No, I don't know what Trump's going to say, respond to this.
Trump is, you know, the debate tonight is in Detroit.
Trump's in Portland, Maine.
He's about to come out and do an appearance in Portland, Maine.
So he'll have to do his appearance there, wrap up and hop back on Trump 1 and head to Detroit.
I don't know what can he say.
I'm the same guy and Mitt Romney loved and adored and appreciated four years ago.
I'm the same guy.
I haven't changed.
They have whatever.
I don't know if he's going to come back and fire both barrels like he's normally known for here.
And the reason I say that is because of the different attitude that he adopted after the Tuesday night press conference, which everybody remarked upon.
I mean, wow, it's really a serious presidential temperament and behavior and so forth.
So our microphones are in Portland, Maine.
And if it looks interesting, we might jip a little bit of it.
In the meantime, we have some audio soundbites here.
I want to hit 800-282-2882 for when we go back to the phones.
Last night on special report with Brett Baer, during the All-Star panel, one of the all-stars, one of the Fox All-Stars last night was Jonah Goldberg of National Review.
He's one of the senior editors.
And they were talking about what's going on here in the Republican Party and trying to figure out how this all happened.
How did this guy Trump come from nowhere?
Why has Trump got so much support?
What in the world's going on?
Brett Baer said to Jonah Goldberg, Ted Cruz says that he had to consolidate his support before he could take on Trump.
That's why he delayed taking on Trump.
Jonah, what do you think about what Cruz said there?
It's a theory.
Look, I mean, at the end of the day, the amount of blame to be distributed across the landscape from the mainstream media to various people in talk radio to the Republican establishment and the counter-establishment, you'd have to set up FEMA tents to distribute all of the blame that deserves to go around.
And Ted Cruz certainly deserves some.
And he picked a strategy that backfired on him because he did not expect that Donald Trump would eat so much of his base, which is a lot of what we saw on Super Tuesday.
The question there was, why didn't Cruz start firing back at Trump sooner?
Why didn't Rubio?
And I've already explained that.
Everybody in the Republican race thought Trump was going to bomb out at some point.
They thought one of three things.
Trump's going to quit.
He's going to have had his thrills and go.
He's going to say something so over the top that he's going to have to resign in embarrassment.
Or his people are just going to abandon him.
And whatever the reason, neither Cruz nor Rubio nor anybody else wanted to tick off Trump supporters because they wanted them when Trump left the campaign.
That's why.
That's why they go after Trump.
And there's another reason, too.
You go after Trump, he comes after you.
And I think that might have been a factor.
So Mr. Goldberg here is casting a wide net for blame, essentially.
Why did Trump happen?
Who's responsible for it?
And he goes through the whole gamut.
Various people in talk radio, the mainstream media, Republican establishment, counter-establishment.
You need FEMA tents to be able to handle all the people blamed for this whole circumstance.
I have to remind everybody, there are a lot of us here that are not surprised.
If it wasn't Trump, it was going to be something.
You cannot have two landslide elections, 2010, 2014, midterm elections, where the Republican base gives the Republicans the Senate, gives them the House, and nothing changes, nothing happens.
I mean, the Republican Party itself brought this on.
The Republican Party itself set the table, established the circumstances where an outsider, be it Cruz or Trump, was going to come in and captivate the imagination of voters because the Republican Party had let them down.
Okay, let's jip Trump.
Trump just started in Portland, Maine.
Let's see what he does, if anything, with Romney.
There's a little bit of a thing called the debate.
Get him out, please.
Get him out.
People going nuts here.
They just threw out a protest.
What are they doing, right?
What's the purpose?
What are the purpose?
Well, it gets a little television time, I guess.
But, you know, I was going to the debate, and I was going directly in from Florida.
I'm down in Florida.
We're campaigning.
We're doing really well in Florida.
We're campaigning against a guy that has the worst voting record in the history of the state of Florida, named Drubio.
He's, I call him lightweight.
He's a lightweight.
But got the worst record of the history of Florida, so I don't know.
I should do well there.
Let's hope I do well there.
I love Florida.
But I was going to Detroit, and I said to my people, I have to stop in Maine.
I felt so, I just had to stop down there.
So I wouldn't say that it's a very direct route, would you say?
