporter.
I bought the cruise t shirt, have it hanging up in my closet kind of thing, and my whole point and and I told him the reason why I've kind of.
But you told the guy that your cruise t shirts in the closet.
Yeah, and I'm working I was working at the Trump headquarters.
But anyway, yeah, my my crew the reason being is first of all, I do like what Trump says.
I like both of them, quite frankly.
But I think we all need to get under, you know, on one side because I contest the convention is a disaster for our party.
I I I hate what I'm seeing, you know, the never Trump people and you're only saying that because your fear a contestant convention could take it away from Trump, and that's what you're saying.
There's no question of it.
No, it really isn't.
It really isn't.
I swear on my kids' lives, I I like both people.
And I was leaning towards the Yeah, you say that, but your cruise t shirts in the closet and you're wearing your Trump t shirt.
I mean that's the proof.
Look, I got I I have to I have to run Rachel.
I I'm just joking with you.
I appreciate the call.
She's uh she's an on the spot uh new journalist uh telling us that uh Trump's all over the state and Cruz hadn't been seen.
Here's uh here's Craig in Denver.
Craig, great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Um I'm uh uh title holding member of the uh Republican Party apparatus in one of the counties out in Colorado.
Um I was elected by my uh precinct to to go to the state convention.
Um wait, wait, wait, wait.
There was an election in Colorado?
The the the caucuses.
I was elected in my precinct caucus.
Damn.
Cool.
Okay.
Um I'm a cruise donor.
Um I've been getting emails from Ted Cruz.
Um I see all the emails from the party, I'm part of it.
And I've never seen anything from uh the the cruise campaign or from the the the party about organizing to swing things for Trump.
Every call I got was from fellow delegates who were organizing out here.
Um or caucus system out here allows us to do that, it facilitates that.
Uh primary system wouldn't allow us to do that.
The the the Wait a minute, I lost you.
What w what's the big deal about not hearing from anybody from the cruise camp?
Um there there's Trump has been um accusing the the the the party is is is trying to swing this uh election for Well, he says you canceled an election and and then the cruise went in there and stole all the delegates.
That was the straw poll.
And the straw polls um when we we've always done straw polls in elections until this year, and it was canceled because of a change in the national party rules.
They changed the party rules in the national so that if we had a straw poll here or or it was about binding your delegates, right?
Binding our delegates.
They wanted to bind your delegates and you didn't want to have your delegates bound.
Exactly.
So you said the hell with the party rules we want our delegates to be unbound.
Well, you can't say the hell of the party rules.
Well, we did we canceled the the straw poll, so he wouldn't bound our bind our delegates.
Well, I don't mean to hell, but but you you were you found a workaround.
Yeah, we just found a workaround.
If if if we'd had that straw poll when when uh the decision was made, Trump would have probably won that poll.
That was back when we still had uh Well, that's what Trump is saying you took it away from him.
Well, not exactly, no.
This is our system.
Um another thing to to note is the delegation that we're sending from the State Convention to Cleveland.
A quarter of the people in in in that delegation are are pledged to Trump.
But they're the alternates, not the delegates.
So the the delegate counties are not hard numbers.
If some of our delegates don't show up.
Yeah, but the majority of them are for Ted Cruz, right?
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
But i if some of our cruise delegates don't show up, they they can get replaced.
Let me let me just ask you one I've got one minute.
What is your real reaction when when Trump's out there saying you canceled an election so that you can deny people a right to vote so that Cruz could win the delegates.
How do you respond to that?
I'm insulted.
Um I was taken aback at at how fast and how furious the response was uh uh particularly out here.
Hey, this is America.
You start telling people they were denied the right to vote, they're gonna react.
And that's what Trump told them.
Well, we did vote.
We voted in the caucuses and we voted in the caucuses to elect delegates to the State Convention to choose the delegates there.
That's our system.
That's how we do it.
If we had given it And you did it because the RNC was trying to get you to bind your delegates.
Look at I'm the first one to g I'm the first one to say the rules are the rules.
It's up to Canada's to know 'em.
The only thing Cruz is guilty of here is winning.
You know, and everybody wants to be spoiled sport about it and try to make something of it.
That's what Trump's doing.
Perception wise, he's succeeding.
