So I've I've checked the email during the course of the program today, and there's been a lot of people.
Rush, what do you mean the establishment's still thinking that Trump's not real?
Well, let me give you a headline here.
Reuters.
Trump shows his presidential bid is no mere publicity stunt.
How do you write a headline like that?
You can only write that headline if you think that all of this has been a joke up till now.
If you think Trump hasn't been serious about it, if you've been hoping, praying, thinking whatever, that this is just a bad dream, and that Trump's got some other purpose here, and at some point he's going to drop out, and all of this is just uh something you can't figure out.
But at the end of the day, it's gonna be Jeb or some traditional Republican in there.
That's how you write that headline.
I'm I'm here to tell you that even going into New Hampshire, folks.
I said yesterday, it's just a bit of an exaggeration.
Some of the people in the Republican establishment are still in July and August, September.
If Trump gets the nomination, in September, they're gonna be hoping and thinking he drops out.
Some of them are so convinced that there's some unseen secret purpose that Trump has here.
And at some point he's gonna drop out, having accomplished whatever mission that he is on.
That I mean, there's I don't know how widespread it is, but that degree of denial still rampant in uh many sectors of the administration or the establishment, rather.
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This afternoon on Wolf Blitzer.
Wolf interviewed the Republican National Committee Chairman, Rines Prebus.
And Wolf said, I'm sure you took a close look at the Republican primary exit polls from New Hampshire last night, Mr. Prebus.
Here are a few numbers that may be of concern to you.
Forty-seven percent of the Republican voters said they felt betrayed by Republican politicians.
Fifty percent said the next president should be from outside the so-called establishment.
Are you worried, Mr. Prebis, about those kinds of numbers?
These are Republican primary voters, after all, answering this way.
No, not really, because I think there's a lot of people in both parties that are mad at the parties, mad at the system, mad at Washington that, you know, it's a factional type government.
I mean, it's sort of uh very difficult, obviously, when you have a split government to get things done and people don't have time for things not getting done.
And so I think it's pretty normal, and I think it's pretty common, and I expect that that sort of vein is gonna play itself out to the next few months.
We'll have a unified party when it's done, and those folks are as long as they're staying involved, which I think is important for us to keep those folks involved in the party, that they will participate come November 2016.
Maybe I am missing something here, but didn't he just say in answer to Wolf Blitzer explaining all these Republican primary voters saying that they next press should come outside the establishment, 47% feel betrayed by Republican politicians.
Did he just say that he understands it because Republican voters are upset that things aren't getting done in Washington?
I I heard that right.
Let me let me let me consult a transcript here.
I just want to be certain that I'm not accused of misrepresenting or misinterpreting this.
So I have the transcript here.
Well, I think there's a lot of people in both parties mad at the parties, mad at the system, mad at Washington that you know it's a factional type government.
I mean it's sort of very difficult, obviously, when you have a split government to get things done, and people don't have time for things not getting done, and so I think it's pretty normal.
I think it's pretty common.
So, I mean, with all due respect, uh, it appears that the chairman of the Republican National Committee does not know.
Or if he does know, does not want to explain in truth why he knows what he knows.
But on the surface here, it appears he doesn't know that most Republican voters are sick and tired of what has gone on in Washington.
Everybody harps on the fact that there's gridlock and nothing's getting done.
That couldn't be further from the truth.
Too much is getting done.
Witness the most recent budget deal.
The Republicans clearly have a desire to work with Obama.
They clearly have a desire to work with the Democrats.
Mitch McConnell has made it abundantly clear that's what their intentions and hopes are.
In most people's opinion, there has been too little gridlock.
There hasn't been enough disagreement.
There hasn't been enough stopping the Democrats from advancing their agenda.
But apparently, it's one of two things.
Either Mr. Prebus actually believes this, that you are ticked off at all of the disagreements in Washington preventing things from getting done.
Meaning you like government.
You want more of it.
You want government working, and you want a Republican party that makes the government work, and you want a Republican Party that can work with the Democrats to get things done because only government can get things done.
And I'm here to tell you if he really believes that, that's a shocker.
It may be something he has to say for donor purposes or what have you.
Mr. Prebis, Republican voters are mad at what has gotten done.
Republican voters are frustrated beyond their ability to express it and display it to you.
They are fed up at the fundamental transformation of America that is unstopped, to which there is no opposition expressed.
But you know, these establishment types, they do, they keep running around.
I mean, if you if you leave Chris Christie to his own devices, he will campaign, because he did on the basis that he can work with the Democrats.