Instead of going this way, I went this way and this way, and that is good.
I'm so glad.
And you know, to put this incredible, sold-out crowd, and you have thousands of people outside, to put this crowd together in a period of, what, 24 hours is poor.
And Maine is amazing.
You know, Maine is one of the most beautiful places on earth.
And people don't realize how large your landmass is.
I was talking to Paul.
As large as all of New England when you think about it.
He knows everybody's waiting to hear what he says about Romney, just stringing everybody along here.
This is smart showmanship.
Just hang in there, folks.
With great interest, as we get to, you know, go down the line.
We've had some amazing results.
And right nearby with New Hampshire, it was an amazing, incredible thing.
And by the way, every single time I went to New Hampshire, whenever I met with people, they'd always say, number one problem, number one problem, heroin.
Number one problem.
And I'd say, how's that possible?
You know, you look at these beautiful fields and the beautiful little roads and everything's so beautiful.
And it was the number one problem.
And it comes from our southern border.
And we're going to close up that border and we're going to build a wall and we're going to stop the drugs from coming in.
Believe me.
We're going to stop.
And people are going to come into our country, but they're going to come in legally.
They're going to come in legally.
But we're going to solve the problem.
But, you know, I watched these pundits.
And when I first started, my wife Milani and I, we came down the escalator, right?
And I first started.
And it was an amazing thing.
I said, you know, we have to do something because we have people that don't know what they're doing.
They don't know what they're doing in running our country.
And I got some of that today, you know, just in hearing some of these things.
But they don't know what they're doing.
We have to do it.
And it takes guts to run for president.
I'm not a politician.
I'm not a politician.
All talk, no action, nothing gets done.
And anyway, we're coming down, and I said to myself, you know, there's so many things.
And then I watched the pundits, and they said, oh, Trump, I don't know.
We have some great talent running.
And I'm trying to figure out where, where, what's the talent?
What's the talent?
But, you know, you come down and you do it and you start talking about trade and you see what happens with trade.
Trade has been, trade has been such a disaster.
But the pundits all said, you know, I came out at 3%, first one.
And my wife said, you know, if you run, you're going to win.
But you actually have to run.
You can't say you're going to run because they won't poll it.
But even if they do poll it, people still say you're not going to run.
She said, but if you run, you're going to win.
I said, oh, she's my pollster.
She's my pollster.
I paid her less money, but she's better than the.
So you know what happened?
I started at three the first day or something.
I was at three, which I wasn't exactly thrilled about.
Then it went up to six.
It went up to 12.
It went up to 18.
And then it kept going up.
And every time I went up, the pundits would say, he's plateaued, you know, plateaued.
Well, he's always going to get six.
That's a six solid group.
Then I went up to 12.
Well, you know, that's a solid group.
Then I went up to 24.
And he said, and don't forget, that's with 17 people.
We had 17 people.
That's a lot.
24 with 17 people is pretty good.
So we went up to 24.
And they said, well, that's the max.
There can't be any more.
Then we went up to 28, 32.
So CNN just came out with a poll.
Trump, 49.
National.
That's high.
That's honey.
And, you know, I'm very proud of it because this is not a plateau.
This is a movement.
We have a movement going on, folks.
Time magazine did a story recently, a couple of weeks ago, talking about what's going on.
And they've never seen anything like it.
People have never seen it.
They say, actually, and I don't think I'm exaggerating this at all, and I don't want to exaggerate, but many of the great writers, of which there are very few, because the media is among the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with.
But they said, they said that in the history of this country, there's never been anything like this, what's happening.
We were in Huntsville, Alabama the other day.
We had 35,000 people.
35,000 people.
We went to Arkansas, which you saw we won.
Oh, is that another one?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
All right, get them out.
Get him out.
Get him out.
They just don't stop.
All right, get them out.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Terrible.
Incredible.
You know, you can be nice.
But if you're nice, they'll say, oh, you were so soft.
Then you can be vicious.
Get out of here, right?
And then they'll say, you were too harsh.
So I've developed a nice, all right, please get them out.
And they're being thrown out.
I love you too.
I love you too.
I love you, too.
And by the way, you know, I'm self-funding my campaign.
I'm putting up all my money.
I'm not.
But you have to do all I want.
I don't want your money.
I just want one thing.
