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February 4, 2016, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 Podcast.
Okay, this is second day in a row that I intended, you know, just to spread it around, just to start with what's going on with the Democrats.
Because they had when they're calling a debate last night, and it was an it was well, it's a gold mine.
It's an absolute gold mine.
Many, many predictions I made to you are coming true, such as millennial women abandoning Hillary.
And some former NAA LCP guy, Ben Jealous, has come out and endorsed Bernie Sanders.
I think if Hillary is any any hope here, you know, she does her black dialect when she goes to Silma.
She needs to come up with a New York Jewish dialect in order to get to Bernie Sanders' uh crowd.
It's just amazing.
But folks, what's happening on the Republican side um has to take precedence here over what's going on the Democrat side?
Now I'm gonna do everything I can to get to the Democrat side of things because it's it's uh easily half the story, and it's fascinating in and of its own right.
What's going on on the Republican side?
Holy sweat, just it's childish.
I mean, here we are, we're we we were on the verge.
I mean, we come out of Iowa, and three of the top four finishers are without doubt Reagan conservatives.
I and and now all of that's been turned upside down, and the winners are under assault on this crazy thing about Ben Carson and his supposed leaving the race and so forth.
Has has let me ask a question.
Has anybody in Iowa, I bet since I mentioned this, somebody's going to now.
Has any voter in Iowa, any caucus attender, shown up and said, you know what, I wanted to vote for Ben Carson, but I saw that tweet from Ted Cruz and I changed my mind.
Has anybody said that they intended to vote for Ben Carson but were talked out of it because of all of this?
And I ask you what I asked yesterday.
Even if this ended up being a factor, was Ben Carson cheated out of 25,000 votes.
That's what he would have needed to tie.
He overperformed.
Ben Carson did better than what the polling data showed.
It was Ben Carson and CNN who telegraphed this whole notion that Ben Carson was leaving the campaign going back to Florida.
Cruz is on CNN last night, and he points out to them that it was them, their reporter, tweeting out what Carson had said, and CNN was so ticked off they spent the rest of the night calling Cruz a liar.
And now Trump's out there threatening to sue anybody that walks and and to get to get uh himself back in this and and uh I it's just it's a it's it's I don't know what it is.
Excuse me, not a circus.
And then folks I was so happy today.
After four weeks of sheer, sheer frustration, I finally, with the help of a lot of people solved my battery life issue.
I'm not gonna bore you with the tech technical aspects, but what it my two desktop computers would were constantly trying to upgrade sync and do a number of things with iCloud, which was causing iCloud was then in constant contact with my computers and iPhones and laptops, which means their processors were always running.
Anyway, a fix was to sign out of iCloud on both desktops last night for a half hour, 45 minutes, signed back in, and it worked.
And then 10 minutes ago the churn started again.
Ten, right before this program starts, the churn started it just like it was the four previous weeks.
And I'm sitting here saying, what a lousy time for that to happen.
So there's a lot of frustrating things going on out there, and it's it's uh uh hopefully we can bring some of it to a screeching halt and get back to the things that really matter to people here in this.
I know campaigns are what they are, and victory is what it's all about, and going after people is how you I understand all that.
This the big leagues.
I'm an adult, but this Ben Carson thing, I mean, it's it he started it.
CNN propelled it.
And Ted Cruz is apologized for it, more so than anybody else.
You know, Cruz could have easily blamed a staffer for the crew didn't do this.
Cruz could have gone out there and said a staffer did it and satisfied what Carson wanted and fired somebody, but he didn't.
What did he do?
He went up there and he took the hit himself.
That's a sign of tremendous character to me.
He didn't take the easy road and blame some unnamed staffer and then make a big show out of firing that staffer, like most people would have done, and then go on and on about how outraged he was, and how this is the kind of thing that nobody should want in our politics, and how he's gonna make sure it doesn't ever happen again.
And he didn't do any of that.
Went out there, said, Yep, uh, apologize for it, did not admit any guilt there and any guilt that be to be found here.
Yesterday I had the advance warning of the public policy polling number.
