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April 12, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 12, 2016, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And we're back here on the Excellence and Broadcasting Network, Rush Limbaugh.
Great to have you with us, my friends.
The final exciting barn burner of an hour coming up.
I can just feel it.
I can just sense it.
It might be my barn that burns.
No, don't panic, Katie.
I'm just kidding.
800-282-2882, if you want to be on the program, folks, the email address Ill Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
I want to start this with a with a call.
We have a guy on here from Southampton, New York, named Bill.
Greetings, Bill, great to have you.
What what is the point that you wanted to make here?
You've been holding on for quite a while now.
Thank you, Rush.
My for my conclusion is that if uh Donald Trump is denied the nomination, and in line with everything that you've just been saying, that the big lesson for all of us is that there is no political solution available for our grievances to be addressed in America today.
I did not say that.
See, that's I did not say there's not a political solution.
I said to Okay, I'm sorry.
That's what I'm saying.
And by the way, my conclusion is based on Trump not denying Trump the nomination.
And then in line with the fact that they're not listening, further affirmed my conclusion that there is no political solution.
Okay.
Let's take this bit by bit.
You I'm gonna I'm gonna say in my own words what I think you just said.
Tell me if I got it or not, okay?
Okay.
Your point.
If Trump is denied the nomination, the big lesson will be that there's no political solution for Republican grievances, and you have no idea what the answer to our problem, if if if if they deny Trump the nomination, that we're out of ways to stop what's destroying the country.
Exactly what your friend said in the email.
This is our last chance.
Okay.
Our freedom in our country is at risk.
No, no, I understand.
No, I understand all that.
I I need to I need to go back to the very first thing you said.
And I'm gonna trust that you were literal.
Remember, I'm the mayor of Reville.
Real you said if Trump is denied the nomination.
No, no, no, no.
Trump has to win it.
What do you mean if Trump is denied?
He hasn't won it yet.
If he wins it and he's denied, then you've got a point.
If he gets to 1237 and they try to take it away from him, then you've got a real point, but he hasn't won diddly squat yet.
He hasn't got 1237.
He hasn't won.
There's nothing to deny yet.
And I think that may be a point.
There is no entitlement here.
Just because you're leading doesn't mean it's yours.
The other candidates are not just gonna lay down and die and go away.
Look at Kasich.
There's no reason to stay in this other than to gum up the works and he's doing it.
There is no way Cruz can get to 1237, but he's not going away.
There is no entitlement.
The assumption here, if Trump is denied the nomination, I I trust that what you're saying is that if Trump gets to 1237 and they take it away from him, if that happens, there's gonna be blood.
If that happens, there's gonna be a genuine it's gonna make what happened in Chicago, 1968 look like tiddly winks and romper room.
But if Trump gets to 1150 and they don't give it to him, he's not being denied.
The rule says 1237, and they're gonna do everything they can to keep him from getting there.
I you you you have to understand something that right now in this country, there are easily 60% of Republicans who don't want Trump to win the nomination.
Now in the last segment of the previous hour, I explained what I think pretty well what somebody Has to do as an outsider to come in and win control of the Republican Party, which is what the presidential nominee is.
The presidential nominee is the de facto head of the party.
That's another thing that has them all panicked.
The nominee chooses who runs the party, chooses the head of the committee, defines the rules at the convention, determines who speaks at the convention, the nominee is the head honcho.
They've made it clear the leadership of the GOP has they don't want that to be Trump.
That should not be news to you.
So why are we doing this?
Why are you doing it?
I did not make me mean to make it seem like a lost cause.
But if you're sitting there thinking that Trump's already won this and that people are working now to deny it to him, you've got to change your attitude about this.
This isn't over.
Okay, so you don't like what happened to Colorado.
What are you going to do about it?
That should be the only question here.
If they're serious, what to do after Colorado, how to make sure it doesn't happen again, how to make up for lost ground, because there has been some lost ground.
Why did Trump stop winning?
Win win win-win-win.
Trump's noticed his image, his reputation.
Everything he's built about himself.
He's going to win-win win-win-win-win-win.
He hasn't been winning.
Why not?
You gotta figure it out.
You can't sit there and get mad at people for not voting for you.
You've got to figure out how to get.
He was winning.
He was on a roll.
He had momentum nobody could stop.
What happened to it?
Well, when the momentum stopped, you can't blame the opponents for getting excited and trying to capitalize on it.
I have said for the what however long I've been doing this program, whatever business you go into, there's a procedure for how you climb the ladder in that business.
