Okay, give me uh somebody twenty-three again, and we'll get back in order there at uh number seven.
Greetings, my friends, welcome back.
Snurdley thinks that I'm wrong about something.
And I could well be.
In my scenario today, and look, this is gonna be about the third time I've explained it, so bear with me.
I'll make it really quick.
The GOP is throwing every egg in its mask in Ohio today.
They're saying that the uh future of the party is uh is is in Ohio today.
The GOP, future GOP hangs in Ohio.
What that means is Kasich's gotta win Ohio.
If Kasich wins Ohio, the establishment is still alive.
And that way they can engineer a uh contested convention where they run, that they can then install whoever they want.
And we've got a rules committee guy who's got a piece of Daily Caller today, says, hey, the way I read the rules, delegates are not bound to vote the way the states voted on the first ballot.
Meaning, all this is nothing.
The primary process at the end of the day means nothing if delegates on the first ballot can vote for whoever they want.
But the key to this is Kasich winning Ohio.
If Kasich wins Ohio, then the establishment thinks that they've got a pathway to deny Trump 1,237, or Cruz 1,237.
And that's the key.
If they can go to the convention with nobody getting 1,237 to throw it, Snurdley thinks that it would not be Jeb Bush they would throw it to.
Snurdley thinks it'd be Paul Ryan.
And you know what?
I have to you you may actually have a speaker of the House, uh, already power, Jeb.
He brings family ties, but I mean Ryan's there.
Uh Ryan's got ties to every lever that's pushed and pulled in Washington to make things happen.
Uh so yeah, you may have a point that that may be the ultimate objective is to get Paul Ryan, even though he's out there.
Don't I don't want it, don't anybody talk about it, don't anybody say it.
Well, what else is he gonna say?
Right.
So you may have a point about that, but the key to this, Kasich wins Ohio.
Now, they're not just gonna give up and go away if that doesn't happen.
But if Kasich doesn't win Ohio, he hasn't won a state.
He's got 63 delegates.
But if he wins Ohio, I'm just gonna tell you what's gonna happen.
They're gonna portray Kasich as the only guy in this race then.
Ted Cruz is going to become a nonfactor.
I'm talking about the media.
The media, the Republican Party, and everybody in the media is sympathetic to the Republican establishment, which would be the entire media.
John Kasich.
Where's he been, John Kasich?
Comes out of nowhere to save the Republican.
But I can hear and see the headlines now.
Make no mistake about it.
Now you might think it's counterintuitive to say, gotta vote Trump, hope Trump wins Ohio and Florida.
The reason for that is Kasich and Rubio have to go.
They can't win this thing.
There is no way under the sun.
And all they do is divide the anti-Trump vote, folks.
So it has to get down to a two-man race.
It has to get down to Trump Cruz, or yeah, Trump Cruz if if if uh you want somebody to win this with 1,237 delegates.
I don't think any of you, other than maybe the excitement of it, want a contested convention.
There'd be some of you who are spectators only who you know would love to see Rome fall.
Um, that's what Kasich is saying.
Kasich's, yeah, it'd be exciting to have a contested convention.
It'd be ex- and I heard Kasich saying, there are any smoke-filled rooms.
Have you seen any smoke-filled rooms?
Have you wins the last time you're in a convention?
I haven't I've been there.
I've been at conventions before you were born, Kasich.
I was there, I was in, I was at a convention with Eisenhower's at a convention with Reagan.
It was a convention with George Bush.
There are any smoke-filled rooms, they don't allow smoking anymore.
I thought, geez.
Doesn't the smoke-filled room is as is a what is it?
Is it a Yeah, it's a metaphor.
Of course, it's smoke-filled rooms, is the guys That run this run the show, getting sequestered somewhere in private and uh and pulling the strings.
So I actually think, you know, there's something else happening too.
There's so many things going on here.
And one of them, we we uh we wrote about it or talked about it now months ago.