It was embargoed.
I respected the embargo, it was embargoed till today.
But somebody went ahead and ran with it last night, so here are the details.
Uh I actually think, and this is uh this is my intelligence guided by experience.
I actually think that polls right now are still too soon to give us an honest reflection of the post-Iowa mindset in New Hampshire.
You know what I also read today in my voluminous show prep?
I read that the people of Iowa, conscious, I mean people of New Hampshire consciously avoid being a rubber stamp for Iowa.
I actually read this.
I read a story which said the people of New Hampshire, they take note of what happened in Iowa, and they make a point of making sure to select somebody new.
Somebody different.
Now, for that to be the case, however many thousands of people are going to show up in a New Hampshire primary on Tuesday.
They're all gonna have to have gotten together, or they're all gonna have to have received a memo, or they're all going to have to have conscious independent thoughts and agree on the same thing.
They're gonna go into that ballot box into the polling place, and they're gonna all say, you know what?
We cannot vote the same way they did in Iowa because that's not what we in New Hampshire do.
Now they may have statistics that show this is what happens.
They may have statistics over the years that New Hampshire primary voters do not vote the same way as Iowa.
But to try to tell me it's because New Hampshire voters take note of what happened in Iowa and make sure they do something different?
How in the world would you coordinate that?
You know, this is this is the kind of crazy analysis.
It sounds really good.
Wow, it sounds like it's really insider stuff.
You stop to think about it.
Who in the world could make that happen?
I know the guy who's in charge of gasoline prices going up and down in America.
That's who.
That's who could do that.
Do you believe that, Snerdly?
Do you believe that this is how everybody going to vote New Hampshire on Tuesday is going to go in there and say, okay, Cruz won Iowa.
We can't be a rubber stamp for that.
Even if I like Cruz, I'm voting somebody else because I don't want New Hampshire to look like a come on.
Yet that kind of stuff gets put out there, and everybody goes, Yeah, man, the stats, the stats demonstrated.
Here's the details here in the public policy polling.
Yeah, I saw Jimmy Carter has endorsed uh uh Jimmy Jimmy Trump.
Jimmy Carter's in there endorsing Trump.
Uh so the establishment's getting their ducks in a row here.
Public policy polling, newest national poll finds the race on the Republican side tightening considerably in the wake of Donald Trump surprise loss in Iowa on Monday night.
Note that they who is this?
That's public policy polling writing this.
Note that they could not write this in the wake of Ted Cruz's resounding victory on Monday night.
Is anybody, have you stopped to think what Ted Cruz did on Monday night?
Have you stopped to think what Ted Cruz overcame to win the Iowa caucuses?
Eight and a half million dollars arrayed against him, all of the ad money arrayed against him, all of the so-called he's not even a legit candidate because he was born in Canada.
All these are religious revival uh uh evangelist nutcase, all of that stuff thrown at him, uh phony Hispanic, all that, and he still wins.
And after that victory, Ted Cruz is the first Hispanic American to ever win the Iowa caucus.
He is the first Hispanic American to win any presidential primary for any party.
It didn't happen in the Democrat side.
The first Hispanic American to win a presidential primary happens to be Ted Cruz, who happens to be a Republican.
And furthermore, it was the religious right that propelled him to victory.
And I knew this was going to happen precisely because of that.
The establishment and everybody else anti-cruz is arraying all of their arsenal and resources against Cruz precisely, well, not just precisely, not exclusively, but the big reason is because the religious right or the evangelicals were the margin of victory.
We can't have that.
No, no, no.
We have got to destroy that.
We have got to shoot that down.
We can't allow that to be the message coming out, say the opponents and enemies of Cruz.
Oh my God, the Republican Party's out there saying these are the people we want to get rid of.
These are the people we think are causing us problems, the pro-lifers, the social issues people.
Oh no, they're the reason Cruz won.
First Hispanic.
What's the Republican Party?
I saw Lindsey Graham on TV this morning.
Talking about why he likes Jeb.