I saw him say it just a couple of months ago.
I'm the guy, I'm your guy.
You want Washington to work, I'm your guy.
I'm the guy that can cooperate with the Democrats, I'm the guy and tell a Democrats, hey, if you got ideas I like, I want your ideas.
We can work together.
I'm the guy we can cross aisles and do.
That's you you start saying that, and the Republican primary voter is going to cancel you out.
You are not going to get anywhere.
So Jeb Bush up in New Hampshire yesterday, you know, he really wants to project and predict what's going to happen, then when it does or doesn't happen, they start telling you why it did or didn't happen.
Like people are trying to explain what went wrong with Rubio.
And everybody harps on his debate performance.
But there might be other factors that you don't know.
Um in terms of Jeb Bush, why didn't he do better with all of this money?
Look, I think when you're up in New Hampshire and you've got a uh decided libertarian and independent moderate electorate, Jeb's actually up there running against citizens united.
You've got John Kasich saying he may be more to the left of Hillary Clinton, but Kasich's message is almost expressed with tears.
We've got to work together.
We gotta love people.
We gotta show people that we love them, and we gotta let them love us.
We gotta show that love is the answer.
We do, we do.
We have to we have to stop this bickering, we have to work together.
Apparently that's what the Republican message is, and that there hasn't been enough of that.
There are other things happening, of course, outside the realm Of presidential politics.
Something pretty big happened yesterday.
And I was reading my uh little tech blog geeks last night, and they're fit to be tied.
They're depressed, they're angry, they're just beside themselves over the Supreme Court putting a stop to Obama's plan to dramatically reduce carbon emissions as it's reported.
That's not what Obama's plan was.
Obama's plan was a massive, massive tax increase.
Here's what happened.
The Supreme Court placed a temporary stay or a halt on a wide reaching plan to curb carbon emissions from power plants in what's described as a major setback to the regime's plan to shift the U.S. to clean energy.
It was a 5-4 decision.
Supreme Court granted a stay to opponents of the EPA's clean power plan.
Now get this.
The Clean Power Plan aims to cut carbon pollution 32% below 2005 levels by 2030.
That's not possible.
Not without going back to the Stone Age.
It literally is not possible.
You couldn't do that without shutting down the engine of the United States and world economy.
You could not do it.
But that doesn't matter.
You could try.
You could start raising taxes, you could punish people for carbon usage.
You can start getting into the act of trading carbon vouchers and permits, and you could create all kinds of new revenue streams and taxes in your objective to get to that.
You could never do this.
States would have to limit their use of coal-fired power plants to accomplish this, or else shift over to more efficient technologies at their coal plant.
That couldn't be done.
30% below 2005?
It's not possible.
It simply isn't possible.
For one thing, you'd have to stop human beings from exhaling.
This is just, it's it's mind-boggling.
And then there are a couple of other stories, buried though they may be, about how the solar industry is flopping.
And it is flopping big time.
It's flopping big in Boston.
And the reason is it can't survive without subsidies.
A uh an Elon Musk solar energy company, $3.4 billion lost.
You know, Elon Musk, everybody hails him as a great inventor and visionary, but he exists totally on government subsidies.
And when the subsidies dry up, these solar companies cannot stay afloat.
So it was a horrible day for the environmentalist wackos yesterday.
And I want to read to you from one sample, is one's the same as the other in terms of this.
I want to read to you from one of my little tech blogs here.
The Supreme Court's decision to halt the EPA's rules is somewhat more than a temporary setback for us.
It also signals it to court, is likely leaning in the state's favor, with a majority of justices believing there's a good reason to grant this day.
It suggests that they believe these are onerous rules that may well present problems for the petitioners before being overturned.
This is horrible news for Obama.
It's bad news for the EPA, and bad news really for anyone hoping to see us combat climate change rather than be destroyed by increasingly powerful effects like rising sea levels and crop shortages.
So these young people think that the Supreme Court has just doomed us to being destroyed by rising sea levels and crop shortages.
All because we're not going to be punished.
30% below 2005.
You want to have fun.
You want to have fun.
You gotta be careful how you do this.
You know anybody with an electric car?
If you do, I don't care what kind, doesn't matter what kind it is.
I don't mean a hybrid, an electric car, Tesla, what are their electric cars?
Tesla Chevy, the vault and the spark and all that.
Walk up to them.
And preferably with their car and Marvey to walk around the car like you really admire the thing.
That's how you'll rope them and you'll suck them in.
You really admire that thing.
Looks so beautiful.
How do you like a coal power plant fired car?
What?