Remember that piece by Sam Francis that we touted.
He was a columnist who wrote a piece back in 1996 urging Buchanan on.
And he said, Pat, essentially said, Pat, the future is populism.
If you renounce conservatism, you'll go a lot farther.
The conservative guys, Pat, they're just holding you back.
Populism's where it's at.
I asked Buchanan about this.
We interviewed Buchanan for the Limbaugh letter uh last week.
The issue will come out soon, and he addresses this.
I don't want to give anything away.
But the point is that there are any number of people now, and this is what this Michael Lind piece is all about, too, trying to say populism is the new conservatism.
The conservatism never really was anything big.
It's always been this little minority movement over here, had a lot of powerful intellectuals in it, but it's never been that big.
Populism is really what it's all about, and Trump is proving that.
There's an all-out war on conservatives.
That's what everybody's afraid of, folks.
The Democrats are afraid of it, the media is afraid of it, the Republican establishment's afraid of it.
They're using the Trump campaign to do any number of things.
Among them is to try to take all the air finally out of the conservative movement, and a lot of conservatives are playing along unwittingly.
What the Democrats are trying to do is use Trump to destroy the Republican Party.
They are of the belief that Trump cannot possibly win.
And cannot possibly beat Hillary Clinton.
However, I would like to share with you two different takes on this.
And one of them is from Salon.com, a writer named, let me find it here.
Well, the first one is John Cass in the Chicago Tribune.
Hillary cannot win.
She's the establishment candidate in a year of insurgency.
Chicago Tribune, this is I don't know, Cass, I don't know what leanings he has.
The Tribune obviously is a well, it's journalism.
What do you think they are?
Pull quote from the story.
Clinton is the political embodiment of the establishment.
And that spells serious trouble for her, because the American people are in an insurgent mood, fueled by the holes in their bank accounts.
All those jobs Bill Clinton sent overseas with his support for NAFTA and the rifts in what we once called the common culture.
It spreads across class lines like fire in a dry riverbed, and it won't stop until the weeds are gone.
Hillary Clinton will not be elected president because she can't win, and the sooner you Democrats figure this out, the calmer you will be.
That's one theory.
Because she's the embodiment of the establishment, and that's what this election is all about.
And I folks, by the way, this guy Cass is right.
This it is a real factor here.
I know that people in the establishment, they cannot relate to this.
They can't put their their hands on it.
The fact that in the middle class, there has not been significant economic improvement in many years, over a decade.
The wages are stagnant.
A college education has no longer become the route upward because it costs so much you come out so indebted that it has become a shackle and a ball and chain rather than something that spurs you upward.
All of the things that the special people have been in charge of have been destroyed.
Look at look at the social welfare system, it's a mess.
Obamacare destroyed the health care system, it's not working at all.
The stimulus didn't work.
We're countlessly in debt, 19 trillion dollars now.
The discord that average Americans feel for the Washington establishment is real, and a lot of it is rooted in economics.
Now, no people that are doing well.
Don't even bother to think about it.
If you're doing well, most people doing well think everybody is.
And there are large sectors of our population who aren't, and many of them are what are called blue-collar former Democrats, white working class people who feel the deck has been stacked against them in any number of ways, economic and cultural.
And I I have sympathy for them.
I have a lot.
I know that they are not improving their lives economically.
But they're not the slothful ones.
They're not among the 94 million not work.
Well, some of them are, they can't find jobs, but they don't want to be there.
These are people who've always believed hard work has a payoff.
And it hasn't.
Now they find their hours being cut by companies to comply with Obamacare.
The problem they're having is they're not correct in who they are blaming.
The mess is they are assigning blame to the wrong people.
George W. Bush and the Republicans are still getting the lion's share of blame for it when most of it is directly traceable to the Democrat Party and its policies.
Ditto millennials.
They are a group of people that sees a bleak future.
Many of them, not all, of course, but many of them.
They don't know why.
