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April 18, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 18, 2016, Monday, Hour #2
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And there's another little tidbit here about Hillary Clinton.
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Hillary Clinton told a black.
Now this matters.
Normally you see the opening of a story.
Hillary Clinton told a black radio host.
What would it matter?
Oh, why would that matter?
Well, here's the rest of the sentence.
That she always carries hot sauce with her.
Now, how many of you knew that that was a big deal?
What is that that Hillary's trying to score points by bragging that she's always carrying hot sauce with her in her purse?
It is, it's a total stereotype.
It's a total stereotype that they are given credit for for being able to relate to, because they have compassion, they have caring, they understand.
During an interview with the program called the Breakfast Club.
You ever heard of it?
Okay, I'm an either.
No big deal, just you haven't heard of it.
The host, the black host by the name of Angela Yi.
Starting to get real confused now.
During an interview with the Breakfast Club Monday morning, black host Angela Yee asked a Democrat candidate what she always carries in her purse.
What is she always?
Why would you ask somebody that why would you ask?
I don't care.
Of course it's a setup.
That's my point.
I'm asking rhetorically.
Why would you ask somebody what they're what would they have in their purse?
What are you hoping?
She said, Well, I've got some condoms.
You never know, Angela.
Uh what what are we talking about here?
I've got some KY jelly for the poll.
You know, Bernie's people throwing dollar bills at me.
What what what's supposed to be in the purse?
But Hillary said hot sauce.
Yeah, I got hot sauce in my purse.
Now listen.
I want you to know that people are going to see this and they say she pandering to black people.
Uh, said another African American.
And Hillary said, okay, okay, is it working?
Is it working?
No, no.
Seriously, she said, I've been eating a lot of hot sauce.
Raw peppers and hot sauce.
I think it keeps my immune system strong.
Hot sauce is good for you.
That's what she told.
This radio program.
Here's the reason.
Here's the reason.
Beyonce has a new song out called Formation.
She sang it at the Super Bowl, so it's necessarily new, but it's it's it's relatively new.
And in that song, Beyoncé sings, I got hot sauce in my bag.
Swag.
I got hot sauce in my bag.
So it is total pandering.
I got hot sauce in my bag.
So Hillary is thinking, well, if Beyonce sang it, that means most African Americans probably not only know it, but they've also got hot sauce in their bags.
And therefore, she's gonna say she got hot sauce in her bag.
But for her, it's good for her immune system.
Keeps her immune system strong.
It's hot sauce.
I no way tired.
Hillary Clinton.
What I mean, it just continues to gnaw away at me that this woman remains seriously considered.
She insults people, she panders to people.
And this one's just classic.
Okay, folks, back back to the matter at hand here, and that is my ongoing efforts to explain how all of this works.
I understand my powers of persuasion are such that even when I'm just explaining something, many partisans assume that I am advocating that which I'm explaining.
I'll give you an example.
I can't count the Number of times I have explained on this program how delegate selection process happens from state to state.
And I can't count on the number of times that I have explained that it has nothing to do with the popular vote.
That when the primaries are held, the delegates are not even known.
The delegates come later at the state party conventions.
And it's an honor to be a delegate, and there's any number of ways that you can be one.
It depends on the state.
In some states, Republicans and Democrats run for the position of delegate.
They have to be voted on by other attendees at the convention.
In other instances, members of the party elite will choose a couple of people as an honor to be a delegate.
Don't know how many, it's not the entire number of delegates per state.
Some states have superdelegates, which are chosen by party people.
They're used as a firewall to make sure that the party, the national party's interests are represented in every state delegation.
But the delegates are not chosen at the primary.
In many cases, the delegates names are never on a ballot.
The candidates names are on the ballot.
So you go in the Florida primary, you vote for Trump, you vote for Rubio.
You're not voting for a single delegate.
The delegates get chosen later.
And they're chosen by the people that run the party in that state.
And the way the delegates are chosen varies from state to state.
It's always been the case.
It's just that this is the first time people have ever seen this happen.
They have never seen it, they've never cared about it, it's never mattered.
But this instance it does, because we're into some unprecedented territory in quite a few years, so people just haven't seen it.
So the whole process of choosing delegates, I uh look, when I was growing up, I knew about this.