The reason we can't nominate Ted Cruz is because we have to reach out to Hispanics.
Hispanic voters hate the Republican Party and think the Republican Party doesn't like them.
Hispanics think the Republican Party mean spirited and exclusive exclusionary.
And I'm sitting here, Senator Graham and Hispanic and Hispanic just won the Iowa caucus.
An Hispanic American Ted Cruz just won, and you're sitting there saying that Hispanics don't like the Republican Party because they don't think they have a home.
They don't think the Republican Party likes Hispanic.
He was serious.
He was going on and on and on about it.
He's pushing Jeb, obviously, it's the establishment hanging together.
But it was it was classic establishment thinking 101.
What the Republican Party has to do to win.
We got it, we've got to expand the base.
We've got to go way beyond our base.
We can't rely on our base.
We've got to reach out to Hispanics.
Women hate us.
We've got to do something about that.
We've got to change the way people think of the Republican Party.
And Ted Cruz just didn't away that he's the first Hispanic American to win a presidential primary period.
Any party, Republican, Democrat, independent, Martian, you name it.
And here comes public policy polling.
PPP's newest national poll finds the race on the Republican side tightening considerably in the wake of Donald Trump surprise loss in Iowa on Monday night.
Trump's lead has fallen to just four points.
He's at 25%.
Ted Cruz is at 21%.
Marco Rubio is at 21%.
Ben Carson, who's not there in New Hampshire, is at 11%.
Jeb Bush, Kasich, and Rand Paul are at 5%.
Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, 3%, and Jim Gilmore, still in the race at uh at 1%.
Santorum had zero supporters in the public policy polling final poll.
Mr. Snerdley, can you help me out?
Who did Santorm endorse yesterday?
Yeah, where did it first reported that he endorsed Cruz?
Because I remember getting emails from people yesterday afternoon.
Remember, I was immersed for hours after the program yesterday in the fix for my battery life crisis, and it was a genuine crazy.
Few people knew.
I haven't bothered to bleed on you about this because of course it's not important to anybody but me.
But I was working on this for hours last night.
I thought I got an email from somebody that said, my God, Santorum endorsed Trump.
It turned out to be not true, right?
He endorsed Rubio.
Zero here in the Republican race.
PPP says that Trump's 25% standing reflects a nine-point drop from their last National poll, which was taken the week before Christmas.
They say that it reflects an overall decline in Trump's popularity with GOP voters.
In this poll, the public policy polling poll, Trump's favorability has dropped a net 17 points from a previous plus 24 to now plus seven.
The actual numbers on favorability 58 favorable, 34 unfavorable.
I think that's right.
I don't know which is which here.
They don't say 4841 is what uh it is now.
So if he's Yeah, yeah, 48 favorable so he's dropped 17 points.
Says that Rubio's the candidate with the real momentum in the race.
He's up eight points from his 13% standing in their poll right before Christmas.
And that Cruz is actually pretty steady in his national.
This is New Hampshire, uh, not New Hampshire, by the way, it's a national national poll, which of course doesn't mean much right now.
New Hampshire being the focus, plus a Republican debate coming up Saturday night.
As I say, I'm not sure if enough time has passed from Iowa for the polls that have like the real clear politics average or rolling average in this poll.
I don't know if enough time has gone by for there actually to be an accurate poll now of the post-Iowa mindset of people in New Hampshire.
Let me take a brief time out.
We'll come back and start with uh the audio sound bites on this.
Whatever you want to call it that's going on in the Republican Party about all this, we'll cover it all with the sound bites and added news uh bites that we've got here as well.
Your phone calls as always, part of the mix in yet another exciting excursion into broadcast excellence.
Don't go away.
You know, I folks, I have a question.
In Barack Obama, he goes into this radical mosque in Baltimore yesterday.
He talks about how Islam has always been a part of the fabric of America, and I realized stops it.
Really?
I I didn't know that.
I did I didn't know that Islam had always been such a major, major.
And I but anyway, he's constantly talking it up, is he not?
President Obama is routinely defending talking it up, promoting it, uh talks about how awesome Islam is all the time.