There are rules that have been set up either over time they've just evolved, or there's a manual, a book, or whatever.
Sometimes it's unwritten, unspoken, but things that you've got to do if you want to get to the top of whatever business, whatever organization.
And if it involves overthrowing the current regime of that organization, there's even more things that you've got to do.
You've got to learn how the insiders are operating it.
Why are we even doing this?
I'll tell you what, you're doing this because you believe that this party needs to be taken over.
You're doing this because you believe that the Republican Party is no longer responsive to you.
Okay, just because they staged an event in California in Colorado where they don't let me tell you something else about Colorado.
Even if they had a lot of vote, do you realize that they've structured the rules in Colorado so the delegates are unbound?
You think you're mad now.
Suppose there had been a vote, and suppose Trump had won it 6040, and Cruz got all the delegates.
You think you're mad.
Now, what would you be doing then?
Their delegates are unbound.
They are not pledged, and the states set it up this way, however they want.
They did this all last fall, and they did this.
I'm going to tell you again, Colorado set up its procedure to grease the skids for an insider candidate like Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or whoever some of the other insiders were for Chris Christie, whoever it was, Colorado set it up so that precisely a Ron Paul or this year's iteration of it, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz could not come in and win it.
They're not going to give it away.
I can think of analogies all day long here, and I I'm not gonna, I don't think I don't think it's gonna fall on deaf ears.
But national politics, like anything else, it's hard.
It is really hard.
Name the last third party candidate that won anything for president.
Name it.
Many of you Trump people are Tea Party people.
Haven't you learned by now what you have to do?
How many Tea Party members of Congress have gone there bright eyed and bushy tailed and left after one or two terms because sorry I can't get anything done here.
The rules are stacked against them.
They don't get any committee assignments.
They don't get any help in re-election efforts.
Because the Tea Party's not the majority party in the House of Representatives.
The Republican establishment runs it still.
What are you doing here?
You're trying to take over to Republican established.
You're trying to conquer the ruling class.
That is a big task.
Ask the French about it.
You don't get there by whining and moaning when you lose something.
You figure out why you lost and you come back and you let it not happen again.
You go back and look at when you were winning and ask what were you doing.
And then why did you stop winning?
What possibly could have caused it?
And if you can figure it out, stop doing it.
I'm not going to answer those questions, even though I could.
But nothing has been granted you.
There's nothing to be denied you yet.
Otherwise, Casey can walk around.
He could be talking, but if I'm denied this nomination, why I don't know what's going to happen to this party.
And people would laugh.
Now, maybe the caller didn't mean deny, literally, but I think that probably is reflective of an attitude.
People think that this is so important that the future of the country is so important.
It's only one guy that can possibly make a difference.
And we don't care how many people he insults, and we don't care how many pictures of Cruz's wife he puts up, we don't care how many cuss words he says.
We're talking about saving the country.
We're talking about saving my family and my family's future.
We're talking about maintaining the great country.
I understand all of that.
I'm of the same mindset.
But I'm sorry, folks, I've been fired seven.
I've never had anything handed to me.
And I am well, I don't want to make this personal.
But the reason I know this backwards and forwards, upside down, is my own career.
And I didn't do one thing, a single thing, necessary to get where I am, except for form.
But I didn't at work, I didn't get to know people, I didn't get anywhere because of who I know, I didn't get anywhere because of knowing lobbyists or the equivalent of lobbyists.
I was never part of any establishment, and I'm not now.
And I never will be, would never ever be permitted.
When you think that this has somehow become an entitlement, and that everybody thinks it is because how important it is, you have to understand.
I've been trying, I don't know how many times, how many months I've been telling you there are people who live in Washington who do not see the status quo like you do.
It's perfectly fine.
They're wealthy, their kids' futures are set, they're in great middle schools, they're gonna go to great Ivy League colleges in many cases, they're gonna graduate, and because of connections, they're gonna have jobs, they probably aren't gonna need student loans.
The unemployment level where they live is three, four percent, and it's a real three to four percent, and per capita average income's about 180, 200 grand on the on the low side.
They have no clue.
And when you try to get them to understand how you see this current situation of crisis, they don't at all.
So they think people look at life that way are cookie on the fringe, oddball weirdos, what have you.
They're the ones out of touch.
But they are the ones that also run the show right now.
As such, they get to define how the events they sponsor are run.
The United States Constitution doesn't talk about state elections, other than the presidency.
But this local stuff, state stuff, that's state constitutions prevail, state rule, state organizations, state parties, and every damn one of them is different.
And if you're going to conquer them, you've got to know them.