We hit was a big deal.
This was um what could what year was the Republican convention in San Francisco?
64, the Cow Palace in San Francisco, the Goldwater Convention.
I was 13 years old, and one of the prominent people in our town who would end up owning and operating local newspaper was chosen as a delegate.
And I remember my mom and dad, it was such an honor, it was such a big deal.
And of course, we all knew the guy.
His name is Gary Rust, we all knew him.
Uh and after it was over and he came back, I ran into him someplace.
I said, What was it like?
And he went on about how he didn't have time to sleep, didn't have time to eat, it was so much work, great honor, and so forth.
So my point is that these people chosen to be delegates, some of them look at it as an arduous task, most of them look at it as a great honor.
And when you watch a convention, and you see all these people on the floor of the convention hall and these high signs that have the names of the states on, those are the delegates there.
Now, from state to state, it determines, it's determined how those delegates vote.
On the first ballot, on the second ballot, on the third ballot, and it's always differed from state to state.
Every state has their own rules because every state has their own spoils system.
And the National Party wants to keep its hooks into every state, so they've got their presence in every state delegation.
Florida, for example, 99 delegates.
Trump did not win the whole state, but he's going to get all 99 delegates.
I mean, Trump people are running around and saying how they're being screwed, but they've also benefited from this process at the same time.
They've got a lot of they have many more delegates than the share of the popular vote Trump has won.
They really do.
There's no question about that.
It's it's it's all in the numbers.
Now in Florida, Florida is one of the few states where the delegates are required to vote for Trump on the first three ballots.
That's the way Florida set it up.
I realize many of you cruise people think, there goes Limbaugh advocating it.
See, he's explaining it such a way he's supported.
I'm just telling you.
The delegates are Not free to vote the way they want to vote until the fourth ballot.
I've also explained, I don't know how many times it's quite possible that over half the delegates in any given state do not support the candidate they required to vote for in the first ballot.
That's why what's going on now is happening.
The candidates are going into these state conventions and trying to get the delegations packed with their own supporters.
Now the Trump people who are not engaging in this are calling it cheating.
They're calling it it's being rigged.
They're describing it as the Democrat process being bastardized.
The truth of the matter is that Donald Trump has missed crucial deadlines in a number of states to lock up delegates who would stay loyal to him beyond the first ballot.
The candidates are totally free and able and allowed to go into each state at each state's party convention and have a role in determining who those delegates are.
Depending on how good the candidate's organization is, he could end up with 70% of the state delegation being in his favor.
Trump's not even playing the game.
Trump has missed crucial deadlines in a number of states to lock up delegates who would stay loyal beyond the first ballot.
Most of the actual delegates are elected at state and congressional district conventions run by party insiders, members of the party establishment that Trump has run against.
There is no the same thing would be happening if a third party was running.
The third party wouldn't have any role whatsoever in a Republican Party convention.
If you had a one of the reasons a third party candidate doesn't have a prayer, because the third party candidate can never get into one of these conventions and lock up delegates.
Well, he can, but the party's gonna shut him out.
But Trump hasn't even gone into many of these states.
He doesn't have an organization working these conventions, trying to influence who is chosen as delegates in state to state.
And if a candidate doesn't go in there, then the powers that be will be if any other candidates are there trying to make it happen, plus the party insiders.
Trump's team has had very little contact with these loyal party activists.
But Ted Cruz has spent it's incalculable the amount of time that Cruz has been spending actively courting delegates for months.
Now the truth about delegate selection is this.
The delegates to a party convention almost always come from the ranks of elected party officials and their friends and family.
Could be state elected if it doesn't have to be U.S. Congress or Senate, it could be a state, Congress, State House, could be uh state attorney somewhere in some county.
But these people come from the ranks of elected party officials.
So by definition, many of them are going to be the quote-unquote establishment.
The quote unquote insiders.
So Trump, who has from the start been running against these people, and at times even threatening to run third party.
It was always going to be a long shot to secure their loyalty anyway, which I think Trump wasn't concerned with.
I think Trump thought he was on such a roll that he was going to get to 1237 by now.
And none of this would matter.
Trump's strategy was clearly to just run a smother campaign and let his total command of the national media, and he owns them, by the way.