You vote on Saturday.
Get out and vote.
Don't forget, I did that big, long turn.
Slightly long.
It did a big turn.
So you can get out to vote, okay?
That's the least you can.
He went really out of his way to get to Maine, so they should vote.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
So our country and our theme is make America great again.
And over the last little while, I've met so many people, thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
We have, like this.
Now, this is, we're only confined by the size of the room.
This is packed, but this is just four minutes to get to Romney, and we've got to bump out here, folks.
So I'm just letting you know in advance.
I have more confidence in this country now than I've ever had before.
I have seen, I mean, millions of people, really, because when you get 35,000, 40,000 people for rallies, and we have by far the biggest rallies, I will say that.
And Bernie is second.
He's second, but he's a distant second.
But he is second.
I have to give him credit for that.
But we have by far the biggest, and I see by far the most people.
And this country has unbelievable people that love our country.
Just remember that.
And I want to see the day in the not-too-distant future when Apple makes their iPhones in this country and not in China and all of these other places.
Now, I heard, and I saw just a little bit of it, but I heard that Mitt Romney made a fairly long speech.
And I mean, honestly, I thought, I'll just address it quickly because it's irrelevant.
Look, Mitt is a failed candidate.
He failed.
He failed horribly.
The third debate.
He failed badly.
That was a race, I have to say, folks, that should have been won.
That was a race that absolutely should have been won.
And I don't know what happened to him.
He disappeared.
He disappeared.
And I wasn't happy about it, I'll be honest, because I am not a fan of Barack Obama, and that was a race.
And I backed Mitt Romney.
I backed him.
You can see how loyal he is.
He was begging for my endorsement.
I could have said, Mitt, drop to your knees.
He would have dropped to his knees.
He was begging.
There you have it.
He was begging me.
And did you see how great he said, oh, I'm not big like him.
He's the great businessman, all that stuff.
Well, since then, I've done much better.
And now he tries to demean.
But we'll talk about that in a second.
But Mitt was thinking about running again.
He ran a horrible campaign.
It was a campaign that should have never been lost.
You're running against a failed president.
He came up with the 47%.
He demeaned 47% of the people in our country, right?
The famous 47%.
Once that was said, I'll be honest, once that was said, a lot of people thought it was over for him.
Then the last month and a half, he disappeared.
And I called his people.
I said, you have to do yourself a favor.
Obama, say what you want.
He was on Jay Leno.
He was on David Letterman.
He was all over the place the last three, four weeks.
Mitt was looking for zoning for a nine-car garage or something in California, right?
I said, what's he doing?
Who cares about a garage?
You're running for president.
And Mitt was a disaster as a candidate.
So what happened, and it was very strong, and I think if the press goes back, they'll see it.
When I heard he was running again, and I wasn't sure I was going to be running, but I was very, very strong to Mitt and to everybody and publicly, not to talk to him, because I didn't even want to talk to him.
I was so disappointed in him.
Because he let us down.
He let us down.
You know, it's one thing you lose and you work and you work and you go.
He let us down.
He should have won.
Something happened to him.
He went away.
He was gone.
He was horrible in the third debate.
It was a horrible thing.
Something happened.
I don't know what happened.
Maybe someday they'll write a book.
His campaign guy was terrible, terrible.
He had a terrible campaign manager who's always on television, Stuart Stevens or something.
He's always on television, knocking everybody.
The guy ran one of the worst campaigns in the history of modern politics.
And Mitt ran probably the worst run that most people have seen because most people thought that the Republican candidate would win.
So when Mitt started raising his head a few months ago, I was very strong.
I said, Mitt Romney should not run.
He's a choke artist.
And I said it very strongly.
I wanted to keep him in.
And then Jeb Bush actually convinced Mitt not to run.
Can you imagine?
Jeb, Jeb sold him.
Jeb, he's a good salesman.
See, now that he's out, I'll say Jeb's a good salesman, right?
He's a high-energy salesman.
But Mitt was afraid of Jeb because he was afraid that Jeb would get the money and Jeb would get whatever.
And, you know, I wasn't afraid.
I wasn't afraid of Jeb, I can tell you that.
So what happened is Jeb.
I have to bump out here.
We have to go to our obscene profit timeout, but we pretty much have it there.
