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March 15, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 15, 2016, Tuesday, Hour #2
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And we are back, Rush Limbaugh behind the golden EIB microphone, relentlessly pursuing the truth, unstoppedly pursuing the truth.
And we find it.
And you have to have courage to believe the truth, or you're gonna go crazy here, folks.
We're not interested in anything but teleboat number 80082-2882 is the uh email address.
Or the phone number, the email address is 800.
I got so many things I want to try to squeeze.
Let me start again.
Phone number 800-282-2882, email address L Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
I'm being given more details on this showtime show, the circus, whatever it is.
It's normally like they're eight weeks into it, but it normally it's just Halpern and Heileman and McKinnon driving around on the SUV talking about things.
But this latest episode is the dinner with these Republican establishment guys.
They are not in every episode.
This was the only episode they were in, which is why this particular episode has been leaked or excerpt, not leaked, but excerpts published on YouTube.
So that brings us up to speed on that.
I still can't believe I had never heard of this.
I haven't seen one word written about this show anywhere.
Nothing against Heileman or or Halpern, that's not the point.
But I'm telling you, I my my reading is omnivorous and voluminous, and I have not seen a word about this.
When I heard about this show, this thing last, I thought what what happened was they had leaked something from pre-production.
So whatever this show is doing, uh very few people know about it.
But now everybody does, which is, I think, one of the objectives.
Um again, if you're just joining us here, it is apparent, it is not apparent, it's abundantly clear, that the Republican establishment, all these reports we've had prior to today about them being in panic, have not even gotten close to reality.
The panic is real today.
They are acting as though their own very future is at stake today.
And they have decided that the future of the Republican Party, as you know it and love it, hangs on what happens in Ohio.
Meaning John Kasich, in their view, had better win this thing.
Now keep in mind, Kasich doesn't have a prayer of becoming the nominee.
He doesn't have a prayer.
If John Kasich thinks he's gonna become the nominee in a contested convention, he's got another thing coming.
If it gets to that point, can I tell you who I think they're gonna make president or make the nominee?
If all this happens as they want it to, remember now, we've got a guy on the Republican committee, the convention committee rules committee writing today in the Daily Caller, that first ballot delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate that won their state's primaries.
Everybody's thinking that that's the rule.
And on the first ballot, that's why primaries matter.
That's why this number of 1,237 delegates matters.
Whoever gets there is automatically the nominee.
This guy writes a piece today, said, no, no, no, no.
That's uh it's not the case.
Uh delegates can vote whoever they want on any ballot.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he says, yeah, but 76 is the only time that this was actually put into 76, yeah, that's when they denied Reagan.
So I'm just telling you, if if they succeed in this, if they succeed in denying Trump or Cruz, 1,237 delegates, by the end of the primary process, I'm here to tell you Jeb Bush is gonna be the nominee.
That's what they're gonna do.
That's what they've always wanted.
And Jeb himself said, back on December 14th of 2014, when this whole process started, Jeb said his strategy was to lose the primaries and win the nomination.
And everybody said, What?
How are you gonna do that?
And the answer we got money.
He's gonna outspend everybody.
He's gonna just, he's gonna whittle the field, he's gonna show the rest of the field, they can't compete with him financially.
He's gonna split the conservative vote by having all these conservatives in the race.
They're not gonna have a prayer, and Jeb's gonna be the coalition favorite.
He's gonna have all the money, and that's that.
And what they meant was Jeb's going to win the nomination without having a cowtow to Republican Tea Party base voters.
Meaning Jeb's not going to have to talk about abortion.
Jeff's not going to have to talk about immigration.
Jeb's not going to have to talk about any of these things that matter.
He's going to win the nomination, nevertheless.
And it may well yet happen.
If not Jeb, they'll go Romney.
But if Kasich thinks it's going to be him, and I don't doubt that he does.
That's why he wants to win Ohio and stay in.
And others talk that Rubio will stay in.
Even if he loses Florida.
And Rubio and Kasich have both said that they are rethinking their pledge to support the nominee.
It came as recently as a week ago.
Isn't that why Trump has supporters in the first place?
Because so many Republicans make promises and they didn't break them.
So the fur is flying and the establishment's making one last gasp here.
Well, it it won't be the uh the last.
Speaking of Rubio.
Rubio said that there will be a reckoning for conservatives who support Trump.
What does that mean?
What what what what I don't know what it means.
I'm just a what what can it possibly mean?
Ruby, there will be a reckoning for conservatives who support Trump.