Not, by the way, uh Do they like that?
But Trump has owned the media.
See, if I say that, he goes praising Trump again.
You know what?
I don't know what Russia does.
I'm not praising anybody.
I'm just telling you.
Trump has owned the media exactly what so many Republicans have have told me they define as eventual Republican success.
We're not going to get anywhere, Rush, till the media likes us and likes our candidate.
Well, I've always told you you're never going to be happy then.
The media doesn't like Trump.
They're fascinated by him.
They need him.
They benefit from covering Trump.
But they don't like him.
They're scared to death of him.
But but they can't not cover him because somebody else will, and if they do, they're gonna they're gonna own whatever ratings accrue to covering Trump.
But Trump was going to rely on this massive national primary sweep to wrap up 1237 so that none of this would matter.
There wouldn't be a second ballot.
There wasn't gonna be a third ballot.
Because Trump was going to have this wrapped up, and he was relying on the power of his personality, the overall intensity of his campaign, the fact that the media was in his back pocket promoting him, whether they liked it or not.
But it hasn't worked out that way.
It's now it's now up for debate as to whether Trump will get to 1237, which is what makes all this other sausage making relevant all of a sudden.
Cruz cannot get to 1237 either.
Cruz is not trying for a first ballot win.
Cruz is trying to stop a first ballot win by Trump and then a second or third ballot win.
Because the prevailing conventional wisdom is that Trump is so disliked that if he doesn't win it outright in these primaries with 1237, that there's no way he will be elected or be nominated by the convention because he's so disliked and detested by so many Republicans,
and Cruz is simply trying to take advantage of that by going to all these conventions and securing the support of as many delegates as he can and trying to install as many delegates as he can who are in his column.
But here's another thing.
We don't know until the actual voting begins whether any of these pledges are real.
We don't know how the second or third ballot's going to go.
They're not bound.
They can change their mind five seconds before the balloting begins.
So all these promises that candidates are being given now, these pledges, okay, I'm voting you, Ted, on the second ballot.
Who knows?
People get to them.
Uh during the convention, wine and dynam, any any number of things can happen.
And it may well be that that's Trump's strategy is to deal with this later rather than going to all these different states because he doesn't have an infrastructure set up to do it anyway.
Uh break time.
We'll be back and continue with your calls after this.
So check the email during the break.
See, you didn't answer the first caller's question.
You did you skated it, you skated it.
You don't want to answer.
Yes, I did answer it.
Let me answer it again.
Let me answer.
The first caller's question.
If if if if the guy gets close 1237 but doesn't get there still a majority, has a majority votes, majority and delegates, and they take the nomination away from we're gonna lose the voters, right?
What's gonna folks uh patience, patience rush.
The Republican establishment is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton.
If it means holding on to their fiefdoms.
I'm the Republican Party is prepared, if Ted Cruz gets a nomination, to not care whether he wins or loses.
In fact, if Ted Cruz is the nominee and loses the general, the party will be happy.
They'll be able to blame the loss on conservatives and conservatism and be done once and for all with conservatism in the party.
The party's primary objective is self-preservation, not winning the White House in this cycle.
Given the vagaries of this cycle, the Republican Party's primary objective is maintaining its own Power structure and base for the current people that occupy it.
And the dead giveaway for that is when you hear some of them openly publicly say that they will vote for Hillary rather than Trump.
And some of them have even said that they'll vote for Hillary instead of Cruz.
It means they do not think the country's in crisis.
They don't think anything of the sort.
They're not have anything in common with you on that score.
And number two, that it's all about self-preservation, maintaining the current Republican establishment, the ruling class, and their positions in it.
So if something happens and the nomination is taken away from Trump, and by the way, by rule, if he doesn't get to 1237, it's not technically going to be taken away from him.
He's got to get to 1237.
But even there, there are vagaries on that.
Folks, I really do believe that Trump is waiting for the convention to do all of his delegate work.
He doesn't have an infrastructure set up to go to all these state conventions.
He never thought it was going to be necessary, but every delegate's going to be in Cleveland.
Much more accessible, much easier to get to, much easier to whine and dine, and it it uh is very persuasive that the likely, potentially next president's coming and asking for your help, it'd be tough to turn that down.