Here's Len in uh running me, New Jersey.
Len, thank you for calling.
It's great to have you here.
Hi.
Hi, Raj.
How are you doing, sir?
Very well, sir.
Appreciate the uh first be real quick.
I gotta my brother wouldn't forgive me if I didn't say my brother Pete.
I lost him recently.
Uh, and uh he was a big supporter of you and loved you and loved uh Mark Levin and the whole the whole movement.
And so do I, okay.
But I gotta take exception to what you are saying, okay.
First of all, you keep I feel you're soft pedaling what's happening now.
It's not rules and process as you as you kind of you know use use those words and say, well, uh Ted Cruz knows the rules and and he follows the rules and he's just beating Trump out.
No, it's bad faith practices.
Again, I'm gonna repeat it.
Bad faith practices on the part of the Republican National Committee.
Anyway, you cut it.
And and the state committees.
And for example, you failed to mention that in Florida, as you mentioned about the Florida three uh three first three ballots, you know, are bound.
But you also fail to mention, unless I missed it, that the chairman of Florida appoints the first thirty delegates to to the you know, appoints the first thirty delegates.
And he's uh strong Rubio and Cruz guy.
Well no, I've I've got I've got the story here about that, and that guy is denying all of that.
The story's out there that the guy in charge of delegate appointment or has a role in it, um was a big Rubio fan.
And after that was a was a big Cruz fan.
This guy is acting like he's just offended at all, get out that this has been alleged about him and says that it isn't true.
Well, look at Trump's got the delegates for the first doesn't matter what the delegates think in Florida, they have to vote Trump.
He gets all 99 of them.
For three ballots.
It's not gonna take it's not gonna take more than three.
Yeah, but I uh without getting to the minutiae, just looking at this in general, let's let's look at it this way.
You and I were raised, I'm sure, to understand you want to change things in this society in this country, you vote, not you go out and become a legalese expert.
Cruz is attorney, okay?
And he's in the system.
So you know, of course.
He you know, wait a second.
Are you saying that Cruz somehow is is not justified in doing because he's just a lawyer taking advantage of all the fine print?
No, let me let me say how what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that it's like analogous to the fine print in the contract that's been used for decades, maybe centuries, to basically not swindle, because hey, it's in the fine print.
How many times have people been screwed?
Ryan, I know.
It's how you rig things.
It's how corporations they put in their in their fine print and their uh the thing you have to sign, uh, like when you upgrade your software, you could be giving away your first two kids and not know it because nobody reads the stuff.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And that's that's my objection to this whole.
And so to finalize, you to come full circle here with the with the conversation.
People say, and you said it, well, why isn't Cruz, I mean, why doesn't Trump go out and just simply, you know, close the deal by being a better ground guy, whatever.
Well, when I'm fighting, when I fight those kind of fights where I feel, you know, it's bad faith uh type of uh uh agreement or uh position.
I say, no, I don't recognize it.
You know, it's not it it's no credibility there.
I'm calling you on bad faith.
You know, this is what I say.
I'm calling you on bad faith um whatever it is, agreement or whatever.
And I think that's what Trump is doing.
He's calling the National Republican committee out on bad faith practices.
That's what he's doing.
He doesn't use those words.
I know what he's doing.
He's he's he's he's accusing them of rigging the system so that elections are being canceled in some cases, or people's votes are not counting as they should, or people are not being allowed to vote, period.
Now, all I've said about this, well, uh repeat it very briefly.
My my most recent point on this was that if Trump doesn't like these rules, he has every opportunity and every right to go to all of these different state conventions, because he finds out about this back in August.
Don't think that he didn't know, Len.
If campaign could have gone into any of these states and said, you know what, you guys, you're you're you're denying your own people in this state the right to vote.
We you you need to change it.
Could have lobbied for the change instead of waiting for the outcome.
But he decided to wait for the outcome because there was political hay to be made in it, and you are walking proof of this.
It is working.
The perception is that Trump is winning big, but now everybody's aligned trying to deny the votes he's already gotten.
I know the game here.
He wants people to think that there's an effort made to cancel the votes he's already gotten and rig them for lying Ted.
Which if if if succeeds is going to elect crooked Hillary, and we can't have that.
Now, Len uh you you you want to hold it against Cruz because essentially he read the rules.