They don't relate it to current administration economic policies, like immigration and health care, you name it, all of the spending, the out-of-control growth in the size of government.
They just they just think confluence of events and the countries finally reach that point where its best days are behind it.
But they, because they're not educated properly, they don't know who to blame.
They're just down on the country at large.
But all of this makes people ripe rife for for anybody that comes along and says they can improve it and change it for them.
They feel powerless.
They feel ignored.
I know exactly who they are.
And I don't think that they're a bunch of hayseeds.
I don't think they're a bunch of lowlifes.
I don't think that they're they're identified because they're uneducated or what have you.
Some of them look, they run the gamut.
There's all kinds of different.
You have a question.
The official program observer is a question.
What's question?
Wait, wait, wait, who says can't win the nomination?
Oh, oh, what?
Right.
Well, I'll get to that when I get to the Democrats.
But I'm still talking right here about this situation that exists on the Republican side.
All I'm trying to tell you is that the people supporting Trump, uh, they are not what everybody thinks they are.
They're not reactionaries and so forth.
There's genuine frustration, whether it's trade deals or what have you, it's economics.
It's always economics.
It's always the money.
But if you've if if you're doing well and you think if you tend to think everybody else is too.
It's it's uh you you have to you have to work at reminding yourself what it was like when you didn't have money, and there's a whole lot of people out there.
The middle class in this country used to be what defined its greatness, the the middle class and its possibilities.
The middle class and the ability to expand and grow out of it was what set this country apart from any other, in addition to our Constitution, and it's becoming harder and harder and harder to do it now because obstacles are being put in these people's way.
Now, some of them it's their fault.
I mean, I listen, it's it's not that there's enough blame to go around here.
But I'm all I'm saying is that this is not illegitimate.
You might think they're foolish for buying what Trump's saying.
You might think they're fools for falling for it.
It can't possibly Trump can't do what he's saying.
That's a whole other thing.
You're trying to figure out Everybody, why they're there, why they're supporting Trump.
And nobody wants to ask the question, have we let them down?
They're always trying to is Trump lying to them, is somebody else fooling them?
It's never the people that do have some fingerprints on this mess, don't want to own up to it and want to continue to absolve themselves of blame, and those that are really doing well want to protect it.
So self-interest is uh triumphing over what used to be a concern for the entire population.
I think I think this is actually a fundamental important thing.
And it's a I've I've been thinking about it in spurts recently, and I haven't put together an entire thought process on it.
But let me try it this way.
Um watching an episode of Blue Bloods, the most recent one on Friday night.
And in this episode, the commissioner of the police department, New York, played by Tom Sellick, has a meeting of police officials from Great Britain.
And the subject of the meeting is for the officials of Great Britain to learn what the NYPD is doing to protect its people from acts of terror and violent crime, and whether or not the NYPD has proprietary techniques that might be on the edge of the law that they therefore don't want to share with anybody because of it.
And what triggered in me watching this program was it was clear that the writers of this program were of the impression that the commissioner of the police department and the British officials were actually interested in protecting their entire populations,
not just their friends, not just their donors, not just their special interest powerful friends.
And I think that's what's happened here.
I think a lot of people believe that the people entrusted with leading the country have forgotten all about large segments of it, and care only about making sure that their buddies don't lose anything,
making sure that their buddies don't get hurt, making sure their buddies are protected from terrorism, making sure their buddies are protected from economic collapse, making such as bank bailouts and so forth, but the hell with anybody else.
And it used to be that the people of this country trusted whoever it was they elected to lead them, that they understood that the entire population was worthwhile and valuable and everybody in it was special because they were Americans.
And a lot of people don't think that's the case anymore.
That the establishment takes care of itself and of its own and its friends and stops.
And I have to stop commercial timeouts, sit tight, back before you know it.
Don't go away, folks.
And I'll tell you it.
Evidence that the people of this country no longer think that their leaders care about them immigration, amnesty, then take a look at the trade deals.