So I don't doubt for a moment that Trump has probably decided that his second, third ballot efforts will take place at the convention rather than what Cruz is doing by traveling to all these different states.
Now there's one other point to be made here.
For all of you Trumpists out there, all this caterwalling about how the system's rigged and how there's no democracy going on and elections are being canceled, and all these cruise people are out there, I don't know what the word, cheating, uh canceling elections, rigging the process.
Let me tell you something.
If Donald Trump doesn't like the process, say in Colorado, there's a way of changing it.
Instead of ignoring the place and waiting until after what they do is done and then complaining about it, you go there.
And if you don't like the way Colorado does it, you go there as the presumptive nominee, and you get involved in their state and party convention or whatever, and you try to change their rules and force them to start having a primary instead of this caucus delegate selection process.
As a candidate, as an as a potential, as the front runner, you have all kinds of power at these state conventions if you want to go.
Even if you think that some of the party officials are establishment types and are opposed to you, you have the ability to go in and try to change the rules and these procedures in all these states.
Now, I, for one, refuse to believe that Donald Trump and his campaign did not know how Colorado was going to do this.
It's simply for a guy who knows every community that he does business in, every zoning law, every every every aspect of getting a building built in Chicago or Las Vegas or Atlantic City or down here in Florida.
I mean, here's a guy who has mastered the construction business, and he knows from state to state, from town to town, what the different zoning regulations are.
It's his business to know those things, and I'm sure he knows them backwards and forwards.
He not only has staff that learns it and understands it and puts it into their proposals, their budgets and everything, and how they have to wine and dine, local zoning commissions and all that, uh, environmental impact statement, things you have to do to get your building built.
There's no doubt Trump could have determined how every state is going to choose the nominee in that state or the winner in that state.
Now, whether he chose my my point to you is he chose not to act on it.
He knew how Colorado was going to do it because every candidate did.
Every state had to decide by last August.
Every state did decide by last August.
And they submit their procedures and their rules to the National Party, which then publishes it all in a book or pamphlet form or whatever, and it's distributed to every campaign.
Thus, every campaign is informed how the selection process of delegates, what delegate requirements are in terms of how delegates must vote at the convention.
All of this is known at the very beginning of the process.
My point is that if Trump is really worried about how a state is rigging its procedures here, as he is saying about Colorado, he could have, at any point in this entire process, call the people of Colorado that run the Republican Party there and said, Look, I want to come to one of your meetings and like the way you guys are doing this.
I know we're going to do it this way, but I want to push for rules changes.
It's undemocratic.
I don't like the way this is working.
Could have done that.
Not guaranteed to have won, by the way.
Just because he went in there or would have gone in there and complained or advocated for a different procedure, not to say he would have won, but he could have gone in there and tried.
And in the process, maybe changed some minds, maybe persuaded some people.
As the as the presumptive front runner, you have a lot of power.
Whether they like you or not.
Because at the end of the day, you can make them like you.
If you are that's that's why I think Trump's process here on the second and third ballot is going to be focused on Cleveland.
My guess is that Trump looks at this as highly inefficient to go out and hire a bunch of people and go traipsing around state to state to all these different places while they're choosing their delegates when they're all going to be in essentially the same place for five or six days in a row, Cleveland, Ohio.
Much more efficient to get them there.
And then as he arrives in Cleveland, he's going to come in as the presumptive winner.
He's going to come in either with 1237 or just shy of it.
There's a lot of power in that.
If he needs a hundred delegates, if he needs 50 delegates, it's not too big a stretch to imagine him reaching out to them.
Because who wants to say no to the likely nominee?
Well, now there would be some.
That's what this is all about.
Some establishment people that would say no never no matter what.
But some people won't.
Some people will want to be in good with the nominee.
Some people want to be tight.
Some people want to be on a first name basis with the nominee.
Particularly a nominee that's going to remain powerful and interesting and a national figure long after this race, whether he wins or loses.
So I just, I think there's so much going on that we're, even though we're seeing more than we've ever seen, there's still a heck of a lot going on that we're not seeing.
And there's certainly a lot of strategizing taking place that we're not privy to.
And there's a lot of planning, and who knows what other things happening here.