You've got to know how they're playing the game in every state that you hope to win.
And you can't just rely on the force of your personality, the force of your nature.
Anyway, I gotta take a break here.
I'm a little one of I'm gonna give myself a little bit more time on the other side of this break, because I'm really behind in getting phone calls in, and we'll do that after this.
So don't go away.
We'll be right back.
Going back to our last caller in this email I got, it's apparent that one of the things that is puzzling, uh maybe even confusing, but certainly disappointing to a lot of people is.
And I again I understand this.
Here you have Trump up until the last month or so was just killing it.
Donald Trump was just he owned it.
And the Republican Party was not joining him.
I think that shocked a lot of people.
Because a lot of people think, okay, everybody running is a Republican.
Cruz is a Republican.
Marco was a Republican.
Christie's a Republican.
Trump's a Republican.
Why doesn't the party here's a guy getting Democrats crossing over voter?
He's expanding the base of the party.
He's going out.
I've made this point.
He's attracting people that the Republican Party claims it wants, and yet they are trying to destroy him.
They're trying to stop it.
They're not getting behind him.
Wait a minute.
Wait, that this doesn't compute.
This doesn't make sense.
Why aren't they embracing the guy?
Why aren't they?
And the answer's real simple.
He's not one of them.
He is the equivalent of a third party candidate running under the Republican Party banner.
And as Ditto Ted Cruz, and I'm just gonna one more thing here, that I'm gonna re-emphasize this.
I made this point yesterday.
Do not think that what's happening here is a secret alignment between the establishment and Ted Cruz.
Because if the establishment succeeds in stopping Trump, they're next going to stop Cruz.
They don't want either one of these guys.
Because they know they will not be able to control either one of these guys.
They don't want either one of these guys becoming the de facto head of the party, which is what the nominee becomes.
It's that simple.
I know I could give you a sports analogy.
It's like your team winning the World Series and half the front office being mad because of how it happened.
It doesn't make sense.
So you get even angrier.
My gosh, the party's not embracing the one guy that can send the party.
Because the party's not interested in anything but saving itself.
Well, there's no fear.
There's no way it doesn't matter.
It's what it is.
And that's what the task is.
Before you get to the White House, you gotta beat these guys.
At their game, with their rules.
You have to know what their rules are and where the rules are being employed.
This is the big leagues.
There's no crying here.
There's just figuring out what has to be done next.
And if you want, I'll tell you what that is.
But I got to get back to the phones here.
It's Plano, Texas.
John, great to have you.
I'm glad you waited your turn.
Hello.
How are you doing, Rush?
I am uh actually doing quite well here.
Well, you did a great job explaining about the up to the other callers about uh what needs to be done on the ground.
What you're not telling them is is that Trump never did this.
You're you're not explaining that the entire campaign and Donald Trump himself are now being exposed for being incompetent.
They can't do the job, they can't figure out how to get win because they're not working on the ground.
They didn't take the time to figure anything out to go to the states and run the campaigns.
They're closing their offices after they win, not thinking that they're gonna need them anymore.
When that state, so we don't need it anymore.
His his own kids can't even register Republican from Democrat in New York City so they can vote for their father.
They couldn't even know they didn't even know that.
So I mean they're not they're not running a campaign here.
They're running a drive-by, as you as you're as you say, a drive-by campaign.
Donald Trump flies in, shows up, flies out, and he expects the win because for showing up.
It's just it's incompetent.
Total incompetence.
I don't understand it.
And then and then the people are getting mad simply because uh the tr the Trump supporters because Donald Trump is now angling that incompetence onto Ted Cruz for cheating.
And he's not.
He just figured out, you know, he came out of the Senate looking like a uh looking like a guy who who had no friends.
He knew he was gonna have to work for it, so he got down into the dirt, put on the boxing gloves, and went out there and fought it out.
That's what he's doing.
Donald Trump's not doing that.
He expects to show up and get all the votes.
Well, too uh uh that's uh I I think that's partially correct in a in a in an attitudinal uh sense.
I I don't have any uh doubt about that.
Some of the other things that you have posited, uh let me tackle those as we uh get back from this obscene profit.
Seems like there are a lot of these today.
Greetings and welcome back, El Rushbo.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
No, I I don't think it's necessary to untie the other half for what we're talking about here.
I can do it.
But I do I do want to clarify a couple things based on some responses I've checked here that I I see I'm being misunderstood, and I never want to be misunderstood.
And I'm never gonna blame you for misunderstanding me.