It's not the American people benefiting from that.
Not in any way, shape, manner, or form, no matter how they try to make the case that this is a better interest, it's our better selves, this is our values, is who we know it isn't.
Lives are being destroyed, jobs are being destroyed, wages are being destroyed, there's no benefit from that policy to average ordinary Americans.
I don't care what anybody says, and they know it.
The other story here of the two, it says Hillary can't win is in Salon.com.
It's by a guy named Steve Almond.
Hillary will never survive the Trump onslaught.
It isn't fair, but it makes her a weak nominee.
I don't have time to go through the whole reasoning here, but he thinks that she doesn't have a prayer standing up to what Trump's going to throw at her.
And that she, whatever she throws back at Trump is going to glance off of him like everything else is.
He clearly believes that Trump is an unstoppable force.
He doesn't like it.
He thinks Trump's A reprobate everything else.
But Hillary at the top of the ticket is going to be a landslide loss for the Democrats.
I'm telling you, there are more Democrats who privately think that than you can shake a stick at.
These two guys are the only ones who are saying it.
The guy in the Tribune and the guy at Salon.
So on the Democrat side, it's a legitimate question.
When Bernie Sanders, okay, the word is out that he's going to do really well.
He's sneaking up on Hillary.
He might win a couple of states today, but the question is, why does it matter?
Because she's getting the delegates.
And it's true.
I mean, he won Michigan, right?
Bernie Sanders won Michigan.
Big upset.
He might win Illinois.
Her home state.
She's going to win the majority of delegates.
How does that happen?
Where are these Bernie people?
You know, they they ought to, instead of focusing on stopping Trump events, they ought to maybe turn their focus to the Democrat National Committee and say, what the hell, gang?
Our guy is beating your candidate in these states, and he is not getting the majority of delegates.
How does that work?
And their answer, well, the superdelegates.
See, we've set this up so that guys like Bernie can put on a good show, but they can't win anything because you have nothing to say about it.
The people that run the Democrat Party are the people in Washington, and you've got nothing to say, but all the rest of this is a show to make it look like Hillary can beat back a tough challenge.
Fool.
Oh, yeah, good point.
There is.
There's a New York Times story today.
They went to the Trump campaign office in Tampa.
And they were shocked.
You saw the story.
They were expecting to find nothing but Lily White Nazi sympathizers in there.
I'm not kidding.
That's what they expected.
Fascists now they expect Mussolini signs and all.
They could not get over how few white people were in the Trump campaign office in Tampa.
They couldn't believe it.
They saw more diversity in the Trump campaign office than they have in their own newsroom.
By far.
It wasn't even close.
They couldn't believe you know, it's more the bigotry and the prejudice that we get from the left.
Day in and day out.
Quickly, Vernon Winston, Salem, North Carolina, you're next.
Great to have you on the EIB network, hi.
Hello, Rush.
It's an honor to speak with you.
Thank you, sir, very much.
And I um I know you it was kind of you to apologize for the long waits, but really it it it's a pleasure.
It's a pleasure to wait to speak with you.
I appreciate it.
I really do appreciate it more than you know.
Look, um, if if Donald Trump gets the 1237 and he doesn't get the nomination, then there's going to be hell to pay.
But if he doesn't get the 1237, then anything goes.
And it's okay.
That's part of the rules.
And we gotta be okay with that.
True.
It but depends on how it happens.
If there is if No, no, no, no, no.
This is this is crucial.
If Trump, let's say gets to 1,200, he's 37 short, and they engineer a way to take it away from him.
There's going to be hell to pay.
Because 1,200 minus 12.
Yeah, the rule's the rule, but the preference will have been expressed by the voters.
Well, the preference will be and if they give it to somebody, they won't give it to Cruz.
If this happens, you can forget about Trump or Cruz winning.
They're going to give it to somebody who hasn't gotten very many votes, or any.
You wait.
That's what's that's what's going to be.