No, no, what he's talking about here is they're taking names.
And if you're conservative and you supported Trump, something's gonna happen to you at some point down the road.
You're gonna get kicked out, you're gonna be shamed or whatever, or we're gonna be discommunicated from the party, who knows what.
There's gonna be a uh well, I'm just I'm just reporting to you what's in the news here, uh, Mr. Meanwhile, while all this is going on.
While it's all going on, there's a new poll out.
And it is, what is this poll?
Is it you govern?
Well, it is uh yep, you gov. Trump's now at 53% nationally.
Uh Reuters has him at 45.
But this is 53% nationally among potential Republican primary voters.
For the first time, Trump is at 53%.
Why does that matter?
Because primaries don't go on national votes, obviously.
I'll tell you why it matters, and it's because of what Carly Fiorina's out there saying.
If any of the anti-Trumpsters start bashing Trump voters, which is starting to happen, by the way.
National Review Online, a couple people there really tore into Trump voters.
You deserve to suffer.
You deserve to be dead meat.
You deserve to be whatever, having his economic strife.
I mean, that's the upshot.
There are more details to it than that.
But the point is it's starting to happen.
Trump voters are now being insulted and blamed.
And Carly Fear is uh uh uh uh uh uh don't do that.
You're gonna you're gonna need these people at the end of this process.
If Trump's not the nominee, you're gonna need them voting for whoever the nominee is, or you don't have a prayer of beating Hillary.
By the way, speaking on the Democrat side, you know, Crazy Bernie is not going away.
Crazy Bernie could win a couple of big states today.
Hillary Clinton is making a fool of herself.
She's out there saying, a great thing about our Libya policy, nobody died.
We didn't lose anybody in our Libya.
The Libya policy totally was a boondoggle.
It screwed up the Middle East, getting rid of Qaddafi, and she's out, and people uh Miss Clinton Benghazi, do you remember Benghazi?
And yesterday, the day before that, she's out there saying, promising coal miners that she's gonna put them out of business.
She's promising them she's gonna put them out of business and she's gonna put coal mines out of business in favor of renewables and global warming type great energies and all that.
And she says, but don't worry, we're gonna have great new benefits programs for you.
For any of you coal miners that we successfully put out of work because we're gonna close your dirty business.
We're gonna have the greatest benefits package you've ever seen.
And that's supposed to mollify them.
Let's go to the audio sound bites, and then uh after we get through some of these, your phone calls are coming, so hang in, folks, because it is your your turn coming up.
This is Kasich.
This morning in Westerville, Ohio.
He went in and voted and then spoke with reporters.
Now, this is the last thing he said.
I saw him say this.
And I told Cookie, you gotta get me this.
Here it is.
It really is pretty amazing.
Where I came from, we all hear these stories, you know.
But the stories could be about you too.
This one just happens to be about me.
Two have started here.
Stop stop the tape, and recuitt.
I want to make sure that you you got this.
It's really pretty amazing where I came from.
He's got a reporter gaggle there.
This is outside the place he voted.
He's been answering questions.
He's got a little frustrated at a couple of the questions, and he's just about to dismiss them and then no, no, wait, wait, I have one more thing for you.
One more thing.
You know, it really is pretty amazing where I came from.
We all hear these stories, you know, but these and the stories could be about you too.
This is how he is attempting to sound humble.
But this story just happens to be about me today.
It's all about me today, is what he's saying here.
My story is really pretty incredible, and I just want to tell it to you.
I know you all have your stories too, but today it's about me.
Now that's the that's the the tone.
Here's the whole bite again.
It really is pretty amazing.
Where I came from, we all hear these stories, you know, but the stories could be about you too.
This one just happens to be about me.
To have started here and as an aide all the way back to Nixon and all the way back to church and all the way back to my family, and then you come in here today and pass the vote for yourself for President of the United States.
It's pretty remarkable.
But you know, at the same time I say it, I just want you all to understand.
If any of you ever see me, and I had apologized to somebody here just the other day because I wasn't, didn't respond as appropriately as I should have.
If any of you ever see me getting out of control, I want you to take me aside, and I want you to say, remember what you told us at that press conference.
Okay?
Because I just want to be a good guy, helping my country.
That's all I really want to do.
Okay.
Now you sh you you should have seen the media gaggle.
You no, no, they're standing there blank-faced.
They're standing there blank-faced.
The cameraman, their mouths are open.
Everybody's uh I mean it's the funniest thing.