This is one of the most beautiful sounds he's ever heard is the morning call to prayer in an Islamic country.
He says it's the most peaceful, most giving religion out there, that the mosque call of prayer, one of the most beautiful sounds in the world.
And at the same time, he's out there.
Look what he says about Christians.
He says he is one.
Look at it, he talks about those bitter clingers, and they hold on to their guns when they're nervous and when they feel abandoned, and they go out there and they cling to their religion, and they do all of these other things that make the establishment nervous.
My question is, given all this, why did he choose to become a Christian?
Yeah, I've always wondered that.
He's such a defender and promoter of Islam, and on the other hand, he and his party are constantly denigrating Christians.
I don't care what the issue is, whether it's guns, whether it's gay marriage, any cultural or social issue.
You've got his bitter clinger comments.
I've always wondered about this.
No, I'm not saying anything.
I'm just asking a question.
How did he end up choosing Reverend Wright's church, given his public statements on all of this?
By the way, it's a Democrat debate tonight.
There's a Republican debate on Thursday night, or Saturday night, just continues to intensify.
And a friend of mine sent me the following note a great idea for a drinking game tonight during the Democrat debate.
And here it is.
Every time Crazy Bernie or Hillary Clinton mention a new free government program, which is the contest they are having.
Who can come up with the most free stuff?
And who can Bernie, wait till you hear this soundbite?
I've got to get to this today.
Bernie gets a question from a guy, upset that Bernie's gonna raise his taxes.
The guy says, you know, I I don't know, I'm not a gazillionaire, I'm not a millionaire.
What do you want to raise my taxes for?
And Bernie says, no, no, you'll be fine because of all the new free stuff you're gonna get.
And the guy says, Oh, okay, cool.
It was fine with him.
He'd be happy to pay a tax increase as long as there's gonna be new freebies.
Now, now Bernie didn't use that exact language, and that was the message.
So the drinking game is every time Bernie Sanders or or Hillary Clinton mention a new free government program, you grab somebody else's drink and take a swig.
Not from your own.
Just to kind of illustrate the point.
Jimmy Carter grabs soundbite number 26.
This is yesterday in London in Parliament.
Jimmy Carter addressing the House of Aristocrats.
I. You do.
I think I would choose Trump.
Which may surprise some of you.
But the reason is that Trump has proven already that he's completely malleable.
I don't think he has any fixed opinions that he would really go to the White House and fight for.
On the other hand, Ted Cruz is not malleable.
He has far right wing policies, in my opinion, uh that would be uh pursued aggressively if and when he might become president.
Well, they better happen because he's been practicing your brand of politics here for eight years minimum, and we're about to end up in the gutter in the sewer.
We got to do something fast.
And we're back.
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There's a headline up on Drudge.
This is the kind of stuff we need to get back to.
Border agents ordered to stand down.
Might as well abolish immigration laws.
Washington Examiner, border agents ordered to stand down.
Well, all this is going on.
Our borders are wide open, as much, if not more so, than ever before, and border patrol agents are being told to shut down.
There is not even any pretense here.
In a shocking reversal.
This is Paul Bedard, by the way, used to be at uh U.S. News of Wall Report and over the Washington Examiner.
In a shocking reversal of policy, U.S. customs and border protection agents are being told to release illegal immigrants and no longer order them to even appear at deportation hearings, which is essentially a license to stay in the United Ages.
The United States, a key agent testified today.
What's more, the stand-down order includes a requirement that the whereabouts of illegals released are not to be tracked.
Brandon Judd, who's president of the National Border Patrol Council, said we might as well just abolish our immigration laws altogether.
Testifying on the two-year border surge of immigrant youths, Judd said the policy shift has been prompted by the regime.
And the embarrassment that just over half of illegals ordered to appear in court actually do.
In other words, the regime is embarrassed that their policy is so bad, so they're just nuking the whole thing.
If only half of them are showing up to hell with any of them showing up.
Don't even require it anymore.
So the border patrol agents basically saying, we've been told to stand down.