But this is this is for all the marbles.
But look, my only point, and I realize going to anger you Trumpists, but if you don't like the way Colorado's doing things, you've had six months to go in there and try to change influence, changing their rules or what have you.
But it turns out also that there is, from Trump's standpoint, from an imaging standpoint, there's an upside here to the way this has turned out because he's got clearly a meme, a narrative that the deck is stacked against it.
That it's not a fair fight, that people are cheating, that they're canceling elections.
And he's using that uh to his benefit in the worlds of perception being reality.
So that has to manifest itself into genuine reality at some point when you get to Cleveland, who knows if it will, but clearly that's that's the Trump strategy.
Now, by the way, just in from the Wall Street Journal.
The NBC Wall Street Journal poll just released Hillary Clinton's national lead over Bernie Sanders has sharply eroded.
The way the journals blurb reads, Senator Bernie Sanders has all but eliminated Hillary Clinton's lead among Democrat primary voters nationwide, as her standing has eroded under fire from her primary opponent and Republican rivals, i.e., Crooked Hillary, according to a new Wall Street Journal NBC New poll news poll has found.
Bernie Sanders, for the first time is close to tying Hillary Clinton.
Here are the numbers: 48% Bernie, 50% Hillary.
Last month's poll, Hillary was ahead by nine.
So her nine-point lead was 53 to 44.
Her nine-point lead is down to a two-point lead, which is a margin of error lead.
Again, it's a national poll.
This is another instance in the Democrat primary that was not supposed to happen.
Bernie was never supposed to get this close.
Nowhere near this close.
Hillary was not to even still be in a perceived contest by this time.
According to the original schematic of this campaign, the way they drew it up, Bernie was to have been long gone by now after having presented a valiant effort.
But he was to have been vanquished weeks ago.
So now there will be panic and upset.
And you can see Bill Clinton starting to fall apart with this stuff.
He's starting to blame people, starting to blame millennials.
He's starting to blame people for the way they're thinking and the way they're planning on voting.
This wasn't supposed to be.
To the phones we return.
Alex at Payson, Illinois.
Great to have you.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the program.
Hello.
Madam Secretary poll dancer Ditto's rush.
Yes, sir.
Great to have you with us.
I have a question I'd like to ask you and maybe put you on the spot a little bit if you're willing to uh make a projection.
Everybody's uh going through a lot of handwringing about who is going to be affected most by their voters staying home.
So my question is do you think Hillary's uh voters will there'll be people staying home from the Democratic side more so than the Republican side?
In other words, who will it affect the most?
Interesting question.
I haven't seen any polling data on Hillary's voters.
We've seen uh a number of polls that suggest that uh 25% of Bernie's voters will not vote for her.
They'll they'll stay home and not vote, period.
25% of Bernie's.
I haven't seen any numbers on how many of Hillary's voters will not vote if she doesn't get the nomination.
Uh her voters, you'd you would you would have to assume that Hillary's voters are the vast majority of them are party elites or people who think they're party elites.
They don't think of them as uh themselves as as radical outsiders.
They are the Democrat Party establishment.
So you would think, therefore, they would be loyal to the party, because believe me, what what animates them is opposition to us.
They are they they are more oriented and and motivated to see us defeated than anything else that challenges them.
How about comparing them to the Republicans that are staying home?
That's that was really my question.
Who will it hurt the Democrats more than it hurts the Republicans, the stay home vote?
Okay, well, let's make up a race here.
Give me give me the two candidates that you're thinking of.
Are you thinking of Hillary versus Trump?
Well, yeah, that I think that would, you know, Trump slice Cruz.
I mean, you can handicap them separately if you'd like, but Hillary against one of the two main Republicans, I guess.
Well, we all really go by polling data.
So Hillary'd be down 25% of Bernie Sanders' votes, which is half the party, it seems now, according to the polling data.
So she'd be down 20 if they're if they're being honest and they actually don't show up.
If Trump is the nominee, uh, you know, I I I really don't uh know what the the party establishment has people being quoted or quoted as as saying that they would vote for Hillary rather than vote for Trump, and some of them even saying that about about Cruz.
Um, that's a good question.