Treating the Romney speech today is an irrelevancy from somebody who has become irrelevant and it's really not worthy of much comment.
And you put him and Jeb Bush together and do high-energy salesmanship, and you lose to Democrats, and who wants any more of that?
So that's pretty much the summary.
He'll keep going, but we have to take a brief timeout.
All right, our microphones are in Portland, Maine.
Still, we'll go back.
And Jeb Trump has now gotten back to Romney and Rubio.
So here's a couple more minutes of Trump today.
The west side of Manhattan, that I built buildings all over Manhattan.
He didn't mention into this that he was talking about a beef, and he talked about a water company, which, by the way, I still have.
I supply all my clubs with water.
You know, numerous of those things I have, the magazine, other things.
Get him out of here.
Get him out.
Get him out.
Hey, by the way, speaking of Mexico, I won the Hispanic vote by far in Nevada, right?
We won.
In the polls during the we won Nevada, we won South Carolina, we won New Hampshire.
Then we had the big, big Tuesday where we won a tremendous number.
And I have to tell you this.
So ultimately, Mitt chickened out.
And now he's saying, probably sees Hillary's very weak.
And now he said, oh, I wish I went.
I wish I tried it.
But ultimately, he didn't because he would have gotten beaten very badly.
But I'll tell you what.
A couple of things were mentioned that we have to discuss.
First of all, when he talks about me, I wrote just a couple of them down.
When he talks about me, they don't want to talk about 92-story buildings all over the place.
They don't want to talk about the Bank of America building in San Francisco, 1290 Avenue of the Americas.
They don't want to talk about the Westside Railroad Yards where I built the city on the west side of Manhattan, a tremendous city on the west side of Manhattan.
They don't want to talk about 40 Wall Street and all the buildings.
They want to talk about water, which I still have.
I supply all my clubs.
I have a water company.
They want to talk about a magazine, and I have a magazine.
It goes to all my clubs.
They want little tiny things, you know, wherever you can find.
By the way, a school, little deal, but very, you know, I loved it when it was there.
They call it Trump University, Trump Initiative.
But I will tell you, just so you understand on the school, the school had 98% approval rating.
But you had an attorney that felt, oh, maybe I can sue Trump and get something.
The school had a 98%.
In other words, 98% of the people that took the courses, we signed report cards.
That's why you can't settle a case like that.
You put somebody up in the stand.
Did you write this?
The most beautiful thing.
They did a commercial, they took it down where two people were going and saying negative, and then we showed them the statement that they wrote.
They had to take the commercial down.
Because 98% of the people that took the course, that took the courses, said really wonderful things about it.
The other thing's got an A, an A from the Better Business Bureau.
So I say, how do I settle a case like this?
A B would be okay, too.
B would be okay, but we did better than a B. So there you have.
So Donald Trump is, he said he's going to go through a couple of things, point by point, that Romney mentioned.
And one of them, obviously, is his businesses that have failed, and the Trump University responded to that.
Now we have another EIB obscene profit timeout.
Back to your phone calls when we get back, folks.
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We are not going to go back to Donald Trump.
We've got the flavor, what we wanted, how he was going to react to Mitt Romney.
I'll just pass along one thing that happened during the commercial break and it's still going on.
The issue that he decided to refute Romney on was China and trade.
Romney attempting to say that Trump doesn't know what he's doing in trade, would cost everybody money.
China will end up winning.
And Trump took it on.
And the way he did it was to explain that he knows more about trade and business than Romney, and he's got a store that's worth more than Romney's worth.
And nobody believed that his store on Fifth Avenue could be worth that much.
Three appraisers went in, found out it's worth five times what Romney's worth.
Independent appraisers.
Now he's describing how he bought the old post office in Washington and it languished for 35 years and everybody wanted to develop it.
Nobody could, but he's come along and done it.
Finest hotel in the world, going to open two years early.
Did it with the GSA?
The point is, he's describing this to his audience there and explaining the bid process and how he did it and how he does his business.
And I don't care, folks, whatever you think, Trump is explaining this to people in ways that candidates don't explain how they do what they do.
That politicians don't explain how they do what they do.
Trump is going rhyme and reason verse step by step the bid process.
Here's what I was up against.
This is what I had to do.
This is what I did.
You can check it.