If we're not enforcing the law, the law may as well not even exist.
The willful failure to show up for court appearances by people that were arrested and released by the border patrol has become an extreme embarrassment for the Department of Homeland Security.
Let me read that to you again.
The willful failure to show up for court appearances by persons that were arrested and released and nothing happens to them.
These are people committing Crimes that are not even being tracked and followed down, or followed and tracked down.
And it's said to have become an extreme embarrassment for the Department of Homeland Security.
This would mean agents and employees, not the cabinet secretary or Obama.
I mean, the point is, okay, we've got laws.
We're making a pretense of enforcing them.
We arrest, we give them court dates.
Half of them aren't even showing up.
We're not following them.
We're not tracking them.
We don't know where they are.
We may as well not stop them in the first place.
Point is they're embarrassed that so little is happening after they are doing their jobs.
To the audio sound bites, we're going to start here as I told the broadcast engineer with F. Chuck Todd on the Today Show today with Savannah Guthrie.
They were speaking about Ted Cruz's campaign telling voters about Carson's leaving the race because of a report on CNN.
Now let's review this.
Let's review what we know just before we get to the soundbite.
Somebody at CNN, forget the name, tweeted that Carson was leaving the race and going home to Florida and then to the national prayer breakfast.
That was a CNN tweet.
And the CNN reporter had to get it from somewhere.
And he did not get it from Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz didn't know.
And by the way, this is 10 minutes, 20 minutes before the caucus begins.
This is between the hour 5.30 and 6.30 p.m. on Monday.
Somebody had to tell the CNN reporter that Ben Carson was going back to Florida.
The CNN reporter tweets it.
The other campaigns see it.
It clearly says that Carson is returning to Florida, not going to New Hampshire, South Carolina, but is going to attend the National Prayer Breakfast today.
So the Rubio campaign and the Cruz campaign get in gear and point this out to their people on the ground, and they pass it around as though it could be that Carson or CNN is saying that Carson is leaving the race.
He is what the CNN tweet said going back to Florida.
Well, then the results come in and Carson outperforms what the real clear politics polling average showed that he would do.
Cruz wins when Trump was forecast by the polls to win by four.
That shakes up everything.
The Democrat side's a mess.
The Democrats and the Des Moines Register, a whole bunch of people still embarrassed over what happened there.
because of all the embarrassment on the side of the people who lost, then somehow it ends up that the Cruz campaign engaged in a dirty trick.
Thank you.
By simply passing on information to caucus goers that was supplied by Carson or his campaign to CNN.
This was then said to be a dirty trick, and Dr. Carson went out there and said he was righteously indignant and offended and so forth, and went so far as to make it look like he thought Cruz ought to fire somebody for making this happen.
In the meantime, not one caucus goer has yet come forward and said, I intended to vote for Dr. Carson, but when I saw that tweet that Cruz sent out that he had left the race, I changed my vote.
Not one person has come forth and said so.
And I am here to tell you that if those people existed, they would have been found by now, and you would have seen them all over CNN, PMSNBC, and Fox.
Ben Carson would have needed 25,000 votes.
He ended up with 17,000.
He's in some solid fourth place.
He would have needed 25,000 votes at Ty Rubio.
Nobody is making the claim that he was cheated out of 25,000 votes when his total was 17,000.
The CNN reporter is Chris Moody.
Okay?
So that's what happened.
Now let's go to the Today Show today with Savannah Guthrie speaking with F. Chuck Todd of uh Meet the Press.
And she said Donald Trump is accusing Cruz of stealing the election in Iowa.
Number one, is there anything in the substance of that?
And number two, is Trump's attack a smart political attack?
Do you think Chuck?
I have to say, the more they fight, uh the more this helps one candidate, not Ted Cruz, not Donald Trump, but Marco Rubio.
The private polling I've been hearing about over the last two days post-Iowa indicates that Cruz hasn't gotten a bump, and I think partly because Trump has been beating them up.
Trump's been eroding a little bit, and there's only one guy on the rise, Marco Rubio.