So let me uh if if I have conveyed the idea that in some of these states that it's not the will of the people that it's not democratic that that is determining the uh the outcome of some or many of these primaries.
I didn't mean to convey that.
The reason that all of this is happening is because for the first time in I don't know how long it's possible that nobody is going to be selected as the nominee before the convention.
1976, what's that 40 years ago?
This is the last time that this uh happened.
So we never see this.
People are watching the sausage be made.
People never knew about the delegate rules from state to state.
They never do about delegates.
People have learned more about how this all works in this primary than they have known their entire lives.
But the the whole process here, particularly in its first steps, is democratic.
In most states, Colorado's an exception here, but in most states, the winner of the popular vote, whether in the whole state or district by district, or both, will get the delegates on the first ballot based on the people's vote.
The people of the district or the whole state, uh, in part or combined.
And that controls to make these delegates pledged and bound, at least for the first ballot.
However, states are free every four years to write their own rules, and Colorado decided to do it differently.
Pennsylvania has, I think, I don't have the numbers right in front of me.
I think there's 71 delegates in Pennsylvania, and only 14 of them are bound.
Fifty-four or fifty-seven, whatever it is, are unbound even after the primary.
So in addition to trying to win the state, you have to also get in there and woo and whine and dine the delegates.
Just the way that state wants to run its operation, ditto Colorado.
Now, Colorado, again, was very open when they did this.
They weren't hiding anything.
They were explicitly trying to prevent an outsider from winning their state.
Whether they did it in conjunction with the RNC, the GOP, I don't know.
But it might have been used as a firewall.
Remember back in August when this all happened, uh Trump had everybody bamboozled.
There had been three separate occasions where he should have imploded by then, but hadn't.
He was going like gangbusters.
He was growing and growing and gaining in popularity, and there were a lot of people in the party getting scared to death.
So they started thinking of various ways to stop the insurgency, which is what every entrenched political organization is going to do is stop an insurgency.
They're not going to embrace it.
Folks, they didn't embrace Ronald Reagan.
It took him what, four years.
He even had the support of a majority of delegates in 76, for the most part, they still gave it to Gerald Ford.
And even after Reagan got the nomination, became president.
What's the first thing that happened when the next president, George H.W. Bush stepped, the first thing they did was clear house of all the Reagan people.
As many of them as they could clear out.
Reagan was always an insert.
Reagan was always an outsider because he's a conservative.
It took his whole life to win the Republican nomination.
And I'm sure back in 1976, people thought the country was on its dire steps, dire circumstances back then, and we were.
We were coming off a water gate.
Oh my God.
You want to talk about when the media was able to force a Republican president out of office.
Guess what?
Became the can-do objective of the media forever thereafter.
Destroying Republican presidencies.
When you show yourself you can do it once, doing it again, what a thrill.
And they haven't stopped since.
And they tried to destroy Reagan.
They did everything they could to undermine him even after he won the nomination.
They did everything they could to undermine him when he became president.
In the Republican Party itself, you had people that were not ecstatic that Reagan had won, the moderates.
This has never been a circumstance.
There never has been a situation where the party has welcomely embraced and welcomed in an insurgent.
It just doesn't happen.
It's always going to be adversarial.
You're never going to have the people you think and are saying are the enemy embrace you.
You make your political career out of trying to beat the status quo.
people of the status core are not going to embrace you when you try to knock them out.
It's just basic human nature.
But as I say...
One of the reasons for all the consternation here and all the controversy is that for the first time in 40 years, nobody's close to 1237.
It's possible we're not going to have a nominee after the primaries.
Nobody's ever seen that before.
A lot of people alive today have never lived through something like this.
And they certainly don't know what this delegate stuff is.
Which is why I, El Rushbo, am going to such great lengths to try to explain it.
There's another reason why this is so convoluted, the field was so damn big.
And I'll tell you something.
In fairness to Trump.
The fact that this field is so big.
And there were so many opponents.
He's had to deal with all kinds of opponents, not just one or two that controlled the opposition votes.
He's had to deal with a total of 15, then 13, then 12.
And the attrition continued until now he's down to two.
Cruz and Kasich.
And it's basically Cruz.
And look at Ted Cruz for just as for all of you that have venom.
There's nobody in this campaign more hated from day one to the present than Ted Cruz by everybody.
Trump has had a lot of love.
Trump has had a lot of.
The media's gone overboard loving and accepting and promoting Trump.
Ted Cruz hasn't gotten one second of love from the media ever.
In any of the he's had his supporters.
But there was a period of time Ted Cruz couldn't even get noticed.
But he keeps plugging away.