You can call anybody.
But the bottom line is that when it's all over, nobody doubts he knows what he's doing is the bottom line.
Nobody doubts that he's extremely competent in the way he tells the story.
He brings this crowd along with him step by step.
What he had to do, what other people had failed in doing.
He gives them insight into how he does deals in his business.
Whether it's smoke and mirrors or not is not relevant.
The point is, the crowd is there assembled and people watching on TV cannot help but conclude the guy is an expert in this and does do deals that he wins.
And that's how he's refuting Romney on doesn't know what he's doing in trade and dealing with China and that kind of stuff.
Let's go back to the phones because people still want in on this.
Been waiting for a while.
Jeff in Warner Robbins, Georgia.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
How are you today?
Just fine.
Thank you, sir.
Great to talk to you.
Hey, I'm a Cruz supporter, and I'm just wondering how do you think that this Romney's speech is actually helpful to Trump because it just is more evidence that the establishment doesn't like him.
And I wonder if you have any ideas about how Senator Cruz might be able to combat that.
I have one run by you maybe and see what you think.
Well, first thing, you're right.
Just, you know, every call we've had today has been of the opinion, every caller has been of the opinion that Romney did not do anything but help Trump here by either making people matter at Romney and madder at the administration and more defensive or supportive of Trump or insult them or what have you.
But we haven't taken one call from one person who thought it's about time somebody said what Romney says about none of that.
I've been checking my email.
I can't check near all of it because it's too voluminous.
But throughout the everywhere I'm looking for reaction, drive-by media in various TV networks and websites, everybody thinks what you think, that this is going to get Trump an additional four points in the polls.
Stirdly, have you seen anybody out there that thinks Romney hit a home run today?
I haven't either.
I haven't found one person.
Now, before you tell me how you think this might help Cruz.
Oh, I don't think it'll help Cruz.
I just wonder how what can Cruz say?
How can he react to it in order to spin it, I suppose, for lack of a better term?
Well, to damage Cruz, the one thing that people need to know about Cruz that they don't know, this is, look, I could be all wet here.
I think Ted Cruz was an outsider before Trump.
I think Ted Cruz came along and took on the establishment before Trump did.
But the problem that Cruz has, he's an elected senator.
He just, that right there says the opposite of being an outsider.
It doesn't matter that he's taking them on face-to-face, floor of the Senate, Mitt versus Cruz versus McConnell and so forth.
That happened in the daytime.
I don't know how many people actually saw that later on that day or later on that week on the news.
But when you get right down to it, perceptions are what they are.
And Cruz is in the Senate.
He is an elected Republican in the Senate.
And Trump's not.
Trump's got nothing to do with politics.
He is genuinely physically an outsider.
Cruz is an outsider, and he has been fighting these people longer than Trump has, but he's been doing it from inside, from within.
So I think what he needs to do tonight is just hype the fact that he is an outsider as well, because that's the magic here.
And he's got to let it be known that even though he's in the Senate and even though he was elected and ran for office, that he has chosen to take them on face to face.
But I think, speaking about this, he's got to branch out and use language that is not specifically tailored to movement conservatives.
So I know what Cruz's election strategy is, or was before Trump got in.
And it's all rooted around the 4 to 5 million people, Republicans, who did not vote in 2012.
Because I've talked to Senator Cruz about it, and he's of the belief that if those 4 to 5 million could be inspired to turn out and vote and everything else stays the same, the Republicans could win.
So he set out to get those 4 to 5 million.
And he is of the opinion that they are very conservative, movement conservative, even some of them evangelicals.
That's why he speaks the way he does.
He's speaking that language.
When he talks about Obamacare, when he talks about Supreme Court, when he talks about any of these issues, he uses language that you would see any movement conservative on a conservative website use or a conservative magazine.
He needs to branch out and use language that says the same thing, but doesn't sound like it is movement conservative ideological.
And that's what I think the challenge is, is his message isn't wrong.
It's just he's limiting his appeal because he actually is trying to appeal to a small group of people.
He's assuming that the people that voted for Romney in 12 are going to show up and vote Republican again.
So they're there.
The four to five million that didn't vote, that's his target.
Plus, I think I heard him say once that whatever the total number of evangelicals in the country, 24, 25 million.