What do you mean?
Yeah.
Your car is powered by coal-powered power plants.
You like that?
What do you mean, Cole?
I'm clean energy electrical.
What do you mean you're giving electricity to charge this baby?
Whoa, well, plug it in the wall, clean energy.
Where's the power company getting the power for you to charge a car?
Whoa, coal, Bubby.
You are driving a coal-powered car.
How does it feel?
I love doing it.
You ought to see.
The first time I tried that, you should have seen the alarm on their face.
They really think they're doing good work.
I mean, and many of these people driving these things really think they are planet saviors.
And they hate coal.
They have been convinced that coal is the absolute worst substance on earth.
And I'm sorry to tell you, coal is powering the electric car.
There's no other way to explain it.
It certainly isn't clean energy.
There's so many myths.
Here's Joe Klein.
Joe Klein on PBS Charlie Rose last night.
Joe Klein with a he's a Time magazine columnist, uh well-known drive-by media specialist.
And he threw a temper tantrum last night over the returns in New Hampshire.
Charlie Rose said, Joe, you've seen a lot of politics out there.
What did you see tonight?
Two-thirds of the Republicans in New Hampshire didn't vote for Donald Trump.
And uh it's amazing that one third did.
This is a guy who doesn't know anything except to say evil things about other people.
I think that we in our business have to be completely honest about this.
If you vote for Trump, it means you're not paying attention.
These are low information voters.
They are a real threat to this country.
Isn't this just delicious?
Isn't it?
I don't care if he steals low information.
I'm I'm honored.
But that's not the point.
I just, isn't this delicious?
The very party that thrives and survives on low information voters, the Democrat Party and the American left.
It wouldn't be where it is were it not for low information.
But they think they're so sophisticated, so worldly, so educated, and now they're describing Trump's voters as low information, and and people are not paying attention, and you are a real threat to this.
No, no, not the college kids coming out educated in the wonders and beauties of socialism.
No, no, no, no, no.
These people voting for Trump.
And he wasn't finished, but I have to take a timeout here.
We'll be back in a second.
Jacksonville, Florida.
Hello, Scott.
Great to have you back on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, how are you?
Good, good, good.
Thank you.
You know, a couple hours ago you mentioned that Bernie Sanders and uh Reverend L had uh coffee together.
And I've got to wonder, did Bernie Sanders ask Reverend L to pay up that uh 4.5 million in back taxes?
Have you thought of that?
Uh the two questions I had for you.
Number one, I was watching Hillary's uh acceptance speech last night, even though she lost, and she compared her own life of service to the service of police teachers, firefighters, and nurses.
I fell out of my chair.
It's part of the illusion.
Mrs. Clinton has to has to uh obscure and distract people away from what is being reported about her vast speech income, much of it from banks, 115 million dollars.
So uh this is how she's going about trying to portray herself uh as a woman of the pipples.
And then the second question I want to ask you is I was listening I've been with you since the first Gulf War.
I love you.
I buy two if by tea.
The thing is that when you were mentioning the other day, and I'm paraphrasing, you know, this thing with Marco Ruba Rubio and repeating himself, eh?
Maybe that was not such a big deal.
Rush, I was on the couch watching it, and I support Trump.
My wife supports uh Marco, and my my wife just started looking at her feet like, oh my gosh.
I really think that performance really hurt him.
He has said so.
I didn't I what what I the point that I was trying to I was not trying to salvage Rubio.
I'm trying to salvage the notion that what he said was right.
I admitted that it looked bad.
I'm not, I didn't make any excuses for that.
Right.
But I'm just I'm I'm telling you, and I it in fact, this is starting to be made fun of now.
Uh I've seen I can't remember who, a couple of columns.
Oh, it's important what Rubio is saying that Obama doesn't know what he's doing, what well give us some news.
Well, I'm sorry it is news.
It's because it isn't that Obama doesn't know what he's doing.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
It ought to be, it should have been one of the motivating and orienting factors of the entire Republican opposition.
And the fact that there's some Republicans in the field who can't say it because they've gotten too close to Obama is important.
I you know me.
I believe having people understand liberalism is crucial in defeating it.
And understanding that Obama intends to do all this, and Bernie Sanders and Hillary gonna add to it, I think it's important.
Brian in Oceanside California.
Hi, great to have you here.
Hi, Rush.
How are you doing?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Thank you.
Rush, um, I guess I kind of have to change my question or my statement because since I've listened to you today, I think I'm understanding what you what you're you're trying to do.
Um I'm a little disturbed.
It seems like Cruz won.