He starts out, he's trying to be humble, you see.
Hey, it's all about me today.
Look where I came from.
It's remarkable.
Somebody where I came from actually cast a vote for himself for president today.
It's incredible, it's remarkable.
I've been there, I was back there with Nixon, I was back there with church, and we're back there with my family.
But I just want to tell you guys, I'm just a good guy trying to do things like that.
If I ever, if I ever I want you guys to pull me aside, say, remember that press commerce where you you promised me that you'd keep me in line.
They're just standing there mouths wow.
I mean, it's self-absorption.
Folks, this is so easy to spot.
This is total self-absorption.
This is somebody that who who uh you've heard the old phrase believes their press clippings.
I mean, here's a guy that hasn't won a primary yet.
There's a guy that's got six-three delegates.
And he's hearing the establishment media talking about the future of the Republican Party hangs on him, and he believes it.
And he wants everybody to know it.
That he's important today.
Here's another one.
Same place outside the polling place in Westerville, Ohio, a reporter.
You uh you mentioned that new ad with the women quoting Donald.
We have that ad coming up, by the way.
Have you seen that Ed?
You've seen it.
Well, do you know that's a Mitt Romney pack that did that ad?
That Ed, that could have come from any feminazi pack.
But that ad came from a mid- that that ad, there is so much instructive about that ad.
About once again, it's firing blanks at Trump.
This is incredible.
As a primary tool, it is it's just it it misses the the the mark so widely it's impossible to describe.
What a miss.
Anyway, that we'll get to that in just a second.
But K6 being asked about it by a reporter.
You you mentioned the new ad with the women quoting Trump.
You weren't aware of these things that Trump had said before.
I really was not.
I really was.
It took uh for me to see the Friday video, and then I actually 48 hours ago asked Chris Schrift to give me a list of all the quotes, which I had not really seen before.
You know, things move fast in the presidential campaign.
You don't really focus on um I focus on what I'm gonna be doing at my next event.
I'm focused on who's winning the golf tournament that I'm interested in.
And that's about it.
But it was really the first time that my eyes were really open.
What a load.
He is trying to this his excuse why he hasn't condemned Trump is what this is about.
I didn't know he was saying any of this.
You know, I've been so focused on my own campaign.
Isn't it remarkable?
Look at a guy coming from where I come from, McKee's Rocks, outside Pittsburgh.
I cast my own ballot for myself as press.
It's really incredible.
I didn't notice this other stuff going on.
I I had to get a guy, they furnished me a list of Trump quotes.
I had no idea.
You mean you really don't focus on what other people how about the debates?
Well, I'm focusing on what I'm gonna say next in the debate.
I'm not really paying any attention.
I'm going to my next event, I'm focused on who's winning the golf turner.
It's really the first time my eyes were opened about Trump.
I had no idea he was saying this stuff.
Okay, finding it back in a minute, folks.
Okay, by the way, a new poll out from Monmouth University.
This is the one that Trump is uh creaming everybody in Florida.
And the poll says that the Chicago protests that shut down the Trump event there actually made twenty-two percent of Florida voters more likely to vote for Trump.
So it helped him.
Uh on balance.
Net one more sound bite into the phones, Charlie Rose, CBS this morning with Kasich, not happy with him.
You had very high polling numbers in Ohio, up close to eighty percent.
Yet you're running in a very close race with Donald Trump in your home state.
Well, Charlie, you know how crazy this year is.
You report on it every day.
I mean, we're gonna win Ohio, and then it's a whole new ball game, and I will be off all across the country.
I've had more attention in the last two weeks than I've had really since I started this campaign.
And it's because I haven't been wrestling in the mud with anybody.
And I think the people will reward me.
Charlie is exasperated.
Kasich is not wiping the floor with Trump in Ohio.
K uh Charlie thinks that this ought not even be close.
That Kasich ought to be winning by double digits.
Hell yeah, the governor.
Everybody wants to move to Ohio based on the way you talk about it, and Trump's almost beating you there.
What the hell are you doing wrong?
And Kasich says, Well, it doesn't matter.
It's a whole new race when I went to Ohio today.
You watch.
And that's what they're banking on, folks.
I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you to the phones we go, John, Orlando, Florida.
Welcome, sir.
I appreciate your patience.
Hello.
Uh hi, Mr. Limbaugh.
It's a pleasure to talk with you today.
Thank you very much.
Uh well, I'll get right to my point.
Uh, Mr. Limba, I'm 45 years old.