He realizes where he is and what he has to do to get beyond where he is.
And he's doing it.
Okay.
And he's going by the rules that the people have set up, and he's conquering based on the you can't hold that against him.
Get mad at Colorado all you want, but Cruz isn't stealing anything.
And Cruz isn't cheating anybody.
It's just what it is.
and But when you strip all this away, at the end of this, the will of the people, for the most part, there are exceptions, but the will of the people is prevailing.
As it usually does.
There are exceptions when the will of the people doesn't prevail, like 2000.
That idiot Al Gore won the popular vote, if you recall.
And you want to talk about Gestapo tactics?
But the will of the people, do you know how many people in this country care about global warming?
It's number 10 on a list of the nine things you think most important.
Nobody cares about it anymore.
People have discovered it's a hoax.
People have discovered that it's a bunch of empty, crisis-oriented claims.
And so Democrat attorneys general are mounting big tobacco style investigations of oil companies.
Democrat officials who are opposed to fossil fuel energy companies are entering a new phase.
State attorneys general have launched investigations that mirror the way the Department of Justice went after big tobacco.
They're going to try to make cases in court that oil companies have misled the public about the risks of global warming, have lied to you about global warming, just like big tobacco lied to you about tobacco and lung disease and cancer.
You want to talk about gestapo tactics.
There is no science in global warming.
It's nothing more than a political consensus of a bunch of scientists who have been bought off with grants.
Phony science, there's nothing scientific about it.
If it were scientific, there wouldn't be any doubt.
If there were real science, and if science had definitely proven and shown that there was man-made global warming, nobody of any substance would oppose it.
Just like nobody argues about gravity.
Nobody argues about whether the earth goes around the sun.
Nobody argues about the moon and any aspect of its rotation around the earth.
It's proven science.
Well, if man-made global warming was proven, nobody would argue about it.
But over half the country think it's bogus.
That's not stopping the Democrats.
So they're going to go after big oil.
Take your pick, Exxon, whatever.
This is what we're up against.
That's just a microcosm of the kind of crap that we face that we're up against that is causing us to be in this period of crisis.
And it is brought to us in living color by the Democrat Party in conjunction with the worldwide left.
So whatever happens in all this, there better be enough energy left to stop these people and beat them in November.
I take a break now again.
I'm just on the clock.
Sit tight back in.
Jonathan in Denver.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Bigadittos, Rush.
Thank you very much.
Good talking with you.
You bet.
Uh, by the way, my wife Kathy has been a longtime Rush 24-7 member, so I want to, in case she's listening, I want to put a shout out to her.
But real quick, I want to give you a perspective from Denver, Colorado.
I have never been involved in the Republican Party other than to show up at some primaries and vote.
Right.
And obviously at the election and vote.
So I'm not an establishment Republican at all.
In fact, I'm anti-establishment.
But this year, I took the time to show up at the caucus and vote in my precinct, vote for delegates who are going to go to the Colorado State Caucus and vote for the delegates that we send to the National Convention.
And let me tell you, just about everyone in that room was like me, not an establishment Republican.
Regular people, policemen, firemen, teachers, regular people that took the time to show up.
And let me tell you something.
You talk about a good ground game.
Ted Cruz had a great ground game going.
He took the time to get my email address, and he let me know I need to sign up for the caucus.
Get out there.
Make sure you vote.
Every one of the delegates that we sent to the Colorado.
Did let me ask you a quick question.
When you got Cruz's, are you a cruise supporter?
Is that how he knew to email you, or was he just blanket shotgun firing emails to anybody he could in the state?
No, what happened was I went to the Western Conservative summit put on by Armstrong, Senator Armstrong here in Colorado every year.
And at that summit, just about every one of the Republican candidates had a presence at that repo at that uh Western Conservative summit.
The only guy that wasn't there, by the way, was Donald Trump.
But I went and saw Carson speak twice.
I was on his mailing list.
I was on Santorum's mailing list.
Cruz was the only one of the candidates that pushed me to go to the caucus and pestered me about it.
So I took the time to vote, as did my wife, took the time to vote at the caucus.
All right.
I have to stop you because I'm out of time, Jonathan, but there you go.
That's uh on the site testimony of how it happened out there.
Not complicated.
Back after this, folks.
Don't go away.
Well, that's it, folks.
Another exciting excursion, highly informative, educational and entertaining at the same time.
In the can and on the way over to Limbaugh Broadcast Museum at Rush Limbaugh.com.
Have a great next 21 hours and uh get revved up.
And we'll be back and see you tomorrow.
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