And you know, Iowa, and it it just seems like nobody made a big deal out of that, but Trump wins in every it seems like the whole election cycle is it's all Trump, Trump, Trump.
Okay, that's fine.
Believe me, if he wins, if Kasich wins who to me is the worst candidate, he's going to get my vote because the alternative, in my opinion, is suicide.
I'm not gonna do that.
But I at first I thought you were kind of doing that, and then I realized, well you speak of what's in the news.
And it's I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about this, but Cruz doesn't seem to need the help.
He's so competent on him on his own, it almost seems like maybe really what's happening is you don't need to do anything for him.
He stands you know what he stands for.
You know, we have we have video, you can go to YouTube and listen to him speak.
And though there's a few things he did that I disagreed with, I don't consider conservative, a few decisions he made.
In the end, you know, he's the closest to Reagan I've ever seen.
I've never seen anybody like him before, you know, in in our time.
It's it seems like everybody else is uh like McCain.
I mean, last the last two cycles I had to vote, I had to hold my nose when I voted.
Right.
And I feel a little bit that way about Trump because I think Trump I'm not saying he doesn't believe in everything he says, but when I hear Deal, you mentioned him making a deal on his terms, and I'll agree that's what he means.
He doesn't mean he's just gonna, you know, fold.
But do you honestly believe, say Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid is gonna move one iota on taxes, abortion, or say uh the military, you know, uh national security.
Oh, wait, wait, no, wait, take take abortion out because that's that's a Supreme Court thing.
There's we've we got rid of abortion as a legislative democratic issue back in 73.
So all abortion is a talking point.
There won't be any deals on abortion.
Uh maybe partial birth uh legislative that but but throw that out.
But I st I I still get your point.
Is Trump so good that Harry Reid or Pelosi, whoever it is gonna give up and give in and let Trump have what he wants.
And that's that that's what you you you you if you're supporting Trump, that's what you have to believe is gonna happen.
I mean, Trump is running a campaign.
One of the reasons Trump's making news, and you can't you can't avoid it is it's so unorthodox.
Nobody's ever run a campaign like this.
Nobody's gotten away with saying things he says, and nobody has ever won without having a ground game.
Nobody has ever he's he's spending the least amount of money anybody out there except for Ted Cruz in New Hampshire anyway.
He's just he's turning the whole system upside down.
Uh and believe me, the people that run this business hate this.
They don't understand it.
It would be no different than if somebody who's never watched a baseball game became president of a baseball team and won the World Series in the first year.
They would hate the guy.
They wouldn't want to imitate him, they wouldn't want to copycat, they'd want to throw him out of the league And make sure nobody ever heard from him again.
You can't come in and win the World Series if you have never worked in baseball.
And that's the way they're looking at Trump.
Now, about Cruz and his being self-sufficient.
There's no question about that.
But here, let me just say something right off the bed.
And I've said this before.
I opened the program with it yesterday.
When I saw what Jeb and Kasich were doing in New Hampshire at the last minute, in order to get votes, they were going left as fast as Deion Sanders can backpedal.
They were moving left faster than anybody I've ever seen go left.
And I opened the program yesterday saying you will never ever have to worry about that with Ted Cruz.
And then I expanded on it.
And let me say one, if conservatism is your bag, if conservatism is the dominating factor in how you vote, there is no other choice for you in this campaign than Ted Cruz.
Because you are exactly this is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan in terms of doctrinaire, understandable, articulated, implementable conservatism.
There's nobody closer.
But I think the electorate at this point in time, we don't know, uh, Brian, if you if you look at Trump's coalition.
There's a lot of assumptions being made about it because he's running as a Republican and in the Republican primary, and it's assumed the Republican base is who's voting here.
Therefore, it's assumed the majority of Trump's coalition is conservatives.
And there are a lot, but he's broadby, he's all over the spectrum.
Look at I'm I'm sounding a broken record, but but it's important to point out Trump has put together, whether by accident or by design, he's put together the coalition, group of people, demographics, ethnics, whatever you want to divide it and add it up.
He's put together a group of people the Republican Party has been claiming for years that they have to do in order to win.
And they don't want any part of it.
So it obviously isn't about that.
This is a club.
This is about self-preservation.
This is the ruling class trying to hold on.
This is the ruling class practicing their exclusionary policies of not letting outsiders in.
That's appealing to a lot of people about Trump.
But if you're going to talk conservatism, let me mention something that happened in the last debate.
Rubio was asked a question can you define conservatism?
What is it?
And he defined it, and what are you frowning at?