If that happens, you've got chaos.
Then I I agree there'll be chaos.
But let's say it either goes to a two-man race, it's Trump or Cruz, or even if the four of them stay into the end, what's what's you know, what's the problem with okay, Trump doesn't get the votes the first go round, the the cruise people, the Rubio people, the Casick people, they get together and say, you know what?
Um we are going to agree on it.
We are going to agree on someone.
Um and they go for they go for Cruz or they go for Rubio, but they've all got to agree on that.
And then the second vote was.
That's not yes, if if the scenario you lay out, yeah, that would be fun.
That would be cool.
If the only contestants are people who've actually been in the primaries and actually have received Votes, then everything's fine and cool.
You're exactly right.
But if at Mordor they decide to throw in somebody who has not been in the primaries, or who was in the primaries and barely showed up.
If they try to give it to Jeb, they try to give it to Paul Ryan.
If they ask Mitt Romney to come in and then exert pressure on delegates to vote for their guy, then you're going to have and that's what they want to do.
That's why everybody's upset about this.
If it was as you spell it out, nobody gets to 1237, so we go to the convention, the first ballot, everybody votes the way they're supposed to.
After that, the horse trading begins.
Yeah, baby.
That can be fun.
I think in that scenario, the establishment knows that Trump probably has more to offer these delegates than anybody else does.
They're worried about that.
That's why they're going to move in there and try to exert their pressure.
But don't Vernon, don't doubt me.
That occasion that you described, the establishment is praying for it.
That's what Kasich winning Ohio stands for.
It's what it represents.
And they do not want to do that.
They're going to cause a walk.
Whatever happened ever had this happens, folks.
The odds are after this is all over, the Republican Party is not going to look like it looks today.
It's going to be reconstituted somehow.
It's possible, by the way, that all of this is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
It's possible that the party's going to unify behind the biggest vote getter and realize once once we get to Cleveland that, hey, you know what?
We're not the problem.
Hillary Clinton and Democrats are the problem.
We're going to unify and we're going to rally behind our nominee like they usually do.
That could happen too.
For that to happen, they would have to throw off all this stuff they think about Trump.
Or they would have to get behind Ted Cruz.
And we know they don't like either one of those two at the establishment.
And in fact, may like Cruz less.
Because he poses a bigger threat because he's, in their view, inflexible.
He has his core beliefs.
He has his principles, and he's not going to be intimidated out of them, or so tightly held.
But Trump, who knows what he believes.
Make the right deal, and he'll do anything.
That's what they think.
So it's worth keeping an eye on.
Now back to the audio sound bites.
I haven't forgot this female uh anti-Trump commercial.
I know you people have been out there yelling, don't forget it, Rush, I haven't.
But I want to set it up again.
Grab Sunbite 23.
We had to do this in a hurry at the end of the previous hour.
It happened on CNN recently, within the last hour and a half.
The name of the show is uh is what legal view.
It's hosted by Ashley Banfield.
She's the one, by the way, who uh worried that.
Well, she was called to school.
That's right.
She was called school by the uh parent teacher group or whatever, because her her daughter, or no, her son, her fifth fifth grade son was going to school calling everybody loser.
And she was worried this was what Trump is doing to our culture.
She didn't know what to do about it.
It's maybe turn the TV off if you don't want your son to sing Trump, but anyway.
She's talking to Ryan Liza of the New Yorker, and something's going on in Ohio today.
It has a very worried apparently the Secretary of State in Ohio says that they are seeing a lot of Democrats show up and vote in the Republican primary today.
And they're very worried what that means.
They're worried about it being strategic voting.
Meaning this is not people voting for a candidate because they really like the candidate.
It's voting for some other reason.
As in Operation Chaos.
So she brings in Ryan Liza to ask about it.
I want to talk to you about what the Secretary of State just said in Ohio.
Democrats crossing over in that open primary to vote Republican.