Okay.
So F. Chuck cites private polling, meaning we're not allowed to know who says Trump's attacks on Cruz are working because Cruz isn't getting the bump that you would normally expect to see after a big win in Iowa, that Trump's numbers are eroding a little bit.
But the big gainer happens to be Marco Rubio.
And people are scratching their heads and they wonder how that's happening.
Why is that?
Rubio.
How in the hell is Rubio getting this meal?
What's happening here to cause Rubio to rise in the polls?
People scratching their heads and looking in the deep dark crevices of the sofa, trying to find what's happening here.
And F. Chuck thinks that Trump's attacks on Cruz on this Carson thing are actually hurting Cruz, even though Cruz is apologized.
But of course, we're not finished.
Last night on the record, Grant Greta Van says, by the way, a brief moment of pause here to congratulate Greta Van Susterin on her 14 years at the Fox News Channel.
Do you know?
Do you remember what it was that brought Greta Van Susterin to the attention of the United States of America?
Exactly right, Mr. Sturdley.
It was the OJ Simpson case.
She was one of the first ever legal experts hired by cable news to come on and tell us what we were watching and explain the legal angle of it.
At the time, I'll never forget many of the camera shots of Greta Van Susterin were from behind.
She had that long Auburn blonde hair.
And I remember people, wow, who is that?
We've never seen a legal analyst on CNN.
Long blonde hair, you remember?
And then it didn't take long.
We started seeing Greta on CNN, and she owned it.
She had legal analysis that nobody else on CNN had, because of course they weren't lawyers.
And this gave birth into Jeffrey Tube and he ended up there, but that she was actually the forerunner of the category of legal analyst on cable news, legal expert.
She was the first.
She spent some time at CNN and after a while moved over to Fox after having a successful interview and a series of conversations with Roger Ailes.
And I think either today or yesterday is her 14th anniversary.
So happy anniversary, Greta.
We will come back and resume and not lost our place, pick it up right where we left off here when we get back.
So I've got a I got a quick question.
I want to go back just a little bit here.
Audio soundbite number seven.
Savannah Guthrie asking F. Chuck Todd, hey, Chuck, anything in the substance of this Carson Cruz Trump business reporting that Carson was leaving the race?
And number two, is this is a smart thing for Trump to attack Cruz on?
I have to say, the more they fight, uh the more this helps one candidate, not Ted Cruz, not Donald Trump, but Marco Rubio.
The private polling I've been hearing about over the last two days post-Iowa indicates that Cruz hasn't gotten a bump, and I think Trump has been a big thing.
Stop it.
Stop it right there.
What is this Cruz hasn't got a bump?
We just had the story that the Iowa winner doesn't get a bump in New Hampshire.
I just regaled you.
I just informed you of the story that New Hampshire voters, they do not like to rubber stamp what comes out of Iowa.
This is what we're told in the drive-by's today that New Hampshire voters go in there, and no matter who wins Iowa, they're not going to win New Hampshire.
New Hampshire voters go in there and they make a point to make sure they vote for somebody other than who won Iowa, right?
So what is F. Chuck talking about here when he says that the polling data he's hearing about indicates Crump uh Cruz hasn't gotten a bump.
According to these guys, there is no bump coming out of Iowa.
So it means one of these things isn't true.
And I'll tell you which one isn't true.
This silly assertion that New Hampshire makes sure to not vote for the Iowa winner is absolute flat out BS.
Stop and think for a moment.
How in the world that could be made a reality?
Who would organize that?
Who sends the memo out?
To all of the voters of New Hampshire.
All right.
Ted Cruz won in Iowa.
That means he cannot win in New Hampshire.
You know what to do.
Now get out there and vote.
Really?
Is that how it happens?
Or does every New Hampshire voter consciously say, screw Iowa?
I'm going to make sure that whatever happens here is not what happened there.
That what they want us to believe.
Of course there's a bump coming out of Iowa.
Of course there'd be a huge bump coming out of Iowa for Cruz, especially given how it happened and what the expectations were of it would be a huge.