Who gets hurt most, or who gets hurt the more by virtue of being nominated to really question how many Republicans stay home versus how many Democrats stay home?
And I don't know.
I have to think that the stay home vote will always hurt the Republicans more.
That's my that's my person that's my impression.
But again, the dynamics of the Democrat side are different than we've ever seen them.
This bunch of Sanders voters.
I believe these people when they say they won't show up if Bernie's not the nominee.
But by the way, they're not saying that.
They're saying they won't show up if Hillary is.
The Trump people are saying they won't show up if Trump is denied.
The Bernie people are not saying they won't show up if Bernie's denied.
They won't show up if Hillary is a nominee.
You might think they're one and the same.
But I think not showing up if Hillary is the nominee is much broader and encompasses many more people than if they're saying I won't show up if Bernie's denied.
So Hillary is the right lightning rod on the uh on the Democrats.
I think it's all bogus.
I guess it's going to be one of the biggest turnout elections we've ever had.
I I think stay at homes are widely overestimated.
It's just a bunch of people threatening things right now.
Some of them will.
But just like the uh the Democrat turnout right now is even with all this enthusiasm for Bernie, there isn't any manifestation of large turnout as part of this.
All of that's on the Republican side.
And they could kill it.
They could kill all this excitement by making the wrong steps.
At strategic points yet to happen.
And by the way, folks, when you start talking about Democrats staying home, that doesn't mean they're not going to vote.
I mean, remember who we're talking about here.
Dead Democrats vote.
And they're not at home.
So just because Democrats say they're going to stay at home does not by any means mean that they are not going to vote.
Now, the the latest polls say that not so many people will stay home if Trump is the nominee.
That number is shifting.
You know, it used to be a big number of people saying if Trump's a nominee, they're staying home.
The number's going down now.
Um I forget the poll, but we had it, we had it last week.
Um the number of people, I think, in that poll who say that they will refuse to vote for Trump is supposed to be the same number as those who say they will never vote for Cruz or for Kasich.
You know, I played golf yesterday and at uh at lunch beforehand, a couple people came up.
I'm just sharing with you what people think.
These are people who care about this stuff.
They think Kasich, they think it's everything's being wired for Kasich to be the nominee.
The problem was they're looking forward to it, these two that I talked to.
Oh, geez, no, not why don't you ruin my golf game?
Here's Simon, Germantown, Maryland.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Russ, what's going on?
Thank you for taking my call.
You bet.
As a black male, I just want to say I am tired of every week I turn on the TV and Hillary is speaking.
She seems to be on this Hillary Clinton 2016 white guilt apology presidential tour.
All she is doing every week is apologizing to these black special interest groups like the National Action Network headed by Al Sharpton for issues that she feels white people have caused black people.
I'm a black male.
The National Action Network does not speak for me.
Yeah, amen.
I I I am so tired of it.
In secondary, as a police officer, I don't understand how she can consciously get up in front of people every week and defend certain dispositions.
Because she's shameless as a way to get it.
Simon is because she's shameless.
And the fact of the matter is, for a lot of people, it does work.
I'm with you.
All of this pandering to me is insulting, like showing up at Selma and going, I ain't no way, Tar.
I mean, who falls for this?
And then this latest, she carries hot sauce in her purse.
That somehow is supposed to be a stereotypical cliche that's gonna uh serve to build a bridge to black people.
I've never heard of it.
People should be offended by that.
This past weekend in Chicago, there were three homicides and twenty-three shootings.
Of the 23 shootings with a one-year-old little girl, how much outrage do you hear from anybody about that?
None because it's all happening in a city run by a Democrat mayor.
I feel so used as a black person because I I'm tired of turning on the TV, and it seems like all she seems to think is Al Sharpton and the rest of Black Lives Matter.
They they are the only black folks that matter.
They do not speak for me.
And most black people I know do not care for those groups because they're more racist than the KKK.
Wow.
Well, you know, I I've I've for years, you know, been asking myself why this works.
It obviously does.
I mean, look at the numbers, Simon.
90, 93 percent African American vote for the Democrat every four years.
No matter what.
Did you, by the way, know there was a white privilege conference every year?
Did the 17th white privilege conference we just held?
I had no idea.
I've details when we get back.
White Privilege Conference.
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