I've never voted before.
Uh, never even been registered to vote.
Uh closest I came was to voting uh for Perot in uh 1992.
Uh I guess I just never felt like there was a candidate um, you know, that represented me or or who would actually do what I thought needed to be done for this country.
And uh I'm proud to say that uh two weeks ago by absentee ballot, uh I voted for Mr. Trump.
And uh I'm just tired of these career guys, these career politicians running the country into the ground.
You know, uh there's five hundred and thirty-five uh people in Congress who turn being a politician into a 30 or 40 year career.
Yeah, and they expect us to just bow down and do what they say all the while they make them themselves exempt uh from these laws that they pass.
Let me let me ask you a question about your not voting.
I mean, as I hear we hear from people out here who are over the years who tell me that uh whatever election is gonna be their first one.
Right.
Uh you you you said that you never voted.
Did you register or you didn't even do that?
No, I'd never even been read the okay.
You didn't register, therefore you didn't vote because there was nobody that really reflected what you was there nobody you wanted to vote against in all that time?
Was there nobody that worried you so much that you thought it wise to register to vote against them?
Uh there is some, you know, there's some wisdom in that, but I think for me, I just felt like uh, you know, the Republican and Democrat parties have have gotten so close uh over the years, it to me it was kind of like six and one half a dozen of the other.
Um, I don't I don't blame you for thinking that.
I mean, it's hard to draw a line of distinction between the two parties on immigration.
So we hear this a lot, folks, over the years.
For Perot, we heard it.
I've never voted Rush.
I've never voted in my life, but I'm signing up now.
I'm voting for Trump.
It's anecdotal.
We don't try to attach any kind of meaningful weight to it, but uh still wanted to call and tell us that's that more when we get back.
We are back.
Rushlin ball with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
I want to really thank those of you on the phones.
I I I know that it's a long wait for for many of you, and I I I really do uh appreciate it.
To be honest, this last couple of three weeks, there has been so much material.
I mean, it's so much that I have wanted to comment on.
I could have done all three hours five, six days in a row without uh any phone calls or even any audio soundbugs.
And if I had guests, I haven't the slightest idea where I would have squeezed any of them in.
It's it's been that voluminous and intense.
But yet people line up here every day and they patiently hang on.
I I can't tell you how much I appreciate that, folks.
I I know it's a long period of time, so I'm gonna stick with the phones here.
But we have coming up this ad that the Romney pack put together of a bunch of women quoting things that Trump has said over the course of his life about women.
And it's it's designed to shock and alert female Trump voters that they're about to make a huge mistake by voting for this guy because he's the biggest sexist, biggest misogynist, biggest male chauvinist that there ever has been.
And just listen to what a reprobate the guy is.
And the ad sounds and looks exactly like it would have come from the now gang.
It looks like it would have come from the nags, any feminist group in the world.
It looks exactly like a war on women ad.
And I'm telling you, I don't get the tone-deafness that's a Romney pack that did this ad.
They do not have the awareness to understand that you produce an ad that just as well could have been produced by Democrats, it isn't going to work.
It's not going to dissuade people from voting for Trump.
Because the Democrats and the Nags and all these special interests on the left are considered the uh the enemy, the opposition.
These are the people that have to be beaten.
And it looks like with Romney's ad, those are the people he's siding with.
Now you would never know it's a Romney ad.
It's it's a uh such and such pack paid for this thing.
That's why I say people that are gonna see this ad are going to think the Democrats did it.
And when they find out Republicans did it, they're gonna be even angrier.
And it's gonna end up being counterproductive.
And we'll get to it in a moment, but first I want to stick with the phones and get to some of these uh great people been hanging on for a while.
We go to Mary in Cincinnati.
Thank you for waiting, and welcome to the program.
Thank you, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
Um I wanted to make a couple points.
I'm a conservative.
I did vote for Ted Cruz today.
Um what I wanted to say was why, because uh Ted Cruz is what this country needs, I feel.
Also, Casey you have Casey, and to me I've seen what he's done with Ohio, and I'm not real happy about it.
Um he is like a Democrat in disguise.
Um I don't know how much in disguise he is.
Yeah, really.
Right.
And uh also with Trump, I have been perplexed about why people would vote for this man who has been all words and has never proven anything.
You know, ha has not shown any history of what he's saying.
He reminds me it's like the Obamacare.
Well, when he gets in, we'll find out what it's about.
Right.
You know.
And he's also like a used car salesman selling lemons to desperate people.