And since he's a lawyer, it makes him a scumbag because he understands the fine print.
And that means we can't trust guys like that.
We don't trust anybody who reads the fine print number one, they're oddballs.
And then if they understand it, that makes them even more dangerous, right?
And so that's who Cruz is.
And that equals rigging the system.
But if there's anybody who understands the fine print, it's Donald Trump.
Let me ask you to consider something.
As a developer, which is what Donald Trump is.
He's got some of the greatest buildings in the world.
He's got some of the tallest buildings in the world, he's got some of the greatest buildings in the world, he's done some of the greatest deals in the history of deals.
There are people who are dreaming of doing deals like Trump's done deals.
His deals are so good he was able to write a book about it.
He would not have been able to do those deals if he had not been made aware of.
If he did not make himself aware, as a developer, by going to every city council meeting in every town where he did a deal, he would have to know the different building codes of all the different cities, the different counties, different states.
He would have to know the zoning requirements.
He would have to know whose skids to Greece, whose palms to Greece in order to build all those great buildings.
In his business, now he may not have done it himself, but he's got employees and staff that go in and understand what the requirements and in some cases obstacles are to building something everywhere he builds buildings in the Chinese, Japan, Mako, in Scotland, wherever.
He either does it himself or he has experts who knows the ins and outs of every government entity because when you build a building, when you do a deal, you are doing it with government.
You have to go through government to get it done.
Local zoning commissions, city planning commissions, you gotta go, you gotta get everybody on your side.
In some case, you have to pay these people off.
Who knows how it works?
But we all know you gotta go to waste management, you gotta make a deal with them.
You gotta have the trash picked up, you gotta make big friends out of those guys.
You gotta do all this to get that building built and then have it run.
You gotta do all this to get that building built and not sabotage so it won't fall down the first week you have occupancy.
And that's what Trump does better than anybody else.
He knows all that stuff.
He just chose not to know all that stuff about this primary.
I don't know why.
Uh but there's obviously knowing Trump, there was a strategy behind it.
There was a reason for it.
Now, I don't know about other people.
I'm not trying to portray Trump as dumb and stupid and uh arrogant and not paying attention to it.
I don't believe that at all.
Uh Trump is is using all of this to his uh uh advantage in any number of ways.
And in some ways that it's working.
But I just I just reject the idea here that he didn't know until after Colorado had its election that he didn't know what they were gonna do and how they were gonna do it.
He couldn't survive as a developer, not knowing zoning laws, or or building codes, or whatever else do you have to know and master in order to get a deal done in a building built.
Or a golf course.
Uh or a rest area on a on a turnpike.
Who knows?
Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever it is.
So, anyway, I'm long here.
I've got to take a break.
Len, I appreciate the call.
I really do.
Uh, we'll be back and continue here in just a second.
Don't go away.
Now look, as I mentioned earlier in the program, you Trump people are gonna have to understand something here.
These crazy rules have worked to your benefit in a lot of states.
I give you one example is Florida.
Florida was set up.
You have to understand.
Florida was set up for Jeb Bush.
Why do you think the delegates have to vote for the popular vote winner in that state for the first three ballots?
It was set up for Jeb or Marco, one of the two.
I guarantee you, whoever set Florida up did not set it up for Trump.
But Trump got 47% of the vote in Florida, right?
He gets 100% of the delegates.
Is anybody want to say that's unfair to Cruz?
Does anybody want to say that's unfair to Kasich?
Anyone want to say it's unfair to Rubio?
Why should Trump get all the votes, all the delegates?
He only got 47% of the vote.
I mean, it works both ways here.
South Carolina ditto.
In these winner-take all states, all you have to do is wanna plurality.
Well, you might have to get 50 to get winner take all, but even at that, you don't have to win every vote to get every delegate.
So the stuff works both ways here.
I realize I'm not a look at it that way, but you must.
Uh you Trumpists, Trump supporters, another question.
A New York primary is tomorrow.
And if the polling data is correct, Donald Trump's gonna win 50% of the vote.
And if he does that, he's going to get 90% of the delegates.
Is that fair?
Is it fair?
Bye.
Thank you.
Another question why do so many conservatives all of a sudden dislike state sovereignty?