I'm not gonna kill anybody.
I'm just gonna I'm gonna repeat what happened and I'm gonna kill people.
What do you all say, don't do it, don't do it.
See, this is the pressure I am under on this program.
You people would never know.
Do you realize everybody who knows me can get to me, tells me what to do and not to do, or what I should have said or shouldn't have said.
It's amazing I have a back bonus deal.
Otherwise, I would have been in the funny farm 27 years ago.
Now, here's the thing.
Rubio got the question, and he gave a superb answer when asked to explain or define conservatism.
Cruz did not get the question.
They didn't let the question last long enough for all of the candidates to get it, but Trump did.
And Trump's definition of conservatism was not an ideological definition of conservatism.
My point all along was one of my theories was demonstrated, but Trump is not an ideological candidate.
Trump's not a Republican, he's not a Democrat.
He's running as a Republican, but he's he's way beyond any of this.
His definition of conservatism was we're gonna conserve.
And in his in his world, conservatism meant we're gonna save our good stuff.
We're gonna save our assets.
We're not gonna waste.
We're not gonna throw things away, so forth and so on.
Donald Trump, and I've never said otherwise.
Donald Trump is not an ideological candidate.
He doesn't look, for example, at Chuck Schumer and see a screaming liberal.
And by the same token, he doesn't look at Ted Cruz and see a screaming conservative.
He sees people in entirely different ways.
He looks at them in different ways from his way of doing business.
He looks at Schumer.
I mean, I'd have to guess, I don't know, but he knows Schumer's a Democrat.
But that doesn't matter.
Is there something Schumer's good for, as far as Trump's concerned?
If there is, fine.
Hi, Chuck, how are you doing?
If there's not, Chuck, don't bug me.
The fact that Chuck may be a screaming leftist, that none of that matters.
But he's that way with everybody.
That's why Trump's circle of uh friends and associates is all over the place.
He's not the only one.
I mean, most people are not ideological in the way they look at things.
This has been one of my major complaints, actually, in politics.
I think it helped more people did understand liberalism and did understand what that means, and did and were able to understand why it is liberalism that explains all this misery now.
But in Trump's world, it's not liberalism, although it is.
In Trump's world, it's just a bunch of incompetent failures.
They're a bunch of time-wasting lumps of humanity that have no business doing what they're doing because they're losers.
They're kitty cats, whatever they are, whether they're conservative or liberal or what have you.
Most people are live their lives that way.
Most people do not run around and looking, you know, they go to church and looking over in the pews, yeah, yeah, there's the so-and-so family, bunch of commie bastard liberals.
They don't say that.
Now, it could be that the same people will go to church and see the so-and-so fan.
Yeah, those people are so right wing, and that's a branding thing.
Which we've also discussed here on this program some things that conservatism, i.e., Republican Party needs to overcome problems.
They've allowed to have other people brand them, so forth.
This is not a criticism of Trump.
Uh but if for those of you that conservatism's the answer and conservatism is the way, you have no choice here.
Ted Cruz has got to be your guy.
There's nobody even close.
Nobody.
The closest.
No, I'm not even gonna go there.
You know, we're about to get through this three hours relatively unscathed.
I'll just leave it there.
Now look, Rubio, people don't get mad at me.
He's a conservative.
I said it earlier, I'm not taking it back.
I was thinking in going forward, Massachusetts results.
If Rubio had done well, the establishment's gonna try to glom out and claim credit and get behind Rubio, it's gonna be a problem for some conservatives.
And Cruz does not have the baggage of having the establishment behind him.
That's all I meant by that.
Now, one of the thing about conservatives and the problems that we face, the reason why many conservatives think it's got to be Ted Cruz, and we've got to be conservative because liberalism is the reason we're in this mess.
We're not in this mess because of incompetence.
We're in this mess because of liberalism.
And there is an antidote to liberalism.
There is a cure.
There is a vaccine.
It's called conservatism.
Conservatism is what's gonna have to be implemented here to reverse the direction we're headed.
That's why people who are supporting crews are supporting crewers.
That's why conservatives get worried when other conservatives do not support a conservative.
Because the problems we have are directly traceable traceable to liberalism.
And the antidote, the cure, the vaccine, the nuclear device to wipe it out is conservatism.
And if you're scratching your head, I'll explain in greater detail tomorrow.
Okay, remind me to expand on this tomorrow, but I'm gonna tell you: I can see Donald Trump picking off a whole bunch of people who right now support Bernie Sanders, particularly young millennial women who hate Hillary.
And I will explain this before you go off getting along.