Secretary of State said there are two reasons that they might want to do that, might want To vote for Kasich because they like him.
They might want to stop Trump because they don't like him, or maybe they do like Trump and they're voting for him.
So, Ryan, tell us what does this mean?
I'm a little skeptical that people voting strategically like that can have a big influence.
We have seen previous primaries.
If you remember, in 2008, Rush Limbaugh announced Operation Chaos, and he encouraged conservatives to go vote in the Democratic primaries to make the Obama Hillary Clinton race go on a little bit longer.
The evidence was it really didn't have much of an impact.
So I take it with a grain of salt.
She's not convinced.
She's worried this doesn't, this is not something they they they factored.
He looking for reassurance, this is not going to upset the Apple card.
Whatever the Apple Start Apple card did.
I think everybody in the establishment, Democrat or Republican, wants Kasich to win this today.
And what this means is they're worried that a bunch of Democrats are defecting to vote for Trump.
I think that's what they're really worried about, because that has happened in previous primaries.
And when Liza says, eh, the evidence it wasn't really that much of an impact, I don't think they wouldn't still be worried about it.
They wouldn't still have it at the front of their minds if it didn't have much of an impact.
Quick timeout, the Romney Pax female commercial against Trump coming right up.
I don't have time to grab the call, a guy from Lima, Ohio.
Lifelong Republican voted Trump today.
Even if he wins Ohio, how are they going to anoint him?
It's not about anointing him.
It's about denying Trump and Cruz 1,237.
It's about giving Kasich a reason to stay in this thing and siphon a few little votes here and a couple delegates there so that they end up with a contested convention.
Kasich is delusional if he thinks he's going to be the nominee, but he does.
He does think that.
Okay, here's this ad.
Now, this ad put together by the Our Principles Pack.
It's a pack tied to Romney.
It's a bunch of women.
And they're they look they're actresses, but it's made to look like they're some housewives, some artists, uh whole gamut.
And they repeat things that Trump has said and then give you facial expressions like, can you believe it?
And it's aimed at informing people too stupid to know who are voting for Trump what a reprobate he is.
You know, it really doesn't matter what they write, as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of that must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.
There was blood coming out of her eyes.
Blood coming out of her wherever.
Women.
You have to treat him like that.
This is how Donald Trump talks about our mothers, our sisters, our daughters.
One of the comments he made about Princess Dye.
They have uh comments about he would have dated his daughter if he weren't her father.
It's a that's a good looking she is.
And the problem with this ad is that it demonstrates to me, I'm just gonna say this.
It demonstrates to me the degree to which GOP mentioned leftist liberal men have been buffaloed by the feminist movement all of these years.
This is how they think they have to fight the war on women crap.
They accept the premise that normal male behavior or even braggadocio male behavior is Neanderthal.
It's criminal, it's misogynistic.
They don't allow for any humor.
They don't allow for any of the circumstances in which these things were said.
So but the point is the the guys that did this think that it's gonna help them uh uh with with women by showing they get it, and all they've done here.
See, that the I th I think voters are sophisticated in many ways.
And they'll look at this ad that the Trump people is who it's aimed at.
If you're not voting Trump already, you already know why.
So this is aimed at Trump supporters.
Trump supporters are gonna see this as an ad run by the Democrats.
They won't know it's a Romney ad because who knows what our principles pack is.
So they're gonna think it's the Democrats.
And the Democrats are the enemy.
And of course the Democrats would be opposed to Trump.
But the Romney people think that the Trump voter is so stupid that he doesn't know what Trump is.
He doesn't know what a reprobate Trump is.
We've got to show what a reprobate Trump is.
And this is the evidence they accumulate.
And it just misses so many aspects.
Might work in a general election, maybe, but not now, for sure.
Back in just man, there just isn't enough time here, folks.
I know there's a lot of stuff still left to be said, but there's always tomorrow.
Of course, we say more in a minute on this program than you'll hear in five weeks, anywhere else.