So he's trying to talk in language that'll get to them too.
But he's got to branch out because that language is limiting and it is language that inside conservative movement people use.
So I think he's got a harp on that.
I think he can't let Trump own this outsider status.
Do you think he could come back and paint Trump as an I mean, my view on Trump is just because he hasn't been elected to office doesn't make him an outsider.
He's been rubbing elbows with the powerful people in Washington politics for 20 or 30 years.
No, that's not, that's not no.
He ought to not even try to take Trump voters away.
That's a losing proposition.
Romney proved that today.
He's got to go out and get people that were going to vote for Jeb.
He's got to get people that were going to vote for Ruby.
He's got to get people who are going to vote for Kasich, Carson.
He's got to focus on all of those Republican votes that have not voted for Trump.
He doesn't need to take one vote away from Trump because that isn't going to happen.
I don't think going after Trump, especially after this today, going after Trump today is going to be seen as piling on with Romney, and that's not going to do him any good.
Nobody wants Romney to be joined in this.
Okay, let me ask you this one.
What you think this may or may not work?
Could you say that comparing Trump and Romney, other than the vast personality differences, they're both Northeastern liberals who, for most of their life, were pro-choice and pro-gun control.
No, and they're not.
No, I'm going to tell you.
I'm telling you again.
I'm going to tell you you're going to lose if Trump is your target.
Leave Trump alone.
And not because you don't want Trump hitting you.
There are many people voting in these primaries that are not voting for Trump, that are not voting for Cruz.
He's got to go get them.
And I don't think trying to link Romney and Trump is going to work after Trump gets through dissecting Romney today, number one.
But number two, Nobody's, you're not going to talk Trump voters out of voting for Trump.
It isn't, it isn't going to happen.
Now, if it sounds to me like you're more interested in Trump being discredited than you are in Cruz winning, and you might want to join the crowd that's tried that, but there hasn't been anybody to succeed at it yet.
I just think there are a lot of primary votes yet to be had from people who oppose Trump.
He's not winning a majority of Republican votes.
He's getting a majority of the media coverage.
He's getting a majority of the fascination.
But when you look at raw vote totals, Cruz is only 79 delegates behind him right now.
So, and I'm not, no, I'm not trying to protect Trump.
I'm telling you the truth.
There's no way that anybody is going to talk Trump voters out of supporting him.
And there's no way you're not going to convince a Trump voter that there's no difference in Trump and Romney.
You're not going to convince a Trump voter that there's even similarity.
It's a losing proposition.
Even if it's true, you're not going to succeed.
Trump's supporters are glued because it's about more than Trump.
So the focus has to be elsewhere.
This is clearly and as plainly as I can see it.
Say it.
We will be back.
Here is Tatum in Tampa, Tampa.
And it's great to have you, Tatum.
How are you?
I'm well.
I'll show my age and say dittos.
And I hope that the Ted Cruz people and the Rubio people are listening to your program today.
Take some advice from you.
Well, Tom.
I have a problem with the personification of Trump's supporters as being angry.
And I think that they're not angry.
I think they're afraid.
I think that they're afraid that this has gone so far there's no turning back and that he's the only choice.
And people would go to the bully when they're afraid.
And they're really angry.
And no one wants to say they're afraid.
So they're going to say, well, I'm angry.
Well, when you're angry, you take care of stuff yourself.
You go out and do it.
And I think Ted Cruz is the guy that's going to give us the environment to express our anger and do something about it.
Where if we go with the bully, we're going to continue to be afraid.
This is actually a very, very good point.
I've had a lot of people get a little bit irritated over being called angry.
My answer to that is it's justified.
I think anger by itself is not a shortcoming.
It's totally justified now.
But I agree with you that there are a lot of people scared.
People out of work, worried if they're going to find a job.
People who have a job, worried they're going to lose it.
People who have a savings account, worried that it's going to be taxed away from them, or some such thing.
There is fear.
People are scared out there left and right.
You're totally correct about that.
But it's justified.
It doesn't indicate any kind of a deficiency or shortcoming.
I appreciate that.
I'm glad you made that point, Tatum.
We have to go, folks.
Back to wrap it up after this.
You've heard it said that Reagan went over the heads of the media to get to the American people.
I would say Trump is kind of going under the media to get to them.