That's the way I see it.
I know that's strong.
That's the way I see it for the city.
Or use car salesman.
They get them aligned every day of the year by somebody.
Well, no, no, no, no, no.
I understand uh Mary exactly where you're where you're coming from.
And if you there's nothing wrong with voting for Cruz.
That that's great.
I I think I've said it I don't know how many times, that Ted Cruz is the antidote to what Obama has done, what the left has done.
No, no, I mean there's no question.
You don't have to worry that Ted Cruz is going to be somebody different after he's elected.
You don't have to worry that he's lying to you about being conservative just to get your vote.
It really is who he is.
Um but at the same time I can tell you, I I'm not gonna go through it again, uh, Mary, because it would take me a while.
But but I know exactly why people are are gravitating to Trump, the people who are, I know exactly why.
I I can explain it to anybody.
And I can I can do it in five minutes, I can do it in an hour and a half.
I could spend an hour and a half, if anybody wanted to listen, explaining why.
Some people are gravitating at Trump.
There's all kinds of different reasons for it.
Uh or I could give you the Cliff Notes version and uh it probably even less than five minutes.
But I've done that I don't know how many times, so I I'm not I'm not gonna be repetitive and go through it again here.
But I'll tell you something that is out there, and I had this piece yesterday here, and I only referenced it.
I didn't get into it in detail.
Michael Lind was at one time, he was a a research aide for William F. Buckley Jr.
And it was back in the day when the conservative movement was fascinated in who Buckley would anoint as the next him, the successor, as the de facto intellectual lead of the conservative movement of the Reagan Goldwater Buckley brand of conservatism.
Not that there are a whole bunch of brands, but it's that there have there are now.
I mean, you you have some conservatives who are part of the Reagan era is over crowd.
Michael Lind was that guy.
Henry Kissinger thought that Michael Lind was an intellectual powerhouse, was perfectly suited to taking the baton.
And then they found out they were wrong.
That he was not.
I I forget what happened.
I forget the specific event, but he wrote a series of things and said a couple of things, I don't know what, but he eventually he disappointed them, and they for lack of a better word, it was not abandoned, but but they they withdrew uh their claim that he was.
And he'd convinced them, and they had fallen for it.
But he's still out there.
He's not a bad guy.
He's just, he's just, he's not the conservative they thought that he was.
I don't know him, I've never talked to him, never met him.
I only know all of this uh by virtue of memory, and I may have some of it, some of it wrong.
But he wrote an article last week for the political magazine.
And he says that essentially what's going on on the Republican side of things is the gradual erosion of Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan conservatism.
And without reading the whole piece here, his point is that it really never has been that big.
It's never been that dominant.
It never has been the dominant force in the Republican Party.
It's been a powerful force that others in the party had to respect and welcome because it was a sizable number of votes, but it's never been the intellectual definition of the Republican Party.
And in this piece, Lind said that the growing populist discontent, i.e.
the support for Trump, is bringing about the gradual replacement of Buckley Goldwater Reagan conservatism by something more like European national populist movements like the National Front in France.
He then said that conservative ideas never were all that popular, claiming that movement conservatism as well as neoconservatism, that would be the internationalist guise.
Libertarianism, the religious right, they appear to have been so many barnacles hitching free rides on the whale of the Jacksonian populist electorate.
So if I can translate that, his point is that the Buckley Goldwater Reagan conservatism, the neocons, libertarians, the moral majority to Christian right.
They've all been separate enclaves that were like barnacles attaching themselves to the whale that was either a populism or the Republican Party.
And they've been hitching a free ride.
Wherever the Republican Party went, they went.
They were not leading the Republican Party, they were traveling along with it and always at odds with it to one degree or another.
Now it was in the early 90s this guy was Buckley's research assistant, and he's the executive editor of the national interest, and he soured on conservatism, which he says he came to view as excessively solicitous of evangelicals, the militia movement, and the mega rich.
In other words, he was embarrassed to be a conservative because of who he saw gloming onto the movement.
Militia movement?
The militia movement?
The militia movement.
Who do we associate the militia movement with?
Certainly not what didn't the militia movement pop up with uh that wasn't that part of the parole era?
I mean, Clinton's out there blaming me for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Oh no, no, we don't mean Limbaugh, we mean uh Michigan militia.
He says that the best explanation of Trump's surprising success is that the constituency Trump has mobilized has existed for decades.
It's not new.
These people have been out there for decades, But the right champion never came along.