He was supposed to lose.
Supposed to come in second to be a huge bump.
Now they're trying to say there isn't a bump, and they don't expect a bump.
And yeah, Trump's attacks, boy, they're brilliant.
They are really, really, really hurting Cruz.
They're not really helping Trump much, and Rubio's picking up the uh pieces here, and really good moving forward.
Now here's the next bite.
This is Fox News channel with Greta Van Sestran last night.
She is uh she's interviewing Trump.
She said, What do you mean Ted Cruz stole the Iowa contest?
I think what he did is disgusting.
He said that Ben Carson, who's a fantastic guy, had dropped out of the race during the caucus.
He had dropped out of the race and vote for Ted Cruz.
All of those people come and vote for Ted Cruz, and many of them did.
I think it was a disgrace that he did it, and I don't think it should be even allowed.
I think those votes should be taken away, and there were plenty of them.
Really?
Well uh uh what do we know?
Again, I'm I I think I know a lot.
I may not have heard everything.
And now that I've brought it up, I'm sure some it's gonna happen.
Sure as I'm sitting here, somebody in Iowa is gonna pop up and say, hey, I did.
I intended to vote for Dr. Carson, but when I saw that Ted Cruz said that he was leaving the race, I said, Well, okay, I'm voting for Cruz.
But nobody has said that.
I'm sure since I have pointed it out, somebody's gonna pop up now.
We uh head to the phones.
Josh Decatur, Illinois.
It's great to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, buddy, good to talk to you again.
Uh, thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
To me, Trump ain't looking very presidential, uh, whining about this.
I I'm still undecided, but uh what why is it all I'll just assume that all the votes went to Cruz?
Couldn't Trump have benefited from Carson voters not showing up?
Wait a second.
This is the kind of stuff, you know, you you you say that that that Trump isn't looking very presidential, and it's uh this is the kind of stuff that he does that has launched him.
He uh doubles down when things like this happen, and people say it's incredible he's saying this, he doubles down on it, and and he has been gaining his his his support's been increasing, his appeal has been broadening as he does these things.
It it just ain't plain to me.
I mean it might be uh I think whenever he's attacking uh Democrats or attacking things that are against our values, but I don't see anything in Ted Cruz that uh you know that I would attack.
It just it it turns me off, J. Well, I understand that, but if you are in the Republican primary and you expected to win Iowa and you didn't, and the guy who did is somebody you don't like anyway, uh, and you got an opportunity here to point out that he's a cheater and a fraud, uh, you'll do it because what you want to do, you want to win New Hampshire.
You're first, before you get to the Democrats, you gotta knock these guys out.
So you understand there is going to be, and there are going to be vicious battles within the Republican Party.
I agree with you that a lot of this looks childish.
But realize that people benefit.
That's the that's that's the story of this campaign.
That some benefit during all this.
Yeah, and he and he could have benefited too from Carson.
I mean, it I don't think you should assume that all the people that weren't gonna vote for Carson automatically went to Cruz.
Some of them might said, heck, you know, I'll throw in Trump.
Well, look, the dirty little secret here, and I hate to overuse that cliche.
Ben Carson was not, does not appear to have been harmed greatly by this.
He outperformed the real clear politics polling app.
Now I understand that the polling is is is hit or miss, and that 13 of them were wrong.
I understand.
13 polls had Trump winning.
And I've got I've got nothing against Dr. Carson.
You know, you know me, I think Dr. Carson's one of the finest men alive today walking this planet.
This whole episode, nevertheless, boggles my mind.
This whole thing, manufactured as it is, just boggles my mind.
We're on the verge here.
We conservatives of wresting control of the Republican Party from the establishment and get sidetracked with this stuff.
It isn't helpful.
I wish it would stop.
But I'm not running all these campaigns.
We'll be back after this.
Well, look at this.
NBC has gone out and done a random act of journalism, and what they found?
Condoleezza Rice AIDS and Colin Powell also got classified info in their personal emails.
Oh, yes, so you see, everybody did it.
There's nothing to see here.
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