Like his fans, Trump is indifferent to the issues of sexual orientation that animate the declining religious right.
Trump's platform combines positions that are shared by many populists, but are anephema to movement conservatives, a defense of social security, a guarantee of universal health care, economic nationalist trade policies.
He says there's been a whole cadre of people.
They don't care about social issues.
A whole cadre of conservatives don't want to wash their hands of all that, but they've never had the right guy come along, and Trump's the guy.
Trump comes along.
They they don't mind social security, these people.
They want government-run health care.
Hostility to both illegal immigration and high levels of legal immigration or legal immigration, a position which free market conservatives had fought to marginalize, has moved very quickly from heresy to orthodoxy in the GOP.
So I I think I think we have some sour grapes here.
And it's yet another attack on uh conservatism, primarily the Buckley Goldwater Reagan conservatism.
And in this case, the success of Trump is being used by some people, and this is folks, it's not just happening to the Republican Party.
The Trump success is providing ammunition for enemies of anything not liberal.
The conservative movement, conservatism, libertarianism, you name it, Trump's success is being used by people like Lind and other leftist and mainstream media writers to marginalize the Republican Party conservative movement and say, see, it's never been what they say it is.
It's never been big.
It's always been small with a bunch of kooks.
And Trump's come along and has marginalized these people and he's easily split them away.
And so you conservatives and you Republicans thinking that you're big and dominant, you never have been a factor.
It just took Trump to show you.
But all of that is full of it.
That's what they're scared of.
That's what they want Trump to be doing.
If all that were true, you wouldn't have Rubio and Cruz and others.
I I know look, Rubio, it's a shame.
That gang of eight.
If it if he hadn't made that misstep.
But he did, so we can't play the game of if.
But that's opened all him up to all sorts of allegations that he's not really a conservative, might have been playing games with people, but uh.
Anyway, there's an all-out assault now on uh all of this, and Trump's success is the vehicle for it, and that's why the Republican Party is making a huge mistake by joining it.
Republican Party's making the biggest mistake of their life by joining in with this because they have such tight Well, I've looked at take a break.
I see the clock.
Hang in there, folks.
I'll finish this when we get back.
Now, no, my only point is is there's an all-out assault on conservatism going on here.
And the the left and the right, the Democrats and the Republicans are taking the occasion of the Trump phenomena, whatever you want to call it, to mount this attack, and the Republican Party is committing suicide by joining it.
Is my only point, and I I know a lot of you are going to disagree with me uh on that, but do not doubt me on this.
Because the left wants to wipe out everybody to disagree.
They not just the conservative movement.
They want to neuter the Republican Party.
They pretty much already have, and they would love to close the deal.
But they they too are scared of Trump.
I need to spend more time developing this.
I just got a soundbite.
I have no idea what this is, except it's about me and Operation Chaos.
It was a CNN legal view, Ashley Manfield talking to Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker.
She says, I want to talk to you about what the Secretary of State just said in Ohio.
He said the Democrats are crossing over in that primary.
Two reasons.
They might want to vote for the governor because they like him.
They might want to stop Trump because they don't like him, or they may like Trump.
They may be voting for him.
It all sounds logical.
What's going on here, Ryan?
What's apparently a big crossover happening in Ohio.
And here's what Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker said.
I'm a little skeptical that people voting strategically like that can have a big influence.
We have seen previous primaries.
If you remember, in 2008, Rush Limbaugh announced Operation Chaos, and he encouraged conservatives to go vote in the Democratic primaries to make the Obama Hillary Clinton race go on a little bit longer.
The evidence was it really didn't have much of an impact.
So I take it with a grain of salt.
But you know, but you but she's worried about they're worried something's happening here that they didn't factor.
They didn't factor knowing about all the Democrat crossovers in Ohio.
So they're hoping that they're voting for Kasich.
Please, Ryan, tell us they're voting for Kasich.
They're worried that some of these Democrats are crossing over and voting for Trump.
I'm just folks, look, taking personalities aside.
If you want Ted Cruz to win this nomination, Kasich and Rubio have to lose.
Trump has to win Ohio and Florida today, as much as that might sound like it's counterintuitive.
If that doesn't happen, if Kasich wins Ohio, then you better get ready for the establishment.
Come in here, try to own the rest of this.
The End Strategic voting.
They are paranoid.
They can't get Operation Chaos out of their heads, folks.
When they say no evidence it was successful, BS.
There was all kinds of evidence it was successful, so that's why they can't forget it.
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